This looks sus! Is the multiplication of matrices this easy? (Reddit r/mathmemes)

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  • Matrix multiplication is quite complicated but sometimes we could multiply them entry by entry. Of course, this does not work for all the matrices but only for the well-designed ones!
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Комментарии • 105

  • @blackpenredpen
    @blackpenredpen  3 дня назад +29

    New mechanic just dropped!! 196-182*0.5=7!! Most Redditors didn't get this!
    ruclips.net/video/AQiGPtbZo0I/видео.html

    • @highviewbarbell
      @highviewbarbell 3 дня назад +6

      double factorial

    • @Rando2101
      @Rando2101 3 дня назад +1

      Holy hell

    • @Gears_AndGrinds
      @Gears_AndGrinds 2 дня назад +5

      If you're gonna use the double factorial like that then you might as well define the the double factorial of "dropped" and the factorial of "this" lol

    • @Sat0ruSn1pes
      @Sat0ruSn1pes 2 дня назад

      Dude. You got my best friend to write math textbook called you can do calculus. thank you.

  • @matthewbauerle7153
    @matthewbauerle7153 2 дня назад +70

    It works for diagonal matrices because of all the zeros. If it works for anything else it’s a happy accident.

  • @johnchestnut5340
    @johnchestnut5340 3 дня назад +193

    You "broke" the pattern with a green pen. Black and Red alone were expected. We entered another dimension/world? Thank you for the video.

    • @orangeoranges-mw2sb
      @orangeoranges-mw2sb 2 дня назад +8

      theres been videos where hes used like 4 different pens like in his all in one calc question

    • @johnchestnut5340
      @johnchestnut5340 2 дня назад +5

      @@orangeoranges-mw2sb I never suggested that this is the only instance. But having not seen all of his videos, this did break what appeared to be a pattern. It's also implied in the name.

    • @iwanadai3065
      @iwanadai3065 2 дня назад

      this feels like when they made i = sqrt(-1)

    • @stephenbeck7222
      @stephenbeck7222 2 дня назад +5

      @@johnchestnut5340 his name is already broken because we normally don’t refer to markers as pens. When he first started making videos he used a doc camera (or iPhone?) pointed at his paper notebook and used actual black and red pens on the paper. But the whiteboard videos are the best. He should get a bigger whiteboard - or make a huge chalkboard set up like his friend Michael Penn.

    • @johnchestnut5340
      @johnchestnut5340 2 дня назад

      @@stephenbeck7222 You can argue that pens are not markers and vice versa. I can argue that electric cells are not batteries unless configured together into battery. Neither is pertinent to my comment. But you have been heard.

  • @StephenMarkTurner
    @StephenMarkTurner 2 дня назад +36

    Love that "oldie but a goodie" simplification of 16 / 64.

  • @white9763
    @white9763 3 дня назад +65

    Bprp helped me so much by teaching me calculus and now he is teaching matrices? Huge W

    • @hmmm6200
      @hmmm6200 3 дня назад +2

      same.
      we started doing limits rn, theyre super easy for me thanks to this channel

    • @white9763
      @white9763 2 дня назад

      @@hmmm6200 my high school became easy asf because of our master bprp, I've seen basically everything in this channel, he made me love math, I am forever Grateful to bprp

  • @billcook4768
    @billcook4768 2 дня назад +29

    These are the math equivalent of Dad Jokes.

  • @theslickestcrabaround5588
    @theslickestcrabaround5588 2 дня назад +7

    In the beginning he goes "ok, so let's discuss what's going on" and i initially thought he was saying "ok, so that's disgusting" and really i agree

  • @Ny0s
    @Ny0s 3 дня назад +21

    I love these "wrong way but not really" rules

    • @Sat0ruSn1pes
      @Sat0ruSn1pes 2 дня назад +1

      bro wrote a book called you can do calculus

  • @lilyoy7942
    @lilyoy7942 3 дня назад +49

    r/mathmemes mentioned 🔥🔥

    • @maximilianarold
      @maximilianarold 2 дня назад +1

      Are we stupid?
      And is Jessica welcome here?

  • @mndtr0
    @mndtr0 3 дня назад +25

    It's actually product...

    • @minratos6215
      @minratos6215 2 дня назад +14

      hadamard product also known as element-wise product

    • @justsaadunoyeah1234
      @justsaadunoyeah1234 2 дня назад +10

      Euler-Gauss-Euclid-Archimedes-Leibniz-Newton-Ptolemy-Mascheroni-Shanks-Noether product

    • @asheep7797
      @asheep7797 2 дня назад +4

      obviously the EULER(-farey) product, with EULER written in 96 point, and farey optionally written in 1 point.

    • @codahighland
      @codahighland 2 дня назад

      You joke, but it is, and it has valid uses.

    • @samueldeandrade8535
      @samueldeandrade8535 2 дня назад

      ​@@minratos6215 I see you are a man of good taste ... I prefer the Kronecker product.

  • @shahaansahni
    @shahaansahni 3 дня назад +13

    Looks like a tini-mini 6th grader tried to attempt this logically 😂😂

  • @Horizon24129
    @Horizon24129 3 дня назад +8

    Tomorrow is my exam i was studying matrix and determinants this notification pop up

  • @popularmisconception1
    @popularmisconception1 2 дня назад +13

    I always hated how matrix multiplication is taught. Rows times columns errrggh.. what? Where have I been, did I make a mistake? I always get confused. So I have devised a better method. I imagine the matrices are rotated 45 degrees to right and the result matrix is like a lego brick down between them. That determines its size. Then I imagine the numbers are like balls in a tivoli machine, just waiting to fall down to their place, just block by some imaginary obstacle. Then I release both of the obstacles at once and from both sides numbers start falling in their respecive line. And the numbers that hit each other are the ones that multiply and all the numbers that hit in the same place are added and the result is the number in that place. And then I just rotate the resulting matrix 45 degrees left and put it where math teacher wants it. I don't know if I explained it right so you can imagine it, but this is what I do in my head to prevent myself from making mistakes so I don't have to think in terms of confusing rows and columns.
    There is also a way to do the same thing without the 45 degree rotation, if you just imagine the right matrix is just above the left matrix but just to the right, so the resulting matrix is just right of the first and just below the second and the multiplied vectors are basically just intersections..., but the gravity thing kinda helps me...
    I guess I better make a video. :D Maybe one day

    • @drachefly
      @drachefly 2 дня назад +7

      My linear algebra teacher did the same thing but without rotating. You just raise the second one up above and the resulting matrix fits in between them.
      Later, when I set up matrix multiplication for people who hadn't taken this particular course, I found out that this was not standard.

    • @samueldeandrade8535
      @samueldeandrade8535 2 дня назад

      If you really like blocks like that, you would love Kronecker product of matrices. Haha.

  • @galaxygamer2156
    @galaxygamer2156 3 дня назад +4

    I’m self teaching linear algebra and this video is super simple and clear to understand! I would love to see more linear algebra videos!

    • @molybd3num823
      @molybd3num823 2 дня назад +1

      I recommend watching 3Blue1Brown's "Essence of linear algebra" playlist

  • @Peter_1986
    @Peter_1986 День назад

    Element-by-element multiplication honestly feels like the most intuitive type of multiplication;
    I always thought that it was a bit weird how you are supposed to do that awkward row-column multiplication.

  • @bachvaroff
    @bachvaroff 2 дня назад +2

    That'd be the Hadamard's which is just fine…

  • @Appreciation-q9v
    @Appreciation-q9v 3 дня назад +2

    Thank you

  • @TheFastProgrammer
    @TheFastProgrammer 2 дня назад +1

    doesnt matter which video, lambert w functions sure to show up

  • @slava6105
    @slava6105 2 дня назад +1

    5:00 since regular multiplication is associative, can we add another 4 equations from multiplying matricies in reverse order (AB = BA = C, C is the wrong way)?
    Ok, some of them doesn't matter, but seeng AB=BA would be also invalid in general

  • @crtwrght
    @crtwrght 2 дня назад

    When it said "multiply matrices the wrong way" I did thought they meant column times row it got the right answer. Never even occured to me to lazy-multiply the entries.

  • @davidramos4707
    @davidramos4707 2 дня назад

    I wish I didn’t need more of this, but I really do

  • @darcash1738
    @darcash1738 2 дня назад

    Yeah this post was cool. If we equate the formulas we get b1*c2 = 0 and c1*b2 = 0. Then our other equations inform our other required zeros.
    For b1 = 0:
    c1 = 0:
    (a1 or b2 = 0) & (d1 or c2 = 0)
    b2 = 0:
    c1[a2 - c2] + c2d1 = 0
    For c2 = 0:
    c1 = 0:
    b1[d2 - b2] + b2a1 = 0
    b2 = 0:
    (c1 or a2 = 0) & (b1 or d2 = 0)
    We were given that c1, c2 = 0.
    So 6(2-4) + 4*3 = 0, which is true, which is why the post fulfills the reqs.
    Similarly for b1, b2 = 0:
    c1[a2 - c2] + c2d1 = 0
    Choose c2, c1, and a2 to be whatever; but then you have to calculate d1.
    Say c2 = 1, c1 = 2, a2 = 4.
    d1 = -6
    X. 0. 4. 0.
    2. -6. 1. Y.
    Can choose X and Y freely.

  • @Beeblebrox6868
    @Beeblebrox6868 23 часа назад

    I keep thinking I'm finally going to understand matrices but... nope.

  • @jrbaum4644
    @jrbaum4644 День назад

    Thank you for helping me on calculus 2

  • @johnbyrne1022
    @johnbyrne1022 2 дня назад +1

    It's easy to remember to dot the first row with each column on the second matrix. Then you get a number for each of those dot products. The hard part to remember is, do these numbers form a *row* or a *column* of the new matrix? I've never been able to come up with a good way to remember that, other than just memorizing it.

    • @Greenicegod
      @Greenicegod День назад +1

      I just noticed the resulting number goes in the intersection of the row and column that made it

    • @johnbyrne1022
      @johnbyrne1022 День назад

      @@Greenicegod Nice, thanks!

  • @carbon98
    @carbon98 2 дня назад

    just a reminder to watch the vampire matrix stand up maths video

  • @NobodyYouKnow01
    @NobodyYouKnow01 День назад

    "these aren't the same, but here's the system of equations where they are"

  • @Archimedes_Notes
    @Archimedes_Notes 11 часов назад

    😂😂😂😂😂.
    The gamma function should work here. Upper triangular matrices but very surprizing🎉

  • @emanuellandeholm5657
    @emanuellandeholm5657 2 дня назад

    One could also try to find examples with the dot product in the wrong order, ie. col dot row.

  • @jamescollier3
    @jamescollier3 3 дня назад +1

    Cool... 😊
    That endin lol

  • @user-iq1zw1tf3f
    @user-iq1zw1tf3f 2 дня назад

    sir rubberd the whole 7 just to cross it

  • @rishavgamerz7460
    @rishavgamerz7460 День назад

    Please explain the integral solved by RON GORDAN I am a huge fan and you explain miraculously 😊

  • @nicholasscott3287
    @nicholasscott3287 День назад

    So, are there an infinite number of matrix pairs where this sort of naive matrix multiplication works, then?

  • @nyandyn
    @nyandyn 2 дня назад

    Shift the right matrix up so that the resulting N*M matrix fits in the empty space. Then do dot product between the corresponding row and column vectors for each element in the result. Can't get it wrong accidentally that way.

  • @always_be_ur_frd
    @always_be_ur_frd День назад +1

    l want to see bprp Solving 2017IMO p3

  • @alcar32sharif
    @alcar32sharif День назад

    Scalar Multiplication vs Matrix Multiplication.

  • @Tletna
    @Tletna 3 дня назад +1

    There's nothing wrong with multiplying the same elements in each matrix. You just get a different result than the dot product....

  • @runenorderhaug7646
    @runenorderhaug7646 2 дня назад

    If i am honest I thought that this was gonna be a joke on that because there is two square matrices if the same length he flipped which matrices was in front

  • @khansahab1974
    @khansahab1974 День назад

    Can you pls do sin(x^2)=2sinx?

  • @Kavukamari
    @Kavukamari День назад

    doesnt this method of "multiplication" actually have a name and usage as well? i thought i remembered something really specific you can use this for

  • @duckyoutube6318
    @duckyoutube6318 3 дня назад +3

    This stuff really reminds me of ancient greeks, chinese, and babylonian mathematicians.
    Its all very simple logic. But from that simplicity, we get some amazingly complex problems and solutions.
    Its really sucks that so much has been lost to history. Look at where we are today with just what we have saved, created, and built upon.
    I hope everyone here knows how special it is that we are able to gather here, and talk, and learn, and grow together.

    • @apokalypthoapokalypsys9573
      @apokalypthoapokalypsys9573 2 дня назад +2

      Nothing in mathematics is lost to history. Artworks like writings and statues can be lost, because they are unique, but mathematics is objective. We can discover the exact same principles that have been "lost", if any, and given that we have supercomputers now, it's safe to say that there is nothing in mathematics they knew and we don't.
      In fact, we've solved problems Euler and other geniuses couldn't, because of technical limitations. We've advanced fields of theories, like knot theory, that would have been impossible to progress without computers.
      So please, spare us from your profound sanctimonies.

    • @duckyoutube6318
      @duckyoutube6318 2 дня назад

      @apokalypthoapokalypsys9573
      Im sorry but i dont care what nasty things you have to say. So go be miserable alone. There is nothing to gain from talking with you.

    • @duckyoutube6318
      @duckyoutube6318 2 дня назад +1

      @apokalypthoapokalypsys9573 Just curious.
      Why do you gotta bring me down like that? Im just trying to be positive. Why be so mean? Sorry i have nothing interesting to say. Im sorry for being me. If i could change i would.
      You people make me feel like complete trash. And all i do is try to be positive. I dont understand.
      Im sorry for speaking. Im sorry for expressing anything. You guys win. I give up. I thought we were lucky to be here together. But now i know nobody feels that way about me. Im just annoying and useless.
      Im sorry. And it wont happen again. You win.

  • @skeptica
    @skeptica 3 дня назад

    what is the cross product?

    • @carultch
      @carultch 2 дня назад +1

      The cross product is a product of two vectors, that returns a third vector that is mutually perpendicular to both of the vectors. The magnitude of the cross product vector, tells you the product of magnitudes of the two given vectors as well as another factor that measures how "crossed" (i.e. perpendicular) the two source vectors are. That factor, is the sine of the angle between them. The cross product is not commutative like normal multiplication, and produces the direction of its output according to the right hand rule.
      An application of the cross product is torque. The radius vector from the pivot point, crossed with the force, tells you the torque that the force applies; i.e. the rotational equivalent concept to a force. By convention, we assign torque in the same direction as a standard right-handed bolt would move parallel to its axis, if you spin it in the direction you apply the torque.

    • @skeptica
      @skeptica 2 дня назад

      @@carultch Thanks!

  • @OrdinarySonicfanMmKay
    @OrdinarySonicfanMmKay 3 дня назад

    Hello there

  • @abacaabaca8131
    @abacaabaca8131 2 дня назад

    When you do matrix multiplication, you need to also "add" another term so that to assemble the real equations.
    Matrix in math is just a system to solve a simultaneous equations.
    In other words matrix is just an isolated system made from a bunch of simultaneous equations.
    Consider the circle equation.
    y(t)=r * sin (t)
    x(t)=r* cos (t)
    But, this is only true for the first quadrant i.e when x and y is always positive.
    Later they find out the equation is
    x(t)= x * cos(t) + y * sin(t)
    y(t)= x * -sin(t) + y * cos(t)
    This is the formula for a clockwise rotation in which the rotation is in the form of a circle.
    From here you can isolate the equations in a matrix form.
    [ cos(t) sin(t) ] [ x ]
    [ -sin(t) cos(t) ] [ y ]
    So, if you try to assemble the original equation from a matrix form, you must do "addition" or you won't get the original equations.

  • @user-zg8ny5tp4g
    @user-zg8ny5tp4g 2 дня назад

    Integral: tan^2x ÷ (1+sec^4x ) dx ، how can you solve or just give me a hint

    • @zero-sl3bn
      @zero-sl3bn День назад +1

      you might've made some typo or there is something wrong in question if you are trying to find real solution but if you want complex solution just change above tan to sec and add and subtract sec^4 above and separate -1 and then in denominator just separate like a^2 + b^2 in complex numbers then it's just simple process ✌

    • @user-zg8ny5tp4g
      @user-zg8ny5tp4g День назад

      @@zero-sl3bn denominator would be (a^2 - b^2i^2)(a^2+b^2i^2)??? Did you mean this expression??

    • @user-zg8ny5tp4g
      @user-zg8ny5tp4g День назад

      @@zero-sl3bn then try with partial fraction??

    • @zero-sl3bn
      @zero-sl3bn День назад +1

      @@user-zg8ny5tp4g (sec^2 + i)(sec^2-i) and yup partial fraction by keeping sec^2 common in numerator

    • @user-zg8ny5tp4g
      @user-zg8ny5tp4g День назад

      @zero-sl3bn but how you can apply partial fraction to secx function, because we sec^2x in the denominator..so it would be (AX+C)÷ (sec^2x+i) + (BX+D)÷ (sec^2x -i)... but don't get it how to apply on secx function.

  • @henrygreen2096
    @henrygreen2096 2 дня назад

    If I saw this video in undergrad I would have said “man everyone knows this”
    But now as a professor we needed AS MANY PEOPLE pointing this out possible. I could make a video EVERYDAY for the rest of my life on how to properly multiply matriciels and I will still have students multiply across on the final… you read that correctly… THE FINAL. As in after months of explaining, office hours, homework, quizzes, and tests… they still mess it up. There’s always one or two. 😢. Makes me want to quit, man.

  • @macarioinmenzo3365
    @macarioinmenzo3365 3 дня назад +3

    wow im early

  • @geekonomist
    @geekonomist 2 дня назад +2

    Why do you call it a matrix “multiplication” when in fact it is an arbitrary rigmarole? Why don’t you just arbitrarily divide all the numbers while you are at it?
    2x3=6 is a multiplication.
    What you are doing with those two matrices is not at all a “multiplication”.

    • @benkelly2024
      @benkelly2024 2 дня назад +3

      It's not arbitrary at all. When you understand what's going on, it's very obviously the most natural way for matrix multiplication to work.

    • @geekonomist
      @geekonomist 2 дня назад

      @@benkelly2024 ​​⁠your comment is arbitrary because, since it has no explanation, is neither true nor false. Why is it called a multiplication when in fact there are steps other than a multiplication involved? Why is the rigmarole needed? What facts of reality make all this necessary? If there are indeed reasons why this is necessary, why is calling this a multiplication not arbitrary, when it is quite clear that 2x3 is?

    • @carultch
      @carultch 2 дня назад +3

      Because it has a lot of properties in common with multiplication. Consider how you'd use matrices to solve the following system of equations:
      3*x + 2*y = 14
      4*x + 5*y = 28
      You'll construct a square matrix of the coefficients, which we call A. You'll construct a column matrix of x & y, which we'll call matrix X. You'll then construct a column matrix of the right hand side constants, which we'll call B. This produces the following matrix equation:
      A*X = B
      You can see that each entry of matrix A, is multiplied by one of the entries of matrix X, somewhere within this process. And just as you'd solve 3*x = 9 by multiplying by the reciprocal of 3, there's a similar method of solving this matrix equation by multiplying by the "reciprocal" matrix of A.
      A*X = B
      A^(-1) * A * X = A^(-1) * B
      A^(-1) * A = the identity matrix I, by definition. This is analogous to the idea of 1, where it is something you can multiply by anything, and return that same anything.
      I * X = A^(-1)*B
      An identity matrix multiplied by a column matrix, returns that column matrix. Thus:
      X = A^(-1) * B
      The hard part is finding the matrix A^(-1). For the 2x2 case where A = [a, b][c, d], the general solution is:
      [d, -b]
      [-c, a], all divided by (a*d - b*c)
      So this example:
      A^(-1) =
      [5/7, -2/7]
      [-4/7, 3/7]
      Multiply by the column matrix of [14][35] and get:
      X = [2][4]
      Which implies x=2 and y=4.

    • @benkelly2024
      @benkelly2024 2 дня назад

      @geekonomist I have pointed out that your confusion is simply the result of ignorance, but I have no interest in educating you. If, now that you are aware of it, you wish to remedy your ignorance, that is up to you. The subject you need to study is called Linear Algebra, and it is usually one of the first subjects taught in a mathematics degree.

    • @geekonomist
      @geekonomist 2 дня назад

      @@benkelly2024 I asked ChatGPT. I gave it (along with you) shit for three rounds because it kept things absolutely ridiculously abstract (ie : Matrix A represents a Rotation (!?!) and Matrix B a Scaling (!?!). Then after repeated badgering, it finally yielded a real world example, called sales volume of apples and oranges at different prices in different stores. Funny how just the title alone answers all questions I have, and how NOBODY thinks in terms of apples and oranges when teaching and pontificating in comments. And no, it is not a "multiplication" when you combine the values of a spreadsheet of your prices and volumes of apples and oranges. "Multiplication" is an arbitrarily misnamed - rigmarole.

  • @styleisaweapon
    @styleisaweapon День назад

    It most definitely is how we multiply matrices. Its called the Hadamard product and its a universal basis for how modern computer architectures compute all the other matrix products hyper-efficiently. Very disingenuous video.

  • @ClementinesmWTF
    @ClementinesmWTF 2 дня назад

    This wasn’t even the way I thought they multiplied them wrongly. I thought they had transposed the multiplication and it does indeed work that way as well. I have a feeling (but not a proof) that any 2x2 matrix multiplication that abides by your proof will also have this quality of multiplying the same way in all three ways

  • @m3morizes
    @m3morizes 2 дня назад +1

    Let X=[(a b), (c d)] & Y=[(e f), (g h)]. Then XY=[(ae bf), (cg dh)] if any of the following cases hold:
    Case 1: X=0
    Case 2: Y=0
    Case 3: a=b=c=0 ∧ g=0
    Case 4: b=c=d=0 ∧ f=0
    Case 5: b=0 ∧ e=f=g=0
    Case 6: c=0 ∧ f=g=h=0
    Case 7: X∈Diag_2(R) ∧ Y∈Diag_2(R)
    Case 8: X,Y∈LT_2(R) ∧ cg=ce+dg
    Case 9: X,Y∈UT_2(R) ∧ bf=af+bh
    Cases 1 & 2 are obvious. Case 7 reflects the fact that multiplying diagonal matrices is easy, that it's componentwise for the diagonal entries. Cases 3, 4, 5, & 6 are not as obvious, but straightforward to verify. Cases 8 & 9 are interesting for only requiring two entries to be 0, such that both X & Y are upper triangular (or lower triangular) matrices, along with requiring the componentwise multiplication to hold for the entry diagonally opposite the 0 entry.

  • @MoharDutta
    @MoharDutta 2 дня назад

    Just a property of triangle matrics whose application is here just