Leica M6 vs Leica M10

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  • Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
  • Sunday Stroll Episode Seven
    Sunday Strolls is a little photo series where we walk around our neighborhood and take photos with whatever film camera and whatever film stock we’re feel that Sunday. The only goal in mind is having a good time, and if the photos turn out, it’s an added bonus.
    #leicam6 #leicam10 #leica #film #portra400 #35mmfilm
    Instagramies:
    Ramsey: / captainkiefer
    Eli’s: / eliasjfalk
    Film Camera’s used in this Episode: Leica M6 and Leica M10
    FIlm used in this episode: Portra 400 & DNG Files
    Digital Camera Set up used in this Episode: Sony FX3 - 16-35 mm lens & RODE Wireless GO
    Film Scanned with a Sony a9-90mm & Converted with Negative Lab Pro - Lightroom
    Music Provided by Musicbed
    Songs listed by orders of appearance
    - Brisk by Ezzy
    - I’m Lost by Sarah Kang
    Filmed in Salt Lake City UT
    Thank you so much for watching!

Комментарии • 64

  • @jebeq2007
    @jebeq2007 2 года назад +24

    Portra smokes the M10 just no comparison. Was the Portra shot at box speed? Great video!

    • @ebreevephoto
      @ebreevephoto 8 месяцев назад

      Film over digital everyday in my opinion, we don't know how the film was processed or scanned in order to really know. I own both cameras as well and was intrigued to watch this comparison from someone else's perspective, but I feel there is information missing from the comparison.

  • @Wizaris84
    @Wizaris84 2 года назад +3

    Great comparison and composition! I guess that all sensor manufacturers are dreaming of being the first to develop a sensor that can truly match film in dynamic range and colors rendition. Personally the best trick that i've found to mimic film is to put an polarizing filter on my lens.

  • @simonbarnes7124
    @simonbarnes7124 2 года назад +4

    I grew up with film, went digital in 2001working as a pro, but kept all my film cameras and now I’m back with film for my personal photography. What goes around comes around I guess.

  • @saraalvarez2173
    @saraalvarez2173 2 года назад +3

    Keep doing what you’re doing and you guys are gonna have a loyal following in less than a year. Love your content and looking forward to the next episode 🙌🏽

  • @TEDSFILMM
    @TEDSFILMM 2 года назад +2

    Some very bold exposures. Top notch Sunday stroll 👍

  • @shereemaebalangue1296
    @shereemaebalangue1296 Год назад +1

    I couldnt agree with you more. The film does it for me. Even in those photos the film had that looked and that warmth to them. Great video!

  • @JeeterFeeder
    @JeeterFeeder Год назад +1

    Spot on! Thanks for this comparison. I share the same sentiment about film. Spent way too much time capturing the perfect moment when I shot digital, that in turn, I always really missed the "real" moment...being the experience. Been debating lately to try out an M10-R, but I think I would lose what initially made me want to go back to full analog in the first place.

  • @jhj_dk
    @jhj_dk Год назад +5

    You could have set the WB on the M10 to 6500K, or even 7200K, to come a little closer to the warm Portra. And maybe you should have underexposed with 1/3 stop, so you had preserved the highlights. Digital cameras are not good with blown highlights.

  • @davedonnelly8039
    @davedonnelly8039 2 года назад +4

    Can’t beat that portra look 😉

  • @256k_
    @256k_ 2 года назад +1

    hey man! great video, i really enjoyed watching your process of conceptualizing a theme, thinking out loud really brings us into your frame of mind for photos it's great well done. nice cadence too in the editing. keep it up!

    • @ramseykiefer
      @ramseykiefer  2 года назад

      Thanks dude! Stoked you’re liking them!

  • @KRE808
    @KRE808 2 года назад +1

    Another great video. (I like the second car shot, more close-up, and of course the M6 version). Personally I think the photos themselves, it's a wash, the M6 had more color but the M10 images could easily be tweaked in LR to match. But you nailed it regarding the tangibility of the M6 (or any film camera in general), and the anticipation while you wait for the film to come back from the lab. Right now I'm trying to get back into shooting, but the cost of color, the PITA of the scanning workflow, et al pushed me to end up getting a cheap(ish) fuji x-e2 and adapters for some of my old lenses, and I'm doing things like forcing myself to shoot at one film simulation for a "roll", and also experimenting with square crop (again, sticking with it for a "roll"). Taping up the screen is next. Yes it's faking it, but as you said whatever gets you shooting and I'm going to stick with it for a while to see where it leads (which may well be back to my M6, lol). Keep the videos coming!!

  • @andreaxyz3959
    @andreaxyz3959 2 года назад +2

    Perhaps using the same lens on both cameras could rectify the bias implied in the rendering of colour. The Nokton is what they call a "poor man's (like me) Summilux. Don't get me wrong, but my understanding of the Leica experience encapsulate the handling and the final result. Using an M6 with a Nokton and comparing it to a Summilux is, one could claim, inadequate. Nice shots tho.

  • @rossawilson01
    @rossawilson01 Год назад +1

    Feel the same way. Recently could afford any digital M and couldn’t get excited - I’m not a pro, it’s not for my living I just love my M6. So why change. You summed it up nicely with this vid and yeah the dig looked flat, Portia needs no effort when scanned properly. Digital is some how more work, more options and less fun. But if you love digital have at it. Seen a tonne of amazing shots on it. Just can’t be bothered.

  • @Officialhaircareking
    @Officialhaircareking 2 года назад +1

    Porta has such a nice color!

  • @Lemon_Coco
    @Lemon_Coco Год назад +1

    You can always buy like a 1GB SD card
    I think you can get at least 36 raw images
    But tbh film looks nicer because its already graded. You can always tweak and touch raw photos the way you like the colors and create a “film” look of its own.
    Idk id go with the digital M10 and just colorgrade it in post.

    • @ramseykiefer
      @ramseykiefer  Год назад +1

      Whatever gets ya out shooting! 😉

  • @jens-olebrockhoff6523
    @jens-olebrockhoff6523 2 года назад +1

    nice video - äh… sorry… BOLD video 🤪. Please keep up the good work👌

  • @SourPlanet
    @SourPlanet 2 месяца назад

    Sounds like you might dig the M-D (typ 262)? No screen, definitively analogue-like experience. Can't shoot them like modern digitals- the ISO just won't perform. Plus the M240/M262 era cameras had a touch of the M8/M9 era color science. The M10 is so cold in tone by comparison, imo. You'll still have to drag the white point down to bring back those skies, of course.
    Portra obliterated the M10, though. No surprises there. On the M240, I find that just dragging the tint away from Magenta a bit, and the white balance a touch warmer really starts to approximate the old film warmth. No comparison to the real thing but at least a further step away from typical digital trappings.

  • @ionluv
    @ionluv 4 месяца назад

    Fantastic comparison. was there any retouching on either the film or digital?

  • @Almeromusiek
    @Almeromusiek 2 года назад +1

    Love this.

  • @JimmyCheng
    @JimmyCheng Год назад +2

    with a touch in post I can make them indistinguishable.

    • @ramseykiefer
      @ramseykiefer  Год назад +2

      But wouldn’t you rather have the real thing 😛

  • @fraaank
    @fraaank 2 года назад +3

    So now you understand you have to develop your raw files, right?

    • @ramseykiefer
      @ramseykiefer  2 года назад

      I’m feeling that heat now. This was more about the different shooting experience you have with analog vs digital. But I’ll get it next time!

    • @fraaank
      @fraaank 2 года назад

      @@ramseykiefer Looking forward to it, sorry for being so feisty. 🙂

  • @ionluv
    @ionluv 4 месяца назад

    I would love to know if you matched the white balance to the film on the m10 or if you had it do auto white balance. The m10 shots felt so plain and dead in comparison, also too much contrast sometimes.

  • @grafishing7921
    @grafishing7921 2 года назад

    Cool! Very moody and interesting 👍

  • @directedbydon
    @directedbydon 2 года назад +1

    I like his GQCA beanie

  • @AdminLogistics.
    @AdminLogistics. 5 месяцев назад

    M6 all day. WOW

  • @ruben619448
    @ruben619448 2 года назад +1

    If you have the cash and can find one you should shoot the m10D. It has no screen. Great camera. I’ve owned it for 3 years. Just recently sold it for an M11.

    • @256k_
      @256k_ 2 года назад

      just curious, why did you go for M11 over M10?

    • @ruben619448
      @ruben619448 2 года назад

      @@256k_ the dynamic range, battery, and megapixel. Not sure if it was worth it though. The m10D was something special. I am happy with the m11 so far. There is just a special place for the m10D

    • @256k_
      @256k_ 2 года назад

      @@ruben619448 i only e ver touched/used a M10 yesterday and it completely changed my opinion on digital cameras to be honest. I love my M6 but i'm now definitely considering a M10 companion for it.

    • @ruben619448
      @ruben619448 2 года назад

      @@256k_ I’ve wanted an m6 for a long time but it just seems so expensive. The film is getting very pricey and the prices to develop are high too. Spending close to $50 to buy something in color and develop and scan it is a lot. I try to use film emulators when I process to get a similar film feel.

    • @256k_
      @256k_ 2 года назад

      @@ruben619448 you are a more reasonable man than I, sir. I agree 100% with you on this but there is something magical about film that makes me love it more. plus there's nothing more in photography that i hate than post processing/editing photos. so the idea of having to manually go and modify an image to make it look like something else to me is not really my style. but i truly respect people that can accept this reality rather than live in the past like i do :D
      maybe if i sell my M6 for a M10 i would change my mind. but i JUST bought my M6 after 20 years of using a Nikon FM. call me old fashioned i guess :D

  • @AcmeCamera
    @AcmeCamera 2 года назад

    I thought i recognized the name, you almost bought my hasselblad 500c/m from essential last year. Fancy running into you here lol

    • @ramseykiefer
      @ramseykiefer  2 года назад +1

      Fancy that! Did you get your 500cm sold?

    • @AcmeCamera
      @AcmeCamera 2 года назад

      @@ramseykiefer i did, the guys at essential made a good deal with me. i ended up trading in a bunch of gear for the M7 and 35 Summicron that were there, did some more trading and ended up with a black paint a la carte MP and Summicron. I loved the blad but for some reason didn't mesh super well with it.

  • @spencermoncur9217
    @spencermoncur9217 2 года назад +1

    That M6 is popping off!! Let’s collab Ramsey. Big fan all the way from Richmond, VA. Have some great spots in mind to shoot when you come out. Plz dm me! Longtime admirer.

    • @ramseykiefer
      @ramseykiefer  2 года назад

      Booking the flight now 😎✈️

  • @erichung9043
    @erichung9043 2 года назад +1

    You just can't beat the M6 and Portra.

  • @AlexCCarter
    @AlexCCarter 2 года назад

    Swell lil series

  • @user-kk2uf4ko3q
    @user-kk2uf4ko3q 2 года назад

    👍

  • @SpencerReidBuchanan
    @SpencerReidBuchanan Год назад

    I’ve shot a lot of different cameras and sold all of them and stretched the budget to buy an m10 about a year ago. I wanted to move back to digital to save the cost of film. I hate the m10 and barely shoot photos anymore. Sure, it “feels” analog. But I just throw it in auto modes and can spam the shutter. I’ll probably keep it but I just got my first job as an airline pilot and the first purchase I’m making if a new M6 and a 35 f2.0. I can’t wait. M10 will sit on the shelf at home.

  • @vangstr
    @vangstr Год назад +1

    Film has a better overall retention of highlights. The digital was blowing out the skies and clouds😢. Nothing like good film.

  • @MIZRAIM1906
    @MIZRAIM1906 Год назад +1

    Only thing I got out of this is that Salt Lake Utah is super boring...

    • @ramseykiefer
      @ramseykiefer  Год назад

      Haha this comment had me busting up 😂

  • @emmanueltsI5
    @emmanueltsI5 Год назад

    Film any day vs. digital.
    The question is!: silver chrome or black Leica M?? 😅
    Rhetorical question..
    Really doesn’t matter.

  • @seanms35
    @seanms35 Год назад +2

    Dang… M10 looks so flat/dull in comparison.

  • @straydog6166
    @straydog6166 Год назад

    Good luck when you pay a fortune for the film, then pay to get it developed and scanned to a digital image doh (or scan yourself and best hope there's no dust).

  • @zeus4080
    @zeus4080 3 месяца назад

    M6 shots look so much nicer. But it is porntra.

  • @WilsonGomez
    @WilsonGomez 2 года назад +4

    The M10 files are not edited but the Portra 400 are lol pure laziness

    • @eliasjfalk
      @eliasjfalk 2 года назад

      Great feedback, mate!

  • @devroombagchus7460
    @devroombagchus7460 Год назад

    A lot of clutter.