@@FastLane12345 The fact remains the only 2 playoff wins Hurts has came against Daniel Jones and a third string 49ers QB. He’s so overrated beyond belief
He's fantastic. He resurrected Cleveland, just to have them discard him for whatever you want to call the situation up there now. Now, he's playing at an elite level while stabilizing TB after Brady left.
@@Lboogs7 Bingo, when there are no expectations Baker thrives as soon as you demand more from him he's a no go. There's a reason 3 teams moved off of him.
@AilmanF2P facts facts facts 💯. And he has some supreme talent in mike Evans and Chris Godwin along with Bucky Irving and a very solid defense. He has played well, I'm not going to lie, but FRANCHISE quarterback is another conversation.
i think its funny he was like if u win one and lose one we move on from you. by that logic lamar should of been cut already lol. heck no one would have a job but a couple qbs then
Can’t believe a quarter back with 4500 yards 41 tds would get snubbed for the pro bowl. Only 10 quarterbacks have had that and like they said 3 have 70%+ completion rate with that. They picked a rookie with stats not close to that. Why? Cause it’s nothing but a beauty pageant now.
Shady's whole argument was that baker barely gets in the playoffs but then loses. If you use the exact same argument Lamar and Jalen are worse. Emotional people don't make great analysts.
He's fantastic. He resurrected Cleveland, just to have them discard him for whatever you want to call the situation up there now. Now, he's playing at an elite level while stabilizing TB after Brady left.
Shady played in an easy division too when he was getting his stats. winning 9 games was enough then to make the playoffs. Hates on players, but atleast Bajker is getting the WIN in the playoff. Shady would get shut down by the defense or go cold even behind that great o line.
As an eagles fan shady your annoying asf when it comes to baker bro stop it!!! Baker is a baller and has proved that the past two years stop praying on his downfall and discrediting him
@@ink0021really his defense? You mean the defense that has been the reason for almost every loss and is rated as one of the worst defenses in the league this year. 🤣
Baker beat Philadelphia this year.He lost to them in the regular season last year but beat them in the playoffs last year and he won this year against them and he won against detroit this year and he won against The chargers this year. In the regular season against playoff, teams that are in the playoffs this year. He is 3 and 3.. And the one thing shady always forgets. That your divisional rivals always play you better and stronger. And like all day wishes to say baby. " JUST WIN BABY JUST WIN"
I like Jalen Hurts. I like Brock Purdy. But to act like they are top tier QBs because they have been to a Super Bowl is stupid. There are 3 phases of the game with 22 players out there every snap being directed by their coordinators and position coaches, and you want to put every bit of success or failure on the QB? Stop it.
Exaclty.. this clown just saying anything. Tampa has the longest streatk in the NFC for most playoff apprences since 2020. In that playoff streak we have 2 wins against his Eagles. If the Bucs and Baker is 1 and done so is his Eagles.
Shady forgets that jalen hurts has one playoff run where he got extremely lucky and every other year either didn't make it or bounced rouns 1 lol. So if lamar keeps getting bounced should ravens move on too
Shady be hating! 😂😂 I wasn't big on Baker when the Bucs signed him but he has earned the respect of everyone in Tampa and he is a perfect fit. His example is one that all fans should hope to see. A guy that got thrown out with the trash, resurrected his career and is not only legit but a catalyst.
@@NFKINGTY There's a reasons the Brown had to issues moving off of him. His only competition of Derek Carr, i like those odds were a playoff spot. Try that with Allen, Lamar, Mahomes and Burrow Baker would have no chance.
Hurts has reached his ceiling. There are things that you cannot call on him to do, as you can Mahomes, Lamar, Burrow, Allen, and now going forward, Jayden Daniels. The Eagles may be having a 49ers moment - win it now or re-calibrate. The 49ers' problem was heavily internal. The Eagles' problem will be Jayden Daniels & company.
Josh Allen plays in one of the weakest divisions in the NFL and that doesn't get brought up. Baker has turned his career around and he should be commended for it.
Turn his career from being a backup, There's a reason 3 teams moved off of his. Baker's biggest competition is Derek Carr so let's stop talking about divisions here. if Carr played better and didn't choke the last game of the season last year the Saints would be in the playoffs.
I said it was a mistake the day cleveland traded him. Every team is looking for a tom brady or Patrick mahomes instead of building to the QB strengths. That has changed a lot as of late, but historically every team has made a lot of stupid QB decisions
Can we PLEASE stop acting like winning is just a QB stat? Jimmy G has made it to the SB and multiple deep runs with the 9ers… does that make him a more viable QB or equal to his peers? 🤦🏾
Does shady not remember what baker did for the browns franchise?!?? He turned that franchise around and now making them look silly with the Watson deal. I feel bad for browns fans. Shady forgot how the bucs looked with Brady’s last season. Baker isn’t Brady but you can tell the team loves baker and he is ballin. My only thing is maybe shady is salty at the bucs for having the eagles card in the playoffs
It's crazy to still be talking about 2018. Baker has always been good. He hasn't always been on good teams or had good coaches. Baker had Hue Jackson and Freddie Kitchens. Very few NFL QBs are going to be successful with that. But now you see what Baker can be when he has good players around him and a good OC.
I just realized that Shady loves to either hype up or discredit regular season stats because that’s all he had in his career. His playoff stats are not good and the only time he won any playoff games was when he was cheering his team from the sideline! 😂
Chiefs fan here. All I can say on this is The last 2 times they played the Eagles got wiped. Be careful putting scores out there when they haven't proved they can beat em. JS
What is James talking about? Paying him $30M per year this offseason was already committing to Baker as the franchise QB. Baker did his prove-it deal last year and was rewarded.
This isn't analysis. We can all read off stats and say whatever we want about them. Are you watching the games? Are you seeing the actual performances or are you going off some narratives about what Todd Bowles used to be or what the Bucs defense used to be.
This show has been way too mainstream. Only the big and famous + east coast teams getting love. Before this matchup when was the last time this show covered Baker or the Bucs?
If it's so hard to win in the playoffs, teams should stop overpaying for QBs that can't seem to handle hard jobs.Even if the Bucks win, 3 playoff wins in 8 seasons isn't that impressive to me.
I guess he forgot they beat the Lions, Philly, Chargers, Washington lol And he lost Godwin for a half a season and Evans for 4 games. He was throwing to practice squad players. And Tampa’s D is horrible this year while still recovering from the dead cap money of Brady’s contract.
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Shady hates Baker because Baker kicked that Jalen Hurts tail in the Wildcard last year. 😂😂😂. It all makes sense
Philly was a messed last year going into the playoffs. Plus they didn’t have Aj brown that game . When they did have Aj brown, eagles won against Bucs
Baker put all those stats just to choke in the playoffs 😂
@@FastLane12345So what you’re saying is Jalen Hurts isn’t that guy at quarterback?
@@FastLane12345wahhhhh wahhhhhh
@@FastLane12345 The fact remains the only 2 playoff wins Hurts has came against Daniel Jones and a third string 49ers QB. He’s so overrated beyond belief
Keep in mind they lost Godwin and Mike Evans for a stint and everyone thought Atlanta would just roll the division.
Yeah people kinda gloss over that. The Bucs might actually be the 2nd seed if they hadn't lost those guys.
@@deleonfountain8220 and the secondary has been taped, glued, and re-taped back together all season long.
This isn't a bucs stat. The falcons are actually just bad...
I forgot about all that. Damn that's a good point
Ong 😭 just a bunch of talking heads who never been relevant during a championship run
Baker is electric. The media was so ready to label this dude a bust but he’s a baller
He's fantastic. He resurrected Cleveland, just to have them discard him for whatever you want to call the situation up there now. Now, he's playing at an elite level while stabilizing TB after Brady left.
He's a Front runner
He's always been a Baller. He was in Cleveland - You cannot blame that on him.
@@Lboogs7 Bingo, when there are no expectations Baker thrives as soon as you demand more from him he's a no go. There's a reason 3 teams moved off of him.
@AilmanF2P facts facts facts 💯. And he has some supreme talent in mike Evans and Chris Godwin along with Bucky Irving and a very solid defense. He has played well, I'm not going to lie, but FRANCHISE quarterback is another conversation.
Shady is a chump. Baker is ballin, dude. Grow up, pull up your big boy part and admit you are wrong, as you usual are wrong
i think its funny he was like if u win one and lose one we move on from you. by that logic lamar should of been cut already lol. heck no one would have a job but a couple qbs then
It's Facility. All they do is act like grown men children for views. It's sad that dudes like the one above are defending his bafoolery
LIke is said Shady is the worst sports analyst in tv!!!!!!!!!!
buddy baker is like sam
No team will ever win the ultimate prize with Baker Mayfield as they're Quarterback. EVER!!!
Shady just glossed over the fact that one of those playoff wins was against his eagles
He’d make excuses for it. Dudes an idiot
Shady right tho no team will ever win the ultimate prize with himas your Quarterback. Win a terrible division by a game but that's it...🤷♂️
Lesean, the eagles were "one-and-done" last year to the bucs. Do you not remember?
That's why he's saying this lol being salty lol
Hope we play em again and beat em AGAIN because obviously doing it multiple times doesn’t count
I 🙏🏾 Tampa don't choke to Washington. So they can come to Philly in the second round. Oooh I can't wait!!!
Can’t believe a quarter back with 4500 yards 41 tds would get snubbed for the pro bowl. Only 10 quarterbacks have had that and like they said 3 have 70%+ completion rate with that. They picked a rookie with stats not close to that. Why? Cause it’s nothing but a beauty pageant now.
16 INT and not winner when it matters the most.
Shady's whole argument was that baker barely gets in the playoffs but then loses. If you use the exact same argument Lamar and Jalen are worse. Emotional people don't make great analysts.
Didn't Baker and the BUCS beat Jalen and the Eagles in the playoffs last year and in the regular season this year???? Shady is dumb!!!
Yup. Also his "franchise guy" got out scored in the last half of SB LVII and got beaten like a they stole something in Tampa last year.
He's fantastic. He resurrected Cleveland, just to have them discard him for whatever you want to call the situation up there now. Now, he's playing at an elite level while stabilizing TB after Brady left.
Baker has completey changed the narrative on him and he's 100 a franchise QB.
Lmao how is shady so arrogant about the eagles, you've won 1 superbowl
Shady played in an easy division too when he was getting his stats. winning 9 games was enough then to make the playoffs. Hates on players, but atleast Bajker is getting the WIN in the playoff. Shady would get shut down by the defense or go cold even behind that great o line.
Let's all hope baker wins a superbowl
🤣😭
Going to the right team and system matters
Shady looks who Josh Allen plays twice a year his stats should be boosted more against Lamar stats. Your words, js. 😂
As an eagles fan shady your annoying asf when it comes to baker bro stop it!!! Baker is a baller and has proved that the past two years stop praying on his downfall and discrediting him
Dude its the defense not baker
Baker is a front runner and 🤡
@ink0021 one of the worst defenses in the NFL? Lmao clown 🤡
@@ink0021😂😂😂 yeah the defense threw for 4500 yards n 41 tds 🤡
@@ink0021really his defense? You mean the defense that has been the reason for almost every loss and is rated as one of the worst defenses in the league this year. 🤣
So if Jalen hurts gets eliminated in front of playoffs he's done with the eagles not the future according to shady McCoy
Baker about to give Shady a reality check
Baker is underrated because a lot of people don't like his personality not because he isn't good!!🤔🤔🤔
Baker beat Philadelphia this year.He lost to them in the regular season last year but beat them in the playoffs last year and he won this year against them and he won against detroit this year and he won against The chargers this year. In the regular season against playoff, teams that are in the playoffs this year. He is 3 and 3.. And the one thing shady always forgets. That your divisional rivals always play you better and stronger. And like all day wishes to say baby. " JUST WIN BABY JUST WIN"
4 wins They beat the Commanders
Shady sounds mad he needs some Joy in his life 😂😂
Just needs a glass of milk
I like Jalen Hurts. I like Brock Purdy. But to act like they are top tier QBs because they have been to a Super Bowl is stupid. There are 3 phases of the game with 22 players out there every snap being directed by their coordinators and position coaches, and you want to put every bit of success or failure on the QB? Stop it.
Hurts had Swift, Brown, and Smith with a great o line and his team was one and done to the Bucs with Baker who destroyed that team.
No Aj in that game but point still stands. Baker cooked lmao
Brown didnt play smh
False
Hey Shady… who was it the 9-8 Bucs with Baker beat in the playoffs?
Boy if only shady knew the head to head stats of baker mayfield vs jalen hurts 😂
Baker is the best player but Eagles fans don’t want to hear it
Shady the eagles were one and done last season 🤔
Exaclty.. this clown just saying anything. Tampa has the longest streatk in the NFC for most playoff apprences since 2020. In that playoff streak we have 2 wins against his Eagles. If the Bucs and Baker is 1 and done so is his Eagles.
Shady forgets that jalen hurts has one playoff run where he got extremely lucky and every other year either didn't make it or bounced rouns 1 lol. So if lamar keeps getting bounced should ravens move on too
3-1 vs the nfc and Philly was one of those ones .
So was Detroit
Without their top 2 receivers and Their All pro offensive Lineman
@ Bucs were without their saftey, Nikel, and LB. The Philly Defense was fully loaded . Bucs still Boat Raced them
@@billyjenkins3672 they always wanna say what they missing whole defense was out there, they act like we don’t own them
Praying that Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold are on winning teams this weekend. Sick to death of hearing the same bile over and over again from McCoy.
BUCS HAVE BEATN THE EAGLES AND DETROIT THIS YEAR. POOR STATS
And the chargers and the commanders… all playoff teams
Shady be hating! 😂😂 I wasn't big on Baker when the Bucs signed him but he has earned the respect of everyone in Tampa and he is a perfect fit. His example is one that all fans should hope to see. A guy that got thrown out with the trash, resurrected his career and is not only legit but a catalyst.
Of course Shady loves to reflect on the past
only if its beneficial to his argument. I think he is a horrible analyst that is too compromised with bias
Normally you can't escape the past I mean he's right
@@NFKINGTY There's a reasons the Brown had to issues moving off of him. His only competition of Derek Carr, i like those odds were a playoff spot. Try that with Allen, Lamar, Mahomes and Burrow Baker would have no chance.
Shady is hating.
I listened all the way until Shady chimed in. Tuning out now!
Most touchdowns since being a buc. Stupid talk
Hurts has reached his ceiling. There are things that you cannot call on him to do, as you can Mahomes, Lamar, Burrow, Allen, and now going forward, Jayden Daniels. The Eagles may be having a 49ers moment - win it now or re-calibrate. The 49ers' problem was heavily internal. The Eagles' problem will be Jayden Daniels & company.
Josh Allen plays in one of the weakest divisions in the NFL and that doesn't get brought up. Baker has turned his career around and he should be commended for it.
Just like how Brady did n how mahomes is dame like baker
Turn his career from being a backup, There's a reason 3 teams moved off of his. Baker's biggest competition is Derek Carr so let's stop talking about divisions here. if Carr played better and didn't choke the last game of the season last year the Saints would be in the playoffs.
@AilmanF2P 3 teams did move off him but he made the most of his opportunity. I was refuting to what Shady said about him being in the South.
@@AilmanF2Prams didn’t move on. They had Stafford. McVay wanted to keep him but Baker wanted a starter role
Shady always hating on someone he didnt mention mike evans & godwin being out or the fact they won the division twice in a row when he picked ATL.
I said it was a mistake the day cleveland traded him. Every team is looking for a tom brady or Patrick mahomes instead of building to the QB strengths. That has changed a lot as of late, but historically every team has made a lot of stupid QB decisions
Can we PLEASE stop acting like winning is just a QB stat? Jimmy G has made it to the SB and multiple deep runs with the 9ers… does that make him a more viable QB or equal to his peers? 🤦🏾
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It would mean the Browns continue to eat their hearts out.😂
Baker is a good quarterback
What makes this video funnier, baker dunked on the eagles earlier this year 😂
Bucs put Philly out last year. I don't wanna hear from Shady.
Shady is a hater he had two rings gave to him
Shady I can’t side with you on this one! Baker def balling!!!
Shady you gotta give Baker his credit. Stop moving the goal post shady.
Does shady not remember what baker did for the browns franchise?!?? He turned that franchise around and now making them look silly with the Watson deal. I feel bad for browns fans. Shady forgot how the bucs looked with Brady’s last season. Baker isn’t Brady but you can tell the team loves baker and he is ballin. My only thing is maybe shady is salty at the bucs for having the eagles card in the playoffs
It's crazy to still be talking about 2018. Baker has always been good. He hasn't always been on good teams or had good coaches. Baker had Hue Jackson and Freddie Kitchens. Very few NFL QBs are going to be successful with that. But now you see what Baker can be when he has good players around him and a good OC.
I just realized that Shady loves to either hype up or discredit regular season stats because that’s all he had in his career. His playoff stats are not good and the only time he won any playoff games was when he was cheering his team from the sideline! 😂
I’m coming back here when the Bucs beat the Eagles
Eagles 48 Bucs 32
Chiefs fan here. All I can say on this is The last 2 times they played the Eagles got wiped. Be careful putting scores out there when they haven't proved they can beat em. JS
@@zachkramer7370 48 points?! LOL Todd Bowles rarely gives up the 40 burger.
You're coming back no time soon
@@DaveFreeeees how about next weekend
Love how they shade Baker being in a weak division but praised Bill/Brady and the Pats when their division was weak af for a long tine
He's better than hurts buddy stop it
Shady just salty they got beat by the 9-8 bucks in the playoffs last year😂
That’s because Tom and Patrick sat their rookie year.
Bruh i love shady; the shock on his face with the first 17 seconds tho 😂
What is James talking about? Paying him $30M per year this offseason was already committing to Baker as the franchise QB. Baker did his prove-it deal last year and was rewarded.
i really dont even listen to shady no more cause he talks with extreme bias and it clouds his takes most times.
Shady kind of hatin...for whatever reason..
1:44 Don't forget "Led the league in interceptions"
Baker also took Cleveland to the playoffs and a win.
Baker Mayfield won six games with Freddie Kitchens as his head coach. Of course he’s talented.
Baker single-handedly sent the Eagles home last year.
Shady didnt eagles get destroyed last year
Shady, another wood to fuel the fire for Baker. Just keep showing up and keep ballin Baker.
I'm a Bucs fan, and I ALWAYS forget Shady was on the team. He just annoys me.
He's 1000% correct.
Got a ring and all. Need to give it back the way he talking
Same. He’s a nobody and never heard of him till I watched this show.
Another playoff win for Baker just shows how terrible the Brown franchise is!
Baker is elite
Baker is has done more than expected
Wasnt eagles a loss away from a drop pass against panthers
With that logic they were two drops from winning 2 more games
@camvole8806 I agree but it is what it is
Beat 4 playoff teams this year too
Shady is right
💯💯💯💯💯
This isn't analysis. We can all read off stats and say whatever we want about them. Are you watching the games? Are you seeing the actual performances or are you going off some narratives about what Todd Bowles used to be or what the Bucs defense used to be.
Baker is the DEFINITION of a Front runner. He talks trash and when they lose he's quiet as a church mouse
When does baker mayfield talk trash as a buccaneer?
This show has been way too mainstream. Only the big and famous + east coast teams getting love. Before this matchup when was the last time this show covered Baker or the Bucs?
Shady made good points
McCoy is the definition of what every eagles fan has become after winning one Super Bowl 😂😭
Shady is a Baker Mayfield hater. He just doesn't want to give that man his props. He's a Lamar Jackson hater as well.
Another playoff win for Baker means he's more clutch than Lamar. Plain and simple.
Ok I was wrong James Jones you was speaking facts about baker if he wins
If it's so hard to win in the playoffs, teams should stop overpaying for QBs that can't seem to handle hard jobs.Even if the Bucks win, 3 playoff wins in 8 seasons isn't that impressive to me.
Shady hating
Baker getting a Ring LFG Go Bucs!
😆😆😆😆😆👎🏾👎🏾
@ I smell an Eagles fan
If you mean participation trophy then sure.
@@AilmanF2P Mad Brown's Fan
Shady talkin bout the Bucs division but lookit the Bills division
One thing about it, man, when shady believes in something, God himself can’t change his mind
Yet they still be hating on Goff. A qb that has better stats all around
Dawg the Bills, Jets, and Dolphins were terrible for over a decade and nobody mentioned it when Brady was winning that division every year.
Isn't lamar one and done 😂😂😂😂
Damn shady. How many rings did you get in Philly?
Baker is a better QB than Hurts and it’s TRUE 😂😂
Oh shady. You are being shady. He beat your philadelphia eagles this year again. He beat the detroit lions at full strength. He beat the chargers.
Also Shady is ridiculous. If youre gonna penalize Baker for playing in a weak division, lets talk about Tom Brady.
More playoff wins since 2018 than Drew Brees? Well he’s been retired since 2020 so wtf are we talking about
So, just going to ignore the fact that they beat the Lions, the Eagles, the Chargers, AND Commanders?
Wait, didn’t Brady play in that same division and after winning a chip got blown out by the Cowboys the following year??
I guess he forgot they beat the Lions, Philly, Chargers, Washington lol
And he lost Godwin for a half a season and Evans for 4 games. He was throwing to practice squad players. And Tampa’s D is horrible this year while still recovering from the dead cap money of Brady’s contract.
As soon as the topic of baker comes up shady immediately dismisses him. Come on now. Where's the growth.