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If you don’t mind me asking… at 19:54 yall started talking about the divorced family v traditional family and the upward v downward spiral between the two, but what I wanted to ask is what would you say about the divorced family but the parents are both married to different people, would that cause the upward or downward spiral, or is that a different situation completely.
@LetsGetRealSJ question what happen after death I heard from someone I think ex Mormon/ latter day saints that you guys beliefs in multiply realm of afterlife not just hevan and hell I heard place like purgatory and I heard that someone can still be preach gospel even after death give second change to go to hevan after death is these true?
Of your Bible or the one Jesus said to read and in exodus lev., and numbers were a bunch of people when there was war during Jesus time that work for Moses Saul and their sons ext. "Ask Jesus if you believe" Jesus left no ?'s they're all documented just like this scientific study he left all the facts there to be found
I took a class with Jenet Erikson at BYU and the thing I learned that has stuck with me for years is "children need to be known". We as parents need to deeply KNOW our children, their hearts, their desires, their talents, their joys and sorrows. I still think about that when parenting my kids.
Wow. I've never really thought about how important that might be. I certainly didn't have that as a child, but I hope I can have that with my children.
My mother was abused by my Father and left when I was 4. I was her first child. She never came back. I am 43 and over the last few years realized I have been looking for her in every moment of my life since she left. I was never driven by fame, money, approval, power, because I instinctually knew they wouldn't give me what I was after, her love. Just a testament to the power of a mother to their child.
Perhaps you'll find it in your wife one day. My husband seems to have found this missing relationship in me, growing more & more ever since he had a stroke and suffers dementia besides being paralyzed on one side as well.
I am the product of a divorce. I was only 2. Growing up, I saw other families intact and it didn't compute to my situation. Looking back I know why I never felt short changed. It's because I never was. My mom and my family were taken in by friends, neighbors, church members, and other family members. I feel like I had a thousand family members throughout my entire childhood. It was normal to me. Today, both of my children are adopted. I've never felt they were anyone else's kids but mi e and my wife's. Being sealed to them, they truly ARE my kids. Love is the glue which binds. It doesn't always need to be traditional but I see the benefit as a best case scenario. Today I know how to be a Dad thanks to my grandpa, uncles, neighbor, and a friend of my moms. God will provide if you let him. I need to add that I have been married to the one person I will never stray from. 36 years next month and going stronger every day. .
My parents divorced when I was 9 yo. My dad was narcissistic and having him leave felt like the right thing at the time, but I always felt like there was something missing. When we had home teachers over a few years later I was suddenly acutely aware that what I lacked was not just a father figure, But a priesthood holder in my life. My mom did an amazing job raising me by herself but I always felt like less of a person. I hid my trauma pretty well. I once had a friend from high school visit my house, and she turned to me as she went to leave, she said "I never would have guessed you came from a broken home". I know she meant it as a compliment. But yikes 😰
I think you hit on another aspect of family that’s been neglected. We need our extended family! It’s not just parents and kids on their own, to fend for themselves! 👏
That's the old saying "it takes a village to raise a child" irl! I come from a large family (not all blood relatives) and I've always had support and love but my husband really struggled with trusting my family and letting them love him bc his father physically and mentally abused his mother when he was small, then they divorced and both remarried when he was about 6 then he was abandoned by both his father and mother at 13 and was homeless for most of his teens. He was so mistrustful of anyone but me because he had been abandoned by everyone he ever trusted enough to give love to but I had always been there as a friend if he needed me. It took having our daughter for him to really open up because he had no idea how to be a father so he turned to my Dad for guidance and they really grew close and I honestly think it was almost harder for him to cope when we lost my Dad in 2021 because he was the father he never had as a child
We are in our 50th year of marriage. We raised 7 children. 5 served missions, but sadly, only 2 of them are actively living the way we taught them and showed them. Lucifer really wants to destroy families and testimonies. 😮 I was adopted as an infant. I never really felt whole until I found my birth parents. They eventually married when I was 7. I've completed their Temple work. It's been such a blessing to learn about them and appreciate their strong roots and Heritages. Life is hard, but we have a loving Father and His Son, the Savior Jesus Christ, to help us survive and even thrive while living on this Prison Planet.
I'm pregnant with baby #7 and i have struggles with my heart, but i definitely feel this baby in me help me. When my heart rate goes down, the baby will move more and get my heart rate up again.
This was an extraordinary interview . I'm almost 76 and male with 4 adult children and my wife passed away 6 years ago. Had a absolutely wonderful marriage met at 15 stayed married for 54 years. I have been thinking lately about my wife and her relationship to my children and why do women want to have children! I'm glad most do ! But I noticed their love for their mother was and still is different from me. Thanks Professor MUM !
I took a class with Jenet Erickson at BYU and it was the best class I’ve ever taken. Not only did I learn so much, but she knew each student by name and even asked me about my family and remembered personal details. She is such an incredible woman and I love what she has to share!
I found a brother. We were mature adults and had never met. We shared a father that he never knew. He was so much like our father and we repeatedly found common interests and attitudes. I only had him for two years, but I'm so glad I got to know him.
“And they would have had no children…having no joy, for they knew no misery; doing no good, for they knew no sin.” 2 Nephi 2:23. It’s been part of our religion since before the church was even organized.
@suzannnay.... Untrue. We don't need the bad experience to appreciate the good ones. We can learn to be thankful in the situation we are in. Like paul said.
There are so many single young adult men and women like you who longing for marriage and family yet can't seem to connect with each other. What is getting in the way?
Absolutely, right there with you, as are my sisters. I think it is one of the challenges of our day as marriage and family ideas are warped, because the enemy knows that is the foundation of our covenants, unity and connection to God and others. Dr. Erickson’s experience of marrying later gives me at lot of hope as well as staying close to the temple. ❤
I know there can be miracles and pray for an opportunity to come your way. I think Sister Nelson’s story gives so much hope. Good things come to those who wait.
@holysaintly123 Don't lose sight of what matters. Maintain your personal temple worthiness and don't settle just because you feel it is your duty. There are good men out there and may God bless you with one.
I listened and was struck with the observation that this discussion was an example of what a leader (I'm not sure who now) said that BYU community should master the language of Faith and Scholarship. The two were superbly interwoven.
Thank you for this much needed and timely discussion! Janet is my favorite! No one says it quite the way she does, in a matter of fact, yet sensitive way. It makes so much sense! She speaks with clarity and power because what she says is true.
Thanks for everything you do Stephen. Somehow managed to cry listening to the last 4 episodes I’ve heard from you. While cutting grass, while doing dishes. I can feel the love, the spirit, the truths conveyed. Thank you.
Not only would the whole earth be wasted at His coming; This Earth was created for us, begotten human beings of Heavenly Parents, so that we could walk this path that we are on, whatever that path may be. This was so goooodddd!!! Thankyou!
“Christ is the golden lacquer that leaves his grace into the broken parts of us!”😮 I’m more valuable after redemption than before. After our repentance comes true joy
I've often thought that a cracked pot can be in darkness and contribute nothing. But if the light of Christ is within, it is through the cracks that His light shines out to others. Our wounds can be our greatest testimony to God's mercy and love.
She became a nurse, but not the way she thought. Like some of the 12 Apostles of the original church, they thought they would have a temporal occupation but instead became spiritual fisher of men. She is now a spiritual nurse.
In nursing profession we've learned physiology and psychology, plus as being a member it will add on the spiritual aspect. But I think Jenet Ericson is being called to discover this knowledge and assigned to impart it to us all.
I was on a business trip and was asked by a single colleage in a joking/serious way to give him three reasons why I was married... in the short 30 minute car ride I really couldn't articulate what this converseation is masterfully laying out as why it's so important.
Too bad the UN does not still feel the same way about families now. Guest has a Beautiful spirit, truth and 💗. We have a blended family and I can attest to the difficulties of how much two people need to grow together and continue to work at their marriage and families to feel whole.
I loved this podcast so much. Stephen is not only a great host, but this lady is amazing with her understanding and information, testimony and connectivity. Thank you to you both. I’ve shared this with my adult children. 😊
Having strangers, teachers, family friends, and pastors be there for me has been the blessing in my life. I am who I am today because of the various people God allowed to speak over my life, help guide me, and support me!❤
I am the sixth child in a family of eleven kids. I have a sister and 4 brothers older and a sister and 4 brothers younger than me, so I am the middle child. I have been so BLESSED to have come from a large family and NEVER EVER wanted it any other way. My parents were married for 50 years and the LOVE they had for us kids was unconditional. FAMILY was the most important VALUE they shared and instilled in us. I miss you, mom and dad EVERY SINGLE DAY and we'll be together again in HEAVEN.
I’m glad for this interview. I always wanted to be a wife and mother but I felt the pressure, even within the Church, to be something more, as if being a wife and mommy just isn’t enough. However, I overcame that pressure. I am a wife. I am a mommy for 5 beautiful children. FAMILY is the most important thing. FAMILY is what it’s all about. FAMILY RELATIONSHIPS are the most important. So yeah, I’m glad I didn’t listen to the nay sayers.
You’re completely valid in feeling that having kids and being a homemaker is enough! For many women that is all they need. Other women though want to accomplish having a successful career and that might be enough alone to fulfill them. Others want a bit of both. All are fine imo, not everyone will be happy with the same things
I hear ya!! So glad you overcame those pressures. I love being a stay at home mom (as we used to be taught at church). Yes I do realize the world, the economy has changed and etc., but I have always wanted to be a wife and momma. Our family has been able, thus far, to keep on loving each other in this day and age of 'love waxing cold'. And yes our family has had, does have many problems. It seems for years now, that it is almost an lds 'norm' to be a professional woman plus a wife and a mother.....that would be too much for me and I do not feel a need yet to prove myself professionally; don't feel that 'calling'. It has been busy enough taking care of a large family.
I wish and always have wished to be a stay at home mom, but haven't had that luxury. Not every working mom chooses that because they want to be more than a mom. Some of us have to provide temporally by working. You are fortunate to have that choice.
The church doesn’t teach it anymore because the economic and social support net has changed. With divorce rates so high, a woman is taking a tremendous gamble by not also having a job. Not just any job but one that can support her and her children if she needs to do it alone. We also used to have better support through extended family as well. I used to be you. Totally content and even felt compelled to be a stay at home mom. But then very suddenly my marriage fell apart and I had no skills with which to support myself or my kids. My kids went from having two parents to no parent as I was absent during the day working a very minimal paying job and at night going to school. It was very rough for several years until I was able to get a job that covered all of our expenses. It is ideal if you can focus totally on the day-to-day needs of your children without being pulled into the workforce and away from them, but you need to be prepared in the event this happens to become your reality. Some women think they are covered because their husband has great life insurance, but life insurance doesn’t help in the event of divorce. Your insurance is your own skills and the help of the Lord. Thank him every day that you’ve been blessed so far to be able to enjoy the family life you’ve had.
Stephen and Jenet, you have no idea how much this conversation impacted and helped me. Thank you so much! I don’t know either of you, but I love you both!!!
This was an amazing podcast. I love how they unwrapped the gospel teachings in the practical relationships of family. No wonder why the Lord revealed the Proclamation on the Family. The Holy Spirit witnessed to me multiple times while I listened to this conversation.
You always have great episodes, Stephen, but this one is, without a doubt, the very BEST one! This is a message that needs to be spread everywhere. Thanks to both you and Jenet for this inspiring conversation! :)
My wife and I went to the temple this morning. Your discussion here has dramatically improved my temple experience--specifically accentuating what I was learning this morning in the endowment session I attended.❤
I am a former member and love the truth of families. I find it more important to keep to what we knew was right. LOVE people and give back. The temple was never anything I understood or enjoyed as it is so odd and never believed in it's purpose. I do think God loves us all.
What a gem! I've listened to this twice and I picked new stuff up both times. That's while I've been at work so I couldn't give it my full attention. I'm going to watch this again and give it my full attention. This showed up in my Google feed on a day when I was fasting for a specific reason, and I feel strongly that this was an answer to that fast. This is full to the brim with answers and hidden treasures. Thank you for producing and sharing this. Wow!
This interview is absolutely amazing. I have to say, as a young widow, but makes me feel confused in ways. I worry that my younger kids growing up without their dad will create trauma I cannot help. They are in a one parent home not by choice of anyone. I have so many worries! But I just have to put my trust in God. If we are supposed to have another man come into our lives, He will provide that path I suppose. I can’t even imagine it at all.
My dad died suddenly in 1980, when I was 2. My mom was alone to raise me. I never once missed having a father figure in my life. I always felt like he was with me. They loved each other and I always felt like he was looking down at me and providing a bubble of protection for me. I believe he still is. My mom found a man over 30+ years later. It was fine. All was fine.
Dad may have physically died, but he is still very much alive - just unseen. Be encouraged to keep him "visible" to your children by talking about him, almost as if he was there in the room with you physically. Lite moments can be enough to mention him. Eg. Having a bowl of ice cream: " OH, Dads favorite ice cream was maple swirel. He used to put gummy worms all over it and make funny faces at me to make me laugh." Or: When your big brother fell down off his bike and split his knee open your Dad was the best doctor in the world! He cleaned the wound with peroxide, and Billy screamed! Then he put some salve on it and a butterfly bandage to pull it together. You know, Billy doesn't even have a scar!"
@@donnahalsted7718 yes I do this instinctively. He has always been the biggest part of my life. And truly he still is in many ways. It would feel so weird to stop talking about him! ❤️ thank you for this!
My sister in law was divorced. Both she and her x husband remarried and had children with prior spouses. But they all put aside any differences for the sake of the children. Imagine Thanksgiving with the 4 parents and 16 -20 children. Too many couples try to force children to pick sides. Divorce isn't ideal but sometimes it is necessary just don't make kids pick dides.
Those who lose themselves will find themselves. Forget about yourself and get to work. That is what Gordon B. Hinckley's dad told him when things got hard on his mission. That was the work ethic back then and it is what brings us the greatest happiness.
This is exactly what I thought of as well. We *ought* to lose ourselves, willingly! And I loved that she made the distinction that those who CHOOSE to sacrifice and lose themselves are the ones who find themselves and find the greatest satisfaction and joy. It's kind of like the difference between choosing to be humble and being compelled to be humble. One of them brings greater joy and peace. I needed this reminder. 💗
I totally agree with you. In the Catholic religion before you can get married you have to have what they call "marriage classes." Those classes are NOTHING and really teach NOTHING compared to this video. If this was taught in school or taught as MARRIAGE CLASS the couples getting married would be so better prepared for what "MARRIAGE" SHOULD BE. Thank you for SHARING this video it was eye opening and INSPIRATIONAL to me even though I've been married for 37 years. I look at my children as GOD'S GREATEST GIFT to me ! HE gave me my children to LOVE, NURTURE, TEACH, HOLD, and RAISE to be the BEST HUMAN they can be.
As one now celebrating our 50th Anniversary of our Eternal Marriage, we are examples of this. Together we raised 10 smart, productive children who are all well employed, totally independent, happy, never been in jail, individuals. They have given us 30 talented grandchildren thus far. That doesn't mean none of them have had problems, some have been swayed and gone off the rails because of societal influence. Today a Seminary teacher rolled out the Church education plan for youth and I heard our whole lives explained, including the Joy that is now in our hearts. All who know our children are amazed once they learn of the love all our kids have for one another which includes those currently not in the Church. They are taking charge totally of the planning for our celebration party. We are 6th generation members with almost no divorce in our history. Praise be to the Teachings of the Lord in our lives!!! :)
It's interesting the new symbol of the Church resembles a Ketubah, which documents the Hebrew marriage covenant. It also resembles a Chuppah, which is the Hebrew wedding canopy. Christ stands in the Chuppah as the Bridegroom inviting all to come as Brides to be bound to God's eternal family through making Sacred covenants, and allowing Him to heal us, and guide us home. The sealing power is actually two fold, to bind us individually to God's family through temple covenants, and also to bind us together in our marriage covenant and partake in all the blessings available to us as we strive to become fully united in heart, mind, body and spirit as a couple.
@@natetuft3245 There's an interview on the Stick of Joseph YT channel titled "The Hidden Hebrew Wedding Ritual and The Temple". It's an extremely captivating presentation revealing Hebrew wedding symbolism in our temple experience and so much of everything we do in the church. I highly recommend it to find greater meaning in our earthly journey as we give ourselves to Christ, the bridegroom.
@@natetuft3245 I learned that from an interview with a wonderful sister Andrea Woodmansee on The Stick of Joseph YT channel titled "The Hidden Hebrew Wedding Ritual and The Temple" It's an extremely captivating interview that opened my eyes to so much Hebrew wedding symbolism inherent in our temple experience and so much of everything we do in the church. I highly recommend it for a deeper understanding of how God leads us home through Christ, the bridegroom.
@@lisajones1438 Ahh, yes, it could be that as well. I don't recall them announcing such specifics when the symbol was introduced, but they very well could have. Thanks for pointing that out. As is often the case with symbolism, they can often have more than one meaning. I modified my OP to say it resembles a Chuppah instead of saying it definitely is one to leave room for both interpretations.
Amazing interviewer and amazing guest . She is wonderful ,the type of person i wish i could talk to. Thank you for spreading the truth with love in a world where sarcasm and cynicism became the common attitude.
He doesn't really interview. He just responds in agreement or with surprise to what he's learning. Sometimes he makes observations, but he almost never asks questions. A good interviewer asks questions to draw out information that will most help the audience learn.
@@Brisco-rl8nc how did you become the word police? Great interviewers listen and let the guest speak. It’s not about the host . You only think you know what a great interviewer does. I forgive your ignorance and I stand by what I said. I like his interviewing style. Maybe not interviewing like you would is the key to successful interviewing.
Fantastic as always Stephen. Thank you for finding and bring such important voices such as Jenet's to the forefront and letting them teach us what is REAL!
👋 this program is so beautiful and educational to watch and learn about family’s relationships with Heavenly Father . And temple ‘s attendance, I am loving it 🥰. Thank you so much. I am trying to share with as many people as I can.
Being with 2 parents who were both toxic and emotionally unavailable is as bad if not worse than divorce. I believe what she is saying only if both parents are emotionally available. I love this woman‘s message . It is profound. If only all parents had this as their goal with their children. Our world would be totally different and for the better.
I think the most devastating legacy of the institution of slavery was the generations of disregard for and insults to the bonds of family and I think we’re seeing its effects and feeling its impact still today. Whole lotta healing still to be done everywhere. 🙏🌏🙏
It was horrible at the time. But after slavery ended the family was intact in the nineteen sixties. It was after that that the family was attacked and crumbled.
@@JaneHallstrom1it's true that black families were strong and faithful for many decades. What happened was we started paying women in certain cities/states to NOT get married. We started paying them to have babies, but make sure the father does not move in or stick around. We started monetarily incentivizing every bad behavior that destroys the family. That is what happened. Our government did this.
@@natandjoecsounds like you have read or listened to Dr Thomas Sowell. He has written many books talking about this very subject as well as many others.
so many things in this discussion i realized i had discovered over the last 25 years!! thank you both for putting it into words. i was trying to think about how i discovered them. i started with wanting to be a parent and realizing that i was imperfect. i came up with a saying " i have screwed you up the best way i know how" my kids love it that we are not expecting perfection the way the world wants it or othesr want it. but doing your best in the moment and taking the next step the best way we can with faith in Christ. THAT is what lead me to these pieces of light! what a sweet discussion!
My first time hearing of Jenet. What strikes me is the real connection she helps us see/understand we have with not just our direct families but our ancestors all the way back as well. All are a part of us (in us & us in them). Not sure I ever really thought through that fact before. Research has said a family unit is important. However, Jenet's presentation on this subject & the depth of her understanding, plus putting it all together in a way we can understand on a personal & spiritual level is truly a gift from the Lord. This makes me want to reenergize my interest in & work on my own genealogy.
Thank you for this interview. I was married for 34 years, with a temple wedding. My husband betrayed our family, in so many ways. He passed away many years ago. I tried dating sites, even lds ones, and it all seems to be hook ups, sadly. I care for my adult son, who has mental illness. Many sisters in church have not been kind. I considered not going anymore. I carry enough weight already, to have extra stress, and lack of acceptance from ward members.
I am now in my 50's, LDS, and single. I never thought that I'd be single so long, and dated a lot in my young adulthood. I've never yet been able to overcome or met a man who could overcome the red-alert, panic button when things started getting serious. The older I get, the scarier pairing up becomes. My faith in my ability to do it is minimal at this point.
Have you ever sat down with a therapist or councilor before? My wife actually saw one because she has a similar trigger and the therapist was able to help rewire her brain so the triggers weren't so crippling.
This segment touched me so much… I didn’t have the words to express our purpose on earth. This dialogue is perfect and expresses how I feel and believe to a tee
I'm the one that does the tickling, rough housing. I play the bull, monster, T-Rex and my children love it! Then we switch to dirt bikes, and cycling as they get older.
This is another comment Im sharing and in some ways repeating some things. This is what I call deeply connected in ways not previously understood, to our Father and Mother in Heaven, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. I love my children soo much. I just did hear what I've needed to hear all my life, it opens so much. It was explained in a way that I needed to know. I feel it really deep. Thank you both sooo much. I hope this goes to every person everywhere and available for as long as its needed.
Why are there so many young adult men and women who would love to be married and have families but just can't seem to connect even though they're trying?
Wish I knew a single answer to that question. Single 41 yo female here, and I can't find anyone inside or outside the LDS faith who actually lives the values that they say they do - or the values that are taught. I find more men than naught who are narcissistic in their behavior in highly offensive ways or who are so focused on the intimate parts of a relationship (negatively affected by porn). I keep trying, despite. Satan, being the God of this world, is really good at what He does.
Our sad culture....we didn't realize we were destroying marriage and family, bit by bit. So those who want it struggle to find others with the same desire.
@friendsinthefold I think you are correct. There are two ways to look at it. Either it is an eternal practice like polygamy or it's not. That polygamy part was kinda funny but it is weird how some of us in leadership of the church believe polygamy a true principle and other believers don't accept it. It's also interesting how those that have seen how hard it is to be committed into something that is just not there and maybe never was might have an issue with being in a "marriage " situation. I think committed relationships are healthy and good and so are some marriages. I found that marriage is good and acceptable when wanting a family, then when you go through that struggle of rearing a family and interpretation of that nucleus changes, people have a hard time adjusting and finding that joy. Marriage without children in the picture is senseless. Be committed, be responsible, but the pressure of marriage is something people don't gravitate to these days.
I love listening to this podcast! This discussion just felt so yummy to my soul! My spirit recognized the truth of the words that were spoken. Thank you for sharing this wonderful conversation.
I'm soo happy that this study validates my emotional truth that this is Christ's church. I'm positive President Russell M. Nelson is a prophet. This study proves it. How could he have known on his own to guide us this way?
This was amazing. Thank you for your inspiration and insight. I loved how you guys fed off each other. Perfect example of active communication and listening.
So Good! Thank you for this amazing episode. As a married father with 3 kids I can tell you that what she said was 100% true. Some of the stuff she said in this blew my mind about the bond between the mother and her children. Awesome.
Thank you so much for this interview. I'm 65 years old and was the oldest daughter of a couple that married in their teens for all the wrong reasons. My parents divorced when I was 9 and a half the first time, they remarried just before my 10th birthday, then separated and divorced again by the time I was 10 and a half. Both divorces were so ugly and got worse. In total my mom had three husbands the first two were mean abusive bullies. Having them out of our lives became a blessing. My mom's third husband was a blessing from a loving Father In Heaven that was sent to our family when I was 16. Up until my dad showed up I had spent my childhood trying to protect my younger sisters and my mom from the bullying and abuse whenever and however I could. I wanted to marry and try to create a marriage and family in the way I knew a family is meant to be, but I was never blessed to find anyone that I could connect with and enter into a marriage relationship. It was so discouraging to try over and over again to put myself in a position to meet someone and to have it fail and feel it is not right at this time. So far it still hasn't happened for me. That hurts and I wonder why but I know that my Father in Heaven loves me very much and also my elder brother the Lord cares deeply about me and my happiness. I believe there are good reasons why I have been waiting so long and in the mean time I need the closeness with Father and my elder brother.
This is just what I needed to hear today🥹 I sent it to family members. Incredible! Thank you so very much for this informative interview on the family the science behind it and the data that tells us that we are in trouble if we continue on this path our world is on. Love this so much!
Thank you so much for these podcasts, they are always so filled with spiritual insights. I love your interview techniques you listen to your guest instead of always interrupting, which allows them to complete their information & creates an environment of learning for all of us. This guest was so interesting, intelligent, knowledgeable & spiritual. I enjoyed her very much.
I am delighted You Tube served me this video today. Jenet ❤, haven’t seen your face in so long, but it’s great to hear your voice and learn what you’ve been learning and studying. ❤ thanks!🙏
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@@josephscott6286 Jenet Erickson
If you don’t mind me asking… at 19:54 yall started talking about the divorced family v traditional family and the upward v downward spiral between the two, but what I wanted to ask is what would you say about the divorced family but the parents are both married to different people, would that cause the upward or downward spiral, or is that a different situation completely.
@LetsGetRealSJ question what happen after death I heard from someone I think ex Mormon/ latter day saints that you guys beliefs in multiply realm of afterlife not just hevan and hell I heard place like purgatory and I heard that someone can still be preach gospel even after death give second change to go to hevan after death is these true?
Of your Bible or the one Jesus said to read and in exodus lev., and numbers were a bunch of people when there was war during Jesus time that work for Moses Saul and their sons ext. "Ask Jesus if you believe" Jesus left no ?'s they're all documented just like this scientific study he left all the facts there to be found
I took a class with Jenet Erikson at BYU and the thing I learned that has stuck with me for years is "children need to be known". We as parents need to deeply KNOW our children, their hearts, their desires, their talents, their joys and sorrows. I still think about that when parenting my kids.
I thought I knew my children....then I homeschooled and I saw deeper layers of who they are...I REALLY came to love who they are in a deeper way.
I agree with this. My parents did not know me (nor really care to), and it has caused some damage which I've had to work hard at to overcome.
Wow. I've never really thought about how important that might be. I certainly didn't have that as a child, but I hope I can have that with my children.
Yes, thank you for the reminder. This is so very important! 🙏
The best thing we can do is get to know our children and not tell them who to be❤.
My mother was abused by my Father and left when I was 4. I was her first child. She never came back. I am 43 and over the last few years realized I have been looking for her in every moment of my life since she left. I was never driven by fame, money, approval, power, because I instinctually knew they wouldn't give me what I was after, her love. Just a testament to the power of a mother to their child.
Perhaps you'll find it in your wife one day.
My husband seems to have found this missing relationship in me, growing more & more ever since he had a stroke and suffers dementia besides being paralyzed on one side as well.
I am the product of a divorce. I was only 2. Growing up, I saw other families intact and it didn't compute to my situation. Looking back I know why I never felt short changed. It's because I never was. My mom and my family were taken in by friends, neighbors, church members, and other family members. I feel like I had a thousand family members throughout my entire childhood. It was normal to me. Today, both of my children are adopted. I've never felt they were anyone else's kids but mi e and my wife's. Being sealed to them, they truly ARE my kids. Love is the glue which binds. It doesn't always need to be traditional but I see the benefit as a best case scenario. Today I know how to be a Dad thanks to my grandpa, uncles, neighbor, and a friend of my moms. God will provide if you let him. I need to add that I have been married to the one person I will never stray from. 36 years next month and going stronger every day. .
Thank you for sharing your experience and wisdom
My parents divorced when I was 9 yo. My dad was narcissistic and having him leave felt like the right thing at the time, but I always felt like there was something missing. When we had home teachers over a few years later I was suddenly acutely aware that what I lacked was not just a father figure, But a priesthood holder in my life. My mom did an amazing job raising me by herself but I always felt like less of a person.
I hid my trauma pretty well. I once had a friend from high school visit my house, and she turned to me as she went to leave, she said "I never would have guessed you came from a broken home". I know she meant it as a compliment. But yikes 😰
I think you hit on another aspect of family that’s been neglected. We need our extended family! It’s not just parents and kids on their own, to fend for themselves! 👏
That's the old saying "it takes a village to raise a child" irl! I come from a large family (not all blood relatives) and I've always had support and love but my husband really struggled with trusting my family and letting them love him bc his father physically and mentally abused his mother when he was small, then they divorced and both remarried when he was about 6 then he was abandoned by both his father and mother at 13 and was homeless for most of his teens. He was so mistrustful of anyone but me because he had been abandoned by everyone he ever trusted enough to give love to but I had always been there as a friend if he needed me. It took having our daughter for him to really open up because he had no idea how to be a father so he turned to my Dad for guidance and they really grew close and I honestly think it was almost harder for him to cope when we lost my Dad in 2021 because he was the father he never had as a child
We are in our 50th year of marriage. We raised 7 children. 5 served missions, but sadly, only 2 of them are actively living the way we taught them and showed them. Lucifer really wants to destroy families and testimonies. 😮 I was adopted as an infant. I never really felt whole until I found my birth parents. They eventually married when I was 7. I've completed their Temple work. It's been such a blessing to learn about them and appreciate their strong roots and Heritages. Life is hard, but we have a loving Father and His Son, the Savior Jesus Christ, to help us survive and even thrive while living on this Prison Planet.
I'm pregnant with baby #7 and i have struggles with my heart, but i definitely feel this baby in me help me. When my heart rate goes down, the baby will move more and get my heart rate up again.
Bless you!
I love that! That’s so beautiful. 😊
That is so totally AWESOME!!! Thank you so much and God bless and be with you and your precious family for sharing this most beautiful message!!!🥰😍
That's amazing!!!!!
This interview is powerful. I am learning so much about my identity and my relationships with my family and Heavenly Parents!
This was an extraordinary interview . I'm almost 76 and male with 4 adult children and my wife passed away 6 years ago. Had a absolutely wonderful marriage met at 15 stayed married for 54 years. I have been thinking lately about my wife and her relationship to my children and why do women want to have children! I'm glad most do ! But I noticed their love for their mother was and still is different from me. Thanks Professor MUM !
Blessings to you!
What a powerful statement about marriage.
We are going on our 23rd year. It is such a beautiful thing to have an amazing family and partner!
I took a class with Jenet Erickson at BYU and it was the best class I’ve ever taken. Not only did I learn so much, but she knew each student by name and even asked me about my family and remembered personal details. She is such an incredible woman and I love what she has to share!
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I found a brother. We were mature adults and had never met. We shared a father that he never knew. He was so much like our father and we repeatedly found common interests and attitudes. I only had him for two years, but I'm so glad I got to know him.
If we never experienced the pain of family brokenness, we would never understand the miracle of family bonding.
I 💯 agree. Your comment is definitely underrated ❤
“Only the wounded physician can heal” - Carl Jung
“And they would have had no children…having no joy, for they knew no misery; doing no good, for they knew no sin.” 2 Nephi 2:23. It’s been part of our religion since before the church was even organized.
@suzannnay....
Untrue. We don't need the bad experience to appreciate the good ones.
We can learn to be thankful in the situation we are in. Like paul said.
As a single adult, I find joy and meaning in being a teacher, but I long for a family of my own!!
There are so many single young adult men and women like you who longing for marriage and family yet can't seem to connect with each other. What is getting in the way?
Absolutely, right there with you, as are my sisters. I think it is one of the challenges of our day as marriage and family ideas are warped, because the enemy knows that is the foundation of our covenants, unity and connection to God and others. Dr. Erickson’s experience of marrying later gives me at lot of hope as well as staying close to the temple. ❤
I know there can be miracles and pray for an opportunity to come your way. I think Sister Nelson’s story gives so much hope. Good things come to those who wait.
@holysaintly123
Don't lose sight of what matters. Maintain your personal temple worthiness and don't settle just because you feel it is your duty. There are good men out there and may God bless you with one.
@@StandforTruth712no one is looking for potential, they are looking for perfection. It’s the Disney complex.
This lovely woman speaks so passionately. It is almost as if she's teary throughout the presentation. I can hear it in her voice.
And as a child of divorce, it’s so absolutely heartbreaking. It was hard but I knew I had to break the chain of divorce.
Listening to her is always so powerful. She has a way of explaining these biological and spiritual truths in such a tender manner that make sense.
"Fathers matter a lot! BOOM!!! So so true. My dad was always my rock 😊
Great discussion! The reality of the benefits of marriage to NOT just children, but also spouses has been diminished and mocked for far too long.
It is Brave these days to stand for family and having children.
Absolutely
I listened and was struck with the observation that this discussion was an example of what a leader (I'm not sure who now) said that BYU community should master the language of Faith and Scholarship. The two were superbly interwoven.
This interview needs to be broadcast in General Conference!
I would love to see it during the 2 hour sessions.
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Thank you for this much needed and timely discussion! Janet is my favorite! No one says it quite the way she does, in a matter of fact, yet sensitive way. It makes so much sense! She speaks with clarity and power because what she says is true.
Thanks for everything you do Stephen. Somehow managed to cry listening to the last 4 episodes I’ve heard from you. While cutting grass, while doing dishes. I can feel the love, the spirit, the truths conveyed. Thank you.
Wow, such a powerful, inspiring discussion. I feel like my eyes have been opened, and I feel rejuvenated in my role as a mother. Thank you! ❤
Not only would the whole earth be wasted at His coming; This Earth was created for us, begotten human beings of Heavenly Parents, so that we could walk this path that we are on, whatever that path may be. This was so goooodddd!!! Thankyou!
This was just the most incredible discussion. I wish I had heard it 30 years ago. I want my whole family to listen.
She has always been such a kind caring person. We were in the same YSA ward, and even then, she was an inspiration.
“Christ is the golden lacquer that leaves his grace into the broken parts of us!”😮
I’m more valuable after redemption than before. After our repentance comes true joy
I've often thought that a cracked pot can be in darkness and contribute nothing. But if the light of Christ is within, it is through the cracks that His light shines out to others. Our wounds can be our greatest testimony to God's mercy and love.
I'm not LDS, but we share many values... those values that we ABSOLUTELY MUST regain. ❤
I totally agree that we need good family relationships to thrive. Awesome discussion, thanks.
You are so welcome!
She became a nurse, but not the way she thought. Like some of the 12 Apostles of the original church, they thought they would have a temporal occupation but instead became spiritual fisher of men. She is now a spiritual nurse.
In nursing profession we've learned physiology and psychology, plus as being a member it will add on the spiritual aspect. But I think Jenet Ericson is being called to discover this knowledge and assigned to impart it to us all.
I was on a business trip and was asked by a single colleage in a joking/serious way to give him three reasons why I was married... in the short 30 minute car ride I really couldn't articulate what this converseation is masterfully laying out as why it's so important.
This episode is phenomenal
This sister’s gift is so strong I’m pretty sure I have a cold now because I repeatedly wept tears of joy just listening to her prophesy
Same with my husband and I. Tissues at the ready.
Too bad the UN does not still feel the same way about families now. Guest has a Beautiful spirit, truth and 💗. We have a blended family and I can attest to the difficulties of how much two people need to grow together and continue to work at their marriage and families to feel whole.
The US is the same way. The thought of having children is so scary and expensive.
You are so right. Now, they want families BROKEN. THEY WANT THE FATHER ABSENT FROM THE HOME.
I loved this podcast so much. Stephen is not only a great host, but this lady is amazing with her understanding and information, testimony and connectivity. Thank you to you both. I’ve shared this with my adult children. 😊
Having strangers, teachers, family friends, and pastors be there for me has been the blessing in my life. I am who I am today because of the various people God allowed to speak over my life, help guide me, and support me!❤
I am the sixth child in a family of eleven kids. I have a sister and 4 brothers older and a sister and 4 brothers younger than me, so I am the middle child. I have been so BLESSED to have come from a large family and NEVER EVER wanted it any other way. My parents were married for 50 years and the LOVE they had for us kids was unconditional. FAMILY was the most important VALUE they shared and instilled in us. I miss you, mom and dad EVERY SINGLE DAY and we'll be together again in HEAVEN.
I’m glad for this interview. I always wanted to be a wife and mother but I felt the pressure, even within the Church, to be something more, as if being a wife and mommy just isn’t enough. However, I overcame that pressure. I am a wife. I am a mommy for 5 beautiful children. FAMILY is the most important thing. FAMILY is what it’s all about. FAMILY RELATIONSHIPS are the most important. So yeah, I’m glad I didn’t listen to the nay sayers.
You’re completely valid in feeling that having kids and being a homemaker is enough! For many women that is all they need.
Other women though want to accomplish having a successful career and that might be enough alone to fulfill them. Others want a bit of both. All are fine imo, not everyone will be happy with the same things
I hear ya!! So glad you overcame those pressures. I love being a stay at home mom (as we used to be taught at church). Yes I do realize the world, the economy has changed and etc., but I have always wanted to be a wife and momma. Our family has been able, thus far, to keep on loving each other in this day and age of 'love waxing cold'. And yes our family has had, does have many problems. It seems for years now, that it is almost an lds 'norm' to be a professional woman plus a wife and a mother.....that would be too much for me and I do not feel a need yet to prove myself professionally; don't feel that 'calling'. It has been busy enough taking care of a large family.
I wish and always have wished to be a stay at home mom, but haven't had that luxury. Not every working mom chooses that because they want to be more than a mom. Some of us have to provide temporally by working. You are fortunate to have that choice.
The church doesn’t teach it anymore because the economic and social support net has changed. With divorce rates so high, a woman is taking a tremendous gamble by not also having a job. Not just any job but one that can support her and her children if she needs to do it alone. We also used to have better support through extended family as well. I used to be you. Totally content and even felt compelled to be a stay at home mom. But then very suddenly my marriage fell apart and I had no skills with which to support myself or my kids. My kids went from having two parents to no parent as I was absent during the day working a very minimal paying job and at night going to school. It was very rough for several years until I was able to get a job that covered all of our expenses. It is ideal if you can focus totally on the day-to-day needs of your children without being pulled into the workforce and away from them, but you need to be prepared in the event this happens to become your reality. Some women think they are covered because their husband has great life insurance, but life insurance doesn’t help in the event of divorce. Your insurance is your own skills and the help of the Lord.
Thank him every day that you’ve been blessed so far to be able to enjoy the family life you’ve had.
@@cherylb5953❤ Very very true.
Stephen and Jenet, you have no idea how much this conversation impacted and helped me. Thank you so much! I don’t know either of you, but I love you both!!!
This was an amazing podcast. I love how they unwrapped the gospel teachings in the practical relationships of family. No wonder why the Lord revealed the Proclamation on the Family. The Holy Spirit witnessed to me multiple times while I listened to this conversation.
Me too. We all belong to an ideal family!
She was my professor at BYU, She's amazing!
There is an ideal but part of the ideal includes the redeemer.
That hit hard.
I think this talk this conversation has changed my life forever ! Thank you. ❤️🔥
You always have great episodes, Stephen, but this one is, without a doubt, the very BEST one! This is a message that needs to be spread everywhere. Thanks to both you and Jenet for this inspiring conversation! :)
I agree. My favorite episode.
My wife and I went to the temple this morning. Your discussion here has dramatically improved my temple experience--specifically accentuating what I was learning this morning in the endowment session I attended.❤
I am a former member and love the truth of families. I find it more important to keep to what we knew was right. LOVE people and give back. The temple was never anything I understood or enjoyed as it is so odd and never believed in it's purpose. I do think God loves us all.
Temple's on the earth is ancient which is proof of Gods love for everyone! He always wants to be with us its His holy house! @@jake8882
@jenalynhancock3874 the crazy part is you have an entrance fee. Nuts absolutely nuts.
One of the best discussions I’ve heard! Thank you both!
What a gem! I've listened to this twice and I picked new stuff up both times. That's while I've been at work so I couldn't give it my full attention.
I'm going to watch this again and give it my full attention. This showed up in my Google feed on a day when I was fasting for a specific reason, and I feel strongly that this was an answer to that fast.
This is full to the brim with answers and hidden treasures.
Thank you for producing and sharing this.
Wow!
I’m so so grateful to hear these truths spoken by a person with a lot of knowledge and understanding about the issues we are facing today.
I was her student at BYU. She is amazing
This interview is absolutely amazing. I have to say, as a young widow, but makes me feel confused in ways. I worry that my younger kids growing up without their dad will create trauma I cannot help. They are in a one parent home not by choice of anyone. I have so many worries! But I just have to put my trust in God. If we are supposed to have another man come into our lives, He will provide that path I suppose. I can’t even imagine it at all.
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My dad died suddenly in 1980, when I was 2. My mom was alone to raise me. I never once missed having a father figure in my life. I always felt like he was with me. They loved each other and I always felt like he was looking down at me and providing a bubble of protection for me. I believe he still is. My mom found a man over 30+ years later. It was fine. All was fine.
God will provide through every circumstance. Put your faith complety in Him, so you can experience His peace.
May God bless you abundantly!
Dad may have physically died, but he is still very much alive - just unseen. Be encouraged to keep him "visible" to your children by talking about him, almost as if he was there in the room with you physically. Lite moments can be enough to mention him.
Eg. Having a bowl of ice cream:
" OH, Dads favorite ice cream was maple swirel. He used to put gummy worms all over it and make funny faces at me to make me laugh."
Or:
When your big brother fell down off his bike and split his knee open your Dad was the best doctor in the world! He cleaned the wound with peroxide, and Billy screamed! Then he put some salve on it and a butterfly bandage to pull it together. You know, Billy doesn't even have a scar!"
@@donnahalsted7718 yes I do this instinctively. He has always been the biggest part of my life. And truly he still is in many ways. It would feel so weird to stop talking about him! ❤️ thank you for this!
My sister in law was divorced. Both she and her x husband remarried and had children with prior spouses. But they all put aside any differences for the sake of the children. Imagine Thanksgiving with the 4 parents and 16 -20 children. Too many couples try to force children to pick sides. Divorce isn't ideal but sometimes it is necessary just don't make kids pick dides.
This episode is amazing! It truly deepens my testimony of the truthfulness of this church. Amazing!
Those who lose themselves will find themselves. Forget about yourself and get to work. That is what Gordon B. Hinckley's dad told him when things got hard on his mission. That was the work ethic back then and it is what brings us the greatest happiness.
This is exactly what I thought of as well. We *ought* to lose ourselves, willingly! And I loved that she made the distinction that those who CHOOSE to sacrifice and lose themselves are the ones who find themselves and find the greatest satisfaction and joy. It's kind of like the difference between choosing to be humble and being compelled to be humble. One of them brings greater joy and peace. I needed this reminder. 💗
This channel is fantastic, I think it outputs the best church related online. Thank you for the consistently uplifting and entertaining media.
I totally agree with you. In the Catholic religion before you can get married you have to have what they call "marriage classes." Those classes are NOTHING and really teach NOTHING compared to this video. If this was taught in school or taught as MARRIAGE CLASS the couples getting married would be so better prepared for what "MARRIAGE" SHOULD BE.
Thank you for SHARING this video it was eye opening and INSPIRATIONAL to me even though I've been married for 37 years.
I look at my children as GOD'S GREATEST GIFT to me ! HE gave me my children to LOVE, NURTURE, TEACH, HOLD, and RAISE to be the BEST HUMAN they can be.
Wow! Amazing, Spirit filled interview and research that just... rings... true! Thank you! This helped me understand myself so much better.
Glad it was helpful!
As one now celebrating our 50th Anniversary of our Eternal Marriage, we are examples of this. Together we raised 10 smart, productive children who are all well employed, totally independent, happy, never been in jail, individuals. They have given us 30 talented grandchildren thus far. That doesn't mean none of them have had problems, some have been swayed and gone off the rails because of societal influence. Today a Seminary teacher rolled out the Church education plan for youth and I heard our whole lives explained, including the Joy that is now in our hearts. All who know our children are amazed once they learn of the love all our kids have for one another which includes those currently not in the Church. They are taking charge totally of the planning for our celebration party. We are 6th generation members with almost no divorce in our history. Praise be to the Teachings of the Lord in our lives!!! :)
It's interesting the new symbol of the Church resembles a Ketubah, which documents the Hebrew marriage covenant. It also resembles a Chuppah, which is the Hebrew wedding canopy. Christ stands in the Chuppah as the Bridegroom inviting all to come as Brides to be bound to God's eternal family through making Sacred covenants, and allowing Him to heal us, and guide us home.
The sealing power is actually two fold, to bind us individually to God's family through temple covenants, and also to bind us together in our marriage covenant and partake in all the blessings available to us as we strive to become fully united in heart, mind, body and spirit as a couple.
That is really cool, thanks for sharing, I had no idea that was the intended symbolism.
@@natetuft3245 There's an interview on the Stick of Joseph YT channel titled "The Hidden Hebrew Wedding Ritual and The Temple". It's an extremely captivating presentation revealing Hebrew wedding symbolism in our temple experience and so much of everything we do in the church. I highly recommend it to find greater meaning in our earthly journey as we give ourselves to Christ, the bridegroom.
@@natetuft3245 I learned that from an interview with a wonderful sister Andrea Woodmansee on The Stick of Joseph YT channel titled "The Hidden Hebrew Wedding Ritual and The Temple" It's an extremely captivating interview that opened my eyes to so much Hebrew wedding symbolism inherent in our temple experience and so much of everything we do in the church. I highly recommend it for a deeper understanding of how God leads us home through Christ, the bridegroom.
I thought it was the entrance to the tomb...
@@lisajones1438 Ahh, yes, it could be that as well. I don't recall them announcing such specifics when the symbol was introduced, but they very well could have. Thanks for pointing that out. As is often the case with symbolism, they can often have more than one meaning. I modified my OP to say it resembles a Chuppah instead of saying it definitely is one to leave room for both interpretations.
Amazing interviewer and amazing guest . She is wonderful ,the type of person i wish i could talk to. Thank you for spreading the truth with love in a world where sarcasm and cynicism became the common attitude.
This was such a powerful conversation! Thank you both so much!
Stephen, I really like your interview style. You are one of the best. This was a great interview😊
He doesn't really interview. He just responds in agreement or with surprise to what he's learning. Sometimes he makes observations, but he almost never asks questions. A good interviewer asks questions to draw out information that will most help the audience learn.
@@Brisco-rl8nc how did you become the word police? Great interviewers listen and let the guest speak. It’s not about the host . You only think you know what a great interviewer does. I forgive your ignorance and I stand by what I said. I like his interviewing style. Maybe not interviewing like you would is the key to successful interviewing.
They are discussing scientific research, truths of the gospel to correlate them. Amazing!
@@GlenLawlor science does have a tendency to get closer and closer to the truth when bias is set aside. It is amazing!
Fantastic as always Stephen. Thank you for finding and bring such important voices such as Jenet's to the forefront and letting them teach us what is REAL!
👋 this program is so beautiful and educational to watch and learn about family’s relationships with Heavenly Father . And temple ‘s attendance, I am loving it 🥰. Thank you so much. I am trying to share with as many people as I can.
What a wonderful guest and a wonderful host. Thank you. For making the world a better place!
Being with 2 parents who were both toxic and emotionally unavailable is as bad if not worse than divorce. I believe what she is saying only if both parents are emotionally available. I love this woman‘s message . It is profound. If only all parents had this as their goal with their children. Our world would be totally different and for the better.
I think the most devastating legacy of the institution of slavery was the generations of disregard for and insults to the bonds of family and I think we’re seeing its effects and feeling its impact still today. Whole lotta healing still to be done everywhere. 🙏🌏🙏
It was horrible at the time. But after slavery ended the family was intact in the nineteen sixties. It was after that that the family was attacked and crumbled.
There’s something called generational trauma which I believe factors in.
@@JaneHallstrom1it's true that black families were strong and faithful for many decades. What happened was we started paying women in certain cities/states to NOT get married. We started paying them to have babies, but make sure the father does not move in or stick around. We started monetarily incentivizing every bad behavior that destroys the family. That is what happened. Our government did this.
@@natandjoec this is so true!!
@@natandjoecsounds like you have read or listened to Dr Thomas Sowell. He has written many books talking about this very subject as well as many others.
This was incredible! Thank you! ❤❤
So many wonderful gems in this conversation! Thank you!
WOW!!! I EXPERIENCED NUMEROUS POWERFUL AND PERSONAL INSIGHTS!!!
so many things in this discussion i realized i had discovered over the last 25 years!! thank you both for putting it into words. i was trying to think about how i discovered them. i started with wanting to be a parent and realizing that i was imperfect. i came up with a saying " i have screwed you up the best way i know how" my kids love it that we are not expecting perfection the way the world wants it or othesr want it. but doing your best in the moment and taking the next step the best way we can with faith in Christ. THAT is what lead me to these pieces of light! what a sweet discussion!
My first time hearing of Jenet. What strikes me is the real connection she helps us see/understand we have with not just our direct families but our ancestors all the way back as well. All are a part of us (in us & us in them). Not sure I ever really thought through that fact before. Research has said a family unit is important. However, Jenet's presentation on this subject & the depth of her understanding, plus putting it all together in a way we can understand on a personal & spiritual level is truly a gift from the Lord. This makes me want to reenergize my interest in & work on my own genealogy.
Not only loneliness from broken and dysfunctional families, but also fear and anger; which, I think could be related to violence.
Wow! Thank you both so much! This is so healing to me as a daughter and so helpful to me as a mother!
Thank you for this interview. I was married for 34 years, with a temple wedding. My husband betrayed our family, in so many ways.
He passed away many years ago. I tried dating sites, even lds ones, and it all seems to be hook ups, sadly.
I care for my adult son, who has mental illness. Many sisters in church have not been kind. I considered not going anymore. I carry enough weight already, to have extra stress, and lack of acceptance from ward members.
So sorry what happend to you, God loves you and your son.
So sorry they treat you unkind when they should be understanding and try to help you. They're not being a good stewards of what your faith teaches.
I am now in my 50's, LDS, and single. I never thought that I'd be single so long, and dated a lot in my young adulthood. I've never yet been able to overcome or met a man who could overcome the red-alert, panic button when things started getting serious. The older I get, the scarier pairing up becomes. My faith in my ability to do it is minimal at this point.
Have you ever sat down with a therapist or councilor before? My wife actually saw one because she has a similar trigger and the therapist was able to help rewire her brain so the triggers weren't so crippling.
This is such a great discussion! Jenet is amazing as always!❤
Fantastic Stephen! Thank you Jenet. This is a timely and imperative message.
This segment touched me so much… I didn’t have the words to express our purpose on earth. This dialogue is perfect and expresses how I feel and believe to a tee
I'm the one that does the tickling, rough housing. I play the bull, monster, T-Rex and my children love it! Then we switch to dirt bikes, and cycling as they get older.
This is another comment Im sharing and in some ways repeating some things.
This is what I call deeply connected in ways not previously understood, to our Father and Mother in Heaven, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. I love my children soo much. I just did hear what I've needed to hear all my life, it opens so much. It was explained in a way that I needed to know. I feel it really deep. Thank you both sooo much. I hope this goes to every person everywhere and available for as long as its needed.
Why are there so many young adult men and women who would love to be married and have families but just can't seem to connect even though they're trying?
Wish I knew a single answer to that question. Single 41 yo female here, and I can't find anyone inside or outside the LDS faith who actually lives the values that they say they do - or the values that are taught. I find more men than naught who are narcissistic in their behavior in highly offensive ways or who are so focused on the intimate parts of a relationship (negatively affected by porn). I keep trying, despite. Satan, being the God of this world, is really good at what He does.
@@charlybucket2691I think it might be because what once was is no longer now.
Our sad culture....we didn't realize we were destroying marriage and family, bit by bit. So those who want it struggle to find others with the same desire.
@friendsinthefold I think you are correct. There are two ways to look at it. Either it is an eternal practice like polygamy or it's not. That polygamy part was kinda funny but it is weird how some of us in leadership of the church believe polygamy a true principle and other believers don't accept it. It's also interesting how those that have seen how hard it is to be committed into something that is just not there and maybe never was might have an issue with being in a "marriage " situation. I think committed relationships are healthy and good and so are some marriages. I found that marriage is good and acceptable when wanting a family, then when you go through that struggle of rearing a family and interpretation of that nucleus changes, people have a hard time adjusting and finding that joy. Marriage without children in the picture is senseless. Be committed, be responsible, but the pressure of marriage is something people don't gravitate to these days.
I think it is that we are more connected to the devices than other people.
I cried through this whole thing. I can't tell you how much I needed this message. Thank you both so much. 💗
I love listening to this podcast! This discussion just felt so yummy to my soul! My spirit recognized the truth of the words that were spoken. Thank you for sharing this wonderful conversation.
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It's in the Bible Malachi 4:5,6, Book of Mormon 3rd Nephi 25:5,6, Doctrine and Covenants section 2 and Pearl of Great Price JSH 1 :39.
This interview was absolutely beautiful 😭💗
I'm soo happy that this study validates my emotional truth that this is Christ's church. I'm positive President Russell M. Nelson is a prophet. This study proves it. How could he have known on his own to guide us this way?
I wish the whole world could hear this.
Loved this conversation! ❤
This was amazing. Thank you for your inspiration and insight. I loved how you guys fed off each other. Perfect example of active communication and listening.
So Good! Thank you for this amazing episode. As a married father with 3 kids I can tell you that what she said was 100% true. Some of the stuff she said in this blew my mind about the bond between the mother and her children. Awesome.
This is so so good!!! The information on the connection between parents and the child at birth are absolutely incredible!
Interesting and true. Great interview. Thank you!❤😊
This was an absolute beautiful interview. I wish young people could understand the true beauty in marriage and working on it everyday!!
Thank you so much for this interview. I'm 65 years old and was the oldest daughter of a couple that married in their teens for all the wrong reasons. My parents divorced when I was 9 and a half the first time, they remarried just before my 10th birthday, then separated and divorced again by the time I was 10 and a half. Both divorces were so ugly and got worse. In total my mom had three husbands the first two were mean abusive bullies. Having them out of our lives became a blessing. My mom's third husband was a blessing from a loving Father In Heaven that was sent to our family when I was 16. Up until my dad showed up I had spent my childhood trying to protect my younger sisters and my mom from the bullying and abuse whenever and however I could. I wanted to marry and try to create a marriage and family in the way I knew a family is meant to be, but I was never blessed to find anyone that I could connect with and enter into a marriage relationship. It was so discouraging to try over and over again to put myself in a position to meet someone and to have it fail and feel it is not right at this time. So far it still hasn't happened for me. That hurts and I wonder why but I know that my Father in Heaven loves me very much and also my elder brother the Lord cares deeply about me and my happiness. I believe there are good reasons why I have been waiting so long and in the mean time I need the closeness with Father and my elder brother.
This is the best thing I've listened to in a very long time aside from General Conference. Thank you both!!
This is just what I needed to hear today🥹 I sent it to family members. Incredible! Thank you so very much for this informative interview on the family the science behind it and the data that tells us that we are in trouble if we continue on this path our world is on. Love this so much!
We love and look forward to your podcasts! Thank you for doing these. They are excellent.
This was AMAZING!!!
Stephen Jones, you’re the man keep up the amazing interviews! I feel inspired every time!
Thank you so much for these podcasts, they are always so filled with spiritual insights. I love your interview techniques you listen to your guest instead of always interrupting, which allows them to complete their information & creates an environment of learning for all of us. This guest was so interesting, intelligent, knowledgeable & spiritual. I enjoyed her very much.
My favorite part of the conversation is the end after 55 min. That last section is amazing
I am delighted You Tube served me this video today. Jenet ❤, haven’t seen your face in so long, but it’s great to hear your voice and learn what you’ve been learning and studying. ❤ thanks!🙏