I know, it's very sad to see. And of course the viper was already faster with a front engine. And ferraris. Perhaps what they meant is "they can't go any faster with a front engine within their pricepoint", which may or may not be true.
@Larkc-ty5sz so is a corvette. But as you know, we are talking about rear mid engine which gives significantly different weight distribution than front mid engine.
People dont realize what a masterpiece this car is. Its reliable, has good storage space, tons of modding potential, its a beast in straight lines and even more in corners, daily driveable, and this lap was done in not optimal conditions. And yet nothing asian or american can touch it after 4 years.
Lmao 🤣😂 there's plenty of things that are close enough to it for much less. Idk how you folks hate on everything else lol. Go price a AMG GT BLACK Series...they're 400K if you can find one. The special edition 1 of 13 models sell for 800k It's amazing but it's not like there isn't anything that's 10-15 seconds slower for a few hundred thousand dollars less. Even the GTD everyone is so upset by.
@thepetrolman4879 my friend Chris, you really have a way with words, in that you really know how yo use alot but not say anything useful. the price is not something we care about as car enthusiasts, we are simply here to admire great cars. the gt black series is in class with the porsche gt3 rs and gt2 rs. both are unattainable for most people but are the highest tier of performance available.
I play iRacing, and recently discovered how good this car is in that sim. It’s fast, it’s really easy to drive, and even gets relatively good fuel economy. If I hit the lottery, I’d get one of these in real life to enjoy.
Its the competitor to the brandnew Mustang Gtd, and despite having less power, same price and being over 4 years older, its still much faster. Says it all about german engineering.
The difference is that the GTD came from the Mustang GT3 that is not even purpose built for the Nordschleife. Heck, they didn't even race in the 24hr Nurburgring. The Mercedes, BMW and the Porsches and all of the German cars are purpose built for the Nordschleife and driving there on a daily basis. Ford is a car brand that didn't set foot much in the Nordschleife on a daily basis, its a massive achievement. The Ford are the young guy rookie in the Nurburgring Nordschleife and is getting closer to the Old boys veterans of the Nordschleife.
@@Vergil20000 Someone is forgetting that Multimatic developed the GTD, they basically live at the Nürburgring, thats how often they are there. The also tested the GTD for months, and still didnt beat the older Veterans, now you can imagine what happens when the new Generation of Eurocars come out at the ring.
@@frederickcook87 I know, its all about marketing recently for american brands, chevy does that with the new Corvette too, loudmouthy about beating the Euros with no result lol. Missing the times when it was just a friendly competition.
@@everythinggaming7938 oh really and what is the reason for that? so I can give you a hundred reasons why your lap time would be better in warmer conditions
6:48 is the time too compare it with the GTD Now can the GTD team said they didn't have the ideal condition and they can do better... 10sec better? I don't think so
@@cooleb Maro is an insane beast. IMHO Dirk can't match Maro even if he were a passenger in same car! Ford needs a driver on this level if they want the lap time. As a person who has a GTD allocation I don't buy into the track conditions excuse. Something else was up, be that driver or car. I believe this was the reason for the second attempt that got rained out. 10 secs is huge delta.
The difference is that the GTD came from the Mustang GT3 that is not even purpose built for the Nordschleife. Heck, they didn't even race in the 24hr Nurburgring. The Mercedes, BMW and the Porsches and all of the German cars are purpose built for the Nordschleife and driving there on a daily basis. Ford is a car brand that didn't set foot much in the Nordschleife on a daily basis, its a massive achievement. The Ford are the young guy rookie in the Nurburgring Nordschleife and is getting closer to the Old boys veterans of the Nordschleife.
Wrong. It's a front mid engine. Open the hood and you'll realise how far behind the front axle the engine actually starts. Furthermore the gearbox is in the back which further improves weight distribution. The GT had a very good weight distribution and wasn't overly heavy. Great car to have.
u should say that this isnt a new record this was done at the end of 2020 but i wonder how they did it... i mean it was cold and a bit damp, wasnt it? The perfect conditions are somewhere between 15 and 20 degrees as far as i know.. and dry of course they could probabaly make a 6:40 flat if the conditions are right especially if they use modern 2024 tires
@senadhasanbasic260 LOL! Like I said 911 fan boy^ the time speaks for it's itself. Second best isnt bad, but for AMG it's the best or nothing lol if porsche is king then Benz is God
It’s bad when the ford guys make excuse after excuse for that heavy overhyped shitbox on gtd videos but to come here with excuses too is just ridiculous 😂😂😂 Stick to pickup trucks… have your CEO/fanbase shut their damn mouths and keep crashing into crowds at Cars&Coffee 😂
Well unfortunately for us, they listened to you. in america Ford has discontinued every vehicle that isn't a truck/suv except the mustang. same with chevy and the corvette. the reason why they get so much hype is because it's the ONLY thing American car enthusiasts can even root for, we have no other options.
Wow, this older front engine Benz just made the Mercedes AMG One look pretty damn slow around this track.....along with a slew of other brand new machines.....impressive, Benz learns a lot from GT racing this model.
This is what the Ford Mustang GTD needs to be aiming at 6.48 on the 20.8 k lap has to be the aim. RWD FR platformed car exactly the same as the Ford this black series is it’s real competition.
This lap was done in winter with 7 degree C temp, far from ideal and clearly the track wasn't dry at all. With Cup 2R's it's not ideal - AMG really need to do redo the lap in slightly warmer conditions 15 degrees or so, and completely dry track. Easy 5-7s gain
true.. but more expensive and with 230 extra hp this car has 730 hp and the GT2 RS with "just" 700 hp is 4.8 seconds faster i wish Mercedes comes back with a newer version and newer tires in better conditions i think they can beat the old GT2 RS MR
@@pedro_peyoteThey won't come back because it would mean nothing to them as production have ended for this car and the AMG One now holds the production car lap record at Nordschleife.
I’m a red blooded American but I’d take the AMG over the ford GTD in a heartbeat. No hesitation. If I want a performance car it’s more than likely going to be German just like my guns (H&K superiority)
The difference is that the GTD came from the Mustang GT3 that is not even purpose built for the Nordschleife. Heck, they didn't even race in the 24hr Nurburgring. The Mercedes, BMW and the Porsches and all of the German cars are purpose built for the Nordschleife and driving there on a daily basis. Ford is a car brand that didn't set foot much in the Nordschleife on a daily basis, its a massive achievement. The Ford are the young guy rookie in the Nurburgring Nordschleife and is getting closer to the Old boys veterans of the Nordschleife.
@@Vergil20000 GTD is a street legal race car. AMG BS is not even close. GTD downforce is from another world. It's even more than GT3 RS. GTD should beat all of them easily, especially GT3RS. GTD has 300hp more!!
@@Vergil20000Sounds like copium, considering a normal track magazine test of the Ferrari 296Gtb was already just a second slower then the official record run from the GTD. And Ferrari doesnt test often at the ring, less then Ford. So......whats the next excuse
@valerystoichkov7429 when was Ford last participated in the Nordschleife races? Oh yeah it was back then 1960s. When was Ferrari last participated in the Nordschleife races? Oh yeah it was back then 2024. See that difference? Ferrari has been in Nurburgring Nordschleife events since 2010s until today with their GT3 cars. “And Ferrari doesn’t test often in the ring?” That made me laugh, they have the complete knowledge of that track where the Ford does not.
@thepetrolman4879 yeah...for sure it is. Essentially bespoke chassis, bespoke suspension, bespoke aero. The black series is just a modified version of a much better base car. Pretty obvious that the mustang gtd is more special. It has nothing to do with being a ford though.
Imagine a track that been the milestone for a sucess race street car models which 90% are located in Germany. Now imagine the American brands with there rear happy tree hugging mustang taking a try and already getting sub 7.. amd ppl bragging about how bad it is...😂😂😂 American bout to take yall throne
You got it wrong. Ford and Multimatic trying to break a 500hp Porsche in the most extreme road legal Ford ever and cant do it. America aint shit when it comes to cars, buddy. Wont change, ever.
Ford should have thought about the Mustang's crowd chasing credentials instead of thinking it can chase lap times set by comparable European cars at Nordschleife. They are the one's who said they will beat the Europeans at their own turf, didn't they?
Corvette Team: “We CaNt Go AnY FaStEr WiTh A fRoNt EnGiNe”
I know, it's very sad to see. And of course the viper was already faster with a front engine. And ferraris. Perhaps what they meant is "they can't go any faster with a front engine within their pricepoint", which may or may not be true.
And it looks like a Camaro now. It's not a Stingray anymore, it's just an American mid engine sports car.
the amg gt is literally a mid engine car by definition
@Larkc-ty5sz so is a corvette. But as you know, we are talking about rear mid engine which gives significantly different weight distribution than front mid engine.
Lol
People dont realize what a masterpiece this car is. Its reliable, has good storage space, tons of modding potential, its a beast in straight lines and even more in corners, daily driveable, and this lap was done in not optimal conditions. And yet nothing asian or american can touch it after 4 years.
Don't forget that it's looks like a fine piece of art
@@ArthaxtaDaVince777facts
@@ArthaxtaDaVince777the designer at Mercedes deserves a raise for creating this masterpiece
Lmao 🤣😂 there's plenty of things that are close enough to it for much less. Idk how you folks hate on everything else lol. Go price a AMG GT BLACK Series...they're 400K if you can find one. The special edition 1 of 13 models sell for 800k
It's amazing but it's not like there isn't anything that's 10-15 seconds slower for a few hundred thousand dollars less. Even the GTD everyone is so upset by.
@thepetrolman4879 my friend Chris, you really have a way with words, in that you really know how yo use alot but not say anything useful. the price is not something we care about as car enthusiasts, we are simply here to admire great cars. the gt black series is in class with the porsche gt3 rs and gt2 rs. both are unattainable for most people but are the highest tier of performance available.
Insanely underrated car.
I play iRacing, and recently discovered how good this car is in that sim. It’s fast, it’s really easy to drive, and even gets relatively good fuel economy. If I hit the lottery, I’d get one of these in real life to enjoy.
Might as well give this time an asterisk for for also being at night with how low that light level was. Impressive.
Nothing beats ze Germans. Engineering on another level.
@@NJRacer623the Germans are all over dominating at american tracks too.
@NJRacer623 Its not like even the fastest production sedan around Laguna Seca is a Porsche too 😂
@@NJRacer623youre cringe af
@@NJRacer623Nice try Cheeseburgerman
for theirs cars and at their home turf sure
Best car ever
Laughing in the c8 zr1’s face.
Its the competitor to the brandnew Mustang Gtd, and despite having less power, same price and being over 4 years older, its still much faster. Says it all about german engineering.
The difference is that the GTD came from the Mustang GT3 that is not even purpose built for the Nordschleife. Heck, they didn't even race in the 24hr Nurburgring. The Mercedes, BMW and the Porsches and all of the German cars are purpose built for the Nordschleife and driving there on a daily basis. Ford is a car brand that didn't set foot much in the Nordschleife on a daily basis, its a massive achievement. The Ford are the young guy rookie in the Nurburgring Nordschleife and is getting closer to the Old boys veterans of the Nordschleife.
What an idiotic comp
No, the gtd is a marketing gimmick by Ford… the gtd is a back marker aka lapped traffic…
@@Vergil20000 Someone is forgetting that Multimatic developed the GTD, they basically live at the Nürburgring, thats how often they are there. The also tested the GTD for months, and still didnt beat the older Veterans, now you can imagine what happens when the new Generation of Eurocars come out at the ring.
@@frederickcook87 I know, its all about marketing recently for american brands, chevy does that with the new Corvette too, loudmouthy about beating the Euros with no result lol. Missing the times when it was just a friendly competition.
Demonic sound , this AMG is just a beast , brute force all the way 🏁
Would love to see same lap in full summer heat
Hot track = slower pace
@@everythinggaming7938 it's Germany not Abu Dhabi
@@jhlaxbro27 it does not matter hotter temps are bad for track times
@@everythinggaming7938 oh really and what is the reason for that? so I can give you a hundred reasons why your lap time would be better in warmer conditions
@@everythinggaming7938 warm tracks def got better times bro, this was a damp cold track in November
The GTD isn't touching that time. EVER.
GTD was insanely overhyped!
6:48 is the time too compare it with the GTD
Now can the GTD team said they didn't have the ideal condition and they can do better... 10sec better? I don't think so
@@cooleb Maro is an insane beast. IMHO Dirk can't match Maro even if he were a passenger in same car! Ford needs a driver on this level if they want the lap time. As a person who has a GTD allocation I don't buy into the track conditions excuse. Something else was up, be that driver or car. I believe this was the reason for the second attempt that got rained out.
10 secs is huge delta.
The difference is that the GTD came from the Mustang GT3 that is not even purpose built for the Nordschleife. Heck, they didn't even race in the 24hr Nurburgring. The Mercedes, BMW and the Porsches and all of the German cars are purpose built for the Nordschleife and driving there on a daily basis. Ford is a car brand that didn't set foot much in the Nordschleife on a daily basis, its a massive achievement. The Ford are the young guy rookie in the Nurburgring Nordschleife and is getting closer to the Old boys veterans of the Nordschleife.
If Ford call KW and replace the Multimatic suspension it will. No disrespect to Multimatic.
Track wasnt completely perfect, it wasnt a hot summer day.. and it still did 6:43!!
believe me: Nobody wants a hot summer day!!! Power would be down/less, and maybe even Tyre Temps at the end a bit high.
The GT2RS MR lap in 2021 was in ideal conditions.
Perfect lap time, i think no one can beat it after this
The insanity of this entire thing is that this a front engine - rear drive car and I believe it was the first of it's kind to achieve sub 7's
Wrong. It's a front mid engine. Open the hood and you'll realise how far behind the front axle the engine actually starts. Furthermore the gearbox is in the back which further improves weight distribution. The GT had a very good weight distribution and wasn't overly heavy. Great car to have.
Looks a little damp to me. Interesting
u should say that this isnt a new record
this was done at the end of 2020
but i wonder how they did it... i mean it was cold and a bit damp, wasnt it?
The perfect conditions are somewhere between 15 and 20 degrees as far as i know.. and dry of course
they could probabaly make a 6:40 flat if the conditions are right
especially if they use modern 2024 tires
Exactly , when I saw him taking the curb right after foxhole I was like this is surely old.
the temperature was ~7C !!!! it's in the press release.
" outside temperature of 44.6 degrees Fahrenheit and 50 degrees Fahrenheit on the asphalt"
Mercedes really fcked up the marketing of this beast. Its like they didnt care anymore about it.
To put this lap into perspective, GTD had temperatures around 20 degrees on August 07, 2024 at around 7pm and the track was dry.
easy to drive too...full throttle out the corner and no slipping
America could never build a car like this.
Sure they could. Who do you think American people came from?
America doesn’t have a powerhouse of engineering that is AMG. We are about 20 years behind lol
we are the furthest ahead in tech around the world. we just use it in military instead of passenger vehicles
@@chabweezy9905 Yet Germany builds the best tanks, and America went to the moon because of a German.
@@freakattack9616facts
911 Boys are going to have a hard time accepting that time😂
Nah, 911s are still king, this is a beast tho.
@@senadhasanbasic260still can’t beat the amg black series without modifying
@@AutoCosmeticaCarCare-wl3dd MR kit isnt a mod
@senadhasanbasic260 LOL! Like I said 911 fan boy^ the time speaks for it's itself. Second best isnt bad, but for AMG it's the best or nothing lol if porsche is king then Benz is God
@@jhlaxbro27 i know Amg is the best but because of the One, not this car. This is still a beast
I want to see a full blown hotlap in the c8 z07 and ZR1 . Tire warmers, correct psi, full commitment.
It’s bad when the ford guys make excuse after excuse for that heavy overhyped shitbox on gtd videos but to come here with excuses too is just ridiculous 😂😂😂
Stick to pickup trucks… have your CEO/fanbase shut their damn mouths and keep crashing into crowds at Cars&Coffee 😂
😂
Those crowdjokes never get old. Always a new variant of them
@@artansadiki3244 I do what I can do when I can do it 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Well unfortunately for us, they listened to you. in america Ford has discontinued every vehicle that isn't a truck/suv except the mustang. same with chevy and the corvette. the reason why they get so much hype is because it's the ONLY thing American car enthusiasts can even root for, we have no other options.
Wow, she is on another level.
She????
@ referring to the car of course (men typically refer to vehicles they admire as she).
taking the turn at 308kmh without breaking, 😮
Imagine all these road cars on real slicks would be even faster. If I had money like that that’s all I would run on the track
Wow, this older front engine Benz just made the Mercedes AMG One look pretty damn slow around this track.....along with a slew of other brand new machines.....impressive, Benz learns a lot from GT racing this model.
It’s an old video but more importantly it’s bloody damp as well that things got another 10 seconds in it easily
Absolutely impressive - also taking into consideration partial wet track 😮
F*ck, I'm reading the comments with the voice of Toto in my head🤦♂
Front mid engine with 2 seater look better than the new one 2+2 911 wannabe
This is what the Ford Mustang GTD needs to be aiming at 6.48 on the 20.8 k lap has to be the aim.
RWD FR platformed car exactly the same as the Ford this black series is it’s real competition.
And this is older, and done on worse conditions.
It's a race car just like the Ford GTD thing. Good luck finding one.
@@ezpz4659 its easily daily driveable. Thats the best part about this car.
Man my beloved GTD is off pace. We need Adrian Newey. And I can barely see the track in the video. Excellent driver.
Wow, faster than Vittel with his GT2MR for almost 2 secs
Vittel only do BTG lap Times nowhere near this lap record
This lap was done in winter with 7 degree C temp, far from ideal and clearly the track wasn't dry at all. With Cup 2R's it's not ideal - AMG really need to do redo the lap in slightly warmer conditions 15 degrees or so, and completely dry track. Easy 5-7s gain
this was 2020 lol
Amazing driving skill my man,i could do that and in first corner straight to the wall lol....
Well done!!
This time was from 2020 and the Ford Mustang GTD with a price tag of $325,000 can’t even come close to that old Merc..come on ford
wow faster than the new gt3rs
6 seconds
true.. but more expensive and with 230 extra hp
this car has 730 hp and the GT2 RS with "just" 700 hp is 4.8 seconds faster
i wish Mercedes comes back with a newer version and newer tires in better conditions
i think they can beat the old GT2 RS MR
@@pedro_peyote indeed
@@Kart-sl2qqUmm no, about a second or so.
@@pedro_peyoteThey won't come back because it would mean nothing to them as production have ended for this car and the AMG One now holds the production car lap record at Nordschleife.
They should have a wheel cam to ensure they are CUP2 tires not some full racing slick…
4yr Old video.
I’m a red blooded American but I’d take the AMG over the ford GTD in a heartbeat. No hesitation. If I want a performance car it’s more than likely going to be German just like my guns (H&K superiority)
Most american comment here with the guns 😂
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Bmw probably could do that too, but they don't want to.😢😢😢
When was this done? Why under such suboptimal conditions again?
Its an old video.
November 4, 2020
Its a shame they filmed the in car action on a nokia 3210
In the words of NBA Jam, is it the shoes?
真快😊但感觉在最后的几个弯道里，估计是因为轮胎内压太高，发挥的不是很好。
所以可以预想，这台车竟然还可以跑得更快。
А из этого Мерса можно ещё вытянуть 150 200 кг о это будет интересно титан карбон
So it REALLY did a 6:48!! Look where the stop watch starts and finishes people.. 🙄😏
No.
@ no wonder y’all so delusional 😣
Really no 4k?
dont like the sound but fast
I think if Ford has a much better driver, the GTD can get close to it’s German rivals but this AMG GT BS and GT3RS are superior than the Mustang.
A una media cercana a 180km/h.
6:48 vs 6:57 is a big gap so in time let’s see how close the GTD can get to the time
The difference is that the GTD came from the Mustang GT3 that is not even purpose built for the Nordschleife. Heck, they didn't even race in the 24hr Nurburgring. The Mercedes, BMW and the Porsches and all of the German cars are purpose built for the Nordschleife and driving there on a daily basis. Ford is a car brand that didn't set foot much in the Nordschleife on a daily basis, its a massive achievement. The Ford are the young guy rookie in the Nurburgring Nordschleife and is getting closer to the Old boys veterans of the Nordschleife.
@@Vergil20000 GTD is a street legal race car. AMG BS is not even close.
GTD downforce is from another world. It's even more than GT3 RS.
GTD should beat all of them easily, especially GT3RS. GTD has 300hp more!!
@@Vergil20000 Fordies were frothing at the mouth over this "record". Merc said go and sit down. cry more ...
@@Vergil20000Sounds like copium, considering a normal track magazine test of the Ferrari 296Gtb was already just a second slower then the official record run from the GTD. And Ferrari doesnt test often at the ring, less then Ford. So......whats the next excuse
@valerystoichkov7429 when was Ford last participated in the Nordschleife races? Oh yeah it was back then 1960s. When was Ferrari last participated in the Nordschleife races? Oh yeah it was back then 2024. See that difference? Ferrari has been in Nurburgring Nordschleife events since 2010s until today with their GT3 cars. “And Ferrari doesn’t test often in the ring?” That made me laugh, they have the complete knowledge of that track where the Ford does not.
So tell me, why would anyone spend $300k on a ford mustang?
Real engine sound. Desire for a Ford badge. More special (even if not as fast). Can't think of any other reason.
@@mitchellsteindlerNo one wants a Ford Badge over an Amg lol.
@@mitchellsteindlerA Ford more special then a Black series Amg? 😂
@valerystoichkov7429 you ever been to the united states?
@thepetrolman4879 yeah...for sure it is. Essentially bespoke chassis, bespoke suspension, bespoke aero. The black series is just a modified version of a much better base car. Pretty obvious that the mustang gtd is more special. It has nothing to do with being a ford though.
Мустанг бы поехал вот только аэродинамика страдает в угоду узнаваемости да у него КПП на задней оси в угоду баланса но парусность и он высокий
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Ford……. 🤣 not even close.
I see a lot of shade on American manufacturers and honestly I’m offended lmao the zr1 is inbound mfs. mic drop
Imagine a track that been the milestone for a sucess race street car models which 90% are located in Germany. Now imagine the American brands with there rear happy tree hugging mustang taking a try and already getting sub 7.. amd ppl bragging about how bad it is...😂😂😂 American bout to take yall throne
You got it wrong.
Ford and Multimatic trying to break a 500hp Porsche in the most extreme road legal Ford ever and cant do it. America aint shit when it comes to cars, buddy. Wont change, ever.
No one copes harder then Americans 😂
Ford should have thought about the Mustang's crowd chasing credentials instead of thinking it can chase lap times set by comparable European cars at Nordschleife. They are the one's who said they will beat the Europeans at their own turf, didn't they?
@powerslider30477 😂😂😂😂😂