@@TaunTaunTundra4477Rise of The Machines is a different time line more linked to TSCC as are the others apart from Dark Fate that is a direct continuation of the 1984, T2 time line...... in all cases SKYNET / LEGEON(maybe an earlier version of SKYNET or created by SKYNET in the past and just laying dormant in a factory computer system) is searching for the best way of killing the human race by going thought different time options....
@@TaunTaunTundra4477the 3rd film isn't a bad movie. It's just a bad Terminator movie. It undermines the premise of the first two movies. Also, The Sarah Connor Chronicles is very good.
what's Part 2???? do you mean Terminator 2?? because if you consider that to be canon you also have to watch "dark fate" immediately after; that's Jame's Cameron's rule's not mine, he helped write dark fate unlike all the other movies. Dark Fate is the official ending to John Connor's story after the conclusion of T2 - that is by James Cameron's word.
That's such a brilliant and profound piece of storytelling by James Cameron. I still like this movie more than T2 because I think it's smarter and better written.
it was also a scene where Sarah looks up Cyberdyne Systems, and tells Kyle to make the pipe bombs to blow up Cyberdyne before it creates the "molecular memory". In another deleted scene, a piece of the terminator is found by workers at the factory which they'll send to Research and Development later, and when the police go the name of the factory turns out to be Cyberdyne Systems, making the Terminator also the "parent" of Skynet, like Kyle is the "parent" of John.
@@marauderdz the second of the two deleted scenes I mentioned earlier is the only reveal that the factory the terminator was crushed in was also cyberdyne systems
When Kyle Reese first appeared in the alley in 1984, his stunt double had to fall about 7 or 8 feet from an elevated platform while on his side falling right onto the concrete cement. Actor Michael Biehn (Reese) was astounded at the bravery of his stunt double.
"A movie was $4.50???" Nah. The average price of a movie ticket in 1984 was $3.36. As for the self-surgery scene in the hotel room, they did indeed use an animatronic Arnold-head for several of those shots. Good eye (pun intended)! If you haven't already looked it up, Mothballs are a repellant used to discourage the common clothes moth from flying into your closet/attic/wherever and laying eggs. The larvae eat a variety of animal-based fabrics, like silk, wool, felt, etc. Mothballs also became a slang-term for storing something away for later, or discontinuing it. One last thing. When Kyle mentions the photograph of Sarah that John had given him, he says that he always wondered what she was thinking in that moment. As we see at the end when the photo is taken, she was actually thinking about him. Fantastic reaction, as always. Can't wait for you to watch Terminator 2!
I remember seeing this at a Saturday matinee for $2. As a teen at the time my buddy and I went every week. The mid 80s had a lot of incredible movies and we saw all of them with paper route money.
The song was a hit in the US just a month or so before the movie came out, so probably a combination. Helped too by Miami Vice hitting TV at exactly the same time, making Ray-Bans the must-have accessory for all the Don Johnson wannabes.
Arnold Schwarzenegger has starred in 3 James Cameron movies, and Bill Paxton has appeared in 4, appearing together in 2 of them - The Terminator, and hysterically in True Lies. Paxton also had a very tiny role in the movie Commando starring Arnold, bringing their total count of movies together to 3.
@@thedragonlee76is she Hispanic? Is she Irish? Is she Hispanic again? (Sorry, that was Michelle Rodriguez, an actually Hispanic person, in Resident Evil 😂).
I had forgotten some of the little details, like the fact that Ahnuld doesn't have eyebrows after he was set on fire by the car exploding next to him. As for your idea of "getting rid of the people who created him"... that's an incredibly good idea. ;)
My favourite part, and a sad fact, is when Kyle said that he always wondered what Sarah was thinking at that moment in the picture. And she was thinking in Kyle during that tape record. Lovers across time....
Arnold himself has said that they thought they had a good movie, but it was too niche for mainstream. They didn't dream it would hit it big like it did. This film was made on a budget even smaller than what TV movies usually get, even by 1984 dollars. Also: When Sarah accidently hits the switch on the crusher on the way in, she remembers, that's why she can hit it without really looking at it later. Great reaction, the first two Terminators are great movies.
I read somewhere that this movie was not meant to be this big, it was planned to be one of the Beyond Belief: Fact or Fiction series parts, but i cannot google it out anywhere...
Almost noindependent small budget movie does as great business . I'm also guessing even Jim Cameron was surprised it was as big a hit because I think all he did before was the Piranha sequel .
At one point Arnold returned to the set of Conan (or a sequel, I don’t remember which Conan movie) to reshoot a few scenes, and somebody asked him what he was doing now, when not reshooting Conan scenes. He replied “Oh, I’m doing some shitty little movie…” So yeah, it’s safe to say that he had no idea it was going to be a hit or make him a star.
The cops were investigating an electrical disturbance, then saw some naked man stealing a homeless guy’s pants-The man ran then overpowered a cop. That seems self-explanatory enough for me.
I see nothing wrong with this. My parents basically let me watch whatever and I was fine. They instilled into me at a young age how to separate movies/shows from reality. Once that was drilled into me, virtually nothing bothered me on the silver screen or on tv. But when I'd watch documentaries or news stories and something bad would happen it would absolutely bother me. Never got nightmares or anything though.. One movie that I absolutely made a mistake of watching was Arachnophobia. BIGGEST MISTAKE OF MY LIFE! 🤣😂
I believe that Arnold's breakout role was "Hercules in New York" (1970), though I'm pretty sure what got him this job was his role in "Conan the Barbarian" (1982), two years before this. Conan showed that he actually could act ... at least a little. lol
Conan was his breakout role, but Terminator made him a legend. In the movie business, there are those one roles/movies after which you can do complete garbage and it wont matter. It didn't hurt that he did even more legendary things like T2, Predator, etc.
Hercules in New York was Arnold's first theatrical acting role in a traditional narrative movie... it was NOT his "breakout" role.. breakout role usually signifies the role that made an actor into a big name recognized by most people or even a star... Hercules in New York was a comically bad low-budget film that nobody saw in which Arnold's accent was deemed to be so indecipherable that all of his lines were dubbed. He had an uncredited cameo in The Long Goodbye after that.. and small roles in a few other movies... but the first time he had a major role that made him recognizable as a movie star was as Conan the Barbarian. Terminator definitely solidified him as a star, though. However, it's arguable that Arnold's breakout role actually came 3 years before he started making Hollywood movies, when he appeared prominently in the documentary Pumping Iron - about he and others training for the Mr. Olympia competition.
The scene with the Punks was filmed at Griffith Park Observatory. Big Buns was at Bob's Big Boy, now Carrow's in South Pasadena. The Gun Shop was in Van Nuys as was the Biker phone booth. "The Terminator" and "Sunglasses at Night" song were both released in 1984.
While he wasn't at the station, probably due to being in the hospital with a concussion, a fun fact for you. In Terminator 2, the guy with the camera who was in shock at Arnold being thrown through the window is the cop he stole the car from in Terminator 1. It's why the cops figured out everything so quickly back in the 90s. Further why that one character looked so shocked. He thought he was looking at the man that killed 30 of his friends nearly a decade before.
@@williambryan3346 Technically that's as assumption, we don't know for certainly that 30 cops were in the building at that exact moment. Only that at one point in time early that night it was implied that there was 30 cops. My assumption is a lot of cops were out on patrol still looking for the guy who Kyle fought in the club and who shot up the place. 30 cops was probably an average, but that night was super eventful and there was still a mass shooter at large.
Ohhh, you picked a good one for today! That being said, this film is good... but Terminator 2: Judgement Day? That film is *legendary.* I can't wait for you to see that one, so I guess you could say... I'll be back.
@@warlockEd73 I can see why you might think that. There's something to appreciate about the gritty noir-ness of it compared to the sequel. Also, they accomplished so much with the first film despite having nearly no budget. I personally still prefer T2, but you do you.
@jkhoover No, it doesn't. It actually diminishes it with pandering humor and anti-male politics. If you're not smart enough to pick up on that, or think it's laudable in some way, that's your problem.
5:30 "Okay. The most unrealistic thing about this is that he would know how to use one of these. Yeah, right. These things haven't been around in _forever."_ Oh. You mean the _payphone._ Well, let me point out, he's not using _that._ He's using the _phonebook._ Now it's been a while since those have been in print, but their operation is _incredibly_ straightforward. If you're literate and you know how to use something that classifies information _alphabetically,_ you can use one.
3:29 Well, if I'm an officer and saw someone behind a dumpster pulling up his pants, best case scenario I'm gonna assume he took a dump in public and worst case scenario he SA-ed someone there. so definitely gonna investigate.
Some fun facts: Bill Paxton is the only actor to be killed on-screen by a Terminator, a Predator and a Xenomorph Arnold doesn't have a "movie-specific" workout regime, but a whole-of-life one The line James Cameron wrote was "I'll be back" but Arnold said it didn't make sense for his Austrian heritage or accent. He asked for it to be changed to "I'll come back". Cameron refused, and the rest is iconic history
21:47 "We've got thirty cops in this building." In every military academy in the US, as well as those of several of our allies, Sun Tzu's _The Art of War_ is required reading. I've read it and I think you'd be well advised to read it as well. It will change the way you see _every_ movie that involves action, after that. One thing Sun Tzu observed is, "Know your enemy and know yourself and you need not fear the outcome of 1000 battles. Know yourself but _not_ your enemy and for every victory, you will suffer a defeat. Know neither your enemy nor yourself and you will succumb in _every_ confrontation." Basically, he emphasizes the importance of knowing the people one is _fighting._ The LAPD, in 1984, surpassed Reese in _every_ measurable way, but Reese was able to give the T800 a serious challenge when they _weren't,_ because he knew his enemy. He was realistic about what he was going _up_ against. They weren't. Reese understood that he faced a bullet-proof cyborg. The LAPD insisted on believing that they were going up against a bodybuilder on a roid-rage kick. If they had been realistic about this, the LAPD could've done a _lot_ more to protect Sarah from the T800. They could've just put her in a _safehouse,_ somewhere; some place almost none of them _knew_ about. And Reese, too, for good measure. That would not have _stopped_ the T800, but it would've thrown it off their trail.
Mothballs; before synthetic fibers were more commonly used in clothes, most clothing was made with cotton. Some moth species would lay eggs in clothes stored for long periods of time. The large would eat the cotton fibers, destroying the clothes. Mothballs were a solid chemical about the size of a mini-muffin or child's marble, that would slowly turn into a vapor over time that would kill the moths. Part of the chemical in some mothballs could be refined and used in making explosives
Minute 02:20 RUclipsr girl: "You have a cigar?!" (Me, just happening to smoke one of the three cohiba cigars that my uncle gave me yesterday) "Yes, i have a cigar, honey. Do you wanna taste it?" P. S. Usually i smoke tuscan cigars, i happened to be smoking a Cuban cigar just thanks to my uncle.
It was just a rougish time in the seventies. Lol. My mom took my sister and I to the drive in to see Phantasm when I was five or 6. There was also an x rated movie playing on the other screen which we could see from the back of the van.
@@paulmartin2348 Pfft. I was honestly asking the intended thought behind a word that, as written, has no clear meaning -- and, by their response, my comment clearly didn't bother the writer. Perhaps it's _you_ who should vanish from any forum that uses the written word.
Lance Hendrickson (who played the skinny white cop) was originally going to be the Terminator and Arnold was slated to play Kyle... But that was scrapped quickly. Pretty cool.
@@tomgeorge7281 he wasn't a cyborg in Aliens. He was an android. And hate to say it. But The Terminator wasn't a cyborg either. Just a robot in a meat suit.
5:28 I am sure you worked out later that Kyle was told all about payphones and phone books by John Connor - who probably didn't know where Sarah was living then as he had not been born. The Terminator also could have been programmed with info abut 1984 - not entirely accurately, of course, as he asked for a plasma rifle
The Terminator goes down the list, Reece knew his mother's middle name, which begins with J. He went to the third Sarah Conner. By the way, both flash-forwards during the movie ( seen as dreams ) contain Reece dying in a car crash fighting the Hunter-Killers, and then when a Terminator infiltrates the place he's hiding: the picture burns as he's reaching for it; the terminator shoots, he never gets hold of it again. They are alternative futures, where he doesn't go back in time. John Connor is not seen or mentioned in them.
@@stevetheduck1425he doesn’t have to be. The only reason the resistance exists at all is John Connor. Without him, all possible futures are just, humans living in death camps, being fed enough to keep them alive long enough to feed corpses into crematoriums, before the loaders become the next corpses in their turn. There are no battles, there are no children hiding and dogs vetting newcomers. There is only extinction. The two scenes are of Kyle Reese _almost_ burning to death but managing to climb free in time, and of Kyle Reese losing the picture of Sarah when the Terminators manage to infiltrate his redoubt. They are flashbacks, not flash forwards.
12:00 "A movie was $4.50?" No. I paid $5.00 to see this in the theater in 1984. I was 17 and this was the first R-rated movie I ever saw in theaters because i finally had an ID that would let me get in. "Wait, this is a movie theater." Maybe. Once. In the past. Now it's a dance club. Nobody did THIS is any movie theater that was actually in the business of showing movies.
This was the first of 4 films I remember seeing both Michael Biehn and Bill Paxton in together 2nd was Aliens, 3rd was Navy Seals, and 4th was Tombstone.
This movie was based on Cameron himself having a nightmare (which iirc became the first rising of the skeleton). Also lol "give him a Reeses Pieces, maybe it'll bring him back"
Also, Cameron had watched all the slasher films of the time, but thought the motivation for a never ending chase by the slasher were weak, so he invented a slasher who literally would never stop-a robot.
there's a few favorite things about this movie: You can kinda guess who the terminator is but it's not actually confirmed until the face off in the club scene and the subsequent terminator vision POV. The way the movie is written both reese and the terminator could be the terminator but the viewer doesn't have confirmation until the faceoff. James Cameron sold the rights to the project only if he was allowed to direct it. During production they used "guerilla filmmaking" and would quickly shot a scene and leave for the policy showed ups so they wouldn't have to wait for permits. Arnold practiced taking various guns apart and putting them back together, even blindfolded. The goal being he could operate a gun so well it would appear robotic.
Wouldn't the shooting of the unarmed Gunshop owner, and the daytime shooting of the unarmed first Sarah Conner be sort of a dead give away? (pun intended)
I love Paul Winfield. He was the black detective trying to save Sarah. In the late 90s he was the narrator of a police show on A&E called City Confidential. He made that show awesome. They would profile a city where a murder had taken place. It was just a neat concept and his great voice made it even better.
The Endo Skeleton (as it's called) seen at the end is geneius design - the eyes are infra red not just to look evil, but for night vision, you can see how it is powered to, by hydrollic cylinders in the limbs, arms & legs, moving up & down for some reason mirror chrome works as well despite something like this would probably look more like Steel if it existed, with far less sparkle
23:36 That's an interesting tendency. Have you ever noticed? If someone in a movie, in their _bedroom_ has a sudden need to hide, there are a few places you can predict they will think of _first._ They'll hide in their _closet_ or under the _bed._ That's probably it. If someone in a movie, in an _office_ has a sudden need to hide, you can predict they will hide under the _desk._ It was very different, I remember, when I was a kid, playing hide-and-seek with my friends. We got a bit more _creative_ than that, doing things like hiding behind _furniture._
The chase scene in the factory, they are not really faster than the Terminator, it's heel is damaged, you can see it dragging one foot (limping). If fully functional, the Terminator can outrun a human.
Sarah got stood up,can’t find a date and then comes a dude from the future who protects her and confessed his love for her, yea panties came off automatically 😂
Can we get some thumbs for the legendary Stan Winston? A true master of special effects who worked on this movie, Aliens, Jurassic Park, Predator and so many more iconic films.
When I was a kid, untreated wool clothing would be found by moths and they would eat the wool. Mothballs contained a chemical that would repel moths and thus protect clothing. Tho I imagine Kyle wanted to use the balls for bombs.
I literally pass by an ad on the highway every day in my country for Cyberdyne System’s “Model 101” and it’s a robotic limb replacement company and model
⚠️ What is so sad is that when Kyle was talking about the picture of Sarah, he mentions how sad she looked and always wondered what she was thinking about. Sarah was thinking about him.
Quick villain note - I had a mate who used to drive drunk (small town UK), and to make sure he didn't get caught he used to phone the police and report a disturbance in the next village over, they went to investigate, and he drove home with 8 pints inside him. Tut, tut.
It’s funny you mentioned Day of Future Past because when this movie came out all of us comics fans noticed immediately the similarities and we all knew (or felt) that James Cameron had stolen the story from Marvel. Whether that was actually the case, who knows for sure, but it’s very likely. The DOFP storyline (1981) was released 3 years before The Terminator (1984).
Not quite. In the credits for The Terminator, there's a credit acknowledging the works of writer Harlan Ellison. Ellison wrote a script for a 1964 episode of "The Outer Limits" called 'Demon with a Glass Hand' which features Robert Culp as an amnesiac who finds he has been sent back in time to prevent the extinction of humanity 1000 years in the future. There are a couple of twists to the story, and I don't wish to spoil it. Anyway, after the release of this film, Harlan Ellison ended up getting a settlement from Cameron and the producers, and many people thought that The Terminator had been plagiarized from this Outer Limits episode. Years ago, Ellison clarified the matter. The Terminator was, as Ellison put it: "Terminator was not stolen from 'Demon with a Glass Hand', it was a ripoff of my OTHER Outer Limits script, 'Soldier'." which was an adaptation of his 1957 short-story, "Soldier from Tomorrow." To quote WIKIPEDIA: " Ellison brought suit against The Terminator production company Hemdale and distributor Orion Pictures for plagiarism of this episode, since both works involve a soldier from the future who goes back in time and saves the life of a present-day woman from an enemy soldier from the future. According to the Los Angeles Times, the parties settled the lawsuit for an undisclosed amount, and an acknowledgement of Ellison's works in the credits of The Terminator. The credits were added only to the home video releases of Terminator and read simply, "Acknowledgment to the Works of Harlan Ellison". James Cameron denied Ellison's allegations and was opposed to the settlement. He has rarely spoken about the issue, but commented on the addition of acknowledgement credits at the 1991 T2 Convention saying, "For legal reasons I'm not supposed to comment on that, but it was a real bum deal, I had nothing to do with it and I disagree with it." " So, the real question is, where did "Days of Future Past" come from? Well, I'm going to quote Wikipedia again: " John Byrne devised the plot for "Days of Future Past", since he wanted to do a story featuring the Sentinels and his collaborator Chris Claremont had no interest in coming up with one. Years later, Byrne said, he realized that he had unconsciously lifted the "spine" of the plot from the 1972 Doctor Who serial Day of the Daleks. " Once again, the old maxim "there is nothing new under the sun" comes to mind.
@@wratched That definitely makes sense now that you mention it, and I remind myself of the episode. Almost all things come from somewhere is, I suppose, the real lesson 😆
@@corvus1970 In my opinion, Cameron didn't plagiarize Ellison, but their ideas were similar enough that Ellison's team was able to force a settlement which is why Cameron's salty about it.
0:06 "This is _technically_ not a first-time reaction, because I saw this movie when I was _six_ years old. Now, if you're thinking to yourself, 'That is way too young to watch this movie,' I am very aware." 😳Oh, you poor kid. Yeah. That's about how young _I_ was. It scared the _hell_ out of me. I had had _no_ idea it was in theaters. I had expressed no interest in _seeing_ it, but _my_ father saw the advertising for it and couldn't _bear_ the thought of seeing it by himself, and no one else wanted to go with him, so he took me. Now if you want to take your kid to a movie you can use for a _bonding_ experience, take 'em to a _kids_ movie. Why do you think they _make_ those?
There is another more iconic line in the history of cinema. An older man cuts off a younger man's hand and tells him who he is to him. Do you know the movie?😋
@@balrog7252 The only film that comes to immediately to mind is "World War Z" where Brad Pitt cuts off a female soldier's hand to prevent the spread of Zombie infection. But no iconic line is given. And in the Fallout TV series a very memorable line is given after a woman bites off the finger of her captor and the captor in turn cuts her own finger off. But I won't spoil the line. I'm guessing that the movie you have in mind is a Mobster movie.
@@x_trio_3_po333 LOL You are funny guy. I understand that you feel like telling absurd jokes. I will never believe that you don't know what movie this quote comes from, but if you don't know, type this sentence into the search engine and you'll see what comes up
@@x_trio_3_po333 I understand that you feel like telling absurd jokes. I will never believe that you don't know what movie this quote comes from, but if you don't know, type this sentence into the search engine and you'll see what comes up
With this movie, James Cameron invented a new type of film genre, Tech Noir, which he also used for the name of the dance club. He also proved that he could effectively write and direct a horror movie.
Besides the fact that I'm sure she has a life outside of RUclips she also edits her own videos which is very time consuming. Most reactors hire outside editors. I'm with you though. I look forward to every Friday because of her!
"It can't be bargained with! It can't be reasoned with! It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead!" There are only two Terminator movies, no matter how many sequels they make. T2 is essential viewing. Stop there. And while the special edition cut is the best version, the extended cut seems to be the most prevalent, so if you can't find the special edition, go with the theatrical. The extended cut changed the ending. It's not as good as the original ending.
So after your T2 reaction popped up in my recomendation I actually laughed at the title and wondered if you had even seen the film or its prequel (this one). Then I saw this and watched. When the cops intitially chase Reese, you ask "Why? What did he do?" Seriously?! It's night. He's in an alley. He's half naked pulling up 'his' pants. Do I really need to list all the reasons the cops would want to check out what is going on? How about I just list the one I thought of if I was the one that encountered that situation. It begins with R and rhymes with grape. When the clerk in the gun store is killed you ask "why? As he was being so nice and helpful." The clerk was being anything but nice and helpful. The T-800 asks for what he really wants "A phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range", the clerk cuts back with a smart alec comment "Hey just what you see pal", in a not nice tone. Important survival tip. If you are selling someone weapons and they start asking for future stuff that ain't been invented yet, you are either dealing with a murderous time travelling cyborg, and should run away as fast as possible. Or you are dealing with someone who isn't playing with a full deck, and should run away as fast as possible. The concept of travelling back in time and living a happy life is explored in Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles, a two season TV series. I highly recommend. Also Dr Silberman features and we see him after T1 and T2. Sarah follows your murder advice in T2. Really pay attention to Reese's interview with Silberman. It has franchise breaking details in there. Reese: You go naked. Something about the field generated by a living organism. Nothing dead will go! Silberman: But this cyborg? If its metal? Reese: Surrounded by living tissue! One bed for two is more than enough. Head out of gutter, please. They are in a survival situation. When one person is asleep the other should be awake. A mothball is a small round ball containing chemicals designed to repel moths and other insects. Sarah knows which button to press because she had pressed it earlier, which is what led the Terminator to them despite the jamming that Reese had put up. There are 6 Terminator films, and a 2 season TV series. I like 1, 4, SCC, 2, 3, 6 in that order and just set fire to 5. 1 was perfect. 4 ignored the whole time travel mess, which is why I rate it second. Sarah Connor Chronicles was very good, and even managed to make sense of the whole time travel mess in a way that felt very believable. 2 is where things start to go wrong. 3 tries to fix the massive plot hole created by two, and actually does a fairly decent job with out defecating over the franchise. 6 ignored everything but 1 & 2 and gave a good accounting for itself, despite treading the same tired time travel lines. And 5 is a mess, which is why I call it Genimess, I refuse to use its actual title. TIME TRAVEL simplified! When you tell a Reverse Temporal Relocation (RTR, stylised as rTr) story, your tale will fit into one of three types. rTr1: An rTr1 story is a closed loop story, also known as a causal loop story, or a predestination paradox story. The latter term is acurate, but I prefer not to use it in a symplified version, but am including it here for completeness. A closed loop story revolves around the idea that time is fixed and immutable. What has happened will always happen. These stories often have future elements leading to the very thing that the time traveller is trying to prevent, creating the closed loop. rTr2: An rTr2 story is a paradox story, sometimes know as a grandfather paradox story. The fact that rTr2 is a paradox story is why I prefer not to use predestination paradox in rTr1. Paradox stories revolve around an event that alters time, so time is no longer immutable, and for some reason the heroes avoid being caught up in the effects and then have to fix the issue. There is always some techno babble reason why the heroes are unaffected, which makes little or no reason. Then the heroes figure out the causal effect and put it right, resetting things to the correct timeline and everyone is happy, except all those who were in the new time line and now have to die. rTr3: An rTr3 are the most pointless time travel stories you can tell, because it really doesn't matter what happens. The basics of an rTr3 story is that there are multiple time lines and for every possible outcome there is a timeline that reflects that. Something such as asking someone to raise a hand can create dozens of possible time lines: They raise their right hand. They raise their left hand. They raise both hands. They raise no hands. They ask why? They start to raise one, stop lower it, and raise the other. On and on until you litterally run out of possibilities. When telling these sort of stories anything is possible, but it doesn't matter, because just a few timelines over the exact opposite of what you wanted to happen happens. You wanted good to win, yay good wins. But a few timelines over evil wins, oops. If your story relies on this idea you might as well not bother, because what is the point. You can let everything fall apart and know that all will be well a few timelines over. Now there is a reason I stylised RTR as rTr. Remove the Rs from the sequence and you get an example you can watch if you're a Terminator fan. T1 is a closed loop story. T2 is a paradox story. T3 is a multiple timeline story. T4 because it avoids time travel keeps faithful to everything that went before. T5 is a mess and invloves multiple timelines coming together in a mess of a story. T6 ignores T3, T4 and T5, and went back to basics, and remembered a fundametal element of T1. John Connor and Skynet are linked. You can't have one, without the other. That's the glaring paradox in T2. John is needed to defeat Skynet to have the first Terminator go back in time leading to the birth of Connor and the creation of Skynet. When John dies, there is no Skynet, and instead Legion rises in its place, because with out Connor to defeat Skynet it doesn't need to send anything back, although the presnece of Karl is still a paradox. Karl is a Skynet model, but Skynet doesn't exit, because John died removing the need to send back Terminators. Therefore despite claims that T3 is not included in T6, T6 is clearly a multiple timeline story.
Quick Timeline lesson: First, this is just one way of looking at time. But it makes sense, which elevates it above most time scenarios. When someone from the future goes back to the past, the future that they came from is immediately out of reach, because they are now creating a new future, based on them now existing in their (previous) past. Their previous present - our future - may or may not still exist. But nobody in our present can live in the time-traveler's future, including the time-traveler, because by going back, he or she is now creating a new future. However, that new future might be very similar to their original future, or it might be very different - or anything in between. And while the time-traveler might realize this new future is different, none of us will realize anything is different, because to us, time is unfolding as it should. Also, cars in the 80's - I believe - had what they called "bench seats", the joy of every girl and boy. Or at least the horny ones. It was a single seat across the car - a bench. Made swapping places a WHOLE lot easier. made snuggling a lot easier, too.
The number of times you kept noticing the character's clothing in the film,watching "The Devil Wears Prada" with you must be a freakin' nightmare lol...
36:02 fun fact: James Cameron said in an interview that the idea of the Terminator came from one of HIS nightmares about being chased through a factory by a unstoppable killer.
My apologies for randomly commenting on past videos. I'm new to your channel and am slowing working my way backwards. The "You did good, Uterus" comment and your questions about time travel are actually pretty spot on observations that a lot of people miss. There's whole videos on the subject that get crazier and crazier the more movies you add in, but sticking with this original movie there's a theory that this is a 3rd timeline and two other timelines played out before this one. The theory summed up goes like this: Timeline 1: There's no time travel at all. Sarah is in no danger. Lives her life as a waitress. Some guy doesn't stand her up for a date. They fall in love. They have a kid. The nuclear war happens. This kid, who may or may not be named John, but is an entirely different person becomes the leader of the humans and defeats the machines. Timeline 2: That guy discovers the machines sent a Terminator back in time to kill him. With no time to spare he sends a solider named Kyle Reese to save him by saving his mom. This Kyle doesn't have a message. Never had a picture of her. She's a total stranger to him. He has no feelings for her. It takes longer for him to find her and cuts it closer than he did here. It takes them longer to trust each other, but things still more or less play out the same and he gets her pregnant with John before dying. Effectively erasing the original kid of Sarah who sent Kyle back in the first place. John becomes the leader and defeats the machines. They send a Terminator back in time again not knowing they've already tried this once before. Timeline 3 (this movie): John now knowing Kyle Reese is his father in advance and knowing the machines will send a Terminator back (and I'm sure there's a story of him trying to find the time machine before they could do that but failing) prepares Kyle by giving him information about his mother including what she looks like so that things will go more smoothly and likely hoping this will prevent Kyle from dying so he can grow up with both his parents and they can all try to stop things from happening in the first place. Only the first half of that ends up happening and now a slightly different John is about to be born to stop the machines. The moral of the story being: Sarah Connors Uterus is basically a cheat code that transcends time and space and is undefeated in any universe or timeline.
Terminator 2 definitely wasn't planned ahead of time. This was made by a young James Cameron who didn't have a budget and made this masterpiece anyways. T2 didn't even come out for another 7 years (1991). But definitely need to watch T2. This movie was a masterpiece, and I still think T2 managed to top it. And yeah there's 6 of these, but things get a little weird after T2 as the movies were no longer made by James Cameron. Release order would be: Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines (2003) Terminator: Salvation (2009) Terminator: Genisys (2015) Terminator: Dark Fate (2019) Genisys was considered a soft reboot for the franchise, that didn't land, so Dark Fate is considered canonically now to be the "official" Terminator 3. It ignored the three before it and acts as a direct sequel to T1 and T2.
RIP Bill Paxton. I believe is still the only actor to have a character of his be killed by a Terminator, a Predator in Predator 2 and an alien Xenomorph in Aliens the sequel to Alien. Absolute legend.
She in fact DOES know that Reece is following her, & after the killings have happened, she thinks it was him that commited the murders, the approach that Cameron used - thriller/Serial killer within the sci fi ganra was clever & worked. As it did in HALLOWEEN & WEST WORLD
The franchise covers a lot of the background story of John Connor. Unfortunately most people don't like anything after T2, but i enjoyed T3 and Salvation which covered Judgement Day and the introduction of Kyle Reese. FYI: older trucks had bench front seats, so it would have been possible to switch the way the did, sliding over and under each other.
I watch several reactors, a lot of them will ask questions about things from the 80s that I answer. But that question about the mothballs made me feel like I was 100 years old. My grandmother used to buy mothballs to put in the upstairs closets where she stored her clothes so moths don't eat them. Before air conditioning became commonplace, people would open their windows and doors at night to get a breeze through. And insects used to come in. I was a kid in the 1980s and my grandmother still used mothballs even though she had Central heating and Air.
A really cool pro tip...the bar scene shot illegally in a non existent bar! They found an abandoned strip center space, put in tables chairs lights fake bar and dj, and hired extras, but people keep coming in from off the street, thinking it was a real place! So paxton(first person killed)and beihn are both in this, Beihn is in Terminator 2 and the abyss, paxton in this, Aliens, true lies, titanic. There's a huge tie in here. Starting with alien. The race of beings, the guy in the big chair, is an Engineer! They seed life on planets and if they don't like how the life is progressing, they seed another life to wipe out the first then kill each other! Engineers created Aliens human and supposedly predators and gave humans the technology to create terminators and replicants! Replicants are Bladerunner and Tyrell corp, aliens are associated with Weyland Corp , Terminator are associated with Cyberdyne systems. Dallas, in Alien, shows his resume as a previous pilot for Tyrell corp 😮😮😮. Beihn and Paxton would hang out in Cameron's trailer after the days shooting. How prolific was Cameron? Beihn said, while hanging out, Cameron was story boarding Terminator 2, Aliens and the abyss, all at the same time, while filming this!😮😮
Part 2 is a must.
While anything after T2 is not and I've seen some people trying and failing to make an argument for the third film
@@TaunTaunTundra4477Rise of The Machines is a different time line more linked to TSCC as are the others apart from Dark Fate that is a direct continuation of the 1984, T2 time line...... in all cases SKYNET / LEGEON(maybe an earlier version of SKYNET or created by SKYNET in the past and just laying dormant in a factory computer system) is searching for the best way of killing the human race by going thought different time options....
@@TaunTaunTundra4477the 3rd film isn't a bad movie. It's just a bad Terminator movie. It undermines the premise of the first two movies.
Also, The Sarah Connor Chronicles is very good.
what's Part 2???? do you mean Terminator 2?? because if you consider that to be canon you also have to watch "dark fate" immediately after; that's Jame's Cameron's rule's not mine, he helped write dark fate unlike all the other movies. Dark Fate is the official ending to John Connor's story after the conclusion of T2 - that is by James Cameron's word.
A sequel is not "part two".
My favorite part is that Kyle fell in love with a picture of Sarah taken when she was thinking of how much she loved him.
That's such a brilliant and profound piece of storytelling by James Cameron. I still like this movie more than T2 because I think it's smarter and better written.
@@earlchatterton9133 Could not agree more. I love T2, but it completely undoes the perfect time travel that is depicted in this movie.
"He hasn't shot at anyone, so the police can't shoot at him, right?"
Oh you absolute sweetheart
Merica 😂
😂…😔
Well, he's not black.
sweet summer child
@@Cain353 Yes, keep repeating the lies.
"I guess since you've already had sex, he can die."
I snorted at that with coffee in my mouth. 😂
Bro died like a drone bee after mating with the queen
"You did good uterus." 🤣😂🤣
That broke me😂
gotta love that 🤣
I came here to say this....
Hysterical!
She has such a charming sense of humor.
Remember, it's Uter-us, not Uter-you. ;) (not my joke, it's from the Simpsons if I remember right)
20:35 there's a deleted scene where Reese breaks down a bit and says he wasn't meant to see the pre-apocalypse world and how beautiful everything is
it was also a scene where Sarah looks up Cyberdyne Systems, and tells Kyle to make the pipe bombs to blow up Cyberdyne before it creates the "molecular memory". In another deleted scene, a piece of the terminator is found by workers at the factory which they'll send to Research and Development later, and when the police go the name of the factory turns out to be Cyberdyne Systems, making the Terminator also the "parent" of Skynet, like Kyle is the "parent" of John.
I wish they would’ve kept that scene in! It’s very moving
_Soylent Green_ reference
@@MDBowron Is that the only indication in the movie that the factory was Cyberdyne? I only knew because it was stated in the novelization.
@@marauderdz the second of the two deleted scenes I mentioned earlier is the only reveal that the factory the terminator was crushed in was also cyberdyne systems
The evolution of Sarah Conner from t1 to t2 is incredible.
You make it sound like she's at school lol.
As are the special effects!
@@CanWeNotKnockIt She did lots of "School" between movies, all practical, with experts in hacking, crime, combat and unconventional warfare training.
@@shainedge6651 I know but I was referring to the OP saying term 1 and term 2
Hot take: T1 Sarah Conner is best Sarah Conner. Actually T1 in general is the better film.
When Kyle Reese first appeared in the alley in 1984, his stunt double had to fall about 7 or 8 feet from an elevated platform while on his side falling right onto the concrete cement. Actor Michael Biehn (Reese) was astounded at the bravery of his stunt double.
I love the "Dark Side" of Jax because she seems so innocent that it comes out of left field and always cracks me up.
"A movie was $4.50???"
Nah. The average price of a movie ticket in 1984 was $3.36.
As for the self-surgery scene in the hotel room, they did indeed use an animatronic Arnold-head for several of those shots. Good eye (pun intended)!
If you haven't already looked it up, Mothballs are a repellant used to discourage the common clothes moth from flying into your closet/attic/wherever and laying eggs. The larvae eat a variety of animal-based fabrics, like silk, wool, felt, etc. Mothballs also became a slang-term for storing something away for later, or discontinuing it.
One last thing. When Kyle mentions the photograph of Sarah that John had given him, he says that he always wondered what she was thinking in that moment. As we see at the end when the photo is taken, she was actually thinking about him.
Fantastic reaction, as always. Can't wait for you to watch Terminator 2!
We had a dollar theater too. Had a huge arcade. Lots of fun as kids.
I remember seeing this at a Saturday matinee for $2. As a teen at the time my buddy and I went every week. The mid 80s had a lot of incredible movies and we saw all of them with paper route money.
Wow, it's like you don't know what "Average" means.
“Special Engagements were $4.50 at our theater. Paid that opening day for Return of the Jedi (not 1984, but 1983).
I graduated in 84 and made $3.35 an hour and still couldn't afford it, great.
24:16 "Is this where sunglasses at night became a trend?"
*Corey Hart has entered the chat*
The song was a hit in the US just a month or so before the movie came out, so probably a combination. Helped too by Miami Vice hitting TV at exactly the same time, making Ray-Bans the must-have accessory for all the Don Johnson wannabes.
I scrolled for THIS comment. Was not disappointed.
🎵🎶 "I wear my sunglasses at night" 🎵🎶
I think the Blues Brothers may have signed off on that, first.
@@paulkondon "It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, half a packet of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses."
When you said, "There used to be 30 cops," I couldn't stop laughing!!!😂😂😂❤❤❤
Arnold Schwarzenegger has starred in 3 James Cameron movies, and Bill Paxton has appeared in 4, appearing together in 2 of them - The Terminator, and hysterically in True Lies. Paxton also had a very tiny role in the movie Commando starring Arnold, bringing their total count of movies together to 3.
RIP Bill Paxton.
Bill and Michael Biehn Did T1,Navy Seals,Aliens Tombstone,lords of Discipline 5
True lies must watch too
Also, Jeanette Goldstein...
@@thedragonlee76is she Hispanic? Is she Irish? Is she Hispanic again? (Sorry, that was Michelle Rodriguez, an actually Hispanic person, in Resident Evil 😂).
"Sunglasses at Night" was a 1983 hit song by Canadian Music Hall of Famer Corey Hart.
I would argue that The Blues Brothers popularized it before the male Allanah Miles😎😎
@@congoliab They never may at point to wear them at night, they just wore them all the time... 🙄😎
I had forgotten some of the little details, like the fact that Ahnuld doesn't have eyebrows after he was set on fire by the car exploding next to him. As for your idea of "getting rid of the people who created him"... that's an incredibly good idea. ;)
They should have made a sequel about them doing that. Missed opportunity.
My favourite part, and a sad fact, is when Kyle said that he always wondered what Sarah was thinking at that moment in the picture. And she was thinking in Kyle during that tape record. Lovers across time....
Arnold himself has said that they thought they had a good movie, but it was too niche for mainstream. They didn't dream it would hit it big like it did. This film was made on a budget even smaller than what TV movies usually get, even by 1984 dollars.
Also: When Sarah accidently hits the switch on the crusher on the way in, she remembers, that's why she can hit it without really looking at it later.
Great reaction, the first two Terminators are great movies.
I read somewhere that this movie was not meant to be this big, it was planned to be one of the Beyond Belief: Fact or Fiction series parts, but i cannot google it out anywhere...
Almost noindependent small budget movie does as great business . I'm also guessing even Jim Cameron was surprised it was as big a hit because I think all he did before was the Piranha sequel .
There's only two. The rest are really bad fan fiction
At one point Arnold returned to the set of Conan (or a sequel, I don’t remember which Conan movie) to reshoot a few scenes, and somebody asked him what he was doing now, when not reshooting Conan scenes. He replied “Oh, I’m doing some shitty little movie…” So yeah, it’s safe to say that he had no idea it was going to be a hit or make him a star.
The first FOUR Terminators are great movies.
The cops were investigating an electrical disturbance, then saw some naked man stealing a homeless guy’s pants-The man ran then overpowered a cop.
That seems self-explanatory enough for me.
Father daughter bonding time with the Terminator at age 6 lol....sounds like my household! Parenting done right!
Me and my daughter just high fived. 😉
I see nothing wrong with this. My parents basically let me watch whatever and I was fine. They instilled into me at a young age how to separate movies/shows from reality. Once that was drilled into me, virtually nothing bothered me on the silver screen or on tv.
But when I'd watch documentaries or news stories and something bad would happen it would absolutely bother me. Never got nightmares or anything though.. One movie that I absolutely made a mistake of watching was Arachnophobia.
BIGGEST MISTAKE OF MY LIFE! 🤣😂
lol ditto on arachnophobia. Also fire in the sky for me lol.
Good stuff. When i was 6 , my father took me to see Jaws in the theater…. What an experience.
@@jamesosteen09 Fire in the sky bothered me when I was younger but grew out of it.
I don't think I can ever grow out of Arachnophobia. *SHUDDERS*
31:08 "Now that you've had the sex... you can die" 😂😂😂 ICE COLD!
Sounds like something a Praying mantis would say to her partner 😉
I was looking for this comment 😂😂😂
@@Xethuron Or a Black Widow spider
Ya, that is pretty harsh. I thought she was my ex-wife for a minute there.
I believe that Arnold's breakout role was "Hercules in New York" (1970), though I'm pretty sure what got him this job was his role in "Conan the Barbarian" (1982), two years before this. Conan showed that he actually could act ... at least a little. lol
Conan was his breakout role, but Terminator made him a legend. In the movie business, there are those one roles/movies after which you can do complete garbage and it wont matter. It didn't hurt that he did even more legendary things like T2, Predator, etc.
Wouldn't exactly call Hercules his breakout role. Conan, yes.
Hercules in New York was Arnold's first theatrical acting role in a traditional narrative movie... it was NOT his "breakout" role.. breakout role usually signifies the role that made an actor into a big name recognized by most people or even a star... Hercules in New York was a comically bad low-budget film that nobody saw in which Arnold's accent was deemed to be so indecipherable that all of his lines were dubbed. He had an uncredited cameo in The Long Goodbye after that.. and small roles in a few other movies... but the first time he had a major role that made him recognizable as a movie star was as Conan the Barbarian. Terminator definitely solidified him as a star, though.
However, it's arguable that Arnold's breakout role actually came 3 years before he started making Hollywood movies, when he appeared prominently in the documentary Pumping Iron - about he and others training for the Mr. Olympia competition.
I also remember seeing him young in Streets of San Francisco. He was playing a deranged bodybuilder killing women he believed they were mocking him.
@@belgarion4513 Yep.
The scene with the Punks was filmed at Griffith Park Observatory.
Big Buns was at Bob's Big Boy, now Carrow's in South Pasadena.
The Gun Shop was in Van Nuys as was the Biker phone booth.
"The Terminator" and "Sunglasses at Night" song were both released in 1984.
The sequel is one of the best movies ever made. So excited if you react to that one!
Real good, just not as good as this one!
And this one too.
“Give him a Reese’s pieces”😂😂
"come with me if you want to live" plays a big part in all the franchise 😊
“Thank you uterus!”
😂 Love her quips!
We have 30 cops in this building, two minutes later, 29,28,27....0
"Mary" of "Movies With Mary" began a sort of nursery rhyme, counting down the 30 cops like "100 Bottles of Beer on the Wall.";)
While he wasn't at the station, probably due to being in the hospital with a concussion, a fun fact for you.
In Terminator 2, the guy with the camera who was in shock at Arnold being thrown through the window is the cop he stole the car from in Terminator 1.
It's why the cops figured out everything so quickly back in the 90s. Further why that one character looked so shocked. He thought he was looking at the man that killed 30 of his friends nearly a decade before.
According to Terminator 2, seventeen cops were killled. Thirteen survived.
@@jonathanryan9946 According to Terminator 2, seventeen cops were killled. Thirteen survived.
@@williambryan3346 Technically that's as assumption, we don't know for certainly that 30 cops were in the building at that exact moment. Only that at one point in time early that night it was implied that there was 30 cops.
My assumption is a lot of cops were out on patrol still looking for the guy who Kyle fought in the club and who shot up the place. 30 cops was probably an average, but that night was super eventful and there was still a mass shooter at large.
Rhys: "I always wondered what you were thinking about."
Him. She was thinking about him. It comes full circle. Beautiful detail.
Ohhh, you picked a good one for today! That being said, this film is good... but Terminator 2: Judgement Day? That film is *legendary.*
I can't wait for you to see that one, so I guess you could say... I'll be back.
The Original is the better movie
@@warlockEd73 I can see why you might think that. There's something to appreciate about the gritty noir-ness of it compared to the sequel. Also, they accomplished so much with the first film despite having nearly no budget.
I personally still prefer T2, but you do you.
To me the Original is the masterpiece! second one has better action though
T2 is by far the better film, it's actually so good it makes this film better.
@jkhoover No, it doesn't. It actually diminishes it with pandering humor and anti-male politics. If you're not smart enough to pick up on that, or think it's laudable in some way, that's your problem.
“Reese’s pieces?”
Me sitting here with fingers crossed hoping she says Sarah “getting her some Reese’s Pieces.”
"How is he supposed to call her if they don't have cell phones?" LOL OML.
God im old....
@@2LucasKane3She should have titled this that instead. Was saying that the whole time 😂
5:30 "Okay. The most unrealistic thing about this is that he would know how to use one of these. Yeah, right. These things haven't been around in _forever."_
Oh. You mean the _payphone._ Well, let me point out, he's not using _that._ He's using the _phonebook._ Now it's been a while since those have been in print, but their operation is _incredibly_ straightforward. If you're literate and you know how to use something that classifies information _alphabetically,_ you can use one.
3:29 Well, if I'm an officer and saw someone behind a dumpster pulling up his pants, best case scenario I'm gonna assume he took a dump in public and worst case scenario he SA-ed someone there. so definitely gonna investigate.
Girl, when I was growing up movies at the cheaper theater were 1$ each. And they had zero commercials or previews.
Some fun facts:
Bill Paxton is the only actor to be killed on-screen by a Terminator, a Predator and a Xenomorph
Arnold doesn't have a "movie-specific" workout regime, but a whole-of-life one
The line James Cameron wrote was "I'll be back" but Arnold said it didn't make sense for his Austrian heritage or accent. He asked for it to be changed to "I'll come back". Cameron refused, and the rest is iconic history
that's the legend, but actually you don't see him being killed by the Terminator... Brian Thompson is the only one clearly killed there.
Just makes that "murder" scene in True lies even more funny 😄
Lance Henriksen falls into that category as well.
@@TheVlad1616 and they were both vampires in Near Dark.
I was thinking the same thing!
21:47 "We've got thirty cops in this building."
In every military academy in the US, as well as those of several of our allies, Sun Tzu's _The Art of War_ is required reading. I've read it and I think you'd be well advised to read it as well. It will change the way you see _every_ movie that involves action, after that.
One thing Sun Tzu observed is, "Know your enemy and know yourself and you need not fear the outcome of 1000 battles. Know yourself but _not_ your enemy and for every victory, you will suffer a defeat. Know neither your enemy nor yourself and you will succumb in _every_ confrontation." Basically, he emphasizes the importance of knowing the people one is _fighting._
The LAPD, in 1984, surpassed Reese in _every_ measurable way, but Reese was able to give the T800 a serious challenge when they _weren't,_ because he knew his enemy. He was realistic about what he was going _up_ against. They weren't. Reese understood that he faced a bullet-proof cyborg. The LAPD insisted on believing that they were going up against a bodybuilder on a roid-rage kick.
If they had been realistic about this, the LAPD could've done a _lot_ more to protect Sarah from the T800. They could've just put her in a _safehouse,_ somewhere; some place almost none of them _knew_ about. And Reese, too, for good measure. That would not have _stopped_ the T800, but it would've thrown it off their trail.
Mothballs; before synthetic fibers were more commonly used in clothes, most clothing was made with cotton. Some moth species would lay eggs in clothes stored for long periods of time. The large would eat the cotton fibers, destroying the clothes. Mothballs were a solid chemical about the size of a mini-muffin or child's marble, that would slowly turn into a vapor over time that would kill the moths. Part of the chemical in some mothballs could be refined and used in making explosives
Minute 02:20
RUclipsr girl: "You have a cigar?!"
(Me, just happening to smoke one of the three cohiba cigars that my uncle gave me yesterday)
"Yes, i have a cigar, honey. Do you wanna taste it?"
P. S. Usually i smoke tuscan cigars, i happened to be smoking a Cuban cigar just thanks to my uncle.
Arnold wanted to play Kyle Reese, but James Cameron thought he will be better suited for the role of the Terminator.
And Lance Henriksen (sp) was going to be the Terminator! At least he got to play the cop!
"Sunglasses At Night" And "I Can See Clearly" (almost) now the rain is gone.
"You did good uterus" 😂 that should be your code phrase
"A Movie was $4.50 ?!? "
When I was young we used to have $2 tuesdays.
And I'm only 50.
Bill Paxton is the only actor who has been killed by a Terminator, Xenomorph and Predator.
No he isn't.
Too young for Terminator at 5? My babysitter brought me with her and her friends to watch JAWS when I was 3... lol
It was just a rougish time in the seventies. Lol. My mom took my sister and I to the drive in to see Phantasm when I was five or 6. There was also an x rated movie playing on the other screen which we could see from the back of the van.
@@kimwatchesstuff "Rougish"??? 🤔 Rough-ish? Roguish?
@@bigdream_dreambig yea I don't know lol. It was the wild west out there.
@@bigdream_dreambig Please go away. Forever.
@@paulmartin2348 Pfft. I was honestly asking the intended thought behind a word that, as written, has no clear meaning -- and, by their response, my comment clearly didn't bother the writer. Perhaps it's _you_ who should vanish from any forum that uses the written word.
Lance Hendrickson (who played the skinny white cop) was originally going to be the Terminator and Arnold was slated to play Kyle... But that was scrapped quickly. Pretty cool.
Arnold is such a great Terminator!
@@reactswithjax Can you please react to kung fu panda 4
But Lance H. got to be a cyborg in another movie.
@@tomgeorge7281 he wasn't a cyborg in Aliens. He was an android. And hate to say it. But The Terminator wasn't a cyborg either. Just a robot in a meat suit.
Thanks for straightening out the terminology.
Terminator 2 is a must watch! My local theatre re-released in it on the big screen back in April. And it was absolutely incredible.
Regarding the sunglasses indoors "trend", I'm pretty sure black and white musicians were rocking that style WAY back in the dawn of blues-rock!
5:28 I am sure you worked out later that Kyle was told all about payphones and phone books by John Connor - who probably didn't know where Sarah was living then as he had not been born. The Terminator also could have been programmed with info abut 1984 - not entirely accurately, of course, as he asked for a plasma rifle
Reese's finger trailed to the third Sarah Connor in the phonebook. I guess he was just verifying.
The Terminator goes down the list, Reece knew his mother's middle name, which begins with J. He went to the third Sarah Conner.
By the way, both flash-forwards during the movie ( seen as dreams ) contain Reece dying in a car crash fighting the Hunter-Killers,
and then when a Terminator infiltrates the place he's hiding: the picture burns as he's reaching for it; the terminator shoots, he never gets hold of it again.
They are alternative futures, where he doesn't go back in time.
John Connor is not seen or mentioned in them.
@@stevetheduck1425 Reece did not die in the car crash, that was where he got all the scars on his back methinks.
@@stevetheduck1425he doesn’t have to be. The only reason the resistance exists at all is John Connor. Without him, all possible futures are just, humans living in death camps, being fed enough to keep them alive long enough to feed corpses into crematoriums, before the loaders become the next corpses in their turn.
There are no battles, there are no children hiding and dogs vetting newcomers. There is only extinction.
The two scenes are of Kyle Reese _almost_ burning to death but managing to climb free in time, and of Kyle Reese losing the picture of Sarah when the Terminators manage to infiltrate his redoubt. They are flashbacks, not flash forwards.
Jax: "Invent a code word." Me: What's the code word? Person from the future: *Says the code word* Me: Sorry, that was the OLD code word.
12:00 "A movie was $4.50?"
No.
I paid $5.00 to see this in the theater in 1984. I was 17 and this was the first R-rated movie I ever saw in theaters because i finally had an ID that would let me get in.
"Wait, this is a movie theater."
Maybe. Once. In the past.
Now it's a dance club.
Nobody did THIS is any movie theater that was actually in the business of showing movies.
@0:46 This was one of Arnold’s first big movies, but it wasn’t his breakout role. That was in Conan the Barbarian (1982).
Mothballs: Tiny little glands that male moths need to reproduce.
haha, she will believe it. she pondered bench seats
Exactly.
"Have you ever smelled moth balls?"
"Yes."
"How did you fit your nose between their tiny little legs?"
Lmao
Or the dances moths meet at.
This was the first of 4 films I remember seeing both Michael Biehn and Bill Paxton in together 2nd was Aliens, 3rd was Navy Seals, and 4th was Tombstone.
Sarah's roommate Ginger was played by Bess Motto of the 20 Min Workout.
Wow, an OG Areobicise girl, mind = blown
@@adamscott7354 🤯
Bess Motta, but yeah.
Younger generations: "Why is GenX so worried and afraid of AI and Robots!?" This, this is why. 😅
"I don't wanna look at it, but I'm doing it for you!"
I'm pretty sure that's how the Me Too movement got started lmao
"good job uterus" is gonna make me laugh all. dang. day lol
"WHY is James Cameron trying to give me nightmares?!"
Best comment EVER to the second rising of the Terminator-skeleton. 😀
This movie was based on Cameron himself having a nightmare (which iirc became the first rising of the skeleton).
Also lol "give him a Reeses Pieces, maybe it'll bring him back"
@@emurphy42 Well, that nightmare and a Harlan Ellison story he liberally robbed from.
Ellison sued, got some money and a writer's credit iirc.
Also, Cameron had watched all the slasher films of the time, but thought the motivation for a never ending chase by the slasher were weak, so he invented a slasher who literally would never stop-a robot.
It's kinda his job lol
"Kyle, noooo. Give him a Reese's Pieces, maybe it'll bring him back." absolutely slayed me 😆
Bill Paxton has the distinction of being the only actor who has been killed by a terminator, an alien and a predator.
There's at least 20 people that beat you to this comment. Also, it's wrong.
And a cowboy
@jkhoover how is it wrong?
there's a few favorite things about this movie:
You can kinda guess who the terminator is but it's not actually confirmed until the face off in the club scene and the subsequent terminator vision POV. The way the movie is written both reese and the terminator could be the terminator but the viewer doesn't have confirmation until the faceoff.
James Cameron sold the rights to the project only if he was allowed to direct it. During production they used "guerilla filmmaking" and would quickly shot a scene and leave for the policy showed ups so they wouldn't have to wait for permits.
Arnold practiced taking various guns apart and putting them back together, even blindfolded. The goal being he could operate a gun so well it would appear robotic.
Wouldn't the shooting of the unarmed Gunshop owner, and the daytime shooting of the unarmed first Sarah Conner be sort of a dead give away? (pun intended)
"Come with me if you want to live" remember that. Pass code activated.
The best pick-up line, ever!
@@robertstallings6020 It worked in American Pie.
@@lokithecat7225the sherminator 😂
I love Paul Winfield. He was the black detective trying to save Sarah. In the late 90s he was the narrator of a police show on A&E called City Confidential. He made that show awesome. They would profile a city where a murder had taken place. It was just a neat concept and his great voice made it even better.
It's like watching an older version of Addie Counts
I want then to meet now 😅
They are both part of my Mt. Rushmore of Reactors: Addie, Jax, Vkunia and Popcorn In Bed (Cassie & Carly) 🙂
The Endo Skeleton (as it's called) seen at the end is geneius design - the eyes are infra red not just to look evil, but for night vision, you can see how it is powered to, by hydrollic cylinders in the limbs, arms & legs, moving up & down
for some reason mirror chrome works as well despite something like this would probably look more like Steel if it existed, with far less sparkle
We had to wait 7 years for Terminator 2, but was worth the wait.
A fantastic sequel.
Definitely watch it.
23:36 That's an interesting tendency. Have you ever noticed?
If someone in a movie, in their _bedroom_ has a sudden need to hide, there are a few places you can predict they will think of _first._ They'll hide in their _closet_ or under the _bed._ That's probably it.
If someone in a movie, in an _office_ has a sudden need to hide, you can predict they will hide under the _desk._
It was very different, I remember, when I was a kid, playing hide-and-seek with my friends. We got a bit more _creative_ than that, doing things like hiding behind _furniture._
The chase scene in the factory, they are not really faster than the Terminator, it's heel is damaged, you can see it dragging one foot (limping). If fully functional, the Terminator can outrun a human.
Sarah got stood up,can’t find a date and then comes a dude from the future who protects her and confessed his love for her, yea panties came off automatically 😂
Can we get some thumbs for the legendary Stan Winston? A true master of special effects who worked on this movie, Aliens, Jurassic Park, Predator and so many more iconic films.
When I was a kid, untreated wool clothing would be found by moths and they would eat the wool. Mothballs contained a chemical that would repel moths and thus protect clothing. Tho I imagine Kyle wanted to use the balls for bombs.
I never knew mothballs existed, let alone how versatile they are!
FYI, the actor that got his throat ripped out in the beginning is the main villain in Cobra w Sylvester Stallone. Lots of iconic lines in that one.
Wasn't his throat, looked like his liver.
I believe he also plays an Alien in X-Files.
@@Scyth0r He basically got a chance to play a Terminator on that show.
It was his heart.
He also played Luke (the Vessel) in "Buffy the Vampire Slayer: The Harvest" and The Judge in "Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Innocence"
"being afraid of a hand" oh man I knew instantly what scene she was talking about lol.
Fun Facts...
Cyberdyne is a robotics company in Japan...
Skynet is a Satellite defence system by the UK...
Well, maybe not so fun facts
@@ivantot506 Yeah, we're all dead
What year was this skynet founded? Who in their right mind would name their company skynet?
I literally pass by an ad on the highway every day in my country for Cyberdyne System’s “Model 101” and it’s a robotic limb replacement company and model
@@user-gg8vt7mm2u The first UK Skynet satellite was launched in 1969.
“You did good, uterus” is my new all time favorite Jax quote.
⚠️ What is so sad is that when Kyle was talking about the picture of Sarah, he mentions how sad she looked and always wondered what she was thinking about. Sarah was thinking about him.
Quick villain note - I had a mate who used to drive drunk (small town UK), and to make sure he didn't get caught he used to phone the police and report a disturbance in the next village over, they went to investigate, and he drove home with 8 pints inside him. Tut, tut.
You remember a hand. Most people remember a couple other things. 😏🤭
That sound and expression you made when Ahnold was about to stick a knife in his eye 😆 You are too adorable!
It’s funny you mentioned Day of Future Past because when this movie came out all of us comics fans noticed immediately the similarities and we all knew (or felt) that James Cameron had stolen the story from Marvel. Whether that was actually the case, who knows for sure, but it’s very likely. The DOFP storyline (1981) was released 3 years before The Terminator (1984).
Not quite.
In the credits for The Terminator, there's a credit acknowledging the works of writer Harlan Ellison. Ellison wrote a script for a 1964 episode of "The Outer Limits" called 'Demon with a Glass Hand' which features Robert Culp as an amnesiac who finds he has been sent back in time to prevent the extinction of humanity 1000 years in the future. There are a couple of twists to the story, and I don't wish to spoil it.
Anyway, after the release of this film, Harlan Ellison ended up getting a settlement from Cameron and the producers, and many people thought that The Terminator had been plagiarized from this Outer Limits episode. Years ago, Ellison clarified the matter. The Terminator was, as Ellison put it: "Terminator was not stolen from 'Demon with a Glass Hand', it was a ripoff of my OTHER Outer Limits script, 'Soldier'." which was an adaptation of his 1957 short-story, "Soldier from Tomorrow."
To quote WIKIPEDIA:
" Ellison brought suit against The Terminator production company Hemdale and distributor Orion Pictures for plagiarism of this episode, since both works involve a soldier from the future who goes back in time and saves the life of a present-day woman from an enemy soldier from the future. According to the Los Angeles Times, the parties settled the lawsuit for an undisclosed amount, and an acknowledgement of Ellison's works in the credits of The Terminator. The credits were added only to the home video releases of Terminator and read simply, "Acknowledgment to the Works of Harlan Ellison".
James Cameron denied Ellison's allegations and was opposed to the settlement. He has rarely spoken about the issue, but commented on the addition of acknowledgement credits at the 1991 T2 Convention saying, "For legal reasons I'm not supposed to comment on that, but it was a real bum deal, I had nothing to do with it and I disagree with it." "
So, the real question is, where did "Days of Future Past" come from? Well, I'm going to quote Wikipedia again:
" John Byrne devised the plot for "Days of Future Past", since he wanted to do a story featuring the Sentinels and his collaborator Chris Claremont had no interest in coming up with one. Years later, Byrne said, he realized that he had unconsciously lifted the "spine" of the plot from the 1972 Doctor Who serial Day of the Daleks. "
Once again, the old maxim "there is nothing new under the sun" comes to mind.
If nothing else, John Byrne did a lot of inadvertently-free design work in visualizing the future world.
Byrne later admitted he was inspired by "Day of the Daleks" from 1967, Let's face it, it's an idea whose time had come.
@@wratched That definitely makes sense now that you mention it, and I remind myself of the episode. Almost all things come from somewhere is, I suppose, the real lesson 😆
@@corvus1970 In my opinion, Cameron didn't plagiarize Ellison, but their ideas were similar enough that Ellison's team was able to force a settlement which is why Cameron's salty about it.
0:06 "This is _technically_ not a first-time reaction, because I saw this movie when I was _six_ years old. Now, if you're thinking to yourself, 'That is way too young to watch this movie,' I am very aware."
😳Oh, you poor kid. Yeah. That's about how young _I_ was. It scared the _hell_ out of me. I had had _no_ idea it was in theaters. I had expressed no interest in _seeing_ it, but _my_ father saw the advertising for it and couldn't _bear_ the thought of seeing it by himself, and no one else wanted to go with him, so he took me.
Now if you want to take your kid to a movie you can use for a _bonding_ experience, take 'em to a _kids_ movie. Why do you think they _make_ those?
I can't imagine seeing this in a giant movie theater at that age! Wow!
I'll be Back. Best iconic line.
There is another more iconic line in the history of cinema. An older man cuts off a younger man's hand and tells him who he is to him. Do you know the movie?😋
@@balrog7252 No. What is it 🤔?
@@balrog7252 The only film that comes to immediately to mind is "World War Z" where Brad Pitt cuts off a female soldier's hand to prevent the spread of Zombie infection. But no iconic line is given. And in the Fallout TV series a very memorable line is given after a woman bites off the finger of her captor and the captor in turn cuts her own finger off. But I won't spoil the line. I'm guessing that the movie you have in mind is a Mobster movie.
@@x_trio_3_po333 LOL You are funny guy. I understand that you feel like telling absurd jokes. I will never believe that you don't know what movie this quote comes from, but if you don't know, type this sentence into the search engine and you'll see what comes up
@@x_trio_3_po333 I understand that you feel like telling absurd jokes. I will never believe that you don't know what movie this quote comes from, but if you don't know, type this sentence into the search engine and you'll see what comes up
With this movie, James Cameron invented a new type of film genre, Tech Noir, which he also used for the name of the dance club. He also proved that he could effectively write and direct a horror movie.
The only thing I do not like about this channel, is that we only get one upload a week
Actor is Bill Paxton
Besides the fact that I'm sure she has a life outside of RUclips she also edits her own videos which is very time consuming. Most reactors hire outside editors. I'm with you though. I look forward to every Friday because of her!
"It can't be bargained with! It can't be reasoned with! It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead!"
There are only two Terminator movies, no matter how many sequels they make. T2 is essential viewing. Stop there. And while the special edition cut is the best version, the extended cut seems to be the most prevalent, so if you can't find the special edition, go with the theatrical. The extended cut changed the ending. It's not as good as the original ending.
So after your T2 reaction popped up in my recomendation I actually laughed at the title and wondered if you had even seen the film or its prequel (this one). Then I saw this and watched.
When the cops intitially chase Reese, you ask "Why? What did he do?"
Seriously?!
It's night. He's in an alley. He's half naked pulling up 'his' pants. Do I really need to list all the reasons the cops would want to check out what is going on? How about I just list the one I thought of if I was the one that encountered that situation. It begins with R and rhymes with grape.
When the clerk in the gun store is killed you ask "why? As he was being so nice and helpful." The clerk was being anything but nice and helpful. The T-800 asks for what he really wants "A phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range", the clerk cuts back with a smart alec comment "Hey just what you see pal", in a not nice tone. Important survival tip. If you are selling someone weapons and they start asking for future stuff that ain't been invented yet, you are either dealing with a murderous time travelling cyborg, and should run away as fast as possible. Or you are dealing with someone who isn't playing with a full deck, and should run away as fast as possible.
The concept of travelling back in time and living a happy life is explored in Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles, a two season TV series. I highly recommend. Also Dr Silberman features and we see him after T1 and T2.
Sarah follows your murder advice in T2.
Really pay attention to Reese's interview with Silberman. It has franchise breaking details in there.
Reese: You go naked. Something about the field generated by a living organism. Nothing dead will go!
Silberman: But this cyborg? If its metal?
Reese: Surrounded by living tissue!
One bed for two is more than enough. Head out of gutter, please. They are in a survival situation. When one person is asleep the other should be awake.
A mothball is a small round ball containing chemicals designed to repel moths and other insects.
Sarah knows which button to press because she had pressed it earlier, which is what led the Terminator to them despite the jamming that Reese had put up.
There are 6 Terminator films, and a 2 season TV series. I like 1, 4, SCC, 2, 3, 6 in that order and just set fire to 5. 1 was perfect. 4 ignored the whole time travel mess, which is why I rate it second. Sarah Connor Chronicles was very good, and even managed to make sense of the whole time travel mess in a way that felt very believable. 2 is where things start to go wrong. 3 tries to fix the massive plot hole created by two, and actually does a fairly decent job with out defecating over the franchise. 6 ignored everything but 1 & 2 and gave a good accounting for itself, despite treading the same tired time travel lines. And 5 is a mess, which is why I call it Genimess, I refuse to use its actual title.
TIME TRAVEL simplified!
When you tell a Reverse Temporal Relocation (RTR, stylised as rTr) story, your tale will fit into one of three types.
rTr1: An rTr1 story is a closed loop story, also known as a causal loop story, or a predestination paradox story. The latter term is acurate, but I prefer not to use it in a symplified version, but am including it here for completeness. A closed loop story revolves around the idea that time is fixed and immutable. What has happened will always happen. These stories often have future elements leading to the very thing that the time traveller is trying to prevent, creating the closed loop.
rTr2: An rTr2 story is a paradox story, sometimes know as a grandfather paradox story. The fact that rTr2 is a paradox story is why I prefer not to use predestination paradox in rTr1. Paradox stories revolve around an event that alters time, so time is no longer immutable, and for some reason the heroes avoid being caught up in the effects and then have to fix the issue. There is always some techno babble reason why the heroes are unaffected, which makes little or no reason. Then the heroes figure out the causal effect and put it right, resetting things to the correct timeline and everyone is happy, except all those who were in the new time line and now have to die.
rTr3: An rTr3 are the most pointless time travel stories you can tell, because it really doesn't matter what happens. The basics of an rTr3 story is that there are multiple time lines and for every possible outcome there is a timeline that reflects that. Something such as asking someone to raise a hand can create dozens of possible time lines: They raise their right hand. They raise their left hand. They raise both hands. They raise no hands. They ask why? They start to raise one, stop lower it, and raise the other. On and on until you litterally run out of possibilities. When telling these sort of stories anything is possible, but it doesn't matter, because just a few timelines over the exact opposite of what you wanted to happen happens. You wanted good to win, yay good wins. But a few timelines over evil wins, oops. If your story relies on this idea you might as well not bother, because what is the point. You can let everything fall apart and know that all will be well a few timelines over.
Now there is a reason I stylised RTR as rTr. Remove the Rs from the sequence and you get an example you can watch if you're a Terminator fan.
T1 is a closed loop story.
T2 is a paradox story.
T3 is a multiple timeline story.
T4 because it avoids time travel keeps faithful to everything that went before.
T5 is a mess and invloves multiple timelines coming together in a mess of a story.
T6 ignores T3, T4 and T5, and went back to basics, and remembered a fundametal element of T1. John Connor and Skynet are linked. You can't have one, without the other. That's the glaring paradox in T2. John is needed to defeat Skynet to have the first Terminator go back in time leading to the birth of Connor and the creation of Skynet. When John dies, there is no Skynet, and instead Legion rises in its place, because with out Connor to defeat Skynet it doesn't need to send anything back, although the presnece of Karl is still a paradox. Karl is a Skynet model, but Skynet doesn't exit, because John died removing the need to send back Terminators. Therefore despite claims that T3 is not included in T6, T6 is clearly a multiple timeline story.
Quick Timeline lesson: First, this is just one way of looking at time. But it makes sense, which elevates it above most time scenarios.
When someone from the future goes back to the past, the future that they came from is immediately out of reach, because they are now creating a new future, based on them now existing in their (previous) past. Their previous present - our future - may or may not still exist. But nobody in our present can live in the time-traveler's future, including the time-traveler, because by going back, he or she is now creating a new future. However, that new future might be very similar to their original future, or it might be very different - or anything in between. And while the time-traveler might realize this new future is different, none of us will realize anything is different, because to us, time is unfolding as it should.
Also, cars in the 80's - I believe - had what they called "bench seats", the joy of every girl and boy. Or at least the horny ones. It was a single seat across the car - a bench. Made swapping places a WHOLE lot easier. made snuggling a lot easier, too.
The number of times you kept noticing the character's clothing in the film,watching "The Devil Wears Prada" with you must be a freakin' nightmare lol...
She's a girl...
Crazy how the movie that made Arnold a superstar was when he played a villain.
@16:00 Kyle: “Do you understand?!”
Jax: “I’m nodding.” 🤣
36:02 fun fact: James Cameron said in an interview that the idea of the Terminator came from one of HIS nightmares about being chased through a factory by a unstoppable killer.
My apologies for randomly commenting on past videos. I'm new to your channel and am slowing working my way backwards. The "You did good, Uterus" comment and your questions about time travel are actually pretty spot on observations that a lot of people miss. There's whole videos on the subject that get crazier and crazier the more movies you add in, but sticking with this original movie there's a theory that this is a 3rd timeline and two other timelines played out before this one.
The theory summed up goes like this:
Timeline 1: There's no time travel at all. Sarah is in no danger. Lives her life as a waitress. Some guy doesn't stand her up for a date. They fall in love. They have a kid. The nuclear war happens. This kid, who may or may not be named John, but is an entirely different person becomes the leader of the humans and defeats the machines.
Timeline 2: That guy discovers the machines sent a Terminator back in time to kill him. With no time to spare he sends a solider named Kyle Reese to save him by saving his mom. This Kyle doesn't have a message. Never had a picture of her. She's a total stranger to him. He has no feelings for her. It takes longer for him to find her and cuts it closer than he did here. It takes them longer to trust each other, but things still more or less play out the same and he gets her pregnant with John before dying. Effectively erasing the original kid of Sarah who sent Kyle back in the first place. John becomes the leader and defeats the machines. They send a Terminator back in time again not knowing they've already tried this once before.
Timeline 3 (this movie): John now knowing Kyle Reese is his father in advance and knowing the machines will send a Terminator back (and I'm sure there's a story of him trying to find the time machine before they could do that but failing) prepares Kyle by giving him information about his mother including what she looks like so that things will go more smoothly and likely hoping this will prevent Kyle from dying so he can grow up with both his parents and they can all try to stop things from happening in the first place. Only the first half of that ends up happening and now a slightly different John is about to be born to stop the machines.
The moral of the story being: Sarah Connors Uterus is basically a cheat code that transcends time and space and is undefeated in any universe or timeline.
Terminator 2 definitely wasn't planned ahead of time. This was made by a young James Cameron who didn't have a budget and made this masterpiece anyways. T2 didn't even come out for another 7 years (1991). But definitely need to watch T2. This movie was a masterpiece, and I still think T2 managed to top it.
And yeah there's 6 of these, but things get a little weird after T2 as the movies were no longer made by James Cameron. Release order would be:
Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines (2003)
Terminator: Salvation (2009)
Terminator: Genisys (2015)
Terminator: Dark Fate (2019)
Genisys was considered a soft reboot for the franchise, that didn't land, so Dark Fate is considered canonically now to be the "official" Terminator 3. It ignored the three before it and acts as a direct sequel to T1 and T2.
RIP Bill Paxton. I believe is still the only actor to have a character of his be killed by a Terminator, a Predator in Predator 2 and an alien Xenomorph in Aliens the sequel to Alien. Absolute legend.
Your dad wanted his baby girl to see that even a sweet, beautiful girl can defend herself against a monstrous terminator.
She in fact DOES know that Reece is following her, & after the killings have happened, she thinks it was him that commited the murders,
the approach that Cameron used - thriller/Serial killer within the sci fi ganra was clever & worked.
As it did in HALLOWEEN & WEST WORLD
The franchise covers a lot of the background story of John Connor. Unfortunately most people don't like anything after T2, but i enjoyed T3 and Salvation which covered Judgement Day and the introduction of Kyle Reese. FYI: older trucks had bench front seats, so it would have been possible to switch the way the did, sliding over and under each other.
Someone once pointed out that the love scene in the Terminator was essential to the plot of the movie.
I watch several reactors, a lot of them will ask questions about things from the 80s that I answer. But that question about the mothballs made me feel like I was 100 years old. My grandmother used to buy mothballs to put in the upstairs closets where she stored her clothes so moths don't eat them.
Before air conditioning became commonplace, people would open their windows and doors at night to get a breeze through. And insects used to come in. I was a kid in the 1980s and my grandmother still used mothballs even though she had Central heating and Air.
A really cool pro tip...the bar scene shot illegally in a non existent bar! They found an abandoned strip center space, put in tables chairs lights fake bar and dj, and hired extras, but people keep coming in from off the street, thinking it was a real place! So paxton(first person killed)and beihn are both in this, Beihn is in Terminator 2 and the abyss, paxton in this, Aliens, true lies, titanic. There's a huge tie in here. Starting with alien. The race of beings, the guy in the big chair, is an Engineer! They seed life on planets and if they don't like how the life is progressing, they seed another life to wipe out the first then kill each other! Engineers created Aliens human and supposedly predators and gave humans the technology to create terminators and replicants! Replicants are Bladerunner and Tyrell corp, aliens are associated with Weyland Corp , Terminator are associated with Cyberdyne systems. Dallas, in Alien, shows his resume as a previous pilot for Tyrell corp 😮😮😮. Beihn and Paxton would hang out in Cameron's trailer after the days shooting. How prolific was Cameron? Beihn said, while hanging out, Cameron was story boarding Terminator 2, Aliens and the abyss, all at the same time, while filming this!😮😮