I wish that Seán and Ethan could stop giving themselves a hard time about feeling… well… _human._ I said _“could”_ instead of _“would,”_ because I don’t believe Seán or Ethan is fully capable of cutting themselves some slack in this instance. I’m very glad their discussion was comforting to you, as well as countless others. But just because they’re both successful doesn’t mean they’re not susceptible to the same (or similar) mental and physical afflictions as the rest of us. It kinda broke my heart seeing the both of them lambasting themselves that way. 💚🥹🥹💚
@@Lesley_RedRhodythat's what I was thinking when they talked about Tom Holland. Yeah, he's successful, and privileged in the sense that he *can* take that time off. But he is human. His bank balance doesn't diminish his feelings, and how burned out he is. Rather than laying into him, we should lay into the people who are making it so that the common folk can't take time off when we need to without worrying whether we'll be homeless because of it.
@anironsidh given his struggles with his own gut issues, odds are he's already had one. Also, it's strange you mention Mark and masochism in the same sentence. He is by far the least masochistic person on the planet. 😂
My favourite part of watching Spiderverse in theatres was at the end when my stepdad shouted “NO”, a stranger in front of me said “you can’t blue ball a movie” and when I turned to my mother fearfully and said “I forgot to tell you it’s part one”
Hearing Ethan and Sean talking about not feeling allowed to feel sad or burn out because they think they are privileged with what they do made me think that it's all the same for all kinds of jobs in some ways...as I see it I could never put myself out there in front of the whole internet every other day recording myself, trying to entertain people or speak about what I think...I get that this is time consuming and stressful many times. The same as any other job takes responsibility and you need to be creative, funny or focused and precise. Everyone can have a hard time with their job because it's a part of your life..and life it's not always easy.
I'm on a patreon for another RUclipsr. Yesterday they made a post and somebody said something rude and the creator politely ask them to not be so negative next time. And the person proceeded to go on a tirade with like 40 messages making themselves the victim and calling the creator all kinds of things. When other patreons were trying to get the person to calm down they started attacking us. I could never deal with the stuff that these guys have to deal with
I feel so bad for Sean about him dealing with all of this. He has talked about so many things that I can relate to. I have generalized anxiety, health anxiety, and clinical depression. And I would compare myself to others as well, and be really hard on myself. It’s heartbreaking to hear him talk about this, but I appreciate him being open about it. I wish him the best and I hope he finds more things to do outside of the internet. He has been a great ally to me helping me through my day to day life, his energy, teaching moments, and closure is contagious! On the funny side, the water up the ass, never want to experience that again! XD
It's so nice hearing them talk seriously about the hard stuff they've been going through. Its very reassuring to know that yes they are human too, and feel the same shit we do.
As someone with Major Depressive Disorder, (yes, diagnosed), I felt so seen when the boys talked about their depression and talked about their spirals. I have daily spirals and very frequent episodes, and I’m happy that they were so open with their mental illness
As difficult as it must be for them to talk about depression, spiraling, etc... it's *so* healing to hear about Ethan and Sean's experiences. It makes me feel much less alone in my day to day struggles.
im 24 and a trans man, had to have a colonoscopy at 23, and ended up having a precancerous polyp. one not usually found in afab people, let alone people under 40. gender affirming but scary. they put me on fentanyl and said i wouldnt remember it (i remember all of it)
@@pennyaldente There are an estimated 10 million people in the world living with IBD (Crohn's and Ulcerative Colitis), I'm afraid Colonoscopy's in the young is far more common than you may think. I'm 33, and since I was diagnosed at 22 I've had 4 colonoscopy's and a hand full of sigmoidoscopy's. Also had multiple polyps removed, they're fairly standard with certain conditions. I'm in no way trying to undermine anyones experience and it's not a pleasant procedure I know. Just more common than most people think.
Every job comes with positives and negatives. Being a RUclipsr is no different. And I personally feel like it’s important to acknowledge the negatives, so people aren’t disillusioned into thinking it’s a perfect career and perfect life, because it’s NOT. These boys have their mental, emotional, and physical struggles, just like the rest of us, and I’m glad they’re willing to discuss their mental health issues with the audience.
To hear people being so open about mental health struggles makes me feel so good inside. I have been struggling with my mental health since 5th grade, and I always felt so alone and like I was completely different from everyone else. Now every time people are open about their struggles I feel less alone. I also am struggling with depression right now, and to hear others are also struggling gives me a feeling of comfort, like if they can do it so can I.
As someone who literally has the follow up appointment for my colonoscopy/endoscopy today, the timing is insane. Glad everything went okay on Sean's end. Or perhaps in it-
Dear Seán & Ethan, I REALLY hope you both see this. *TAKES A DEEP BREATH* Your Fanbase is NOT Worth "YOUR LIVES!!!" I understand that given your Jobs as RUclipsrs you feel you owe us and to SOME degree You should definitely appreciate everyone/thing that got yall to where you are BUT IT STOPS THERE. YOU ARE ALLOWED TO NOT BE HAPPY WITH SITUATIONS IN YOUR LIFE THAT ARENT GOING WELL & UPSET YOU. Yes You're Speaking from Places of Privilege BUT YOU'RE STILL HUMAN BEINGS!! YOUR FEELINGS ARE F*CKING VALID!!! The Fans & People in general who Genuinely care about you would LITERALLY rather you guys take YEARS away from RUclips OR Quit Altogether to Find Happiness/Peace & Live Your Lives in whatever Capacity that means for you two individually RATHER THAN Continue to burn yourselves out & grow more Miserable for Your Channels. PLEASE. GO. LIVE. Even if living for a while means doing F*ck All! The important thing is its YOUR time to do what yoi want with it. People will ALWAYS Complain. People will ALWAYS Judge. & People will ALWAYS Misunderstand Looking from the Outside In. NO MATTER HOW CONSIDERATE & SELF SACRiFICING YOU ARE!! So F*CK IT. You Both have done MORE THAN ENOUGH to solidify where Your Moral Standings are with all things & If people STILL dont get it? Dude they can honestly Go F*ck Themselves. ALSO DESPITE YOUR BRAINS TRICKING YOU, YOU BOTH ARE DOING SO MUCH BETTER THAN YOU GIVE YOURSELVES CREDIT FOR. I AM PROUD OF YOU & YOU SHOULD BE PROUD OF YOURSELVES!! 🙌💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯 (^w^)❤🧡💛💚💙💜💖
Listening to them talk about their mental health is honestly so inspiring and reassuring. I relate to it so much. and SAME, I just want to have hobbys that aren't on the screen or sitting at my desk. it's so calming and somehow validating that even they have these same problems. I love you guys
I just have to say the boys looked nice in this episode, Seán's hair is magnificent and Ethan looks very good in his lil Steve Jobs fit lol. Excited for the in person episode(s)! Glad to hear both of you are trying to take care of yourselves and that therapy seems to be helping you work through those feelings. 💜
sounds like when my bf was on ''auto pilot'' when he was younger. for context, he had un- diagnosed autism, and throughout his school years he learned certain behaviors he would repeat everyday to just be ''normal'' or to just get through the day, he would describe to me that, it felt almost out of body, because he couldn't express what he really felt or thought, but was aware of what he wanted to feel and do, but just couldn't get passed what his brain basically learned to do automatically. he says he felt like he was watching a machine work without actually having the control of it. its kinda like dissociation, but you're aware the whole time. now, i'm not saying y'all have autism lol, i just wanted to share a similar experience that maybe helps explain what to call that lol.
I heard some advice and I think it really applies well here. "Do not compare yourself to anyone else. If you must, then compare to your past self and reflect on how far you've come, how much you've grown. To compare yourself to any other person doesn't make sense, because you can never BE that other person. It's unfair to compare pain or suffering that you've gone through with someone else, because each person experiences pain differently. We've all gone through different things in our lives, each moment leading up to the next. How can we possibly compare to anyone but ourselves?" It's not that we shouldn't empathize with others, but comparing pain or saying that our suffering matters less than because there are others who have gone through something worse is foolish. That doesn't mean we should focus on it. Rather, we should feel it, truly feel it, and then let it go. It's not an easy thing to do, but it does help. I struggle with anxiety and depression, it's been at least twenty years. There are days where I don't even know if I can leave my bed, let alone the house. I'm literally the worst enemy for myself. No one else can defeat that monster that stands in my way. Only I can do it. That being said, it doesn't mean I have to walk alone. As a wise person once said, "Burdens are lighter when carried by two, or more." We can be there for each other, sometimes just having another person to listen can help. I hope whomever is reading this, I want you to know that you aren't alone. You are beautiful. You are so much stronger than you know. And most of all, you are loved. And this world really is a much better place with you in it.
When Sean mentioned sci fi tropes but we are not what we are suppose to be doing. This is so true for disabled people. It immediately reminded me of A woman had a chip implanted in her brain for her seizures and it worked wonders, it gave her her life back, but because the company went bankrupt she was forced to have the chip removed and had to go back to the debilitating state, which was extremely traumatic. Disabled people have to pay exorbitant prices for new medical technology that we need to live or pay for upgrades. Augmented humans already exist, people with basically computers in their bodies already exist, thus cyborgs exist.... its not fiction, problem is we need this shit to survive and we are at the mercy of for profit companies that could be greedy bastards or entirely flop and cease to exist. There is a whole branch of ethics still forming around the idea of giving people medical technology that becomes an integral part of them and then taking it away, but those ethical debates are so new their is no way they have any baring on current medical trials. Its one reason I never want any implanted technology even if it would be helpful I'll take the older treatments its just too scary. I know thats a little deep to come out of his comment but its so true
If you ever want a copy of the video of a surgery or medical procedure, you can always ask the place you're going to if they can do that for you. Just be sure to discuss it before hand because not all clinics have recording gear set up. I have a CD with a copy of my MRI records because I wanted to see my own brain and they were on board lol.
I wish i had something good to say. But i cant really think of anything. So ill just say: If anyone is going through a tough time, with depression, anxiety, stress, ED, whatever it may be, just know that you're not alone. Those who you hold close to you are proud of you. They love you. They miss you. They're happy to have you in their lives. And if all you did today was get out of bed and shower, youre doing great. If youve just eaten for the first time today, good job, youve got this. If you brushed your teeth the first time this week, youre doing great. I hope everyone has an amazing day. Even if that day is just laying in bed watching videos. Youre doing good. And youre trying. Thats all that matters
Just listening to Sean & Ethan talk about their experiences with handling mental health really does feel so reassuring for my journey with mental health. Knowing that someone else to this extent is feeling similar or dealing with the same battle of emotions is just so validating for me. I love that these two feel comfortable enough to open up about it because it really has helped me and I'm sure many others.
I love this podcast so much. I’ve been feeling really depressed lately without knowing whats wrong. I also notice my friends are all doing so much and its going so well for them and then i dont even feel like i’m living life. I dont hear anyone talk about having these struggles, so hearing you guys talk about exactly that makes me feel so validated and seen. Huge respect to these legends for being able to talk openly about this and help so many people
It’s crazy, the night Sean painted something was the night I actually painted something and it came out way better than I thought, it’s just awesome to try new things and explore, and what’s crazier is hearing them talk and finding out how just relatable their lives can be even though we live completely different lives
It’s so interesting and comforting to hear Ethan and Sean talk about how much they compare themselves to others, when I feel like they seem like the pinnacle of ‘success.’ I never would have thought that about them. I’m constantly comparing myself as an illustrator, designer, and creator. It’s like there’s just this long line of comparison happening amongst creatives all of the time.
There is always someone who has it worse, no matter what you’re going through. Somebody out there has it the worst out of any of us, and they are not the only person allowed to feel sad or anxious or stressed out. Depression doesn’t care who you are. It doesn’t care about your job, your financial situation, it’s just a thing that’s in your head and it makes you feel shit.
I feel like I needed to hear them talk about their feelings and privilage because i have been dealing with the same thing, i've been trying to make content for youtube but whenever I playback my videos it feels so terrible to see that it does not meet my expectations (if that makes sense).
Depression is the most cruel and confusing thing. I hope that when you wake up and it's not weighing you down, you have the best day ever because you deserve it. Not just our dear podcast hosts, but everyone who reads this. For days that it is on your back, sapping your energy and ability to enjoy things, just know that it's no one's fault, and that you will come out of it with the right support.
I rarely comment on RUclips, but I felt the need to on this video. Ethan, Seán, as someone who is neurodivergent and has been suffering from clinical depression for over 13 years, and as someone who your videos mean a lot to (Unus Annus was a daily source of indescribable inspiration, joy, and laughter throughout some of the hardest times of my life, and Jacksepticeye videos have kept me company through really bad depressive episodes for over 10 years)... I really want both of you to realize how meaningful it is to hear you both open up and talk about your mental health problems/illnesses and emotional/creative burnout. I'm not exaggerating when I say that the "Let's Get Real" segment of this video is the kind of thing that saves lives. Talking about these difficult subjects makes other people feel less alone and less hopeless. I wish I could show this video to all the younger versions of myself who felt alone in the world, or felt like a freak, or felt like she didn't deserve to get help or talk to people about her problems, or shamed herself for feeling so depressed/burnt out, or spent hours mentally abusing herself because she just couldn't find the motivation or energy to get things done, or believed it when people told her that her mental illness was actually just a lack of appreciation for all her privileges in life. I really can't even begin to put into words how much it means to hear you two talk openly about all these things that I've also in some way, shape, or form experienced with my own mental illnesses and mental health. Thank you so much. I really admire the both of you as content creators and as human beings, and as such I doubly admire you for talking about such deeply personal and painful subjects in this episode. And I want you both, and anyone else reading this, to know that any lucky and/or privileged positions you may have don't actually invalidate any of the negative feelings you may also be having, or your mental illnesses, or your depression. Nobody wins when we play games of the Suffering Olympics, least of all ourselves. Just because other people "have it so much harder" doesn't mean that you can't be having a hard time, too. If I break my toe, the knowledge that someone in the world has had their entire foot crushed doesn't actually make my wound heal any faster or hurt any less. Nobody deserves to have these feelings or mental illnesses, but everyone DOES deserve to be able to talk about it. Everyone is allowed to have problems. Everyone is allowed to talk about those problems. These are universal truths, and they don't change just because you're lucky or privileged or wealthy. Maybe none of that means that much, coming from a random Internet stranger who doesn't actually know either of you beyond what you share online. I'm sure you've heard it all before, and you don't need random Internet people therapizing at you. But your content has been there for me whenever I was at rock bottom for years now. I would even go so far as to say, in all seriousness, that your content has indirectly saved my life at several points. And I wanted to take the opportunity to thank you, and to try to offer some words of encouragement and support, and to tell you that your fans love your content BECAUSE you are human, not in spite of it. We don't expect you to be happy and perfect and powered solely by Triple-A batteries. Also, Ethan, your talking about alexithymia made me cry, because I never realized there was a word for it. My "no-no" words in therapy are "I don't know", because just like you, my therapist would ask me questions like, "How did that make you feel?" and I simply wouldn't be able to answer them any other way. It took me over two years of weekly therapy sessions to even just be able to say, "I felt bad today."
the mental health conversation was incredibly important and both of you are very valid in how you're expressing your emotions. This assumption that privileged people aren't allowed to complain stems from our belief that once we reach a certain amount of success, sadness and depression won't affect us anymore. Culture sells us this idea to keep us hustling and grinding because we believe that if we invest enough, we eventually reach this point of ''stuff is just good now'' but thats not how mental health works. no matter where you're at in life, your pain is valid. and if someone is fortunate enough to be able to take the necessary breaks to take care of what really matters: their own health! we shouldn't be bitter. its not their fault that the system doesn't offer this for everyone. stress and depression cant be measured by life goals or achievements. do whats good for you. take care of yourself as best as you can and seek out support. express how you're feeling. its all valid.
I truly believe that guys also have their time of the month. Where you just feel like crap and depression sets in. And after a couple weeks you feel so much better.
"Comparison is the thief of joy", a phrase ive held close for a long time since recognizing my own depressive issues. Also, I for one welcome our new A.I. overlords lol.
It’s kind of comforting knowing that even people who have achieved financial/social success feel the same bummer feelings as me and others who have no idea what they even want to do with their lives. It’s also nice to hear about Cory taking breaks to take care of himself, as much as it’s a funny meme to joke about how long he is gone it seems like he has a really healthy relationship with his work and I strive to be like that with my dream job/hobby some day
I can relate with Seán I’ve had asthma since I was 3 and I was in the icu a lot and I had to see allergists and other doctors to have check ups. I’m glad I haven’t had a flare up for some time, during the pandemic it was really scary because I’m compromised. I’m so grateful to have people that I look up to be able to have a healthy and open conversation about physical health and mental health.
to donate your body to science you have to be registered as a donor which you typically are asked when you get a drivers license which will leave a little symbol on your license for medical purposes.
I have chronic pain, PCOS, suicidal/ self destructive/ harmful thoughts, severe depression and anxiety (Both social and personalised), I'm in the process of getting assessed for ADHD and autism (being a woman in her mid 20s it's harder to get assessed or diagnosed), I have early-onset osteoarthritis in both knees and most likely other joints as well, and because of all my other health issues my depression and personalised anxiety disorders are exasperated to their extreme despite any help from my fiancé or family. I don't want to be a burden on my loved ones but I know that if I keep all my feelings bottled up I'll get to the dark point of my thoughts taking over me again and I definitely don't want that to happen. I need to go to a phycologist for the assessments but I also need to see someone just for my everyday mental health issues because despite moving away from my toxic father my mental health is still dark. I have hobbies, I enjoy crafting but when something goes wrong I get overly discouraged and have a breakdown over seemingly small things because of the pent up stuff in my head.
It’s funny that Ethan says he feels like he can’t complain, when just a minutes ago they made fun of people who say they have a harsher weather than them. Just like hot weather, your problems are relative, Ethan. Just yesterday I was feeling bad so I googled if anybody felt the same in my particular situation. Turns out there were people out there that had a better reason than I did for feeling that way. But that doesn’t invalidate my feelings. So it’s ok, Ethan. Your problems, even when you’re a privileged person, are yours and no one else has them. You can feel bad about it, and that’s fine.
The most important thing to realize is no matter who you are, what job you have, or how much money you have. Your problems are still problems, even if someone has it “worse” in your eyes. Your problems are still worth talking about and feeling. Youre feeling are valid Yall! We love you so much ❤️
the amount of joy this podcast brings me is unreal. i love listening to it on long car rides and also just sitting down and watching the entire yt video ❤
Please consider DBT as an option for therapy, Ethan! When I was diagnosed with ADHD at 22yrs old, I genuinely didn’t realize how bad I was at identifying emotions and categorizing them into anything other than ‘upset’. Dialectical Behaviour Therapy taught me a lot about reading/labelling those emotions and what they’re telling you, so you can choose how to respond and serve yourself better.
1:01:00 i was introduced to the emotion wheel during therapy some years ago and its helped me quite a bit because i used to just say i was feeling sad or like the most basic feelings or just saying "i don't know". In fact, my no-no phrase in therapy was "i don't know" lol
I never thought I'd ever get into painting miniatures, but once I got some D&D figures and gave it a try, I felt so fulfilled by the activity. People really should try out different hobbies if they don't have any of their own, there's so much to explore and learn about. :3
I'm so grateful to hear the guys talk about their own struggles with mental health because I think it's important to destigmatise it, especially in men but also especially in people who put so much of themselves out in the public like content creators, actors, musicians, etc. because sure... some of the issues they face with their jobs aren't the same as folks like me and many others who have to do that grind, but that doesn't LESSEN the problems. everyone's problems are relative only to themselves. and I do hope that they both have the help they need with their therapy (again, super thrilled to hear them promote going to therapy!) to ease back out of these spirals.
Regrading that deep personal emotion bit I actively watch jack and game grumps, roughly became a fan roundabout the same time (2017 ish) and I’ve been going back to watch the much more earlier stuff. I’m not sure if it’s cause I’m a little older and didn’t grow up with the older videos but I prefer jacks and the grumps vibes now. The high energy can be nice sometimes but I honestly love the low energy in their videos now. It feels like you’re just hanging out with friends rather than when jack said it feels more like a performance. I also watched unus annus and occasionally Ethan’s personal channel. But honestly love this side of him more. Overall I find this a really enjoyable, chill friend group podcast. It’s so nice and comforting and especially since I haven’t had any friends for many many years now, so thank you Ethan and Seán 🖤
this year i’ve been particularly enjoying keeping up tot date watching all of sean’s videos as they come out and even made a playlist of horror games hes played that actually help me relax and sleep. but since it’s been a while without videos i’ve really craved new content like the horror games again but at the same time i could see he was starting to have not as much fun with videos. absolutely seemed burnt out. just want my favourite online creator to relax and figure out what is best. but it’s difficult, having become so used to the spiking dopamine fixes and constant rewarding nature of the internet, to be conscious of the fact these things come from really people.
Sean, if you do want AC downstairs you could get a "Ductless Mini-Split" system. It goes on your wall and they would need cut a hole in the wall for it. People in the US often install these in places not designed to accommodate air conditioning like work sheds and garages. My father is in the process of replacing his old ducted central air system in his home with a Ductless Mini-Split system as it is much less expensive and he can do the installation himself.
Absolutely adore this episode. It's so real and I feel like us as fans and spectators develop a new appreciation for you guys because of it. Even if we have already been fans for years. Thank you guys!
I find myself comparing my ability to do things to everyone as well. I am SO anxious and have panic attacks, and I hate myself for being unable to like think normally or be normal. I feel so seen in this episode
Alexithymia gang! It's not only having a hard time describing your emotions, though, it's having a hard time figuring out how you feel in the first place. I'm AuDHD and having a word for it was truly a game changer, because now when I feel indescribably shitty or just ~weird~ I know I might just need to go through a list of things, everything from "have I remembered to eat or drink in hours" and "does my body hurt somewhere" to "am I feeling nervous about the appointment tomorrow" or "am I just actually very excited". Before my diagnosis and learning about alexithymia, I would just ruminate and spiral wondering wtf is wrong with me because I feel *something* that makes my body react in *some weird way* but I have no idea what it is, so I'd just falsely file every possible emotion under "anxiety" and have no idea what to do to untangle it.
I love that you two are so serious and so silly about it.... it honestly does bring me some comfort. Both of you have honestly brought a lot of joy to me. - And all of these topics should never be stigmatized.
As a nurse, I'm gonna guess that they absolutely would NOT let you film E's colonoscopy. US docs would be way too concerned about the risk for lawsuits in case there was a complication during procedure. You might be able to get a copy of the actual bowel footage, just not a real-time filming of the procedure and process. Ethan, i think youre thinking of an incentive spirometer
I regularly have that issue, coming from a home where my family said they loved and their words an actions didn't match up, I'm only now table to fully sit down with myself and take time for myself without the fight or flight mode constantly turned on. I've spent most of my life convinced that I had it better than anyone in my family and I wasn't allowed to feel anything because of it, so when I acted out because of my disabilities combined with stress or everything just being so much, I was the bad guy because I felt those things. no matter if someone screamed at me an caused me to spiral, or if someone broke something I found comfort in on purpose or accident, even if I did something, I am always at fault. So even when it's actually my fault, I beat myself up ten times worse. The fun thing about therapy, is I can get better without being so in my own head.
Glad to know I'm not the only one who's been going through really bad depression lately. I had the same thing happen where a few weeks ago, I was feeling perfectly fine and then I just woke up one day feeling mentally awful and haven't felt better since. Still have no clue where it came from but hopefully it goes away soon because it's made it hard to even get out of bed some days. I already have generalized anxiety disorder so that on top of this has just been horrible
Actors get paid too much to “Act” they do nothing but lie to themselves and us by fulfilling a character that is not they’re own. All for money. All for drama. Sean and Ethan my friends, you fulfill yourselves by being grounded and opening yourselves up to who you really are. For your audience and to be true to you! You are the real entertainer! Your here for your audience and then some. Keep Leakin!!
I 100% feel where Sean is coming from during the Let's Get Real segment but from the place of someone who hasn't even become successful yet so on top of all the depression, lack of motivation and whatnot I also have to worry about money. For a long time I've waiting to even attempt to make content cause I've been saving for a decent computer that could handle making content rather then struggling to even run the game on this shitty laptop but something has always comes up to push me further from my goal, the most recent being my ex best friend stealing 3k from me. Tho I know this is mostly me justifying my procrastination. My laptop can't handle much but there are games I could record on it.
this is the podcast that never makes me anxious and makes me feel relaxed and laugh and the topics flow and change so well for me and you guys are doing a really good job
Oh my god, you guys. I have a shitty 9-5 with the joy decades of therapy and diagnosed borderline, anxiety and depression. I still think it would be a worse thing to be recognized plus having so many ppl/anybody have expectations of me of any kind. Do you want you want! Sean, if you left for 6 months, the fan base would just be so thrilled to see you again. You'll always have the fans, no matter how long you're not creating, you won't always have the money and energy to fulfill your dreams. Fucking get off your ass and do what makes you happy bro!
If you feel any emotion for any reason at any time it is valid purely because you feel it. No-one gets to say how you should or shouldn't feel and anyone who thinks someone in your position has nothing negative in their life is naïve. Everyone has struggles. As someone with several chronic illnesses, I often have people say "I know it's not as bad as you deal with but..." and every time I will say 'just because my situation is worse, doesn't mean that yours doesn't suck, your allowed to feel how you feel"
1:00:32 Yeah, alexithymia "is characterized by an impaired ability to be aware of, explicitly identify, and describe one's feelings". An emotion wheel can help with that, since it shows you different emotions and how they relate to each other.
I think it's still a problem for people to open up serious issues in general. There are those who get shut down, shamed for, or feel guilty for feeling negative and complaining about their lot in life. It doesn't help when people try to one-up you in suffering even when you understand your position being either higher or lower than others'. Even if there was some sort of objective way to measure misery, you still feel what you feel and you can't help that aside from having ways to cope with it. Not everyone's a good confidante, but letting it out to those you trust can help.
Listening to Ethan and Jack talk about how they don't really have hobbies and talking about their mental health and relating to them is nice but also sad because it sucks that any of us experience this at all. For Ethan, I really think he should get into creating art, and not for a video like he did for the Bob Ross or spray painting videos. If you don't want to spend a bunch of money just go to Walmart and buy some cheap craft paints, brush packs, and canvas packs and just go ham on the canvas. Intuitive painting is fun and therapeutic at the same time. Jack, I think you should continue with painting the figures, but maybe find some that you'd actually want to keep? I also have Clinical Depression, so I understand that keeping up with a hobby or interest is hard but you guys got this! Great episode guys❤
Hoping Sean sees this: They make breathing evercise devices that are designed to expand your lung capacity and strengthen.the muscles for breathing. They do this by letting air through on the exhale, but adding resistance to the inhale, so it sucks balls the first few times doing it. I got one when I got an asthma scare last year. I had the worst cold I've ever had (worse than the one time I got Covid), and I was lifting heavy things at work and had my first asthma attack in years.
Privileged people are people too, yall are normal folks just like everyone else and your problems aren't less valid to be upset about just bc others have it worse, there will always be someone out there who has it worse. I just think it's a good thing that yall don't use your privilege to be assholes, it doesn't have to be much deeper than that; be a good person to the best of your abilities, help fellow people to the best of your abilities, and when you're feeling shitty you deserve to receive the same kindness you've been spreading. That's the basics of it. If this sort of good behaviour was more systematic than it currently is, or at least not actively hindered because of the system, then the world would be a far better place. That's basically my life philosophy. I still struggle with very similar issues to yall but i just hope that when life feels awful i will make it through the day or week or month so i can remember what it feels like to feel good, to feel like a part of humanity's beating heart fighting to make the world better.
This is actually so cathartic for me I’m going through a lot and seeing you guys talk so openly about struggling is really encouraging Edit: and then there’s talking about nick cage being the joker…
boys i am very proud of both of you. you make me feel less alone in my struggles, and your humility and openness is so refreshing to see. came for the funny, stayed for the relatability. take care of yourselves! also eef your money tree looks very happy and that gives me serotonin
Fun fact: the AI theory sean said he'd been thinking about for a while actually originates from his subnautica below zero series when he is talking about Al-an, which is from 2021, so he really has been thinking about it for a while
hearing Sean and Ethan talk about how they’ve been dealing with depression and spiraling makes me feel less alone in my fight against those feelings
I wish that Seán and Ethan could stop giving themselves a hard time about feeling… well… _human._
I said _“could”_ instead of _“would,”_ because I don’t believe Seán or Ethan is fully capable of cutting themselves some slack in this instance.
I’m very glad their discussion was comforting to you, as well as countless others. But just because they’re both successful doesn’t mean they’re not susceptible to the same (or similar) mental and physical afflictions as the rest of us.
It kinda broke my heart seeing the both of them lambasting themselves that way.
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@@Lesley_RedRhodythat's what I was thinking when they talked about Tom Holland. Yeah, he's successful, and privileged in the sense that he *can* take that time off. But he is human. His bank balance doesn't diminish his feelings, and how burned out he is. Rather than laying into him, we should lay into the people who are making it so that the common folk can't take time off when we need to without worrying whether we'll be homeless because of it.
@@turtlesandwich77 It’s comforting to see solidarity in the comments. Makes my Little Babble Heart swell!
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I know right. I am going through the same thing right now.
I'm going through the same thing! I hope we all get better soon :)
In hindsight the podcast easily could have been named Ass Leak with the amount of stories so far
Was just thinking this 😂🤣
Bowel leak 😂
@@lyndiwilson2334 butt leak hahahaha
haha HIND-sight
@@Zelig_Shaine 🧍🏻♀️
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BRAIN LAND IS MY FAVORITE PODCAST I love Evan and Shane so much
This has no business being this funny pls
its ethen and sean
@@beckingston.it was a joke genius
@@beckingston.bro 😂
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For the colonoscopy video, they need to have Mark as a special guest commentating along with Séan
It'd be like a sequel to the Unus Annus wax video.
omfg, as hype as they were for his fight 💀
I bet he'd want to join too (to prove he has the guts to take it)
@@pedrostormragedefinitely not because he's a masochist or anything
@anironsidh given his struggles with his own gut issues, odds are he's already had one. Also, it's strange you mention Mark and masochism in the same sentence. He is by far the least masochistic person on the planet. 😂
@nataliegray8019 the masochist thing was a joke from unus annus
Seán just casually talking about the colonoscopy and info dumping, while Ethan is laughing at every single thing, amazing 😂😂
i was put under for my colonoscopy. right before i fell asleep i said “be gentle it’s my first time” and i heard the nurses chuckle as i faded out 🤣
Petition to have Sean temporarily change his channel name to JackSepticArse
My favourite part of watching Spiderverse in theatres was at the end when my stepdad shouted “NO”, a stranger in front of me said “you can’t blue ball a movie” and when I turned to my mother fearfully and said “I forgot to tell you it’s part one”
Seeing them talk about their lives seriously was so relaxing and calming IDK why?
It's calming to hear that struggles like these are normal and there's nothing wrong with feeling this way.
Dudes I’ve been mentally rolling on the floor for the day waiting for this episode, my patience’s been leaking out my boots.
Not your brain?
Patience is stored in the toes
Hearing Ethan and Sean talking about not feeling allowed to feel sad or burn out because they think they are privileged with what they do made me think that it's all the same for all kinds of jobs in some ways...as I see it I could never put myself out there in front of the whole internet every other day recording myself, trying to entertain people or speak about what I think...I get that this is time consuming and stressful many times. The same as any other job takes responsibility and you need to be creative, funny or focused and precise. Everyone can have a hard time with their job because it's a part of your life..and life it's not always easy.
I'm on a patreon for another RUclipsr. Yesterday they made a post and somebody said something rude and the creator politely ask them to not be so negative next time. And the person proceeded to go on a tirade with like 40 messages making themselves the victim and calling the creator all kinds of things. When other patreons were trying to get the person to calm down they started attacking us. I could never deal with the stuff that these guys have to deal with
I feel so bad for Sean about him dealing with all of this. He has talked about so many things that I can relate to. I have generalized anxiety, health anxiety, and clinical depression. And I would compare myself to others as well, and be really hard on myself. It’s heartbreaking to hear him talk about this, but I appreciate him being open about it. I wish him the best and I hope he finds more things to do outside of the internet. He has been a great ally to me helping me through my day to day life, his energy, teaching moments, and closure is contagious! On the funny side, the water up the ass, never want to experience that again! XD
Sean saying "I just want to see how much my body can take" killed me 😂 you guys are so hilarious I love you
Sean spent too much time with Markiplier 😂
I don't think I've watched this many episodes of any podcast before. But when it's Ethan and Seán, how could I not watch them
I never knew Sean had so many impressions nailed down. Every time he does one it's spot on.
It's so nice hearing them talk seriously about the hard stuff they've been going through. Its very reassuring to know that yes they are human too, and feel the same shit we do.
As someone with Major Depressive Disorder, (yes, diagnosed), I felt so seen when the boys talked about their depression and talked about their spirals. I have daily spirals and very frequent episodes, and I’m happy that they were so open with their mental illness
I was worried that my Bad Advice question wouldn’t be interesting enough…
Thank you, Seán and Ethan!!
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Oh it’s you!
@@WillBinge Hi!! 👋😁
As difficult as it must be for them to talk about depression, spiraling, etc... it's *so* healing to hear about Ethan and Sean's experiences. It makes me feel much less alone in my day to day struggles.
im 24 and a trans man, had to have a colonoscopy at 23, and ended up having a precancerous polyp. one not usually found in afab people, let alone people under 40. gender affirming but scary. they put me on fentanyl and said i wouldnt remember it (i remember all of it)
I'm 27 and had it last year, I'm nb and had nothing but the fact we had to have a colonoscopy at our age is just wild. I hope you're feeling better!
@@pennyaldente There are an estimated 10 million people in the world living with IBD (Crohn's and Ulcerative Colitis), I'm afraid Colonoscopy's in the young is far more common than you may think. I'm 33, and since I was diagnosed at 22 I've had 4 colonoscopy's and a hand full of sigmoidoscopy's. Also had multiple polyps removed, they're fairly standard with certain conditions.
I'm in no way trying to undermine anyones experience and it's not a pleasant procedure I know. Just more common than most people think.
Damn fentanyl???
it's been a while, but i hope you're doing well. 🌻 that must've been hard, so i am proud you were able to get medical help. you're very strong
Every job comes with positives and negatives. Being a RUclipsr is no different. And I personally feel like it’s important to acknowledge the negatives, so people aren’t disillusioned into thinking it’s a perfect career and perfect life, because it’s NOT. These boys have their mental, emotional, and physical struggles, just like the rest of us, and I’m glad they’re willing to discuss their mental health issues with the audience.
I won't self diagnose, but hearing Ethan say there is a term for not being able to express your feelings in words really hit something in me.
1:00:11 alexithymia yes, i have this!!!
I always get happy when they post this because all it is is just sean and ethan talking about random stuff and it is very entertaining lol
To hear people being so open about mental health struggles makes me feel so good inside. I have been struggling with my mental health since 5th grade, and I always felt so alone and like I was completely different from everyone else. Now every time people are open about their struggles I feel less alone. I also am struggling with depression right now, and to hear others are also struggling gives me a feeling of comfort, like if they can do it so can I.
As someone who literally has the follow up appointment for my colonoscopy/endoscopy today, the timing is insane. Glad everything went okay on Sean's end. Or perhaps in it-
I hope everything goes well for you!
Lol "Sean's end."
Dear Seán & Ethan,
I REALLY hope you both see this.
*TAKES A DEEP BREATH*
Your Fanbase is NOT Worth "YOUR LIVES!!!"
I understand that given your Jobs as RUclipsrs you feel you owe us and to SOME degree You should definitely appreciate everyone/thing that got yall to where you are BUT IT STOPS THERE.
YOU ARE ALLOWED TO NOT BE HAPPY WITH SITUATIONS IN YOUR LIFE THAT ARENT GOING WELL & UPSET YOU.
Yes You're Speaking from Places of Privilege BUT YOU'RE STILL HUMAN BEINGS!!
YOUR FEELINGS ARE F*CKING VALID!!!
The Fans & People in general who Genuinely care about you would LITERALLY rather you guys take YEARS away from RUclips OR Quit Altogether to Find Happiness/Peace & Live Your Lives in whatever Capacity that means for you two individually RATHER THAN Continue to burn yourselves out & grow more Miserable for Your Channels.
PLEASE. GO. LIVE. Even if living for a while means doing F*ck All! The important thing is its YOUR time to do what yoi want with it.
People will ALWAYS Complain. People will ALWAYS Judge. & People will ALWAYS Misunderstand Looking from the Outside In.
NO MATTER HOW CONSIDERATE & SELF SACRiFICING YOU ARE!!
So F*CK IT. You Both have done MORE THAN ENOUGH to solidify where Your Moral Standings are with all things & If people STILL dont get it? Dude they can honestly Go F*ck Themselves.
ALSO DESPITE YOUR BRAINS TRICKING YOU, YOU BOTH ARE DOING SO MUCH BETTER THAN YOU GIVE YOURSELVES CREDIT FOR. I AM PROUD OF YOU & YOU SHOULD BE PROUD OF YOURSELVES!!
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All of this^^
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Listening to them talk about their mental health is honestly so inspiring and reassuring. I relate to it so much. and SAME, I just want to have hobbys that aren't on the screen or sitting at my desk. it's so calming and somehow validating that even they have these same problems. I love you guys
53:56 Just that whole bit. You have no idea how relatable that is to so many people, including myself. Even more so for us neurodivergent folks. ❤
I love that I’m at work every week at 1am and the episode drops during my shift so I get to laugh by myself as loud as I want in a store alone 😂
I just have to say the boys looked nice in this episode, Seán's hair is magnificent and Ethan looks very good in his lil Steve Jobs fit lol. Excited for the in person episode(s)! Glad to hear both of you are trying to take care of yourselves and that therapy seems to be helping you work through those feelings. 💜
sounds like when my bf was on ''auto pilot'' when he was younger. for context, he had un- diagnosed autism, and throughout his school years he learned certain behaviors he would repeat everyday to just be ''normal'' or to just get through the day, he would describe to me that, it felt almost out of body, because he couldn't express what he really felt or thought, but was aware of what he wanted to feel and do, but just couldn't get passed what his brain basically learned to do automatically. he says he felt like he was watching a machine work without actually having the control of it. its kinda like dissociation, but you're aware the whole time. now, i'm not saying y'all have autism lol, i just wanted to share a similar experience that maybe helps explain what to call that lol.
I heard some advice and I think it really applies well here. "Do not compare yourself to anyone else. If you must, then compare to your past self and reflect on how far you've come, how much you've grown. To compare yourself to any other person doesn't make sense, because you can never BE that other person. It's unfair to compare pain or suffering that you've gone through with someone else, because each person experiences pain differently. We've all gone through different things in our lives, each moment leading up to the next. How can we possibly compare to anyone but ourselves?"
It's not that we shouldn't empathize with others, but comparing pain or saying that our suffering matters less than because there are others who have gone through something worse is foolish. That doesn't mean we should focus on it. Rather, we should feel it, truly feel it, and then let it go. It's not an easy thing to do, but it does help.
I struggle with anxiety and depression, it's been at least twenty years. There are days where I don't even know if I can leave my bed, let alone the house. I'm literally the worst enemy for myself. No one else can defeat that monster that stands in my way. Only I can do it. That being said, it doesn't mean I have to walk alone. As a wise person once said, "Burdens are lighter when carried by two, or more." We can be there for each other, sometimes just having another person to listen can help. I hope whomever is reading this, I want you to know that you aren't alone. You are beautiful. You are so much stronger than you know. And most of all, you are loved. And this world really is a much better place with you in it.
When Sean mentioned sci fi tropes but we are not what we are suppose to be doing. This is so true for disabled people. It immediately reminded me of A woman had a chip implanted in her brain for her seizures and it worked wonders, it gave her her life back, but because the company went bankrupt she was forced to have the chip removed and had to go back to the debilitating state, which was extremely traumatic. Disabled people have to pay exorbitant prices for new medical technology that we need to live or pay for upgrades. Augmented humans already exist, people with basically computers in their bodies already exist, thus cyborgs exist.... its not fiction, problem is we need this shit to survive and we are at the mercy of for profit companies that could be greedy bastards or entirely flop and cease to exist. There is a whole branch of ethics still forming around the idea of giving people medical technology that becomes an integral part of them and then taking it away, but those ethical debates are so new their is no way they have any baring on current medical trials. Its one reason I never want any implanted technology even if it would be helpful I'll take the older treatments its just too scary.
I know thats a little deep to come out of his comment but its so true
If you ever want a copy of the video of a surgery or medical procedure, you can always ask the place you're going to if they can do that for you. Just be sure to discuss it before hand because not all clinics have recording gear set up. I have a CD with a copy of my MRI records because I wanted to see my own brain and they were on board lol.
I wish i had something good to say. But i cant really think of anything. So ill just say:
If anyone is going through a tough time, with depression, anxiety, stress, ED, whatever it may be, just know that you're not alone. Those who you hold close to you are proud of you. They love you. They miss you. They're happy to have you in their lives. And if all you did today was get out of bed and shower, youre doing great. If youve just eaten for the first time today, good job, youve got this. If you brushed your teeth the first time this week, youre doing great. I hope everyone has an amazing day. Even if that day is just laying in bed watching videos. Youre doing good. And youre trying. Thats all that matters
Just listening to Sean & Ethan talk about their experiences with handling mental health really does feel so reassuring for my journey with mental health. Knowing that someone else to this extent is feeling similar or dealing with the same battle of emotions is just so validating for me. I love that these two feel comfortable enough to open up about it because it really has helped me and I'm sure many others.
I love how good listeners they are when they're talking about deep stuff
I love this podcast so much. I’ve been feeling really depressed lately without knowing whats wrong. I also notice my friends are all doing so much and its going so well for them and then i dont even feel like i’m living life. I dont hear anyone talk about having these struggles, so hearing you guys talk about exactly that makes me feel so validated and seen. Huge respect to these legends for being able to talk openly about this and help so many people
It’s crazy, the night Sean painted something was the night I actually painted something and it came out way better than I thought, it’s just awesome to try new things and explore, and what’s crazier is hearing them talk and finding out how just relatable their lives can be even though we live completely different lives
It’s so interesting and comforting to hear Ethan and Sean talk about how much they compare themselves to others, when I feel like they seem like the pinnacle of ‘success.’ I never would have thought that about them. I’m constantly comparing myself as an illustrator, designer, and creator. It’s like there’s just this long line of comparison happening amongst creatives all of the time.
There is always someone who has it worse, no matter what you’re going through. Somebody out there has it the worst out of any of us, and they are not the only person allowed to feel sad or anxious or stressed out.
Depression doesn’t care who you are. It doesn’t care about your job, your financial situation, it’s just a thing that’s in your head and it makes you feel shit.
I've had a lack of leakage lately but this just made me leak everywhere. 🤯
I feel like I needed to hear them talk about their feelings and privilage because i have been dealing with the same thing, i've been trying to make content for youtube but whenever I playback my videos it feels so terrible to see that it does not meet my expectations (if that makes sense).
Depression is the most cruel and confusing thing. I hope that when you wake up and it's not weighing you down, you have the best day ever because you deserve it. Not just our dear podcast hosts, but everyone who reads this. For days that it is on your back, sapping your energy and ability to enjoy things, just know that it's no one's fault, and that you will come out of it with the right support.
I rarely comment on RUclips, but I felt the need to on this video.
Ethan, Seán, as someone who is neurodivergent and has been suffering from clinical depression for over 13 years, and as someone who your videos mean a lot to (Unus Annus was a daily source of indescribable inspiration, joy, and laughter throughout some of the hardest times of my life, and Jacksepticeye videos have kept me company through really bad depressive episodes for over 10 years)... I really want both of you to realize how meaningful it is to hear you both open up and talk about your mental health problems/illnesses and emotional/creative burnout. I'm not exaggerating when I say that the "Let's Get Real" segment of this video is the kind of thing that saves lives. Talking about these difficult subjects makes other people feel less alone and less hopeless. I wish I could show this video to all the younger versions of myself who felt alone in the world, or felt like a freak, or felt like she didn't deserve to get help or talk to people about her problems, or shamed herself for feeling so depressed/burnt out, or spent hours mentally abusing herself because she just couldn't find the motivation or energy to get things done, or believed it when people told her that her mental illness was actually just a lack of appreciation for all her privileges in life. I really can't even begin to put into words how much it means to hear you two talk openly about all these things that I've also in some way, shape, or form experienced with my own mental illnesses and mental health. Thank you so much.
I really admire the both of you as content creators and as human beings, and as such I doubly admire you for talking about such deeply personal and painful subjects in this episode. And I want you both, and anyone else reading this, to know that any lucky and/or privileged positions you may have don't actually invalidate any of the negative feelings you may also be having, or your mental illnesses, or your depression. Nobody wins when we play games of the Suffering Olympics, least of all ourselves. Just because other people "have it so much harder" doesn't mean that you can't be having a hard time, too. If I break my toe, the knowledge that someone in the world has had their entire foot crushed doesn't actually make my wound heal any faster or hurt any less. Nobody deserves to have these feelings or mental illnesses, but everyone DOES deserve to be able to talk about it. Everyone is allowed to have problems. Everyone is allowed to talk about those problems. These are universal truths, and they don't change just because you're lucky or privileged or wealthy.
Maybe none of that means that much, coming from a random Internet stranger who doesn't actually know either of you beyond what you share online. I'm sure you've heard it all before, and you don't need random Internet people therapizing at you. But your content has been there for me whenever I was at rock bottom for years now. I would even go so far as to say, in all seriousness, that your content has indirectly saved my life at several points. And I wanted to take the opportunity to thank you, and to try to offer some words of encouragement and support, and to tell you that your fans love your content BECAUSE you are human, not in spite of it. We don't expect you to be happy and perfect and powered solely by Triple-A batteries.
Also, Ethan, your talking about alexithymia made me cry, because I never realized there was a word for it. My "no-no" words in therapy are "I don't know", because just like you, my therapist would ask me questions like, "How did that make you feel?" and I simply wouldn't be able to answer them any other way. It took me over two years of weekly therapy sessions to even just be able to say, "I felt bad today."
the mental health conversation was incredibly important and both of you are very valid in how you're expressing your emotions. This assumption that privileged people aren't allowed to complain stems from our belief that once we reach a certain amount of success, sadness and depression won't affect us anymore. Culture sells us this idea to keep us hustling and grinding because we believe that if we invest enough, we eventually reach this point of ''stuff is just good now'' but thats not how mental health works. no matter where you're at in life, your pain is valid. and if someone is fortunate enough to be able to take the necessary breaks to take care of what really matters: their own health! we shouldn't be bitter. its not their fault that the system doesn't offer this for everyone. stress and depression cant be measured by life goals or achievements. do whats good for you. take care of yourself as best as you can and seek out support. express how you're feeling. its all valid.
I switched from another video to this one ...sooo quick 😂😂😂😂
Remember: colonoscopies are done in the fetal position and not the fecal position.
mwahaha
I truly believe that guys also have their time of the month. Where you just feel like crap and depression sets in. And after a couple weeks you feel so much better.
This podcast is just a therapy session for Ethan and Sean ❤
"Comparison is the thief of joy", a phrase ive held close for a long time since recognizing my own depressive issues. Also, I for one welcome our new A.I. overlords lol.
It’s kind of comforting knowing that even people who have achieved financial/social success feel the same bummer feelings as me and others who have no idea what they even want to do with their lives. It’s also nice to hear about Cory taking breaks to take care of himself, as much as it’s a funny meme to joke about how long he is gone it seems like he has a really healthy relationship with his work and I strive to be like that with my dream job/hobby some day
I can relate with Seán I’ve had asthma since I was 3 and I was in the icu a lot and I had to see allergists and other doctors to have check ups. I’m glad I haven’t had a flare up for some time, during the pandemic it was really scary because I’m compromised.
I’m so grateful to have people that I look up to be able to have a healthy and open conversation about physical health and mental health.
to donate your body to science you have to be registered as a donor which you typically are asked when you get a drivers license which will leave a little symbol on your license for medical purposes.
I have chronic pain, PCOS, suicidal/ self destructive/ harmful thoughts, severe depression and anxiety (Both social and personalised), I'm in the process of getting assessed for ADHD and autism (being a woman in her mid 20s it's harder to get assessed or diagnosed), I have early-onset osteoarthritis in both knees and most likely other joints as well, and because of all my other health issues my depression and personalised anxiety disorders are exasperated to their extreme despite any help from my fiancé or family. I don't want to be a burden on my loved ones but I know that if I keep all my feelings bottled up I'll get to the dark point of my thoughts taking over me again and I definitely don't want that to happen. I need to go to a phycologist for the assessments but I also need to see someone just for my everyday mental health issues because despite moving away from my toxic father my mental health is still dark. I have hobbies, I enjoy crafting but when something goes wrong I get overly discouraged and have a breakdown over seemingly small things because of the pent up stuff in my head.
Brain leak is the only video podcast where I don’t skip the sponsorships
It’s funny that Ethan says he feels like he can’t complain, when just a minutes ago they made fun of people who say they have a harsher weather than them. Just like hot weather, your problems are relative, Ethan. Just yesterday I was feeling bad so I googled if anybody felt the same in my particular situation. Turns out there were people out there that had a better reason than I did for feeling that way. But that doesn’t invalidate my feelings. So it’s ok, Ethan. Your problems, even when you’re a privileged person, are yours and no one else has them. You can feel bad about it, and that’s fine.
The most important thing to realize is no matter who you are, what job you have, or how much money you have. Your problems are still problems, even if someone has it “worse” in your eyes. Your problems are still worth talking about and feeling. Youre feeling are valid Yall! We love you so much ❤️
the amount of joy this podcast brings me is unreal. i love listening to it on long car rides and also just sitting down and watching the entire yt video ❤
Please consider DBT as an option for therapy, Ethan! When I was diagnosed with ADHD at 22yrs old, I genuinely didn’t realize how bad I was at identifying emotions and categorizing them into anything other than ‘upset’. Dialectical Behaviour Therapy taught me a lot about reading/labelling those emotions and what they’re telling you, so you can choose how to respond and serve yourself better.
"Money doesn't buy happiness, but it sure affords a lot of necessities," should be the new extension of that quote. Holy shit, that's good.
NEWWWW EPISODEEE YESSSSSS
I just woke up and checked my phone, and saw Brain Leak.
Oh boy! 3am!!!
1:01:00 i was introduced to the emotion wheel during therapy some years ago and its helped me quite a bit because i used to just say i was feeling sad or like the most basic feelings or just saying "i don't know". In fact, my no-no phrase in therapy was "i don't know" lol
I never thought I'd ever get into painting miniatures, but once I got some D&D figures and gave it a try, I felt so fulfilled by the activity. People really should try out different hobbies if they don't have any of their own, there's so much to explore and learn about. :3
You legit upload this on the day I'm prepping for my colonoscopy. Lord help me😂
Hey man, good luck, I wish you well.
Hope its nothing serious
Idk Sean made it sound like a rollercoaster butthole adventure! Good luck though and stay checked before you get butt-wrecked, homie!
good luck!
Haha Same!!!
I'm so grateful to hear the guys talk about their own struggles with mental health because I think it's important to destigmatise it, especially in men but also especially in people who put so much of themselves out in the public like content creators, actors, musicians, etc. because sure... some of the issues they face with their jobs aren't the same as folks like me and many others who have to do that grind, but that doesn't LESSEN the problems. everyone's problems are relative only to themselves. and I do hope that they both have the help they need with their therapy (again, super thrilled to hear them promote going to therapy!) to ease back out of these spirals.
Regrading that deep personal emotion bit I actively watch jack and game grumps, roughly became a fan roundabout the same time (2017 ish) and I’ve been going back to watch the much more earlier stuff. I’m not sure if it’s cause I’m a little older and didn’t grow up with the older videos but I prefer jacks and the grumps vibes now. The high energy can be nice sometimes but I honestly love the low energy in their videos now. It feels like you’re just hanging out with friends rather than when jack said it feels more like a performance. I also watched unus annus and occasionally Ethan’s personal channel. But honestly love this side of him more. Overall I find this a really enjoyable, chill friend group podcast. It’s so nice and comforting and especially since I haven’t had any friends for many many years now, so thank you Ethan and Seán 🖤
Let’s give brain leak 1m subscribers for Sean and ethan!
this year i’ve been particularly enjoying keeping up tot date watching all of sean’s videos as they come out and even made a playlist of horror games hes played that actually help me relax and sleep. but since it’s been a while without videos i’ve really craved new content like the horror games again but at the same time i could see he was starting to have not as much fun with videos. absolutely seemed burnt out. just want my favourite online creator to relax and figure out what is best. but it’s difficult, having become so used to the spiking dopamine fixes and constant rewarding nature of the internet, to be conscious of the fact these things come from really people.
Sean, if you do want AC downstairs you could get a "Ductless Mini-Split" system. It goes on your wall and they would need cut a hole in the wall for it. People in the US often install these in places not designed to accommodate air conditioning like work sheds and garages. My father is in the process of replacing his old ducted central air system in his home with a Ductless Mini-Split system as it is much less expensive and he can do the installation himself.
Absolutely adore this episode. It's so real and I feel like us as fans and spectators develop a new appreciation for you guys because of it. Even if we have already been fans for years. Thank you guys!
currently 9am where i live, great thing to wake up to and listen while going to therapy
I find myself comparing my ability to do things to everyone as well. I am SO anxious and have panic attacks, and I hate myself for being unable to like think normally or be normal. I feel so seen in this episode
Alexithymia gang! It's not only having a hard time describing your emotions, though, it's having a hard time figuring out how you feel in the first place. I'm AuDHD and having a word for it was truly a game changer, because now when I feel indescribably shitty or just ~weird~ I know I might just need to go through a list of things, everything from "have I remembered to eat or drink in hours" and "does my body hurt somewhere" to "am I feeling nervous about the appointment tomorrow" or "am I just actually very excited". Before my diagnosis and learning about alexithymia, I would just ruminate and spiral wondering wtf is wrong with me because I feel *something* that makes my body react in *some weird way* but I have no idea what it is, so I'd just falsely file every possible emotion under "anxiety" and have no idea what to do to untangle it.
I love that you two are so serious and so silly about it.... it honestly does bring me some comfort. Both of you have honestly brought a lot of joy to me. - And all of these topics should never be stigmatized.
I was literally crying in the kitchen at work trying not to get tears on the eggs you guys have me laughing so hard 😂
As a nurse, I'm gonna guess that they absolutely would NOT let you film E's colonoscopy. US docs would be way too concerned about the risk for lawsuits in case there was a complication during procedure. You might be able to get a copy of the actual bowel footage, just not a real-time filming of the procedure and process.
Ethan, i think youre thinking of an incentive spirometer
LETS GO! love the late night leaking
I regularly have that issue, coming from a home where my family said they loved and their words an actions didn't match up, I'm only now table to fully sit down with myself and take time for myself without the fight or flight mode constantly turned on.
I've spent most of my life convinced that I had it better than anyone in my family and I wasn't allowed to feel anything because of it, so when I acted out because of my disabilities combined with stress or everything just being so much, I was the bad guy because I felt those things. no matter if someone screamed at me an caused me to spiral, or if someone broke something I found comfort in on purpose or accident, even if I did something, I am always at fault. So even when it's actually my fault, I beat myself up ten times worse.
The fun thing about therapy, is I can get better without being so in my own head.
It means SO MUCH to hear you both discussing your depression and ADHD. It makes me feel so fucking seen and validated. Thank you both.
Glad to know I'm not the only one who's been going through really bad depression lately. I had the same thing happen where a few weeks ago, I was feeling perfectly fine and then I just woke up one day feeling mentally awful and haven't felt better since. Still have no clue where it came from but hopefully it goes away soon because it's made it hard to even get out of bed some days. I already have generalized anxiety disorder so that on top of this has just been horrible
Actors get paid too much to “Act” they do nothing but lie to themselves and us by fulfilling a character that is not they’re own.
All for money. All for drama.
Sean and Ethan my friends, you fulfill yourselves by being grounded and opening yourselves up to who you really are. For your audience and to be true to you! You are the real entertainer! Your here for your audience and then some.
Keep Leakin!!
I 100% feel where Sean is coming from during the Let's Get Real segment but from the place of someone who hasn't even become successful yet so on top of all the depression, lack of motivation and whatnot I also have to worry about money.
For a long time I've waiting to even attempt to make content cause I've been saving for a decent computer that could handle making content rather then struggling to even run the game on this shitty laptop but something has always comes up to push me further from my goal, the most recent being my ex best friend stealing 3k from me.
Tho I know this is mostly me justifying my procrastination. My laptop can't handle much but there are games I could record on it.
Thank you for being candid about your dealings with depression, feels better to know others also struggle with how it interferes with their creativity
this is the podcast that never makes me anxious and makes me feel relaxed and laugh and the topics flow and change so well for me and you guys are doing a really good job
Oh my god, you guys. I have a shitty 9-5 with the joy decades of therapy and diagnosed borderline, anxiety and depression. I still think it would be a worse thing to be recognized plus having so many ppl/anybody have expectations of me of any kind.
Do you want you want! Sean, if you left for 6 months, the fan base would just be so thrilled to see you again.
You'll always have the fans, no matter how long you're not creating, you won't always have the money and energy to fulfill your dreams. Fucking get off your ass and do what makes you happy bro!
genuinely love this podcast so much. the VIBES are IMMACULATE.
also very excited for the in person episodes :D
If you feel any emotion for any reason at any time it is valid purely because you feel it. No-one gets to say how you should or shouldn't feel and anyone who thinks someone in your position has nothing negative in their life is naïve. Everyone has struggles.
As someone with several chronic illnesses, I often have people say "I know it's not as bad as you deal with but..." and every time I will say 'just because my situation is worse, doesn't mean that yours doesn't suck, your allowed to feel how you feel"
1:00:32 Yeah, alexithymia "is characterized by an impaired ability to be aware of, explicitly identify, and describe one's feelings". An emotion wheel can help with that, since it shows you different emotions and how they relate to each other.
I think it's still a problem for people to open up serious issues in general. There are those who get shut down, shamed for, or feel guilty for feeling negative and complaining about their lot in life. It doesn't help when people try to one-up you in suffering even when you understand your position being either higher or lower than others'. Even if there was some sort of objective way to measure misery, you still feel what you feel and you can't help that aside from having ways to cope with it. Not everyone's a good confidante, but letting it out to those you trust can help.
I’ve had a really hard week, and I suffer from similar things to Sean. This was really comforting for me today. Thanks ❤
Listening to Ethan and Jack talk about how they don't really have hobbies and talking about their mental health and relating to them is nice but also sad because it sucks that any of us experience this at all. For Ethan, I really think he should get into creating art, and not for a video like he did for the Bob Ross or spray painting videos. If you don't want to spend a bunch of money just go to Walmart and buy some cheap craft paints, brush packs, and canvas packs and just go ham on the canvas. Intuitive painting is fun and therapeutic at the same time. Jack, I think you should continue with painting the figures, but maybe find some that you'd actually want to keep? I also have Clinical Depression, so I understand that keeping up with a hobby or interest is hard but you guys got this! Great episode guys❤
Hoping Sean sees this:
They make breathing evercise devices that are designed to expand your lung capacity and strengthen.the muscles for breathing. They do this by letting air through on the exhale, but adding resistance to the inhale, so it sucks balls the first few times doing it.
I got one when I got an asthma scare last year. I had the worst cold I've ever had (worse than the one time I got Covid), and I was lifting heavy things at work and had my first asthma attack in years.
I love painting minis too; I'm just learning. Some of the ones I finish I end up leaving in weird places in friends' houses for them to find later.
Privileged people are people too, yall are normal folks just like everyone else and your problems aren't less valid to be upset about just bc others have it worse, there will always be someone out there who has it worse. I just think it's a good thing that yall don't use your privilege to be assholes, it doesn't have to be much deeper than that; be a good person to the best of your abilities, help fellow people to the best of your abilities, and when you're feeling shitty you deserve to receive the same kindness you've been spreading. That's the basics of it. If this sort of good behaviour was more systematic than it currently is, or at least not actively hindered because of the system, then the world would be a far better place. That's basically my life philosophy. I still struggle with very similar issues to yall but i just hope that when life feels awful i will make it through the day or week or month so i can remember what it feels like to feel good, to feel like a part of humanity's beating heart fighting to make the world better.
This is actually so cathartic for me I’m going through a lot and seeing you guys talk so openly about struggling is really encouraging
Edit: and then there’s talking about nick cage being the joker…
boys i am very proud of both of you. you make me feel less alone in my struggles, and your humility and openness is so refreshing to see. came for the funny, stayed for the relatability. take care of yourselves! also eef your money tree looks very happy and that gives me serotonin
Keep opening up and talking about your struggles, guys. It’s honestly good to hear.
Fun fact: the AI theory sean said he'd been thinking about for a while actually originates from his subnautica below zero series when he is talking about Al-an, which is from 2021, so he really has been thinking about it for a while