A Typical Fight With An Irish Mother | TOMMY TIERNAN

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  • Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2024

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  • @TommyTiernan
    @TommyTiernan  2 года назад +156

    Have you ever had a fight like this with your mother?

    • @nathancloke8970
      @nathancloke8970 2 года назад +10

      To be sure i have, god rest her mental soul !!! Keep em coming Tommy !!!

    • @billhawkins192
      @billhawkins192 2 года назад +4

      It's good. But you underegged it a wee bit.

    • @leewinnard9932
      @leewinnard9932 2 года назад +6

      yeah, I called my ma a di*ck and ran up the stairs away from her, I was a good age as well. 24 🤣🤣

    • @happydaze7976
      @happydaze7976 2 года назад +12

      Brilliant Tommy. Every irish mammy at some stage threatens to kill ye.🤣🤣🤣✌

    • @crazygreenlady7907
      @crazygreenlady7907 2 года назад +16

      I am the mother. I completely understand your mums rage, its hormones and oppressive patriarchy getting the better of us. And in response to people posting on here saying this is misogynistic I disagree...I sense you love your mum and are very grateful to her not least for her providing you with fantastic material for your routine.

  • @SolaScriptura-n-cats
    @SolaScriptura-n-cats 2 года назад +229

    “GO ON, DADDY!! DRIVE HER LIKE YOU STOLE HER!!” Omg the best line EVER!!!!!!!!! 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

    • @wendi2819
      @wendi2819 2 года назад +4

      Only our wee Tommy!!!!!💗💗💗💗

  • @peterwilson5528
    @peterwilson5528 2 года назад +106

    I miss my little Irish mum. I am old man now of 64 and mum made it to 96. And she was still fighting right up to the end. A Cork woman, with a build like Popeye. Oh she was small but hard as nails. The problem was her brothers the Creans from Kinsale taught her boxing. They were all sailors and fishermen, and they also taught her to swear like one of them. I saw her once hop about a 2 meter fence and take down a Clonmel neighbour twice her size who told her to "Feck off!" "Yer wot!" she said and that was it. Off she went like a little whirlwind. That neighbour she put on the floor with one punch and sat on top of her bashing the face in. She used to give us a good belt about the head. My dad used to run. Kind of funny seeing an English Protestant man running from a little Irish Catholic woman. Dad certainly could run fast :) But she and dad loved us all. And they loved one another deeply for over 65 years. She was the last of her family to go. One thing I can say is that the Irish have life by its tail and they will hang on to it.

    • @zombywoof7309
      @zombywoof7309 Год назад +8

      Bless your little Irish Mum
      🇮🇪 💚 🇮🇪 💚 🇮🇪

    • @rnw2739
      @rnw2739 Год назад +6

      I'll say bless your English dad as no one else seems to be interested.
      As a proud Englishman, may I say bless your English dad 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

    • @peterwilson5528
      @peterwilson5528 Год назад +2

      @@flipacoin3593 True I can agree with that. well, Waterford is not so far away. The Irish are a tough lot. I must admit I often think about my uncles because they are all gone and I wish I could have known them better. Ireland is always in the back of my mind and my mum put it there. I keep saying I will go visit my family there in Ireland but we always seem to be so poor here it is a kind of dream. One day it might happen :)

    • @peterwilson5528
      @peterwilson5528 Год назад

      Thanks, I guess anything and everything is possible.:) @@flipacoin3593

    • @clairevariandeacon6906
      @clairevariandeacon6906 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@peterwilson5528 🙏🏻 Prayers for some unexpected funds to go home for a wee long visit

  • @vivianscircle
    @vivianscircle 2 года назад +102

    I have been living in Ireland for about five years now. This explains a lot about the people.

  • @patrickjmolloy
    @patrickjmolloy 2 года назад +139

    My ma used to shout, “I’ll fuckin’ crucify ye”, which other people presumed was a figure of speech, not knowing that she had actually already crucified me for real. Not the full “nails hammered through the wrists” version, just the “tied hanging from the staircase by my arms” version. She properly tried to kill me on 3 different occasions.

  • @ophelias4172
    @ophelias4172 2 года назад +73

    If this is an example of an Irish childhood, I think my parents stole your guide book.

  • @chrissiewindsor
    @chrissiewindsor 2 года назад +18

    My friend from Co Tipperary, the youngest of a shitload of kids, he was the youngest & expected to look after Mammy. He got his HGV licence & took a job that kept him away in Europe for 5 days a week, just as soon as he was old enough. He told me he didn’t blame her, his Da had run away to England with Mammy’s sister, leaving her with all these kids! My friend would say they were like a small flock of sheep, following her round, calling, “Ma, Ma!” All at once. I loved my visits to his home town though, everyone I was introduced to said, “Welcome home to Roscrea.” They we’re so generous & kind. I went to a wedding there & there were 7 bridesmaids & 7 groomsmen! A massive sit down dinner for 300, several rooms booked for those who got too pissed to get on the coach home! It was like money was no problem at all. My friend told me that an Irishman started a bank account for his daughter’s wedding the day she was born. I believe it too! It was spectacular!

  • @minanes6549
    @minanes6549 2 года назад +130

    My (Ulster) Mum wasn't like this. But the school bag routine was absolutely real! Sometimes I'd leave it in the 'wrong' place and 30 seconds later it was flung out on the drive with accompanying instructions.

  • @PlatinumRaptor
    @PlatinumRaptor 2 года назад +60

    So delighted your uploading your material Tommy. Get it all up!

  • @Stephanie-lg1cm
    @Stephanie-lg1cm 2 года назад +105

    Oh my god I had this mother 😂🤣😂. I was 1 of 4 children and I remember we talked about how much better it would be if we could all go live at Bernardo’s. (Childrens home). I now know of course that my mother was a slave to her hormones, loving and suffocatingly affectionate one day and the devil incarnate the next ( sometimes the same day).The problem was you never knew what you were getting when you walked through the door.

  • @valerieshepherd6823
    @valerieshepherd6823 2 года назад +70

    And I thought I was the only one who had an irrational phyco for a Mother... the only difference is I had the Scottish version lol xxx

    • @georgejob2156
      @georgejob2156 2 года назад +3

      Same here Valerie, it's on the water , my mother was a candidate for Carstairs mental institution
      .

    • @valerieshepherd6823
      @valerieshepherd6823 2 года назад +6

      @@georgejob2156 lol. If the social services had gotten involved they would have taken us away from her... abusive in every way.

    • @georgejob2156
      @georgejob2156 2 года назад +1

      Aye Valerie, mine was the auld fashioned had be in fae the pictures on the 10.30.pm bus aye good auld days..

    • @MrGroganmeister
      @MrGroganmeister 2 года назад +4

      @@georgejob2156 even worse lad, I’m married to one.

  • @oliviaginsbourg6541
    @oliviaginsbourg6541 2 года назад +49

    Well done you fought your way out of the madness and the loveless childhood.

  • @gayeenglund1907
    @gayeenglund1907 2 года назад +30

    Did anyone else get the "No Father! Stop it! Get off me!!" over and over? A friend told me she ran into her parents room with a broom and told her Dad to leave Mum alone.

    • @catcoffee7958
      @catcoffee7958 2 года назад +1

      🤣😂🤣😂

    • @sh.4409
      @sh.4409 4 месяца назад

      My mate said she heard them, then asked her mum when last time she had sex was!😂

  • @forakermm
    @forakermm 2 года назад +4

    The spring symphony!!! I’m dying!!! 🤣🤣🤣

  • @bl4zze_
    @bl4zze_ 3 месяца назад +1

    He absolutely NAILED the spring symphony XD

  • @nomdeplume2213
    @nomdeplume2213 2 года назад +72

    RUclips finally recommended something good 😆 as an American i never get to hear Irish or Scottish accents and i love them. ❤

    • @SolaScriptura-n-cats
      @SolaScriptura-n-cats 2 года назад +1

      Nom De Plume, do you like Lord of the Rings?

    • @stoverboo
      @stoverboo 2 года назад +2

      Try out This Hour Has 22 Minutes on CBC Gem. Those Newfoundlanders sound like they just arrived on the Titanic.

    • @ivonaivona668
      @ivonaivona668 2 года назад

      Oh, really? So strange

  • @user53575
    @user53575 Год назад +1

    'Don't f*ck with me!' ha ha lol

  • @shannonsherman9113
    @shannonsherman9113 2 года назад +10

    I am also the ma and I come from along line of Irish mothers before me.... We are getting slightly less mental as time goes on, I hope. Hahahahaha . The wee lass Roisin cracks up at the part, "you're dinner! Yee'd be fecking lucky!!"

    • @michrenshaw92
      @michrenshaw92 8 месяцев назад +1

      😂 my ma is less mental than my granny to be fair 🤣

  • @chrissiewindsor
    @chrissiewindsor 2 года назад +8

    This is my first time of seeing him & I was dying laughing, especially the encouraging, “Go on, Daddy, ride her like ya stole her!” He’s like the Irish Billy Connolly! Where can I find more of him?

    • @karenshaw7807
      @karenshaw7807 2 года назад +1

      I've just seen him live at the Just for Laughs festival in Montreal. Many good comedians, but he was the funniest. I've seen him quite a few times over the years.

  • @SolaScriptura-n-cats
    @SolaScriptura-n-cats 2 года назад +12

    THIS is BY FAR my FAVORITE stand-up of his!!! Love ya so much, Tommy!!! 🤣

  • @annacvetanova1967
    @annacvetanova1967 2 года назад +6

    This really makes me look at myself and my reactions from a different perspective. I love it

  • @sandrathulambo508
    @sandrathulambo508 2 года назад +7

    The spring symphony 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @deeryker
    @deeryker 2 года назад +28

    The ould spring symphony

    • @sleepwalker8600
      @sleepwalker8600 2 года назад +4

      The reason headphones were invented lol

    • @oisinlynch8427
      @oisinlynch8427 2 года назад +1

      @@sleepwalker8600 no wonder Picasso cut off his ears

    • @sleepwalker8600
      @sleepwalker8600 2 года назад

      @@oisinlynch8427 Hahaha very good

  • @SolaScriptura-n-cats
    @SolaScriptura-n-cats 2 года назад +23

    I’d love to share this with me own Mother, but I can’t for all the cursing! 🤣

    • @BobCollinsSTEPcoach
      @BobCollinsSTEPcoach 2 года назад +2

      Well, mine was Irish and she coulda beat him. Literally!

  • @rosierennie5867
    @rosierennie5867 2 года назад +3

    Imagine if they gave Gerry these fantastic lines in Derry Girls. He'd have been UNSTOPPABLE 😂😂🤣🤣

  • @bridypow1947
    @bridypow1947 2 месяца назад +2

    THIS is my corner---lmao

  • @hypatia4754
    @hypatia4754 2 года назад +10

    And this is why people become comedians to be able to deal with the crap.

  • @Hamstergirl71
    @Hamstergirl71 2 года назад +26

    Some of you didn’t grow up in a screwed up household and it shows. People use humor to cope with this stuff. If it’s not your thing, move on…

  • @debbiehanisch2099
    @debbiehanisch2099 2 года назад +12

    We saw him at Just for Laughs comedy in Montreal quite a few years back. He's hilarious.

  • @cfmpam498230
    @cfmpam498230 2 года назад +28

    In America you dont want to sit by the window due to random bullets being fired !!!

    • @nomdeplume2213
      @nomdeplume2213 2 года назад +3

      Omfg... no... just no lol 99.99999% of schools here have never had a gun inside them that wasn't on a cops hip

    • @BobCollinsSTEPcoach
      @BobCollinsSTEPcoach 2 года назад

      Not in most of the nation. Usually, it’s just the Blue States you’re describing. Those of us in the Red States (mostly the South) only shoot at deer, squirrels, and the rare home invader.

    • @cfmpam498230
      @cfmpam498230 2 года назад

      @@BobCollinsSTEPcoach lmao , actually FBI statistics show that Red States have far more shootings & random shootings then Blue states do !
      I get that you get your info solely from the Rightwing media but it would serve you well to spread your net a lot wider and get I fo from outlets from non rightwing outlets & overseas !!! IE: the top 20 cities in the US are all in red states!!!! Places like NYC, Chicago & LA Dont show up in the rankings till mid to late 20s & 30s !!!
      The FBI contribe this to lacks firearms laws in red states and the fact that more people are living in poverty in red states then in blues where those states actually give social services & workers rights a higher priority!!!
      By the way I'm a life long Eisenhower Republican so I'm not spinning it to make my party look bad !!! Their just wrong on their governance and economic policies !!!

  • @robertsnellgrove2664
    @robertsnellgrove2664 Год назад +2

    This guy is so funny your laughing so much it hurts. 😂👏

  • @themysteriousdomainmoviepalace
    @themysteriousdomainmoviepalace 2 года назад +6

    I was always in trouble for staring out the window. I'm part Irish and this is all too true. It where dark humor comes from.

  • @justdefacts
    @justdefacts 2 года назад +6

    Tiernan is never going to get an invite to perform on the Dry Comedy Club circuit. 🤣

  • @jadefire2817
    @jadefire2817 2 года назад +11

    *Drive 'er like you stole 'er!!* 🤣🤣

  • @kimberlypatton9634
    @kimberlypatton9634 2 года назад +41

    My mother to a "T"!! A screamer and she could reduce you to a quivering spot of jelly on the floor in 10 seconds of her interrogating! She once had my father come to take me out of my 5th grade class at mid day because she wanted to know why I had gotten into her bag of fabric scraps while they were on vacation ...And the worst was elwhen she gave you a spanking ( with dads leather belt or a "bolo" paddle) she became a madwoman who was so worked up she just wouldn't stop! My dad would have to enter in and grab her arm to make her quit and tell her "that's enough!" I only got one spanking from her and that's all it took for me to become a child that blended into the walls!

  • @alfredpiper5715
    @alfredpiper5715 2 года назад +5

    I’m not sure wether to laugh or cry at this

  • @globalwarmingisreal2366
    @globalwarmingisreal2366 2 года назад +22

    How lucky was I? My mother was an angel!

  • @fabolvaskarika7940
    @fabolvaskarika7940 2 года назад +69

    Politically not correct but as real life happens, it’s absolutely spot on.

    • @SH-fz9dy
      @SH-fz9dy 2 года назад +2

      Only SJW's are PC.

    • @hannahcracknell6483
      @hannahcracknell6483 2 года назад +9

      Having an Irish mother can attest to the accuracy 😂

    • @ruthanna4713
      @ruthanna4713 2 года назад +5

      And what does that say about politics.

    • @TheYopogo
      @TheYopogo 2 года назад +10

      Why is there always someone complaining about political correctness?

    • @fabolvaskarika7940
      @fabolvaskarika7940 2 года назад +1

      @@TheYopogo I didn’t complain. I stated. Learn the meaning of the words!

  • @julieatkinson5910
    @julieatkinson5910 2 года назад +2

    Love his humour and delivery

  • @cindygrayson1288
    @cindygrayson1288 2 года назад +1

    Love it! Thank you!

  • @dmacisaac9382
    @dmacisaac9382 2 года назад +5

    Achhhh Jaysus ! Stuff of nightmares right there..... My mother was just like this 🤯🙄🤣

  • @angiemottershead1394
    @angiemottershead1394 2 года назад

    Thankyou so much. Not laffed like that for so long. 🤣🤣🤣😘😘

  • @georgejob2156
    @georgejob2156 2 года назад +6

    Guess Irish and Scottish mother's have a lot in common. Mental ! Mine was !

    • @cityhawk
      @cityhawk 10 месяцев назад

      I haven't met a normal Irish woman yet. Likely never will. My mother, my aunts, my sister. Not a single ounce of normal in any of them. There's a reason why I don't date Irish women.

  • @michrenshaw92
    @michrenshaw92 8 месяцев назад

    Even now, my Irish mum, a couple of weeks ago we went down to Cornwall for her and my da’s wedding anniversary, I’d forgotten my charger, I said “ma please can I borrow your charger” she goes “I’ll feckin charge you in a minute!!!!!” 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @deeppurple883
    @deeppurple883 Год назад

    Tommy is of the people. Finger on the pulse because we love Tommy he's our brother in arm's. 👊😂😂😂☘️

  • @frankmaxwell5193
    @frankmaxwell5193 Год назад +2

    He really didn't get on with his mother, stopped talking, he admitted this in an interview.

  • @bridypow1947
    @bridypow1947 6 месяцев назад

    🎉 3:58 and there goes roto rotor and a chopper😂 4:16 😂😂😂😂

  • @Available_Pie9316
    @Available_Pie9316 2 года назад +14

    While this is utterly hilarious for the material, as someone who has only seen Tommy rather staid on Derry Girls, listening to him swear like a sailor is oddly refreshing

    • @stoverboo
      @stoverboo 2 года назад +2

      He's my favourite character on that show. This is a whole new look at him.

    • @shannonsherman9113
      @shannonsherman9113 2 года назад

      @@stoverboo Are you English?

  • @kaleahcollins4567
    @kaleahcollins4567 2 года назад +3

    Loved him in derry girls

  • @nomdeplume2213
    @nomdeplume2213 2 года назад +7

    Hes a lie!! Everyone knows its more like "squeeek, squeek, squ squ squeeeeeeeek" done 🤣🤣🤣

  • @amyexner
    @amyexner 2 года назад +18

    That’s funny…lucky I never had parents like that.

    • @davidpiccolo823
      @davidpiccolo823 Год назад

      Oh stop-this isn’t a therapy session. I’m an American who has an Irish mother so much like this but I never doubted for a second she didn’t have a heart of gold.

  • @theresalayton9286
    @theresalayton9286 2 года назад +2

    OMFG...... East Coast Canada right there by..... That's that's just how it is in East Coast Canada, bloody hell

    • @stoverboo
      @stoverboo 2 года назад +1

      Right out of Gander, eh.

  • @dementedopossum8148
    @dementedopossum8148 Год назад +1

    I showed this to my son who is doing his LC year 😂

  • @kevbutler81
    @kevbutler81 Год назад

    Well he didn't lick off the floor lol

  • @micheleturley8758
    @micheleturley8758 2 года назад +11

    Amazing 😻

  • @berniekennedy9793
    @berniekennedy9793 5 месяцев назад

    I am this Mother🤣🤣🤣😩

  • @bridypow1947
    @bridypow1947 6 месяцев назад

    0:46 im watching this daily 0:55 😂😂😂

  • @peekeyeseek
    @peekeyeseek 2 года назад +3

    Waiting for the flatline.

  • @chrissiewindsor
    @chrissiewindsor 2 года назад +1

    I love this guy!

  • @mikekelly1469
    @mikekelly1469 2 года назад +8

    🤣🤣🤣

  • @lisamcmullan6484
    @lisamcmullan6484 Год назад

    He's all grown up now!

  • @ds2985
    @ds2985 Год назад +2

    FfsThe amount of snowflakes in the comments is worrying. It's a fuckin comedy show. Thx for the laughs tommy my mother was the same I'm 38 now and when I bring my kids down to see her she still gives out to me. My kids find it hilarious. Shes so nice to them tho lol. I wouldn't change her for the world.

  • @limeykl
    @limeykl 2 года назад

    Omg!! Almost peed myself 😂😂😂

  • @AliciaMarkoe
    @AliciaMarkoe 2 года назад

    Thank you 🦋

  • @rabbitrabbit1243
    @rabbitrabbit1243 Год назад

    So thats where i get it from 😂😅

  • @robinr5669
    @robinr5669 2 года назад +4

    He is So Irish looking!

  • @mollieward3895
    @mollieward3895 2 года назад +3

    Never have I laughed as bad and me with a mirgraine .this is my son to me tells me he put me in a mental home .only I would drive people mental .oh Tommy u have give my mirgraine a mirgraine with laughing brilliant x

  • @bridypow1947
    @bridypow1947 6 месяцев назад +1

    Im so pissed🎉 0:15

  • @trudyseeker3550
    @trudyseeker3550 2 года назад +2

    Very funny sounds familiar in N.Z xxxx

  • @evaj5937
    @evaj5937 2 года назад +2

    Drive 'er like you stole 'er. Classic and great advice. Lol

    • @oisinlynch8427
      @oisinlynch8427 2 года назад

      Any thing for a good night sleep😂

  • @francinegranville5346
    @francinegranville5346 2 года назад +3

    She sounds like my Spanish mother😂🤣

  • @betholeary6815
    @betholeary6815 2 года назад +5

    😆

  • @JohnSmith-e7j
    @JohnSmith-e7j 2 месяца назад +1

    So funny

  • @zin153
    @zin153 2 года назад +1

    And to think this is supposed to be amusing!

  • @melmatthews5876
    @melmatthews5876 2 года назад +14

    I think Tommy Tiernan is a soooo attractive! I also think he's a genius!

    • @lynnpayne9519
      @lynnpayne9519 2 года назад +5

      Who knew Tommy had another account!?

    • @oisinlynch8427
      @oisinlynch8427 2 года назад

      @@lynnpayne9519 are you the other account?

    • @N17-o2r
      @N17-o2r Год назад

      @@oisinlynch8427are you the other account ?

  • @michaelmcshane7540
    @michaelmcshane7540 Год назад

    He's not far wrong lol class

  • @siddhantbhosale5909
    @siddhantbhosale5909 2 года назад

    wtf, gerry🤣🤣

  • @relocatetoEUROPE
    @relocatetoEUROPE 2 года назад +6

    Love it

  • @alonzomosley7
    @alonzomosley7 2 года назад +6

    As Conan said about the Irish prone to depression and has freckles.Talk about matriarchal society

  • @bridypow1947
    @bridypow1947 6 месяцев назад

    4:49 chopper2😂 4:52

  • @huggiver1221
    @huggiver1221 2 года назад

    Fair play ,sure didn't he last long, grand so 😀

  • @gingerd9860
    @gingerd9860 2 года назад +1

    Very funny😂🤣😂🤣😂

  • @KhalidRoche
    @KhalidRoche 2 года назад

    seriously funny guy!

  • @barrettpickett5603
    @barrettpickett5603 11 месяцев назад

    Ha, ha officer I don't know him.

  • @bridypow1947
    @bridypow1947 2 года назад +1

    My poor boys

  • @juliefrith1219
    @juliefrith1219 2 года назад +2

    So it seems with had the same mother!

  • @esme6381
    @esme6381 Год назад

    😂

  • @plagueparodies6555
    @plagueparodies6555 2 года назад +3

    Funny: Tommy Tiernan; Funnier: Listening to Tommy Tiernan when doing something mundane; Funniest: trying to lift weights and not die laughing in the gym when Tiernan lets his impression of his mother loose

  • @patriciacarvallo4566
    @patriciacarvallo4566 2 года назад +1

    🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @offwiththefairiesforever2373
    @offwiththefairiesforever2373 2 года назад

    Fitzgeralds here xx

  • @dave_goldcrest
    @dave_goldcrest 3 месяца назад

    I can relate to mam and dad arguing. Thankfully I never had to hear them shagging as they got divorced when I was 5 but I remember having to hear an argument between them and it was just her shouting at him and him hardly being able to get a word in edge-wise. I started crying and she brought me in to him and said, Look what you've done! Manipulative woman.

  • @Naturallproductions1
    @Naturallproductions1 2 года назад

    Hahahahahahahahhahahaa

  • @theresalayton9286
    @theresalayton9286 2 года назад +3

    Did you know, Miramichi is the home of the world's largest Irish festival and the home of the largest cultural festival in Canada!!!!
    Mi grandad was an immigrant from Ireland and he married a native lass

    • @4ofSeven
      @4ofSeven 2 года назад +1

      Mine too. From Saint John

  • @judithw471
    @judithw471 2 года назад

    What kind of a backdrop is that on the stage?

  • @heathermama1410
    @heathermama1410 2 года назад +1

    I just thought my parents were practice wrestling 🤷🏻‍♀️

  • @doloresaquines1529
    @doloresaquines1529 6 месяцев назад

    A handsome man Tommy. And very intelligent.

  • @colleenspowart9416
    @colleenspowart9416 2 года назад

    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @jacquelineithell307
    @jacquelineithell307 2 года назад +1

    How enjoyable to see comedy none Woke absolutely brilliant are you going to ever do liverpool l will be first at door

  • @MsAlien911
    @MsAlien911 Год назад

    Oh ghod, i think im the kiwi version of tommys mammy. My 17 yr old son is doing my feckin brains in... Wont lift a finger unless i ask nicely for an hour then fly into a rage

  • @celtjade
    @celtjade 2 года назад +1

    Sounds like my great gran and granda.