The Road Bends Gypsy Traveller Documentry Film
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- Опубликовано: 3 янв 2012
- The Road Bends is a Film Documentry of three members the Gypsy Traveller community, from tales of family up bringing, Appleby, My big fat Gypsy wedding, site evictions to the cold hard reality of prison life.
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Thanks for making this insightful film. I have been using it as a teaching tool for the last few years as a comparison with Big Fat Gypsy Weddingsto show how the mainstream media represents minority groups negatively and as a form of entertainment. I believe your film has had significant impact in challenging the way many of my students think about the gypsy traveller community.
Just came across this Documentary I'm from Travellers on my Mums side my Great Grandad and Grandad became settled my Grandad was a General Dealer and he had a relative who was a bare knuckle fighter,for some reason we became separated from the travelling community I know I've got relatives on a site in Northamptonshire but I don't know how to find them,lastly my Grandad taught me some of their language I feel fortunate to have Romany in my blood but I'm longing to meet my lost relatives.
Simple but powerful doc - good work, do us some more....
Great wee film, well done
Excellent little film Darren. I am going to show it to my Media Studies class tomorrow (14 year olds) as we are looking at representation at the moment.
I'm an English gypsy and my family didn't raise us no way no how like that gypsy wedding show that show is a damn disgrace to any Gypsy so anybody that watches that and thinks that's the way we are there's something wrong with you they need to take that damn show off the TV
They should show real traveller culture where your boys rip off vulnerable pensioners for money they can't afford or bully ordinary people into getting their own way. The only reason you travel rather than settling is because it makes your trade easier and your trade is just crime and scams and moving around makes you harder to trace. You know it and so do most people but you'll cry like children and say everyone's picking on you.
Very honest & true well spoken
yeah man ...lost me mother young also !! i,m not a "traveller" but i travel about , from england to spain to asia ... cheers for sharing your life here !!!
Nice piece Darren. Pretty neat use of your inside time mate!
Gd Documentary well done lads
Very good documentary and I wish the best on the men in it.. This society needs to change.
No, they need to fucking change
That society needs to change.
I've just met a gypsy/traveller woman and I ain't no traveller/gypsy and I don't have nothing against them. any man can go out and rob/murder or fight not just the traveller community look at all these celebrity paedophiles you people just need to wake up in life and realise travellers are the same as us and just live our lives differently
There's 1 of 5 percent of people us travellers
Roma (Gypsies) And Pavee (Irish Travellers) are different people the same way Jamaican and African people are
But needs to have each other’s back against the states, no matter what country.
Hit the nail,on the head 👍
Glad to hear that guy talk about "grabbing" if it was my sister I am going after the guy too. That Gypsy Wedding program was bad.
It’s a hard lifestyle, I got respect for you guys, watch knuckle it’s about gypsy travelers who fight each other, it’s a good documentary
im glad he mentioned about the grabbing... my gypsy mate said the same!! that the grabbers are a small monority
I hate the fact some people are so rude. Ik how this feels as I’m apart of these🤬
Donnylass71 1 second ago
The 3rd lad talking Rocky Smith is from a lovely family, went to school from a early age. He's actually a very nice, well mannered lad.
People are so judgemental when they hear the words "gypsy's & travellers", but there's good & bad in everyone, we all make mistakes. lots of none-travellers commit crimes and go to jail too but we never hear people screaming about them. If people took the time to get to know them, and befriend one, then you have a friend for life.
Hi thanks for reply, yes your rite about rocky he's a good man. Can I ask you to share the video so ee can achieve more awareness that gypsy travellers are good folk. Thanks
Darren
I've had enough first hand experience with travellers to know to avoid them at all costs. It's not one or two bad apples it's an entire society that survives on crime and scams. I've tried not to think like this and give everyone the benefit of the doubt but there just comes a breaking point after which I'd be an absolute idiot to have anything to do with them.
Good luck boys when u get out all the best.👍
Personally think travellers are alright...never cause problems with our Pakistani and Muslim communities, dont call us terrorists and have a lot in common in terms of culture, God, Family, Respect. Simple way and simple life. Live ur traditions and fuck the haters
well said idnan ali
exactly brother
Thank you
@@darrenparker6668 the mad thing is that since my post we had travellers do work at our house earlier this year. Legends. Very polite and professional. Clean work. Good price and most importantly very respectful to my parents.
I wish my experiences with travellers throughout the years had been good, but it hasn't. When we were kids, they'd try and rob us, travellers broke into my parent's house when they were staying on the nearby common and the site near my house is disgusting, huge piles of trash everywhere. Every time I see one of these interviews, they always say 'real travellers aren't like that'... So when will any of us ever meet a 'real' traveller?
Some people are brought up wrong and that makes them stupid not respectful
The ignorance from some of them is astounding. They are all in and out of jail for all sorts but at the same time these guys have just preached about how society treats them unfair and that travellers are not given a fair chance.
Living near a site had plenty of problems with travelers they stick to there own . Which is fair enough , I won’t judge them all because I’ve met a good few aswell. Can’t judge people cus there’s good in all people .
We gave a traveller a very fair chance and he charged us £1,100 for an hours work repairing a roof. The repair lasted a week and he never returned to fix it or refund the money.
When I drove a taxi I was forced to take 6 in a cab licenced for four to their destination. They didn't care that it was my job on the line and they didn't even tip.
I've had stones thrown at me by traveller children from behind the railings where they made camp. They threw rocks at cars passing by too all well in sight of the adults
I've had too many bad experiences for it not to affect how I think about them...
Oh yeah, a traveller parked his car on the pavement and when he drove off he did so at speed and directly at me on the pavement.
They've got money because they all have nice cars so they can club together and buy their own bit of land to park on, preferably away from me
I thought it was a very honest documentary. And considering that many of them did not have a formal education, they expressed themselves and their thoughts very well.
There is already enough division in society, surely it is better not to judge others.
I think that if you look for the worst in any group of society you will find it, just as if you look for goodness you will find that also.
Whether you agree or disagree with their lifestyle, it is their choice and we should be respectful of that.
Never judge anyone, just as I hope no one ever judges you.
Life is far too short for conflict and I think we all have a collective responsibility to be fair and inclusive to all members of our society without prejudice.
I wish them peace and happiness just as I do for everyone else.
there travellers not degenerates
alleluia
+Ellie Doren Lol that's like saying they're motor vehicles, not cars
They might be bred for fighting but most travellers have a hart of gold
Nice lads in fairness
Good luck boys
Kings Lynn love it love the travelers I know many very good people
are ya from there
Thank you for this. Can you tell me why the name "The Road Bends"? I remember an old out of print book about Gypsy Caravans called "A wind in the road" and wonder if it's related?
Hi it means we never get a straight run in life. It has to bend somewhere
He's been in for 4 & 1/2 years...his misses is 3 months pregnant with...'his' kid...uhhhh
+Johnny Rotten, Yes rite haha 😂
+Bruce Flea ur obviously very concerned about how travellers behave and who they sleep with but be assured they woudnt consider u lord save us
+Ellie Doren, Why is 'BRUCE FLEA' so Concerned about what 'Traveller' men and women behave i wonder???, The Country has major Problems in the years ahead but yet He is more Concerned about Other Peoples sex life lol.
+Ellie Doren, What i dont Understand about the likes of 'BRUCE FLEA' and many others like him is that ..... If they think so little about the 'Travellers' then why are they Watching Programmes about them??? , I mean if i Disliked a certain Culture or Community then i wouldnt be Watching ot Socialising anything about them .... I honestly dont understand some Humans i really dont.
Westfalen Stadion
you ever watched a documentary on the nazis?
whatever you are in life - 'you can be successful or not'
I loved this.well explained to all the people who have racist views to these people do your research..I made a good friend.of.a Romany.gypsy while in prison I was financially struggling he had his mum send me money with out having to pay it back.realy good friend we kept in touch on our release .he works hard every thing he has he worked for and he is a very successful at his job.all travelers have problems just like the settled communitys..I hope this lad whent on to live a productive life...good luck..
yes big man see you round 1 day hope you keeping out now remember me from h.m.p lincoln got out on the same day..!!
He said gypsies are not bad people , how comes 60 percent of all travellers have been inside .? The other 40 percent don't get caught.
Mate I grew up with Irish travellers , I know the difference between them and Romany gypsies , you would not be able to tell them apart . They however both speak English and gammon and Romany.
+geoffrey fury errrm are you sure there mate....a 14 year old was "grabbed" married off then made pregnant.......0% noncing? ??? I don't think so......
But in the prisons therea about 80 percent buffers in there
How many locals are in side? He nothing said good on you boys fed up of out siders putting us down we get shit from school locals you name it why don't you look into locals rapists druggy beating up old people very true lads you can eat off are floors locals are rasists
Same can be said about politicians but they are peadophiles .
Good lads
Wisbech is in Cambridgeshire .
If they didn't leave a mess everywhere and destroy and steal then I really don't think anyone would mind where they were. I know I wouldn't but all my many interactions I have had with them has been nothing but stealing from my friends and family, intimation and aggression and always leaving crap behind!! Seeing settled people as they put it as a target is Not cool
Not all do that just like not all live in a carvavan
Sad what happens those people
we roll side by side with the travelling community colne is your second home please believe colne got alot of settled travellers outside of ireland,the best people are always those on the outside of socierty jesus n the lords people
My dad decided to drive truck he had gypsy wonderlust.
grabbing is not the travellers way any traveller girl who allowes herself to be grabbed should be ashamed of them selfs
i was in hmp risley with a lad called fankie joyce what a good lad he was i got on better with him than me own
People slam the door in their faces as cold calling is illegal! If your any good at what you do you wouldn't need to hawk!
I’ve met and spent time with several gypsys. And they are good people with morals and respect and an unconditional love for kin (FAMILY) if the country was run by ROMANYS the country would be a much safer place for our children. And I say that hand on heart
Lee surman fuck off 🤣🤣 there absolute scumbags and con men
@@terryjones2867 well thats a lie. You just havent had a good experience. You just think the worst. Wjere i live over xmas they helped the poor spent hundreds on food banks for them etc
My pad mate was a traveler, I helped him with his writing, letters and stuff.He was proper good .
Wonder how these boys are getting on now after prison ? Hope his landscape business turned out 👍
That just shows their schooling I've done 4 and a half years out of a 5 year sentence and his missus is expecting a child she's 3 and a half month pregnant but he has half a year left on his sentence it's just says it all 🤣
Have you never heard of home leave? If he has behaved him self in jail he would have spent a good few weekends at home after he has completed that amount of his sentence.
Shows your 'schooling' as well
Home leave is a thing towards the end of a sentence you know 🤦🏻♀️
There seems to be a lot of television shows about these 'secretive' people. The guy at 5:50 kinda knocks it on the head actually.
Nice people
Long life for the Irish travellers
You can get good and bad every where
Travellers bring it on themselves they chose not to settle down in one spot and break the law by staying where they please if they paid to be on a caravan site and didn't participate in illegal activities and work then they would have no problems with anyone but again they want to justify how they live as if it's not their fault and they think he rules should be different for them than anyone else they make their situation worse by not living by the law of the land which they choose to do nobody forces them to live like that
Homeboys at 11:31 and 12:38 are very handsome, especially the ginger. He’s beautiful and sexy! It’s horrible how they are treated.
The guy says his mrs is 3 months pregnant and he's been inside for 4.5 years of a 5.5 year sentance ?
He’s obviously in an open prison fool
hold on so he is 4 and a half years into a 5 year sentance and hes mrs is 3 months pregnant ..... the milkman strikes again
winston churchill 😆😆😆
He’s probably in a d cat open jail and gets home leave
He’s in an open jail. Look at the layout of the jail. Own clothes and a punch bag. Look at the cell doors,you get your own cell key. Cat D lads smh 🤦♂️
Medium Buttery; theres a such thing called T.R. its day release & sometimes even weekends!! He sounds fairly sharp now that guy, he's not wet behind the ears I guarantee you that.. 👍👏
Milkman ernie he.s the fastest fucker in the west
don't tar everyone with the same brush there is good and bad in all walks of life, I know gypsies and the ones I know are the salt of the earth decent people
You had to.use the tar 😂
@@sarahsmyth5383 hahaha yeah did not even notice haha
Is that tony mcdonagh
How do u know him?
Yeah it is
to the guys that write abuse on this page. can I ask you, do u know any gypsy or traveller people? probly not..we got a lot more class than those who open their mouths on a blog.. say it to us faces..no just hide behind the mask in the darkness, cowardly stand back and drift back into the Shadow's
fair play too you .live your life how you want too ,that's what I do .
A lot more class. How about all the filth you leave behind you. Even bags of your shit. Very classy....
well where good a nuf to take away your scrap for you or you have shit around your house ????
Except your shit is what normal people use a toilet for.
You talk from your ass mate you don't now wot life is grow up your action like a child in a play grown grow up cry baby
If you were n a America jail, you would never wanna go back for real....jails are easy here....
Interesting documentary. I've lived on the road, with Irish Travellers, Romanies and "New Age Travellers" I've worked for Irish travellers and had friends who were gypsies, though I can't rokka the lav as well as I used to, so I'm not just talking as a gorgio.
I've met some right bastards who earn their living as tarmacca's, tree pruners etc 99% of jobs were done badly and the customers pressured into handing over money, paying 1000's for half an hours "work". I could say more but won't, it would stir up more shit.
Then again I've met some very good people, but they can seem very aggressive to settled people, but that's the front you have to put on when your on the road.
I'm sorry lads, the travelling way of life in this country is finished, there's not the sites there used to be. Also why bring your kids up in the same unsettled environment you yourselves were brought up in. Give em an education so they can earn good money without having to go tattin for scrap and can settle arguments with their brains and not their fists.
Lastly I'd like to ask travelling folk how they'd feel if a load of strangers pulled up in their community, like muslim's for example. Travellers are prejudiced too. You get prejudice when pull up on site, especially if the last lots of travellers that were on the site were choring off the locals and left the place in a bloody mess when they left. You know the type of thing, empty gas bottles everywhere, unburied shit, tat and rubbish and loads of odd shoes for some reason.
The council are not going to give the next lot of families in trailers who pull up, a happy welcome if the last lot cost them £1000's to clean up the mess. Still I've been evicted meself, it aint nice, but if your not welcome somewhere why prolong the situation. Tat down and cor the drom.
Lastly, lastly then I'll shut up. If travellers were not so secretive and insulated, they may get more trust from settled folk, obviously your man in the house is going to have to meet them half way; there has to trust of both sides, though it isn't going to be easy.
Good luck to three lads in the film, I wish you the best, and to everyone else, try not to judge, though I know it aint easy. Kushti bok, may the road rise with you all.
Fairly put
Shut up country buck your not a traveller, we'll live how we want to the right proper way.
Would they do this to other cultures?
I think not.
is that hmp dovegate
Well they are,take it from me.
I don't have any prejudice towards travellers, I do think they should stay in school and get an education. One of the guys says about gypsy wedding making them look bad, I think it showed the girls weren't at all slags, they were all pretty much decent girls marrying their 1st and only loves. I think it's fuckin despicable that they can be kicked off their own land!!!
Think thats Fred Squires aint it?
Tony runs Manchester apparently. Sausage
Ones near Norfolk
Right just to set it straight romany gypsies come al the way from northwest India over 2000 years ago they was a nomadic tribe that fled gangus Kahn how ever you spell it they settled in modern day Turkey what they called little Egypt they traveled trough Europe settling in many country some stayed some moved on my family landed on English shores 500 years ago I have the family tree to prove so English Irish Scottish travelers speak a different language to us Romany's. Ps my last name is Irish because my mum married a traveller not a GYPSY.........
+Patrick twohey correct
Genghis Khan did well to chase these people off as he wasn’t around 2000 years ago he live in the 12th century
All MY FAMILY'S ARE THE FIRST BLOODS OF ANCIENT NATIVE IRISH AND ANCIENT NATIVE SCOTLAND,, INDIAN PEOPLE COME OF PAKISTAN PEOPLE BECAUSE PAKISTAN WAS HERE BEFORE INDIA,, THERE HAS BEEN HUMANS IN ANCIENT NATIVE IRELAND AND SCOTLAND FOR OVER 12 THOUSANDS YEARS,, I NO HISTORICAL HISTORY LIKE THE BACK OF MY HAND AND IVE BEEN ALL OVER THIS WORLD ALL MY LIFE ,, IM WELL TRAVELED 👌
THE REAL FIRST ANCIENT NATIVE IRISH AND SCOTTISH BLOODS LIKE MYSELF IM A FULL PEDIGREE OF BOTH IRELAND AND SCOTLAND THERE TALK WAS GAELIC CELTS LAUGAUGE,, THEY TRAVELED FROM CENTRAL EUROPE THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO,, IM THE FIRST PEDIGREE REAL BLOODS AND I AINT LING IN TELLING ALL TGE PLASTIC IRISH AND PLASTIC SCOTTISH WANT TO BES,, I NO MY STUFF,,
Taught from a very early age how to graft naive people
Jesus they all seem very nice Lads.........
On Camera.
They are anyway
I’m. Romany
MarshGate Donny?
Slam oualikoum. I'm curious to ask a question; are the three men Romnichals, or one of them is not Romnichal but Irish Pavee? Ana achkourak.
Mohamed Brahim Bosch Ramon - the first is Romanichal, second is an English Traveller, the last ginger bearded mush is an Irish traveller. We can always tell our own either by how they look or surnames
Then the one called Levy Squires is Romanichal. Thank thee a lot madame.
But to be honest I also thought the one named Smith by surname was also a Romanichal.
Mohamed Brahim Bosch Ramon - You welcome. I'm impressed you know a lot about our people. Yes, Smith (Petulengro) is a common and large Romanichal surname and some English travellers marry into it BUT my grandmother & other Romanies always said you can look at someone and know whether they're Romanichal or just an English traveller plus certain surnames are exclusively for English travellers. Confusing even more, we use the term 'traveller' to describe all nomadic groups (Scottish,English, Irish travellers, showmen & Romanichal). English travellers have little or no Romanichal blood and led a nomadic lifestyle as peddlers, hawkers, evicted tenants etc. way before we arrived in the U.K & Ireland in the 16th Century. Because we both travelled there was lots intermarriage & intermixture of customs such as hygiene or language e.g Romanichal words we use like mort (woman) ken (house) Jook (dog) come from English traveller Cant. English travellers will always assert they're English travellers & not 'Gypsies', whereas we are proud to say Romany. Saying all that, what's important is we are all Gods people regardless; Romanichal, traveller, gorger or Muslim. Have a great weekend
Have thee also a great weekend madame :) Since long ago I've written about Romnichals and also the Kirk Yetholm Romanichals :) Also I've always loved the Raggle Taggle Gypsy ballad. I've always studied authodidactically Romanichals were the first non-white people in Great Britain to suffer first Tudor (the devils Henry VIII and Elizabeth I) and then Oliver Cromwell (who was the first to deport Romanichals as slaves to American colonies) proto-capitalist expansionist imperialism and persecution. Also I know Romanichals have a much whiter look than in Spain because the less numbers of nomadic clans and the higher degree of intermarriage; although they (i.e. you) even preserve the Romany language after 5 centuries, a fact which demonstrates from mine point of view a great merit in preserve thy culture in this times of globalised uniformism. I do only know the names of Lee, Smith (Petulengro), Cooper, Squires, Saunders and Lock. But I've always admired the nomadic lifestyle of thy people :) I also think we all are human beings. Mine most affective salutations madame
Why are you knocking on random doors looking for work anyway. That'd not how any trades work.
shit man I remember the very first guy was in haverigg 2005 he was mental
Why?
they would rob a granny ,,,no shame
ray lawson care home owner bbc showed it she wasnt traveller or gypsy same thing in ireland not traveller or gypsy
Irish travellers do that sort of thing not all but some
Wee question I.d be asking .. how is his Mrs 3 months pregnant when he,s been in jail for 4 n half years
Cat d open prison dear
Sausage lol he was in open prison
It's called home leave, look it up before making a fool of yourself lol
Make me miss me dear little brother poxy stiripen
Proper needies don't need spray tan we already olive
Having watched this I can say that I have no prejudices against travellers or gypsies and other settled folk should be the same
Hmmmm, i get why they feel being moved on when they park up on the side of roads or on private land is unfair ... but the reason i understand that is becuase i understand the laws of England . If everybody dediced we were going to live wherever we wanted even if i ts private land . Where would we be ???
Also because they trash the area and leave rubbish and crap (literally) when they leave. Let alone the thieving and standing over pensioners, etc.
tony dillon, abuse is clearly what u set out to give. go move on and play someware else. ya thick lump
Lol did the gypsies write the subtitles as well? Dem spelling mistakes
Lived next door to some travellers, like the bloke said nothing like the tv made out , pretty normal people , don't bother them they won't bother u , still good mates wi them now good and bad in all walks
There not bad people who else robbs old people's houses yes would Rob people's eyes and come back for the lashes
No offence, but travelers wonder why locals don't want them there or won't give them work or trust them. Yet it says In this documentary that 60% of travelers end up in prison. That might have something to do with people not trusting you. Would you want to pay someone to do some work on your property knowing you have a 60% chance of employing a criminal? Infact it's likely even more than 60%, because not all criminals get caught and serve prison time. I know you can't tar every traveller with the same brush, but the traveling community as a whole don't do themselves any favours, if they wanted respect they should banish and shun the criminals in their groups. I do infact know some travelers and they aren't all bad, some are very honest and a shake of the hand is all you need to do good honest business with them, but some of them really let the others down.
Hi people the creator of the road bends here. Hope life is good for all
I have no issue with someone living their own way of life, no problem at all. But you can't complain when you turn up to a public, council owned (tax funded) field or park and just decide you live there now and the police turn up to kick you off. And they aren't turning up in clapped out trailers and 30 year old cars, they turn up in state of the art 40k caravans with Range Rovers. Why can't they buy a plot of land between them and then go and live on it, then they can do what they want.
Hold a minute, something doesn't add up with that statement.
SickLid every teenager ever in uk i mixed with more non travellers then travellers friday nights go to parks u will see dirt
SickLid because they ( government) wont give planning permission to travellers
You guys sound cool and seem to have repented. However, I highly doubt you're in any way representative of the majority of the community.
there r loads of travellers in Scotland !!! all over even born scotish travellers stewarts McCann mcgearys flynns etc lol Scottish irish English wales *******************
Is that Tony mcdonagh?
How do u know him?
Genuine honest smart traveller
That poem at beginning was from the heart. U could see how much it ment during filming
Media making out travellers are bad as always we are all human and all the same if I needed anything doing I’d hire least job get done
Don’t want nothing to do with gorgers don’t knock there doors for work then see how u get on
Perpetual victimhood! Never their fault.
No one owns this planet.if i could id build a wooden hut in the middle of a forest,and live in it.Lets be honest most people would.But then,my dad was a romany gypsy from hungary.Its in my blood
stop breaking the law..... you knackers
u continue to sit on ur sofa and draw benefit
Problem is they wana live the way they did centuries ago
But time moves on gotta move with the times
I a gpsy man bron and bread
Who tauted you how to spoke proper england?
U.K. Population could learn a lot from the travelling community how to stick by each other a good community
James Palmer don't talk Fucking stupid you mug. Half of the traveller families are chopping each other up with slash hooks.