jacobs wasnt effective his last year and his body language suggested he didnt want to be here. He was a leader that got tired of losing like every leader before him under Mark Davis.
Bro the tanking is already happening. A lot of major starters are hurt or gone and we have 2 backup QBs as starters. The tank happened when we went into the season with backups lol
@@TheBlackHole2024 There seems to be a lot of guys with vague soft-tissue injuries, like "ohhh my back kinda hurts, I can't play." Not just Adams. That can make people think dudes are making business decisions, waiting for their chance to get the hell out because they know the team just kinda sucks overall.
@@DogSlobberGardens-i7f I agree 💯 and I don't care what anyone says. You can see the frustration and the way Maxx is talking he is ready to get the he'll out. Players want money but they wanna win.. This shyt been going on for 20+ years.
@@ts87777 Mack and Crosby are direct comparables. Gruden was in a rebuilding phase when he traded Mack during his prime. We're witnessing a similar situation with Pierce and Crosby in another rebuilding phase. It started with Jacobs, followed by Adams, and now there’s the possibility of trading Crosby. To say that this isn't an option would be unreasonable.
DA trade didnt hurt because you can see the diva in him. Losing Maxx is like losing Mack, one of our own that love this team. That trade is gonna hurt when it happens
Yall are more obsessed with guys lookin like Raiders versus just winning and Maxx is the best example of it. He spoke up and advocated for the stuff thats happening with the Raiders. The Raiders bent over backwards to keep Maxx happy and every single thing they did for him backfired on them and didnt work. Thats also on Maxx, not just the Raiders.
@@georgealvarez1195 I absolutely agree, Maxx wanted AP to get hired and now he has to stick it out. In my opinion , if we only win 2-3 more games, hopefully we fire AP and then go get Ben Johnson. Pair Ben Johnson with a top 5 pick for QB he can develop.
We finally have a gm that understands draft picks. Telesco didn’t reach and drafted a star te and starting guard . We have good young talent. We won’t win a Super Bowl but every year we just need keep improving if we can improve by 1 or 2 wins compared to last year .
thats been the hope for 20 years and here we are in the same spot. They still failed to have a decent OL and that is the biggest problem of all. I will give credit for Telescos draft, but he's gonna need to repeat that for at least 5 years to turn this shitshow around.
He Freaking SUCKS !!!! I’m sick of rebuilding year after year! He has set AP up to fail and be a one and done Coach and didn’t give him Nothing to use ! No Coach could have Won with Telesco as GM that refuses to bring in anyone who could improve our team with a boatload of money under the cap and no QB ! TELESCO SUCKS !!!
Wait, we can do that??? Screw it, maybe I'll move to Michigan and be a Lions fan. Legal weed and a football team that's not run by complete morons sounds pretty good. 🤣
He’s under contract. As a fan im getting tired of this narrative and THE MEDIA keeps pushing it. Im done with hearing every good player we have always in trade rumors.
What do you expect? This organization has had a great amount of talented players come through and squander them. It's not farfetched to think of certain guys being considered for a trade.
all the Raiders have to do is win games and the rumors go away. Hard to be mad when the same thing just keeps happing over and over again. Mack, Carr, Adams, Ngakoue all traded and the team continues to lose. How do you build anything when the GM spot is a revolving door? They have had 4 different GMs since 2018. and lets be honest 3 sucked and telesco is yet to be determined.
Max is partially responsible for this dumpster fire we are in with AP. He was sulking and pouting if AP wasn’t retained as HC. No way I would trade him. He deserves to suffer with the rest of us for his part in this.
@alexthegod2 1st Harbaugh wasn't an option. Secondly AP wanted to start AOC and DA wanted AOC to start. Telesco and Mark overruled AP and started Minshew. AP has no power. It you want to blame someone blame Telesco or Mark
@@Raidervibes it didn't matter who your QB was, the team was set up to failure with Getsy and a terrible OL. If they had a decent OC and a solid OL this would be a winning team with either QB. Neither QB is capable of overcoming the bad situation they are in.
Man! Y’all need to think logical, We are grown men, we are not lil kids anymore settling in front of the T.V. Watching this team thinking how cool they are, “ the shield “ those players then are no longer! These aren’t men playing what where watching now! It’s not real, so be real! Maxx is wack! He gonna do what’s best for him! $$$$ and attention is all this is about! WWF in all things we see in all sports!! Entertainment that’s it! Plus Greg Townsend even said he wasn’t feeling maxx attitude when Greg approached him and was giving him some advice to help him be a better player and maxx blew him off as he didn’t want to hear it and that he had it all figured out! Stop believing these clowns who say there raiders and want to stay a raider! They don’t care about me or you and all you do is praise these jokers! Raider Nation all day!
All I will say is, if they do this, we better get more than 2 firsts and a player or two..... I don't want to hear "Oh, he was picked in the 4th", or anything about his contract. I know the Lions fans have been yapping all day about this trying to speak it into existence. Whoever wants him, better be willing to pay up.
Maxx is a dog, and I'd rather him not be traded. But if he goes to the Lions, it needs to be for 1st rounders and they also need to add QB Hendon Hooker to that too. Hooker would give the Raiders immediate young talent at QB and allow them to use multiple other picks to address O-line, DE, and other positions without having to sacrifice a 1st rounder for a QB. 🤷🏾
@@PYSTOLWHIP-The-Insane-Raider yeah, I'd take Hooker and a first for Maxx in a heartbeat. We need a really talented QB who's *not* getting paid big bucks yet, so we can build a decent O-line around him.
@@DogSlobberGardens-i7fwhat??? He’s worth double to triple that. We’d be on the losing side of the trade for a first and an unproven mid QB. We’d need 2-3 first round picks or 2 first rounders plus one first round equivalent player or batch of picks.
Your BEST TAKE I’ve ever heard was about us not tanking. That was a great speech and I 100% agree we shouldn’t tank. We play how we play. And if we need to move up we move up in the draft via our picks.
We suck for 20 seasons……we’ve tried that method….lets try finding out a way of getting rid of mark davis…..that way we don’t have to keep coming up with solutions we’ve tried over the past 35 seasons😊
Devante's skillset is not dependent on speed or athletic ability. His gift is precise route-running, and he is the best in the NFL. It doesn't diminish with age.
Look at the timeline…we get a qb that takes a year or two along with talent to elevate team to compete. Raiders can get a haul of picks for Telesco and new coach or offensive coordinator
In defense of Davante, the Raiders pulled a bait and switch. He came to the Raiders to play with his good friend Derek Carr - who btw owns almost all of the team's passing records. And then we replace him with trash by comparison. It's not fair to say Davante quit on the Raiders. I hope Brady can provide some direction...
Once they traded Khalil Mack, I knew that they didn't want to win... and that they would trade anyone. I was the first one to warn that they would trade Madd Maxx. What he's saying is that the Raiders don't wanna win, so he wants out. He's right.
Yes we absolutely want Maxx here in Detroit. Two 1st and a third round pick is what we’ll offer. We get Maxx and we’re in the SuperBowl this year and next
Anything is possible, I would rather keep Maxx if we can. But who knows how we end up finishing the season and how the draft will turn out. For upcoming draft we will be looking to draft a QB, and all options would have to be considered. Though if we keep playing at this level, we will end up with a very high pick.
Listen I DO NOT want to trade Crosby but look at what the Commanders did a year or 2 ago. They had a fire sale midway through the season trading Sweat & Young right before the trade deadline. Now look at them
It's showbiz. Not a war. Pro football is just another TV reality show, and the players coaches and owners all get rich, win or lose. Never forget that.
I agree with the harm that tanking would cause. This team is already way too familiar with losing and for far too long. If we have to send multiple picks to get the QB we want then so be it, better that than giving up on our current players and giving them yet another reason to want out. Great point Sanjit
Maxx is NOT getting traded. People are taking it out of context. Also, we don’t need to tank on purpose. Unfortunately that’s what’s happening anyway. Getsy needs to GETZ the hell out. He’s not a Raider and this isn’t Pop Warner.
Raiders don't tank. Koonce was the most important piece to our defense last year. We been killed by injuries this year. That Chiefs game on Christmas would of been an L if not for Koonce, and that 63 we dropped on the Chargers would of looked more like 30 point game without Koonce.
All I know is, if they Trade Maxx and get multiple 1’s ( don’t think they would get that much). I think they definitely will fire pierce. That way anyone that comes in next will have all the picks and a fresh slate to draft who they want and build how they want it
Screw adams he screwed tje raiders very bad we lose 1st round a d 2nd draft picks for this fuu , and goes back to Aaron Rodgers we should of gotten good draft picks bruu wtf😢😮
I agree with what you said, but a couple years down the line, if things don't get better I could see him asking to be traded to a team with Super Bowl possibilities.
Totally with you on the not tank take. With Adams gone, we now have a ton of cap space. We aren't good as you said. We fight hard, win a few games, keep it close with KC even if we get beat twice and if we have to give away draft capital to move up a few spots to get a Sanders or Ward type guy, it won't take a ton of capital to get it done. We have to keep Tom Teleco though. Bowers- homerun. Powers-Johnson- homerun. Glaze-so far so good. Wilkins-homerun. Herbert-homerun. If Tom Teleco and Tom Brady both like a certain QB coming out next draft, be aggressive, get him, and let's roll. I'm excited to see what Teleco will do in FA with all this space IF we can be a fairly attractive place to play and that I believe, requires a few more wins and a lot of fight the rest of this season.
Don't sleep on a Crosby trade. Falcons are definitely in win now mode and they are last or near last in sacks. They could send penix and next year's #1 for Crosby. Give the raiders a half year to evaluate penix, and 2 first rounders to either get a qb and a pass rusher, or in the event penix is the franchise qb, we can fortify the o-line and get a pass rusher. Don't sleep on this
I agree with this video 💯%!! Even if the Raiders win 3 or 4 more games we'll still be in position to get a top 5 QB. I've been arguing with casuals the last few days.
Thanks for the video , Sanjit. Personally, I don’t believe Adams and think his word is no good. All this time when he played for his he kept saying “ I’m not leaving” and then look at what happened: three weeks in he wants out. At the end of the day, Davante Adams is a diva who wanted 10 targets per game or he won’t be happy..end of story.
@@alexthegod2 yea forsure, I can understand that part. But all offseason he kept saying he didn’t want out .. and then three weeks in he wants out ..smh. I would have respected him more if he would have asked for a trade in the offseason
in 2022, the Raiders had an insanely talented roster with Derek Caar, Josh Jacobs, Davante Adams, Darren Waller, Maxx Crosby. Without Crosby, the team is gonna officially be in full rebuild mode.
Tanking is not a bad strategy especially if you don’t have a top upcoming QB or top QB on the team. It’s more than just about the 1st pick in the first round. It’s also creates more options and leverage for each team tanking as they are in the driver sit to select the top prospects of each round.
Yall RUclips content creators are something else. It don't have anything to do with davante Adams being traded. Has everything to do with the words that came out of Max Crosby's mouth. I don't blame him neither. Who would want to waste a lifetime chance two play in the NFL With a team that's trash.
Do u think if we take the 5th qb or whatever we have the coaches to develop that player. No it's not guaranteed that a top 2 pick won't be amazing but, it's also not guaranteed we fire the coaching staff so getting the qb w the most upside makes more sense than thinking Getsy will develop him.
I have always been a Raiders fan since 1967. We have not have a good team in years. I have to admit I have liked what the Lions have done lately & they have been my NFC team to win. IF Crosby is traded to the Lions I would be thrilled. My 1st thought regarding the Raiders....FIRE GETSY. This team needs alot of changes
Max is literally the only raider I care to have have a jersey for.. he is the definition of a raider and the leader and face of the franchise. We need to get him a real QB
It’s really hard to say I mean, we’ve been mediocre for so long. Hope we find a diamond in the rough. Maybe I don’t know if we go with Sanjits theory . It’s tuff .
Been a Raider Since LA 👆✌. 2003, that was our last time playing in "The Postseason." Wild Kard Game is not a Playoff Game. Through all That, I'm Still a Raider We All Are✊#RN4L💯 To me it's Hard When I hear someone who Doesn't want to be a Raider. Last Season Maxx was Talking about Loyalty about sticking with it. "NOW" he says This? I let Adams#17 go 2 seasons ago, you could tell he didn't want to be a Raider regardless of "The Money." Now Maxx feels this way. Yes Mark Davis said it's not Happening, but Maxx Don't Want To Be A Raider... "Once a Raider Always A Raider" Al Davis.................. ps: I wish John Gurdon Never Left, we would've had a Postseason GAME, he Was OUR LAST GOOD COACH!!!!!!!! No OTHER COACH AFTER HIM WAS WORTH A DAMN!
Jack del Rio! He went 12-4 .. first playoff since 2002. Should have NEVER been fired for Gruden.. to please fans just like you. See how that turned out? He was 29-36 his 2nd run as the Raiders coach. Why fans are obsessed with this man are the same fans that wanted AP as HC.
We need to build around Maxx..it's time for the organization to give back to the fans. They have been taking from the fans now over 20yrs. No f-ing excuses.
Maxx knew the tank was on at the same moment I did: when Pierce benched Minshew in the third qtr of a winnable game. Since then we've scored one legit TD and 2 garbage time TDs.
Having a solid GM and a players-coach are keys to building a solid team. AP might not be the best coach yet, but players want to play for him. It's year-1 and he's without a true QB1 & OC. #RN4L
I agree with you all the way around on this one. Good communication to make sure everybody understands that the plan is to move forward towards success. Keep the players that are young with the right attitude, ability and work ethic. Maxx Crosby has good relationships, communication, attitude and work ethic to be a leader among these men. Always work to show your desire to win and achieve. Show that there is always hope and teamwork in this building. Invite like minded players, coaches and staff to come in and build new success. Tanking is for chumps.
In 2017 the Chiefs traded up for Mahomes, doing so by traded their pick, a 3d and their 2018 first to go from the 27 pick to the 10, we could trade up without giving up our future
I felt that all that rah rah and support for Pierce was going to backfire and it has . I really was hoping Davis would grab Harbough but that’s water under the bridge now and we are stuck with Pierce .
Do all OC's want to be head coaches? What if we pay a guy like Bobby Slowik HC money? Could this be the ultimate plan considering we don't know all the details to AP's contract?
Wouldn't want to trade Maxx at all but !! Two first round picks ( 1 in 2025 & 1 in 2026 ) a second ( in 2025 ) plus a third ( in 2026 ) then I'm willing to talk about it 💯
Trading Crosby would be a major blow to the team and the organization as a whole. I think that would be a big mistake if the Raiders decides that or even if it's Maxx choice. Watch the fan base fall apart.
Bro shhh had me dead when you said our gm is friendly so players will want to come over and agents 😅bro we are the raiders my guy no players want to play here intel we get a QB! Hopefully we get a new QB This draft good video though my guy as usual 🔥🔥
You have to admit, y'all got incredibly lucky. NOBODY knew Goff was going to turn out to actually be pretty good finally. And nobody knew Campbell was going to turn out so good either. That's OK though, I'd rather be lucky than good sometimes.
What some of us don't understand, we don't actually need to tank on purpose we can just stay the course with the same OC, HC and QB and we'll get a high first round pick use this year to see which players can you keep on the roster to build for the future and who's a goner, you're going to get 100+ million in cap space next year too, stat the course keep Telesco and Pierce for next year, get a real OC and go from there
The loss to the Panthers really killed any momentum the Raiders might have had. If we lose the next two games before the bye week, you have to think that most of the players are checked out.
Basically,, Adam’s said raiders don’t know what real talent looks like, or what to do with it.. I’ve been a fan since the 80’s. And now we have RUclipsrs playing Madden GM telling REAL LIFE PLAYERS when, how, and where to play.. As a Raider fan I wish Max the best
By all means, try to win football games, but also use this season to evaluate young talent and feel free to rest our key pieces when they're hurt instead of pushing them. Need to identify who can be added to this foundation going forward and get a top QB in the draft (and/or trade for Justin Fields if the Steelers go insane)
We have to try to get at least to get a good quarterback, a first round talent quarterback the last time we picked first overall in 2007 we picked Marcus Russell. I mean my God Al Davis set us back years with his bad drafting. We have got to get into the first at least the top five pick or top three pick to get ourselves a quarterback and start rebuilding from there. I don’t care what anybody says tanking is the way to go to get your player right now if we win four or five games meaningless games we’re not going to the playoffs anyway cause we suck and then what’s that gonna bring us to 11th and 12th pick come on guys wake up and smell a coffee please
Texans had a one year rebuild, both the Bears & Commanders are doing so, so the Raiders can do so as well with a rookie QB especially now with Tom looking over this team.
Kiper doesn’t have any of the quarterbacks in this upcoming draft in his top ten currently. There doesn’t appear to be a Stroud-Williams-Daniels in this draft. There’s no guarantee they’ll get a franchise in this draft. Agree with you about tanking. Doesn’t make sense in this situation.
Maxx ain't going anywhere. Media is ridiculous. They asked Tre Tucker like a hundred fifty-eight questions about Adams like the person before then didn't ask the same question. We need to move on
That’s why we lost that on Cliff Kingsbury and had to get Luke Getty. We did not have a quarterback in play and he knew that Washington was going to get that quarterback because they had a better draft pick
They said the same thing with Adams so yes it can still happen because Adams was traded and Al says he doesn't want to do anything with the team management
Outside of QB, this team has good talent and 2-4 doesn't mean we're out of it. IMO trade for Fields and draft a QB with a similiar skill set. Continue to build the defense atound #98 and #94. Chin up Raider nation.
We dont have to tank bro. We just absolutely SUCK
Dumpster fire since 2011. And there's no end in sight.
That's how you know you're close.
@@user-jz5cf9ob5hmore like since 1986
@@user-jz5cf9ob5hsince 2003
Coaches and front office suck they have all the talent in the world on this team even with the injuries.
Loosing jacobs hurt more than loosing adams
Both didn't make a difference in win totals.
jacobs wasnt effective his last year and his body language suggested he didnt want to be here. He was a leader that got tired of losing like every leader before him under Mark Davis.
Fr I really don’t give fuc about tae lmao
@@SmellyVinegaryBallzach jacobs carried us to the playoffs so u cant say that about him..
You 🥷 switch up so fast. Smh bruh the raiders are the common denominator in all these situations. But blame players if tht makes you sleep at night
Bro the tanking is already happening. A lot of major starters are hurt or gone and we have 2 backup QBs as starters. The tank happened when we went into the season with backups lol
Nah they aren't tanking they just stink. It's funny when a team is just shyt and loses fans try to say they're tanking.😂
@@TheBlackHole2024 not getting an actual starter at QB is pretty much tanking in the NFL. Funny when loser fans can’t see that lol
@@TheBlackHole2024 There seems to be a lot of guys with vague soft-tissue injuries, like "ohhh my back kinda hurts, I can't play." Not just Adams. That can make people think dudes are making business decisions, waiting for their chance to get the hell out because they know the team just kinda sucks overall.
@@DogSlobberGardens-i7f I agree 💯 and I don't care what anyone says. You can see the frustration and the way Maxx is talking he is ready to get the he'll out. Players want money but they wanna win.. This shyt been going on for 20+ years.
They went hard the first 2 games and it slowly dawned on them that our offense is trash and will be till they fix the oline
If the Raiders trade Crosby Im literally done man.
Lol. See ya Sunday
@@user-jz5cf9ob5hnah. Some of us are legitimately walking. I'd also be one of them.
If I had a $ every time I said that over the last 4 decades...
I dont blame you, its hard to root for your team when they give you zero hope.
Let’s trade him might as well😂😂😂😂
Any Raider fan saying Maxx Crosby should leave, you're not a true fan! PERIOD!!
Yeah, you don’t get to decide what true fan…..what a pud
Right real raider fans ain't crybabies and would never think we're trading Maxx
Facts
We traded Mack. I don’t know about cry babies but smart fans know that a rebuild means guys like Crosby are victims of ineptitude from the top down.
@@ts87777 Mack and Crosby are direct comparables. Gruden was in a rebuilding phase when he traded Mack during his prime. We're witnessing a similar situation with Pierce and Crosby in another rebuilding phase. It started with Jacobs, followed by Adams, and now there’s the possibility of trading Crosby. To say that this isn't an option would be unreasonable.
DA trade didnt hurt because you can see the diva in him. Losing Maxx is like losing Mack, one of our own that love this team. That trade is gonna hurt when it happens
Absolutely
It ain't happening the mack trade ain't the same as this did yall forget Maxx is still on major contract and just got extension
Yall are more obsessed with guys lookin like Raiders versus just winning and Maxx is the best example of it. He spoke up and advocated for the stuff thats happening with the Raiders. The Raiders bent over backwards to keep Maxx happy and every single thing they did for him backfired on them and didnt work. Thats also on Maxx, not just the Raiders.
@@georgealvarez1195 I absolutely agree, Maxx wanted AP to get hired and now he has to stick it out. In my opinion , if we only win 2-3 more games, hopefully we fire AP and then go get Ben Johnson. Pair Ben Johnson with a top 5 pick for QB he can develop.
All yall have solid points, and I still think you’d all agree that seeing Maxx leave would fucking suck.
We finally have a gm that understands draft picks. Telesco didn’t reach and drafted a star te and starting guard . We have good young talent. We won’t win a Super Bowl but every year we just need keep improving if we can improve by 1 or 2 wins compared to last year .
thats been the hope for 20 years and here we are in the same spot. They still failed to have a decent OL and that is the biggest problem of all. I will give credit for Telescos draft, but he's gonna need to repeat that for at least 5 years to turn this shitshow around.
He Freaking SUCKS !!!! I’m sick of rebuilding year after year! He has set AP up to fail and be a one and done Coach and didn’t give him Nothing to use ! No Coach could have Won with Telesco as GM that refuses to bring in anyone who could improve our team with a boatload of money under the cap and no QB ! TELESCO SUCKS !!!
😂😂😂😂😂 that’s one we haven’t tried in 24 loosing seasons
Raiders fan here. I want to be traded also 😂
Trade Garbage Mark
Best I can do is a pick in the 7th in the NBA Draft, which only has two rounds. I might have a ham sandwich, as well. lol
I'm holding out until they prove they can have a winning season!
Wait, we can do that??? Screw it, maybe I'll move to Michigan and be a Lions fan. Legal weed and a football team that's not run by complete morons sounds pretty good. 🤣
😂😂😂
Maxx told the media if the Raiders don’t hire AP as a head coach he wants to be traded away. Now we hired AP now what???
People took what he said out of context then too. He didn’t say it in those exact words
Never said he wanted to be traded away.
Fire AP. Trade Maxx.
@@ethicalskeptic true, but he never spoke about being on another team, he always spoke about retiring as a Raider, its a massive red flag for sure.
If Crosby guys to another team, it's because of our management trying to get value, not because Crosby wants out.
We don't need to tank. We're bad, we'll get a top draft pick.
After the panthers loss, I said this team was so bad we didn’t need to tank. Top 3 pick and people in these chats came after me so hard 😂
He tired of losing
He was the one that was sulking if AP didn’t get the HC job.
We're all tired.
@@user-jz5cf9ob5h Preach! It's hard to be a Raiders fan!
on point
@@mikedeleon5617sulking? That’s an exaggeration. He had a preferred coach. That aside, The losses aren’t all on AP
Good for Max! We should all wish for him to achieve success and let's be honest that isn't going to be with the Raiders
Holy shit. If Sanjit uploads something about this trade I gotta see it
He’s under contract. As a fan im getting tired of this narrative and THE MEDIA keeps pushing it. Im done with hearing every good player we have always in trade rumors.
Garbage Mark trades ALL our good players. That's why ALWAYS lose
What do you expect? This organization has had a great amount of talented players come through and squander them. It's not farfetched to think of certain guys being considered for a trade.
Contracts don’t matter if they get don’t want to be there 😂😂 teams will get what they can….
I’m on the same boat bro! They try to pressure the organization to trade away our good players. Fuck them they can suck it!!
all the Raiders have to do is win games and the rumors go away. Hard to be mad when the same thing just keeps happing over and over again. Mack, Carr, Adams, Ngakoue all traded and the team continues to lose. How do you build anything when the GM spot is a revolving door? They have had 4 different GMs since 2018. and lets be honest 3 sucked and telesco is yet to be determined.
Never skipping a sanjit video 🙌🏽
Exactly! His breakdowns are legit, and he is honest and not biased
Max is partially responsible for this dumpster fire we are in with AP. He was sulking and pouting if AP wasn’t retained as HC. No way I would trade him. He deserves to suffer with the rest of us for his part in this.
I don’t think we’re trading Maxx but could you blame home with the comments from “fans” that are this negative. He’s a Raider for life.
just another mistake by Davis, he should have gone hard after Harbaugh a proven winner.
@alexthegod2 1st Harbaugh wasn't an option. Secondly AP wanted to start AOC and DA wanted AOC to start. Telesco and Mark overruled AP and started Minshew. AP has no power. It you want to blame someone blame Telesco or Mark
@@Raidervibes you know absolutely none of this to be true. NONE!
@@Raidervibes it didn't matter who your QB was, the team was set up to failure with Getsy and a terrible OL. If they had a decent OC and a solid OL this would be a winning team with either QB. Neither QB is capable of overcoming the bad situation they are in.
Tear the whole thing down gets picks and start building the right way if we could lose with them, we can lose without him
Fool
It boils down to consistency and we haven't had any of that for decades. To much change in the office for any sort of growth with this team.
Yes I agree with what you said. Fire Getsy, trade or cut James move Parham to center, trade Colton Miller, draft a QB,LT, WR, guard and RB, edge
Man! Y’all need to think logical, We are grown men, we are not lil kids anymore settling in front of the T.V. Watching this team thinking how cool they are, “ the shield “ those players then are no longer! These aren’t men playing what where watching now! It’s not real, so be real! Maxx is wack! He gonna do what’s best for him! $$$$ and attention is all this is about! WWF in all things we see in all sports!! Entertainment that’s it!
Plus Greg Townsend even said he wasn’t feeling maxx attitude when Greg approached him and was giving him some advice to help him be a better player and maxx blew him off as he didn’t want to hear it and that he had it all figured out! Stop believing these clowns who say there raiders and want to stay a raider! They don’t care about me or you and all you do is praise these jokers!
Raider Nation all day!
All I will say is, if they do this, we better get more than 2 firsts and a player or two..... I don't want to hear "Oh, he was picked in the 4th", or anything about his contract. I know the Lions fans have been yapping all day about this trying to speak it into existence. Whoever wants him, better be willing to pay up.
Picked 4th rd.
Maxx is a dog, and I'd rather him not be traded. But if he goes to the Lions, it needs to be for 1st rounders and they also need to add QB Hendon Hooker to that too. Hooker would give the Raiders immediate young talent at QB and allow them to use multiple other picks to address O-line, DE, and other positions without having to sacrifice a 1st rounder for a QB. 🤷🏾
@@PYSTOLWHIP-The-Insane-Raider yeah, I'd take Hooker and a first for Maxx in a heartbeat.
We need a really talented QB who's *not* getting paid big bucks yet, so we can build a decent O-line around him.
@@DogSlobberGardens-i7fwhat??? He’s worth double to triple that. We’d be on the losing side of the trade for a first and an unproven mid QB. We’d need 2-3 first round picks or 2 first rounders plus one first round equivalent player or batch of picks.
Your BEST TAKE I’ve ever heard was about us not tanking. That was a great speech and I 100% agree we shouldn’t tank. We play how we play. And if we need to move up we move up in the draft via our picks.
Why waste picks lol 😂 when we need ever pick. We suck
We suck for 20 seasons……we’ve tried that method….lets try finding out a way of getting rid of mark davis…..that way we don’t have to keep coming up with solutions we’ve tried over the past 35 seasons😊
Devante's skillset is not dependent on speed or athletic ability. His gift is precise route-running, and he is the best in the NFL. It doesn't diminish with age.
If they don’t just tank and get a qb with wr1 then some lineman , corners with draft and 108m cap space
Love the content! You make a lot of sense!
He was just speaking his mind openly, and where he’s going to be “in his mind” makes the most sense by far.
The first thing is offensive lineman “ Foundation “
amen
Look at the timeline…we get a qb that takes a year or two along with talent to elevate team to compete. Raiders can get a haul of picks for Telesco and new coach or offensive coordinator
Mean to say Crosby will get older and his prime isn’t lining up with the team’s trajectory. If we got Stroud and Kingsbury it’s a different story
It would take 3 1sts and a 2nd. Otherwise no trade unless it’s for Joe Burrow
Joe burrow🤣😂🤣🤣. That’s who you would settle for 😂🤣😂😂. Herschel walker type deal is on the only option 😂🤣😂
In defense of Davante, the Raiders pulled a bait and switch. He came to the Raiders to play with his good friend Derek Carr - who btw owns almost all of the team's passing records. And then we replace him with trash by comparison. It's not fair to say Davante quit on the Raiders. I hope Brady can provide some direction...
Madd maxx ain't leaving hes a real1
thank you always respected you're prospective on things bruh #RN4L !
Once they traded Khalil Mack, I knew that they didn't want to win... and that they would trade anyone.
I was the first one to warn that they would trade Madd Maxx.
What he's saying is that the Raiders don't wanna win, so he wants out.
He's right.
Them lions fans are drooling right now.. lmao Max will ride with AP.. I think as long as AP is here Max will be, but after that who knows...
Trade him to the Lions. They want him and they lost Hutch. It'll be done for 3 1sts.
@@SmellyVinegaryBallzach
For 3 firsts, I would help him pack.
Yes we absolutely want Maxx here in Detroit. Two 1st and a third round pick is what we’ll offer. We get Maxx and we’re in the SuperBowl this year and next
@@Mark-oy1wv 3 1sts.
Basically high 2nd round picks anyways.
Anything is possible, I would rather keep Maxx if we can. But who knows how we end up finishing the season and how the draft will turn out. For upcoming draft we will be looking to draft a QB, and all options would have to be considered. Though if we keep playing at this level, we will end up with a very high pick.
Loving this Praying Always GO Raiders and Thank you I believe Raiders Nation
Listen I DO NOT want to trade Crosby but look at what the Commanders did a year or 2 ago. They had a fire sale midway through the season trading Sweat & Young right before the trade deadline. Now look at them
What can we get for Max Crosby in picks? Hopefully with the help of Tom Brady we can get Shedeur Sanders as a QB and Coach Bill Belichick.
F Bill B. Give us Ben Johnson.
We can get a hell of a lot for him. Sell high.
If Maxx gets traded Davis knows he will lose the majority of the fans.
Garbage Mark Davis has DESTROYED Raider Nation already
Raiders almost lost my support when they traded Khalil Mack.
@@felixsavella4435Raider fans will still go to the games
Mark was also told that if he didn't hire AP, he would lose the majority of the fans. Now look how good that turned out.
@@DragonLuffy. I remember that. This is why I would start over clean. Trade Crosby and Miller. Let A.P amd Telasco walk.
Mark Davis already said, this is a no go!
Everything is for sale. EVERYTHING.
@@SmellyVinegaryBallzachincluding your nalgas
This your first time being lied to by a billionaire? lol
Never tank. Play the fucking game and try to win. wtf
It's showbiz. Not a war.
Pro football is just another TV reality show, and the players coaches and owners all get rich, win or lose. Never forget that.
We need a QB
I agree with the harm that tanking would cause. This team is already way too familiar with losing and for far too long. If we have to send multiple picks to get the QB we want then so be it, better that than giving up on our current players and giving them yet another reason to want out. Great point Sanjit
Did we not learn from the Khalil Mack situation.
Preach the word man.. it’s like no one remembers
Maxx is NOT getting traded. People are taking it out of context.
Also, we don’t need to tank on purpose. Unfortunately that’s what’s happening anyway. Getsy needs to GETZ the hell out. He’s not a Raider and this isn’t Pop Warner.
Raiders don't tank. Koonce was the most important piece to our defense last year. We been killed by injuries this year. That Chiefs game on Christmas would of been an L if not for Koonce, and that 63 we dropped on the Chargers would of looked more like 30 point game without Koonce.
Tired of hearing DA’ drama! Starting to actually hate his voice
All I know is, if they Trade Maxx and get multiple 1’s ( don’t think they would get that much). I think they definitely will fire pierce. That way anyone that comes in next will have all the picks and a fresh slate to draft who they want and build how they want it
Screw adams he screwed tje raiders very bad we lose 1st round a d 2nd draft picks for this fuu , and goes back to Aaron Rodgers we should of gotten good draft picks bruu wtf😢😮
I agree with what you said, but a couple years down the line, if things don't get better I could see him asking to be traded to a team with Super Bowl possibilities.
Dope. Fully agree. Great points.
Totally with you on the not tank take. With Adams gone, we now have a ton of cap space. We aren't good as you said. We fight hard, win a few games, keep it close with KC even if we get beat twice and if we have to give away draft capital to move up a few spots to get a Sanders or Ward type guy, it won't take a ton of capital to get it done. We have to keep Tom Teleco though. Bowers- homerun. Powers-Johnson- homerun. Glaze-so far so good. Wilkins-homerun. Herbert-homerun. If Tom Teleco and Tom Brady both like a certain QB coming out next draft, be aggressive, get him, and let's roll. I'm excited to see what Teleco will do in FA with all this space IF we can be a fairly attractive place to play and that I believe, requires a few more wins and a lot of fight the rest of this season.
Don't sleep on a Crosby trade. Falcons are definitely in win now mode and they are last or near last in sacks. They could send penix and next year's #1 for Crosby. Give the raiders a half year to evaluate penix, and 2 first rounders to either get a qb and a pass rusher, or in the event penix is the franchise qb, we can fortify the o-line and get a pass rusher. Don't sleep on this
The context of that statement was intriguing, “I’m not here for a rebuild.” So what if the team is rebuilding?
I agree with this video 💯%!! Even if the Raiders win 3 or 4 more games we'll still be in position to get a top 5 QB. I've been arguing with casuals the last few days.
Thanks for the video , Sanjit. Personally, I don’t believe Adams and think his word is no good. All this time when he played for his he kept saying “ I’m not leaving” and then look at what happened: three weeks in he wants out. At the end of the day, Davante Adams is a diva who wanted 10 targets per game or he won’t be happy..end of story.
He's a diva for sure, but he did come her to win and the team sucked his entire Raider career
@@alexthegod2 yea forsure, I can understand that part. But all offseason he kept saying he didn’t want out .. and then three weeks in he wants out ..smh. I would have respected him more if he would have asked for a trade in the offseason
Just watch he will LEAVE TOO.🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nothing wrong players come and go.
in 2022, the Raiders had an insanely talented roster with Derek Caar, Josh Jacobs, Davante Adams, Darren Waller, Maxx Crosby. Without Crosby, the team is gonna officially be in full rebuild mode.
Gruden.
Tanking is not a bad strategy especially if you don’t have a top upcoming QB or top QB on the team. It’s more than just about the 1st pick in the first round. It’s also creates more options and leverage for each team tanking as they are in the driver sit to select the top prospects of each round.
Exactly, he wants to be a Raider for life
Yall RUclips content creators are something else. It don't have anything to do with davante Adams being traded. Has everything to do with the words that came out of Max Crosby's mouth. I don't blame him neither. Who would want to waste a lifetime chance two play in the NFL With a team that's trash.
Do u think if we take the 5th qb or whatever we have the coaches to develop that player. No it's not guaranteed that a top 2 pick won't be amazing but, it's also not guaranteed we fire the coaching staff so getting the qb w the most upside makes more sense than thinking Getsy will develop him.
If I was Madd max I would leave the Raiders asap. Our organization is a complete disaster
Garbage Mark has destroyed so many careers
I have always been a Raiders fan since 1967. We have not have a good team in years. I have to admit I have liked what the Lions have done lately & they have been my NFC team to win. IF Crosby is traded to the Lions I would be thrilled.
My 1st thought regarding the Raiders....FIRE GETSY. This team needs alot of changes
Why when we have superstar talent we always get rid off them instead building around them the only thing we always need is a QB
Max is literally the only raider I care to have have a jersey for.. he is the definition of a raider and the leader and face of the franchise. We need to get him a real QB
Max needs to sit down with Mark and see what his long term plans are
If he wants out he’s in his right. Dudes done nothing but be patient and give his heart to this team and the teams failed him
He hasn't been in the league that long!
Support the Man!
(For Wanting to STAY A RAIDER!)
FOR FUCKS SAKE!!!
Bs he's a cry baby 😂
Trade em….suck with him and without em……horrible franchise ran by a bowl cut freak…..trade em
It’s really hard to say I mean, we’ve been mediocre for so long. Hope we find a diamond in the rough. Maybe I don’t know if we go with Sanjits theory . It’s tuff .
Been a Raider Since LA 👆✌. 2003, that was our last time playing in "The Postseason." Wild Kard Game is not a Playoff Game. Through all That, I'm Still a Raider We All Are✊#RN4L💯 To me it's Hard When I hear someone who Doesn't want to be a Raider. Last Season Maxx was Talking about Loyalty about sticking with it. "NOW" he says This? I let Adams#17 go 2 seasons ago, you could tell he didn't want to be a Raider regardless of "The Money." Now Maxx feels this way. Yes Mark Davis said it's not Happening, but Maxx Don't Want To Be A Raider... "Once a Raider Always A Raider" Al Davis..................
ps: I wish John Gurdon Never Left, we would've had a Postseason GAME, he Was OUR LAST GOOD COACH!!!!!!!! No OTHER COACH AFTER HIM WAS WORTH A DAMN!
Jack del Rio! He went 12-4 .. first playoff since 2002. Should have NEVER been fired for Gruden.. to please fans just like you. See how that turned out? He was 29-36 his 2nd run as the Raiders coach. Why fans are obsessed with this man are the same fans that wanted AP as HC.
Starting today, things will start to change for the better. When TB12 walked into the building, the logo on the floor began to glow. 🎉
We need to build around Maxx..it's time for the organization to give back to the fans. They have been taking from the fans now over 20yrs. No f-ing excuses.
Maxx knew the tank was on at the same moment I did: when Pierce benched Minshew in the third qtr of a winnable game. Since then we've scored one legit TD and 2 garbage time TDs.
Having a solid GM and a players-coach are keys to building a solid team. AP might not be the best coach yet, but players want to play for him. It's year-1 and he's without a true QB1 & OC. #RN4L
I agree with you all the way around on this one. Good communication to make sure everybody understands that the plan is to move forward towards success. Keep the players that are young with the right attitude, ability and work ethic. Maxx Crosby has good relationships, communication, attitude and work ethic to be a leader among these men. Always work to show your desire to win and achieve. Show that there is always hope and teamwork in this building. Invite like minded players, coaches and staff to come in and build new success. Tanking is for chumps.
In 2017 the Chiefs traded up for Mahomes, doing so by traded their pick, a 3d and their 2018 first to go from the 27 pick to the 10, we could trade up without giving up our future
I feel so bad for crosby he needs to be on a contender i wouldnt be mad his a Raider for life
I felt that all that rah rah and support for Pierce was going to backfire and it has . I really was hoping Davis would grab Harbough but that’s water under the bridge now and we are stuck with Pierce .
Do all OC's want to be head coaches? What if we pay a guy like Bobby Slowik HC money? Could this be the ultimate plan considering we don't know all the details to AP's contract?
Wouldn't want to trade Maxx at all but !! Two first round picks ( 1 in 2025 & 1 in 2026 ) a second ( in 2025 ) plus a third ( in 2026 ) then I'm willing to talk about it 💯
NO TANKING!!!! Just win baby! We want to win! At least we gonna try
He’s saying he’s not going through another rebuild. Good thing about that is We don’t need a rebuild. We need a QB and a RB
He is not going anywhere, he wants to win a SB here!! Crazy trade talk yall
Trading Crosby would be a major blow to the team and the organization as a whole. I think that would be a big mistake if the Raiders decides that or even if it's Maxx choice. Watch the fan base fall apart.
Bro shhh had me dead when you said our gm is friendly so players will want to come over and agents 😅bro we are the raiders my guy no players want to play here intel we get a QB! Hopefully we get a new QB This draft good video though my guy as usual 🔥🔥
As a Lions fan we felt the same way with Stafford. But it wasn't for that trade, we wouldn't be Superbowl contenters years later
You have to admit, y'all got incredibly lucky. NOBODY knew Goff was going to turn out to actually be pretty good finally. And nobody knew Campbell was going to turn out so good either.
That's OK though, I'd rather be lucky than good sometimes.
@@DogSlobberGardens-i7f thats false. i knew and a lot of people did including brad holmes. fun fact Mcvay is 500 without Goff
What some of us don't understand, we don't actually need to tank on purpose we can just stay the course with the same OC, HC and QB and we'll get a high first round pick use this year to see which players can you keep on the roster to build for the future and who's a goner, you're going to get 100+ million in cap space next year too, stat the course keep Telesco and Pierce for next year, get a real OC and go from there
The loss to the Panthers really killed any momentum the Raiders might have had. If we lose the next two games before the bye week, you have to think that most of the players are checked out.
Basically,, Adam’s said raiders don’t know what real talent looks like, or what to do with it.. I’ve been a fan since the 80’s. And now we have RUclipsrs playing Madden GM telling REAL LIFE PLAYERS when, how, and where to play.. As a Raider fan I wish Max the best
By all means, try to win football games, but also use this season to evaluate young talent and feel free to rest our key pieces when they're hurt instead of pushing them. Need to identify who can be added to this foundation going forward and get a top QB in the draft (and/or trade for Justin Fields if the Steelers go insane)
Maybe they are wild enough to try and get Sanders at the top and Travis Hunter real soon after with a different first.
We have to try to get at least to get a good quarterback, a first round talent quarterback the last time we picked first overall in 2007 we picked Marcus Russell. I mean my God Al Davis set us back years with his bad drafting. We have got to get into the first at least the top five pick or top three pick to get ourselves a quarterback and start rebuilding from there. I don’t care what anybody says tanking is the way to go to get your player right now if we win four or five games meaningless games we’re not going to the playoffs anyway cause we suck and then what’s that gonna bring us to 11th and 12th pick come on guys wake up and smell a coffee please
Texans had a one year rebuild, both the Bears & Commanders are doing so, so the Raiders can do so as well with a rookie QB especially now with Tom looking over this team.
Kiper doesn’t have any of the quarterbacks in this upcoming draft in his top ten currently. There doesn’t appear to be a Stroud-Williams-Daniels in this draft. There’s no guarantee they’ll get a franchise in this draft. Agree with you about tanking. Doesn’t make sense in this situation.
Maxx ain't going anywhere. Media is ridiculous. They asked Tre Tucker like a hundred fifty-eight questions about Adams like the person before then didn't ask the same question. We need to move on
The tank was in when we hired Getsey and he will be the at least one of the scapegoats for it.
THE ONLY "REPORT" ABOUT THE CROSBY 2 DETROIT NARRATIVE IS FROM THAT HUGE DOUCHER WIFI SILLY.
That’s why we lost that on Cliff Kingsbury and had to get Luke Getty. We did not have a quarterback in play and he knew that Washington was going to get that quarterback because they had a better draft pick
They said the same thing with Adams so yes it can still happen because Adams was traded and Al says he doesn't want to do anything with the team management
Raiders fans don’t think that! It’s other fans from other teams after that Mike Caldwell push thinking it’s Adam’s part 2
Outside of QB, this team has good talent and 2-4 doesn't mean we're out of it. IMO trade for Fields and draft a QB with a similiar skill set. Continue to build the defense atound #98 and #94. Chin up Raider nation.