I really enjoyed this episode. It was really interesting comparing the digital to analogue. The results speak for themselves. I use both digital and analogue, just dependent on how much time I have. I have turned off the screen on my M10 so I treat it like an analogue camera. I use the Leica M-P and really enjoy using it also. I like the pace of this episode. We all need to slow down and enjoy photography and life.
Keep doing what you’re doing and you guys are gonna have a loyal following in less than a year. Love your content and looking forward to the next episode 🙌🏽
Great comparison and composition! I guess that all sensor manufacturers are dreaming of being the first to develop a sensor that can truly match film in dynamic range and colors rendition. Personally the best trick that i've found to mimic film is to put an polarizing filter on my lens.
Spot on! Thanks for this comparison. I share the same sentiment about film. Spent way too much time capturing the perfect moment when I shot digital, that in turn, I always really missed the "real" moment...being the experience. Been debating lately to try out an M10-R, but I think I would lose what initially made me want to go back to full analog in the first place.
Film over digital everyday in my opinion, we don't know how the film was processed or scanned in order to really know. I own both cameras as well and was intrigued to watch this comparison from someone else's perspective, but I feel there is information missing from the comparison.
hey man! great video, i really enjoyed watching your process of conceptualizing a theme, thinking out loud really brings us into your frame of mind for photos it's great well done. nice cadence too in the editing. keep it up!
I grew up with film, went digital in 2001working as a pro, but kept all my film cameras and now I’m back with film for my personal photography. What goes around comes around I guess.
Another great video. (I like the second car shot, more close-up, and of course the M6 version). Personally I think the photos themselves, it's a wash, the M6 had more color but the M10 images could easily be tweaked in LR to match. But you nailed it regarding the tangibility of the M6 (or any film camera in general), and the anticipation while you wait for the film to come back from the lab. Right now I'm trying to get back into shooting, but the cost of color, the PITA of the scanning workflow, et al pushed me to end up getting a cheap(ish) fuji x-e2 and adapters for some of my old lenses, and I'm doing things like forcing myself to shoot at one film simulation for a "roll", and also experimenting with square crop (again, sticking with it for a "roll"). Taping up the screen is next. Yes it's faking it, but as you said whatever gets you shooting and I'm going to stick with it for a while to see where it leads (which may well be back to my M6, lol). Keep the videos coming!!
You could have set the WB on the M10 to 6500K, or even 7200K, to come a little closer to the warm Portra. And maybe you should have underexposed with 1/3 stop, so you had preserved the highlights. Digital cameras are not good with blown highlights.
@@ramseykiefer i did, the guys at essential made a good deal with me. i ended up trading in a bunch of gear for the M7 and 35 Summicron that were there, did some more trading and ended up with a black paint a la carte MP and Summicron. I loved the blad but for some reason didn't mesh super well with it.
I would love to know if you matched the white balance to the film on the m10 or if you had it do auto white balance. The m10 shots felt so plain and dead in comparison, also too much contrast sometimes.
Perhaps using the same lens on both cameras could rectify the bias implied in the rendering of colour. The Nokton is what they call a "poor man's (like me) Summilux. Don't get me wrong, but my understanding of the Leica experience encapsulate the handling and the final result. Using an M6 with a Nokton and comparing it to a Summilux is, one could claim, inadequate. Nice shots tho.
Feel the same way. Recently could afford any digital M and couldn’t get excited - I’m not a pro, it’s not for my living I just love my M6. So why change. You summed it up nicely with this vid and yeah the dig looked flat, Portia needs no effort when scanned properly. Digital is some how more work, more options and less fun. But if you love digital have at it. Seen a tonne of amazing shots on it. Just can’t be bothered.
You can always buy like a 1GB SD card I think you can get at least 36 raw images But tbh film looks nicer because its already graded. You can always tweak and touch raw photos the way you like the colors and create a “film” look of its own. Idk id go with the digital M10 and just colorgrade it in post.
That M6 is popping off!! Let’s collab Ramsey. Big fan all the way from Richmond, VA. Have some great spots in mind to shoot when you come out. Plz dm me! Longtime admirer.
If you have the cash and can find one you should shoot the m10D. It has no screen. Great camera. I’ve owned it for 3 years. Just recently sold it for an M11.
@@256k_ the dynamic range, battery, and megapixel. Not sure if it was worth it though. The m10D was something special. I am happy with the m11 so far. There is just a special place for the m10D
@@ruben619448 i only e ver touched/used a M10 yesterday and it completely changed my opinion on digital cameras to be honest. I love my M6 but i'm now definitely considering a M10 companion for it.
@@256k_ I’ve wanted an m6 for a long time but it just seems so expensive. The film is getting very pricey and the prices to develop are high too. Spending close to $50 to buy something in color and develop and scan it is a lot. I try to use film emulators when I process to get a similar film feel.
@@ruben619448 you are a more reasonable man than I, sir. I agree 100% with you on this but there is something magical about film that makes me love it more. plus there's nothing more in photography that i hate than post processing/editing photos. so the idea of having to manually go and modify an image to make it look like something else to me is not really my style. but i truly respect people that can accept this reality rather than live in the past like i do :D maybe if i sell my M6 for a M10 i would change my mind. but i JUST bought my M6 after 20 years of using a Nikon FM. call me old fashioned i guess :D
Sounds like you might dig the M-D (typ 262)? No screen, definitively analogue-like experience. Can't shoot them like modern digitals- the ISO just won't perform. Plus the M240/M262 era cameras had a touch of the M8/M9 era color science. The M10 is so cold in tone by comparison, imo. You'll still have to drag the white point down to bring back those skies, of course. Portra obliterated the M10, though. No surprises there. On the M240, I find that just dragging the tint away from Magenta a bit, and the white balance a touch warmer really starts to approximate the old film warmth. No comparison to the real thing but at least a further step away from typical digital trappings.
I’ve shot a lot of different cameras and sold all of them and stretched the budget to buy an m10 about a year ago. I wanted to move back to digital to save the cost of film. I hate the m10 and barely shoot photos anymore. Sure, it “feels” analog. But I just throw it in auto modes and can spam the shutter. I’ll probably keep it but I just got my first job as an airline pilot and the first purchase I’m making if a new M6 and a 35 f2.0. I can’t wait. M10 will sit on the shelf at home.
Good luck when you pay a fortune for the film, then pay to get it developed and scanned to a digital image doh (or scan yourself and best hope there's no dust).
I really enjoyed this episode. It was really interesting comparing the digital to analogue. The results speak for themselves. I use both digital and analogue, just dependent on how much time I have. I have turned off the screen on my M10 so I treat it like an analogue camera. I use the Leica M-P and really enjoy using it also. I like the pace of this episode. We all need to slow down and enjoy photography and life.
Keep doing what you’re doing and you guys are gonna have a loyal following in less than a year. Love your content and looking forward to the next episode 🙌🏽
🤘🏼thank you Sara!!
I couldnt agree with you more. The film does it for me. Even in those photos the film had that looked and that warmth to them. Great video!
Great comparison and composition! I guess that all sensor manufacturers are dreaming of being the first to develop a sensor that can truly match film in dynamic range and colors rendition. Personally the best trick that i've found to mimic film is to put an polarizing filter on my lens.
Spot on! Thanks for this comparison. I share the same sentiment about film. Spent way too much time capturing the perfect moment when I shot digital, that in turn, I always really missed the "real" moment...being the experience. Been debating lately to try out an M10-R, but I think I would lose what initially made me want to go back to full analog in the first place.
Portra smokes the M10 just no comparison. Was the Portra shot at box speed? Great video!
Film over digital everyday in my opinion, we don't know how the film was processed or scanned in order to really know. I own both cameras as well and was intrigued to watch this comparison from someone else's perspective, but I feel there is information missing from the comparison.
hey man! great video, i really enjoyed watching your process of conceptualizing a theme, thinking out loud really brings us into your frame of mind for photos it's great well done. nice cadence too in the editing. keep it up!
Thanks dude! Stoked you’re liking them!
I grew up with film, went digital in 2001working as a pro, but kept all my film cameras and now I’m back with film for my personal photography. What goes around comes around I guess.
Can’t beat that portra look 😉
Another great video. (I like the second car shot, more close-up, and of course the M6 version). Personally I think the photos themselves, it's a wash, the M6 had more color but the M10 images could easily be tweaked in LR to match. But you nailed it regarding the tangibility of the M6 (or any film camera in general), and the anticipation while you wait for the film to come back from the lab. Right now I'm trying to get back into shooting, but the cost of color, the PITA of the scanning workflow, et al pushed me to end up getting a cheap(ish) fuji x-e2 and adapters for some of my old lenses, and I'm doing things like forcing myself to shoot at one film simulation for a "roll", and also experimenting with square crop (again, sticking with it for a "roll"). Taping up the screen is next. Yes it's faking it, but as you said whatever gets you shooting and I'm going to stick with it for a while to see where it leads (which may well be back to my M6, lol). Keep the videos coming!!
You could have set the WB on the M10 to 6500K, or even 7200K, to come a little closer to the warm Portra. And maybe you should have underexposed with 1/3 stop, so you had preserved the highlights. Digital cameras are not good with blown highlights.
Love this.
nice video - äh… sorry… BOLD video 🤪. Please keep up the good work👌
Fantastic comparison. was there any retouching on either the film or digital?
I thought i recognized the name, you almost bought my hasselblad 500c/m from essential last year. Fancy running into you here lol
Fancy that! Did you get your 500cm sold?
@@ramseykiefer i did, the guys at essential made a good deal with me. i ended up trading in a bunch of gear for the M7 and 35 Summicron that were there, did some more trading and ended up with a black paint a la carte MP and Summicron. I loved the blad but for some reason didn't mesh super well with it.
I would love to know if you matched the white balance to the film on the m10 or if you had it do auto white balance. The m10 shots felt so plain and dead in comparison, also too much contrast sometimes.
Perhaps using the same lens on both cameras could rectify the bias implied in the rendering of colour. The Nokton is what they call a "poor man's (like me) Summilux. Don't get me wrong, but my understanding of the Leica experience encapsulate the handling and the final result. Using an M6 with a Nokton and comparing it to a Summilux is, one could claim, inadequate. Nice shots tho.
Porta has such a nice color!
Cool! Very moody and interesting 👍
Feel the same way. Recently could afford any digital M and couldn’t get excited - I’m not a pro, it’s not for my living I just love my M6. So why change. You summed it up nicely with this vid and yeah the dig looked flat, Portia needs no effort when scanned properly. Digital is some how more work, more options and less fun. But if you love digital have at it. Seen a tonne of amazing shots on it. Just can’t be bothered.
Agreed!!
So now you understand you have to develop your raw files, right?
I’m feeling that heat now. This was more about the different shooting experience you have with analog vs digital. But I’ll get it next time!
@@ramseykiefer Looking forward to it, sorry for being so feisty. 🙂
Shooting on M10 too. Also left-eye dominant
Sending M10 to leica for upgrade to M10-P
You can always buy like a 1GB SD card
I think you can get at least 36 raw images
But tbh film looks nicer because its already graded. You can always tweak and touch raw photos the way you like the colors and create a “film” look of its own.
Idk id go with the digital M10 and just colorgrade it in post.
Whatever gets ya out shooting! 😉
with a touch in post I can make them indistinguishable.
But wouldn’t you rather have the real thing 😛
That M6 is popping off!! Let’s collab Ramsey. Big fan all the way from Richmond, VA. Have some great spots in mind to shoot when you come out. Plz dm me! Longtime admirer.
Booking the flight now 😎✈️
If you have the cash and can find one you should shoot the m10D. It has no screen. Great camera. I’ve owned it for 3 years. Just recently sold it for an M11.
just curious, why did you go for M11 over M10?
@@256k_ the dynamic range, battery, and megapixel. Not sure if it was worth it though. The m10D was something special. I am happy with the m11 so far. There is just a special place for the m10D
@@ruben619448 i only e ver touched/used a M10 yesterday and it completely changed my opinion on digital cameras to be honest. I love my M6 but i'm now definitely considering a M10 companion for it.
@@256k_ I’ve wanted an m6 for a long time but it just seems so expensive. The film is getting very pricey and the prices to develop are high too. Spending close to $50 to buy something in color and develop and scan it is a lot. I try to use film emulators when I process to get a similar film feel.
@@ruben619448 you are a more reasonable man than I, sir. I agree 100% with you on this but there is something magical about film that makes me love it more. plus there's nothing more in photography that i hate than post processing/editing photos. so the idea of having to manually go and modify an image to make it look like something else to me is not really my style. but i truly respect people that can accept this reality rather than live in the past like i do :D
maybe if i sell my M6 for a M10 i would change my mind. but i JUST bought my M6 after 20 years of using a Nikon FM. call me old fashioned i guess :D
I like his GQCA beanie
Sounds like you might dig the M-D (typ 262)? No screen, definitively analogue-like experience. Can't shoot them like modern digitals- the ISO just won't perform. Plus the M240/M262 era cameras had a touch of the M8/M9 era color science. The M10 is so cold in tone by comparison, imo. You'll still have to drag the white point down to bring back those skies, of course.
Portra obliterated the M10, though. No surprises there. On the M240, I find that just dragging the tint away from Magenta a bit, and the white balance a touch warmer really starts to approximate the old film warmth. No comparison to the real thing but at least a further step away from typical digital trappings.
Swell lil series
M6 all day. WOW
You just can't beat the M6 and Portra.
A match made in heaven
👍
Only thing I got out of this is that Salt Lake Utah is super boring...
Haha this comment had me busting up 😂
I’ve shot a lot of different cameras and sold all of them and stretched the budget to buy an m10 about a year ago. I wanted to move back to digital to save the cost of film. I hate the m10 and barely shoot photos anymore. Sure, it “feels” analog. But I just throw it in auto modes and can spam the shutter. I’ll probably keep it but I just got my first job as an airline pilot and the first purchase I’m making if a new M6 and a 35 f2.0. I can’t wait. M10 will sit on the shelf at home.
Film has a better overall retention of highlights. The digital was blowing out the skies and clouds😢. Nothing like good film.
Very true!
Film any day vs. digital.
The question is!: silver chrome or black Leica M?? 😅
Rhetorical question..
Really doesn’t matter.
Easy. Black.
Dang… M10 looks so flat/dull in comparison.
Good luck when you pay a fortune for the film, then pay to get it developed and scanned to a digital image doh (or scan yourself and best hope there's no dust).
The M10 files are not edited but the Portra 400 are lol pure laziness
Great feedback, mate!
M6 shots look so much nicer. But it is porntra.
A lot of clutter.