I used this method on many of my Cities Skylines highways that had major problems. I nicknamed the turnaround section, a "horseshoe", it always felt like a cheat and didn't know until this bridge that it was a thing that was actually used in real life.
This is super common in Texas, especially around DFW where almost every highway over/underpass has them. They’re pretty great. They really only work so well because the frontage roads are one-ways and are right up along the highway.
I drive this every day and it's still a death trap. Nobody pays attention to the signs so you have people weaving from one side of the road to the other, all going anywhere from 55 to 75 mph because nobody pays attention to the speed limit either.
Apartments are legal? Corner stores are allowed? Building trains needs money that's going to funding wars Income is taxed We should separate foot/bike traffic from car traffic @FrostyButter
5th Street Covington Ky ramp to 75 North/71 North. I'm a truck driver and years ago I had to deal with this 5 days a week with a semi truck. I would have to enter the ramp and immediately have to cut across 2 lanes to get on 75 North. With a car it's possible but in a semi it's very dangerous, I would have to push my truck into the other lanes to get over. I did that route for a year before I got another route.
You almost need a pistol to drive in these metropolitan areas as I too am a truck driver and it can sometimes be difficult to get over especially if you're in the far left lane
Me too brother. I'm retireded now but I did this same bridge many times. I'm from the sunny side of the derby and I had to deal with spaghetti junction every day before I headed to cincy.roll on .😊
The original set up looked fine and was long enough to work. The drivers in the main lanes just need to be courteous and allow merges during heavy traffic hours.
@@randomone4832you mean, like using buses, trams and other viable alternatives to driving, as to reduce the amount cars that can crash on the roads? yeah, that would indeed be efficient.
I’ve driven this bridge maybe 4 times and it still immediately stuck out when you began describing the issue. It was stressful every time even if I wasn’t changing lanes
In Ottawa drivers merging from highway 416 onto westbound highway 417 to take Moodie Drive used to have less than 1 km to cross four lanes of traffic. Now traffic on 416 heading for Moodie Drive is diverted onto Holly Acres Road, passing under the 417 before joining it on the right hand side. It's a little slower and less direct, but far safer.
The best part of it was what they did with the on ramp that’s right before the one they closed. It used to merge over and was a major point of congestion. People would pass in the left lanes and then have to get over to the right for the exits to 71N and downtown. But since they closed the exit in the short, they could extend this other on ramp so that it continued into its own lane, getting rid of the merge and the congestion. Now it’s more beneficial to already be in the right lanes before you get to the bridge.
Exactly. And if you really need too make it safer you can use a concrete barrier to separate the on/off-ramp lanes and slow down traffic that's merging. That prevents people from flying through multiple lanes of traffic and reduces the speed at which people navigate the merge.
Yeah I don't understand why this was closed, we have plenty of on & off ramps here in Texas far closer to each other than that with traffic lights crazy close to the exit & we make it work just fine with hella traffic 😂
In Derby, UK, we have loads of entrance ramps that become exit ramps and they feel so dangerous although I've never heard of a crash on them. I think we might be going at a slower speed but they look much shorter than this bridge
Yeah this set up is super common on clover leaf interchanges and here in Luxembourg those are used on some very very traffic heavy parts. Yet I never seen or had a problem with them, everyone just slows down lol
Interesting how germany doesn't seem to have such problems on the highways (Autobahn). The only example in germany that is roughly like the american Highway may be the so called yellow Autobahn (country road with seperate lanes 2x2 or more) e.g. B17 or B36 roads. I would like you to evaluate on some other international examples (pros, cons and your suggestions for a safer/better locomotion. Love your videos 👍
This is in Cincinnati btw. Also I always wondered what that ramp was for I assumed it was for highway staff personnel since it was always blocked off when I was heading to work through there.
Google Maps shows that the ramp was still open as recently as July 2022. So you haven't lived in Cincinnati very long if it was always blocked off for as long as you've known about it.
When I lived in Sacramento I was north of the American River and my workplace was south of it. My route on I-5 had me merge onto the highway just before it crossed the river and exit just after. I was able to get into the onramp and stay in the extra lane the entire time, without having to touch traffic. It was awesome.
@@richardvincent3680 Garden Highway to Richards. I worked in West Sac and lived in Natomas, so I would take Jibbon, across the drawbridge, and that road would lead right to my workplace.
Not in this case. The population of the greater Cincinnati area stuck on the Kentucky side of the Ohio river is way bigger than the bridges were designed to handle. During the rush hours, crossing this bridge can take 2+ hours. I’ve waited in dead stop gridlock traffic all the way from the bridge to Florence, KY. Approximately a 12 mile distance according to google maps. The problem is that in this area, I-75 is both one of the busiest interstates in the region for interstate travel, as well as the best way for commuters to cross the river before and after work.
@@Natediggetydog you're also forgetting that both i-75 and I-71 share the same bridge too. Having two major downtown interchanges placed less than 1/2 mile apart doesn't help either. At the end of the day you can either solve a bottle neck problem by turning it into a water glass or a test tube.
This unironically helped me remember the original purpose of the new bridge that's being built like one city over from where I live. It's been in the works for YEARS but then due to budgeting issues followed by the pandemic construction was pretty much at a halt until mid 2021 when it picked up speed and now it's almost done but construction has been so long I 100% forgot why they were building a new bridge to replace the current one but that little animation shows pretty much the exact situation thats currently happening (including the shapes of the bridges, damn) and suddenly the construction makes a lot more sense to me. Somehow it didn't occur to me that one of the main issues with the bridge right now is that for one part of the lanes, I think its travelling northbound, you have to get into a left turn lane if you want to get on the bridge and go east, and a completely different left turn lane to go west, while southbound drivers have the right turn lane. This is all run by two different traffic light intersections, and cars heading west coming from the bridge can turn to go north or south at one of the traffic lights, while drivers heading east exit before the bridge and have freedom to turn north or south at the other traffic light. Basically northbound drivers are the only ones who have to sit in a left turn lane to get on the ramps for either east or west. With the new bridge, northbound drivers will have their own on ramp, and thats as much as I can recall at the moment, because Waze and Google Maps learned about the on ramp a few months ago and keep trying to redirect me to use the ramp to get on the bridge, even though the ramp will just lead me to an active construction site paired with probably falling into the river.
Pittsburgh has some of the lightest traffic out of all the major cities I work in, but the roads are such bullshit to navigate that it ends up taking just as long. One missed road adds 20 minutes.
I literally came here for this comment i live in Pittsburgh and I’m like we do this everyday and we have like 200 yards to figure out. Like if you’re coming from 376 to go to 28 you change 8 different lanes in about a mile.
Yeah they were explaining the problem at the beginning of the video and all I could think was "I do this every day with way less time, what's the problem?"
Dallas ramps do this all the time. They have ramps upon ramps merging into more ramps. If you are not comfortable changing 2 or 3 lanes at a time in heavy traffic, you won’t do well in Dallas
Try most ring-roads in most UK cities… that weaving, entry-lane-is-next-exit-lane nonsense is literally every junction, sometimes just 50 yards apart. It’s a nightmare
@@randgrithr7387if people didn’t insist of driving like selfish assholes, it wouldn’t be a problem. I’ll be so happy when most vehicles are autonomous. There are many where I live, and they drive so much better than most humans.
@@cowfat8547 The golden gate bridge cost 667 million accounting for inflation and was one of the largest bridge projects in our country. I find it nigh impossible that a bridge there would cost 3 billion.
That's all Texas especially.. in and on San Antonio and Dallas BUT New York and LI and New Jersey those three are on a completely different level and universe
I have been a truck driver for 30 years, this stretch of i-75 through Cincinnati has been under construction in one spot or another for the entire time. There is also a similar stretch around Dayton, no matter what they've done how much they've upgraded or what they've changed, they always have something else to do when they finish with that
Honestly with how bad suburban sprawl is here there’s no fixing it. Americans are so divided they’ll never uniformly agree to improve cities here. Cities are starting to catch on but the damage suburban sprawl, NIMBYs and “muh freedom” has done will be extremely difficult to undo
How exactly do you expect to get public transport everywhere in a place as large as the US? Use your brain. Look at a map and compare the size of any of our states to one of these "enlightened" countries with public transport. Sheep.
Normally it would be fine, but the bridge in question sucks. The reasons why is simple. It 75 and 71, two major highways, share a bridge that goes directly into downtown Cincinnati, Ohio. Worst, 71 imminently split after getting of the bridge, AND there a normal exit basically at the same time. All this leads it to be consider one of the worst congested area in the US (it rank as high as 2nd by truckers in 2021). So having to cross 2+ lanes of traffic isnt really safe if you are on it during rush hour.
You wouldn’t understand unless you’ve driven on it during rush hour. The bridge gets a ton of out of town vacationers going up to Ohio/down to Kentucky. That being said, the drivers who have never been on the bridge and don’t know its flaws cutting 4 lanes over combined with ass to ass traffic = a dangerous congested mess
Leaving not enough room between cars, tailgating and aggressively cutting off people, in short, BAD road manners are surely a major component of the problem... 😕
You should see the on and exit ramps in Germany on the Autobahns. There's a 30/40m length of lane we're both oncoming and offgoing cars have to filter simultaneously through.
Same exact layout in one particular area on a Houston freeway and yes it's extremely chaotic, and the one in Houston has a shorter distance to be able to get over before the merge lane turns to exit. Nobody wants to let you over, which causes more traffic because you just sit there with the blinker on holding up people behind you who need to exit.
This is the Brent Spence Bridge from Covington, KY heading north across the Ohio River into Cincinnati. In the old configuration with the ramp open, this bridge afforded is users approximately 2700 get, or .5 miles, to make it across 4 lanes of traffic. The new configuration with the turnaround gives them about 5200 feet, or approximately one mile, to accomplish the same task. At highway speeds, that's approximately 30 seconds the old way, about 50 seconds to a minute now. Compare this to the Fort Pitt Bridge crossing the Monongahela River in Pittsburgh, where the Ohio River starts about 1500 feet downstream from. If you enter the Fort Pitt Bridge going north into the city from W. Carson Street on the South side of the river, you run into the same problem, except you have only 1000 feet and about 12 seconds to figure it out. This is also a bridge on a U.S. interstate, btw. Oh, and if you're going south coming from US-28 or the North Shore, it's the same issue in the opposite direction. God forbid you start from the Boulevard of the Allies ramp, cause you have to start at a full stop before proceeding across the same bridge. Cincy couldn't handle it if they tried.
This is the Newport-Cincinnati Ohio bridge, I've been to a couple Bengals and Reds games where we had to go through this route, The crashes really did decrease!
What ought to be done with it is addressing the fact that _that_ bridge is one of the most dangerous bridges in the country, while also being the primary means of travel across the Ohio River for thousands daily. It needs to be addressed before it becomes a disaster.
I see absolutely no issue with the distance to perform this lane change safely. This is a frequent occurence here in Germany, when 3 Autobahnen meet. One example is Kreuz Kaiserberg, where from A59 you can enter A40 but use the same entrance onto A40 to leave for A3. Reduce speed, check mirrors, change lanes?! People expect lane changes in these areas and drive accordingly careful 😅
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I don't know how it's done in Germany, but in Netherlands, only certified driving instructors can teach you how to drive, and only in a car with dual controls, and only if you're past 18 years of age (well, actually 16, but you won't get the license before 18). And usually manual. In US, any auntie and uncle Bob driving in a beat-up Buick with worn-off tires and smoking engine can give "driving lessons" to teenagers who can get a license from 16 years. The result is that the roads have to be bigger, wider, longer, just so that these distracted kids don't kill themselves too much. Here in the Netherlands, weave lanes are a normal thing, you do your observations, identify a gap, equalize speed to other traffic, mirror, signal, maneuver, inside mirror, turn off signal, done. Oftentimes you even do a little "shuffle" with other cars as each of you speeds up (or lets go of gas) and both drivers change lanes simultaneously. It always looks and feels super cool, like dancing in a car.
last time i was on this bridge, there was an accident in the middle of it, so i (along with many others) used that exact ramp (before it was closed) to escape the mess. glad to see that the routing has been changed and accidents reduced. i've been on that bridge innumerable times and it can be a nightmare with all the merging going on....
Or, hear me out. Spend the money on a BUS or a TRAIN that takes up less space and carries more people. And yes, I am aware that the bridge is old and needs to be replaced. Perfect opportunity to build rail and bus lanes directly into it!
This is 'Murrikuh. You'd have better luck convincing way too many people to smoke from the tailpipes on the highway than convincing them of the merits of mass transit. 😒
You can spend all the money you want, but people have made their decision, they choose to drive by car. A highway like this is primarily meant to get one through a city, not around it. Therefore, comparing it to the bus or train, which is quite different, lacks sense. Yes, they take up space, but America is not like Europe. America invented the notion of a "road trip." Few nations are as well connected as America is, despite its size. Getting around the country by bus or train is not as practical.
You should do a video about the I-65/I-70 interchange in downtown Indianapolis next. It had a very similar problem. I-65N turns West to continue, and I-70E crosses through it to continue East. It used to be that traffic wishing to stay on their current interstate had to change lanes to the opposite side of the interchange, otherwise they'd end up on the opposite interstate (I-65 lanes turned into I-70 and vise versa) Recently there was a huge project to rebuild the interchange so that staying in your lane would keep you on your current interstate. They built a crossover at the end of the interchange to accomplish this. It's much more intuitive now with far less dangerous traffic ballet.
I26 (west i think, although its going east over the bridge) going over the french broad in Asheville forces you to cross all lanes while on the bridge. Ive seen some great dashcam vids from there, hope someone fixes that whole mess.
I used to take that entrance ramp all the time, I was wondering why they closed it. The Brent Spence bridge is always a mess, especially between 3-6 pm
Just south of Salt Lake City, where I-15 southbound merges onto I-215 eastbound, there's a merging situation 50x worse than this. The cars from I-15 southbound merge into the left side of I-215 eastbound the same time that an offshoot of I-15 northbound merges into the right side. To make my exit, I have to merge on the far left lane, across 4 lanes of traffic into the far right lane while everyone else is also merging in every direction. Please make a video on it because it's an absolute nightmare
Drivers in USA don't know how to change lanes or allow lane changes, no. Ohio, where this is, is of all the places in the US that I've lived the one where people are most likely to cooperate with you if you're signaling for a lane change. But still, I frequently had to drive through a weave like that except a mile long and not on a bridge (in Columbus, Ohio), and it was kind of harrowing.
I've had to use the ramp that they closed and I couldn't safely merge and nobody would let me over with enough space to be safe. I ended up being *forced* off the highway at the exit it fed into. I was so rattled that even though it took 45 minutes more, I drove surface roads the entire rest of the way. And let me tell too, what makes the existing bridge even more dangerous is that it's a heroin bridge. Beginning with the exit after that one, the next 10 or so exits are used by people crossing the river to go cop their next fix. So, between 9 AM & 11 AM, you have people in withdraw headed northbound just wanting to stop being sick and not in a place yet where compulsory treatment would be effective/affective (I get the usage of the 2 mixed up). Going south, they've had their fix. From then to roughly 11 PM, traffic both ways has had some measure of intoxicating substances. That makes the bridge even more dangerous because our reaction times are elongated. Yes, "our". As of 16 June 2024, I had 7 years clean of heroin and sober of alcohol and as of 11 October '24, it's still true and I've been fortunate to have sufficient support to have not had a single relapse in all that time. So, I know what I'm talking about because I'm talking from personal knowledge and experience. My one dealer put a 60% down payment on a BMW, so you tell me how big a problem that is with this bridge because that's just 1 dealer. I met another one that paid off a Mustang. Granted, this is a separate problem from what this short is addressing. However, think of how many lives are saved by having more time to get over to the lane you need. How many people have a chance to get help as a result. How many innocents made it home to their families because this 4th Street ramp closed and rerouted traffic to a U-turn at the 12th Street ramp. I don't drive the interstate anymore. It turns out that the drugs were masking my panic. I get panic attacks on the interstate sober. So, I now only use non-interstate routes. This short shows Covington, Ky and the bridge to Cincinnati, Ohio, near where the Bengals stadium is. I've had to drive from Covington to Lexington, Ky and from Covington to Frankfort, Ky. I had to drive the surface roads, US-27 & US-25 to the subsequent turns. Leaving around 7 AM, I didn't get home either time before 5 PM. But I did it sober and I did it safe. I know that this reroute has had a positive impact on so many, so I applaud the city for finally doing something useful. This is my 2 cents worth. I hope my words have value to someone
The "problem ramp" is a great example of just how bad most drivers really are. If people would let other cars merge/change lanes as needed, the original ramp would have worked fine
Cost efficient for who? Not the vehicle owners. You have to do that twice a day everyday… and that distance on wear and tear, fuel, tires etc all adds up.
Pish tosh. Two extra minutes of commute each way, four total. You're telling me vehicle owners feel angst about an extra four minutes of driving? Is it possible you're mis-imagining this scenario so you can be a grouchypants on the Internet?
I'm going to disagree with you on this one. As a driver, a couple extra miles for safety is a good thing! Now, could those lanes be better marked? That's the question! Pretty sure I've been on this bridge and it is a nightmare trying to make sure you are in the correct lane - and that is even if you are coming from the rest of the highway and not merging on!
I live in Cincinnati and work in Kentucky and haven't gone over the Brent Spence Bridge for at least 20 years. It is a hair raising stretch. Glad to know about this improvement, but will continue to go a few extra miles to cross the Big Mac.
That was not for the signs. That was for expanding the frontage road, adding the u-turn under the southern bridge. That also required modifying the bridge.
This is unfortunately one of those times where me as a selfish human would be mad if I knew this had been available and was closed and instead I had to drive a mile back around first EVEN KNOWING ITS SAFER. Human brains just aren’t worth having. 😂
Maybe the US should not invest money in such nonsense projects, but in the real problem. The problem here is not a bad ramp. In Germany, these lanes are very normal and no problem at all. The real problem is that most Americans cannot drive a car properly. In Germany you need a long and expensive training to get a driving license. In the US you just have to know how to start and speed up a car. This is the real problem!
California is notorious for design fails like this. Designing off-ramps connected to on-ramps using the same lane with less than a half a block to make your decision and play chicken with cars getting on or off the highway is the norm. It's maddening 🤬
$9 million dollars to block a ramp. Typical America pocketing the money. I mean there's already a road there for that diversion so where on Earth did the money go?
Believe it or not, the original planned design had like twice the land footprint, and local opposition managed to get it reduced to something relatively compact. In any case, this is a very rare situation where SOME kind of highway expansion is actually necessary. This is a massive choke point for commercial trucks that are transporting goods between the South and the Midwest, and the Brent Spence Bridge was not designed for the level of traffic it currently carries.
@@fawfulfan So instead of trying to reduce the amount of trucks and cars they AGAIN just try to make the roads bigger and wider.. In this case its just a little bit less shit than usual but still shit has never worked and will never work!
@@Distress.Everyone even non drivers are already paying for car infrastructure LOL. So I’ll gladly redirect that money to better transit and you will too
@@Dicaso9 yeah and that money has already been allocated to improving this bridge which already sees more use that even the rosiest transit ridership estimates. So you'd have to raise taxes to build your new transit network. That's why urbanist keep whining on RUclips calling everyone NIMBYs
Thats exactly what they did in Mobile Alabama. There was a on ramp that would take you to the entrance of the Wallace Tunnel from Downtown Mobile and this was a quick merge lane and would cause east bound traffic to back up for miles, or cause accidents. The on ramp was closed, and a turn around was created a mile away west on Texas St for traffic to turn around and get back on east bound I10.
That was not for the ramp closure. That was for expanding the frontage road, adding the u-turn under the southern bridge. That also required modifying the bridge.
The original design describes every exit in on the highway I drive to work. The traffic created by people getting on the highway trying to swap places with people getting off the highway is insane and I see near-accidents almost every day.
It's not just an American problem - Canada, Mexico & Brazil are just as car dependent. And car dependency is what makes drivers worse. Because of the simple fact that you need a car to actively participate in society, even people who can barely drive are given a license.
The US is car dependent for a reason. A single US state is the size of a European country. The rural population of the US is 2/3rds the population of the UK. People often travel between cities all the time with the exception of some major metropolises, but they already have plenty of public transportation. Furthermore, most Americans have complex schedules, with different time requirements and constraints that public transportation can hinder or not allow at all. It's not a viable solution with how massive and diverse our country is.
@@Bako751 Yeah a lot of people drive every morning from Texas to Vegas for their job. I will believe you. Wake up man. You even drive 0.5 Miles to the grocery store…. Your City’s could be more compact, with less parking lots or underground parking. So with less car dependency, the distances were a lot shorter. Trains and High speed rail could be a good alternative instead of driving (or standing in traffic jam) 3 hours to the next City. All that would cost a fractions of the Roads you build. In my Country, there are people driving every work-day 140 miles by train (1 hour by train or 3 hours by car… your choice) But in America there ist no choice… its kinda ridiculous that you even talk about “freedom” A train ticket for the whole year costs $5000 and can be co-funded by your employer.
I thought this was the old onramp from Water St to I-10 East in Mobile at first. That uses almost the exact same solution, replacing an incredibly tight and short onramp that fed into the tight right curve leading down into the Wallace tunnel with a turnaround on the next interchange back.
There's a freeway junction near me that was built the same way; a N/S US Route briefly jogs over to E/W for a couple miles where it meets an E/W State Highway. Traffic on the N/S has to merge from the far left lane to the far right lane to stay on their route, and E/W traffic has to do the opposite from right to left. In only 2 miles, 4 lanes (2 per each route entering the junction) shrink down to 3, so it always backs up. There's enough hill at either end that they could have built it so that N/S route comes under/over the E/W and enters from the right so that through traffic on both routes doesn't have to merge, but that is not what they went with.
One time on 95 in Connecticut. I believe it's a Junction with 81. They redid it a few years ago, and the left lane exit became a right lane exit, and I missed it. So I got off at the very next exit, and it was the easiest, go up the ramp cross over the bridge and go back down and onto the highway. The recovery was so easy it felt planned. Now I think it was😊
This bridge is located between Cincinnati Ohio and Kentucky, it’s the bridge that connects the 2 states, it started off as a 3-lane bridge, but as population grew, they got rid of the break down lanes and made it a narrow 4 lane bridge. The new bridge will be connecting one highway, and the other will connect with the second highway
Detroit is like the first part but every single highway, the stretch of i-96 between M-5 and M-39 kills hundreds of people a year just because its so brutal. Travels at 96 or 9.6 but I like to rip it
I used this method on many of my Cities Skylines highways that had major problems. I nicknamed the turnaround section, a "horseshoe", it always felt like a cheat and didn't know until this bridge that it was a thing that was actually used in real life.
Same. And So true.
same here! the lane mathematics on the bridge really ties it all together
I thought this was called a Texas Turnaround.
This is super common in Texas, especially around DFW where almost every highway over/underpass has them. They’re pretty great. They really only work so well because the frontage roads are one-ways and are right up along the highway.
I’ve seen similar things before in some tricky intersections in cities, there’s even one near me
"We heard you like lanes, so we added lanes to your lanes so that you can go in the opposite direction while you try to find the right one."
Americans be like
@@automation7295obviously the ones who don’t drive here are ignorant to it🤣🤣 ✨Europeans✨😂
@@bigbk3278 what are you even trying to say
@@mankeil4468 you don’t drive here…ofc you’ll cry. If it was that hard you problem didn’t need to know
@@bigbk3278 This is one of the stupidest things I've read all month
I go this route all the time to get into Cincinnati for work =) That idea they had was great. The original ramp was a death trap
Used it many times as well, and the old iteration. Its definitely much safer and more interesting now
The real problem is 75 and 71 are two lanes each there. And the speed limit is 55 and there is sharp turn
I drive this every day and it's still a death trap. Nobody pays attention to the signs so you have people weaving from one side of the road to the other, all going anywhere from 55 to 75 mph because nobody pays attention to the speed limit either.
I was trying to figure out if this was Cincinnati or not!
I was wondering where this was since he didn't say. My guess was Pittsburgh, but Cincinnati makes sense too
This incredibly animated and cool sign at the start of the video was gone unnoticed in the whole comment section and idk why
I didn't notice it the first time, because it was too damn good
I noticed it, but only because I hate the font that was used.
@@Vahlee-A wait 'till you find out what font the actual sign next to it uses
Wow it’s nice
@@Junimeek- I'm a Highway Gothic / Interstate girl all day.
Wow, those lane configurations in the new project are crazy.
“One more lane bro, I swear it’ll fix traffic!”
This may be a "small fix", but it ironically showcases just how much more space cars take up than other modes of transportation.
Solution?
@@Bagel_Chip Legalize apartments. Add mass transit. Allow corner stores. Separate cars and foot/bike traffic. Tax the rich.
Apartments are legal?
Corner stores are allowed?
Building trains needs money that's going to funding wars
Income is taxed
We should separate foot/bike traffic from car traffic
@FrostyButter
@@FrostyButter ideally great realistically not. At least in the near future. Hopefully this will be possible once policy changes
@@sal-the-man Yes, changing policies specifically to solve the problem is what I'm advocating.
5th Street Covington Ky ramp to 75 North/71 North. I'm a truck driver and years ago I had to deal with this 5 days a week with a semi truck. I would have to enter the ramp and immediately have to cut across 2 lanes to get on 75 North. With a car it's possible but in a semi it's very dangerous, I would have to push my truck into the other lanes to get over. I did that route for a year before I got another route.
Had this problem too. I always took the next exit and turned around
And people around there are douchebags so even if you signal they won't let you over
Similar to the bridge across the K River in Charleston WV. . Very unsafe.
You almost need a pistol to drive in these metropolitan areas as I too am a truck driver and it can sometimes be difficult to get over especially if you're in the far left lane
Me too brother. I'm retireded now but I did this same bridge many times. I'm from the sunny side of the derby and I had to deal with spaghetti junction every day before I headed to cincy.roll on .😊
This type of exit and junction merging is super common lol
The original set up looked fine and was long enough to work. The drivers in the main lanes just need to be courteous and allow merges during heavy traffic hours.
@MoneyManHolmes agreed people are aholes ive never had a problem using them myself i hate having to go a nonsense way to get somewhere
Classic American issue this is
@@MoneyManHolmes”just needed to be courteous” yeah right man what fantasy world do you live in
right?? I have to change 2 lanes in less than a mile everyday, it's just part of driving in cities
Damn bro would you look at all that efficiency.
Or lack thereof lol
Saving lives is always efficient.
@@randomone4832you mean, like using buses, trams and other viable alternatives to driving, as to reduce the amount cars that can crash on the roads?
yeah, that would indeed be efficient.
@@TheDZHEX Baby steps, my friend.
@@randomone4832 I feel like painting a bus lane is about as baby as a step can get 😅
I’ve driven this bridge maybe 4 times and it still immediately stuck out when you began describing the issue. It was stressful every time even if I wasn’t changing lanes
*Laughs in PTSD from Pittsburgh’s bridge chaos*
Lol, this is so tame compared to the ft Pitt bridge
In Ottawa drivers merging from highway 416 onto westbound highway 417 to take Moodie Drive used to have less than 1 km to cross four lanes of traffic. Now traffic on 416 heading for Moodie Drive is diverted onto Holly Acres Road, passing under the 417 before joining it on the right hand side. It's a little slower and less direct, but far safer.
The best part of it was what they did with the on ramp that’s right before the one they closed. It used to merge over and was a major point of congestion. People would pass in the left lanes and then have to get over to the right for the exits to 71N and downtown.
But since they closed the exit in the short, they could extend this other on ramp so that it continued into its own lane, getting rid of the merge and the congestion. Now it’s more beneficial to already be in the right lanes before you get to the bridge.
Every Cloverleaf in existence 🗿🗿🗿🗿
It would work tough if people weren't dumb. It works all the time in germany with much shorter on- and offramps on the autobahn
Exactly. And if you really need too make it safer you can use a concrete barrier to separate the on/off-ramp lanes and slow down traffic that's merging.
That prevents people from flying through multiple lanes of traffic and reduces the speed at which people navigate the merge.
Bad road manners and (lacking) driver education?
German heritage Australian 😊
Yeah I don't understand why this was closed, we have plenty of on & off ramps here in Texas far closer to each other than that with traffic lights crazy close to the exit & we make it work just fine with hella traffic 😂
Meanwhile in germany this is pretty normal and the lanes to switch are often times much shorter...
True, sis...😂🏳️⚧️
Grüße aus Australien 🇦🇺🙋🏼♀️🇩🇪
Same in Texas, this explanation makes little to no sense
yes but you forget us drivers are not germans.
@@ronblack7870 nobody expects the German inquisition!
In Derby, UK, we have loads of entrance ramps that become exit ramps and they feel so dangerous although I've never heard of a crash on them. I think we might be going at a slower speed but they look much shorter than this bridge
First time meeting someone from Derby UK on RUclips. Hello!
The ring-road is usually a mess but yes, we drive slow.
Yeah this set up is super common on clover leaf interchanges and here in Luxembourg those are used on some very very traffic heavy parts. Yet I never seen or had a problem with them, everyone just slows down lol
This is my hometown and a lot of people find it really frustrating that we have to drive a mile backwards just to get on the northbound highway
I'm sorry. I don't even like driving through there. What a cluster. You people live there and still don't know what lane to be in.
Interesting how germany doesn't seem to have such problems on the highways (Autobahn). The only example in germany that is roughly like the american Highway may be the so called yellow Autobahn (country road with seperate lanes 2x2 or more) e.g. B17 or B36 roads.
I would like you to evaluate on some other international examples (pros, cons and your suggestions for a safer/better locomotion. Love your videos 👍
Americans can't plan roads
This is in Cincinnati btw. Also I always wondered what that ramp was for I assumed it was for highway staff personnel since it was always blocked off when I was heading to work through there.
I was just about to say how this looks like Cincy.
Google Maps shows that the ramp was still open as recently as July 2022. So you haven't lived in Cincinnati very long if it was always blocked off for as long as you've known about it.
When I lived in Sacramento I was north of the American River and my workplace was south of it. My route on I-5 had me merge onto the highway just before it crossed the river and exit just after. I was able to get into the onramp and stay in the extra lane the entire time, without having to touch traffic. It was awesome.
From Richards to J Street?
@@richardvincent3680 Garden Highway to Richards. I worked in West Sac and lived in Natomas, so I would take Jibbon, across the drawbridge, and that road would lead right to my workplace.
Funny enough this is how driving from UC to downtown cincinnati is (which is on i71 near this videos interchange)
Sometimes removing on ramps or even entire interchanges along freeway corridors can sometimes actually improve freeway traffic.
Not in this case. The population of the greater Cincinnati area stuck on the Kentucky side of the Ohio river is way bigger than the bridges were designed to handle. During the rush hours, crossing this bridge can take 2+ hours. I’ve waited in dead stop gridlock traffic all the way from the bridge to Florence, KY. Approximately a 12 mile distance according to google maps. The problem is that in this area, I-75 is both one of the busiest interstates in the region for interstate travel, as well as the best way for commuters to cross the river before and after work.
@@Natediggetydog you're also forgetting that both i-75 and I-71 share the same bridge too.
Having two major downtown interchanges placed less than 1/2 mile apart doesn't help either.
At the end of the day you can either solve a bottle neck problem by turning it into a water glass or a test tube.
One more lane LETS GOOOOO!!!
Wait till you see the new bridge plan! They’re adding like 8 more 😂
The real problem is people not knowing how to drive
This unironically helped me remember the original purpose of the new bridge that's being built like one city over from where I live. It's been in the works for YEARS but then due to budgeting issues followed by the pandemic construction was pretty much at a halt until mid 2021 when it picked up speed and now it's almost done but construction has been so long I 100% forgot why they were building a new bridge to replace the current one but that little animation shows pretty much the exact situation thats currently happening (including the shapes of the bridges, damn) and suddenly the construction makes a lot more sense to me. Somehow it didn't occur to me that one of the main issues with the bridge right now is that for one part of the lanes, I think its travelling northbound, you have to get into a left turn lane if you want to get on the bridge and go east, and a completely different left turn lane to go west, while southbound drivers have the right turn lane. This is all run by two different traffic light intersections, and cars heading west coming from the bridge can turn to go north or south at one of the traffic lights, while drivers heading east exit before the bridge and have freedom to turn north or south at the other traffic light. Basically northbound drivers are the only ones who have to sit in a left turn lane to get on the ramps for either east or west. With the new bridge, northbound drivers will have their own on ramp, and thats as much as I can recall at the moment, because Waze and Google Maps learned about the on ramp a few months ago and keep trying to redirect me to use the ramp to get on the bridge, even though the ramp will just lead me to an active construction site paired with probably falling into the river.
Pittsburgh bridges give a lot less time to pick a lane. That city sucks at driving.
Certainly does, especially if one is going outbound.
Pittsburgh has some of the lightest traffic out of all the major cities I work in, but the roads are such bullshit to navigate that it ends up taking just as long. One missed road adds 20 minutes.
I literally came here for this comment i live in Pittsburgh and I’m like we do this everyday and we have like 200 yards to figure out. Like if you’re coming from 376 to go to 28 you change 8 different lanes in about a mile.
Good ol' Fort Duquesne Bridge
Yeah they were explaining the problem at the beginning of the video and all I could think was "I do this every day with way less time, what's the problem?"
Dallas ramps do this all the time. They have ramps upon ramps merging into more ramps. If you are not comfortable changing 2 or 3 lanes at a time in heavy traffic, you won’t do well in Dallas
Amen, brother. Pedal to the metal like you're racing out of pit lane.
Try most ring-roads in most UK cities… that weaving, entry-lane-is-next-exit-lane nonsense is literally every junction, sometimes just 50 yards apart. It’s a nightmare
I call them cheater lanes. There's always a pack of cars racing down the lane to try getting ahead in congested traffic.
@@randgrithr7387if people didn’t insist of driving like selfish assholes, it wouldn’t be a problem. I’ll be so happy when most vehicles are autonomous. There are many where I live, and they drive so much better than most humans.
The engineer that originally designed the exit must have graduated at the bottom of his class
3 billion for a bridge? I wonder how much of that will go into lining the pockets of the city counsel.
The money probably went to the same place as all of the BLM money and the defund the police money and all of the other social movement money.
$0. bridges are just expensive
@@cowfat8547 The golden gate bridge cost 667 million accounting for inflation and was one of the largest bridge projects in our country. I find it nigh impossible that a bridge there would cost 3 billion.
That does seem a lot for a fairly short bridge. The replacement FSK bridge is projected to cost 1.9 bn and that's longer.
@@justsomebeanznow did you study what diff material they make it with
They have so many of these terrible exits here in Massachusetts. It makes no sense!!!
Those same drivers would meltdown on Houston’s roadways 😅
That's all Texas especially.. in and on San Antonio and Dallas
BUT New York and LI and New Jersey those three are on a completely different level and universe
They have a whole bridge length to make the swap. Look at all the mini cloverleafs in MN where you have a couple hundred feet to do the same
The safest distance between two points isn't always a straight line.
Exactly. Some offramps are curvy for this reason - they're frequented by trucks that need the extra distance to slow down.
I have been a truck driver for 30 years, this stretch of i-75 through Cincinnati has been under construction in one spot or another for the entire time. There is also a similar stretch around Dayton, no matter what they've done how much they've upgraded or what they've changed, they always have something else to do when they finish with that
Americans do anything but avoid investing in public transport
Honestly with how bad suburban sprawl is here there’s no fixing it. Americans are so divided they’ll never uniformly agree to improve cities here. Cities are starting to catch on but the damage suburban sprawl, NIMBYs and “muh freedom” has done will be extremely difficult to undo
And you'll do anything to avoid typing out original comments lmao
How exactly do you expect to get public transport everywhere in a place as large as the US?
Use your brain. Look at a map and compare the size of any of our states to one of these "enlightened" countries with public transport. Sheep.
yeah because public transport sucks
@@cowfat8547…because americans do anything but invest in public transport
The same reason why classic ‘cloverleaf’ intersections are more dangerous
Can Americans not drive ? This was a perfectly normal junction 🤷♂️
Normally it would be fine, but the bridge in question sucks.
The reasons why is simple. It 75 and 71, two major highways, share a bridge that goes directly into downtown Cincinnati, Ohio. Worst, 71 imminently split after getting of the bridge, AND there a normal exit basically at the same time. All this leads it to be consider one of the worst congested area in the US (it rank as high as 2nd by truckers in 2021). So having to cross 2+ lanes of traffic isnt really safe if you are on it during rush hour.
You wouldn’t understand unless you’ve driven on it during rush hour. The bridge gets a ton of out of town vacationers going up to Ohio/down to Kentucky. That being said, the drivers who have never been on the bridge and don’t know its flaws cutting 4 lanes over combined with ass to ass traffic = a dangerous congested mess
Leaving not enough room between cars, tailgating and aggressively cutting off people, in short, BAD road manners are surely a major component of the problem... 😕
It's getting worse here in north Queensland, too, more southern suburbanites that don't care
Bad road manners are a major factor
You should see the on and exit ramps in Germany on the Autobahns. There's a 30/40m length of lane we're both oncoming and offgoing cars have to filter simultaneously through.
Same exact layout in one particular area on a Houston freeway and yes it's extremely chaotic, and the one in Houston has a shorter distance to be able to get over before the merge lane turns to exit. Nobody wants to let you over, which causes more traffic because you just sit there with the blinker on holding up people behind you who need to exit.
i was just going to comment this. its so chaotic it used to stress me out when i was a new driver.
It's like this in Austin too, those ramps definitely aren't "too close to each other" lmfao
I used that section of hwy daily. I never had problems. Pay attention people and we won’t have traffic jams!
This is the Brent Spence Bridge from Covington, KY heading north across the Ohio River into Cincinnati. In the old configuration with the ramp open, this bridge afforded is users approximately 2700 get, or .5 miles, to make it across 4 lanes of traffic. The new configuration with the turnaround gives them about 5200 feet, or approximately one mile, to accomplish the same task. At highway speeds, that's approximately 30 seconds the old way, about 50 seconds to a minute now.
Compare this to the Fort Pitt Bridge crossing the Monongahela River in Pittsburgh, where the Ohio River starts about 1500 feet downstream from. If you enter the Fort Pitt Bridge going north into the city from W. Carson Street on the South side of the river, you run into the same problem, except you have only 1000 feet and about 12 seconds to figure it out. This is also a bridge on a U.S. interstate, btw. Oh, and if you're going south coming from US-28 or the North Shore, it's the same issue in the opposite direction. God forbid you start from the Boulevard of the Allies ramp, cause you have to start at a full stop before proceeding across the same bridge. Cincy couldn't handle it if they tried.
Facts
Not to mention the visibility at this particular bridge!
This is the Newport-Cincinnati Ohio bridge, I've been to a couple Bengals and Reds games where we had to go through this route, The crashes really did decrease!
Is this in Cincinnati Ohio and Kentucky border?
Yes it is! From someone that lives in Cincinnati
When I saw it was 75 I was trying to figure out if I knew where it was! Thanks for confirming Cincy/KY!
This is on the Kentucky side in Covington.
It’s not the ramp that’s dangerous. It’s the aggressive drivers.
Imagine all the things that could be done for the people of that city with $3.6 billion.
What ought to be done with it is addressing the fact that _that_ bridge is one of the most dangerous bridges in the country, while also being the primary means of travel across the Ohio River for thousands daily. It needs to be addressed before it becomes a disaster.
nothing better really than fixing an extremely important piece of infrastructure
@@cowfat8547 fixing is missing a lot of quotations there
It’s not gonna build a long Transit system so dont be that dense
@@cowfat8547It doesn't. The 3.6 are for the bridge that just hotfixes an existing issue without removing it.
I see absolutely no issue with the distance to perform this lane change safely. This is a frequent occurence here in Germany, when 3 Autobahnen meet. One example is Kreuz Kaiserberg, where from A59 you can enter A40 but use the same entrance onto A40 to leave for A3.
Reduce speed, check mirrors, change lanes?! People expect lane changes in these areas and drive accordingly careful 😅
I don't know how it's done in Germany, but in Netherlands, only certified driving instructors can teach you how to drive, and only in a car with dual controls, and only if you're past 18 years of age (well, actually 16, but you won't get the license before 18). And usually manual. In US, any auntie and uncle Bob driving in a beat-up Buick with worn-off tires and smoking engine can give "driving lessons" to teenagers who can get a license from 16 years. The result is that the roads have to be bigger, wider, longer, just so that these distracted kids don't kill themselves too much.
Here in the Netherlands, weave lanes are a normal thing, you do your observations, identify a gap, equalize speed to other traffic, mirror, signal, maneuver, inside mirror, turn off signal, done. Oftentimes you even do a little "shuffle" with other cars as each of you speeds up (or lets go of gas) and both drivers change lanes simultaneously. It always looks and feels super cool, like dancing in a car.
Mate, this lane crisscross happens over Sydney Harbour every day. What's the problem?
last time i was on this bridge, there was an accident in the middle of it, so i (along with many others) used that exact ramp (before it was closed) to escape the mess. glad to see that the routing has been changed and accidents reduced. i've been on that bridge innumerable times and it can be a nightmare with all the merging going on....
I used to use this ramp quite often, and it was convenient for me because I was heading for I-71 anyway and I could just stay in that right lane.
I thought it was the one from the meme, and they had to close it because everyone kept drifting intentionally to match the meme
Or, hear me out. Spend the money on a BUS or a TRAIN that takes up less space and carries more people.
And yes, I am aware that the bridge is old and needs to be replaced. Perfect opportunity to build rail and bus lanes directly into it!
this is the same city that spent 148 million$ on a streetcar that barely traverses a few blocks of downtown
This is 'Murrikuh. You'd have better luck convincing way too many people to smoke from the tailpipes on the highway than convincing them of the merits of mass transit. 😒
Sounds like communist bullshit. Anyways Stelaris needs another bailout or I won’t be able to buy a 2025 ram 3 billion Laredo 6x6 king cab deluxe
@@alexphelps7042they’re going to bailout a company that is only 33% American?
You can spend all the money you want, but people have made their decision, they choose to drive by car.
A highway like this is primarily meant to get one through a city, not around it. Therefore, comparing it to the bus or train, which is quite different, lacks sense.
Yes, they take up space, but America is not like Europe. America invented the notion of a "road trip." Few nations are as well connected as America is, despite its size. Getting around the country by bus or train is not as practical.
You should do a video about the I-65/I-70 interchange in downtown Indianapolis next. It had a very similar problem.
I-65N turns West to continue, and I-70E crosses through it to continue East.
It used to be that traffic wishing to stay on their current interstate had to change lanes to the opposite side of the interchange, otherwise they'd end up on the opposite interstate (I-65 lanes turned into I-70 and vise versa)
Recently there was a huge project to rebuild the interchange so that staying in your lane would keep you on your current interstate. They built a crossover at the end of the interchange to accomplish this.
It's much more intuitive now with far less dangerous traffic ballet.
The Michigan left, but to the right.
I26 (west i think, although its going east over the bridge) going over the french broad in Asheville forces you to cross all lanes while on the bridge. Ive seen some great dashcam vids from there, hope someone fixes that whole mess.
u know i never had a problem with the original ramp really 🤷🏾♀️ been driving it for years
Seems like there was plenty of time for drivers to get on and over. They were probably waiting for the last minute to merge
They should keep it open strictly for emergency vehicles. The question is how to set it up so other cars can't use it.
The bridge connects Cincinnati, OH to Covington, KY. There aren't too many emergency vehicles traveling between states.
I used to take that entrance ramp all the time, I was wondering why they closed it. The Brent Spence bridge is always a mess, especially between 3-6 pm
Perfect, it only adds another 10 min to the commute. I love it
Just south of Salt Lake City, where I-15 southbound merges onto I-215 eastbound, there's a merging situation 50x worse than this. The cars from I-15 southbound merge into the left side of I-215 eastbound the same time that an offshoot of I-15 northbound merges into the right side. To make my exit, I have to merge on the far left lane, across 4 lanes of traffic into the far right lane while everyone else is also merging in every direction. Please make a video on it because it's an absolute nightmare
“Build a new bridge, reduce congestion”
Words of a gambler.
Just waiting for that induced demand
So you are telling me drivers in USA don't know how to drive.
Right? Here in europe you see this on/off lanes all the time
Drivers in USA don't know how to change lanes or allow lane changes, no. Ohio, where this is, is of all the places in the US that I've lived the one where people are most likely to cooperate with you if you're signaling for a lane change. But still, I frequently had to drive through a weave like that except a mile long and not on a bridge (in Columbus, Ohio), and it was kind of harrowing.
Did you find this ramp easier than stated when you used it before judging?
Our driving tests are a joke and lawdy-lawdy does it _show_ .
Yah dont stop in that area to get gas. Lots of thugs hanging out, its wild.
I've had to use the ramp that they closed and I couldn't safely merge and nobody would let me over with enough space to be safe. I ended up being *forced* off the highway at the exit it fed into. I was so rattled that even though it took 45 minutes more, I drove surface roads the entire rest of the way. And let me tell too, what makes the existing bridge even more dangerous is that it's a heroin bridge. Beginning with the exit after that one, the next 10 or so exits are used by people crossing the river to go cop their next fix. So, between 9 AM & 11 AM, you have people in withdraw headed northbound just wanting to stop being sick and not in a place yet where compulsory treatment would be effective/affective (I get the usage of the 2 mixed up). Going south, they've had their fix. From then to roughly 11 PM, traffic both ways has had some measure of intoxicating substances. That makes the bridge even more dangerous because our reaction times are elongated. Yes, "our". As of 16 June 2024, I had 7 years clean of heroin and sober of alcohol and as of 11 October '24, it's still true and I've been fortunate to have sufficient support to have not had a single relapse in all that time. So, I know what I'm talking about because I'm talking from personal knowledge and experience. My one dealer put a 60% down payment on a BMW, so you tell me how big a problem that is with this bridge because that's just 1 dealer. I met another one that paid off a Mustang. Granted, this is a separate problem from what this short is addressing. However, think of how many lives are saved by having more time to get over to the lane you need. How many people have a chance to get help as a result. How many innocents made it home to their families because this 4th Street ramp closed and rerouted traffic to a U-turn at the 12th Street ramp. I don't drive the interstate anymore. It turns out that the drugs were masking my panic. I get panic attacks on the interstate sober. So, I now only use non-interstate routes. This short shows Covington, Ky and the bridge to Cincinnati, Ohio, near where the Bengals stadium is. I've had to drive from Covington to Lexington, Ky and from Covington to Frankfort, Ky. I had to drive the surface roads, US-27 & US-25 to the subsequent turns. Leaving around 7 AM, I didn't get home either time before 5 PM. But I did it sober and I did it safe.
I know that this reroute has had a positive impact on so many, so I applaud the city for finally doing something useful. This is my 2 cents worth. I hope my words have value to someone
That’s one of the most interesting and detailed comments I’ve ever read. Congrats on your 7 years. Keep the streak going!
Interesting personal insight, thanks.
And good for you with the 7 years, keep it up buddy, you're doing great!
Congrats on 7 years man :)
Always the next day, and the next year. Goodonya! 🇦🇺🙋🏼♀️🇺🇸
wow that's a lot of writing
The "problem ramp" is a great example of just how bad most drivers really are.
If people would let other cars merge/change lanes as needed, the original ramp would have worked fine
Cost efficient for who? Not the vehicle owners. You have to do that twice a day everyday… and that distance on wear and tear, fuel, tires etc all adds up.
Be positive about things
Pish tosh. Two extra minutes of commute each way, four total. You're telling me vehicle owners feel angst about an extra four minutes of driving? Is it possible you're mis-imagining this scenario so you can be a grouchypants on the Internet?
I'm going to disagree with you on this one. As a driver, a couple extra miles for safety is a good thing! Now, could those lanes be better marked? That's the question! Pretty sure I've been on this bridge and it is a nightmare trying to make sure you are in the correct lane - and that is even if you are coming from the rest of the highway and not merging on!
Extra half a mile of driving or risking your whole car getting totalled by someone panic merging? Tough call
@@Radi0he4d1 the state is to cheap to rebuild the rode properly
I live in Cincinnati and work in Kentucky and haven't gone over the Brent Spence Bridge for at least 20 years. It is a hair raising stretch. Glad to know about this improvement, but will continue to go a few extra miles to cross the Big Mac.
"We put up a 'Closed' sign on the highway."
"How much did it cost?"
"9 million dollars."
Government "efficiency" in a nutshell!
That was not for the signs. That was for expanding the frontage road, adding the u-turn under the southern bridge. That also required modifying the bridge.
@@traffic.engineer User name checks out. 🤣
Didn’t he just say they create another turnaround?💀 That’s obviously what the 9 million dollars are for
"We pretended far more wasn't stated to service our point"
*Interstate 75 northbound from Covington, KY to Cincinnati, OH. WHO-DEY! Traveling from London, KY to the Bengals game this weekend!*
Bro, just another lane, Bro.
“it was just 9 million dollars” 😭😭😭
This is unfortunately one of those times where me as a selfish human would be mad if I knew this had been available and was closed and instead I had to drive a mile back around first EVEN KNOWING ITS SAFER. Human brains just aren’t worth having. 😂
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Maybe the US should not invest money in such nonsense projects, but in the real problem. The problem here is not a bad ramp. In Germany, these lanes are very normal and no problem at all. The real problem is that most Americans cannot drive a car properly. In Germany you need a long and expensive training to get a driving license. In the US you just have to know how to start and speed up a car. This is the real problem!
Why do I enjoy this channel so much
California is notorious for design fails like this. Designing off-ramps connected to on-ramps using the same lane with less than a half a block to make your decision and play chicken with cars getting on or off the highway is the norm. It's maddening 🤬
In St. Louis, we have a on-ramp to the highway that becomes an offramp from the highway in like 300 feet. It teaches you how to merge real quick.
$9 million dollars to block a ramp. Typical America pocketing the money. I mean there's already a road there for that diversion so where on Earth did the money go?
to build the road for the diversion
This is Cincinnati/Northern Ky. This change has been a huge help.
Look at that mess of ramps on the new bridge..
this wont reduce ANYTHING!
Believe it or not, the original planned design had like twice the land footprint, and local opposition managed to get it reduced to something relatively compact. In any case, this is a very rare situation where SOME kind of highway expansion is actually necessary. This is a massive choke point for commercial trucks that are transporting goods between the South and the Midwest, and the Brent Spence Bridge was not designed for the level of traffic it currently carries.
@@fawfulfan- thats why they should have better train access and public transportation.
Yes, all of the truck traffic should get on a train instead!
@@fawfulfan So instead of trying to reduce the amount of trucks and cars they AGAIN just try to make the roads bigger and wider..
In this case its just a little bit less shit than usual but still shit
has never worked and will never work!
the "mess" of ramps is a thing of beauty...connecting multiple different roads so elegantly in a single interchange
I'm WAYYYY more blown away by the fact that 9 million is ONLY 0.2% of 3.2 Billion.
Just invest those money in building alternatives to cars lol
"one more lane"
You pay for it
@@Distress.Everyone even non drivers are already paying for car infrastructure LOL. So I’ll gladly redirect that money to better transit and you will too
@@Distress. yeah, you do too, thats what taxes are for, public projects
@@Dicaso9 yeah and that money has already been allocated to improving this bridge which already sees more use that even the rosiest transit ridership estimates. So you'd have to raise taxes to build your new transit network. That's why urbanist keep whining on RUclips calling everyone NIMBYs
Thats exactly what they did in Mobile Alabama. There was a on ramp that would take you to the entrance of the Wallace Tunnel from Downtown Mobile and this was a quick merge lane and would cause east bound traffic to back up for miles, or cause accidents. The on ramp was closed, and a turn around was created a mile away west on Texas St for traffic to turn around and get back on east bound I10.
was looking for this!
$9 million for closing a ramp with a couple of road barriers? That’s some serious money laundering.
And yet the tax payers keep shoveling them money, like coal into a furnace.
That was not for the ramp closure. That was for expanding the frontage road, adding the u-turn under the southern bridge. That also required modifying the bridge.
Any reason you're acting like that's all that was done?
@@zydration3538 because that’s all that was shown in the video
The original design describes every exit in on the highway I drive to work. The traffic created by people getting on the highway trying to swap places with people getting off the highway is insane and I see near-accidents almost every day.
So instead of properly teaching people to drive they're going to waste time, money and energy on a "fix"?
Sounds about right
The crashes were reduced because the traffic was reduced everyone takes a different route now because they have to drive so much farther
The US car dependance is stupid and on top, the drivers are driving very bad.
Sorry that the entirety of middle Europe could fit in the United States, stupid European
It's not just an American problem - Canada, Mexico & Brazil are just as car dependent. And car dependency is what makes drivers worse. Because of the simple fact that you need a car to actively participate in society, even people who can barely drive are given a license.
The US is car dependent for a reason. A single US state is the size of a European country. The rural population of the US is 2/3rds the population of the UK. People often travel between cities all the time with the exception of some major metropolises, but they already have plenty of public transportation.
Furthermore, most Americans have complex schedules, with different time requirements and constraints that public transportation can hinder or not allow at all. It's not a viable solution with how massive and diverse our country is.
@@Bako751The European mind can't comprehend a solution that doesn't involve some sort of restriction on individual freedoms.
@@Bako751
Yeah a lot of people drive every morning from Texas to Vegas for their job. I will believe you. Wake up man. You even drive 0.5 Miles to the grocery store….
Your City’s could be more compact, with less parking lots or underground parking. So with less car dependency, the distances were a lot shorter.
Trains and High speed rail could be a good alternative instead of driving (or standing in traffic jam) 3 hours to the next City. All that would cost a fractions of the Roads you build.
In my Country, there are people driving every work-day 140 miles by train (1 hour by train or 3 hours by car… your choice)
But in America there ist no choice… its kinda ridiculous that you even talk about “freedom”
A train ticket for the whole year costs $5000 and can be co-funded by your employer.
I thought this was the old onramp from Water St to I-10 East in Mobile at first. That uses almost the exact same solution, replacing an incredibly tight and short onramp that fed into the tight right curve leading down into the Wallace tunnel with a turnaround on the next interchange back.
There's a freeway junction near me that was built the same way; a N/S US Route briefly jogs over to E/W for a couple miles where it meets an E/W State Highway. Traffic on the N/S has to merge from the far left lane to the far right lane to stay on their route, and E/W traffic has to do the opposite from right to left. In only 2 miles, 4 lanes (2 per each route entering the junction) shrink down to 3, so it always backs up.
There's enough hill at either end that they could have built it so that N/S route comes under/over the E/W and enters from the right so that through traffic on both routes doesn't have to merge, but that is not what they went with.
One time on 95 in Connecticut. I believe it's a Junction with 81. They redid it a few years ago, and the left lane exit became a right lane exit, and I missed it. So I got off at the very next exit, and it was the easiest, go up the ramp cross over the bridge and go back down and onto the highway. The recovery was so easy it felt planned. Now I think it was😊
"Sir, why are you in vegas today?"
"Well, i missed my offramp somewhere near east LA."
i was really confused why it was dangerous but then realized the bridge
This bridge is located between Cincinnati Ohio and Kentucky, it’s the bridge that connects the 2 states, it started off as a 3-lane bridge, but as population grew, they got rid of the break down lanes and made it a narrow 4 lane bridge. The new bridge will be connecting one highway, and the other will connect with the second highway
Only cost $9 million dollars. To make up for people’s total inability to DRIVE… 🤦♂️
That section over the bridge leading to the quad interchange at the bottom of the city is insane.
Somehow I knew this was Cincinnati. They have pretty iconic bridge lane arrangements
Detroit is like the first part but every single highway, the stretch of i-96 between M-5 and M-39 kills hundreds of people a year just because its so brutal. Travels at 96 or 9.6 but I like to rip it