How Women Rate You Based On Height
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- Опубликовано: 16 май 2024
- Chris and Macken Murphy discuss how much height actually matters to women. How big of a factor is height according to Macken Murphy? What other traits do women look for according to Macken Murphy? How do men view height in women according to Macken Murphy?
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I reposted this here.
---> Tall Women die more often alone, Tall Women have fewer children or more often no children, Tall Women have fewer relationships with Men, Tall Women have less Sex, Tall Women are more depressed, all this because a Tall Woman is waiting for a Tall Man; but Tall Men want Short Women not Tall Women. So, Tall Women are themselves their bane of their existence.
Now...this next sentence is hard as I forget what this is called, but the crank/angle in a Woman's neck is important, at a certain age this is the angle She had to tilt her head up to look at her Father, maybe when She was 4-5 years old. As an adult; this is what She instinctively is looking for, it usually tends then to be a 6'2"-5" Man.
So, in a World where all this is true, Tall Women pass on Men shorter than them; and without knowing; they die a little each time.
I'm 5'7". I was rejected by a woman shorter than me specifically because I wasn't over 6' tall. But I've also been pursued by women taller than me. And most of my relationships were with women around my height.
Based on my experience, it just depends on the woman. I never thought a 5'11" female high jumper would be interested in me, but she was. And I never thought a woman shorter than me would reject me over my height, but she did.
My advice is to take care of yourself, be fit, and present yourself well. There's nothing you can do about your height so don't even give it a second thought. The right ones will like you and the wrong ones won't.
I'm 5'7 and never had a woman say anything to me about height and I've had far too many relationships
@@Amfortas Yeah, I only had the one woman specifically say I was too short (and she ended up marrying a basketball player). Other than that, it's never been an issue.
@@AmfortasWhere you live makes a huge difference. I'm 5'7" as well and it was not a problem in California, but it's a BIG deal in Texas.
I've had the same experience - short women have been far more vocal about wanting tall men than average height women.
I think height does play a factor. I've dated mostly girls a bit shorter to shorter than me. But on one date, a girl wore heels and she was a bit taller than me and she apologized about it.
The problem isn’t women preferring taller men, the problem is how freakishly high women’s overall standards are nowadays thanks to simps on social media inflating all their egos.
As long as we do so little to help ourselves and so much to contribute to the problem, we have no right to complain.
The modern world simply makes men and women less appealing to each other for LTRs.
💯 % Instagram has ruined women. and pornography has ruined men.
@@brianmeen2158
It’s the men who are to blame. If there were no simps, social media wouldn’t have inflated women’s egos and standards.
I don't know who these women are that you speak of. Where do you live and what do you do that puts you in contact with such shallow people?
I switched my dating profile from 5’11” to 6’ and my matches went up dramatically
Doubt
@@Amfortas don’t care what you think
If you put 5'12" women would probably still think you're too short
@@eat_ze_bugs there is truth in that
I did and immediately got more likes/matches as well
nah tall women got it so much easier than short men, the "tall girl problem" is that they want to find a guy taller than them and rejecting dudes that are around her height/shorter, sounds privileged asf
Not true, in my school tall girls and when I say tall I mean around 173-177 date guys that as much as them or just slightly more or even shorter guys.
@@yellowwall3471cause there are only so many chads above 6ft
@lightningbolt4419 its genuine relationships. Height is not the number one thing women look for in a man here in Greece. This 6ft BS is something of an issue in the US as far as I am concerned.
@@yellowwall3471Yeah but they date and she short guys dont. Who has it worse?
Exactly, tall girl problem is just tall women suffering from Hypergamy. It's not men rejecting them, its them doing what most women of all heights do, limiting their options.
Being 5'8' can say it SUPREMELY matters to women
No. Only to American women. It’s not a universal thing. Because here, society KEEPS FREAKIN repeating weird things like “tall, dark, and handsome” as some biblical standard. It’s NOT a real thing. It’s made up. Then entire generations in d last few centuries have been repeating that trash to their kids.
It’s a virus. Specific to a single culture. It can b remedied, if and only if, people tried to look outside their bubble and realized that there’s a world out there, and there’s immense beauty and incredible ideas/norms out there. 🙄
There’s a reason y nature prefers variety and connections.
5’8 is a lot better than 5’4.
As a short guy I've noticed that the only women who have expressed interest in me were Latinas. They are also the only ones who don't start off conversations by asking for my height
Take the Latinapill 🗣️🔥🔥
I'm 5'5" and I can confirm this is accurate. They don't demand extremely high standards for physical attractiveness.
Incels are largely right about their observations on human sexual behavior.
Always have been about a lot of things
its not not what the mainstream wants to hear thats why they are shamed. Man without hope and purpose are the most dangerous man for society so they need to keep the narrative that height doesnt matter.
Yeah because of scientists who actually study the topic lol but people still deny a lot of the stuff even though data supports the incel theories :D
I met a woman online and picked her up in my mustang once, and we had a great time talking and driving around and smoking for 3 hours. She was smiling the whole time and even felt up on my leg and body. Then we got out of the car and she saw i was 5'7 and all the color disappeared from her face. She went "ohh wow ur short....". Then we walked up to the front of the bar and she suddenly said 'i dont feel like going out anymore, just take me home', and i never heard from her again.
So yeah😂 ive had multiple situations like that one where every other variable is removed and women love me, and then my height enters the equation and women dip and i never hear from them again
Clown world
So you picked her up from the kerb?
I mean how did you never get out of your car?
that's terrible. its insane how women can do that but when its about weight, if u even MENTION weight ur instantly evil and mysoganistic. like image u saw a girl you were going out with, and she had a condition so no matter what she did she couldn't loose the weight, and u still said, "Wow... your really fat." even though she COULDNT change it.
@@BWater-yq3jx I pulled up to her house, texted 'Im here', and she came out and got in passenger. We were actually supposed to head straight to the bar, but instead she just started talking to me and we found a shady spot and chilled for an hour. Then we picked up some green and she got out and bought it and came back. So yeah all in all I didn't actually step out my side for a few hours
@@BWater-yq3jx I pulled up to her house, texted 'Im here', and she came out and got in passenger. We were actually supposed to head straight to the bar, but instead she just started talking to me and we found a shady spot and chilled for an hour. Then we picked up some green and she got out and bought it and came back. So yeah all in all I didn't actually step out my side for a few hours
Please tall girls have it 100000 times better than short men.
Yeah dating is relatively easy for most women regardless.
yup, I love how in this podcast they quickly gloss over the male struggles in the beginning but then make up a nonsensical phenomen for tall females which doesnt even exist and if it does is actually just a result of many tall women just needing even taller guys. It's self inflicted.
Meh i think its a but more nuanced than that
@@loverofhumanity Tall girls do have some difficulty with dating, but it is way overblown. Some men are insecure about dating taller women and women often have a psychological barrier about being too tall. These can both affect their potential options although they have it easier than guys who are too short, >6'.
I'm 6'0 and sometimes I feel like even that doesn't cut it these days anymore. Never mind that I'm taller than 97% of women and 85% of men in my country.
As a taller guy myself I’ll always stand with my shorter bros and call out height-double standards/hypocracy everytime I hear/sense it from a woman. And it’s funny how easily you can make them see that they mistreated alot of men without realizing it themselfs.
One example that I like to use with them is: “What if you could filter bra size in dating apps like bumble/tinder? What if guys would write “only girls with C+” - guess that would create a big outcry by most women, while demanding a height requirement/filter seems to be perfectly fine”
Heck yes! Literally had this discussion with my wife the other day! I'm 6'2" and I stand with my ShortKings!
lol, we found the tops!
@@richiejones1878 She thought it was a valid comparison.
I’m 52 years old. I’m my experience, it’s one of the most important things to women.
My wife kept referring to me as short. I am not particularly short, but I am shorter than average. I am taller than 37% of American males. After years of just taking it, when she was pregnant and distressing that our children will be short (and implying it's due to my lineage), I laughingly and annoyed calculated that she was actually only in the 16th percentile for American females and that she was the one significantly bringing down the average. She no longer calls me short.
Get rid of her, honestly.
She has no respect for you if she kept on emasculating you like that.
There is no such thing as "height gene"...
@@rafaelmartinelli9377of course there is, what are you smoking? Of the 11 men across three generations on my moms side one is 5'8", one is 6'0" and the other 9 are between 6'3"-6'6". You dont randomly get 9 people in the 99th percentile in one family, height is absolutely heritable.
@@flacjacket No its not, genetics is one of several other factors that determine an individual’s height. My cousin's parents are below average in terms of height, and he ended up being almost the double of their size, and i saw this happen to several other people. I suggest you stop consuming this "red pill" trash and study a little.
Next week "How much do men ACTUALLY care about weight"?
And weight is temporary, height is essentially unchangeable lol
Men don’t care about weight as much as they care about body fat %. Some women especially girls who are into their fitness could weigh more than men simply because of genetic factors. Yet their body fat percentage will be very normal. I dated a girl who’s 5 10 when I’m 6 foot and she probably weighed more than me even tho she had a low body fat percentage (Curvy, plus had very big legs)
Funny enough men don't care about weight that much. We care much more about what that weight is made of and how you wear it
A lot
A lot of men care about weight. Most men don't want to date a woman who is obese or overweight.
I am very short 5’3. When I was younger, I wished I was taller to attract more girls. My saving grace is I am not ugly…about average looks. Now I am way older, married with children, I focus on making money, raising a family, and take care of myself.
Short Answer: Yes
Long story short: Yes
@@chrisallwhite .......you got the pun, right?
@@naisyjohnsit was a good pookie
Long answer: Yes it does, but who cares
Shorter answer: no
If you're maximizing looks, you're likely to attract people who's highest value is looks. Become a competent, well rounded person and you'll probably start finding the same
“The same” meaning people who value looks?
@@freeottis😅 life lesson
@@freeottis it's human nature to value looks lol
Based answer.
People want looks not smart competent well rounded people. Did you not think about that before typing?
Every woman who asks for a dude over 6’ needs to show up to the date with a scale they’re willing to step on. Dudes will wait.
Won't happen. Stay mad lol
@alexisc7565 we know it won’t happen cause that would require women to be accountable. Tisk tisk sweetheart.
No problems
@@garydossett6688 It also requires men to hold women accountable, which wont happen.
Have you seen men nowadays? They need to bring their own scale and a tape measurer.
I don't have a problem women preferring taller men, especially women who are tall themselves or even just developed early so they were 'bigger' than the boys in grade school. I get that.
The 4'11 woman who wants a 6'3 man, now that is ridiculous....
BTW - this prejudice extends to board rooms as well. An 'Executive' under 6' is not a Unicorn but still pretty damn rare
It's probably not a direct prejudice but a vicious or virtuous cycle.
The child that grows up tall gets rewarded, encouraged, and has advantages for opportunities which leads to further opportunities and advantages. The opposite being true for exceptionally short people. This is a systemic part of the culture.
This has lead to a strong correlation that height greatly predicts the winner of presidential races. Which has led some candidates, possibly Desantis, to wear lifts and special shoes.
It's nature. A lion doesn't have to prove it's a lion. As a very tall guy, I don't have anything to prove besides my ability to fit in small spaces. There isn't much I can't learn that requires physical skills, I don't ever have to worry about someone picking a fight with me, and I'm naturally decent at public speaking due to thousands of strangers asking me how tall I am each year and even more than that staring at me everywhere I go. Tall w/ short is the ultimate "opposites attract". My fiancé and I have a 21" height difference. I always felt odd walking with a really tall girl. I think it's amazing that they are tall but it's never been for me.
@@New_Identity out of interest, how tall?
@BenjaminBadbrother Yeah it's just a positive feedback loop.
@@RibeyesteakSachertorte 6'9
5'4 here. I gave up 20 years ago. F their fat body positivity while judging me by something I was born with.
Jesus loves you 💞
If Jesus loved short men, He wouldn't have made them short.
@@jackhowe6 Our lives are short, the day you were born isn't so far away from the present, and neither will your death. Materialistic values on earth are temporary, but understanding of sacrifice of Jesus warrants a reward that lasts for an eternity.
@@turtle-ot2qcjust stop.
@@jurassicthunder I'm sorry that you're hurt, but now that I mention it, you'll probably remember this memory and I hope I can engrain it into your head. If you die without God's grace, then you will reap immense pain. Have a blessed day ❤️
Good morning to all you short kings, finally Chris has asked the real questions.
calling urself a "short king" is where u start losing
@@perzonne6302how so? I think males could definitely do with some positivity and mutual affirmation
@@mark9294 that's not positivity. That's actually a negative patronizing label. I genuinely find it weird when people use that label. As if your calling someone not a real king. No he's not a king, he must have that short attached to him because this is how we see him.
I agree; short isn’t something to really be proud of like being fat. Women use the bbw, to be delusional.
Men shouldn’t be delusional . being short is unfortunate but also a trial in life a strong man can flourish in being.
@@mark9294 if you keep that up all you'll have is positive affirmation from other males😂
How women chooses men is also known as eugenics
True.
I'm 6'2" and I absolutely refuse to share this information to see if that'll put them off.
6’3 and have never used a dating app (probably never will), but if I did I wouldn’t share this information because I wouldn’t want to attract superficial women who care about height.
@@greatcesari bro you think you're not attracting women superficially through your height in real life lol even more so brother
@@greatcesarisorry bro but this doesn’t make sense, unless you completely like a woman based off solely personality. I mean it’s like being super good looking and saying I’m not posting my face bc i don’t want people to want me for my face
*Main Points*
*1.* _Multiple Studies show that women prefer a certain amount of height. ''Not too short and not too tall''_
*2.* _The difference between 5.4ft and 5.8ft seems to be a big deal_
*3.* _Then it starts to taper off around 6.1ft_
*4.* _Women mostly prefer a men that is taller than them._
*5.* _The Tall Girl Problem= Taller Girls have a rougher time on the dating market._
*6.* _Educated Women are more married and less divorced than less educated women._
*7.* _Things get better. In Europe, women are becoming more and more willing to date hypogamously so we're seeing much more of these pattern where super educated women_
_are like ''You know what? Sexy plumber, sexy firefighter. Let's have it_ 😍
*Funfact:* *_The average male american height is 5.9, but on dating apps 6.1 (But it is not 100% researched)_*
*Sidenote:* *_These studies looked mainly at ONLINE preferences._* *_And a preference, is just a preference after all_*
More fun facts: in the western half of the US, men are taller than East of the Mississippi River. In my home state of Utah, the average male height is just under 5'11''!
@@stevecooper7883 same i live in minnesota and the average height here for young men spesifically (age 18 to 25) is 5,11.
College educated women initiate divorce more often than non college educated women.
@@stevecooper7883east coast has more Southern European lineage so that makes sense
Exactly. It's just a preference, but not a requirement. I can't tell you how many guys I see with beautiful women who are considerably shorter than me, and I'm a little over 5'10". If it was that strict, none of these guys would have girlfriends or wives, let alone attractive ones with great personalities. In real life, many other factors can outweigh a lack of tallness (and please, it's not just wealth, although sure it helps; work on everything else first, get some dating experience, and then tell me all they're looking for is height and wealth). It's similar to how we all prefer women with say, a more generous posterior or bust, or a beautiful face, but plenty of us would be willing to date a thinner girl, or even a girl who's pretty but isn't stunning (I can't tell you how many times I've found a girl beautiful who would not make the cut for a modeling gig, but I still found her very pretty; they're not ugly, just not stunning - you know the phenomenon I'm talking about brother,), if she had a lot of other qualities we valued, and it happens every day. It's the same for women in my experience. They don't value the same things we do mind you, but they're willing to make a trade off for other qualities they want. Build yourself up in those areas, make yourself valuable, and height won't prevent you from finding someone to share your life with, not working on those other factors will. Just look around and tell me with a straight face that shorter than average men can't be with great women, and that all women only get romantically involved with 6 foot rich guys. Exactly.
I’ve lost count how many times I’ve been rejected solely on my height. That’s literally been the sole deal breaker for so many women.
How tall are you, just curious?
how do you know though? with a good ceirtanty?
I have a hard time believing that tall women have it worse than short men in the dating market.
The average male height on dating apps is 6'1? Why?
Dating app users probably skew younger, so taller.
Men are likely to lie about their heights.
The shortest men are likely to not even bother with dating apps.
Women on dating apps swipe left and right the vast majority of the time based on facial attractiveness. Sure, some women will not match a dude because he is not 6 feet, but that is a small percentage of women.. Dudes with attractive faces also have a way better chance of that women actually meeting him and taking it serious... Average face guys that list themselves as 6'4 and receive matches may talk with the women for a bit, but the woman is way more likely to be hesitant to actually meet him
Most women set their height filter at 6', so they wouldn't even see the face of a man under that height.
If a woman prioritizes height, move on to other quality women. I'm taller than average and it still annoys me 😅
You’re taller than average so you don’t know what it’s like
@@freeottisI’m 5’6 and even I can empathize with him dude. I get turned down because I’m short, that’s fine. But when someone likes me, I’m confident they like me for me. He has to deal with shallow women who may only be interested in his height, and people are much more than that.
@@freeottis Right, but it doesn't mean I have to entertain a woman's idea of meeting a minimum preferable height. Even if I was short or average, this is the same mindset I'd have.
@@themacocko6311 Height is out of one's control; weight largely isn't.
Good luck finding one that doesn't care if you're 5'3
Our family are all tall, but one of our daughters met a guy in college who is only 5’4”. They have three teenagers now, including a short son. She never considered it an issue, thankfully.
So is the son shorter than his mom? That'd be super interesting to see because I read somewhere that it's biologically very rare for a son to be shorter than his mom unless he was extremely malnourished growing up or he had a growth disorder or something.
Poor son, hopefully he grows up.
R.I.P to the son
"She never considered it an issue, thankfully."
When your daughter's son starts to find himself constantly rejected and it starts to effect him emotionally, she will realize it is an issue.
Thays an outlier. 5 ft 4 is very short.
I wonder if the imperial system being in feet/inches is the reason to such a high threshold of 6 foot (183cm), mainly being a round number.
In the metric world, I would say 180cm (5ft 11) is more often the threshold for a lot of women.
This is exactly the crazy thing. The biggest cutoff criterium is a arbitrary round number…. In most of europe the biggest cutoff is 180cm and in US it is 6ft. While in many eiropean countries the average height is more than in the US.
Well said
Definitely a difference between online preferences and who women are actually attracted to in person.
Absolutely. 6'-1" typed in your profile and displayed in tiny font on a 4" screen is a whole lot different than 6'-1" standing two feet in front of the girl.
Agree; 5'11" IRL is quite tall, but even that's discriminated against online.
Short King pulls for a reason. Personality transcends everything.
No difference between real life and online lol women are overwhelmingly attracted to taller men
I have a friend that literally told me that she only wants someone 6 ft or taller.
why we still asking these questions, YES they do
Because we still hope it’s not true for some reason
@freeottis women want to feel protected by their man, it's not rocket science 🙄
What we should be asking is, why do so many refuse to accept it?
every day another boy turns 18 and needs to learn this
"Tall girl problem" is that tall girls have a hard time finding men taller than them, and a lot of the shorter guys they've dated are either insecure about the height difference or, if he actually isn't, she's convinced that he is based off her previous relationships.
I'm 5'7" and have dated taller, shorter and the same height as me, makes no difference at all to me as long as we click
Everyone bases their experience off of dating apps. I am 5'10, I didn't start struggling with dating at all until 2015 when dating apps started really taking off and I started using them way too much myself. Any "struggles" I did have before then were my own fault. Stop trying to use dating apps to find dates and anyone would have much more success. If dating apps weren't so commonly used now we would be having a lot less of these conversations and videos
How about the guys who do have success on dating apps?
@@gj9157You mean the 28-30 year old 6’2 chad models that are .05% of the population? Sure they will have it easy on dating apps
Anyone who says it doesn’t matter has NOT been a single man in his 30’s. It not only matters it is most women’s absolutly a women’s number one requirement.
agreed always have been the full package except five foot 5.
Pretty accomplished but no women ever wanted anything from me.
5'8" here, but from France so I don't know if the same metrics applies, but I never really had a problem getting women. My wife is 5'10", never had a shorter man before, but she said it had something to do with my confidence.
As a shorter guy, I can tell you, you gotta find a shorter girl. It’s math.
😊😊😊
And then you see a 5’1 girl with a 6’4 guy and think, “man….of all the ones you picked” lol.
I'm 5'6, but I've dated girls from 5'2 to 5'10. Having personality can help, but having insecurity definitely hurts
The sad part is short women often subconsciously crave tall men to compensate for their short genes.
Sorry can I ask how tall you are? 😁 as in when would a guy call himself short
Interestingly I also thought I would marry a guy that was taller than me. Part of this assumption was most likely due to my dad being 6'1" and my mom being 5'2". I'm 5'6" and my husband is 5'6" as well. Personality was much more meaningful than height.
@@richiejones1878Jesus loves you 💓
It depends on the culture. In the US and UK, a lot. In Germany, not as much. The men are still taller, but the women are surprisingly tall.
I'm looking for a woman under 160 pounds without kids.....impossible.
I used to get a pretty regular amount of matches on bumble before they forced to add your height.
I added my height (5’9”) and my matches dropped to zero
The fact that bumble, an app that prioritizes women’s wants and needs (or at least claims to), mandated that users list their height says all you need to know
@@AngelofJustice412 yeah, I deleted it several years ago
Also, I remember many years ago on bumble males could search for “body types” (eg. Athletic, curvy, etc). But they took that function out and kept height
I guess it is an app made for … obese girls that are attracted to guys 6’ or taller 🤷♂️
@@themacocko6311
That was true a few years ago but now most women have used dating apps. Once they have, they take all that superficial stuff into the real world. So once they do "Under 6' swipe left" online, they start doing that in the real world.
Im 5'7 my dating app times i was a ghost.
thats mostly because of people on those apps, maybe use diferent apps or try to do the (admitedly dificult) thing of just meeting women in real life
Chris Williamson, are you the one that does the voice for Wojak?
Most women do care, yet most women on social media will deny it and say it's just a "skill issue" because their gender bias causes them to deny anything about their side that they perceive as making their side look bad or superficial.
a taller man does catch my attention..BUT acouple of my biggest crushes were confident guys with personality to spare- both about my height (5'5")....
Agree, I did the same thing for the same reason: the confidence and his ability to set boundaries taught me so much. ❤
Can't out win a confident tall guy though.
@@gj9157Can with a lesser facially attractive taller guy tho
The answer according to every girl I've dated or even been close friends with is yes.
Would be interesting to have a jubilee-style video where girls guess random guys' heights. I wonder if most girls think 5’10” is 6 ft because of how 6’ is treated as normal height.
Height matters. However, if you're getting rejected at average height, it's most likely that she doesn't find you attractive but citing height is a gentler form of rejection than telling him he's unattractive. Unless they're also tall themselves, most women can't even visually distinguish heights between the 5'10"-6'0" range
Nah some of us saw it in real time : Hitting it off really well but once she realize you are short she excuses herself. Like you are sitting or in a car and once you stand up the whole dynamic changes.
@@jeanbob1481 But how often is that, and whats your height?
I'm 5'11
Only 14.5 percent of men in America are over 6'0" ! And most are lying about being six feet tall LOLOLOLOL. At a true 6'4" and a 1/4 women really don't know how tall I am !
I’m dating a man who’s just a bit taller than me. It really doesn’t matter that much if you find someone attractive and interesting enough to go on a first date with.
I think the problem is that in real life its just a preference, or 'in an ideal world he would be X' but if you get to know someone who's values and personality gel well with your own, it's easily overlooked. However online, where you're just literally checking boxes to narrow down options, those connections are missed because of some arbitrary metric that has no bearing on the relationship whatsoever.
Or they just have too many options to choose from.
@@gj9157 online they do, I don't think they have any more options in real life than any other time.
Absolutely false height is the most important thing to women online or not
@@AlmostlessThanHuman if that were true there wouldn't be any short men in relationships would there? I can think of some well known short men that seem pretty happily married as well as normal guys I know in real life, and most people will.
@tempsoda Most aren't actually, most short men are excluded from the dating pool.
Height has few if any underlying signals about behaviors and health.
Weight can signal underlying issues concerning behaviors and health.
No, but tymhe chances of having "tall sons" is higher with the tal guy. It's genetics and it's built into women.
My husband is only about an inch taller than me. I'm 5ft 7. I have a bit of a thing for shorter guys. Tall men do nothing for me.
Speak that real shi
Facetilt - David Buss. It explains height preference from an evolutionary perspective.
Im 5'2" and have to admit, my options when dating were limited. Now im old and it doesn't matter any more, but when i cared, it did a lot. Women instinctively want to feel small.
It would be interesting to study the variance of preferences among women depending on their own height, not just the average. In my experience and intuition, there are a couple intervals. Very short women seem to be happy with a man taller than them even if he's not tall by modern standards. Women taller than average prefer a male taller than them but are willing to date one who's the same height or shorter. And the taller they are, the more willing they are to compromise. It's the ones around the 5"4 average who care about male height the most and are most vocal and stringent about it.
5'6, Wife is 5'2. With that being said, I've always thought 5'8 and up are my preference.
His Cap looks nice, does someone know the brand
Approximately 70% of women on dating apps won’t accept a man below 6 foot. 85% won’t accept a man below 5’10” (the average height in tall countries). It’s over.
It's not over over. We just need to make money, live in the gym, and use our passports to go to countries that use the metric system and have shorter women.
Not sure which statistic you cited, but from what I know it's 50/50% for 5'8, 85% for 5'10 and 99% for 6'0. It only gets really bad at around 5'7.
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You’re forgetting, dating apps represent real life. Social media has warped women’s standards to be significantly higher than ever. A large portion of men are hopeless.
@@brianmeen2158 Cold approaching your chances of being rejected are 99%. Thats like buying a lottery ticket and thinking thats how you get money because eventually you might win.
And bro thinks face is most important lol
The average select by women on Tinder and Bumble is 6'4 so set your height to that.
I am 5'11 and have been on 82 dates and non of them noticed so only worry about their height in comparison.
would be hard for me as 5"7 lol
@@Arejen03 I wouldn't even bother with dating apps at that point
I see so many 8+ women going with 5"8-5"10 men usually boy band lookalikes
im 6'3 im glad i have at least one thing going for me lol most happy i have a mrs so i dont have to deal with this crap anymore though
Ya, i watched this one. The questions I would like to have answered is "what compensates for having mental health issues, and no job prospects?" Who cares if I'm 6'4" (since I was 15, 45 now) it doesn't matter when you're unstable and live on gov assistance. Even the college degree I got (psychology, go figure) doesn't seem to do much. I'd rather be short then a bundle of red flags.
I imagine that in the swiping world of today, where any decent looking woman is overwhelmed by choice, it's a convenient way of reducing the numbers. Women have more to go on than such simplistic factors irl, but all else being equal they're still going to choose based on height.
Huge roll
I dont think I've ever thought about height as a requisite for dating. Im only 5ft4, so most men are taller than me anyway😂 I've not dated many people, but no man I've been in a relationship with has been taller than 5ft11. I tend to go for average height guys..
I would like to see that European study about hypogamy dating. Anyone know the title?
I'm also curious about this.
I am 10 feet tall and I can say, yes they do
5’10 gang
5’11 gang burntOrangepill
I'm 5 7 never had a problem getting girls. I'm sure I've been filtered out by a lot of girls but I'm 32 with a BC of 30+ including a 5 year monogamous relationship and multiple 2 years. I think it helps I stay in shape and train combat sports
Funny phenomenon, im same height as Chris 5"10 but i also have almost only taller male friends. Im not short by no means, but when you're around them with them out, you're suddenly the "short guy". lol
I've listed myself as 6'3-6'4 on a dating app before. 6'8 seems to intimidate the ladies. Not so much in person, but on paper they seem to think 6'8 YIKES
You got a niche market though
From the naked eye. 5'10-6'0 almost looks the same, it's crazy 😭.
Nah, it doesn’t. But maybe. But it also doesn’t matter ❤
Yep. The media just brain washed brainless women into thinking it’s some big difference.
So women with 6' minimum filters
Are missing out on all the 5.9"
5.10" 5.11"
Who could be a better match or a billionaire lol
@@kitkakitteh „Yes but no, also it doesn’t matter.“ Thanks for the input 😂
@@kitkakittehSo it does matter.. lol
I think it's important to emphasize the sources being cited (Speed-dating, Dating Apps, Stated Preferences). It is all low-engagement first impressions. Vibes and actions are significantly more important when it comes to attracting women (for long-term relationships), and that just doesn't bear out in those kind of environments. I guarantee, if you compared the kinds of men women have dated/are dating to their stated preferences, there would be major discrepancies. This is even true with men when it comes to valuing girls' looks. The reality is that if you meet someone you click with (emotionally, comedically, whatever) you would date them in a heartbeat even if they didn't quite meet your ideal preferences.
It isn’t black and white. Both “look’s, and personality traits” are equally important for LT relationships. Certain level of mutual physical attraction needs to be met.
Wrong height is a single most important thing to women if you are below her minimum threshold then odd of it happening is slim to none regardless of the other things
@@renachiiuwu6463 It is undeniable that there needs to mutual physical attraction. Looks are almost always important in terms of getting your foot in the door. You're probably never getting a date if your vibes+looks score doesn't meet a certain threshold, but once you're actually dating, you're generally only moving forward by maintaining vibes and having good character.
I really just have an issue with the people who grossly exaggerate woman's standards and/or use their own physical attractiveness as an excuse for why they aren't pulling. Most people can look decent if they try to, so long are they aren't obese or deformed or something. The reality is most of the guys complaining about this shit either are already attractive enough or at least have the potential to be, but they either aren't talking to enough women or are too social inept to successfully court one. It's also possible their own standards are too high. Based on a couple of my friends and statements from other dudes online, I think porn, anime, IG models, Hollywood, or any combination of the four have broken their minds as to what normal women actually look like.
@@DaDainDan "grossly exaggerate women standards" no one's exaggerating anything bud but it's literally what they asked for themselves
@@DaDainDan says anime is a problem has a cartoon profile pic lol bro I don't watch anime and I haven't watched porn in like a year and a half worse decision of my life by the way because the majority of women consider you just above the moral equivalent of a rapist or murderer just because you're sub 5'5
as a legit 5'10 person (was measured 179cm at doctors office, which is not accurate imo, im more 177-178 later in the day), I never get called short. Infact I've been called tall a few times (obviously only by old people/asians, not young people). But that's because most people add 1-2 inches to their height, so most people claiming 6ft are probably my height. So yeah, never experienced height discrimination (besides in my family as my brothers and dad are all taller than me lol)
ur not short, im 5"7, im short.
I'm five foot four and I like a guy anywhere from five foot six to six foot, but my experience is the closer in height to me the better the sex. I think the Kamasutra advises you to go with similar height and build to yourself and I see why. Physical compatability. Also guys over six feet tend to be jerks because they're in demand.
Thats what am sayin best boxing matches ever go pound for pound, well sex is the same lets go height for hieght or close and lets let love have a preference over vanity.
I think it does make a big difference for men, but not quite as much as we think it does. When I was in my teen years I was around 6'2", but was far less successful in dating than guys who were a solid 4-5 inches shorter than me because I was a spaz. Women do like the initial "oo he's tall", but they also are far better at looking at guys for their non physical attributes.
Not necessarily. Height is desirable but just because ur 6’2 doesn’t make you necessarily physically attractive. These 4-5 inches shorter guys could’ve been seen as more physically attractive because it’s a combination of things. Attractive face, broad shoulders, athletic, deep voice etc height isn’t the only physically attractive trait.
@@renachiiuwu6463 Fair point!
Im 20ft11 and i gotta admit sometimes its a struggle😢
Never in my life heard a woman say her ideal man was short. Short men are universally seen less attractive and there is no short man who wouldnt look better if he were taller.
No kidding, I’ve actually heared in IRL from some, one of them being a particularly beautiful woman who was herself around 5’9 / 5’10 who told that she preferred the proportions of men being on the shorter spectrum - but yeah, those of course are the minority - but then you also have to consider, when women say tall, we often overestimate what they are looking for in real life (and broad shoulder and other features can compensate quite a bit) - only online dating with a focus on numbers is kinda toxic in terms of height preferences
@@JeffreyWongOfficial Sure women like that exist but they are outliers. I think when women say tall they mean 5'11 and up. That is where a noticeable difference from average height (5'9) begins. I dont think that is an overestimation. When most say tall they mean relative to the height of other men not to their own height. I dont think a 5'2 girl would consider a 5'8 or 5'9 man tall even though they have decent height difference.
I also think the impact of broad shoulders is overvalued. Its not a make or break trait like height can be and it only really helps taller men. I doubt a short guy with broad shoulders would see any significant boost from it.
@@cseptember6562 as a short 5ft5 guy I have the impression that when I am in really good shape it helps a lot. Still I would prefer to be 5ft10 to being muscular
At a party I (5ft5 )once met a girl who was there with her boyfriend(in an open relationshoip) who was maybe also like 5ft7 ish and she actually hit on me and told me she kinda likes shorter guys and she also tried to kiss me….
And on another occasion one girl in my friendgroup said that she usually goes for shorter guys when we were discussing ex partners and so on
@@cseptember6562 well, there still are plenty of shorter/average height guys with girlfriends. In academia for example you often see intellectual overachievers with beautiful and highly educated women despite them being not exactly overachievers in the height department. So yeah, I think - also for women (who aren’t by any means a homogenous hivemind) - we men are a mixed bag of traits, similar to how women are to us. Some features society and you might value higher than others (usually on an individual basis), yet it ultimately is a blend of those. Like a very attractive and sophisticated female once said to me: “well, if he’s a handsome doctor with a good family-background, which woman would care if he’s 5’7 or 6’3?”
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No idea why I'm watching this segment because I'm a short girl (154cm, about 5 1). But it's sad to see so many boys in the comments feel insecure about their height. Er, I'm just one opinion but I think for both sexes, proportion is probably important as well and might be able to override 'shortness disadvantage'. Taller people in general have better proportions, although that's not set in stone. So that probably explains why some taller women are open to shorter men: he might have a nice character but also be good at styling himself in a way that makes his proportions look good. Good luck everyone!
I doubt you get diminished returns after just 6’1” maybe 7’1”
Very true. I'm pretty sure women the vast majority of women left swipe on average faced dudes that are 6'4 all day, but if they see him listed as 6'8, quite an alarming percentage of women would match if his face is at least decent..
I don't think height in and of itself counts for much in terms of attractiveness - I think it can act as a multiplier for what's there, so that with two guys of similar physical attractiveness (height aside), the 6' guy is more likely than the 5'8" guy. But on its own? Nah.
I didn’t watch the video. A lot. Glad I could help.
I switched my profile height from 6’2 to 6’3 and still don’t get any matches
That's essentially no difference. There's diminishing returns after 6'1''
Ya fr
My mom is 4’11 and my dad is 6’1.
The de facto cut-off that women insist on imposing is 6'0" on dating apps since they're naturally afforded an abundance of options. It essentially renders any guy below that arbitrary threshold SOL through no fault of his own. And the byproduct of this reality is that it encourages men to lie about their height, which cyclically poisons the dynamic for both parties.
$100k. One study found that when comparing men of different heights and incomes being over 6' was equal to a shorter man earning 100k...
Wow guys, we figured out that 6’1-6’3 is the perfect height range(with 6’2 being the gold standard 10/10 height).
My brother is 6'9", his wife is 5'2"
I can say from personal experience that they are both insecure in their heights and are with each other based partly on this common thread. For good measure, men like short women in order to appear more masculine OR/AND for a 'beard' because of sexuality concerns *no judgement* short women want tall men in order to feel small *even if overweight*
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I'm 6'2" and cape for short men 🤗
Your brother ruins his genetics
lol the backwards cap exposes the dark tetrad
Weird that filtering on height is kisher, but men can't filter on breast or butt size. What's the difference? They are both superficial attributes.
I’m curious about the wealthy woman getting married more is the same across races and if said wealthy women made their own money beforehand
To me is crazy how people think you are short if you’re height is between “5”7 - “5”10 but you are actually average height
Well 5'9" is the average height for adult males in the US, as Chris mentioned - but someone who's 5'7" is exactly the 25th percentile/shorter than 75% of men, and 5'10" is taller than 60%+ of men.
I agree people's perspective on height is really warped and way too much energy's wasted caring about something so superficial and pointless, but they're specifically talking about relative height dating preferences here and the range you gave is pretty huge and not representative of the average, according to the official data (which is publicly available from the CDC's 2015-2016 national height survey, if anyone wants to check it out).
5’11 never really had any problems with women. Definitely shorter than most of my friends but I’m funny and dress decent I think it helps.
5’11 isn’t short it’s above average and a desirable height. Women don’t just go for the tallest guy, they also consider an attractive face, bmi etc.
It accounts for 33% of a woman’s attraction scale. Which is the leading metric of all the stated preferences.
Im 6 foot and I dont mind tall ladies. But I am not getting a lot of matches with them, my gut feeling is that the tall girls are looking for the really tall guys. So not really helping themselves
I am a medium man (175 cm; 5'9"), and I have a strong fondness of taller women.
It's difficult to get a date with one, because women over 175 cm are already rare, and (as you said), most of these rare women only consider men who are even taller than them.
I was in a conversation in Asia with some ex pats. Someone asked why the men were dating both races but the women weren’t. One of the women said that it was that she didn’t want to date someone shorter and the others slowly nodded in agreement. This was in a group who otherwise had positive attitudes towards the concept of diversity. At the time, I was shocked by the dual standard.
So as a 5'3 (160cm), what am I supposed to do?
Get a passport. Sixpack and six figures help as well.
So would a taller than average woman be more open to dating a shorter guy?
No, they're less likely to, as the general rule for women is that they want a partner at least taller than them.
I did, I am a Dutch 1.85m tall woman. I found that it takes a confident man to not care or even like it that I am taller. And confidence is very attractive! I also had a shorter guy lead me through my first ever tango, very confident with firm grip and lead, it was amazing!😊
@@EowynRises In my experience taller guys tend to be more confident, which may be part of why they're considered more attractive.
@@EowynRises Thanks for sharing your experience. I am a Dutch-American man living in California.
I've been curious to know how to meet single women in person who are taller than me (175 cm). I have a strong fondness of taller women, and would be thrilled to date one.
nah, tall woman want tall man, short woman want tall man
Always wondered where the milky bar kid would end up…
Other than not being attracted to men over 6ft, I don’t think about height. I have dated short men from 5ft 5 to 5ft 7 ( my second longest relationship )and my husband is 5ft11 which is the tallest man, I have been with and his height had nothing to do with my attraction to him. To be honest, I would take a handsome face over height and build any day. My dad was short but my grandfather who I found intimidating was 6ft2 and my first day at school, I had this horrible teacher (the worst I have ever encountered) and he was over 6ft 2. I think that teacher could be the reason I am put off tall men.
The taller the better; however, I’m only 5’ so there’s a lot of scope 😂