@@CaptainBardielHow is this so? Europe, America and Israel can never be blamed, even if they turn entire countries to ashes :-) And leave the idea of a gray world in which there is always someone who attacks and someone who defends. It's just that on TV, the attacker is usually shown as a hero, and the defender is shown as a terrorist.
I’m still absolutely obsessed with the line “We are once again reminded of the depths of their depravity” as the ship takes off to cause a false flag incident. Absolute cinematic poetry
Just remember that Visarys had Pyrrhus evacuated of all civilians at the beginning of KZ2 and the city had already fallen under ISA control what he did nicking the city was just what Khutuzov did back in 1812 by burning Moscow down so that Napoleon couldn’t occupy it for long
@@clementbianchini8651 'Just remember that Visari had Pyrrhus evacuated of all civilians at the begi-'. 'yes'.... Lore-wise speaking. with those said-reserved HGH fleet transports returning to the helghan capital location, once they were finished with one of their main original pre-OP: ARCHANGEL era objectives. '-and the city had already fallen under ISA control what he did-'. so much well done (kind of. though, perhaps faulting a bit of how those developers from back then portrayed the military-based scenarios of the OP:A events and how they were done in-game (outside of some of the KZ universe Lore detail portrayals) on that Rebel colony's surface being the reasons, etc. so) from the ISA (Vektan branch)'s, until freaking Scolar just had to go for that one advanced nuclear option that they had still in their hands, huh. oh darn it. really was, from back then. (Desperation for both factions after that too. as some of us can remember that brutal (dependable difficulty choice experience for any here/out there, in-game) final mission of KZ02's portrayal of it). '-Dest-'. hm. well, the capital of that Rebel, seceded planet's is named after the historical 'pyrrhic victory' after all (for another example alongside your mention of Napoleon's example, Khutuzov's, etc other examples). fittingly.
@@CaptainPilipinas I am not sure what your point is the city was still empty of civilians when the nuke was launched and the population was surely sent in other cities of the regions which where not attacked yet, with such a massive army it’s unlikely that Pyrrhus was Helgan only city, it’s destruction killed many ISA combat personnel with few Helghast ones and framing the ISA bolstered the Helgan population moral in the war effort. Moreover, the nuke was probably not that powerful as Visary who stood in the city was not killed by the blast nor the radiation were that strong as Sevchenko’s squad traversed the city in and out while going to kill Visary and later in KZ3 leaving the city
@@clementbianchini8651 (er. I was not finishing editing my 1st response to you. my bad for that then. though it is now fully readable. if any here seeing my 2nd comment's here could go back to it?....).
Yeah but Helghasts were much cooler, not to mention their goals were justified. Vekta rightfully belongs to their heritage, they were just trying to reclaim what is theirs.
says the faction that has 6+ losses still for like the last 2+ Centuries. no way they would be Easily able to usurped the rest of the territories and back to the home System, heh.
@@maestrofeli4259 (sorry. I did not see you there on time). wait, which one? KZ02? KZ03?.... maybe even KZ:M? I'm not talking about Gameplay (yes. not speaking about the fun Campaign experience of that one (and Only one time. Damn developers) ISA archer tank playthrough back in KZ02 as an example, etc). more like Lore-wise instead. the narrative storytelling, etc etc I mean. if you mean like the visial portrayals of the second extrasolar war during in KZ02's for example, then.... that, I could agree (though at times I would prefer the experience of KZ03's, compared to its visually-just-similar but-older-still previous second game's. for some reason).
@@CaptainPilipinas I think killzone 2 is a very good game, killzone 3 is just good, the ps vita one I haven't played but I heard that it is pretty good so I'll just say that it is also "good". Killzone 1 is fine but shadowfall is pretty bad, it's only good aspect is that it is very visually stunning and that's it. Combat is below average, story is shit. Gameplay is pretty boring st times. What a way to kill a franchise.
@@panzerrjcb hrm. then guerrilla didn't really give a flip in expanding more back in their previous IP's potential then. which was kind of a shame. not to mention mostly that the KZ franchise was natively console-only. nothing on something like arma's.
Good. let's keep it that way. as the last 30+ Years long after that 2nd ES war ended is already much of a permanent damage for that faction. even if it is also unfortunately costing a lot of Unnecessary mortal deaths within UCN space as their old news kind of protests continue to deteriorate close to their Human vektan neighbors' homes.
1:29 Orlock: "Six months ago... Our enemies murdered a great man. Scolar Visari. Our nation's father. Today we remember the hope he gave us. The purpose that he gave us. The vision he gave us. A vision in which the Helghast people reclaim their rightful place in this universe. Years from now, we will tell our children of this day. The day his vision became our reality!"
'-it gives me chil-'. because knowing such, that they are Very Hypocritical even to their own colony members.* those shots right there. shown. 'Righteously' pumping coming from their pre-emperor leader's mouth, that's the one side of the surface. But Look at those after at the same time, the side of reality while the Red Dust shockwave sweeps in on those scenes metaphorically revealing the truth and all of what has been exactly happening down on helghan. and Scolar Knows that anyways. being aware, and yet they continue. *the very same ones that those highly, and strongly-supportive helghan military dudes above off the majority of the population alongside Scolar claimed that they would make their faction 'great'.
@@Quinnaka nah KZ ShadowFall had good ideas but Sony was really pushing Guerrilla to meet the launch of PS4. They only had two years to develop it. They should have made ShadowFall an infiltration game like Far Cry. The Helghast, The Patriot showed us what ShadowFall could have been. They should take it back and make KZ4 or do ShadowFall 2 and get it correct.
He's a Witness. Visary blew up his own capital but wanted to put the blame on the ISA so that the people (what was left of it) wouldn't surrender. That plan kinda goes out the window when you have a lot of witnesess to counter your bullshit.
Stupid guerilla You make one of the awesomest villains in video game’s history and you don’t allow us to play as them and we even destroy their planet with only ~100 soldiers
I remember feeling a bit weird playing as the "Good Guys" and hearing the enemy soldiers scream stuff like "THIS IS OUR FUCKING PLANET!!" at me...they did kind of have a point...
@@grimsoncrow Yes, and Germans definitely felt like they were defending Germany from invaders when the combined armies of the Allies to the West, and the Soviets to the East made it to them. If you're facing a totalitarian regime, it's virtually guaranteed they won't surrender unless you completely defeat them (i.e. conquering their country in turn, and deposing, arresting, executing the lunatic responsible), especially if they started the war in question (which the Helghast did under Visari's rule). I'm sure a more than a few knew that, but hey, they're STILL defending their home from people they can logically expect to be very, very angry and possess a desire to exact vengeance since their attack had not only been unprovoked and by surprise, but they were brutal and ruthless during their own invasion of Vekta, slaughtering civilians. Their propaganda also looks to be especially effective, so many of them may believe they were totally justified doing what they did on Vekta, and are incensed that you'd dare step foot on sacred Helghan soil. At the same time, it is natural to feel that way. You ARE invading another world, ripping it up while trying to get to the people who are behind the madness and refuse to stop the fighting on the chance they may win, and manage to go back to YOUR home and try to conquer it again. Removing Visari AND his key supporters/figures in his regime and installing a garrison to oversee the process of de-Visarification of their society would be the only way to end the war, and hopefully reduce the immediate and long-term likelihood of another one. Problem was that a large number of prominent Visari-officials and commanders (like Dahl and Orlock) remained at large, so even when the cue-balled space-nazi Brian Cox was dead, they still had leaders willing to keep the meat grinder madness going, not to mention the false-flag nuke on their capital...plus their astounding capacity to pull yet another vast legion of seemingly well-equipped, well-trained, firmly indoctrinated, professional soldiers in the Second Army out of their asses for those assholes to set loose on the rest of humanity. The Helghast had absolutely mind-numbing reserves of resources, man-power, and warships, even for a heavily militarized society (they've only been building this new order for a decade or so, which can still produce frightening levels of ), but I think that fleet/army combined force of the Second Army should probably have been the last large concentration of their good-quality troops since they'd lost both the First and Third in a period of less than 12 months. Since population and industrial capacity figures aren't fun gameplay (understandably), we don't know their true capacity to form and equip new armies and warships, we could say they'd still need a fair amount of time, logistics and leadership which they wouldn't have without guys and gals like Dahl and Orlock. You literally have to hunt down and arrest or execute all members of totalitarian regimes after you beat their nations into submission, because if you don't, you have the potential for a partial or complete resurgence of the regime that just tried to conquer and enslave you. Self-preservation dictates that if you have beaten an enemy that has every intention of coming back to try again later, don't give them the chance. You weren't the Nazis, and as understandable as their rampages may have been, you weren't an enraged soldier of the Red Army either. You were a !SpaceAmerica guy who had to fight off one invasion, and go launch your own to try and remove the source of the poison on Helghan that wouldn't go away if you ignored it. Now, the Allies weren't saints, but they were also less steeped in hatred for the Nazis, as the USSR had to bear the brunt of their aggression and crimes against humanity, they were exactly what that Helghast trooper thought you could be. An angry, hateful, vengeful and vindictive enemy ready for the chance to even the score. The job wasn't entirely clean, but you didn't have any other choice, and you avoided (and assuming the great bulk of ISA personnel also did) reprisals, and you needed to stop that mad bastard Visari and his court of lieutenants and opportunistic ministers from coming back again. I'm sorry I wrote you a small essay, but I love talking about this stuff.
@@KeeperofthePeace This giant wall of text kind of discounts that inconvenient fact that the ISA stole Vekta from Helghast in the first place, which is the entire reason they were on Helghan to begin with, lmao. You objectively play the villains in Killzone. The true Vektans wouldn't have gone all spring time for Hitler if their home wasn't jacked from them. Much like in real life, the ISA covers up their thuggery by putting on the veneer of being some goodie two-shoes democracy in their home territory while thugging out when elsewhere where they can't be held accountable.
@bLackstar actually not jealousy it was a tariff and tax thing see the helghast lived in alpha centauri system and they offered the UCN too buy it out right giving the ability too tax and colonize freely for helgans UCN usually would refuse but did the deal overtime they became concerned and upset over the helghasts strive too power and put stricter laws on them not lettin them tax as much and not being able too have a huge home fleet of course helghan Co. Said F that and the UCN launched a full scale invasion on the helgan solar system that is how the first extrasolar war began too bad we never got a game on it
also, by the sound of your choice of words from Hours back, this is your first time with this KZ franchise right? Lore, even Gameplay-only, etc. that kind.
Loved the brutal execution and the fun multiplayer gameplay from the third. Miss this series a lot. After they milked that redhead girl (LOL), maybe they could bring it back, at least a remake of the first trilogie.
if you are talking about that seyka Random (none to the offense, but true) not too long ago this Year.... then I Agree. both for suggesting some reforming possibility of the KZ franchise's and for that current storytelling's Sorry state choice of those developers' after they Try to go naughty dog-like on that DLC. [EDIT-01]: yes. a remaster. [EDIT-02]: ah. for a Second there I thought you only meant during in the events of KZ01 (especially that game. boy! do I not like its Very old Gameplay experience).
Just remember that Visarys had Pyrrhus evacuated of all civilians at the beginning of KZ2 and the city had already fallen under ISA control what he did nicking the city was just what Khutuzov did back in 1812 by burning Moscow down so that Napoleon couldn’t occupy it for long
depends. for one, Unfortunately None of the previous IP's games of guerrilla's were open worldly (Sadly. especially on places all over UCN/ISA space, like the planetary Vektan capital?.... would have been nice, etc). Lore-wise.... I think I would prefer the KZ franchise's of them. Gameplay-wise: horizon games -(minus that first VR attempt of theirs not too long ago this Year still)- usually. though I sometimes miss the Gameplay interactive experience of the KZ games.
here's how to take it, an excellent story, with an atmosphere unique and epic is to transform it over the years, into one bleak copy paste of a normal shooter for two money ..... pity One last thing for the managers ... dickheads, it cost you too much keep a server alive in order to play 2 or 3 it cost you too much those 5 dollars a month .........
@@arkantos-arkantos6092dependably Obviously, Unfortunately. and it is grimly funny that this isn't the first time that those helghan colonists kept doing such methods like that....
yes. KZ02's, it seems. next to KZ01's being second, at least for me.... because such scenes, even if they are Short (and guerrilla is just like another bungie-like Squat! even to this Day) only, shows some of the feats (eh, not really too much back with those helghans' showing) of both two major Space Human factions' (within UCN Space) naval capabilities in a visual showing in those first times for example.
@@happy1609 no helghans are actually decent people hope google translates it well enough but The ISA and UCN started the war with helghan when they bought out a solay system and didnt like the taxes or tariffs for buying it they didnt want someone being more powerful then them so they waged war lool up first extra solar war and you'll see helghast arent the starters of this war isa and helghan are not good eitber both commited serious atrocities
This reminds me of Helghans (Isreal) attack peaceful planet Vekta (Palestine) and nuke their own city Pyrrhus (Samson Directive) to obliterate ISA (Iran) ground forces. Scholar Visari is similar to Benjamin Netanyahu
I always loved how the games couldn't hammer more the fact that the Helgasts are the bad guys, not only in their design but their actions and historic parallels as well as the way their fascist government operates (for example, allowing Radec to execute soldiers for effin uniform violations)it's pretty clear that Visari was a dictator who didn't care for his people and did nothing to give the helgast better living conditions and merely used the hate against the Vektans to solidify his power , had he conquered Vekta the Helgast's life would still be hell. The Hellgasts are not the Good guys, they were merely given a tragic backstory to give them a little depth since they are so incredibly, cartoonishly evil. Nor were they some kind of great military lmao, they had the Vektans outnumbered and outgunned at every single opportunity and they keep losing to the lamest good guys in existance who are part of a military with improvised vehicles and weapons.
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I always loved how this game potrays the both sides as the bad guys
well that's honesty there.
but with different concluded feels. hrm.
In war, there's no black and white, only grey.
@@CaptainBardiel and stains of red
That's war. Everyone is the good guy in their story.
@@CaptainBardielHow is this so? Europe, America and Israel can never be blamed, even if they turn entire countries to ashes :-) And leave the idea of a gray world in which there is always someone who attacks and someone who defends. It's just that on TV, the attacker is usually shown as a hero, and the defender is shown as a terrorist.
I’m still absolutely obsessed with the line “We are once again reminded of the depths of their depravity” as the ship takes off to cause a false flag incident. Absolute cinematic poetry
Yes. [Dryly grunted] both of those twin colonial Systems, hrm.
Just remember that Visarys had Pyrrhus evacuated of all civilians at the beginning of KZ2 and the city had already fallen under ISA control what he did nicking the city was just what Khutuzov did back in 1812 by burning Moscow down so that Napoleon couldn’t occupy it for long
@@clementbianchini8651 'Just remember that Visari had Pyrrhus evacuated of all civilians at the begi-'.
'yes'.... Lore-wise speaking. with those said-reserved HGH fleet transports returning to the helghan capital location, once they were finished with one of their main original pre-OP: ARCHANGEL era objectives.
'-and the city had already fallen under ISA control what he did-'.
so much well done (kind of. though, perhaps faulting a bit of how those developers from back then portrayed the military-based scenarios of the OP:A events and how they were done in-game (outside of some of the KZ universe Lore detail portrayals) on that Rebel colony's surface being the reasons, etc. so) from the ISA (Vektan branch)'s, until freaking Scolar just had to go for that one advanced nuclear option that they had still in their hands, huh.
oh darn it. really was, from back then. (Desperation for both factions after that too. as some of us can remember that brutal (dependable difficulty choice experience for any here/out there, in-game) final mission of KZ02's portrayal of it).
'-Dest-'.
hm.
well, the capital of that Rebel, seceded planet's is named after the historical 'pyrrhic victory' after all (for another example alongside your mention of Napoleon's example, Khutuzov's, etc other examples). fittingly.
@@CaptainPilipinas I am not sure what your point is the city was still empty of civilians when the nuke was launched and the population was surely sent in other cities of the regions which where not attacked yet, with such a massive army it’s unlikely that Pyrrhus was Helgan only city, it’s destruction killed many ISA combat personnel with few Helghast ones and framing the ISA bolstered the Helgan population moral in the war effort. Moreover, the nuke was probably not that powerful as Visary who stood in the city was not killed by the blast nor the radiation were that strong as Sevchenko’s squad traversed the city in and out while going to kill Visary and later in KZ3 leaving the city
@@clementbianchini8651 (er. I was not finishing editing my 1st response to you. my bad for that then.
though it is now fully readable. if any here seeing my 2nd comment's here could go back to it?....).
Every game Visari just knows how to make one hell of a speech
6+ losses later. for 2+ Centuries long.
I think the voice actor of Visari also played Herman Goring in the Nuremberg Film
I love how this intro makes the conflict into an intergenerational war of reconquest.
*PHD Thesis level comment*
What the First Order should’ve been.
They kinda were like this
Just a watered down version
@@cosmickeyboard9811 also a bit generic bad guys too
Yeah but Helghasts were much cooler, not to mention their goals were justified. Vekta rightfully belongs to their heritage, they were just trying to reclaim what is theirs.
says the faction that has 6+ losses still for like the last 2+ Centuries.
no way they would be Easily able to usurped the rest of the territories and back to the home System, heh.
It will be.
Veterans from Helghan campaign salute here
One of the most astounding PlayStation's sci-fi game series, EVER.
in Lore. yes....
if it could have been more, then....
@@CaptainPilipinasyep. Sadly there's only one truly great game in the series. The rest range from "good" to "mediocre".
@@maestrofeli4259 (sorry. I did not see you there on time).
wait, which one? KZ02? KZ03?....
maybe even KZ:M?
I'm not talking about Gameplay (yes. not speaking about the fun Campaign experience of that one (and Only one time. Damn developers) ISA archer tank playthrough back in KZ02 as an example, etc). more like Lore-wise instead.
the narrative storytelling, etc etc I mean.
if you mean like the visial portrayals of the second extrasolar war during in KZ02's for example, then....
that, I could agree (though at times I would prefer the experience of KZ03's, compared to its visually-just-similar but-older-still previous second game's. for some reason).
@@CaptainPilipinas I think killzone 2 is a very good game, killzone 3 is just good, the ps vita one I haven't played but I heard that it is pretty good so I'll just say that it is also "good". Killzone 1 is fine but shadowfall is pretty bad, it's only good aspect is that it is very visually stunning and that's it. Combat is below average, story is shit. Gameplay is pretty boring st times. What a way to kill a franchise.
@@CaptainPilipinas why are you writing like that?
You never fight armies that big in games anymore tbh
Ikr now it's just shitty terrorist groups or mercenaries
because grimly, such large scale firepower has become our 'infantry numbers' instead....
@@CaptainPilipinas In ArmA 3 you can have large scale battles
@@panzerrjcb or let alone battlefield-like Gameplay structures.
@@panzerrjcb hrm. then guerrilla didn't really give a flip in expanding more back in their previous IP's potential then.
which was kind of a shame.
not to mention mostly that the KZ franchise was natively console-only. nothing on something like arma's.
That one game where the enemy is really the good guy /////JESUS CHRIST THIS WAS 2 YEARS AGO IVE MOVED ON ABOUT THE STUPID GAME
Hows that?
@@diegoquiroz2398 well didnt the isa invade helgan there for the helgast would only be protecting the home from outside forces
So what you mean is that the allied forces in ww2 were the bad guys when they invaded germany?
@@ShadowZRJPT no that a totaly different situation heres a question for you for what reasion did the isa have for ivading helgan
@@ShadowZRJPT nazi germany has no connection to helghan
0:31
*_Uniform violations. I shit you not._*
lol
Radec does not tolerate violations
Dress code is the foundation of discipline
Oh sh..t . He's the guy they were talking about LOL
When I saw this in was totally dazed by my past memories... I mean could ever nostalgia hit harder than this!!
Imagine being the guy that needs to succed Visari
How can you be better than perfection ?
Что такое Visari ?
@@happy1609 Вернее не что а кто
Good. let's keep it that way.
as the last 30+ Years long after that 2nd ES war ended is already much of a permanent damage for that faction. even if it is also unfortunately costing a lot of Unnecessary mortal deaths within UCN space as their old news kind of protests continue to deteriorate close to their Human vektan neighbors' homes.
I hope this series comes back. It was always fun. Especially that landing scene for the ps3.
very powerful stuff
1:29
Orlock: "Six months ago... Our enemies murdered a great man. Scolar Visari. Our nation's father. Today we remember the hope he gave us. The purpose that he gave us. The vision he gave us. A vision in which the Helghast people reclaim their rightful place in this universe. Years from now, we will tell our children of this day. The day his vision became our reality!"
2:00 Are you supposed to shoot that many enemies in the game? Damn, that can take a while.
Haha yeah
Plus they're bullet sponges lmao
6 months
terracide. heh.
My dad's words seeing that army:" AND THE ISA WON????!!!"
Killzone 3 was one of the best one in my opinion.
Who still plays this game in 2020? i love this game
KZ3 online was the best fps I've played
Replayed KZ2 recently. Great game. Gotta do KZ3 also. And yes, the multiplayer in 3 was fucking great.
I love this game but PS3 broke 😭
@@Logan55555 I’m pretty sure you can find a ton of them online for cheap
2021. Me still.
Damn everytime I see that last bit of this with all those Helghast troops it gives me chills
'-it gives me chil-'.
because knowing such, that they are Very Hypocritical even to their own colony members.*
those shots right there. shown.
'Righteously' pumping coming from their pre-emperor leader's mouth, that's the one side of the surface.
But Look at those after at the same time, the side of reality while the Red Dust shockwave sweeps in on those scenes metaphorically revealing the truth and all of what has been exactly happening down on helghan.
and Scolar Knows that anyways. being aware, and yet they continue.
*the very same ones that those highly, and strongly-supportive helghan military dudes above off the majority of the population alongside Scolar claimed that they would make their faction 'great'.
you know the helghast were vindicated.
:) maybe they are victims of the earth?
@@happy1609 they were never ('tamely'), and now (2350s+ -2390s+) as usually never were anyways.
Legend of the Galactic Heroes called, they want their imperial empire back
NOSTALGIAAAAAA
Man bring on Killzone 4.
That's killzone shadow fall unfortunately it sucks its worse than the ISA.
@@Quinnaka nah KZ ShadowFall had good ideas but Sony was really pushing Guerrilla to meet the launch of PS4. They only had two years to develop it. They should have made ShadowFall an infiltration game like Far Cry. The Helghast, The Patriot showed us what ShadowFall could have been. They should take it back and make KZ4 or do ShadowFall 2 and get it correct.
Did.. did stahl dab?
where ?
That's the helghan salute
Helghan pioneered the dab
2:00 Me In Stellaris be like
Helghan would make a fantastic addition to warhammer40k.
So *this* is where Macbeth from that animated Shakespeare show in '92 went.
BIGGEST ARMY EVER
Long live Helghan are you guys a true Helghan
@@forthewinfightover2188 yes thats the reason i liked your comment
@@oscarlindqvist7976 yes same here long live helghan
@@Shape07-0 long live Helghan, Vekta will be ours
When an entire planet is your military, then yes that's alot of bad guys.
Why did radec kill that soldier ?
he was an isa ambassador. They dont want him reporting to isa command of any helghast movement
@@Throughtheireyes91 ah ok thanks
He's a Witness.
Visary blew up his own capital but wanted to put the blame on the ISA so that the people (what was left of it) wouldn't surrender.
That plan kinda goes out the window when you have a lot of witnesess to counter your bullshit.
@@nielsmichiels1939 oh well
Probably a uniform violation. XD
The most chilling part of this one is the way Visari's daughter reacts to her father's touch. Nasty implications.
My type of daughter
I always thought it was cause the our POV was a Visari decoy and not her father himself. Unfortunately I was wrong
Stupid guerilla
You make one of the awesomest villains in video game’s history and you don’t allow us to play as them and we even destroy their planet with only ~100 soldiers
I remember feeling a bit weird playing as the "Good Guys" and hearing the enemy soldiers scream stuff like "THIS IS OUR FUCKING PLANET!!" at me...they did kind of have a point...
@@grimsoncrow Yes, and Germans definitely felt like they were defending Germany from invaders when the combined armies of the Allies to the West, and the Soviets to the East made it to them. If you're facing a totalitarian regime, it's virtually guaranteed they won't surrender unless you completely defeat them (i.e. conquering their country in turn, and deposing, arresting, executing the lunatic responsible), especially if they started the war in question (which the Helghast did under Visari's rule). I'm sure a more than a few knew that, but hey, they're STILL defending their home from people they can logically expect to be very, very angry and possess a desire to exact vengeance since their attack had not only been unprovoked and by surprise, but they were brutal and ruthless during their own invasion of Vekta, slaughtering civilians. Their propaganda also looks to be especially effective, so many of them may believe they were totally justified doing what they did on Vekta, and are incensed that you'd dare step foot on sacred Helghan soil.
At the same time, it is natural to feel that way. You ARE invading another world, ripping it up while trying to get to the people who are behind the madness and refuse to stop the fighting on the chance they may win, and manage to go back to YOUR home and try to conquer it again. Removing Visari AND his key supporters/figures in his regime and installing a garrison to oversee the process of de-Visarification of their society would be the only way to end the war, and hopefully reduce the immediate and long-term likelihood of another one. Problem was that a large number of prominent Visari-officials and commanders (like Dahl and Orlock) remained at large, so even when the cue-balled space-nazi Brian Cox was dead, they still had leaders willing to keep the meat grinder madness going, not to mention the false-flag nuke on their capital...plus their astounding capacity to pull yet another vast legion of seemingly well-equipped, well-trained, firmly indoctrinated, professional soldiers in the Second Army out of their asses for those assholes to set loose on the rest of humanity. The Helghast had absolutely mind-numbing reserves of resources, man-power, and warships, even for a heavily militarized society (they've only been building this new order for a decade or so, which can still produce frightening levels of ), but I think that fleet/army combined force of the Second Army should probably have been the last large concentration of their good-quality troops since they'd lost both the First and Third in a period of less than 12 months. Since population and industrial capacity figures aren't fun gameplay (understandably), we don't know their true capacity to form and equip new armies and warships, we could say they'd still need a fair amount of time, logistics and leadership which they wouldn't have without guys and gals like Dahl and Orlock.
You literally have to hunt down and arrest or execute all members of totalitarian regimes after you beat their nations into submission, because if you don't, you have the potential for a partial or complete resurgence of the regime that just tried to conquer and enslave you. Self-preservation dictates that if you have beaten an enemy that has every intention of coming back to try again later, don't give them the chance.
You weren't the Nazis, and as understandable as their rampages may have been, you weren't an enraged soldier of the Red Army either. You were a !SpaceAmerica guy who had to fight off one invasion, and go launch your own to try and remove the source of the poison on Helghan that wouldn't go away if you ignored it. Now, the Allies weren't saints, but they were also less steeped in hatred for the Nazis, as the USSR had to bear the brunt of their aggression and crimes against humanity, they were exactly what that Helghast trooper thought you could be. An angry, hateful, vengeful and vindictive enemy ready for the chance to even the score. The job wasn't entirely clean, but you didn't have any other choice, and you avoided (and assuming the great bulk of ISA personnel also did) reprisals, and you needed to stop that mad bastard Visari and his court of lieutenants and opportunistic ministers from coming back again.
I'm sorry I wrote you a small essay, but I love talking about this stuff.
@@KeeperofthePeace This giant wall of text kind of discounts that inconvenient fact that the ISA stole Vekta from Helghast in the first place, which is the entire reason they were on Helghan to begin with, lmao. You objectively play the villains in Killzone. The true Vektans wouldn't have gone all spring time for Hitler if their home wasn't jacked from them. Much like in real life, the ISA covers up their thuggery by putting on the veneer of being some goodie two-shoes democracy in their home territory while thugging out when elsewhere where they can't be held accountable.
@@KeeperofthePeace too long don't care, HELGAN LAND BELONGS TO THE HELGAST!
@bLackstar actually not jealousy it was a tariff and tax thing see the helghast lived in alpha centauri system and they offered the UCN too buy it out right giving the ability too tax and colonize freely for helgans UCN usually would refuse but did the deal overtime they became concerned and upset over the helghasts strive too power and put stricter laws on them not lettin them tax as much and not being able too have a huge home fleet of course helghan Co. Said F that and the UCN launched a full scale invasion on the helgan solar system that is how the first extrasolar war began too bad we never got a game on it
God i wish my ps3 still worked
You can now emulate it on PC at 4K
Damn this Killzone is like allies vs axis
'[personality switch]
* "no~ 'Really?'....
What gave it away?" *' - GA Human EXODUS fleet colony ship AI.
also, by the sound of your choice of words from Hours back, this is your first time with this KZ franchise right?
Lore, even Gameplay-only, etc. that kind.
One Empire, One People, One Autarch!
More like Axis vs. Allies looking Axis
Man I miss this game
Loved the brutal execution and the fun multiplayer gameplay from the third. Miss this series a lot. After they milked that redhead girl (LOL), maybe they could bring it back, at least a remake of the first trilogie.
if you are talking about that seyka Random (none to the offense, but true) not too long ago this Year....
then I Agree.
both for suggesting some reforming possibility of the KZ franchise's and for that current storytelling's Sorry state choice of those developers' after they Try to go naughty dog-like on that DLC.
[EDIT-01]: yes. a remaster.
[EDIT-02]: ah. for a Second there I thought you only meant during in the events of KZ01 (especially that game. boy! do I not like its Very old Gameplay experience).
Imagine Killzone collab with Helldivers 2? Now Duper Earth is up agaknst literal Space Nazi's lol
new title idea: World War 3 - Cinematic Intro
playstation 5💖
killzone 3⤴
The Helghast Nothing did worng
whatever makes you two (for example) Smile Without-conscience Thought then. 'sure'. [Boredly Shrugs at more of these helghanite-Fans' Ravings]
Just remember that Visarys had Pyrrhus evacuated of all civilians at the beginning of KZ2 and the city had already fallen under ISA control what he did nicking the city was just what Khutuzov did back in 1812 by burning Moscow down so that Napoleon couldn’t occupy it for long
STOP AT 0:13 AND LOOK AT THE GENERAL ON THE LEFT
Thanks for the link. Thought I'd have to go on a exhaustive search.
Seems sus
My general i needed hear your voice one last time
they sould make a remake of killzone seriously
Best game ever idc we need this game back
This brought. me to climax
What he say in that moment ? Please 1:34
"Scholar Visari, our nation's father. Today we remember the hope he gave us. The purpose he gave us. The vision he gave us."
@@Carbide195
thank you
because in the captains says (galava sorry)
Can't understand because my English is borken 😅
@@asab_edit1695
Yeah, he pronounces it very strangely, and RUclips's captions struggle to get words right at the best of times.
Brian Cox talking?
Yes
Always wondered why Radec shot the helghast soldier
NO WITNESSES.
My honest reaction when someone says the Horizon series is better than Killzone: 0:30 - 0:34
Engineer gaming LOL
depends.
for one, Unfortunately None of the previous IP's games of guerrilla's were open worldly (Sadly.
especially on places all over UCN/ISA space, like the planetary Vektan capital?....
would have been nice, etc).
Lore-wise.... I think I would prefer the KZ franchise's of them.
Gameplay-wise: horizon games -(minus that first VR attempt of theirs not too long ago this Year still)- usually. though I sometimes miss the Gameplay interactive experience of the KZ games.
A Little High Is Still Too High To Drive
Incredible game, played all multiple times
This cutscenes all right I love the kill 1 cut scene though I’ve played Killzone 1 2 and 3 and I’m only 10
Killzone 1 cutscene
Nobody Is talking about the Baby Helghast💀
didnt know jordan peterson was in this
Stahl?
Idk that first white haired guy you see
@babbjoseph1 He does kinda look like him.
here's how to take it, an excellent story, with an atmosphere
unique and epic is to transform it over the years, into one
bleak copy paste of a normal shooter
for two money ..... pity
One last thing for the managers ... dickheads, it cost you too much
keep a server alive in order to play 2 or 3
it cost you too much those 5 dollars a month .........
Yooo the Force Awakens Ripped this scene 😅🤦🏿♂️
THIS IS ISA PROPAGANDA
What he said in that moment ? Please from 1:34 until 1:36
@@asab_edit1695 scokar visari. Our nations father
All these years...it is true believe this My brothers and sisters.
BEOWULF!!!
Man I really wanted to play on there side. Instead of the other side.
Pls bring out on ps5
How did this intro manage to look WAY less detailed compared to the first game lol
The first two weren't as lighted as this one - darkness hides a lot in animation
metal -01 says that faction that has 6+ losses against most of the UCN-Humanity. still failing, yes. -
When you tell your crush that you're a Twitch mod: 0:15 - 0:18
Good game
For some reason this looks like Vaktovia
Kinda get tired of not looking as good as the "bad guys". Like can we not be fashionable as well?
what. the ISA military? (especially those at the AC-A System branch's. with the all bright blues and light greys, bits of orange and all of that).
0:33 min Radek is still alive in Killzone 3 ?!
Killzone 2 flashback my friend, this whole cutscene is a flashback
@@quarol732 ohhhhhh
1:30
™ Wen WLUNA?
Holy shit
How many months?
We will not go quietly into the night! We will not vanish without a fight! today we celebrate Helghast Day!
Killzone 1 intro WW2 German like
Killzone 3..WW2 Russian like? 🤣
0:28 Why they killed that guy?
Probably to hide the fact the helgast high command detonated the atomic bomb in the capital city. Get rid of any witnesses so you can blame the enemy
@@arkantos-arkantos6092dependably Obviously, Unfortunately.
and it is grimly funny that this isn't the first time that those helghan colonists kept doing such methods like that....
uniform violation
NO WITNESSES.
Somehow, he is true?
0:38 why did thr soldier got killed?
To hide the fact the ISA nuke that is hitting their city is being fired by Visari.
how do i skip this opening
But why?
Press the X button.
Who has a better intro killzone 1,2, or 3
2
yes. KZ02's, it seems. next to KZ01's being second, at least for me....
because such scenes, even if they are Short (and guerrilla is just like another bungie-like Squat! even to this Day) only, shows some of the feats (eh, not really too much back with those helghans' showing) of both two major Space Human factions' (within UCN Space) naval capabilities in a visual showing in those first times for example.
Killzone 2.
Nah-zees...
Zip file!!!
@@Ru_Imperialist file extracted successfully
Bro put this in German 1:34
🌞🌞🌞🌞🌞
My game **
Not as good as 2, but still fine.
HELGHAN FOREVER!!!
100+ and more Years and '5+ Major losses' later.
....
Face Facts.
Literally the nazies the whole thing, how they rose after ww1
Well i mean yeah but the helghast used to be a company then turned into a empire thingy
Except they have no relations to Nazis in any way other than inspired aesthetic and similar Military hierachy
@@The_GK1 Не думаю.
@@happy1609 no helghans are actually decent people hope google translates it well enough but The ISA and UCN started the war with helghan when they bought out a solay system and didnt like the taxes or tariffs for buying it they didnt want someone being more powerful then them so they waged war lool up first extra solar war and you'll see helghast arent the starters of this war isa and helghan are not good eitber both commited serious atrocities
Helgan is like natzies
Not even close
This reminds me of Helghans (Isreal) attack peaceful planet Vekta (Palestine) and nuke their own city Pyrrhus (Samson Directive) to obliterate ISA (Iran) ground forces. Scholar Visari is similar to Benjamin Netanyahu
You're delusional.
I always loved how the games couldn't hammer more the fact that the Helgasts are the bad guys, not only in their design but their actions and historic parallels as well as the way their fascist government operates (for example, allowing Radec to execute soldiers for effin uniform violations)it's pretty clear that Visari was a dictator who didn't care for his people and did nothing to give the helgast better living conditions and merely used the hate against the Vektans to solidify his power , had he conquered Vekta the Helgast's life would still be hell.
The Hellgasts are not the Good guys, they were merely given a tragic backstory to give them a little depth since they are so incredibly, cartoonishly evil.
Nor were they some kind of great military lmao, they had the Vektans outnumbered and outgunned at every single opportunity and they keep losing to the lamest good guys in existance who are part of a military with improvised vehicles and weapons.
They never had the ISA outgunned the ISA fleet was infinitely more advanced and absolutely curb stomped the helghast fleet.
Fuckin shiet game. Good intro but holy fuck was it tedious
I think I found canada new leader