My hot take on streaming in general: every one of these studios completely missed why Netflix & Hulu were successful. These two rose to power as a one-two punch of "here's your one stop, everything on demand library of old TV favorites and the latest episodes of current hits." The original content on both was just a bonus. By making their back-catalogs exclusive to their own platforms, the big studios have created a model where they're now fully dependent on original content to boost continued subscriptions from people who really just wanted to watch a handful of their popular shows & movies -- and the fact is that most of these production companies are left either desperately milking existing IP because the truly original material doesn't land as often with audiences, or they're spending millions trying to create the next great "prestige television" hit and praying it doesn't bankrupt them.
Yeah, I gotta be honest, they could do significantly lower budget shows and it would probably be fine. To give an example, Deep Space 9 cost around 2 million per episode back in the late 90s, inflation adjusted, that's about 3.8 million today. Discovery, meanwhile, is over 8 million per episode. A better comparison would be the Expanse, which had an average episode cost between 2 and 3.5 million with the big budget spectacle episodes rising to 5 million.
I can totally understand why a company like NBC or Disney would think that they can go it alone. The most consistently popular shows on Netflix were Friends, Office, and Seinfeld. NBC was trying to cut out the middlemen. It's a shame that the original form of Hulu (a common platform shared by the major networks) didn't stick around.
I mean, I agree but I also think it was inevitable - As soon as Netflix became a household name I figured sooner or later this would happen and I don't think the big studios weren't aware of it either. But you have to see it how they see it - it's not really about just producing more content to keep people there - it is an arms race and they all want to be the last one standing, and the enclosure of their back-catalogues was simply the move to try and amass some relevance, which is obviously worse for everyone but companies like Disney have been canibalizing their own material for quite a while even bf the Streaming Wars began, so while I hate everything that came out as you pointed out, I think it is hardly about the streaming model itself - today companies just want to make the maximum amount of money at the moment and think very little about the sustainability of their business model - most companies being huge conglomerates certainly doesn't help since they have money to burn to keep their corporate machine churning
Yep. They're so quick to cancel stuff too! 1899 being cancelled within a month of launching has moved me to never watch a new Netflix show until it's complete.
Their business model is about attracting new customers and there's an inherent flaw with that in that they don't seem to care about retaining existing customers. Until they change this approach they'll never listen to customers.
When it comes to physicial media, I want to give a shout out to public libraries. Getting a library card is free depending on where you live and a lot of them have dvds of movies and TV shows that are on streaming sites I don't have access to or not on streaming sites entirely.
Your library must be seriously underutilized compared to mine! I think more than 50% of the disc-based media I’ve checked out from my local library in the past decade (including DVDs, Blu-Ray, even audiobook CDs) has been scratched seriously enough to render at least one scene, if not the whole disc, unwatchable; I still check out books from there, but I’ve given up on any movies that have been out for more than two months. I’ve never had a single scratch on any disc I’ve owned, so I don’t know what people are doing; actively taking razor blades to the discs?? I work for a university library now, and the movies I’ve gotten from there or on loan from other universities have all turned out fine. If you live near one, it might be worth checking if they have any borrowing privileges for non-students; mine does.
I liked the semi batch model that was used for Arcane. To release 3 episodes at a time, gave me enough to watch to feel satisfied and also enough to convince my friends and discuss the show with them. It would maybe need more testing, but I agree that the binge system is dying.
Haven’t watch Arcane but I’ve thought that model would work back when Netflix and Hulu were the only streaming services. Would be great to see it be tried out with more shows.
The one place where Netflix is still very strong is in their foreign-language imports. Even years before Squid Game was a big hit, Netflix maintained a pretty deep library from places like China, India and mainland Europe.
Netflix is pretty much a flop in India because of their original Indian content in general. They create extremely xenophobic content against Indians which is atrocious considering India is the only country in the world where the people have allowed so many other religions, languages and people to thrive and prosper.
Netflix also has the most alternative language friendly options; they have the most dubbing in multiple foreign languages than all other services, which really helped transition my parents away from a cable subscription.
This is a fun format, especially branching out into other topics. Also, Netflixs best feature is that you can look at the season and episode lists while watching the show so you dont need to exit the show to navigate it
Could choosing between the binge model and weekly model ever be a creative decision? I occasionally watch binge model shows and think how it would’ve been better suited for the weekly model and vice versa. I know right now it’s very much a business decision, though, but could you ever see a showrunner going one day, “I truly believe this specific season is fit for the binge model”?
And they oughta be able to switch it up if they want to! Maybe they do one season and realize they should have done it the other way, so they switch it for the next season. I absolutely think it should be a creative decision.
@@awesome3139 Arcane -last year- (2021) released in 3 acts one act each week. Feels like a creative decision because it gave time for people to talk about the show and speculate on the next act, helped foster community driven discussion and encouraged everyone to be more excited for the show when the next act dropped. I am doubtfull most shows that get released all at once are good for the binge model.
CANNOT AGREE MORE WITH YOUR SEVERANCE TAKE. Super underrated and finally a true successor to lost, not just mystery for mystery sake. It's a cinematographic masterpiece of a story that is intriguing enough to deserve mystery surrounding it. Amazing premise
I like Netflix okay when it has shows I enjoy, but one thing that really grinds my gears is the fact that their algorithm works a little TOO well. I like a wide variety of shows and movies depending on my mood, but Netflix only suggests content that's similar to what I've recently watched. The end result is that I don't realize when other content is available until I get a newsletter from Netflix saying that it's leaving the platform. It's really annoying, because I would probably watch more on Netflix (which I imagine is what they want) if only I knew which content was there.
I think weekly model is supreme and this is evident by Disney+ going back to the model. Not only does it bring discussion back, but it also means that you can keep people subscribing for multiple months to keep watching the show week to week. I think in the end, we're going back to weekly stuff with a few rare exceptions.
I can't believe Hulu isn't doing weekly with The Bear. HBO dominated the weekly prestige conversation for a year with HotD, White Lotus, Last of Us, and Succession, and finally slipped up with The Idol. Hulu has a show ready to go that's going to appeal to those same people and let them take the crown, and they're dropping it all as one as a binge instead!
I think it needs to merge the two. Like release 2 episodes a week cuz I don’t like waiting for one episode a week but the constant binging also drains some enjoyment
@@alarrim29574I agree. Because some episodes of the Bear link together better than others. Id prefer the writers not be boxed into pairing or isolating episodes. Unless that’s a fun way for them to approach the show. Why do parts have to be released on sets of two? I like what kaleidoscope did maybe shows can release sets of a story. Are seasons still relevant? We already have 8 episode that is a new occurrence.
@@samiehmed4919sometimes like the shorter seasons. Before when they did the 12-13 episode seasons, you knew that at least 2 or 3 episodes were filler and ruined the pacing of the show overall. This most services switched to a 10 episode season. If it's shorter than that, they're just making an extended movie with one over-all, plot. Most longer series had to slowly pad out a larger narrative in a bunch of b-plots or filler, now they can or should just jump right into the story they want to tell immediately.
A couple takes : 1. I actually use Hulu more than the other services. That will change come later this year as Disney+ get's Dr Who. 2. Netflix needs to fix a issue that bugs me - why do I have to turn my volume up to 75 just to barely hear the dialog in a show when I can keep it at 20 for everything else? 3. To all of the channels - we have these things call light bulbs. Learn to use them when filming.
@@TimothyCollins audio mixing is based on the show, not the streaming service. i would suggesting getting surround sound 5.1 speakers or using subtitles if you're hard of hearing.
I don't know why Netflix shows specifically are so horribly lit and mixed. I get that they're trying to make things sound better on high quality speakers, but they've done that to the point where dialogue will always sound horrendous on regular devices.
4:15 - I legit had no idea that "Peacock" referred to the NBC logo until you mentioned it here. To be fair, I'm an Australian that can't access Peacock legit (even if I wanted to lol), but following the streaming "wars" it just never even occured to me!
A problem with netflix is releasing the entire season at once, people talk about the show for a week and then it dies. it makes it so much more difficult for a show to build an audience through word of mouth. Another problem is dragging stuff out, so many docs are way longer then they should be and are hurt really badly because of that. at the end of the day I still think netflix is still releasing the most good shows out of all of these platforms but it definitely is not as good as it once was and those good releases are becoming rarer. while everyone else seems to be improving.
Yeah, thanks to others streaming services that Netflix lost 200,000 costumes and doing a pour choice of canceling the share account idea. Thanks to greed for the streaming services of other so petty time soon Netflix, Disney, and other streaming channels will go to bankruptcy.
Netflix has the most popular shows. In 2022, stranger things, Dahmer and Wednesday were the most watched shows. This year Queen Charlotte, Fubar and Night Agent are huge so your wrong .
I’d love to hear more of your take on Ted Lasso. I find that the show is spilling over with heart, but I also always open to exploring the views of others, especially when they differ from my own
Since everyone else is covering their streaming service takes, I do want to give you feedback and say that this video was well made. I enjoy the idea of you engaging with your community in a way that lets them participate and feel as if they're part of the channel as well. So I do look forward to future videos in the same vein of community involvement.
I’ve been watching your content for a while, but finding out you’re a fellow Arlo watcher is what tipped me over the edge for a subscribe. Seriously, tho, I really like your style of discussion on media, and while ranty videos about how Disney did another bad are very cathartic, I enjoy how level-headed you are and the way you look at every angle.
I’m actually shocked that studios are releasing their movies on VOD/streaming services so EARLY after their theatre run. Do they realise how us Gen Z can pirate the movies for free in HD ?!?!
Right, like a friend of mine sent me a stream a few weeks after the Mario movie had just hit theaters. I saw that it was out on DvD last week, and I'm pretty sure that the movie only came out like a month or 2 ago. Pirates are really eating good today because of these streaming wars. I remember back in the day if you wanted to watch a bootleg, you had to deal with dogshit quality for like a year, maybe several until someone uploaded a halfway decent quality rip of a DvD that was a 360-480p .flv at best. Now, everything is leaked as a bluray quality, 4k .mp4 video within a month.... shit's wild.
Hot take: As much some people hate Netflix, they legit provide the best experience out of all streaming services. The UI, UX, compatibility with platforms, aesthetic of their apps, seamless payments, somewhat-uniform systems across countries, and even their huge catalogue are simply unmatched imo. I'm from India and Netflix has the absolute widest catalogue of Indian content (even original shows and movies).
@@EziodaBsurM Literally all of FX, Some great anime series, a lot of movies like Palm Beach with Andy Samberg, The Truman Show (It’s on other stuff now tho thankfully), They had all of American Pie at one point, and they even had a lot of classic childhood shows like Chowder, Dragon Ball, Flapjack, and Transformers Prime however I will say now a lot more streaming services have this stuff so it doesn’t make a lot of this stuff unique anymore. Also I do recommend the movie Buffalo only cuz I enjoyed it
The binge model sucks because you can never know where a fellow fan of something is in the show, released week to week is so much easier to discuss a show with other people which really helps the show grow.
This is exactly how it is with my friends. When the Mandalorian is happening, we're all generally at the same spot (at worst one of us is an episode behind), and can discuss the show more freely. When Stranger Things drops, it's very hard to have a conversation about the show for at least a month, because not all of us can binge a show in one weekend, and usually by then we're already over it.
In discussing Apple+ you focused a lot on the shows, but it is also worth noting that while Netflix has been putting out movies with Oscar hopes for years, it was was Apple+ that had the first Best Picture winner from a primarily streaming studio.
Max, Hulu, and Apple TV are the definitive choices within our household. In regard to quality, the content produced by FX and HBO is unmatched. There are hundreds of amazing shows/miniseries on these platforms, so you’ll always have something intriguing to watch.
i will say that shudder is the one streaming service i have full on LOVED. i love horror and so it was really awesome getting to go thru old movies and compare those to more modern ones :) def recommend for anyone who really likes horror
iTunes is still surprisingly relevant for buying movies. It's got the best bitrate out of any non-enthusiast service plus the UI, extras support, catalogue, and pricing (at least if you wait for sales) are all pretty great. Personally though I find the best thing about it is that lots of physical media contains codes that let you view your movies digitally through iTunes.
I know I’m late to comment and watch this but please keep doing this. This was really interesting and refreshing to hear your comments off the till like this. You should make more about specific tv shows, franchises, or anything else in the entertainment industry.
A lot of digital storefronts support bonus features for movies, like Movies Anywhere and Vudu. It varies by studio, but the biggest movies of the last several years and older ones from big franchises have things like deleted scenes and commentaries.
i'm really torn on the topic of binge model vs weekly shows. Personally, I hate waiting a week or more to watch the next episode. It REALLY takes me out of the story. I love having an experience where I can watch a show in the span of a weekand be totally immersed in that world (I never binge in 1-2 days). But for a lot of shows (right now I'm into queer Asian dramas), it's amazing to be able to connect with others over discussing the events of each episode and that's really hard to do if someone people have already seen the whole thing and others are still catching up. It's nearly impossible.
I don’t understand why so much of the discussion about streaming services is about the originals. Yeah I watched Tulsa King, Grand Tour and some of the Star Wars shows when they came out, but other than that I prefer the back catalog. The recent things I watched on Disney+ are Malcom in the Middle, the Simpsons, Thank You for Smoking, and Conquest of the Planet of the Apes. I recently watched Breaking Bad on Netflix. I am impressed with Disney+ for having a large back catalogue of their movies, but I wish they made it easier to just look through some suggested movies
The streaming services should really be building for consistency and long term sustainablity. It's not enough to have a show or movie be a huge hit, it has to be able to maintain high viewership over time so they keep their subscribers around. They need shows like The Office, Friends, Breaking Bad, Parks & Rec, etc. Shows that may not get massive numbers but the viewership is consistently high year after year. They would also benefit from smaller shows like 30 Rock, The Good Place, Star Trek, etc. with loyal passionate audiences. But the problem is that it goes against corporate mindset. Companies want huge short term quarterly profits to impress their investors. And many of those types of shows provide steady long term returns and that's not enough for them.
This worked out really well! If you find a week where you need to make a video and you dont have the time or the will for one of your regular topics, do one of these again, they are fun!
If you don't want to watch a show all in one sitting, you're able to watch it one episode per week. But if it's released that way, then I CAN'T binge it.
Hot takes: Disney+ is basically as niche as Shudder but no one acknowledges it. Unless you have kids you’re only turning it on once a week to watch the new Star Wars or Marvel show. Tubi and Pluto tv have great eclectic catalogues and I more hours of Tubi a week than all of my paid services combined. Amazon is a 5 show service that does a better job selling other streamers than itself. Streaming is the only industry where I miss the days when it was a monopoly. It’s like that meme about how capitalism breeds innovation and then it shows 30 crispy chicken sandwiches. It’s that but each sandwich restaurant isn’t allowed to use the same spices as another.
The United States was always more spoiled for choice when it came to streaming. Even the US Netflix still has more content than its overseas counterparts. Still, here in Australia there is a lot more content for a country of 25 million people because although we don't have HBO Max or Peacock, a lot of their content is located on local streamers Stan and Binge.
Of the major platforms & regardless of any issues with the platform itself: Max contains the best catalogue of award winning films, both modern and classic. Most other services feel far too bloated with pumping out modern popcorn - where you end up having to spend ages sorting through the junk to find anything good.
Netflix stopped making worthwhile TV when they went 100% into the data-driven stuff, making stuff that's tailored to garner as much watch time as possible as opposed to anything else. The problem is that truly great shows and movies challenge the viewer.
AppleTV is BY FAR my favorite. They put more care into their shows and original movies than any other platform I’ve seen. They seem really committed to telling the full story. Will that change? Maybe. But I’ve never been afraid to start a show on AppleTV. And their production value seems a cut above the rest. I know many people aren’t fans of cinematography and set design as much as I am, but for me that’s a huge selling point. Details matter and AppleTV knows that. Except when it comes to usability of its app. It’s one of the most frustrating apps to use and I often forgo a show I want to watch on AppleTV for something I’m not as interested in on Netflix just because I don’t have the time or patience to deal with AppleTV’s buggy platform.
In general it seems like Apple has learned the value of supporting a service with their other products. I mean just look at how long they've commited to Apple Maps. But yeah, their tvOS UX is kind of trash in lots of their apps. It's a shame cause I love how crisp and good it looks when you aren't trying to interact with it. Plus tvOS apps like Infuse are an absolute dream to browse using their UI framework.
Ah, I still think my Peacock take of their comparatively impressive live sports options is where streaming will go. Even if Peacock isn't there by the end. Sports drives TV more than just about any other genre.
If you went into Ted Lasso expecting a comedy I can see why you wouldn’t care for it. It’s much more focused on strong character moments over getting laughs. To me what makes it such a good show is how refreshingly wholesome it is in an era where so much of prestige TV is about gruesome subject matter and cynicism.
Omg totally agree with the thing about Netflix jumping to the next show/movie after you got done watching it. I remember watching Lord of the Rings on there, and I'd have to quickly press the "watch credits" thing. With the last movie, I fast forwarded back through the whole movie to see the credits bc a giant picture of some other movie showed up on the screen, then the time ran out 😭😭 why???
Im Actually buying more physical media when it comes to movies. A bunch of 4K movie releases are jam packed with bundles with regular blu-rays, dvds, Directors Cuts, and other features. Ive bought more UHD movies this year then blu-rays and DVDs in the past 12 years. The quality is awesome and for pictures like Star Trek: The Motion Picture (which I never found much to like) are a tottally new experience when you see the directors cut in remastered UHD. I really came to appreciate the model and matte work that went into that movie. Streaming still hasnt caught up in that regard.
My only hot take is that Discovery+ is actually underrated - lots of nostalgic Animal Planet, Food Network, and Discovery shows for me. Plus good reality TV for my wife.
Completely Random Streaming Mild Takes: -Any Streaming Service with unique profile pictures that feature a character >>> -Max's mobile performance is a really good improvement compared to the original HBO Max app -But Max is absolutely terrible to find something because the massive influx of Discovery+ shows. All my HBO Max discovery has been taken over by true crime and TLC, which is annoying. -Disney Plus is still probably the best *value* in streaming in terms of a strong back catelog and regular releases -Every mobile platform for Streaming Services needs to include picture in picture. If im watching something at work, and then need to reply to an email, i dont want to have to reload the episode/movie or find where i was when i am done. Just give me the option to let the episode play on in a small bubble on my phone/tablet
I didn't grow up on the binge model, but I loved it from my first time. I absorb the content better and have far more thoughts on what I'm watching when I can enjoy in fewer sittings. Anything i watch that's a weekly show, i have to come back and rewatch it in a binge later anyway
I'm not against the binge model, but it doesn't suit every show or type of storytelling. Some types of shows really do work better as weekly self contained stories. It also puts a lot of shows into a very strange spot of being, essentially, extremely long movies masquerading as TV shows, which really messes with the pacing.
I really like this format. You give off some many ideas very fast and still manage to develop them I don’t agree with all your takes, but that’s not rlly the point and the disagreement but still seeing where your coming from and even in some places convincing me makes this a really great video and I would love to see more
2:45 i went with Paramount+ as an add on rather than getting a whole new website service outright. Rather stick with something familiar, as long as the library isn't restricted of some titles or leaving anything out.
BROO I miss legit Behind The Scenes so much. I remember it being during the BlueRay era where it really felt like they were being edited down more, and the bloopers just turned into throwin funny music over shots of the actors making a face at the camera. It started to become less personal and less like it was actually trying to show you how the movie was made, which made the decked out "interactive" menu screens feel even more disappointing when they lead to next to nothing
Not even a hot take but the Discovery merger was probably the worst thing that happened to Max. As someone who mainly used it for DC's back catalog I find it frustrating knowing that I have to be scared of seeing something I love and enjoy just vanish from the site, like what happened with Space Ghost: Coast to Coast also I find it really frustrating that once the Crunchyroll license was given to Sony post-buyout they didn't do anything with giving the anime a separate hub, like a Toonami hub would be REALLY nice
13:36 I think you're right with how the binge model can hurt shows that have a decent story and can probably generate a slow build and stuff week to week. I think we should definitely keep that week to week model. Also I think there are probably some shows that you could probably just dump out all at once that just plays better that way to get it all out there. Like some shows that work better as an extended movie fit that model. Maybe some comedy shows that aren't really all that great that you just want to get out there or something. I don't have an exact answer for which model works best for what show as a straight up formula. But I think Netflix should really figure that out to maybe try and give some other shows a chance and maybe work up to stuff below the level of Stranger Things to build up the chatter and talk and stuff. no idea what could possibly fit that model, just that they should experiment and figure it out somehow.
I honestly would've said HBO Max was the best streaming service. But ever since they switched over to Max I haven't been able to stream anything on it on my PS4. It's been like that since May 23rd and it's June 19th today when I post this. Kinda inexcusable that they haven't put out an update to get the app to work. I've even been in contact with them through their Twitter help page but even then I'm like talking to a brick wall. Just has been very annoying.
I kinda miss flow TV, where you could turn on the TV and watch whichever episode was on. Sometimes I just want to watch a show I like, without having to watch it from the beginning or having to pick the episode I want to watch. I would love a feature on streaming service where you can ask the platform to select a random episode of a show and then just run from there.
To what you said about Paramount+, I despise the Peacock PS4 app. It works fine if I stream a live event like WWE or the Premier League, but if I try to catalogue stuff, it’s a miserable experience. It feels like half time if I select something from the main page, the app will start the video, fail to load it, and then crash. Maybe it works better if you have the ad free version, but it’s certainly not earned the trust of more $ per month.
My problem with Netflix is they cancel shows just as they are finding their feet and finding out what they want to be. "Oh hey this show is getting really good.........oh they cancelled it!" Its kind of a miracle Bojack made it as far as it did (at least it got to end properly!) As for the binge model. I do that often with shows but studies have shown that when you binge a whole series you actually retain less of the plot than if you are watching a show on a weekly basis. I have noticed too that more recent streaming shows that drop weekly tend to get more buzz and I think its part the social aspect where you watch that weeks episode then chat about it with friends who like it too, going over what happened and speculating what might be next. If I love a show or movie I am definitely buying it on physical media. I like being able to watch the things I love whenever I want without having to worry about a sub. I do worry that streaming and digital versions will entirely replace physical media, which I would hate. I love my DVDs and Blu Rays packed full of extras :P
Removing HBO's name from HBO Max was a great idea. What's stupid was, that they settled on 'Max' as their name. They could've called it Warner Max or WB Max. But just 'Max' is stupid.
After watching all 3 seasons of Dickinson on Apple tv, I'm surprised I haven't heard anyone talking about it. I won't say it's the best tv show in streaming, or even on their service, but I loved it so much and it felt really unique and genuine.
Cool new format! Definitely looking forward to hearing your opinion on people's hot takes :) Especially when it comes to such specific subjects. Usually never comment on anything but love your channel!
Excluding RUclips and the Rifftrax app, I mainly stick to just Tubi and AppleTV, because I know I won't have to scroll so long before giving up and put a dvd on. I have Hulu as part of their deal with Spotify, and Prime, but I didn't sign up specifically for those services, they're just a nice bonus for me.
I grew up with having to wait week to week and tune in to the correct channel at the correct time with many commercials during it. I will forever love the binge model. If a show is being released week to week, I will wait until the show is fully released to watch it. And I think the real winner in all this is Sony, just licensing everything out and not having to build a steaming service and infrastructure. Thanks for all the great videos!
The streaming wars have done a great job of reducing the amount of tv and movies i watch. I dont watch any of this crap now... i bought a bike and a kayak & thats what i do instead. I honestly dont care what happens to baby yoda. I havent seen any of the shows you mention in this video, and i dont feel like im missing out at all.
I enjoy Netflix but see what you mean about the binge watching. An example of cancelled shows before they finished is Mindhunter. High expenses were the reason why it got canceled so to fix it the overall problem I’d say Netflix should stop relying on big names like David Fincher to keep shows running. I believe the guy is truly passionate about film but Mindhunter was more than just himself.
14:52 Netflix, Disney+ and Prime allow you to disable the autoplay stuff. It's not a big deal... however, German streaming WOW does not only not allow you to turn it off, it also does not allow you to stop it from happening by picking up the controller, and it also will do this sometimes before the credits when important shit is still happening. It was awful watching Raised by Wolves (which was only there in Germany, since WOW has a HBOMax Licence) and bought the show on blue Ray because of it.
I definitely think more videos like this would be a good idea, personally I have loved hearing your counter points and or agreements with the community. Super fun video
Not surprised nobody "thought of the children" the way different streaming services handle parental controls and the distinct UI for minors is a big differentiator. For example: Netflix feels like the gold standard. Disney feels like an afterthought. Max is actively harmful, I don't let Mt kids use it
You really think Disney is gonna just roll Hulu into D+? I don’t know, I see Hulu as the Miramax or now Fox of the Disney brand. It allows them to release stuff other than the brand safe Disney stuff
Speaking of streaming services starting something at the credits, Hulu has been skipping the endings of tv shows like King of the hill and I need to click watch credits to finish an episode. Personally, I like watching the credits for a bit after a movie or show instead of another distraction thrown at me.
2:09 I am always fascinated using Paramount how bad the app is. I remember a few years back using CBS All Access and having it at least be functioning. No clue how they managed to make it so much worse when they renamed it.
I get what you mean about the binge model killing hype but if I'm invested that waiting period is murder on my psyche lol, that's why even though I love anime, I've been waiting for most of the major ones to wrap up or at least get close before i watch them, like aot, great animation, political intrigue, great fights, basically what made me love fma and got me into anime yet I'm still waiting because waiting 12 years for a 7 part season is unbearable. Also unrelated but yeah the Netflix ui is damn annoying, if I get up to do something while on the home page it just starts playing an episode, and even when browsing I usually mute my tv so it doesn't start playing audio for something I don't give a shit about
The difference between Apple TV and the rest is that even if they “fail” traditionally, they can indefinitely prop themselves up or simply become the “art house” of the streaming world. Because… Apple
For ME, netflix has the Crown, Cobra Kai, but those new seasons are so few and far apart it leaves me wondering why I dont start and stop my subscription.
I still don’t get why they always cancel good shows. Inside Job is a great example. It was popular, everyone seemed to enjoy it, but then Netflix cancelled it for the almost universally despised Bigmouth. What’s the deal?!
It’s all numbers and completion rates - other RUclipsrs have explained why. I’m not saying it’s right but there is a logic to Netflix’s seeming madness.
My hot take on streaming in general: every one of these studios completely missed why Netflix & Hulu were successful. These two rose to power as a one-two punch of "here's your one stop, everything on demand library of old TV favorites and the latest episodes of current hits." The original content on both was just a bonus. By making their back-catalogs exclusive to their own platforms, the big studios have created a model where they're now fully dependent on original content to boost continued subscriptions from people who really just wanted to watch a handful of their popular shows & movies -- and the fact is that most of these production companies are left either desperately milking existing IP because the truly original material doesn't land as often with audiences, or they're spending millions trying to create the next great "prestige television" hit and praying it doesn't bankrupt them.
Yeah, I gotta be honest, they could do significantly lower budget shows and it would probably be fine. To give an example, Deep Space 9 cost around 2 million per episode back in the late 90s, inflation adjusted, that's about 3.8 million today. Discovery, meanwhile, is over 8 million per episode.
A better comparison would be the Expanse, which had an average episode cost between 2 and 3.5 million with the big budget spectacle episodes rising to 5 million.
I can totally understand why a company like NBC or Disney would think that they can go it alone. The most consistently popular shows on Netflix were Friends, Office, and Seinfeld. NBC was trying to cut out the middlemen.
It's a shame that the original form of Hulu (a common platform shared by the major networks) didn't stick around.
You hit the mark with the first sentence
I mean, I agree but I also think it was inevitable - As soon as Netflix became a household name I figured sooner or later this would happen and I don't think the big studios weren't aware of it either. But you have to see it how they see it - it's not really about just producing more content to keep people there - it is an arms race and they all want to be the last one standing, and the enclosure of their back-catalogues was simply the move to try and amass some relevance, which is obviously worse for everyone but companies like Disney have been canibalizing their own material for quite a while even bf the Streaming Wars began, so while I hate everything that came out as you pointed out, I think it is hardly about the streaming model itself - today companies just want to make the maximum amount of money at the moment and think very little about the sustainability of their business model - most companies being huge conglomerates certainly doesn't help since they have money to burn to keep their corporate machine churning
Exactly, people didnt get netflix because it had all these great shows, they watched all these great shows cause they were all on Netflix
Netflix needs to listen to their costumers and not cancel good shows
Ice cold take
Yep. They're so quick to cancel stuff too! 1899 being cancelled within a month of launching has moved me to never watch a new Netflix show until it's complete.
Their business model is about attracting new customers and there's an inherent flaw with that in that they don't seem to care about retaining existing customers. Until they change this approach they'll never listen to customers.
It’s literally the same reason why like Namco Bandai steered toward Pachinko machines, easier short term profit, outweighs, long-term quality projects
Yes i got so frustrated when they did not continue Mindhunter. Which was probably one of the best (netflix) series in recent memory
When it comes to physicial media, I want to give a shout out to public libraries. Getting a library card is free depending on where you live and a lot of them have dvds of movies and TV shows that are on streaming sites I don't have access to or not on streaming sites entirely.
Seconded. This has helped me access so many decent movies I otherwise couldn't have. As well as the fact that libraries are just nice places to be in.
Your library must be seriously underutilized compared to mine! I think more than 50% of the disc-based media I’ve checked out from my local library in the past decade (including DVDs, Blu-Ray, even audiobook CDs) has been scratched seriously enough to render at least one scene, if not the whole disc, unwatchable; I still check out books from there, but I’ve given up on any movies that have been out for more than two months. I’ve never had a single scratch on any disc I’ve owned, so I don’t know what people are doing; actively taking razor blades to the discs??
I work for a university library now, and the movies I’ve gotten from there or on loan from other universities have all turned out fine. If you live near one, it might be worth checking if they have any borrowing privileges for non-students; mine does.
I liked the semi batch model that was used for Arcane. To release 3 episodes at a time, gave me enough to watch to feel satisfied and also enough to convince my friends and discuss the show with them. It would maybe need more testing, but I agree that the binge system is dying.
Part of the reason that worked so well for Arcane was that each 3 episodes were a min arc.
THIS!
Haven’t watch Arcane but I’ve thought that model would work back when Netflix and Hulu were the only streaming services. Would be great to see it be tried out with more shows.
Agreed. Esp high budget shows like The Sandman and 1899 wouldve worked better on a 3 episode per week release to prolongue the buzz
@@54321jccgive it a watch! You don't need any info going into it
The one place where Netflix is still very strong is in their foreign-language imports. Even years before Squid Game was a big hit, Netflix maintained a pretty deep library from places like China, India and mainland Europe.
Not to mention Dark - which is one of the best sci fis of recent time
In Europe we got used to everything being American and now people are watching Spanish shows, German shows.... It's cool.
Netflix is pretty much a flop in India because of their original Indian content in general. They create extremely xenophobic content against Indians which is atrocious considering India is the only country in the world where the people have allowed so many other religions, languages and people to thrive and prosper.
Netflix also has the most alternative language friendly options; they have the most dubbing in multiple foreign languages than all other services, which really helped transition my parents away from a cable subscription.
Great anime catalog as well
This is a fun format, especially branching out into other topics.
Also, Netflixs best feature is that you can look at the season and episode lists while watching the show so you dont need to exit the show to navigate it
Dat feeling when a youtuber you watch shouts out another youtuber you watch. Arlo is pretty solid.
Yeah but solid snake
Could choosing between the binge model and weekly model ever be a creative decision? I occasionally watch binge model shows and think how it would’ve been better suited for the weekly model and vice versa.
I know right now it’s very much a business decision, though, but could you ever see a showrunner going one day, “I truly believe this specific season is fit for the binge model”?
And they oughta be able to switch it up if they want to! Maybe they do one season and realize they should have done it the other way, so they switch it for the next season. I absolutely think it should be a creative decision.
@@awesome3139 Arcane -last year- (2021) released in 3 acts one act each week. Feels like a creative decision because it gave time for people to talk about the show and speculate on the next act, helped foster community driven discussion and encouraged everyone to be more excited for the show when the next act dropped. I am doubtfull most shows that get released all at once are good for the binge model.
You know, you CAN just watch one or two episodes of a show a week yourself, you don't have to binge watch just because they're there.
@@01MrCapricorn A. You open yourself up to spoilers
B. The community isn't watching alongside you.
For me personally I think the sweet spot would be releasing two or three episodes at a time. Then with mini-series just release them all at once.
HBO Max becoming Max made sense. But making me download a new app when all it was was changing from purple to blue was stupid.
definitely need these hot take videos every month or so, this was extremely entertaining
CANNOT AGREE MORE WITH YOUR SEVERANCE TAKE. Super underrated and finally a true successor to lost, not just mystery for mystery sake. It's a cinematographic masterpiece of a story that is intriguing enough to deserve mystery surrounding it. Amazing premise
I like Netflix okay when it has shows I enjoy, but one thing that really grinds my gears is the fact that their algorithm works a little TOO well. I like a wide variety of shows and movies depending on my mood, but Netflix only suggests content that's similar to what I've recently watched. The end result is that I don't realize when other content is available until I get a newsletter from Netflix saying that it's leaving the platform. It's really annoying, because I would probably watch more on Netflix (which I imagine is what they want) if only I knew which content was there.
I think weekly model is supreme and this is evident by Disney+ going back to the model. Not only does it bring discussion back, but it also means that you can keep people subscribing for multiple months to keep watching the show week to week. I think in the end, we're going back to weekly stuff with a few rare exceptions.
You also have the added bonus of RUclipsrs doing reviews for each single episode, thus driving up interest
I can't believe Hulu isn't doing weekly with The Bear. HBO dominated the weekly prestige conversation for a year with HotD, White Lotus, Last of Us, and Succession, and finally slipped up with The Idol. Hulu has a show ready to go that's going to appeal to those same people and let them take the crown, and they're dropping it all as one as a binge instead!
I think it needs to merge the two. Like release 2 episodes a week cuz I don’t like waiting for one episode a week but the constant binging also drains some enjoyment
@@alarrim29574I agree. Because some episodes of the Bear link together better than others. Id prefer the writers not be boxed into pairing or isolating episodes. Unless that’s a fun way for them to approach the show. Why do parts have to be released on sets of two? I like what kaleidoscope did maybe shows can release sets of a story. Are seasons still relevant? We already have 8 episode that is a new occurrence.
@@samiehmed4919sometimes like the shorter seasons. Before when they did the 12-13 episode seasons, you knew that at least 2 or 3 episodes were filler and ruined the pacing of the show overall. This most services switched to a 10 episode season. If it's shorter than that, they're just making an extended movie with one over-all, plot. Most longer series had to slowly pad out a larger narrative in a bunch of b-plots or filler, now they can or should just jump right into the story they want to tell immediately.
I found it confusing when HBO s original competition was Cinemax, but they named their own streaming service Max
HBO has owned and run Cinemax for decades. They are the same thing (insert Jenna Fisher here)
@@mikegilgenbach4840 makes more sense now
A couple takes :
1. I actually use Hulu more than the other services. That will change come later this year as Disney+ get's Dr Who.
2. Netflix needs to fix a issue that bugs me - why do I have to turn my volume up to 75 just to barely hear the dialog in a show when I can keep it at 20 for everything else?
3. To all of the channels - we have these things call light bulbs. Learn to use them when filming.
@@180_S I have that problem streaming on my Smart TV, Xbox, Fire TV or casting from the tablet.
@@TimothyCollins audio mixing is based on the show, not the streaming service. i would suggesting getting surround sound 5.1 speakers or using subtitles if you're hard of hearing.
I got that same volume issue with hbo max instead of Netflix
I don't know why Netflix shows specifically are so horribly lit and mixed. I get that they're trying to make things sound better on high quality speakers, but they've done that to the point where dialogue will always sound horrendous on regular devices.
@@TheDaidai05 I go from watching something on Netflix and then bring up RUclips and get blasted back into my chair by the volume…
4:15 - I legit had no idea that "Peacock" referred to the NBC logo until you mentioned it here.
To be fair, I'm an Australian that can't access Peacock legit (even if I wanted to lol), but following the streaming "wars" it just never even occured to me!
A problem with netflix is releasing the entire season at once, people talk about the show for a week and then it dies. it makes it so much more difficult for a show to build an audience through word of mouth. Another problem is dragging stuff out, so many docs are way longer then they should be and are hurt really badly because of that. at the end of the day I still think netflix is still releasing the most good shows out of all of these platforms but it definitely is not as good as it once was and those good releases are becoming rarer. while everyone else seems to be improving.
Yeah, thanks to others streaming services that Netflix lost 200,000 costumes and doing a pour choice of canceling the share account idea. Thanks to greed for the streaming services of other so petty time soon Netflix, Disney, and other streaming channels will go to bankruptcy.
Netflix has the most popular shows. In 2022, stranger things, Dahmer and Wednesday were the most watched shows. This year Queen Charlotte, Fubar and Night Agent are huge so your wrong .
I’d love to hear more of your take on Ted Lasso. I find that the show is spilling over with heart, but I also always open to exploring the views of others, especially when they differ from my own
Since everyone else is covering their streaming service takes, I do want to give you feedback and say that this video was well made. I enjoy the idea of you engaging with your community in a way that lets them participate and feel as if they're part of the channel as well. So I do look forward to future videos in the same vein of community involvement.
I’ve been watching your content for a while, but finding out you’re a fellow Arlo watcher is what tipped me over the edge for a subscribe.
Seriously, tho, I really like your style of discussion on media, and while ranty videos about how Disney did another bad are very cathartic, I enjoy how level-headed you are and the way you look at every angle.
I’m actually shocked that studios are releasing their movies on VOD/streaming services so EARLY after their theatre run. Do they realise how us Gen Z can pirate the movies for free in HD ?!?!
Yesterday I watched the Mario Movie and Across the Spiderverse nack to back on Stremio. You bet I pirate everything I don't have access.
Right, like a friend of mine sent me a stream a few weeks after the Mario movie had just hit theaters. I saw that it was out on DvD last week, and I'm pretty sure that the movie only came out like a month or 2 ago. Pirates are really eating good today because of these streaming wars. I remember back in the day if you wanted to watch a bootleg, you had to deal with dogshit quality for like a year, maybe several until someone uploaded a halfway decent quality rip of a DvD that was a 360-480p .flv at best. Now, everything is leaked as a bluray quality, 4k .mp4 video within a month.... shit's wild.
You mean theyre releasing these movies earlier to dissuade people from pirating them? Sounds good
fr these videos are hilarious to me. i’ve never paid for a streaming service. so many good websites
We are back to the 2000s where we pirated everything. They really missed their chance to change the behavior of people.
Gotta say im liking these free form video styles and wouldnt mind seeing more!
Hot take: As much some people hate Netflix, they legit provide the best experience out of all streaming services. The UI, UX, compatibility with platforms, aesthetic of their apps, seamless payments, somewhat-uniform systems across countries, and even their huge catalogue are simply unmatched imo. I'm from India and Netflix has the absolute widest catalogue of Indian content (even original shows and movies).
Hulu is incredibly underrated to me. I feel like that streaming service has so much quality and unique content to me
Agreed, Hulu has A LOT of great shows on there. It's been one of my go-tos along with Max
Can you give examples, please? Just wondering
@@EziodaBsurM Literally all of FX, Some great anime series, a lot of movies like Palm Beach with Andy Samberg, The Truman Show (It’s on other stuff now tho thankfully), They had all of American Pie at one point, and they even had a lot of classic childhood shows like Chowder, Dragon Ball, Flapjack, and Transformers Prime however I will say now a lot more streaming services have this stuff so it doesn’t make a lot of this stuff unique anymore. Also I do recommend the movie Buffalo only cuz I enjoyed it
I'm glad to see I'm not the only Hulu lover here. I find myself using it more than Netflix now
I 100% prefer Hulu's library compared to other streaming services
The binge model sucks because you can never know where a fellow fan of something is in the show, released week to week is so much easier to discuss a show with other people which really helps the show grow.
Lets Hope Arcane keeps the week to week releases
Binge addicts will tell you otherwise
This is exactly how it is with my friends. When the Mandalorian is happening, we're all generally at the same spot (at worst one of us is an episode behind), and can discuss the show more freely. When Stranger Things drops, it's very hard to have a conversation about the show for at least a month, because not all of us can binge a show in one weekend, and usually by then we're already over it.
In discussing Apple+ you focused a lot on the shows, but it is also worth noting that while Netflix has been putting out movies with Oscar hopes for years, it was was Apple+ that had the first Best Picture winner from a primarily streaming studio.
Max, Hulu, and Apple TV are the definitive choices within our household. In regard to quality, the content produced by FX and HBO is unmatched. There are hundreds of amazing shows/miniseries on these platforms, so you’ll always have something intriguing to watch.
i will say that shudder is the one streaming service i have full on LOVED. i love horror and so it was really awesome getting to go thru old movies and compare those to more modern ones :) def recommend for anyone who really likes horror
I`ve heard the name but never checked it out. I`ll give it a try.
Shudder is the one I really want, but it’s not supported in Sweden :( (YET!)
iTunes is still surprisingly relevant for buying movies. It's got the best bitrate out of any non-enthusiast service plus the UI, extras support, catalogue, and pricing (at least if you wait for sales) are all pretty great. Personally though I find the best thing about it is that lots of physical media contains codes that let you view your movies digitally through iTunes.
I know I’m late to comment and watch this but please keep doing this. This was really interesting and refreshing to hear your comments off the till like this. You should make more about specific tv shows, franchises, or anything else in the entertainment industry.
A lot of digital storefronts support bonus features for movies, like Movies Anywhere and Vudu. It varies by studio, but the biggest movies of the last several years and older ones from big franchises have things like deleted scenes and commentaries.
i'm really torn on the topic of binge model vs weekly shows. Personally, I hate waiting a week or more to watch the next episode. It REALLY takes me out of the story. I love having an experience where I can watch a show in the span of a weekand be totally immersed in that world (I never binge in 1-2 days). But for a lot of shows (right now I'm into queer Asian dramas), it's amazing to be able to connect with others over discussing the events of each episode and that's really hard to do if someone people have already seen the whole thing and others are still catching up. It's nearly impossible.
I don’t understand why so much of the discussion about streaming services is about the originals. Yeah I watched Tulsa King, Grand Tour and some of the Star Wars shows when they came out, but other than that I prefer the back catalog.
The recent things I watched on Disney+ are Malcom in the Middle, the Simpsons, Thank You for Smoking, and Conquest of the Planet of the Apes. I recently watched Breaking Bad on Netflix.
I am impressed with Disney+ for having a large back catalogue of their movies, but I wish they made it easier to just look through some suggested movies
The streaming services should really be building for consistency and long term sustainablity. It's not enough to have a show or movie be a huge hit, it has to be able to maintain high viewership over time so they keep their subscribers around.
They need shows like The Office, Friends, Breaking Bad, Parks & Rec, etc. Shows that may not get massive numbers but the viewership is consistently high year after year.
They would also benefit from smaller shows like 30 Rock, The Good Place, Star Trek, etc. with loyal passionate audiences. But the problem is that it goes against corporate mindset. Companies want huge short term quarterly profits to impress their investors. And many of those types of shows provide steady long term returns and that's not enough for them.
100% spot on
This worked out really well! If you find a week where you need to make a video and you dont have the time or the will for one of your regular topics, do one of these again, they are fun!
I loved this, great community interaction! Would love more of these in addition to the normal Captain Midnight fare.
If you don't want to watch a show all in one sitting, you're able to watch it one episode per week.
But if it's released that way, then I CAN'T binge it.
Just mentioning a couple other underrated Appletv shows, The After Party and Slow Horses
Hot takes: Disney+ is basically as niche as Shudder but no one acknowledges it. Unless you have kids you’re only turning it on once a week to watch the new Star Wars or Marvel show.
Tubi and Pluto tv have great eclectic catalogues and I more hours of Tubi a week than all of my paid services combined.
Amazon is a 5 show service that does a better job selling other streamers than itself.
Streaming is the only industry where I miss the days when it was a monopoly. It’s like that meme about how capitalism breeds innovation and then it shows 30 crispy chicken sandwiches. It’s that but each sandwich restaurant isn’t allowed to use the same spices as another.
I like the free-form content! Would definitely be down for more stuff like this.
My dad taught me to always finish what I start, I wish Netflix had a dad like mine.
The United States was always more spoiled for choice when it came to streaming. Even the US Netflix still has more content than its overseas counterparts. Still, here in Australia there is a lot more content for a country of 25 million people because although we don't have HBO Max or Peacock, a lot of their content is located on local streamers Stan and Binge.
Of the major platforms & regardless of any issues with the platform itself:
Max contains the best catalogue of award winning films, both modern and classic.
Most other services feel far too bloated with pumping out modern popcorn - where you end up having to spend ages sorting through the junk to find anything good.
Netflix stopped making worthwhile TV when they went 100% into the data-driven stuff, making stuff that's tailored to garner as much watch time as possible as opposed to anything else. The problem is that truly great shows and movies challenge the viewer.
Loved this, hopefully there will be more with different topics !!
AppleTV is BY FAR my favorite. They put more care into their shows and original movies than any other platform I’ve seen. They seem really committed to telling the full story. Will that change? Maybe. But I’ve never been afraid to start a show on AppleTV.
And their production value seems a cut above the rest. I know many people aren’t fans of cinematography and set design as much as I am, but for me that’s a huge selling point. Details matter and AppleTV knows that.
Except when it comes to usability of its app. It’s one of the most frustrating apps to use and I often forgo a show I want to watch on AppleTV for something I’m not as interested in on Netflix just because I don’t have the time or patience to deal with AppleTV’s buggy platform.
In general it seems like Apple has learned the value of supporting a service with their other products. I mean just look at how long they've commited to Apple Maps.
But yeah, their tvOS UX is kind of trash in lots of their apps. It's a shame cause I love how crisp and good it looks when you aren't trying to interact with it. Plus tvOS apps like Infuse are an absolute dream to browse using their UI framework.
Ah, I still think my Peacock take of their comparatively impressive live sports options is where streaming will go. Even if Peacock isn't there by the end. Sports drives TV more than just about any other genre.
All my favorite shows are cancelled and I hate every streaming service 😭
If you went into Ted Lasso expecting a comedy I can see why you wouldn’t care for it. It’s much more focused on strong character moments over getting laughs. To me what makes it such a good show is how refreshingly wholesome it is in an era where so much of prestige TV is about gruesome subject matter and cynicism.
Omg totally agree with the thing about Netflix jumping to the next show/movie after you got done watching it. I remember watching Lord of the Rings on there, and I'd have to quickly press the "watch credits" thing. With the last movie, I fast forwarded back through the whole movie to see the credits bc a giant picture of some other movie showed up on the screen, then the time ran out 😭😭 why???
Im Actually buying more physical media when it comes to movies. A bunch of 4K movie releases are jam packed with bundles with regular blu-rays, dvds, Directors Cuts, and other features. Ive bought more UHD movies this year then blu-rays and DVDs in the past 12 years. The quality is awesome and for pictures like Star Trek: The Motion Picture (which I never found much to like) are a tottally new experience when you see the directors cut in remastered UHD. I really came to appreciate the model and matte work that went into that movie. Streaming still hasnt caught up in that regard.
Just wanted to say I enjoyed this experiment, hope you do more of this kind of video in the future!
The Arlo shout out! That's literally why i clicked the video, cause i thought it'd be like that. Awesome video!
My take is lukewarm at best: Pluto is the streaming service I use far more than any other.
It’s just the free version of paramount +
My only hot take is that Discovery+ is actually underrated - lots of nostalgic Animal Planet, Food Network, and Discovery shows for me. Plus good reality TV for my wife.
I live in Canada where D+ and Hulu are combined and it’s definitely the best service because of that
Completely Random Streaming Mild Takes:
-Any Streaming Service with unique profile pictures that feature a character >>>
-Max's mobile performance is a really good improvement compared to the original HBO Max app
-But Max is absolutely terrible to find something because the massive influx of Discovery+ shows. All my HBO Max discovery has been taken over by true crime and TLC, which is annoying.
-Disney Plus is still probably the best *value* in streaming in terms of a strong back catelog and regular releases
-Every mobile platform for Streaming Services needs to include picture in picture. If im watching something at work, and then need to reply to an email, i dont want to have to reload the episode/movie or find where i was when i am done. Just give me the option to let the episode play on in a small bubble on my phone/tablet
I didn't grow up on the binge model, but I loved it from my first time. I absorb the content better and have far more thoughts on what I'm watching when I can enjoy in fewer sittings. Anything i watch that's a weekly show, i have to come back and rewatch it in a binge later anyway
I'm not against the binge model, but it doesn't suit every show or type of storytelling. Some types of shows really do work better as weekly self contained stories. It also puts a lot of shows into a very strange spot of being, essentially, extremely long movies masquerading as TV shows, which really messes with the pacing.
I love how half of Paramount's library is just Taylor Sheridan shows 😆🙌
I really like this format. You give off some many ideas very fast and still manage to develop them
I don’t agree with all your takes, but that’s not rlly the point and the disagreement but still seeing where your coming from and even in some places convincing me makes this a really great video and I would love to see more
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i went with Paramount+ as an add on rather than getting a whole new website service outright. Rather stick with something familiar, as long as the library isn't restricted of some titles or leaving anything out.
I like this format I'd love another vid like this!
BROO I miss legit Behind The Scenes so much. I remember it being during the BlueRay era where it really felt like they were being edited down more, and the bloopers just turned into throwin funny music over shots of the actors making a face at the camera. It started to become less personal and less like it was actually trying to show you how the movie was made, which made the decked out "interactive" menu screens feel even more disappointing when they lead to next to nothing
I actually like the prime video model of just being able to purchase an episode or season as it allows me create my own unique playlist.
Not even a hot take but the Discovery merger was probably the worst thing that happened to Max. As someone who mainly used it for DC's back catalog I find it frustrating knowing that I have to be scared of seeing something I love and enjoy just vanish from the site, like what happened with Space Ghost: Coast to Coast
also I find it really frustrating that once the Crunchyroll license was given to Sony post-buyout they didn't do anything with giving the anime a separate hub, like a Toonami hub would be REALLY nice
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I think you're right with how the binge model can hurt shows that have a decent story and can probably generate a slow build and stuff week to week. I think we should definitely keep that week to week model. Also I think there are probably some shows that you could probably just dump out all at once that just plays better that way to get it all out there. Like some shows that work better as an extended movie fit that model. Maybe some comedy shows that aren't really all that great that you just want to get out there or something. I don't have an exact answer for which model works best for what show as a straight up formula. But I think Netflix should really figure that out to maybe try and give some other shows a chance and maybe work up to stuff below the level of Stranger Things to build up the chatter and talk and stuff. no idea what could possibly fit that model, just that they should experiment and figure it out somehow.
I honestly would've said HBO Max was the best streaming service. But ever since they switched over to Max I haven't been able to stream anything on it on my PS4. It's been like that since May 23rd and it's June 19th today when I post this. Kinda inexcusable that they haven't put out an update to get the app to work. I've even been in contact with them through their Twitter help page but even then I'm like talking to a brick wall. Just has been very annoying.
I kinda miss flow TV, where you could turn on the TV and watch whichever episode was on. Sometimes I just want to watch a show I like, without having to watch it from the beginning or having to pick the episode I want to watch. I would love a feature on streaming service where you can ask the platform to select a random episode of a show and then just run from there.
I think the binge model doesn’t allow as much of a community as the weekly release.
To what you said about Paramount+, I despise the Peacock PS4 app. It works fine if I stream a live event like WWE or the Premier League, but if I try to catalogue stuff, it’s a miserable experience. It feels like half time if I select something from the main page, the app will start the video, fail to load it, and then crash. Maybe it works better if you have the ad free version, but it’s certainly not earned the trust of more $ per month.
So glad you talked about Severance in this. Such a phenomenal first season. Really hope they can keep the story as interesting moving forward.
My problem with Netflix is they cancel shows just as they are finding their feet and finding out what they want to be. "Oh hey this show is getting really good.........oh they cancelled it!"
Its kind of a miracle Bojack made it as far as it did (at least it got to end properly!)
As for the binge model. I do that often with shows but studies have shown that when you binge a whole series you actually retain less of the plot than if you are watching a show on a weekly basis. I have noticed too that more recent streaming shows that drop weekly tend to get more buzz and I think its part the social aspect where you watch that weeks episode then chat about it with friends who like it too, going over what happened and speculating what might be next.
If I love a show or movie I am definitely buying it on physical media. I like being able to watch the things I love whenever I want without having to worry about a sub. I do worry that streaming and digital versions will entirely replace physical media, which I would hate. I love my DVDs and Blu Rays packed full of extras :P
Loved this on Arlo love it form you! Take's aren't hot enough gotta turn up the heat!
Removing HBO's name from HBO Max was a great idea. What's stupid was, that they settled on 'Max' as their name. They could've called it Warner Max or WB Max. But just 'Max' is stupid.
Oh wow I was not expecting to be the first tweet in the video lmao, I was already doubting if I'd even make it in. Wooo!
not generally a fan of the "hot take" videos but I do like how you haven't adopted a 'holier than thou' tone!
Love this type of video. Would love to see more
After watching all 3 seasons of Dickinson on Apple tv, I'm surprised I haven't heard anyone talking about it. I won't say it's the best tv show in streaming, or even on their service, but I loved it so much and it felt really unique and genuine.
Cool new format! Definitely looking forward to hearing your opinion on people's hot takes :) Especially when it comes to such specific subjects. Usually never comment on anything but love your channel!
Excluding RUclips and the Rifftrax app, I mainly stick to just Tubi and AppleTV, because I know I won't have to scroll so long before giving up and put a dvd on. I have Hulu as part of their deal with Spotify, and Prime, but I didn't sign up specifically for those services, they're just a nice bonus for me.
I grew up with having to wait week to week and tune in to the correct channel at the correct time with many commercials during it. I will forever love the binge model. If a show is being released week to week, I will wait until the show is fully released to watch it.
And I think the real winner in all this is Sony, just licensing everything out and not having to build a steaming service and infrastructure.
Thanks for all the great videos!
The streaming wars have done a great job of reducing the amount of tv and movies i watch.
I dont watch any of this crap now... i bought a bike and a kayak & thats what i do instead.
I honestly dont care what happens to baby yoda. I havent seen any of the shows you mention in this video, and i dont feel like im missing out at all.
I forget that Hulu exists routinely. When I do remember and pull it up, i always come across a lot of things I want to watch.
I enjoy Netflix but see what you mean about the binge watching. An example of cancelled shows before they finished is Mindhunter. High expenses were the reason why it got canceled so to fix it the overall problem I’d say Netflix should stop relying on big names like David Fincher to keep shows running. I believe the guy is truly passionate about film but Mindhunter was more than just himself.
14:52 Netflix, Disney+ and Prime allow you to disable the autoplay stuff. It's not a big deal... however, German streaming WOW does not only not allow you to turn it off, it also does not allow you to stop it from happening by picking up the controller, and it also will do this sometimes before the credits when important shit is still happening. It was awful watching Raised by Wolves (which was only there in Germany, since WOW has a HBOMax Licence) and bought the show on blue Ray because of it.
I definitely think more videos like this would be a good idea, personally I have loved hearing your counter points and or agreements with the community. Super fun video
It was hard to continue listening once you mentioned that you didn't care for Ted Lasso because that show is goated imo
Not surprised nobody "thought of the children" the way different streaming services handle parental controls and the distinct UI for minors is a big differentiator. For example: Netflix feels like the gold standard. Disney feels like an afterthought. Max is actively harmful, I don't let Mt kids use it
You really think Disney is gonna just roll Hulu into D+? I don’t know, I see Hulu as the Miramax or now Fox of the Disney brand. It allows them to release stuff other than the brand safe Disney stuff
Speaking of streaming services starting something at the credits, Hulu has been skipping the endings of tv shows like King of the hill and I need to click watch credits to finish an episode. Personally, I like watching the credits for a bit after a movie or show instead of another distraction thrown at me.
2:09 I am always fascinated using Paramount how bad the app is. I remember a few years back using CBS All Access and having it at least be functioning. No clue how they managed to make it so much worse when they renamed it.
Watching it through RUclips is so much better than the official app imho
Great video - like the concept ,please make this a regular feature maybe once a month or two months. is right timing wise
I'm 30, am well aware of the NBC peacock, and had never even BEGUN to make the connection between it and Peacock until this very moment.
Captain Midnight mentioning Arlo is the cross over that you just never see coming
I get what you mean about the binge model killing hype but if I'm invested that waiting period is murder on my psyche lol, that's why even though I love anime, I've been waiting for most of the major ones to wrap up or at least get close before i watch them, like aot, great animation, political intrigue, great fights, basically what made me love fma and got me into anime yet I'm still waiting because waiting 12 years for a 7 part season is unbearable. Also unrelated but yeah the Netflix ui is damn annoying, if I get up to do something while on the home page it just starts playing an episode, and even when browsing I usually mute my tv so it doesn't start playing audio for something I don't give a shit about
Really enjoyed the new format!
The difference between Apple TV and the rest is that even if they “fail” traditionally, they can indefinitely prop themselves up or simply become the “art house” of the streaming world. Because… Apple
For ME, netflix has the Crown, Cobra Kai, but those new seasons are so few and far apart it leaves me wondering why I dont start and stop my subscription.
Keep doing videos like these I love videos like this keep up the amazing work
I still don’t get why they always cancel good shows. Inside Job is a great example. It was popular, everyone seemed to enjoy it, but then Netflix cancelled it for the almost universally despised Bigmouth. What’s the deal?!
Inside job, Final space, 1899 (which was by the creators of dark), space force, etc..
It’s all numbers and completion rates - other RUclipsrs have explained why. I’m not saying it’s right but there is a logic to Netflix’s seeming madness.