Honestly, Magnus' luckiest break is being born into a family that understood the magnitude of his gifts yet respected his right to be happy. Most parents probably squander the same opportunity one way or another.
His memorization was off the charts at an early age. That's the key, because these gifted players have multiple boards in their head they can play on. I remember hearing an interview of Magnus explaining how he thinks. The interviewer asked him about a position, and Magnus said he would have to play the game again from the start in his head. Think about when they play a blindfolded simul. Now think of what he's doing against one person where he can see the board. That's what I've always wondered about, is how many boards is Magnus using in his head when doing all those calculations. You can see Magnus and Hikaru looking up when they're thinking hard.
@Dancing Mulch I think studies showed that "chunking" is the key. It's basically a form of pattern recognition and therefore - in layman's terms - chess masters actually think/visualize/calculate less than weaker ones. Chunking works by "enhancing" retention of information in our short term memory (where we all are limited), through bundling "related" elements together (hence the name). Therefore chess masters are - generally speaking - not calculating on a move-by-move basis. There was even one study which showed chess players a real board configuration and a totally random one. It turned out the random chess position "baffled" the chess masters to the same degree as it baffled the other chess players - there were just no patterns to recognize and thus nothing to work with.
@Dancing Mulch Chunking is when certain patterns/positions of pieces are memorized as a single block of information, kind of like a word . And with great memory they can recall how these blocks interact with one another in their short term memory where most people can hold 7-9 pieces of information. Most moves are played on intuition from past experience, pattern recognition and theory about chess an being able to identify the dynamics of a position. Yes, sometimes they need to calculate multiple lines, for instance if I take with check your king might have two squares to move to, and thus two different "paths". But GMs typically don't have to calculate a line all the way through to "know" that it's good. With a good long term memory you can more easily build intuition and draw from insights and patterns in other positions. In given position there are typically several playable moves, and not every move will require deep calculation.
It's interesting that in at least come cases, no matter how much super-talent someone might have, it may still take many years of focused, deliberate effort to develop it to its full potential.
Yes, and it makes perfect sense. In any sport / competition - if you take one player with top-level natural ability and another player with top-level natural ability who has also spent many, many years training - it only makes sense that the one who trained would be better.
@@halfaheartbongobongo That just proves ability trumps hard work and effort. At that level pretty much every one is living chess 12-16 hours a day, yet only Magnus is the GOAT.
@@jibrankhalil4837 "Prove" is such a strong word ; ) Practicing is important, but practice does not equal time spent. Also practice, on super-GM-level, is likely highly individualistic, so will be hard to compare (e.g. as far as I remember only Magnus was very vocal about being envigorated by AlphaZero's play after reading Sadler's/Regan's Game Changer). I would love to see long-term empirical studies on how Magnus trains, on how Alireza trains and so on. But these guys have obviously better things to do : D
My father was so negative about any path that I chose to do he always made me feel so bad about wanting to follow my heart. I just wish I had parents that could have put things in front of me that could act as avenues for cultivating talent and expression. I had to learn that myself.
@@soumiliguchhait5177 well idk I've been playing chess for 6 years I'm 32 and I'm already rated 2000. So had I started earlier I may have been a top grandmaster today who knows...
Henrik is rated between 2000-2100 FIDE. His sister Ellen was rated around 1950 and one of the strongest women in her national age class, but decided to focus on studies, becoming a medical doctor instead.
While it's no guarantee of your child's success in any specific activity, it does make sense to back off at some point and let them figure out for themselves what grabs their interest.
Being a parent myself ...as a father , i just love magnus' father .the ability of his understanding ...he understands that children needs to decide for themselves what is and isn't for them....i just admire this guy ...its because of him that magnus found his greatness
Children are simple. If they enjoy something, they keep doing it without being asked to do it. That's how you know what's up. Don't put pressure on them and just let them keep doing what they're doing. Just give them more of the same thing that they already enjoy.
Since he is 2 1/2, I play chess with my son. We began playing with the horses with no rules, added pieces.. At 3 he knew how to put the starting position. At 4 now, we learn the correct moves for each pieces. The key thing is I never forced him to play, but just propose a game sometimes. And there is a chess set in his toys, so that he has the idea to play sometimes. I don't care if he becomes a GM, but I love the idea we sometimes will play together, and I wanted him to have the mental capabilities chess offers for his future.
Yes realistically it's outright impossible. It's even very unlikely that you will ever get a FIDE norm. But that doesn't mean that you can't become a strong player. Just have fun with it.
The guy *has* been the main second for a combined 8 world championship victories. It is worth noting though that he didn't start working with Magnus until 2013, when Magnus was already the world number 1. If you want to talk about Magnus' formative years, you need to talk about Simen Agdestein and Torbjørn Ringdal Hansen.
Ahm, Actually, I admire him also,. The special thing that i observed , When he losses a game he turned out to become ahm unshakable. 🤭🤭 (remembering his attitude towards Ivanchuk after his defeat).
Taught him chess, forgot to teach him manners, result we have a 34 y old man child, Magnus could have done so so much for chess, but instead he just drowned chess completely from its boom all for money
Magnus looks more like his mother, so do his sisters. And even if Magnus didn't have a mop that looks like it sprouted in the past fifteen minutes, he can afford to not go bald :p
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Honestly, Magnus' luckiest break is being born into a family that understood the magnitude of his gifts yet respected his right to be happy. Most parents probably squander the same opportunity one way or another.
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This. This is where he won already
This guy played Magnus with just a king and pawn. GOAT
I really like the bit where he understands that kids need the freedom to choose their own destinies. Seems like a genuinely cool guy.
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The master mind, of The origin of species, by means of natural selection, -charles darwin was Right, Apes can play chess. Hahaha
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His memorization was off the charts at an early age. That's the key, because these gifted players have multiple boards in their head they can play on. I remember hearing an interview of Magnus explaining how he thinks. The interviewer asked him about a position, and Magnus said he would have to play the game again from the start in his head. Think about when they play a blindfolded simul. Now think of what he's doing against one person where he can see the board. That's what I've always wondered about, is how many boards is Magnus using in his head when doing all those calculations. You can see Magnus and Hikaru looking up when they're thinking hard.
@Dancing Mulch I think studies showed that "chunking" is the key. It's basically a form of pattern recognition and therefore - in layman's terms - chess masters actually think/visualize/calculate less than weaker ones. Chunking works by "enhancing" retention of information in our short term memory (where we all are limited), through bundling "related" elements together (hence the name). Therefore chess masters are - generally speaking - not calculating on a move-by-move basis.
There was even one study which showed chess players a real board configuration and a totally random one. It turned out the random chess position "baffled" the chess masters to the same degree as it baffled the other chess players - there were just no patterns to recognize and thus nothing to work with.
@Dancing Mulch Chunking is when certain patterns/positions of pieces are memorized as a single block of information, kind of like a word . And with great memory they can recall how these blocks interact with one another in their short term memory where most people can hold 7-9 pieces of information. Most moves are played on intuition from past experience, pattern recognition and theory about chess an being able to identify the dynamics of a position. Yes, sometimes they need to calculate multiple lines, for instance if I take with check your king might have two squares to move to, and thus two different "paths". But GMs typically don't have to calculate a line all the way through to "know" that it's good. With a good long term memory you can more easily build intuition and draw from insights and patterns in other positions. In given position there are typically several playable moves, and not every move will require deep calculation.
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It's interesting that in at least come cases, no matter how much super-talent someone might have, it may still take many years of focused, deliberate effort to develop it to its full potential.
Yes, and it makes perfect sense. In any sport / competition - if you take one player with top-level natural ability and another player with top-level natural ability who has also spent many, many years training - it only makes sense that the one who trained would be better.
@@halfaheartbongobongo That just proves ability trumps hard work and effort. At that level pretty much every one is living chess 12-16 hours a day, yet only Magnus is the GOAT.
Chess is such a thing. Even super geniuses take a lifetime to get at the top
@@jibrankhalil4837 "Prove" is such a strong word ; ) Practicing is important, but practice does not equal time spent. Also practice, on super-GM-level, is likely highly individualistic, so will be hard to compare (e.g. as far as I remember only Magnus was very vocal about being envigorated by AlphaZero's play after reading Sadler's/Regan's Game Changer).
I would love to see long-term empirical studies on how Magnus trains, on how Alireza trains and so on. But these guys have obviously better things to do : D
My father was so negative about any path that I chose to do he always made me feel so bad about wanting to follow my heart. I just wish I had parents that could have put things in front of me that could act as avenues for cultivating talent and expression. I had to learn that myself.
I feel this.
Were you as talented as magnus in any field since 7-8 years of age?
@@soumiliguchhait5177 well idk I've been playing chess for 6 years I'm 32 and I'm already rated 2000. So had I started earlier I may have been a top grandmaster today who knows...
Magnus is the GOAT
Definitely in playing strength. With more criteria it's still debatable. But he's fast on track to be the undisputed greatest of all time
no question
Henrik is a very strong, attacking player himself, or was, maybe still is idk, but on the MagnusApp he sure is. Great job Henrik too here!
Henrik is rated between 2000-2100 FIDE.
His sister Ellen was rated around 1950 and one of the strongest women in her national age class, but decided to focus on studies, becoming a medical doctor instead.
It's interesting how similar he and magnus are when it comes to speech.
They are very similar indeed.
Thats how it sounds when most Norwegians speak English.
While it's no guarantee of your child's success in any specific activity, it does make sense to back off at some point and let them figure out for themselves what grabs their interest.
Being a parent myself ...as a father , i just love magnus' father .the ability of his understanding ...he understands that children needs to decide for themselves what is and isn't for them....i just admire this guy ...its because of him that magnus found his greatness
Children are simple. If they enjoy something, they keep doing it without being asked to do it. That's how you know what's up. Don't put pressure on them and just let them keep doing what they're doing. Just give them more of the same thing that they already enjoy.
Great parents.
as a father i find it so scary , it just seems so random luck that you get to find what your child is good at.
Glad to see Magnus continue with chess. Players are getting stronger and stronger. Hoping to see a human reach 3000 in FIDE rating one day.
When do you think we'll see a 2900/3000?
In the next 5 to 10 years for sure
So the parenting style was soft. Introduce the stimulus and the kids will do the rest on their own. Can't force it.
Since he is 2 1/2, I play chess with my son. We began playing with the horses with no rules, added pieces..
At 3 he knew how to put the starting position.
At 4 now, we learn the correct moves for each pieces.
The key thing is I never forced him to play, but just propose a game sometimes. And there is a chess set in his toys, so that he has the idea to play sometimes.
I don't care if he becomes a GM, but I love the idea we sometimes will play together, and I wanted him to have the mental capabilities chess offers for his future.
Great method!
I clicked really fast so i could learn the secret and become as good as him 🤣🤣
I hope you're 6 years old, now go study! :D
Me, a 37 year old who is learning: "So .. it might be too late to be as good as Magnus one day?"
Yes realistically it's outright impossible. It's even very unlikely that you will ever get a FIDE norm.
But that doesn't mean that you can't become a strong player. Just have fun with it.
wow, i like this before even watching (was excellent)
The best father ever.
Lol, you dont have father
@Manthan Grover® Lol, you dont have a father either.
bro at 7 years old i was watching Barney, and hitting my head outside, guess i fucked up lol.
I laughed really hard, thank you.
Peter Heine needs more credit
The guy *has* been the main second for a combined 8 world championship victories.
It is worth noting though that he didn't start working with Magnus until 2013, when Magnus was already the world number 1. If you want to talk about Magnus' formative years, you need to talk about Simen Agdestein and Torbjørn Ringdal Hansen.
Peter was in the first documentary on Carlsen 'Prince of Chess' 2005. He must be like an uncle to him now
Ahm, Actually, I admire him also,. The special thing that i observed , When he losses a game he turned out to become ahm unshakable. 🤭🤭 (remembering his attitude towards Ivanchuk after his defeat).
To talk to the pieces.
Is Henrik Carlsen Master strength?
Please make bobby fisher bot & bot Garry kaspravo in play magnus chess application because everyone want to play with this player..incomplete dream.
Magnus, you should always play song Enemy from Imagine Dragons.
Plz teach me chess 😔😔
Taught him chess, forgot to teach him manners, result we have a 34 y old man child, Magnus could have done so so much for chess, but instead he just drowned chess completely from its boom all for money
Woaw
Who's your favourite football player magnus
Lol he has the exact same face as his dad, lets pray he doesnt have the same hair genetics tho
Magnus looks more like his mother, so do his sisters. And even if Magnus didn't have a mop that looks like it sprouted in the past fifteen minutes, he can afford to not go bald :p
Foolish. Now a new era of super Gms will sprout like weed
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