....pensate che storia.... Ho avuto il privilegio di incontrare il mitico Maestro Guelfi in treno....nel 2007....per caso....o forse no....chissà.... eravamo nella stessa carrozza....incredibile....mi parlava dei più grandi cantanti e direttori della storia,praticamente.....con i quali aveva collaborato.... E poi,quando gli dissi di essere violoncellista,mi ha domandato....GIOVANOTTO,MI SPIEGHI ALLORA,PER COSTESIA,CHE COS'E' LA CAVATA! Io che spiegavo al grande Guelfi la Cavata!!!! Sembrava un sogno.....sicuramente un dono..... Avevo con me il libretto della mia Opera preferita....LA BOHEME......altra coincidenza impensabile.... Poi,è sceso dal treno a Verona e mi ha salutato dicendomi..... SI RICORDI LA FRASE PIU' BELLA DELL'OPERA.....e ha iniziato a declamarla.....(e piano piano,mi sono unito anche io.....) SONO ANDATI? FINGEVO DI DORMIRE,PERCHE' VOLLI CON TE SOLA RESTARE.....HO TANTE COSE CHE TI VOGLIO DIRE,O UNA SOLA....MA GRANDE COME IL MARE....COME IL MARE,PROFONDA ED INFINITA.....SEI IL MIO AMOR E TUTTA LA MIA VITA......(BOHEME.....ultimo Quadro.....Mimì che parla a Rodolfo) Grazie a Dio miliardi di volte per questo incontro che porto nel cuore e che mi fa riflettere sempre.......lo condivido con gioia immensa.... Antonio D'Antonio
Per mia fortuna ammirato molte volte all Arena di Verona nello Chenier del 1967 e nell ultima Carmen in coppia col suo amico di sempre Franco Corelli nel 1975!!! Colosso della Lirica Grazie ❤
@@Tkimba2 I am not sure. I never looked it up. There is a video on RUclips of him at old age talking about Ruffos lessons. ruclips.net/video/30-O79UlfnM/видео.html
VOCE STUPENDA!!!! VERY RICH VOICE FROM BOTTOM TO THE TOP. HIS OPENING ON HIS TOP NOTES ARE SO RICH AND FULL CHIARO SCURO SOUND. NO CONSTRICTION VERY FREE AND RICH AND CLARITY OF THE VOWELS. WOOOOOOW!!!!
Guelfi had a great voice, he sang Alfio in the DGG recording of "Cavalleria rusticana" with Bergonzi and Cossotto, conducted by Herbert Von Karajan - well worth listening to!
Dico solo una cosa......se un giorno avrò anche "solo" 1 quinto della potenza vocale di quest'Uomo unita ad una grande sensibilità interpretativa.......ci metterei la firma.
Yet another in the seeemingly endless list of superb baritones available in the 60's and 70's with big-time Verdi voices of beauty and power, who could also sing with taste and character. How pathetic the present roster of "great" baritones seems by comparison.
I prefer Giorgio Zancanaro, who has a much smaller voice but better technique. Zancanaro's overtone line is much better connected. Cleaner phase. Guelfi is a bit untidy here. Great voice but forces the chest in a bit too much here for my liking.
No way. Guelfi had a fully developped voice unlike Zancanaro. And what are you talking about when you say "forcing the chest"? Guelfi releases the air perfectly here he is not "forcing" anything.
@@umaratabilgi161 Guelfi is very good here, no doubt. However, his vowels are not perfectly clear and when he gets to the forte, he does push a bit too much air out. When you listen to Zancanaro, his vowels are as clear as speech. His breath economy is a bit better than Guelfi's. Maybe "forcing the chest" is not the best way to think about Guelfi's singing here, but there is a bit of an issue with his production that I can hear but can't describe to you clearly.... On the other hand, Zancanaro is able to sing straight up and forward even close to the top. He barely covers his sound at all, which you may like or not. I would not say Zancanaro's voice is not developed. He just doesn't have to cover and chooses not to cover, except for maybe the top two semitones of his range. Both are great voices, pleasure to listen to.
stoleczna14 Zancanaro covers too. Above e natural every baritone covers. It's just that Zancanaro does it bad and loses clarity. You are being fooled by the compressed sounds of the recordings. Guelfi's voice is much more released and natural then Zancanaro
@@umaratabilgi161 Yup, exactly that, Guelfi’s voice had more of everything.. it’s just that smaller voices record better and bigger ones worse. The mic compresses the smaller sound, and because the voice also has less darkness compared to Guelfi, it sounds clearer, but if heard live where volume is not equated and the sound is not compressed to be heard as more focused, you’d be able to hear Guelfi is not only larger and darker, but with more squillo too..
It's true that you should hear those voices live to judge. It's also true however that guelfi makes his voice darker and fatter than he should and loses ease and control expecially in his top range. Here he's in very good shape anyway and it's less evident.
....pensate che storia....
Ho avuto il privilegio di incontrare il mitico Maestro Guelfi in treno....nel 2007....per caso....o forse no....chissà....
eravamo nella stessa carrozza....incredibile....mi parlava dei più grandi cantanti e direttori della storia,praticamente.....con i quali aveva collaborato....
E poi,quando gli dissi di essere violoncellista,mi ha domandato....GIOVANOTTO,MI SPIEGHI ALLORA,PER COSTESIA,CHE COS'E' LA CAVATA!
Io che spiegavo al grande Guelfi la Cavata!!!!
Sembrava un sogno.....sicuramente un dono.....
Avevo con me il libretto della mia Opera preferita....LA BOHEME......altra coincidenza impensabile....
Poi,è sceso dal treno a Verona e mi ha salutato dicendomi.....
SI RICORDI LA FRASE PIU' BELLA DELL'OPERA.....e ha iniziato a declamarla.....(e piano piano,mi sono unito anche io.....)
SONO ANDATI? FINGEVO DI DORMIRE,PERCHE' VOLLI CON TE SOLA RESTARE.....HO TANTE COSE CHE TI VOGLIO DIRE,O UNA SOLA....MA GRANDE COME IL MARE....COME IL MARE,PROFONDA ED INFINITA.....SEI IL MIO AMOR E TUTTA LA MIA VITA......(BOHEME.....ultimo Quadro.....Mimì che parla a Rodolfo)
Grazie a Dio miliardi di volte per questo incontro che porto nel cuore e che mi fa riflettere sempre.......lo condivido con gioia immensa....
Antonio D'Antonio
M'hai fatto piangere, Antonio!
Grande!!! 😭😭😭🤧
Bellissima storia.
Forse a Verona cambiava treno per Bolzano dove viveva!
Per mia fortuna ammirato molte volte all Arena di Verona nello Chenier del 1967 e nell ultima Carmen in coppia col suo amico di sempre Franco Corelli nel 1975!!!
Colosso della Lirica
Grazie ❤
One of the greatest baritones and largest voices of his time, a 'lion on stage', as Aprile Millo called him. Bravissimo maestro.
Anche Domingo ha appena ragliato alla Scala quest'aria: "Nemico della Musica" ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
LOL
HHAHAHAHAHHA
🤣
AHAHAHAHHAHAHA
- Hai proprio ragione😂
4:23 wow
Now Placido Domingo, is ruining this aria.
I wish someone told me about this baritone sooner. What a full-bodied sound.
@@Tadpoletofrogs I didn't know Ruffo was a teacher. Did he have any other famous student?
@@Tkimba2 I am not sure. I never looked it up. There is a video on RUclips of him at old age talking about Ruffos lessons. ruclips.net/video/30-O79UlfnM/видео.html
Uno dei pochi baritoni veri negli ultimi 60 anni .
1 Guelfi = 50 coristi con la voce di Leo Nucci presi insieme .
IMMENSO !
bodiloto's hater Che Milnes!! 😆
bodiloto's hater che un dramatico!!! Hahaha!!
bodiloto's hater Anybody with functioning ears who heard them live, no mic, will tell you otherwise
Milnes ??hahaha ar u kidding?????
Il baritono e basta... non ci sono altri baritoni
VOCE STUPENDA!!!! VERY RICH VOICE FROM BOTTOM TO THE TOP. HIS OPENING ON HIS TOP NOTES ARE SO RICH AND FULL CHIARO SCURO SOUND. NO CONSTRICTION VERY FREE AND RICH AND CLARITY OF THE VOWELS. WOOOOOOW!!!!
Guelfi had a great voice, he sang Alfio in the DGG recording of "Cavalleria rusticana" with Bergonzi and Cossotto, conducted by Herbert Von Karajan - well worth listening to!
Yes, wonderful recording. For me he is the only Alfio. Karajan’s is my favourite Cav and Pag. A pity he didn’t make more commercial recordings.
Grazie Ziropera per caricare questi gioielli della tua collezione!
Hvorostovsky seams Guelfi's kitten
A flea on the kitten
I think we should be kinder to Hvorostovsky. Sure, he didn't have the natural instrument of Guelfi but he did deliver some very moving performances.
ruclips.net/video/kJcslRqYMIA/видео.html
veramente grazie Ziropera per la tua generosita'!!
Guelfi e' immenso!
The singing is outstanding! What an instrument! Every singer should have a great instrument!
E inmensogrande😮
A hugely underated Great!
Splendida Performance!!! Grazie
Dico solo una cosa......se un giorno avrò anche "solo" 1 quinto della potenza vocale di quest'Uomo unita ad una grande sensibilità interpretativa.......ci metterei la firma.
Another great Singer, overshadowed by more famous names,sadly
Words simply fail me. Brilliant
MERAVIGLIAAAA!!
Bravo
The good ol real baritone days
Un bombordamento..
Yet another in the seeemingly endless list of superb baritones available in the 60's and 70's with big-time Verdi voices of beauty and power, who could also sing with taste and character. How pathetic the present roster of "great" baritones seems by comparison.
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I prefer Giorgio Zancanaro, who has a much smaller voice but better technique. Zancanaro's overtone line is much better connected. Cleaner phase. Guelfi is a bit untidy here. Great voice but forces the chest in a bit too much here for my liking.
No way. Guelfi had a fully developped voice unlike Zancanaro. And what are you talking about when you say "forcing the chest"? Guelfi releases the air perfectly here he is not "forcing" anything.
@@umaratabilgi161 Guelfi is very good here, no doubt. However, his vowels are not perfectly clear and when he gets to the forte, he does push a bit too much air out. When you listen to Zancanaro, his vowels are as clear as speech. His breath economy is a bit better than Guelfi's. Maybe "forcing the chest" is not the best way to think about Guelfi's singing here, but there is a bit of an issue with his production that I can hear but can't describe to you clearly.... On the other hand, Zancanaro is able to sing straight up and forward even close to the top. He barely covers his sound at all, which you may like or not. I would not say Zancanaro's voice is not developed. He just doesn't have to cover and chooses not to cover, except for maybe the top two semitones of his range. Both are great voices, pleasure to listen to.
stoleczna14 Zancanaro covers too. Above e natural every baritone covers. It's just that Zancanaro does it bad and loses clarity. You are being fooled by the compressed sounds of the recordings. Guelfi's voice is much more released and natural then Zancanaro
@@umaratabilgi161 Yup, exactly that, Guelfi’s voice had more of everything..
it’s just that smaller voices record better and bigger ones worse. The mic compresses the smaller sound, and because the voice also has less darkness compared to Guelfi, it sounds clearer, but if heard live where volume is not equated and the sound is not compressed to be heard as more focused, you’d be able to hear Guelfi is not only larger and darker, but with more squillo too..
It's true that you should hear those voices live to judge. It's also true however that guelfi makes his voice darker and fatter than he should and loses ease and control expecially in his top range. Here he's in very good shape anyway and it's less evident.