Box joint jig you can buy
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Showing off the box joint jig that used to be for sale at woodgears.ca/bo.... Selling these jigs was an experiment between John Heisz and myself, but there wasn't a price that was both right for the consumer and reasonable for making them. Read more about it at the link.
I've seen this jig many times, but never knew how it was used until now. Pure genius from the mind of Matthias..
This is probably the best instructional video on how to use Matthias' amazing, but complex jig. I'm compiling some setup notes/guide for me to remember what I've learned from watching each video a half dozen times or more if anyone wants a copy.
Yes, on my website. Click the link in the description and browse around.
oops - I'd changed my mind as to what URL to give the page after I uploaded the video. Can't change it now, so put a page pointing at the right page at that URL now.
I totally understand not being able to make enough for the amount of work that goes into building it. I would buy one because I don't have the time to build one myself and the small amount of time in my shop is precious. Great work.
Can you please do a video on how you built your out feed table and wing extension on your delta table saw? Really looks awesome!
By my rough calculations it would take me two weekends to build this, at my minimum cash labor rate, (you would have to twist my arm pretty hard, and I would have to love the project to work that cheap) this would cost me about $800.00 before plans and materials. The $300.00 that was charged for a hand crafted piece or art like this would of been a steal.
If they go up for sale again I want one.
Talking about glueing... Lee Valley recommends putting the box together perfectly square as a dry fit and squeezing their Chair Doctor glue into the joint. The runny nature of that glue fills the joints and creates a strong bond. The advantages are obvious. You can take your time with the assembly and still have a nice tight fit like your first attempt on this video.
There wasn't a price that allowed John to make a decent income at it yet still be a price that was reasonable for such a jig. You pretty much have to manufacture stuff in low wage countries to hit the price point that people expect.
You have the most wonderful wood machining skills I have ever seen. Nice Work!
This should be retitled "Box Joint Jig You Can't Buy"
as you said its for sale i was thinking this should retail at around 300$... i think this is fair as a commercial one one easily go for $600...spot on matt
I don't get the thumbs down??? What is with some people? Great jig! Live your videos! You're one of my favorites, as you are a wonderful teacher.
I'm guessing cuz they cant buy them anymore. People downvote for the stupidest reasons
Matthias, first off, I love your videos and projects. Never miss one! It's also super cool to see clips of the growing family.
I bought the plans for this and built it this week. The jig is beautiful and the plans were very well put together. My only right now is that the main gear seems to flex a bit and slips sometimes. I think the likely issue is tooth fit and I'm going to take the drive gears off and refine the teeth a bit more, but Matthias, if you have suggestions for improving the ride of the gears other than filing the gear teeth down, I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.
Gettin' Jiggy with it ! For a non professional like myself, this all boarders on magic !
Brillant. I hope you offer minor discounts for disabled veterans. This is the best jig I have ever seen. Bravo. Impressive
im a follower of john heisz hes a great wood worker just like you. glad you 2 are friends
If it was me I would be happy to pay between £70- £100 for a well made jig like that. Sorry if that seems low - I don't know how long these take to make. Considering the time it would take me to make it, the materials and tools I would need to buy etc. Very very nice piece of kit.
It looks to me like you should move the saw blade down a bit to make the fingers shorter, so they fit more closely. If they overlap even 1/16 inch your box would shrink. You would have to cut every piece long, make the joint, trim to fit, then cut every piece to length after fitting the joint together. Nice idea for a jig but a bit more work than needed. ..
No need to worry, it's no longer for sale, like it says in the description..
Watch my video series on building a box joint jig
Sorry to post on this old video, I was wondering though are the plans for this particular Jig? I see the plans for your other Jig and I checked out the plans from John's site for his jig. I'm curious though if this joint effort is sort of a best of both worlds thing, or if it was just designed simpler for mass production.
I do like the idea of building it out of plywood since it seems thicknesses would be more consistent, not sure if that's at all an issue anyway though.
So I just had an idea; what if instead of using electrical tape to mark where to stop on the gear, you drilled small holes lining up on and between each tooth and used a small piece of dowel to indicate the locations to stop? It's a lot of holes but it feels like a more permanent solution.
I have been thinking about building this. I actually made something similar without the gears All of the cranking with no gear reduction is a pain so I really dont use it.
This is a far better design with the gear reduction.
Hi Matthias, I bought your plans, and I'm starting to make the parts, but I'm using baltic birch, like john heisz did. It looks like he mounted his t-nut directly on the stock holding box, without making a plywood piece to be properly located later. Is there any downside to that? Also are there any problems you can see with using plywood - my front & back rail and stock holding box base thickness is more like 3.75 cm instead of 3.6cm.
It seems like john heisz used box joints for his stock holding box. I was going to use rabbets and splines like you...any problems with that plan (using the baltic birch)? Thank you, and thanks for all your interesting work!
I made this jig, Matthias Wandel the best RUclips channel in this matter.
Ha, that would have come in handy during my time in the apprenticeship... Cool stuff all in all.
I tested your demo version of the gear generator and I'm thinking about buying it. Creating gears in 3dsmax on my own didn't really go smooth enough and it was distracting from the actual project. Cheers.
great videos., only the third one ive watched, already subbed, you have a great tool room, super envious
I'm really thinking about buying the plans for this awesome jig, however there is no chance that I will be using an Imperial threaded rod 'cause I'm used to working in metric and imperial sized stuff is hard to get around here.
What are the consequences for the design if i use a metric rod? Will I need other sprockets? I'm thinking I don't but would like to be sure :'D
If you use a metric threaded rod, then it's better to work in metric. The spacing table generator works in metric and in inches.
Thanks for your fast reply!! got yourself a customer.
at 6:44 there is one frame which has a random picture of the large gear
That's weird. Wonder why
It is probably a sliver of video that is hard to see when editing.
Lee Poling Either he messed up and forgot to delete the little slice of video while trimming and stitching together all the clips, or his software bugged out a threw a frame that was trimmed away into another frames spot by mistake. It happens a lot with some programs unfortunately
You watched the video frame by frame?
Hello, would you be able to do a video about tear out and how using a sacrificial piece of wood prevents that? Thanks!
I'm so glad that I saved myself all that extra math just by finding an 1/8th inch blade, it makes things so much simpler.
Hi Matt' When making a large or high cut through any piece of wood. Is it best to do a "Gradual" cut until the desired height in order to prevent "Tear Out"? If so, when is it necessary? I'm no Wood Expert, Just asking - Good Day!
Im slowly starting to understand your math. When I understand it all im going to work for NASA.
That is indeed the background of most NASA employees.. And that's why no project is ever on budget!
Sounds like it would be a lot simpler if you used metric measurements
+Luskus, He does use metric whenever possible. The threaded rod is 16 TPI, and very commonly available.
I've downloaded the plans for this and I expect to have it finished in a couple weeks. However, is there a user's manual that comes with it? Specifically, one that explains in more detail the math involved in using this.
That thing is so ingeniously thought out! one day I'll make one myself...
@Cosmas Bauer Has this one day come?
I wonder: How reliably could these box joints be held together without any glue, by simply driving a long dowel (or 1-2 finish nails) from top to bottom? If so, would speed things up!
That makes no sense! Box joints are so strong because they glue-join the length-grain (maybe I don't know the right word for it) of both pieces together.
I believe, personally I would rather make one myself. Which is what I was thinking when i first started watching the video. Can I get the plans instead of buying the jig. But, I'm not just a hobbyist, I am a professional. I know my customers would rather hear me say I made this jig instead of I bought this jig.
@Matthiaswandel Prehaps if it was sold as a build it your self kit it would be more viable price wise. Does John make them with a cnc?
Cool. And the plans are still for sale?
That price is exactly why they aren't for sale.
why is this jig no longer available for sale?
how is it that good inventions are not available for others to enjoy?
Hello Mathias , how much I would pay for one of those ready, is that I am amateur and do not have all the necessary machinery to build , even if I buy the plant. My name is Edson Ilton , I live in Brazil , in the interior of Goiás state.
I think you jsut killed what's left of my brain :) :)
very beautiful your work
Matthias, Nice Design
I want to buy the plans and make this, I just know I would forget a step in the math and mess up the cuts when making the finger joints
This is really awesome.
Can you get plans for the modified version , would like this version if possible
Are you sure the spelling is correct for the URL at the end of this video. I tried and could NOT find this site.
you should sell plans for it so it only costs you the time to write out pland
Hi. What is the capacity of this machine? ie: 12 inch board, 14", etc. Great idea for the home work shop.Can't wait to purchase plans if it will fit my application.
Tim Pierce 12"
Can u place a link in here so I can buy one
Nice !
or you could put a 1/4 inch dado stack in and do one turn done :)
congratulations Mathias but may automatically translated into Spanish. i am colombian and no speack english
How much does it cost...
Can't buy it anymore. Oh well. That sucks.
How much were they when they were available for sale
$300
Emo Philips should have used this on Weird Al's Talk Town UHF...If some think Matthias isn't safe...just a little nugget for the OSHA BOYS...poke gentle fun at our pal but don't harass him...sure he's man enough to take it...but WHY? Thumbs up to you Matthias so far I still have both of mine intact too. despite dangerous shop practices.
I wanna buy one can you place a link in here
See link I put in the video description all along
Amazing
Hi,.!! Matt it say there on the screen that the plan for this is no more available for sale, i ask you if you get freetime draw a blue print so i can purchase some of your creation so i can build me a home project,.. oversea's
Cesar Caoili The plans is and always was for sale. The physical jig itself is no longer for sale.
Don't you think this is a copied version of your box join jig?
They are friends.
where can I buy the plan?
Matias how are you? can you get the plans? I am from Colombia and here no anything like that and just watching the video I is difficult to do, I would greatly appreciate if I could make those plans so be buying them, so this could make a turn by wester joined or tu me indicate. am grateful and pending your response.
Here is the link to buy the plans: woodgears.ca/box_joint/plans/index.html
Hallo Matthias, wie heissen die Dado Blades auf deutsch?
I assume John isn't in China. Should've thought it out thoroughly.
can we still buy this jig?
see video description
ty good work
intéressent dommage que se n'est pas en français se serait plus simple a comprendre
pour le moment je ne peut que supposer vos paramètre de réglage merci pour vos vidéo
$300 for a joint jig is not that expensive. It's not like you have to replace it every year.
wonderfull!!
I haven’t a clue what this is.
nice
you wanna throw a video of it up on youtube i would be very interested. PM me if you do thanks
i want this jiiiig :)))
My head hurts
lol
wood wood wood
Too bad selling them didnt work out.
sorry but the pantograph is easier
lol
you never walking easy way,always walk unsmoth and difficult way,too much machanisme and engineering way.all unnecessary laborious, money loss and time lost.thank you.
America is becoming a low wage country, just ask IKEA.