Genshin Impact Should Learn From Wuthering Waves
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- Genshin Impact Should Learn From Wuthering Waves
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sometimes genshin feels like planks of wood talking to each other simulator
takes the term talking to a brick wall to the next level
Correct
I mean, it’s a mobile game, they can’t have these types of extra animations.
@@jiachael5222 it's just an excuse wuthering waves will also be coming on mobile too a channel has even uploaded it's Android gameplay
@@jiachael5222 I've never seen a take so bad in my life 😢
I noticed Star Rail expressions were better than Genshin ones as well
yeah i’m playing star rail for the first time and i thought the same. it just looks better. like yeah genshin is open world but tbh star rail is a better game story wise, design wise, mechanic wise, etc. just bc a game is more “complex” doesn’t make it better.
They are definitely haha it's also a newer game. Genshin is old now ngl
@@tsukikageshinobi it’s bc they want genshin to be a mobile game. read the comments
@@CozyyO7 I don't think that's the reason... My guess is that they just got better facial expression technology when they started Star Rail since it's newer
Genshin doesn't have it because it's been there since the very start, replacing it definitely sounds like it would break a lot of stuff that's not worth the Work seeing as Genshin's current one gets the job done alright
"Lack of World -> Better Expression" doesn't sound like it makes much sense.
If Genshin was as New as Star Rail I'm Pretty confident we would've gotten Star Rail level expressions as well as the Open World
@@hayond656 Genshin has worse quality probably because most phones won't be able to handle it with better graphics.
My phone will probably explode 💀
These are some good observations, I can't wait for this game's release and finally be able to play it. Story driven is always going to be needed for me in exploration based games.
The only problem with this game is it's font style
The story is shit, they even didnt know what they want to tell.
wdym the story being told is rovers adventure so there will be things affecting rover@@asdfasdf11835
^ poor genshin white knight clown crying😂
Bet you're new player, that's why you so attached to it😂
Genshin story is sh*t. Anything memorable? NO
In hsr you remember cocolia and belobog, in honkai you remember Himeko and kiana struggles, in aether gazer you remember the intelligent visbane is making move, in browndust there's dark mage (haven't played it far).
Genshin has the most trash sh*t story ever in gacha era. Even SAO integral factor has better story than that trash😂
Scar is already my Favorite Character.
He looks like an adult shoto todoroki that has gone completly mad and turned to the evil side i love his design.
He is the only character in the game with an actual personality after all
@@baileeeystreeter don't diss my man calchero like that
@@Texansfan59no, he doesn't😭
😂 His scar is even on the right side!@@FLVRRALl1
Wuthering Waves please come to mobile…
don't worry, it's originally a mobile game that came to pc(the same as genshin)
It is in mobile
@@jielliel i really doubt that complicated combat system was made for phone it was 100% made for pc and converted over to phone phone gaming would be fucking impossible for 99% of the community unless your a god like im trash on a phone but pretty good on pc
@@iHudo8430it's really not that hard man, you can watch people play CODM and PGR with a lot of buttons no prob.
@@iHudo8430have u seen dmc peak of combat
not only that but i also notice there are friendly patrol NPC in certain area and will help us attacking the enemies if needed, that already a win in my book
while NPC in genshin just stand there and watch
the NPC taking the invasion seriously in this game, and sometimes you would find those patrol fighting TDs
@@eriknurwahab2861 or wild animal fighting other wild animal
@@ZzVinniezZ and in the night you would find those animals sleeping with usually the biggest ones watching over
@@eriknurwahab2861 aye, if u somehow disturd them, you have few seconds before they notice you if u sneak out of there, they will go back to sleep instead of coming near them and "bam" they all woke up and attack
In certain quests like the Golden Slumber quest line there are helping NPC's, but limited to that quest line (Not exclusively, but i cant think of that many quests, that did that)
once, ive expect that genshin was really looking like this, expressive character, BUT WHEN I LOOK AT AETHER THAT HASNT TALKING.. i fcuked up
this is still test 2 or 3
although they made it so expressive, I don't think they can continue doing that when they start 1.1 1.2 it would talk a lot of time
@@poooooya6369I think they still do it for main story. The side story is just basic (+ you can skip), so I think the dev doesn't really invest in side story
@@edendest8335same as the players anyways😂
Aether just an alien with no basic knowledge of Teyvat language, but dang! Now he build his harem world with limited vocabulary.
@@edendest8335 They are expressive in the side story as well
It might be the game engine, and might be the devs
the devs on ww really animated a lot on character expression, details, hair etc., on no cutscenes/dialogues
genshin devs, mostly can be seen on events or cutscenes, but there are some expressions on normal scenes but not too much
Genshin Impact uses Unity
Wuthering Waves uses Unreal Engine (UE4)
I say this is good and genshin should learn, well WW is gonna be a competition or rival for Hoyoverse
It's really hard to switch game engines tho. It would cost a lot as well
Oh. I thought Hoyo was just being lazy.
It isn't the game engine. HSR is also on Unity and yet has far more expressions on normal cutscenes.
I'd say the rig. Genshin's facial rigging system is simply showing its age now. Knowing hoyoverse, they don't see any profit in redoing the rigging on all characters for something only a few can appreciate.
@@oyshikaadi9631 Genshin uses a special version of Unity that they made for Genshin exclusively. It is one of the main reasons why the game has some increadible LOD, even on high altitude and structure driven regions like Liyue and still able to play it on a phone.
@@yuuri01 You were right brother, this is not an engine problem
The "DOMAIN EXPANSION" got me ROFL 😂
Genshin's dialogue have been improving lately. They seem to be experimenting a lot with angles and animations since Fontaine.
Actually since Sumeru, or rather thats where they started
thats true, it also took them them a long time to have events with more than 2 playable characters interacting with each other
Finally someone acknowledging that genshin is kind of becoming better
still EXTREMELY cluncky, it seems like they don't know how to use their own engine
@@atheon-I hate genshin. Its basically a fuckin slideshow. Every quest has 4-5 enemies and 3 hr of fuckin clicking
It's the difference in engines and the models being used for genshin. The fact is that genshin is a 3 year old game that was meant to succeed in the mobile market. Even compared to starrails where it has double or triple the anchor points for animation on the face alone. Genshin had to choose whether to sacrifice the storage size (limiting the number of players that will have access to the game ) or the quality of models. And they choose to make a lower quality model but save space so that people could still play till the game is finished. You can see this already with starrails already closing the gap to genshin's size even though it's been out for less than 1/3 rd of genshin's time. And this new game will be even more taxing on resources and I'm sure people with not so good laptops or mobiles will not be able to play it for long.
That’s a good point by the way 😮
fair point. I dont think my pc will be able to handle this one, it struggles with high graphics in star rail sometimes
I'm not so sure, maybe you're 50 or 60% right about this. But Unity is not a bad engine to begin with, it's not an engine which would ' limit ' the devs. If they wanted to make their in game cutscenes more alive like WuWa is doing, they could. But that would take more money from their pockets, though that's hardly a problem for them by how much they win with each banner.
Not to mention, that the game has been ' working ' thus far. There's hardly any reason to change anything if it sells so well now, and it will keep selling until the day they decide to end its service.
@@z33iihh well I'm assuming you have not made a game before. Because the engine and the models are exactly what's holding them back on top of the 6 week tight schedule for each updates. If you are talking about why can't they upgrade, well they would have to change the whole base models for every character with a new improved one and change all the physics and connection attached to it. Implement it in unity, which will significantly increase the size of the game. It's not always about the money.
kinoko prob your pc runs on medium tho if u can play high in star rail
Omg, Scar's wink...
I LIT DIED
Note that : choices matter in this game
You have the option to
1) listen to his(Scar )story
2) you can tell him to shut up and fight skipping his lore
In hoyo games, choices have the same results
No it doesn't.
Even if you listen to scars story, you will still fight him after everything is said. All it does is skipping dialogue. It does not lead to a branching path, where we could see the consequences of the choice.
@@oyshikaadi9631technically the consequences could be in the future, you never know, and one consequence is that you don't hear the story so you miss the lore.
@@oyshikaadi9631it's still a different outcome, yes you fight him on both options but on the other one you skip his story. While Genshin, if something like that occurs, they'll tell you their story regarding of your choice. I say that's quite different already
@@nisha4928 i suppose. The most genshin skips is usually just the next bit of dialogue.
Though I guess the closest Genshin was to this was with the mimi tomo event and the friendship minigames
(Also hangouts but those are a separate topic entirely.)
No? Probably Genshin but in HSR, you can choose to skip the entirety of Kafka's Story Quest or you choose to help her and play through it. Beisdes, they even have Bad Endings. Genshin is the most popular hoyo game but it doesn't represent the entirety of hoyo itself.
That's genuinely amazing, I've been missing expressiveness like this in Genshin. It's definitely gotten better if you compare the Mondstadt archon quest with recent events, they use the little animations for the characters more often, but these Wuthering Waves dialogues just top that with ease.
wuwa's dialogue system is truly unique
YOOOO I'M SO EXCITED FOR THIS GAME OMG! THIS IS ONE THING I COMPLAIN ABOUT WITH GENSHIN. Like for example Neuvi will be talking and I'll literally be screaming in my head "His mouth isn't even moving!" like it happens so many times and I wished they were expressive! I can't wait to spend all my money on this gacha game!
That is due to the lips being synced to Chinese. It will be the same in this game as well. Unless they use that AI to match the lips to the language
@@AashishPrajapati-nr2ox HSR does it, so nothing is stopping Genshin other than laziness.
@@AashishPrajapati-nr2oxthey are using AI or whatever to match the lips which is why the lips dont move in eng (when its not dubbed) etc
@@AashishPrajapati-nr2ox ohhhh I'm so dumb for not realizing that I'm literally an anime/kdrama watcher I should've known that 😭
Stg the scene when Dain was grunting in pain, VA giving it his all in the chasm and his face is just his usual default expression. It's so so weird to look at...
i said it a million times, those are IN GAME DIALOGUE CUTSCENES. in Genshin's Dialogue cutscenes the characters are stiff and repeat the same 3 animations every single time, WuWa's way of making their dialogues makes each character look alive. They all have unique animations for their dialogue and move & act depending their personality.
Kuro has been cooking really hard.
One question:
Do you think your phone will be able to handle all that high quality animations if you have Genshin on your phone?
No, my phone will probably explode 💀
@@Marshmellow_Cat Upgrade the phone? for 3 characters worth you can get one that runs it smoothly, I get that not everyone can afford to keep up to date with phone releases but there has been phones that run Genshin without problems for 3 years already and some of those are under 300 bucks nowadays.
Tbf to Genshin, it came out like 3.5 yrs ago, and was the largest thing that Hoyo had made thus far. The tech they used to make all the stuff is outdated and they can't just overhaul the rigging for the character and npc models.
@@drekhunter exactly, a lot of phones can handle genshin NOW, but if they add more animations, for quality, more areas, then some won’t
People really like to look at the short term. It's the reason why Genshin keeps on winning while all other competitors keeps on losing. Genshin has been very good at balancing a lot of aspects in the game: optimization, story, characters, events, etc. You can debate the QoL may be slow, but it is being pushed. And for most of the people who have played the game since launch, they always keep finding a way to keep them, specially those who have a very limited amount of time. The reason why events are so easy, puzzles are easy and heck, even the abyss is easy is so that, people who don't have a lot of time can still play and enjoy the game without missing too much. Even for the new content, a lot of people may debate that genshin is lacking but in reality, a lot of other people are still catching up with the new areas, myself included.
For the recently released games like Tower of Fantasy, these are the same things that people have said before. That ToF was the Genshin killer, it has better gacha mechanics, generous, etc. But where is it now? Once all the hardcore players fully explored the map, they will eventually get bored and move away. And this is where genshin truly shines, player retention.
It's not who has better animation or better gacha, or generosity that matters if you are in the business. It's all about repeat customers and consistent flow of new customers which translates into revenue. ToF could never. I hope WuWa actually delivers and not just now or in the next year, I hope it delivers the same way genshin kept its playerbase for the last 3years.
I am always careful around "online-service" games, because many will have more details in the beginning to hold people, than drop things off on updates.
like imo u can just start spending after a year or something when there's been enough time to see the devs true colors people say they have another game called punishing gray raven I haven't played it but people say it's good so it's probably gonna be fine
pgr is going on to 2 years or more already and the quality has only gotten better so i trust kuro is going to do things well and things will only get better as they go including how flashy and cool characters get
Why bro got the , "Na, I'd win" face 😭
I need this man to be playable 🙏🏻❤
not yet
I remember accidentally skipping a cutscene and being hella confused why am I fighting a literal goat 💀
goddamit its roland
ROLAND IS SCAR REAL
i love roland so much
I think it depends on the game direction. Maybe this is just my subjective view, but I think Genshin is more about world building. Because until now, Hoyoverse still put a lot of hard work in Genshin new maps, not just about the design but also new puzzles, bgm, local species, world quests. That's why to be able to keep the maps quality, they have to reduce the quality of other things.
kuro is working on this and the world building is quite good in pgr so i trust world building will be just as good. just look up pgrs music and character stories
Also the incredible mysteries/lore of the world that is yet to be found on genshin
The Lip sync is so good too
This scene has convinced me that I need to play WW as soon as it comes out xD
the most thing i like is the skip button
Wuwa CC playing without mentioning genshin challenge : impossible.
It's called bait bro. Somehow CC must do that thing to seek attention and got more views. NGL, it looks ironic but that's reality
bro he post much more hoyo games than talking about wuwa
So hyped for this game... hope to see you cover it!!!!
I don't understand why it's titled like this but honestly considering when Genshin was made i.e 2017-2020 and Wuthering Waves which is a very recent game. The differences in models and animation is bound to happen. There's so many games these days where their newer ip looks better. Like it's just standard.
It's not that Genshin is slacking, it's just that the game is at it's age and changing 3 years into timeline is not feasible and they've shown they've worked on model animations a lot with Star Rail and ZZZ. It's just stupid to expect them to go back recreate all 79 characters and their models, update their physics as if it's like a one click button. No amount of money is going to fix that. You don't go at R* and say hey GTA 5 looks crap update please
but they can do it on upcomming events or next regions ( i am talking about expression and lip syncing ).
@@psyh5743 still requires work to do to models and all the other mechanism related to animations. They are trying to patch it through other means but the models are just dated and the only way to fix is just to remake everything and do everything from again, which for the game of this size is just not feasible at this point. We can however expect newer mhy titles with amazing animation like ZZZ (check out one of their cutscenes it's so expressive and well animated)
@@sketter766 👍.anyway changing the character model now will looks weird for me because i got used to their old animation. hope they atleast give quality updates.
@@gil828 i have a fair understanding about game development, not extensive like others but things aren't as simple as people make it out to be, money doesn't fix everything guys. Thanks for the reply I'm glad someone acknowledged it 💙
Genshin was release in 2020, and yall are acting like it was in 2002
Holy fuck this backfired.
🤣🤣🤣
How?
how in literal sense
How?
And now, upon release, these custom expressions and other minor details are causing so much trouble for everybody with a low end device... Makes one realise why genshin worked.
This is due to optimization of the game itself has been not very good. It has nothing to do with the custom expressions in the first place. Genshin engine is old and the devs are just ungrateful lazy assholes who will throw you a bunch of primogems everytime there is something wrong.
Honestly wuthering waves is the only game who got me jumping excitedly😭
Now that it's dropped, I feel like story and characterization is so...rushed. It's like it's really rushing me to get to know the characters and what they're about without giving me enough time to grow into them. Same with worldbuilding.
Exactly, especially the first half seens so rushed, no suspence on who Rover truly is, or why everything happens. It was getting Intresting towards the Threnodian fight. Combat sytems are better, but thats about all the game does actually better, for the rest, they basically copied genshin almost 1 to 1. Yes they are more generous, but thats it. Gacha is basically the same with a slightly higher chance of getting the 5star Character early. Weapon banner is better though, atleast as far as i know.
This video doesn't aged very well🗿
It’s a little unfair to compare it to genshin imo. Game developments have become so good in the past few years. Even AAA games from the same IP look better in recent years. I.e: xenoblade 2 to 3. You’re comparing a 2020 release game to a possibly 2024/2025 release game. It’s a full console life cycle lol.
Unrelated: Y’all should play xenoblade 3 and the xenoblade series as a whole. Amazing series.
Not unfair if the game has all of genshins assets and more. (Not all, but you know what I mean)
@@scarscarscarwu I wouldn’t call it genshin assets per say. But having a “standardised” UI or core gameplay just make easing players more seamless.
But if we’re comparing graphics and character models, don’t need to compare GI to WW. Just look at characters from 1.x to the recent ones. The upgrades are significant enough in comparison. Considering the engine the game’s running
Yeah honestly all this made me think of Xenoblade as well😅
i dont know how its unfair for Genshin
who now have budget 100 or 1000times what Kuro game have.
Feel like people should stop pretending like Hoyo is some poor company. No they are not, giving out 10 pulls for anni aint gonna stop the CEO from buying his next yatch
@@longphan7656 how is that relevant to my comment? No one mentioned anything about money or game budget. No one here is pretending Hoyo is a poor company. Where did you get that from? It’s just a fact that GI is an older game, made with older engine. Just because hoyo is big NOW doesn’t change the fact that the game was released in 2020 and the development can go far back to the mid-late 2010s. WW is still in development and probably will be released in late 2024 or 2025. There’s a 5 year gap, even gaming consoles don’t last this long.
Outdated product vs the new one. Genshin was probably made with the 5-6 years old engine. Now upgrading it will only make worse for your system. That's why they gave the warning before Natlan. Most people won't be able to play Genshin now.
One thing I realised and accepted is,
Genshin no matter what it does good or bad, doesn't matter everyone will keep on complaining like hell and say bu-but we wanted that not this.
Iam not supporting mihoyo here but it is a standard trait of genshin players, they don't read the dialogues and want a skip button but complaining about expressions? Bruh.
@@DoggieBoi When I don't go to any twitter page or RUclips I don't feel too many issues. Since I started following Genshin content streamers I started hating a lot of things, then I had to stop watching them taking out stress online. From a story perspective things that make sense, would not make sense to them cause they are actually streaming it not playing it for themselves. If a game is free but has gamble in it and then you spend money on it without that game forcing you to do so and then ask them to make some serious changes, then I will say that person is thinking too much. Millions and Billions make a difference. Making differences means that Genshin will need to stop all future content for atleast 4-6 months cause I am sure they have not planned game fixes. And Genshin focus is not even combat, they simply earn money from characters, then focus on story and art. Graphics is mixed, mostly good. And for a person like me who knows how it feels to read a book or visual novel, I think this is still better. The voice actors of Genshin, and other artists has done a brialliant job that you can almost ignore issue with the expression. But for once even I would want them to make character movements in story and in open world better, only if they can halt the game story for few months and focus on game fixes rather than creating new characters, so they will need to make less revenue for few months. I actually really like the storywriting, art design and plot style of Genshin writers. They always improve the writing according to the world building.
@@arch391 bro, did you think i meant that to you too...?
It was not targeted on you,sorry I should have written it better
Your explanation is a W bro. Nice to see people that just don't senselessly hate every aspect of genshin.
@@DoggieBoi No, I was just trying to comment for streamers. I know many people have different opinions on how a game should be and how to play it. I don't know about your idea but I know some Twitch streamers who don't exactly play the game for what it is and start hating it for every thing they can find unpleasant. Even though it's a open world adventure gacha game, Genshin is not for everyone.
@@arch391 It isn't a godly game but it gets like shit ton of hate from everywhere..idk why.
Even though I couldn't play it but it's actually better than I thought, which makes me look forward to experiencing it in the official version!
let kuro cook fr
And not all gamers have access to UnrealEngine because of high hardware requirements isn't it? Genshin was building a game that will be inclusive of those who don't have powerful hardware.
Nah,GI is just lazy.Honkai starrail is the same game engine(unity) and it still has much better lip sync,facial expressions and better 3D models.
VALORANT is made in UE 5 and it’s as hardware inclusive as you can get
my guy so far it's 9 gigs even I have 50 free gigs and I'm using a mid range 22 Infinix phone
@@aurovictor2286 I hope you realize that by version 3.0 it’s gonna require more storage than Genshin will in 6.5 and I think snezhnaya will be bigger than sumeru.
can yall stop comparing and just enjoy the games
All this and only 8 GB.. yet *some* genshin players complain that literally just different skin tones will increase download
Me at 1 fps and my game crashing after one sequence of dialogue.
Literally me after I tried to play😭
Genshin could be a little more expressive but remember. It is a mobile, open world game. For this same reason, unlike HSR, they can't keep events. If Genshin did all of these it would easily go past 140 GBs on PC and 50 on mobile.
PGR. That’s all I’m gonna say
I'm sorry but that part "it's a mobile, open world game. so they cannot be expressive or it will be too big on mobile storage" a little bit of paraphrase
And here we are with Wuwa able to be a mobile, open world game and still keep the expressiveness under 9GB (11GB PC). Can be lower if you only opt for only one language audio
Not even mentioning that each character has individual unique animations. No two characters play the same. So much more personality.
Granted it's only the beta currently but Kuro is really, Really good with optimization. Even today, PGR can run smoothly on old potato phones.
@@tsukiri_masho you gotta realize that Genshin is older than the methods their using and currently if you wanna have the Genshin development team re work the entire game I’m pretty sure their gonna die .
Nah they can make a little tweak. Downloading the asset when you want to access that certain event. When you done you can delete it to free storage.
SO SIMPLE
But well, they just lazy. 😂
@@imkawaii9206this just tells me what you know about game development.
"Play a game that is story driven." Meanwhile genshin dev said genshin impact is a story based game.
yeah but cc dont care much for it
I dont like how Missions go to very shortcut places, English voice acting and simple story of this game.
But fighting and moving is hella great for a free game so i am not complaining and gonna continue to play :D
I even beat my first MONKE boss today. I also get 2x 5 star too. (One is look and act like Klee with a couple of sheeps and other one is just Sephirot XD)
Genshin Impact: Who are you?
Wuthering Waves: I'm you, but SLAAAY
_Its just so good 😫💦_
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CHILLLLL
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Bro 🤨💀💀
Scar is so cool
And yes i want that natural movement in the normal talking scenes and doesn't feel so robotic same with the expressions
waiting to pull scar, kuro don't disappoint me pls
With each passing day, I stray further from Genshin
Why do you think they need you?
boy i havent played in over a year gave up after so many boring quests
Unpopular opinion but i prefer genshin design.
Like, okay, maybe the expression and mouvement are better in wuwa, but i feel like the background or design are sometimes too much. And for me, the game feel kind of gray outside of the cutscene. And also, maybe it's because wuwa is new, but I prefer the relations between the characters in Genshin or Hsr.
So overall, wuwa is a great game with a super story and incredible animation, but i feel more joy playing Genshin (story, event, or just exploring) or Hsr. I don't know if this make sense 😭
It's just ur comfort game, happens.
It's alright, everyone can have different taste, doesn't have to make Sense, also you can enjoy both games and don't have to choose, If you prefer genshin then that's totally fine :)
About the Game being "gray" i think you mean that washed color out feeling, try turning the brightness very low, helped many people :)
Scar is basically Hisoka and Dante in a single body.
Thank you for this Ryoma!! Honestly, I needed a refresher on MTG since I learned how to play this during power outages. And it's as complicated as i remember, but I'm willing to relearn it. It was also the very first card game I learned that isn't with a deck of poker cards.
Jokes aside, he's so hot
Oh my god. That's like what everybody says about him😭😭. That or they talk about his cooch zipper lol 😂.
I just hope he’s released as a playable character in the future
he is planned to probably in 1.2 or 1.3(since chun is guarranteed to released in 1.1)@@cynthiahembree3957
look up punishing gray ravens roland. they are the same character. trust
The expressions are sooo fine 😩
I do have an explanation! They've improved a lot, as evidenced by Star Rail, but they need to keep Genshin's style consistent. I do get it though, if there was more to see I probably wouldn't click through cutscenes so fast.
Domain expansion: i run, you attack
Genshin is getting there, especially since the V1.0 days where its just Traveler and Jean Awkwardly standing still and their mouths not moving
Now you have characters moving around and having slightly more accurate dialogue to mouth movements
They dont need to learn anything as theyve always been inproving it.
GI having improvements on a few areas don't mean they are "getting there". The model interactions, outside of CGI, are still the same as launch. Heck, we are on getting near year 4, you look at their first lantern rite and this year's, the characters move exactly the same, be it main cast or npcs.
Mouth to speech doesn't mean better expressions. You can have a model not move an inch of their lips and still be hella expressive.
@futanahriadventures Bro calm down- It's not that deep-
All I was saying is that it's still substantially better then launch
Chill out my brother
@@futanahriadventuresthat and also during cutscenes, their overly expressions give me weird vibes, like it feels they try to compensate the lack of expressions during dialogue. most times that makes the immersion go away
@@C0RP0 You're kinda making it deeper than you think, just because they're improving (albeit VERY slowly) it doesn't mean that they shouldn't learn from another game that has something that's undeniably better like you said in your original comment.
The actual reason why Genshin can't quite "learn" from Wuthering Waves is that I believe they use a completely different game engine and changing it isn't really something they can do easily and fast, I also don't know how efficient Unreal Engine is when it comes to storage, but Unity from what little experience I had with it, isn't quite the greatest and Genshin's storage size might skyrocket if they put the same amount of effort WuWa has
@akirayuki6275 I'm really not-
Again, all I said is that irs better than when it was?
And I said they don't have to learn from it- because, yes, it's slow, they're already doing that, you can't learn how to do something if your already doing it. Lmao
Your the one making it deep by sending me a 3 page essay on why I'm 'wrong' XD
B.l.o.c.k.e.d
The game is so well made from how different enemies interact and fight with each other on their own and how the npcs will walk around and fight enemies when provoked. Even during this scene and other regular dialogue scenes i realized just how well the facial expressions and body animations were done and specifically during the scene where scar gets arrested and you ask him questions i was just mesmerized at how well the realistic eye movement was done.
Domain Expansion got me😂
Whoever that guy with the scars is I want him to chok- I mean, he definitely made me interested in the game
its scar u almost got his name without trying xd
look up roland from punishing gray raven and you will have an idea as to how he will be
Scar be like
Domain expansion:Chaos cards!
The thing is they need timing it, I notice some voice already end but the movement only reach half of it.
They synched the movements to the game's native language so the mouth motions feel awkward.
Genshin impact when normal talk : 🗿🗿🗿🗿
Wuthering waves when normal talk : 😁😆☺😊
story and writing sucks tho
And that's this type of short that makes me realise that Hoyoverse game's players for most of them can't make difference between types of games and appreciate what they have at their right value. (For example, Lorie Megistus on RUclips plays both Genshin and Honkai and NEVER has she said that type of things. Ofc she compares them bc it's Hoyo games but, never has she ever said that Honkai should learn from Genshin and vice versa.)
In the end, this is the type of content that creates a huge pressure on one dev team, then another, then another etc.
So, S t o p.
Stop putting pressure on my billion dollar company!!! 😡
@@Dhooparty not thr company, its employees that can't be paid too much bc of how Chinese government works 💀 (if we omit all the threats made by Koreans and Chinese players help)
it should be expected. since both are gacha open world.
@@LOO_Nah "Creating pressure on one dev team, then another, etc" And where's the genshin team when it comes to taking these requests into account? Lmao, they don't care. It's up to the company to decide whether they want to undertake the competition or not, and what kinda of market they want to sell to.
@@Dhooparty (Uh, I might have gotten a bit too distracted while writing and it's late, I hope it's still understandable and I hope my English doesn't sound offensive... not my mother language so..sorry🙏🏻)
They don't care until it actually turns to illegal things and sometimes very serious ones dear. Like, let's take the famous extreme case where Dawei almost got assassinated for a simple video that was made for the global audience of Honkai 3rd... Some might take those type of content, games and their comparison and decisions of a dev team and company TOO personally (which is stupid let's be honest) and when it's not the first time for a company that touches a global audience, and people keep saying of this game should do this or this one should do that, it's super annoying, one game has to be different than another otherwise making different games is useless, and some of the asian communities need to chill... They really need to and some American too (not just the US, Northern and Southern), because trying to make a company go bankrupt (impossible but oke) bc Honkai got a free 5 star that actually is useless for ¾ of the players is childish, people spitting on Star Rail because the story of Luofu was lame according to a lot of the players, even more childish etc... And that's actually that type of remarks that sometimes go to extremes like the one above about Dawei because apparently, either Hoyoverse doesn't listen, or they listen but wrong game or, even stupider, they apparently do favoritism over one community or something which is false as well... No like seriously, of course they listen but I think the pressure they have just by trying to make their best is already enough let's be real, so we don't need those types of "Genshin should had that", "Honkai should and all" because their charge of work is already immense, especially in a country where buying beer can make you look like, at the eyes of the government, like a bad parent and more... It's so stupid...
When I was playing this game that’s exactly what I thought as well
Domain Expansion Card Play
Genshin prioritizes minimizing size and maximizing dub compatibility (using ai for synching voiceover animation), so they don't render cutscenes often, though they're amazing when they do~ But the tradeoff is stiff recycled expressions (camera angles do improve the experience) and possibly contributes to the skippability of the experience. Wuthering Waves isn't doing that and it's helping set them apart. The gameplay may be crunchy, but you can feel the dedication is there and they know what they want and cooked their own desserts. Plus they seem to be pretty efficient. In mobile their cutscenes look clean and sharp and don't lag or cut off (the fights do F). GI and streaming are just flat videos but may still suffer quality issues while playing. So far WW videos do not have this problem, and the scenes are a bit better than the settings quality even with all the refined animations.
thats my man right there
Idk who Scar is but I need him
LMFAO the sudden "DOMAIN EXPANSION"
Damn bro is majestic af
So far GI has only beaten it in color scheme and art style for me since it’s closer to my favorite, BotW. It also has a better magic system imo BUT so far WE had a much better QoL, combat system, and story. I know a lot of people will complain about bugs but GI had that at opening too and they did not give us 20 free limited banner pulls to compensate. Also as for why the story is better it’s because there is clear trajectory for character and plot development. GI story that everyone THINKS is story isn’t actually story, it’s revelation on what is literally ancient history aka lore that traveler’s twin happens to be a part of AND revelation of how the world/magic works aka world building info. So yeah, GI has amazing lore and world building that WW hasn’t had as much time to develop but it completely falls flat in the story line. To the point where it’s almost strange that the traveler is center point in many of the conflicts, in fact you could argue that much of the story besides Sumeru really didn’t require Traveler at all. He was practically not that powerful in Monstadt so if not him helping Dvalin it could have been anyone else!! So so much of the “story” is just the traveler being a witness, and he has little to agency yet all the characters around him seem to be all good and the only character imo who had any chance of being his opponent they literally incinerated!!! (Signora was one of their best written characters despite the lack of screen time, she had background setup and did things to make us legitimately hate her - if you hate a character it means they did well, meanwhile all other characters might be seen as interesting or quirky but not actually a device for the story - Signora redemption and arch nemesis arc as she gains power to combat the traveler would have been an interesting thing to see)
For me its almost the other way around, imo Story building feels rushed especially the first 5 acts feel just off, its only after that where it becomes more Intresting before reaching uts Climax at the Threnodian battle. I dont feel hyped for the Story whatsoever currently, since they basically explained most of it in the First Story Chapter. Only thing im currently a bit intrested in, is how and why Rover was reawajend the first time, why he was part of Black Shore, and why he was in a slumber at all. Genshin meanwhile has so many things you want to know, why they are like they are, what is the loom of fate, why isnt the Abyssal twin recorded in Irminsul and so on and so forth. Im a One Piece fan, which has similar story building to genshin, which might be because i like it more. But its Subjective anyway, so it dosent really matter. Who knows, maybe i will start to like WuWa' s Story more in the later Chapters.
It pretty unfair genshin is 3 years old, different engine. I not surprise if WW have something better than genshin.
Nothing Hyv should to learn form kuro, they always improve on their own. just look at HI3 got huge improve, They overhaul their 6-7 years old game, instead of create new game and dumb old game like other gacha dev do.
All of these people have no idea about game development and advancement, ofcourse newer titles look better
ZZZ already showed that they made so much expressive characters there, same for Star Rail.. Genshin is just showing it's age at this point and no amount of money can fix core problems that requires massive development time with an already harsh schedule
it seems to be running on the pgr engine to a degree and that shit runs smooth like butter on my phone and its been out for 2 years
Even if the expressions are better, I can tell from the game features that they pretty much copied mostly everything-
I fought scar in the first meeting and his attacks were pretty straightforward so it was nice
Ахаххаах «расширение территории» 😂
Когда проходила этот момент тоже подумала об этом
I really hope this game lives up to the hype and also devs won't get too overwhelmed
I want this game so bad
For a moment i thought it was a new hsr character related to Topaz
I adore the expression of manic on scar, it makes his personality of absolute insanity just much more better!!
Should "learn" when the newer game itself is basically just taking all they have "learned" from Genshin itself. Idk why people always act like the older game should have already done this when the newer game is looking at the older game and going "yes! We'll do it like this! And improve it!"
The devs of Genshin are improving as much as they can with each updates. Telling them to improve when they're the stepping stones for these newer games is so hilarious to me.
Hoyo is 100 to 1000 times richer than all these new company
their dev team can easily 3 times or 4 times the size of WW's dev team.
They have improved jack sh-t over the course of 3 freaking years + 4 years during development
@@longphan7656 I’m pretty sure Genshin Impact is that development team’s first big game, and I’m pretty sure one of the company founders is actively sabotaging the game.
in 4 years genshin has barely done any kind of improvements at all either in gameplay or qol and its not like they are pioneers or "stepping stones" in the industry at all.
genshin is the textbook definition of missed potential in the gacha industry. genshin has a lot to learn from their brother/sister games honkai impact, star rail and from wuwa.
If only all VA's apart of Scar were expressive lol
They coulda amped up the crazy on scar a bit more...Like Terumi crazy
The fact Paimon is more expressive than Aether 💀
My wallet beat genshin a long time ago im ready for a game that can make me go broke AND test my skill lessfkn goo
This scene where he tells the story about the shepherd and the sheep’s got me curious lol
If you're going to copy Tower of Fantasy, Genshin, and Honkai Impact in one game, they should really make it look unique or else it's just a knockoff.
Content creators should learn to stop comparing two games from different companies.
People compare food from different restaurant chains from different companies
Clothes from different companies
antivirus from different companies
software in general from different companies
furniture from different companies
drinks from different companies
why should games be any different if it's constructive?
People should learn that everything is comparable to some extent in terms of criticism. So are games that are exploring the same genre. Blindly defending it gets you nowhere.
it's not like he's comparing things that aren't comparable... like he's not comparing that the character's design looks different from another game, or the character's personality is different from that other character from that other game. like no shit you know
people should learn about good comparisons instead of saying the default "StOp CoMpArInG tWo DiFfErEnT GaMeS oR cOmPaNy""
@@BranOnline When it’s constructive then yes. But you can only compare so much tbh. Gameplay and QoL for sure. Comparing GI graphics to a game release in 2024/2025 is hardly a fair comparison. Considering development time pre release genshin is a product of the late 2010s. I’ve seen people criticising things at face value only so it can come across as uninformed.
Genshin should learn from several other games for several reasons. Its like Genshin's dev team is allergic to innovation and actually adding good things to their game when asked
Yeah, its nice when it isn’t actively trying to assassinate my computer.
I’ve yet to see my ping in the green
Considering the hour i intensely played wuwa now, objectively the smoothness of the gameplay and the lore of genshin is still better than wuwa. Unlike genshin, wuwa still have way too many bugs especially on mobile (although they are constantly improving which is great), but wuwa’s lore is like HSR….they expect you to read several datalogs to understand many concepts which most people would fail to read or even realize they encountered it…genshin usually ease up on the terminology or make the story progression more slower so that people would easily understand the concept and even if we didnt understand it, it is on the traveller POV being clueless about it as well so it makes sense
Oh my it's the Scar dude with a "thing" zipper-
Competetion is good. Prevents them from them from getting lazy.
It literally feels like watching anime. Wuwa is🔥
"been a long time"
HSR: Really brother?
Honestly, I really like WuWa. But my problem with it, is that I can’t finish the act 6: TD outbreak fight because of constant crashes. But like ugh, it’s so pretty! The character design, expressions, animation etc!
Dude the characters in genshin have barely any expressions at all. It’s only visible in cutscenes like angry raiden, fearful paimon or crying furina
Is almost like watching a cartoon or anime in real life time I love games like that😂like I want the characters to be expressive n show their capabilities or powers etc like you’re talking to em not a damn blank of wood.
He looked at us, he winked at us, he called our meet a date.
What else do we need?! 🤭😩💅💅
Just remember that all the normal walk during genshin feels like a bland juice😂
I'm waiting for this game to be on PlayStation 5
the final mission is a piece of art