Right? I can't imagine having superheros as my homies and not thinking about how to take em down if they get brainwashed or decide to turn heel, especially in cases of Green Lantern and Superman who have definitive weaknesses. It's really no different than having a fire extinguisher in or near your kitchen.
@@TrueNomadSkies superheroes tend to relay too much on their powers, and not planning ahead enough. This is what makes batman the most dangerous of all of them
When batman said "there is a plan for me, it's called the justice league" he basically said if that happens you are gonna need all of you to take me out
I don't think batman's plan for Manhunter was to have him burned alive or at least to that extent. Maybe encase his surroundings in fire of something to stop him.
I've always wondered, in both the comic and this short movie, how the villain was aware of Batman's contingency plans. It's not like he made it obvious or ever spoke about it before hand.
@jamesdietz29 Meh, how "convenient." Not bashing you or your opinion, but it just seems like lazy writing to me. I think the writer could have thought of a simple explanation that makes sense.
@@benkayvfalsifier3817 It's not "convenient" nor is it lazy. The producers expect the viewers to be at the very least some what familiar with the characters. VS is thousands of years old and highly intelligent, he undoubtedly would know how Batman (among others) operates. He's seen similar people do similar things throughout the ages... in fact, it's something VS would probably do himself.
@@jamesdietz29 Then why bother go to all the trouble of strealing these ideas from Batman? If he's so intelligent, he would be able to figure out their weaknesses himself and create his own contingency plans.
@@benkayvfalsifier3817 He wasn't looking to create "contingency plans" in this case, he was looking to take the JLA out, and using Bat's plans sows enough confusion to keep them off his trail long enough for those attacks to come to fruition. What you should be asking is why Bats didn't have a contingency plan to take Vandal Savage out.
..and how did they know Batman had a backup contingency plan against the Justice League??? And Flash with all his speed thinking, didn't think that a hole just large enough to put his hand through may not be a trap?? I would have grabbed Mirror Master the moment he said what would happen if I stopped moving.
and at the end, Batman apologizes to his comrades in the League and declares that he will now resign as a way to atone for the mess his files caused them Superman still trusts Batman though and asked, since Batman had contingency plans to stop all the of the League members if they ever go rogue, then he must have a plan to stop himself and Batman replies that the Justice League is his contingency plan to stop himself, showing that he trusts his comrades to do the right thing in the name of greater good if it comes down to it
Someone should explore whether these plans were actually executable if the heroes went rogue. Example, Flash's plan required him to be tricked into helping someone and caring it would explode on people. If he turned rogue, why would he care? Green Lantern, if he went rogue why would he be so grieve strucken? Would the psychological aspect be as effective on these heroes as rogues or "mind controlled?" These plans require them to still care and be heroes. What were Batman's original protocol for execution?
Savage most likely modified the plans to play in the heroes current morals and to make them more lethal. Originally, batman just planned on using fear toxin to nullify GL and make him think he is blind. Placing a kinetic trap on the inside of a safe that flash plans on robbing is how that bomb would get stuck on him. As for the others. VS just modified the plans slightly to make them more lethal.
Failsafe could've used a little more fixing. Not to kill but to incapacitate and contain till he was back to normal or were he could've been put somewhere he wouldn't have been a threat anymore
If ever you feel like a terrible friend, just remember Batman obstinately refuses to kill any of his villains, whereas he has contingency plans to murder each member of the Justice League
Question. How the HECK does a life imprisonment sentence work on someone with an indefinite lifespan? He's most certainly going to outlive the current justice system.
He will still stay there, that easy. It doesn't matter if a criminal outlives the court that sentenced him, he will just stay there. Most likely he will still try to escape but then another hero will catch him and another court will sentence him
the funny part is, not sure if its from this or in the comics (it was the tower of babel story line), after batman says that the justice league is the contingency plan for batman supes says "but if you know all our weaknesses how is the justice league supposed to be the contingency plan for the batman" i cant remember what happened but it think batman was like he believes in them or just shrugs it off later we learn he has a contingency plan for himself if he goes rogue and its called failsafe i aint gonna explain it since its pretty short read it yourself that is one of the coolest comics ever
You mispronounced kryptonite. I remember actually watching the movie. One thing I wondered about is why they thought they had to use a Kryptonite laser scalpel because the Kryptonite bullet that was already in his chest should have weakened Superman enough for ordinary medical tools to remove it
If you look at this movie and "Superman/Batman: Public Enemies", they made Kryptonite poison Superman but not instantly remove all his powers and abilities (which never made much sense to me) so it's not an instant win button.
Btw it's stated in Injustice 2 even red solar radiation can't hold him. Even without yellow sun , Superman can absorb other forms of radiation and get other powers (he absorbed negative radiation in apokolpis and became negative Superman). Kryptonite is the only thing that can actually weaken his powers
I never understand in DC movies and shows why people get mad at Batman for contingency plans or underhanded tactics. Because every time I've seen it happen, Batman was right about whatever was going on.
In the comics, Green Lantern, Martian Manhunter, and The Flash wanted to keep Batman in the league. They are smart enough to know that an out of control JL would be dangerous and they need a plan, in case it happens.
This is easily one of my favorite movies of all time and probably is my favorite comic book movie. So many great batman moments, an interesting story, good moments from all the heroes and villains involved, and well done fight scenes. I have no complaints and could gush all day. That being said, I really want more versions of this arc our there. The batman kinda did it in one of its season 4 arcs, but it wasn't nearly as good and altered it quite a bit to fit the shows narrative.
The LIVE DC movie bosses should've watch a couple of these animated DC movies as a guide for the DCEU movie universe because they're SO GOOD. Amazing they are made for WAY less than the live movies, yet have more intelligence, are cohesively scripted and don't spend their time stop and staring. David
If I'm remembering correctly, in the comics, Supermans fate was actually far more grim. I think they used some strange form of (potentially artificial) Kryptonite that essentially turned Supermans skin translucent, meaning the solar radiation passing through his skin wasn't dulled or diluted in any way and instead became super concentrated, like focusing sunlight through a magnifying glass. It was like his entire body, even his internal organs, were getting the most intense sunburn imaginable, which was pure agony for him and basically rendered him unable to move because of the pain.
DCAU Vandal Savage is best Vandal Savage. We never got to see Superman talk Savage out of doing something horrible, but I think we could have. I liked that version of the character. The Earth-16 version is also pretty interesting. He is a general preparing Earth for an inevitable war. Misguided, but he's right that ultimately Earth will have to contend with Apokolips.
Even though the comics had a much more insane backup plan, I think having the entire Justice League as his check does somewhat make sense when you account for the fact that half of them can kill him without even him knowing. Superman? Orbital death beam. Flash? With a decent writer, he'd be dead in a second. Martian Manhunter? Turns him into a vegetable.
Nah all of those batman from dark multiverse already beat all of their justice league, batman trusting that justice league can stop him is actually showing us how he still trust other and can be naive as other people (or he only say that to superman so superman doesn't need to think it over). In the end batman only trust himself to stop himself using his own "failsafe" plan
What's funny is that Vandal Savage is Immortal, but not Invulnerable (in most interpretations) so imagine if this was true in here and Cheetah just murdered him randomly lmfao
These criminals should have become special interest and done all this legally with via fiat currency. In the past, it was forcing cities to take out loans at high interest rates, now its special interests. -_-
Great stuff 😮 thank you! Zack Synder would make a great movie 🍿🍿 with this, how can I watch this version? And what is the name of this Justice league cartoon please?
Why is Batman always the focus of these superhero movies? I get that he's human and has no powers and is more relatable, but I prefer Green Lantern? He has no superpowers, just a ring that will create whatever he can think of. His whole skillset is completely dependent on mental focus/control and being able to have a clear mind in the heat of battle, but he's more of a cocky joke character.
in the comic that this animated film is based on, it wasn't Vandal Savage who started the plot to use Batman's contingency plan files to attack the League's weak spots, it was Ra's Al Ghul, who used Talia to steal the files and then use them against the League
of everyone in the Justice League, Batman is right about his actions. everyone has a weakness and those weaknesses can be exploited in a way to temporarily stop them under the event that even one member ends up turning evil on their own or by mind control. this isnt a breach of trust, they were trying to breach his trust thinking his contingency plans were unacceptable
"none of us would ever do that to you"
"Then you're damn fools" 😂😂😂 always loved that line
Right? I can't imagine having superheros as my homies and not thinking about how to take em down if they get brainwashed or decide to turn heel, especially in cases of Green Lantern and Superman who have definitive weaknesses. It's really no different than having a fire extinguisher in or near your kitchen.
@@TrueNomadSkieslol facts
@@TrueNomadSkies superheroes tend to relay too much on their powers, and not planning ahead enough. This is what makes batman the most dangerous of all of them
Also, dude batman just proved that he can take you all down
Even confident superheroes like Green Arrow are afraid of them
If you think about it, Batman pulled up to Hal and just said, "It's just a prank bro, it ain't that serious."
Ha ha ...
@@SecondLookTMwhat series is this
Justice League Doom Movie
@@SecondLookTM thanks
So did we ask
Batman:"I quit...Everyone, get out of my ship"
😂😂 That's what I would've said if I was Batman!
When batman said "there is a plan for me, it's called the justice league" he basically said if that happens you are gonna need all of you to take me out
Genius quote. Welldone
Even then, he'll hit the doomsday button.. dude killed superman by hitting a belt button..
no it means that everyone of them can kill him in a millisecond lmao
I mean. The Batman Who Laughs is that scenario. AND THEY STILL COULDNT STOP HIM
Or...create a robot to give himself the business in case he goes rogue!
Only Batman can prepare contingency plans versus his own contingency plans.
Create a poison and in tandem the antidote.
BATs: "The Justice League is under attack!!!"
Alfred: "By whom?"
BATs: "BY ME!!!!!!!"
Will never forget how confused I was by BATs when he said that.
Martian manhunt had it the worst. If I’m not mistaken, I think they said he would’ve been burning for weeks. Can you imagine that? Literally hell
Even worse Batman was the one who thought of it. Granted he probably meant to douse the fire when the threat was taken care of.
I don't think batman's plan for Manhunter was to have him burned alive or at least to that extent. Maybe encase his surroundings in fire of something to stop him.
Fire punch : "heh,amateurs"
Green Lantern: missed the chance to kill me
Batman: should’ve buried me deeper😂
Batman: I do have a plan..it's called the Justice League 😉
Superman:...The same Justice League you have strategic plans of defeating..😑
"Well? Did my fewkin' plans work? Nope, here you are."
@@jackhowe6 The plans didn't work because Batman interfered and saved them.
Not in the comic. They saved themselves @@christophertelesford7579
@@christophertelesford7579 it was largely luck too that Cyborg didn't have a nemesis to be recruited by Vandall Savage.
Other justice league:phisical damage
Meanwhile green lantern
EMOTIONAL DAMAGE😂😂
Haha
The ring functions on willpower.
batman: krptonite is a rare material superman: rare my ass everyone has it
Well, I would imagine Luthor would create lab grown Kryptonite and sell it in mass just to knee cap Superman... Because the guy's a hater.
@@seeleunit2000 I mean the man stole *40 cakes*
I promise, loool, everyone. it's crazy they forget he can get around that
Superman giving batman an itsy bitsy amount of Kryptonite as if Batman doest already have tonnes of it
He prolly took it to make Clark feel better even though he likely has hundreds of pounds of it in a stash in his cave.
Justice League Doom is one of my favorite movies. I remember finding it when I was 11.
Bro literally me too lmao i was like damn this shit is fuckin fire
I still love that on this day, when cyborg is brought into the justice league, batman uploaded a remote activated virus into his system
Batman does have a contigency plan for if he ever goes rouge it's called "Alfred" 😏
At least Batman admitted that he had a plan for himself too...The Justice League.
yeah, not like that worked out to well anyway but it's the thought that counts.
@@luciferneverchanges5841 Remember if their serious about it they WILL put him down if they ever have to.
I've always wondered, in both the comic and this short movie, how the villain was aware of Batman's contingency plans. It's not like he made it obvious or ever spoke about it before hand.
Vandal Savage is cunning, it would be in his nature to simply assume Bats would have such plans... and be correct.
@jamesdietz29 Meh, how "convenient." Not bashing you or your opinion, but it just seems like lazy writing to me. I think the writer could have thought of a simple explanation that makes sense.
@@benkayvfalsifier3817 It's not "convenient" nor is it lazy. The producers expect the viewers to be at the very least some what familiar with the characters. VS is thousands of years old and highly intelligent, he undoubtedly would know how Batman (among others) operates. He's seen similar people do similar things throughout the ages... in fact, it's something VS would probably do himself.
@@jamesdietz29 Then why bother go to all the trouble of strealing these ideas from Batman? If he's so intelligent, he would be able to figure out their weaknesses himself and create his own contingency plans.
@@benkayvfalsifier3817 He wasn't looking to create "contingency plans" in this case, he was looking to take the JLA out, and using Bat's plans sows enough confusion to keep them off his trail long enough for those attacks to come to fruition. What you should be asking is why Bats didn't have a contingency plan to take Vandal Savage out.
..and how did they know Batman had a backup contingency plan against the Justice League???
And Flash with all his speed thinking, didn't think that a hole just large enough to put his hand through may not be a trap?? I would have grabbed Mirror Master the moment he said what would happen if I stopped moving.
and at the end, Batman apologizes to his comrades in the League and declares that he will now resign as a way to atone for the mess his files caused them
Superman still trusts Batman though and asked, since Batman had contingency plans to stop all the of the League members if they ever go rogue, then he must have a plan to stop himself
and Batman replies that the Justice League is his contingency plan to stop himself, showing that he trusts his comrades to do the right thing in the name of greater good if it comes down to it
Ha ha.. Good Alternate ending too
Now that's a better ending
Except batman fucking lied.
His actual contingency plan is a robot called failsafe.
Against the one who knew all of their weaknesses? Fat chance of them winning.
Unless... they think and act differently
Do you know the name of this movie or episode of this show, if it’s a show?
10:16 "leaving him unharmed" *flash proceeds to get hit by ice and falls into water*
Lol
Someone should explore whether these plans were actually executable if the heroes went rogue. Example, Flash's plan required him to be tricked into helping someone and caring it would explode on people. If he turned rogue, why would he care? Green Lantern, if he went rogue why would he be so grieve strucken? Would the psychological aspect be as effective on these heroes as rogues or "mind controlled?" These plans require them to still care and be heroes. What were Batman's original protocol for execution?
Savage most likely modified the plans to play in the heroes current morals and to make them more lethal.
Originally, batman just planned on using fear toxin to nullify GL and make him think he is blind.
Placing a kinetic trap on the inside of a safe that flash plans on robbing is how that bomb would get stuck on him.
As for the others. VS just modified the plans slightly to make them more lethal.
Batman: Get the hell out of my tower. Case dismissed.
Man hunter: cant read their mind
Batman: let me try
Wonder Woman had the lasso of truth but didn't try it.
This was awesome. And after this the FAILSAFE storyline that need needs its own animated or live action movie.
DC animated movies will always be better then the live action movies
Failsafe could've used a little more fixing. Not to kill but to incapacitate and contain till he was back to normal or were he could've been put somewhere he wouldn't have been a threat anymore
@@mariusconstantin6057 or lock them up should they become a permanent threat
This is an animated movie. Justice League Doom.
If ever you feel like a terrible friend, just remember Batman obstinately refuses to kill any of his villains, whereas he has contingency plans to murder each member of the Justice League
Ha ha ...
Not Kill, incapatate.
Murder won’t be the right word
It makes sense. If they went rogue with their powers, it would cause a lot of problems for the world.
In the movie the meteor is depicted as the same color as the Lazarus Pits, implying the shower was the source of the Pits.
Question. How the HECK does a life imprisonment sentence work on someone with an indefinite lifespan? He's most certainly going to outlive the current justice system.
He will still stay there, that easy. It doesn't matter if a criminal outlives the court that sentenced him, he will just stay there. Most likely he will still try to escape but then another hero will catch him and another court will sentence him
Vandal Savage can be an intriguing adversary or ally.
the funny part is, not sure if its from this or in the comics (it was the tower of babel story line), after batman says that the justice league is the contingency plan for batman supes says "but if you know all our weaknesses how is the justice league supposed to be the contingency plan for the batman" i cant remember what happened but it think batman was like he believes in them or just shrugs it off later we learn he has a contingency plan for himself if he goes rogue and its called failsafe i aint gonna explain it since its pretty short read it yourself that is one of the coolest comics ever
U are right it is based on the Tower of Babel story its well documented it even says it on the dvd cover lol
10:16 while flirting through the sky into the water “leaving him unharmed” 😂
Love how Fire being only used on manhunter yet it Is everyone weakness lol
The fact that they were mad at batman is kinda absurd
Figured it'd be Sinestro and not Star Sapphire, since yellow is fear and violet is love. Then again, I haven’t been keeping up with shows that much
At the end he explanied how Vandal Savage is the definition of " You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain " quote.
You mispronounced kryptonite. I remember actually watching the movie. One thing I wondered about is why they thought they had to use a Kryptonite laser scalpel because the Kryptonite bullet that was already in his chest should have weakened Superman enough for ordinary medical tools to remove it
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His chest had healed over the kryptonite, making it impervious to all tools while the bullet continued to damage and poison his vitals from the inside
But Kryptonite makes him 'mortal', essentially. @@vqqiu2179
If you look at this movie and "Superman/Batman: Public Enemies", they made Kryptonite poison Superman but not instantly remove all his powers and abilities (which never made much sense to me) so it's not an instant win button.
@@sabishiihitoit's always been more of a slow drain on him.
Superman can also be weakened by red solar radiation. Not only that, but if he's not within the distance of the yellow sun he loses his powers.
Btw it's stated in Injustice 2 even red solar radiation can't hold him. Even without yellow sun , Superman can absorb other forms of radiation and get other powers (he absorbed negative radiation in apokolpis and became negative Superman). Kryptonite is the only thing that can actually weaken his powers
I never understand in DC movies and shows why people get mad at Batman for contingency plans or underhanded tactics. Because every time I've seen it happen, Batman was right about whatever was going on.
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In the comics, Green Lantern, Martian Manhunter, and The Flash wanted to keep Batman in the league. They are smart enough to know that an out of control JL would be dangerous and they need a plan, in case it happens.
Justice League Doom is one of my favorite DC movies.
I loved the part where Batman only had 24 hours to live
This is easily one of my favorite movies of all time and probably is my favorite comic book movie. So many great batman moments, an interesting story, good moments from all the heroes and villains involved, and well done fight scenes. I have no complaints and could gush all day. That being said, I really want more versions of this arc our there. The batman kinda did it in one of its season 4 arcs, but it wasn't nearly as good and altered it quite a bit to fit the shows narrative.
What is the name of the movie plese ?
@@santan546 justice league doom
@@Obileo346thank so much !
i wonder what improvements that Batman make for the Batmobile after Mirror Master incident
Its a great lighthearted (except contingency plans of course) movie, animated DC doesn't disappoint😊
The LIVE DC movie bosses should've watch a couple of these animated DC movies as a guide for the DCEU movie universe because they're SO GOOD.
Amazing they are made for WAY less than the live movies, yet have more intelligence, are cohesively scripted and don't spend their time stop and staring.
David
did he have a plan for what happens if thsoe plans got stolen and it's lethal?
Alfred wanted to stitch Bruce cause he was bleeding on his just washed flour 😂
Green Lantern showing the miners the way out of the mine.....they work in the mine...pretty sure they know the way in and out...
One of my favourite DC animated movies
The title?
Justice League Doom
That title I’m not gonna say anything but you know😂
If I'm remembering correctly, in the comics, Supermans fate was actually far more grim.
I think they used some strange form of (potentially artificial) Kryptonite that essentially turned Supermans skin translucent, meaning the solar radiation passing through his skin wasn't dulled or diluted in any way and instead became super concentrated, like focusing sunlight through a magnifying glass. It was like his entire body, even his internal organs, were getting the most intense sunburn imaginable, which was pure agony for him and basically rendered him unable to move because of the pain.
I am so glad that he had a contengiency plan for the contengiency plan, lol.
He foresaw that someone foresaw that he foresaw justice league going rogue and created contingency plans for his contingency plans. ☠️
Bringing up The Royal Flush gang only reminds me of Ace's final moments... not fair
Probably one of the best lines I've heard from the movie.
people be realistic all of them could kill batman within seconds before he could deploy a plan 😂
The villains had forgot one hero, cyborg
well cyborg is still not part of the justice league when the time they attacked so cyborg still not a target 🤷♂
@@GhostMojojojoCyborg is also part of the Teen Titans.
Besides, Victor is almost a robot. There are plenty of ways to defeat him or at least neutralize him
So is the Immortal a rip-off version of Vandal Savage?
DCAU Vandal Savage is best Vandal Savage. We never got to see Superman talk Savage out of doing something horrible, but I think we could have. I liked that version of the character.
The Earth-16 version is also pretty interesting. He is a general preparing Earth for an inevitable war. Misguided, but he's right that ultimately Earth will have to contend with Apokolips.
GL stopping the solar flare was an epic moment
About wonder woman could she have used lasso in herself and got better of herself
Even though the comics had a much more insane backup plan, I think having the entire Justice League as his check does somewhat make sense when you account for the fact that half of them can kill him without even him knowing. Superman? Orbital death beam. Flash? With a decent writer, he'd be dead in a second. Martian Manhunter? Turns him into a vegetable.
7:53 Kryptomite? KRYPTOMITE?! 😂
Nah all of those batman from dark multiverse already beat all of their justice league, batman trusting that justice league can stop him is actually showing us how he still trust other and can be naive as other people (or he only say that to superman so superman doesn't need to think it over). In the end batman only trust himself to stop himself using his own "failsafe" plan
I think a movie where Savage and Ra's calab would be good.
There is a few errors that you say in this video. Batman rushes off in the batmobile...no that was the Batwing...for example.
Where can I find the move and there is a season and what is the episode is it?
Justice League Doom 2012
Mirror Man? You said it correctly earlier in the video.
What ep or movie was it so I can watch the full of it
Justice League Doom
9:59. No that was his Batwing not Batmobile.
Superman gave him the idea when he gave the Kryptonite to Batman.
Mirror MASTER! These syntax errors undermine the entertainment value of the video.
Justice League: Doom. Great movie, although the ending is kinda sad, but still a great movie.
What's funny is that Vandal Savage is Immortal, but not Invulnerable (in most interpretations) so imagine if this was true in here and Cheetah just murdered him randomly lmfao
Why didn’t Batman have a security system in his bat cave
These criminals should have become special interest and done all this legally with via fiat currency. In the past, it was forcing cities to take out loans at high interest rates, now its special interests. -_-
It would have been helpful if you had mentioned the title of the actual film!
Justice League Doom. Movie name is at the end of the Video 14:45
Now imagine how different things would have been, if even one of the JLA members had died because of this.
Batman is the greatest strategy man in the world...there is nothing or no war or opponent that he can defeat
4:24 really said super heroines
what episode of serires is this?
Justice League Doom (2012)
Who is older vandal savage or apocalypse?
Savage
Savage is Older
What's the name of the movie?
Justice League Doom.
How does Martian Manhunter have an evil twin? He was the only Martian left...he is all alone...
which movie/series? year?
Justice League Doom 2012
Great stuff 😮 thank you! Zack Synder would make a great movie 🍿🍿 with this, how can I watch this version? And what is the name of this Justice league cartoon please?
What do you mean Green Lantern's weakness isn't Yellow
Movie name
Justice League Doom (2012)
How can I watch this series?
Justice League Doom 2012 Movie
He's bathuman,nuff said!
The animation looks like it's from young justice.
One of the Best movie cartoon of DC ever
Why is Batman always the focus of these superhero movies? I get that he's human and has no powers and is more relatable, but I prefer Green Lantern? He has no superpowers, just a ring that will create whatever he can think of. His whole skillset is completely dependent on mental focus/control and being able to have a clear mind in the heat of battle, but he's more of a cocky joke character.
One word Nostalgia
100% True
If batman went rouge he has failsafe to deal with
name and episode plz
Justice League Doom 2012
How the hell did Bane know to bury BRUCE WAYNE alive to stop BATMAN?!?
🤔
Is the talking needed?
Why do these videos almost never mention the name of the movie?
Justice League : Doom 2012
in the comic that this animated film is based on, it wasn't Vandal Savage who started the plot to use Batman's contingency plan files to attack the League's weak spots, it was Ra's Al Ghul, who used Talia to steal the files and then use them against the League
@@firxanza5172 What is the name of the comic?
Tower of Babel
I don’t care what the league says or what any fans say. I say Batman made the right call. Even the purest of us can cause bad.
Vandal savage is a savage living in earth
What episode is this
Justice League Doom 2012
What is the name of this show or movie
Justice League Doom
of everyone in the Justice League, Batman is right about his actions. everyone has a weakness and those weaknesses can be exploited in a way to temporarily stop them under the event that even one member ends up turning evil on their own or by mind control. this isnt a breach of trust, they were trying to breach his trust thinking his contingency plans were unacceptable