Thanks for the nice comments! It's been great as well getting out and meeting a few of you as I travel. If you do see me at a festival please do come over and say hello!
Hi jon, started watching a couple of your talks over the weekend. Thanks for being so generous with your knowledge and experience. love your approach to sound and working with bands...
Hi... Jon Burton I'm new Comer in Canada just couple months ago and finding a PA system company yet I didn't find anything work for me please try to make connection with me here is my email. djdawn90@gmail.com that would be great help for me thanks...
hi Jon i have watched your talk this year as i have started learning sound engineering this month and you have really opened my mind thank you hope in the near future i will come to meet you and am from Kenya
As a recently retired touring sound engineer for well over 40 years Jon does a really good job here on how to become a good engineer. As Jon says, learn something new every day of your life and never settle for own performance. I always regarded myself as the extra member of the band I was working for. The band will want to get to know you if you're upfront with them from day one. At 24 minutes he mentions my own personal bugbear with most sound engineers in that the backline is often too loud, especially bass. I worked a few years ago with Cleo Laine and went to her in the soundcheck and asked her to sing at me directly without a microphone and P.A. to hear what her voice really sounded like. I couldn't believe that after 60 years on stage that I was the first sound engineer ever to have asked her to do that on a live concert. The main problem is the increase in the stage sound once the gig has started. I worked with a band where, especially in small theatres, the bass player would constantly increase his amp onstage volume which I often couldn't mix everything else up to get to his level. To help this I used to switch my desk mic on and tut down the drummers monitor speaker which was a pre arranged signal to get him to tell the bass player to turn down. .... So be confident of your own ability and make sure that the band realise that you're with them and not against them and listen.. As Jon says, do a good job and write the band members names down so when you're on the desk you can call them by name when you want them to do something and they will appreciate it that you've made a point of remembering it. Also get cards printed and hand them out at gigs to management for future engagements..
Hi Darryn, the great thing about being an experienced sound man is that pro bands know that the soundman can make, or break, a band quite easily on a live gig. If the soundman thinks the band need explaining why he wants the band to do X Y or Z and makes his point in a confident way they will normally listen and do what he requests... thanks for your feedback..
Indeed. And an experienced band will also know to listen to what the sound *person* (lol, sound ladies exist you know!) says. When one or the other has less experience then things go wrong...
You're quite right Darryn, lady sound persons are out there although most of them are in-house rather than touring. One exception is the Soundgirl with the Chris Barber Band, her name is Becky and she is Albert Lee's daughter.. She's been with Chris for at least 10 years and drives and humps her P.A. in, with the help of a couple of the band guys.
Actually I think you'll find that there are quite a few women touring these days. Still not as many as men, of course, but the number is growing all the time :)
Thank You Jon Burton for another heads up!I've been watching almost all your video and I found them very interesting and full of passion. Thank You for sharing this Video!I hope one day we can meet for a cup of tea!
Short sleeves! Gosh yes! Bad experience back in the day using a Yamaha PM-1000. Those faders were high up; caught by my cuff and dragged all the way open! Sheeeet!
I can't believe no one is standing up to pass you some water.. 40min in .. if the organisers can't pick up on it, how many people in the audience...? It's painful to see that noone makes a move... and its the topic you are trying to cover...to be helpful... What a legend you are John and your talk is amazingly well structured. Thank you.
Hey John, great vid. I'm a yank engineer, and although I don't have any Euro experience, I can absolutely attest to your claim of the poorly installed systems over here. The first thing I'll ask the house bloke is, "where is your crossover point?" The answer they give lets me know where the work starts. As I've started to get gigs where I'm assigned an apprentice or assistant, ideas like the ones in your video help me articulate to those who are learning how to have some success in this awesome field of work. All the best.
Great video, Jon. Very confirming in much of what I've been doing and new ideas. At about 38 minutes you mention "cv". I'm not familiar with that term. What does it stand for?
a lot of feedback in the mic but other than that great video next time ring out the mic before giving advice be your own sound engineer thanks for the video tho
lol! Unfortunately, in these events you turn up, wait for the speaker before you to finish and then start your talk! My main concern was not forgetting my topic and remembering to put my watch somewhere I could see it!
Thanks for the nice comments! It's been great as well getting out and meeting a few of you as I travel. If you do see me at a festival please do come over and say hello!
I will!!!
Hi jon, started watching a couple of your talks over the weekend. Thanks for being so generous with your knowledge and experience. love your approach to sound and working with bands...
Hi... Jon Burton I'm new Comer in Canada just couple months ago and finding a PA system company yet I didn't find anything work for me please try to make connection with me here is my email. djdawn90@gmail.com that would be great help for me thanks...
hi Jon i have watched your talk this year as i have started learning sound engineering this month and you have really opened my mind thank you hope in the near future i will come to meet you and am from Kenya
As a recently retired touring sound engineer for well over 40 years Jon does a really good job here on how to become a good engineer. As Jon says, learn something new every day of your life and never settle for own performance. I always regarded myself as the extra member of the band I was working for. The band will want to get to know you if you're upfront with them from day one. At 24 minutes he mentions my own personal bugbear with most sound engineers in that the backline is often too loud, especially bass. I worked a few years ago with Cleo Laine and went to her in the soundcheck and asked her to sing at me directly without a microphone and P.A. to hear what her voice really sounded like. I couldn't believe that after 60 years on stage that I was the first sound engineer ever to have asked her to do that on a live concert. The main problem is the increase in the stage sound once the gig has started. I worked with a band where, especially in small theatres, the bass player would constantly increase his amp onstage volume which I often couldn't mix everything else up to get to his level. To help this I used to switch my desk mic on and tut down the drummers monitor speaker which was a pre arranged signal to get him to tell the bass player to turn down. .... So be confident of your own ability and make sure that the band realise that you're with them and not against them and listen.. As Jon says, do a good job and write the band members names down so when you're on the desk you can call them by name when you want them to do something and they will appreciate it that you've made a point of remembering it. Also get cards printed and hand them out at gigs to management for future engagements..
Thanks for the great comment. Yes, getting anyone ti turn down on stage is always an entire art all of it's own!
Hi Darryn, the great thing about being an experienced sound man is that pro bands know that the soundman can make, or break, a band quite easily on a live gig. If the soundman thinks the band need explaining why he wants the band to do X Y or Z and makes his point in a confident way they will normally listen and do what he requests... thanks for your feedback..
Indeed. And an experienced band will also know to listen to what the sound *person* (lol, sound ladies exist you know!) says. When one or the other has less experience then things go wrong...
You're quite right Darryn, lady sound persons are out there although most of them are in-house rather than touring. One exception is the Soundgirl with the Chris Barber Band, her name is Becky and she is Albert Lee's daughter.. She's been with Chris for at least 10 years and drives and humps her P.A. in, with the help of a couple of the band guys.
Actually I think you'll find that there are quite a few women touring these days. Still not as many as men, of course, but the number is growing all the time :)
This is a good honest appraisal of what is involved in being a sound engineer.Worth watching!
would be quite intimidating to be the engineer for this mans talk... great advice thanks jon!
yep and the one who did it should be ashamed
@@greesy5644 glad to see I'm not the only one with this opinion
Great video, Jon!! Thank you for posting and for all the great advice.
Thank You Jon Burton for another heads up!I've been watching almost all your video and I found them very interesting and full of passion. Thank You for sharing this Video!I hope one day we can meet for a cup of tea!
Short sleeves! Gosh yes! Bad experience back in the day using a Yamaha PM-1000. Those faders were high up; caught by my cuff and dragged all the way open! Sheeeet!
I can't believe no one is standing up to pass you some water.. 40min in .. if the organisers can't pick up on it, how many people in the audience...? It's painful to see that noone makes a move... and its the topic you are trying to cover...to be helpful...
What a legend you are John and your talk is amazingly well structured. Thank you.
Great video!!
Hey John, great vid. I'm a yank engineer, and although I don't have any Euro experience, I can absolutely attest to your claim of the poorly installed systems over here. The first thing I'll ask the house bloke is, "where is your crossover point?" The answer they give lets me know where the work starts. As I've started to get gigs where I'm assigned an apprentice or assistant, ideas like the ones in your video help me articulate to those who are learning how to have some success in this awesome field of work. All the best.
Great as always, Jon!
So much great info in here. This cat is so right.
Big up Jon, love your videos. One of these I'll get to have a nice cuppa with you at a gig
To send a signal either to the left or right speakers, the
engineer uses which control?
A. Gain control. B. Solo switch. C. Panpot. D. Channel fader
Are you taking a test? This is like, the worst use for RUclips comments.
In which frequency area is the human ear is more sensitive?
A. 40 Hz. B. 100 Hz
C. 5 kHz D. 3.5kHz
3,5khz or 5khz idk gotta call my mom!
Great video! really helpful tips!
Glad you enjoyed! Try this one too ruclips.net/video/LUjYPyOtFaY/видео.html
Fantastic talk, really provided me with some much-needed inspiration. Thanks Jon!
so good nice
Great video, Jon. Very confirming in much of what I've been doing and new ideas. At about 38 minutes you mention "cv". I'm not familiar with that term. What does it stand for?
Joel Glaser CV = Curriculum Vitae. You might know it as 'resume'?
Thank you!
Overly loud guitarists. Is it possible to invert the foh guitar signal to reduce perceived volume? I'm just guessing.
Nice
a lot of feedback in the mic but other than that great video
next time
ring out the mic before giving advice
be your own sound engineer
thanks for the video tho
i always find it amusing / peculiar when there are problems like this in audio tip videos --- that being said --- this video is great
lol! Unfortunately, in these events you turn up, wait for the speaker before you to finish and then start your talk! My main concern was not forgetting my topic and remembering to put my watch somewhere I could see it!
Can someone help me get in touch with Mr Jon Burton pls!
Hi Levi - get in touch with Jon on LinkedIn.
Soulsound cheers
Imagine clubs being open. What an old priviledge
would be great to see and hear some women up on such pedestals ... this is rather boring.
Can I point you in this direction? ruclips.net/video/LUjYPyOtFaY/видео.html
thank you!
vocals, snare, kick.
in that order.