I was so happy during M Countdown when the crowd went crazy during his part in "Bona Bona". The best way to drown out hate is with numbers and the people of France showed it that night, I just hope it reached him.
as a gay fan it's not homophobic that he said he's not comfortable to act in something that is too much for him. Its a boundary and treasure and him have showed respect for the lgtbtq community. a person can have boundaries. body shaming someone you don't like is absolutely disgusting even if he gained weight it is none of your business.
Calling it weird straight up but then making profit by making BL content is just insane. You clearly are a privileged western gay that never lived in a society where we are still not able to freely love and feel safe.
@@carolinem7968I see where you’re coming from, he worded it wrongly but you have to understand that what he said was not meant in a offensive nor bad way. There has been multiple times where he has showed his support for the lgbtq community but people like you would ignore it and just consume what the media says.
The amount of people who I’ve seen hate on haruto is honestly disgusting and the amount of times I’ve seen them say “I don’t care about what he said, I still hate him” this goes to show that y’all don’t care about this situation nor care about the lgbtq community. Y’all haters need to stop weaponizing the lgbtq community to get your hate across to someone who clearly didn’t meant what he said. I’m bisexual and part of the gay community, I was not offended for what he said, y’all need to stop making a big deal out of this because not only did y’all drag him, sent death threats, bullied him, body shamed him, and mocked him but also went as far by throwing hate comments on his wevearse lives. I could and never will take kpop stans seriously y’all are so disgusting and pathetic. leave haruto alone
He's been through a lot....how come people don't think idols as humans seriously...i worry abt Ruto's mental health seriously i hope the haters grow up....love u ruto💙 fighting ✊🏻
I never regret stanning treasure or having Haruto as my bias. My innocent boy did not do anything wrong, ppl are too sensitive and ruthless these days 😢
This makes me so angry. The homophobic allegations are bad enough given that he CLEARLY didn't mean it that way; but bullying him over his face seeming more round in ONE photo is vile. Body shaming anybody - regardless of size - is absolutely disgusting. It's not funny or cute to jump on a hate train and type cruel comments just for your "teehee" moment. You aren't a baddie, you aren't cute, you aren't funny. You are TRASH if you treat another human being that way, either to their face or online! Words have ACTUAL consequences. Y'all really forced him into an unhealthy diet that could have major consequences on his long term health. He's at an age where he needs to eat a lot, but noooo y'all want this kid to starve. Stop body shaming people and jumping to conclusions without calmly checking the facts for yourself!!!
the amount of bullying haruto has recieved over a situation that was blown the FUCK out of context is disgusting. I genuinely hope for his own sake he stays off social media because clearly, the comments are starting to affect him.
God how can people be so ruthless on someone it's freaking terrible and pathetic . They don't care about how can this affect people's mental health and leading them into depression, eating disorder to something more worse. I feel really sorry for Haruto for what's happening to him. I hope people starts becoming less pathetic by not hating someone and caring about their emotions.
The hypocrisy is too much in fandoms tbh..peaple deliberately attacked him..body shaming is so low and disgusting esp to idols knowing how kpop industry is
I'm a fan of TREASURE. Up to this date, I still cry thinking about how the whole KPOP community took that 7 second clip out of context and bullied him ON HIS BIRTHDAY. In fact that clip was close to 7 months old (AUGUST 2022), and it resurfaced on HIS BIRTHDAY MONTH APRIL 2023, just to play a part in a petty, silly fan war between TREASURE and ENHYPEN fandoms. As always the obvious troll accounts and other fandoms pushed this false narrative just to get on the hate train against a KPOP idol and situation got out of control. Netizens didn't want to listen to the explanation, even after countless clarifications from Koreans, global fans, the Queer community, LGBTQ Community who understood Haruto's situation; what he actually meant, but people still up to this date, drag him with the term homophobia just to throw hate for no specific reason. He was 18 when this happened, he's a young idol and everyone ruined his career when he was at his peak! What was the reason? Where does this hate comes from? Are you that miserable in real life to throw hate on someone just to make the idols you support shine? Just like everyone else, he worked hard all his life to get to where he is right now. I'm not saying this because I am a fan of TREASURE, but there are so many instances in real life where so many people, in the industry and outside the industry, including genuine fans who have mentioned how nice he is as a person. When will the hate stop? This unfair treatment needs to stop! I hope everyone can be smart about what needs to be believed in the internet. Imagine you in that spot, how would you feel! Haruto, please don't ever forget and I hope you know, there are so many people who support you, defend you and love you because you yourself, without you knowing have actually saved us. I believe in karma, and I know nothing will go right for them in this life or the lives after for what they did to this young kid, and I also believe that HE WILL SHINE MORE THAN ANYONE IN THE FUTURE. YOUR FUTURE WILL BE SO SUCCESSFUL AND MILLIONS, IN FACT BILLIONS OF PEOPLE WILL LOVE YOU, SUPPORT YOU AND BE THERE FOR YOU IN THE FUTURE.
To the person who said "if he was a female idol" HE IS A MALE IDOL BUT STILL GOT HATED PLUS!!!!!!! HE IS STARTING TO GET FAT OR WHATSOEVER DOESN'T MEAN THAT HE IS UNHEALTHY AND ITS HIS CHOICE HE IS AN ADULT NOW
I find it crazy kpoppies never care about, and even ignore, Treasure in the kpop industry until of couse they find something they can twist into a scandal and hate on the boys for. Really those boys deserve better 🙄
@@candylitc I mean if he feels something is uncomfortable for him then that's weird right, and he said he respects BL but he's uncomfortable doing this kinda drama with his members. If I was in his place I would be uncomfortable too, that's why I said he's right.
Okay!!!! He only said that it would be weird but then he said bromance was okay as long as it's them and he also said that non of the rumours was true okay!!!! People need to get a life and let the k-pop idols breathe
I really hate everyone for ruining this boy and im saying this as a bi person. I heard that those rumors have been debunked. They really don't give a damn about homophobia and it breaks my heart. They just want to hate on that kid. Some people are pretty disgusting, i just cant with them. There is nothing worse than being punished for the crimes someone didn't commit.
@@dealuzurriaga9781 did you not even bother to watch this video or... His words were purposefully twisted and mis construed to get a soundbite out of him He quickly corrected what he meant and people like you still persecute him is beyond ridiculous. There are actual homophobic/transphobic people out there actually harming and doing deplorable things to people who want to live their life normally and this shittily translated clip is what you are focused on. Kookielit forgot to add where he said in Japanese a couple months prior " Fall in love and marry the person you love whether that be a man or a woman" to a female fan during his birthday stream. and Also during the fanmeet in Japan where he clarifies the rumors about him being a homophobe aren't true and implying that YG is taking legal action against the original rumor starter for defamation hence why he was late to the fanmeeting. As a pansexual person who was actually bullied and abused by homophobes growing up, I'm sick of seeing this shit.
@dealuzurriaga9781 people like you are disgusting. Homophobia isn't a joke, yet you throw it around so casually. The clip has already been retranslated by a nonfan that has PROVEN it was misinterpreted and out of context. But yall just want to ignore the evidence you are given. How can you watch this video and be so heartless. Gtfo off rhe internet. Can't you see your words have consequences???
@@dealuzurriaga9781maybe use your brain and look into the full clip. there's literally no reason to be so nasty towards a young man this is why idols are depressed. he literally did nothing wrong and y'all need to stop being toxic and jump to conclusions.
As a Japanese person, I want to add some context that the LGBTQ discussion in Japan is not as prominent as in the west. On a fundamental level, Japan doesn’t have a religious/cultural background that views homosexuality as sinful or wrong, and therefore, the counter narrative of “accepting the LGBTQ community” and “it being socially taboo to say you don’t feel comfortable with it” isn’t as widely acknowledged either. I think many Japanese people have a “you do what you want in private” attitude (I’m not saying there aren’t conservatives who oppose same sex marriage and rights activists who push for equal rights because there are, but comparatively speaking, it’s not a topic that gets media/advertising/political exposure to the same degree that it does in the west). I believe Haruto had zero intention of commenting about the “community” because talking about sexual orientation in the Japanese context is so often just simply about personal preference and not about a larger political/social issue. Imagine someone saying tongue piercings are bit weird and how non-political that would be. I hope the people judging him can be mindful of their own cultural biases. Also, not to mention that he was taking about dramas and not real life.
We live in a time when you can be cancelled for something that can be misinterpreted and no apology or clarification will satisfy a toxic culture of netizens whose only goal is to tear someone the don't like down. Haruto admitted that he didn't mean it like that and it made no difference. If anything, the hate got worse! I feel so sorry for Kpop idols who go through this. They give up everything to debut and work so hard only to be defined for one misinterpreted statement or action. I respect Kpop idols so much more after seeing all they go through!😢
Haruto is my bias in TREASURE since day 1. He is a honest and confident person. As a young 16 old girl, I wouldn't feel comfortable kissing anyone, even with the same gender. I mean, sure pecks, and all. But at the same time, there are boundaries when it comes to things like this. Haruto was setting boundaries when it comes to romance or dramas in acting and that's what people need to understand. People are ruthless and cruel! He don't need to say sorry for what he said.
im so worried about him, Ever since Sulli passed away cause of all hate she got, Im just scared it might happen to other idols as well. I never forgave and never will forgive netizens for what they did to sulli, and if we suddenly get a post from yg about Haruto passing away. I swear i'm going to track all of those stupid people down.
It’s messed up how people think it’s okay to attack and bully people online. Haruto did nothing to warrant all this hate. People always take things out of context and only hear what it is they want to hear.
Yes! I'm so glad you made this vid cuz even tho Im not a Ruto biased, he's still important to treasure and it hurts my heart to see him criticised for nothing! He already has enough on his plate😓😢fighting Ruto💖💖💖
This people who so into this thing are funny we are forces to agree with them to be the same as them. And if someone like Haruto as straight man said he didn't feel comfortable with that kind of act they twisted it by saying he's homophobic. Haters are stupid
New generations are scary. They insult idols who did BL or might be gay, then they insult ones who wouldn’t. I can’t… I m gay and I don’t mind what he said.
my baby was just setting boundaries. he's allowed to be uncomfortable. goodbye he's straight and isn't comfortable being shipped with his members and there's literally nothing wrong wirh that?? plus he was a minor when this clip first came out and people are so toxic and nasty to not understand the whole thing and use their brains before jumping to conclusions. the kpop fandom is so stupid. like people say don't bully others, but its okay to bully haruto. the fatshaming, death threats, and just the hate he gets is ridiculous. he's so young and such a sweetheart and he's so kind and polite and he doesn't deserve this. i love him and support him no matter what.
Sorry to say this but I recently saw a account in tiktok making hate videos about Treasure. (and the oener of the account is a moa and a engene. I don’t have anything against TXT/Enhypen ). The comment section of those videos are really disgusting. They were saying really bad things about Treasure by labelling the whole group as homophobic. I don't have any other social media accounts so I never knew that they were getting this much hate because of this single incident. Also I think Haruto knows that some teumes are shipping him with Junkyu a lot. ( not in brotherly way more like in a romantic way)And he must have felt really uncomfortable about that. ( I think this is one of the reasons for the statement he said)Fans should stop these whole shipping thing like I have seen many other idols have try to distance themselves from each other because of these delusional fans.
Frrr. He himself said that he is uncomfortable with it but still some fans ships him in romantic way is seriously disgusting me. So we can clearly see he is straight. They even make video about the jealous analysing sh1ts. How dumb fans are these days.
We Teumes aren't sad that Ruto gain weight it doesn't matter it's his choice, his life, his wish all me and the other teumes will support them that's for sure but thanks to the useless haters and netizens he is on diet WE CAN'T LET THE IDOLS DO WHATEVER WE WANT OKAY!!! THEY ALSO HAVE A LIFE I AM SAYING THIS FOR ALL THE IDOLS WE CANT TREAT THEM LIKE A SHIT! THEY ARE HUMANS TOO WE NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON INSIDE THEIR MIND THEY MIGHT BE STRUGGLING TOO SO PLEASE PLEASE TO WHO EVER IS READING THIS BEFORE YOU HATE THEM THINK ABOUT HOW THEY MUST BE STRUGGLING TOO PLEASE
I didn’t see anything wrong with what Haruto said. As a straight woman I wouldn’t feel comfortable kissing another woman or any romantic acting. People are taking it too personal and too far. He didn’t even mean it in a bad way too. Edit: I see y’alls argument In the comments. No I don’t Stan him or his group. He said something that he shouldn’t have said regardless whether he supports it or not. At the end of the day, he is human. He let something slip and is probably remorseful. As long he doesn’t do it again, we should give him the benefit of the doubt.
In what context could he mean it in a good way? He is an idol with a fanbase of people that look up at him and many of them could be gay, imagine being said that your preferences that makes you you are weird. He should be aware of what he says and being straight and being gay different things. They mean different to different people. Obviously you wouldn't feel comfortable kissing other women but gay people would also feel uncomfortable kissing the opposite sex. He needs to be held accountable for his actions but not harassed. Which is what is happening to him right now. Netizens take it too far in an unfair and harsh manner which is inexcusable but so are haruto's words.
@@kimiricci crazy thing is people are forcing him to do something he isn’t comfortable with. He is fine with bromance but he wouldn’t do actual BL. Didn’t know idols don’t have any say of what they aren’t comfortable with. Y’all are taking this way out of im context and aren’t giving him the benefit of the doubt. Just as you said straight people wouldn’t be comfortable doing gay stuff as gay people wouldn’t be comfortable doing straight stuff.
Not y'all defending him when he was clearly in the wrong, He literally said man and man is weird, he literally could have said anything else except for those hurtful words, even his members knew he said the wrong thing and tried to cut him off, anyway he's very young and I hope he learns from his mistakes and becomes a better person.
This video clip didn't mention how Haruto is polite, considerate, selfless, how he is normal weight and handsome in next day fan meeting after bad angle photo from airport and how his fans are so loyal, supportive , love and prorect him because they know Haters always spread false informations about Haruto with jelaousy.The title and timing of video is questionable 🤔
very grateful that you made this video and brought this issue to light but i wish you hadn’t written “ruined” him in your title. neither haruto nor his career is ruined, he has a long way to go! please dont make it seem like its over for him, our boy is stronger than anyone and he has his members and us teumes supporting him! he will shine brighter than ever! fuck the haters. Edit : thank you for changing the title
They should stop the bullying and harassment of the idols, because it can make them uncomfortable and depressed, but it also can make them feel bad about themselves and have a low self-esteem. I have seen this happen before and it’s not a nice thing for people to deal with. The country that I live in (this was in a town where I visit from time to time) two girls in the girls high school had committed sxxcide, because they were bullied.
If he doesn't like LGBTQ than he doesn't. Who are those gay/lesbian people to comment on it?🙄 If you like it it's your choice and if he doesn't like it than it's totally his choice and you (gays, lesbian) can't say anything about it. If we straight can't force you to be straight than you can't force a straight man to become comfortable with gay things! Faltu people's 🙄
i really wanna see more news about 2nd gen or 3rd gen kpop. Since the 4th gen is out its all about them and how much Netizens complain about all the time. While its most of the time a waste of time when people complain about kpop groups and what they shouldnt do. People are bored and thats the real reason why they are doing this. they dont have any hobbies and dont give them peace. Just let them live their lives.
Geez, netizens can be so cruel and heartless on any idol it's pathetic if you ask me. They don't care about how the scandals they started effects an idol's mentality or worse causes said idol to leave his or her group, just so they can laugh at the true victim online which is just downright disgusting and horrible. Making mistakes is completely normal in everyday life and as humans we apologize for our mistakes and try to be better but in netizens case any mistakes made by a idol no matter their age is seen as a direct insult to them and they will use this to ruin someone's career while playing the victim card when they are caught lying through their teeth.
He's not homophobic by saying a man and a man is weird. Anything you're not used to is going to be weird at first. Also, when it comes to him saying "crosses the line".... because I'm an actor, if a major aspect in a role makes you uncomfortable, you should either not take on the project or open your mind to pushing through your uncomfortable space. Regardless, you should never be forced or force yourself to do something you're not 100% about.
Actually the clip was misinterpreted. A non fan later translated the clip towards the day of Mcountdown in France, when qntis threatened a black ocean for TREASURE as a whole. It was translated to be harsh, and out of context. But some people blindly continue their hate without listening to evidence
thank u so much for making this video :(( it really made me cry a lot for this 8 mins well explained video, cuz we’ve been fighting for months now, and clearly the netizenz do not care abt the context but they just wanted to hate him. it hurts a lot as a fan to see a lot of hate and to know that he sees it and it affected him too much :(( hope that non fans will dive more by watching this video.
That one comment made me angry "He gained weight, he doesnt look healthy" as if they give a s*** if he's healthy, they would praise him for "taking care of himself" if he was very thin and underweight
Its so dumb to say someones homophobic just because he doesnt want to film a BL drama or idk kiss someone of the same gender n stuff. Like i have LHBTQ firends, an i love ans support them. But i cant imagine a relationship with the same gender myself either. that has nothing to do with homophobic. But the internet is just dumb.
Its funny that they cannot move on last year" out of context 6 seconds short video clip" made and spread by Haters intentionally on Haruto's Birthday. Haters has been crying by bringing up this last year short clip again and again just to get views and hate.Until when will they make long article about that short misleading one video clip? I feel sorry for Haters.
Everybody hating on him are hypocrite so you heard when he said a man and a man is a little bit weird for him but did not hear when he said he didn't mean it in a bad way
If he is straight of course it would feel weird for him to consider being in a BL romantic comedy and having to kiss another man. Not every straight person is comfortable with that, especially since he does not have much acting experience. I am sure plenty of gay people would feel weird to kiss someone of the opposite sex in a move 😂😂😂😂 its a normal feeling for a person to have.
3:16 if it were HIM starring in the drama which was literally the context then yes, not ‘actually gay’ (kissing and stuff like that) because of course someone straight is going to feel uncomfortable doing that? i’ve supported the LGBTQ community all my life but i’m straight, i also wouldn’t want to kiss someone the same gender as me? like…?
Just imagine you being a straight person and someone ships you with someone of same gender and make edits and posting it on social media what would you do to justify yourself that you don't like the idea of it ?
The way he word it was wrong ig that's what triggered the LGBT+ community yk,he could have said sth like "I personally don't like being shipped with any of the members cuz it makes my relationship with them awkward" idk anything else.The dude generalized it and so that's why he sounded kinda homophobic. Now it's their decision If they are gonna still stan the group or not but imo all that hate he's receiving is unnecessary
@iamconfusion77 The clip was harshly translated and cut short by an anti. A new version has been circulating that literally proves he didn't say BL is weird. It was all a set up and it works. Another translation can be found oh Twitter. It was posted by an anti on his birthday. No credibility
im not even a fan and mind u im gay, when this took place i saw the clip and thought it wasn't as bad as people made it to be. and, those who were hating, majority of them weren't even in the lgbtq+ community to begin with. they jst needed a punch bag they could hate and unfortunately it happened to be haruto
As a gay guy I think what happened is that he didn't know how to express himself and people misinterpreted what he said but I don't believe he's homophobic. People need to give him a break after all he's just a kid.
Okay first of all he is not a kid,he isn't a 12 yrs old kid or something he is a freaking adult!!! And second of all if he didn't knew how to express it then at the first point he shouldn't have expressed his views on that. And lastly I'm gay top myself,wbu?
Bruh he didn't say anything wrong he just said he is not comfortable being Shipped with the members and is weird and people who are gay are telling that he is not wrong then why do you guys have a problem you guys just need reason to hate someone 🙄❤️
@@SkyFWWOhe meant that he found it weird that people were shipping him and his members and that it made him uncomfortable, which is understandable. He’s aloud to feel uncomfortable with that but that doesn’t mean he’s homophobic.
@@tharntypesdaughter he's 19 years old he's a teenager not an adult. He didn't have any bad intentions he was just saying how he feels like I said he could've expressed a little bit better but he didn't mean to offend anyone. I'm bottom, why do you ask?
All the person who brings the old videos back needs a therapist because he or she makes it look like Haruto is a homophobic.....but he said bromance was fine
Yup i understand his point of view. Its like being gay then kissing a straight woman or a lesbian kissing a straight man. Im sure they would also feel uncomfortable. People are only thinking about themselves how about think about other people.
As a straight person like haruto I'd be highly uncomfortable doing any lgbtq acting and that doesn't mean i disrespect lgbtq people Also knowing haruto is already ship with one of his group members romantically and he probably knows it making him even more uncomfortable Now those fans should know their boundaries and stop romanticising brotherhood
Them netizens are too quick to judge and should spend more time improving themselves. It seems that most of those mean people online just want to HATE-- the defense mechanism of insecure ones. 😂
I too support the idea, but im not part of the community. Its my choice.... and i feel like most of the idols you see to do the same(except some), and some even do things as fan service, coz when i've seen many male idols when asked seriously abt ideal types/ relations use the term "Girl/Women" to describe the person... You can support a community & their rights, but no one force you to get into it... And some kpop fans really hate when the male idols tell/show interest in women, they'll do everything to prove "Oh No He isnt Straight", they dont have problem shipping their favs with same group members, but if its a female idol booommmmmm
They just criticized Haruto because they cannot have what Haruto already had. Leave the guy alone. He is just to honest of what he thinks. Netizens never grew up on their thoughts and still act hypocrites, they threw hate on you with the slightest flaw but they probable looked like a sad potato in real life. 🤷🏻♀️
He don't deserve this much hate I'm feeling so bad and we can clearly see he has no bad intention to say anything like that and everyone have change opinions he might felt uncomfortable while filming it that's why he said it can he have this much right to say what he is thinking I don't know why they making so much big deal out of it
I don't think he was being homophobic or anything, not when especially they have a lot of international fans. He probably meant that it would be weird between members, not genders. I think it was a misunderstanding. But we all know toxic people like to believe what they want to. And we should respect everyone's sexual orientation, also people who are heterosexual. He may be uncomfortable with that type of acting personally.
@@cewlwithyew " I don't mean it that way" and Yada Yada yaada. Which you purposely left out. Why don't you go and watch the whole live yourself? How toxic LGBT is towards straight people is mind blowing to me.
I'm a straight and i have two friends who are gay. And they love each other but one of them like me lot , you can say she also love me but it's weird and uncomfortable for me if i had to say how i truly feel. But i never hated them, i have support them as always. I have good terms with both of them. Even if it's weird for me there are acceptances for that. I guess that's how haruto's also feel. I never said i don't like them or i hate them. Rather i support them, but that doesn't mean i will also become a gay to support them or i would be comfortable to show affection the same way they do to each other. That's the boundaries. That's the uncomfortable things. But that's personal but that doesn't mean i hate them. If it was all okay there wouldn't be any gender differences. There would've be anything called straight gay lesbian. All would be same. It's all about accepting and supporting. Honestly netizens themselves are not as pure now a days they've become a community of bully.
Tbh it’s sad that lgbt+ people can be mean to straight and it’s normalised but when it’s a slight thing like what haruto said towards boyxboy suddenly it’s homophobic he clearly was talking about HIM that HE wouldn’t be comfortable and that it would be weird what’s so wrong in that? Is he forced to like it? my god (when it’s not homophobic) and everyone hates him for it (and yes I am lgbt+ don’t try to come at me)
Bruh its absolutely his opinion and his point of view. What is wrong with these people?!?! Not everyone supports lgbtq accept that. You can’t literally go and hate someone just because they aren’t comfortable with bl. LEARN TO RESPECT SOMEONE’S OPINION
I've never been a fan of treasure since I prefer listening to female artists since as a girl it makes me more comfortable but I've been seeing the comments circulating around, it's not fair to Haruto he didn't do anything wrong and netizens are absolutely disgusting for their conduct following the initial controversy. At the end of the day we don't know 100% of everything behind the scenes or Haruto's thoughts but to go around to parade and actively promote hate and vile behaviour is completely unacceptable regardless of anybody's actions.
I dont get why these fans even bother arguing🙄 silence is the best weapon in these cases. We know what he meant us REAL fans are still gonna support him and that should be the end of it. Yall keep dragging it on by replying continuously to the haters instead of just ignoring it.
This is one of the huge problem with TREASURE... The uncanny hate they recieve from the kpop stans and general public. One day they are labeled irrelevant, unfamous, losers... But one small issue/out of context moment and people out here judging them from head to toe / in and out as if they knew them personally?! Like, so what if he gained weight you don't even see him everyday because you don't stan him, why bother talking about someone "irrelevant"? Haters really can't decide lol. Some might think this is having a victim mentality but it's true, and it affected not just him but also most of the fandom. Sometimes I'm convinced that TREASURE is actually more famous than what is projected but some people are just silently waiting for some issue or drama instead of appreciating their music, performances, and good attitude. KPOP community is scary because it can indeed boost an idol's status from little things (like being viral for memes or by posting a simple shirtless pic, baamm suddenly everybody loves you...) BUT they can also devastate you to the core by escalating simple things negatively like what they did to Haruto. This isn't the first time, but I hope there won't be another time when KPOPPERS would preach about; "be kind to everyone" "You don't know what they are going through" "We shouldn't judge" "We lost another pure soul"
I know exactly who wrote and spread that post on twitter(X). I'm sorry to say this but it was an Engene. It was during that time that Enhypen and Treasure is always fighting, until now of course. But the exact post you showed is the same engen person I remembered. There were also loona fans who just because loona is literally at a disbandment stage and they got nothing to do attacking le serrafim as well and treasure. (Don't try to ask me why I included loona, because loona fans are about gay topics as always and they come up everywhere saying things like they hate homophobic people or something. It's always a loona fan.)
Believing a relationship should be between a man and a woman is not homophobic if he was not bashing gay people or bullying them because of their sexuality. Sure his choice of words were questionable but not homophobia
I'm no fan of treasure, Nor any other boy group. But like what if he gains weight? Just simply being skinny doesnt make you look good either. I think from that photo it might be just poor choice of outfit, but other than that he actually better looking?
It's always the non fans who has something to say as if they are actually part of the society when they obviously aren't even paying taxes being homeless and doing nothing but sit on their computers or something
He said "Manxman is weird" in a drama cause the other member mentioned "Beloved summer" which was played by man and a woman , thats why he said "manxman is weird" and added he didn't mean it like that, he didn't say that he didn't like it But it got cut off
Here: 💎 Talking about romcom drama ruto asked the other members isn't " IT'S OKAY THAT FRIENDSHIP" is romcom too? (talking about their webdrama) ... :beloved summer ruto: i like it but "manxman is weird" (cause beloved summer was played by man and woman ) after that he said "i didn't mean it like that , i didn't say i didn't like it " but got cut off, He added "Just don't crossed the line" ( he probably means " no kissing")
Forcing a straight guy in his teenage years to play in a gay drama for a fan service is a form of sexual pressure. It’s disgusting.
They want every male and female idol to do that so they can live out their sick fantasies
You're right
Nowadays people take LGBT support too far that they wish to see straight people acting gay
I was so happy during M Countdown when the crowd went crazy during his part in "Bona Bona". The best way to drown out hate is with numbers and the people of France showed it that night, I just hope it reached him.
He is just a precious human i still don’t know why people hate him
as a gay fan it's not homophobic that he said he's not comfortable to act in something that is too much for him. Its a boundary and treasure and him have showed respect for the lgtbtq community. a person can have boundaries. body shaming someone you don't like is absolutely disgusting even if he gained weight it is none of your business.
he straight up called homosexuality weird. like there's no other meaning for 이상해
I agree that if that's what he said then its fine but thats not what he said.
Calling it weird straight up but then making profit by making BL content is just insane. You clearly are a privileged western gay that never lived in a society where we are still not able to freely love and feel safe.
@@carolinem7968I get what you mean but he doesn't need to support it if he doesn't want to he shouldnt be forced to...
@@carolinem7968I see where you’re coming from, he worded it wrongly but you have to understand that what he said was not meant in a offensive nor bad way. There has been multiple times where he has showed his support for the lgbtq community but people like you would ignore it and just consume what the media says.
The amount of people who I’ve seen hate on haruto is honestly disgusting and the amount of times I’ve seen them say “I don’t care about what he said, I still hate him” this goes to show that y’all don’t care about this situation nor care about the lgbtq community. Y’all haters need to stop weaponizing the lgbtq community to get your hate across to someone who clearly didn’t meant what he said. I’m bisexual and part of the gay community, I was not offended for what he said, y’all need to stop making a big deal out of this because not only did y’all drag him, sent death threats, bullied him, body shamed him, and mocked him but also went as far by throwing hate comments on his wevearse lives. I could and never will take kpop stans seriously y’all are so disgusting and pathetic. leave haruto alone
He's been through a lot....how come people don't think idols as humans seriously...i worry abt Ruto's mental health seriously i hope the haters grow up....love u ruto💙 fighting ✊🏻
He s homophobic
I never regret stanning treasure or having Haruto as my bias. My innocent boy did not do anything wrong, ppl are too sensitive and ruthless these days 😢
This makes me so angry. The homophobic allegations are bad enough given that he CLEARLY didn't mean it that way; but bullying him over his face seeming more round in ONE photo is vile. Body shaming anybody - regardless of size - is absolutely disgusting. It's not funny or cute to jump on a hate train and type cruel comments just for your "teehee" moment. You aren't a baddie, you aren't cute, you aren't funny. You are TRASH if you treat another human being that way, either to their face or online! Words have ACTUAL consequences. Y'all really forced him into an unhealthy diet that could have major consequences on his long term health. He's at an age where he needs to eat a lot, but noooo y'all want this kid to starve. Stop body shaming people and jumping to conclusions without calmly checking the facts for yourself!!!
the amount of bullying haruto has recieved over a situation that was blown the FUCK out of context is disgusting. I genuinely hope for his own sake he stays off social media because clearly, the comments are starting to affect him.
God how can people be so ruthless on someone it's freaking terrible and pathetic . They don't care about how can this affect people's mental health and leading them into depression, eating disorder to something more worse. I feel really sorry for Haruto for what's happening to him. I hope people starts becoming less pathetic by not hating someone and caring about their emotions.
The hypocrisy is too much in fandoms tbh..peaple deliberately attacked him..body shaming is so low and disgusting esp to idols knowing how kpop industry is
I'm a fan of TREASURE. Up to this date, I still cry thinking about how the whole KPOP community took that 7 second clip out of context and bullied him ON HIS BIRTHDAY. In fact that clip was close to 7 months old (AUGUST 2022), and it resurfaced on HIS BIRTHDAY MONTH APRIL 2023, just to play a part in a petty, silly fan war between TREASURE and ENHYPEN fandoms. As always the obvious troll accounts and other fandoms pushed this false narrative just to get on the hate train against a KPOP idol and situation got out of control. Netizens didn't want to listen to the explanation, even after countless clarifications from Koreans, global fans, the Queer community, LGBTQ Community who understood Haruto's situation; what he actually meant, but people still up to this date, drag him with the term homophobia just to throw hate for no specific reason.
He was 18 when this happened, he's a young idol and everyone ruined his career when he was at his peak! What was the reason? Where does this hate comes from? Are you that miserable in real life to throw hate on someone just to make the idols you support shine? Just like everyone else, he worked hard all his life to get to where he is right now. I'm not saying this because I am a fan of TREASURE, but there are so many instances in real life where so many people, in the industry and outside the industry, including genuine fans who have mentioned how nice he is as a person. When will the hate stop?
This unfair treatment needs to stop! I hope everyone can be smart about what needs to be believed in the internet. Imagine you in that spot, how would you feel! Haruto, please don't ever forget and I hope you know, there are so many people who support you, defend you and love you because you yourself, without you knowing have actually saved us. I believe in karma, and I know nothing will go right for them in this life or the lives after for what they did to this young kid, and I also believe that HE WILL SHINE MORE THAN ANYONE IN THE FUTURE. YOUR FUTURE WILL BE SO SUCCESSFUL AND MILLIONS, IN FACT BILLIONS OF PEOPLE WILL LOVE YOU, SUPPORT YOU AND BE THERE FOR YOU IN THE FUTURE.
PREACHH THATS RIGHT
We stand with Haruto
This breaks my heart as a new fan 😭 But what u mentioned is real people are hating on treasure for unnecessary reasons. They don't deserve it at all.
@@xo89245 They're our treasure 💎💎.
@@DineshNingombam fr i love them 💎😭
To the person who said "if he was a female idol" HE IS A MALE IDOL BUT STILL GOT HATED PLUS!!!!!!! HE IS STARTING TO GET FAT OR WHATSOEVER DOESN'T MEAN THAT HE IS UNHEALTHY AND ITS HIS CHOICE HE IS AN ADULT NOW
I find it crazy kpoppies never care about, and even ignore, Treasure in the kpop industry until of couse they find something they can twist into a scandal and hate on the boys for. Really those boys deserve better 🙄
Haruto is right. Those people hating on him are just sick -
What do you mean right
@@candylitc I mean if he feels something is uncomfortable for him then that's weird right, and he said he respects BL but he's uncomfortable doing this kinda drama with his members. If I was in his place I would be uncomfortable too, that's why I said he's right.
Okay!!!! He only said that it would be weird but then he said bromance was okay as long as it's them and he also said that non of the rumours was true okay!!!! People need to get a life and let the k-pop idols breathe
I really hate everyone for ruining this boy and im saying this as a bi person. I heard that those rumors have been debunked. They really don't give a damn about homophobia and it breaks my heart. They just want to hate on that kid. Some people are pretty disgusting, i just cant with them.
There is nothing worse than being punished for the crimes someone didn't commit.
his homophobia ruined himself, instead of encouraging him to do better, you tolerate his homophobia
@@dealuzurriaga9781 its already proven that he's not homophobic. You are just dumb af and here to hate. Move on
@@dealuzurriaga9781 did you not even bother to watch this video or...
His words were purposefully twisted and mis construed to get a soundbite out of him
He quickly corrected what he meant and people like you still persecute him is beyond ridiculous.
There are actual homophobic/transphobic people out there actually harming and doing deplorable things to
people who want to live their life normally and this shittily translated clip is what you are focused on.
Kookielit forgot to add where he said in Japanese a couple months prior " Fall in love and marry the person you love whether that be a man or a woman" to a female fan during his birthday stream. and Also during the fanmeet in Japan where he clarifies the rumors about him being a homophobe aren't true and implying that YG is taking legal action against the original rumor starter for defamation hence why he was late to the fanmeeting. As a pansexual person who was actually bullied and abused by homophobes growing up, I'm sick of seeing this shit.
@dealuzurriaga9781 people like you are disgusting. Homophobia isn't a joke, yet you throw it around so casually. The clip has already been retranslated by a nonfan that has PROVEN it was misinterpreted and out of context. But yall just want to ignore the evidence you are given. How can you watch this video and be so heartless. Gtfo off rhe internet. Can't you see your words have consequences???
@@dealuzurriaga9781maybe use your brain and look into the full clip. there's literally no reason to be so nasty towards a young man this is why idols are depressed. he literally did nothing wrong and y'all need to stop being toxic and jump to conclusions.
As a Japanese person, I want to add some context that the LGBTQ discussion in Japan is not as prominent as in the west. On a fundamental level, Japan doesn’t have a religious/cultural background that views homosexuality as sinful or wrong, and therefore, the counter narrative of “accepting the LGBTQ community” and “it being socially taboo to say you don’t feel comfortable with it” isn’t as widely acknowledged either. I think many Japanese people have a “you do what you want in private” attitude (I’m not saying there aren’t conservatives who oppose same sex marriage and rights activists who push for equal rights because there are, but comparatively speaking, it’s not a topic that gets media/advertising/political exposure to the same degree that it does in the west). I believe Haruto had zero intention of commenting about the “community” because talking about sexual orientation in the Japanese context is so often just simply about personal preference and not about a larger political/social issue. Imagine someone saying tongue piercings are bit weird and how non-political that would be. I hope the people judging him can be mindful of their own cultural biases.
Also, not to mention that he was taking about dramas and not real life.
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
He’s my bias 😢, let the boy live… he’s going through growing stages in life - he’s allowed to have opinions and boundaries
We live in a time when you can be cancelled for something that can be misinterpreted and no apology or clarification will satisfy a toxic culture of netizens whose only goal is to tear someone the don't like down. Haruto admitted that he didn't mean it like that and it made no difference. If anything, the hate got worse! I feel so sorry for Kpop idols who go through this. They give up everything to debut and work so hard only to be defined for one misinterpreted statement or action. I respect Kpop idols so much more after seeing all they go through!😢
Haruto is my bias in TREASURE since day 1. He is a honest and confident person. As a young 16 old girl, I wouldn't feel comfortable kissing anyone, even with the same gender. I mean, sure pecks, and all. But at the same time, there are boundaries when it comes to things like this. Haruto was setting boundaries when it comes to romance or dramas in acting and that's what people need to understand. People are ruthless and cruel! He don't need to say sorry for what he said.
my respect for haruto and treasure I’m stand right one📈📈📈📈
ppl need to give idols a break. Like don’t they have anything better to than criticize them for the littlest of things.
im so worried about him, Ever since Sulli passed away cause of all hate she got, Im just scared it might happen to other idols as well. I never forgave and never will forgive netizens for what they did to sulli, and if we suddenly get a post from yg about Haruto passing away. I swear i'm going to track all of those stupid people down.
It’s messed up how people think it’s okay to attack and bully people online. Haruto did nothing to warrant all this hate. People always take things out of context and only hear what it is they want to hear.
Awww I still love him, he doesn’t deserve to have hated 🩵💙
Fat shaming is never okay. People get a little fat once in awhile, it's so normal to gain weight. All those people should just chill
#JUSTICEFORHARUTO
Yes! I'm so glad you made this vid cuz even tho Im not a Ruto biased, he's still important to treasure and it hurts my heart to see him criticised for nothing! He already has enough on his plate😓😢fighting Ruto💖💖💖
This people who so into this thing are funny we are forces to agree with them to be the same as them. And if someone like Haruto as straight man said he didn't feel comfortable with that kind of act they twisted it by saying he's homophobic. Haters are stupid
Nah 50% percent of that community is sensitive especially gen z they force people to support them
Very stupid. But they think it's woke
exactly
They just jealous they cant pull a face that majestic like haruto
New generations are scary. They insult idols who did BL or might be gay, then they insult ones who wouldn’t. I can’t…
I m gay and I don’t mind what he said.
😂 if his comments makes him homophobic then these citizens are fatphobic!
Right
my baby was just setting boundaries. he's allowed to be uncomfortable. goodbye he's straight and isn't comfortable being shipped with his members and there's literally nothing wrong wirh that?? plus he was a minor when this clip first came out and people are so toxic and nasty to not understand the whole thing and use their brains before jumping to conclusions. the kpop fandom is so stupid. like people say don't bully others, but its okay to bully haruto. the fatshaming, death threats, and just the hate he gets is ridiculous. he's so young and such a sweetheart and he's so kind and polite and he doesn't deserve this. i love him and support him no matter what.
Sorry to say this but I recently saw a account in tiktok making hate videos about Treasure. (and the oener of the account is a moa and a engene. I don’t have anything against TXT/Enhypen ). The comment section of those videos are really disgusting. They were saying really bad things about Treasure by labelling the whole group as homophobic. I don't have any other social media accounts so I never knew that they were getting this much hate because of this single incident.
Also I think Haruto knows that some teumes are shipping him with Junkyu a lot. ( not in brotherly way more like in a romantic way)And he must have felt really uncomfortable about that. ( I think this is one of the reasons for the statement he said)Fans should stop these whole shipping thing like I have seen many other idols have try to distance themselves from each other because of these delusional fans.
Frrr. He himself said that he is uncomfortable with it but still some fans ships him in romantic way is seriously disgusting me. So we can clearly see he is straight. They even make video about the jealous analysing sh1ts. How dumb fans are these days.
So setting up boundaries now is called "homophobic" what a world we live in
Exactly
"If you are not with us, you are against us" mentality
they want haruto to be gay
We Teumes aren't sad that Ruto gain weight it doesn't matter it's his choice, his life, his wish all me and the other teumes will support them that's for sure but thanks to the useless haters and netizens he is on diet WE CAN'T LET THE IDOLS DO WHATEVER WE WANT OKAY!!! THEY ALSO HAVE A LIFE I AM SAYING THIS FOR ALL THE IDOLS WE CANT TREAT THEM LIKE A SHIT! THEY ARE HUMANS TOO WE NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON INSIDE THEIR MIND THEY MIGHT BE STRUGGLING TOO SO PLEASE PLEASE TO WHO EVER IS READING THIS BEFORE YOU HATE THEM THINK ABOUT HOW THEY MUST BE STRUGGLING TOO PLEASE
I didn’t see anything wrong with what Haruto said. As a straight woman I wouldn’t feel comfortable kissing another woman or any romantic acting. People are taking it too personal and too far. He didn’t even mean it in a bad way too.
Edit: I see y’alls argument In the comments. No I don’t Stan him or his group. He said something that he shouldn’t have said regardless whether he supports it or not. At the end of the day, he is human. He let something slip and is probably remorseful. As long he doesn’t do it again, we should give him the benefit of the doubt.
In what context could he mean it in a good way? He is an idol with a fanbase of people that look up at him and many of them could be gay, imagine being said that your preferences that makes you you are weird. He should be aware of what he says and being straight and being gay different things. They mean different to different people. Obviously you wouldn't feel comfortable kissing other women but gay people would also feel uncomfortable kissing the opposite sex. He needs to be held accountable for his actions but not harassed. Which is what is happening to him right now. Netizens take it too far in an unfair and harsh manner which is inexcusable but so are haruto's words.
You're a straight woman so you have no right to decide if it was wrong or not...
He could have said that in various ways but why he had to say that its weird?? Like he is not a 12 yrs old kid or something he is a freaking adult!!!
@@kimiricci crazy thing is people are forcing him to do something he isn’t comfortable with. He is fine with bromance but he wouldn’t do actual BL. Didn’t know idols don’t have any say of what they aren’t comfortable with. Y’all are taking this way out of im context and aren’t giving him the benefit of the doubt. Just as you said straight people wouldn’t be comfortable doing gay stuff as gay people wouldn’t be comfortable doing straight stuff.
Not y'all defending him when he was clearly in the wrong, He literally said man and man is weird, he literally could have said anything else except for those hurtful words, even his members knew he said the wrong thing and tried to cut him off, anyway he's very young and I hope he learns from his mistakes and becomes a better person.
Haters gonna hate. Haruto is successful and handsome so who cares
Don't worry Ruto Teume will have your back I am so angry netizens or haters needs to let idols breathe
This video clip didn't mention how Haruto is polite, considerate, selfless, how he is normal weight and handsome in next day fan meeting after bad angle photo from airport and how his fans are so loyal, supportive , love and prorect him because they know Haters always spread false informations about Haruto with jelaousy.The title and timing of video is questionable 🤔
Thank you for changing the Title.
Even if he was overweight thigh that's not an issue.
Idky ppl just wanna find a reason to hate someone that never did any harm to them 😞💔
very grateful that you made this video and brought this issue to light but i wish you hadn’t written “ruined” him in your title. neither haruto nor his career is ruined, he has a long way to go! please dont make it seem like its over for him, our boy is stronger than anyone and he has his members and us teumes supporting him! he will shine brighter than ever! fuck the haters.
Edit : thank you for changing the title
I swear some people just need to go on with their lives...
HOW can they body shame someone and sleep peacefully at night??
I just don't get it
They should stop the bullying and harassment of the idols, because it can make them uncomfortable and depressed, but it also can make them feel bad about themselves and have a low self-esteem. I have seen this happen before and it’s not a nice thing for people to deal with. The country that I live in (this was in a town where I visit from time to time) two girls in the girls high school had committed sxxcide, because they were bullied.
If he doesn't like LGBTQ than he doesn't. Who are those gay/lesbian people to comment on it?🙄 If you like it it's your choice and if he doesn't like it than it's totally his choice and you (gays, lesbian) can't say anything about it. If we straight can't force you to be straight than you can't force a straight man to become comfortable with gay things! Faltu people's 🙄
Everything’s homophobic these days according to kpop stan’s lmao. God forbid a straight man feeling weird about kissing another man 😂 I can’t lmao
i really wanna see more news about 2nd gen or 3rd gen kpop.
Since the 4th gen is out its all about them and how much Netizens complain about all the time.
While its most of the time a waste of time when people complain about kpop groups and what they shouldnt do.
People are bored and thats the real reason why they are doing this.
they dont have any hobbies and dont give them peace. Just let them live their lives.
Haters will be haters..
I kinda feel like Haruto and Wonyoung are the scapegoats of 4th gen
They hate people being successful
agree :(
Geez, netizens can be so cruel and heartless on any idol it's pathetic if you ask me. They don't care about how the scandals they started effects an idol's mentality or worse causes said idol to leave his or her group, just so they can laugh at the true victim online which is just downright disgusting and horrible. Making mistakes is completely normal in everyday life and as humans we apologize for our mistakes and try to be better but in netizens case any mistakes made by a idol no matter their age is seen as a direct insult to them and they will use this to ruin someone's career while playing the victim card when they are caught lying through their teeth.
Im bisexual and even if he meant that between male and male is weird, where is the homophobia there?
Why would he say us weird tho? Imagine getting called weird from ur idol😢 that shit hurts tho
ur not even bisexual lol stop claiming yourself as part of lgbtq
@@tharntypesdaughterHe referred to himself and not others
@@tharntypesdaughterhe said between him and his members not people in general
@@rikun3564 He clearly said men and men is weird he never called himself weird
He's not homophobic by saying a man and a man is weird. Anything you're not used to is going to be weird at first. Also, when it comes to him saying "crosses the line".... because I'm an actor, if a major aspect in a role makes you uncomfortable, you should either not take on the project or open your mind to pushing through your uncomfortable space. Regardless, you should never be forced or force yourself to do something you're not 100% about.
I am never ever forgiving the netizens who hurt him
Actually the clip was misinterpreted. A non fan later translated the clip towards the day of Mcountdown in France, when qntis threatened a black ocean for TREASURE as a whole. It was translated to be harsh, and out of context. But some people blindly continue their hate without listening to evidence
thank u so much for making this video :(( it really made me cry a lot for this 8 mins well explained video, cuz we’ve been fighting for months now, and clearly the netizenz do not care abt the context but they just wanted to hate him. it hurts a lot as a fan to see a lot of hate and to know that he sees it and it affected him too much :(( hope that non fans will dive more by watching this video.
But why do kfans find it easy to body shame idols???!
That one comment made me angry
"He gained weight, he doesnt look healthy" as if they give a s*** if he's healthy, they would praise him for "taking care of himself" if he was very thin and underweight
Its so dumb to say someones homophobic just because he doesnt want to film a BL drama or idk kiss someone of the same gender n stuff. Like i have LHBTQ firends, an i love ans support them. But i cant imagine a relationship with the same gender myself either. that has nothing to do with homophobic. But the internet is just dumb.
every time it surprises me how MEAN peolple can be!!! like seriously STOP IT!! im not a treasure fan but i feel bad for him
he didn’t do anything wrong, people are so dumb JUST LEAVE HIM ALONE!!
Its funny that they cannot move on last year" out of context 6 seconds short video clip" made and spread by Haters intentionally on Haruto's Birthday. Haters has been crying by bringing up this last year short clip again and again just to get views and hate.Until when will they make long article about that short misleading one video clip? I feel sorry for Haters.
its okay to think its weird if people of the lgbt community also say the same thing about heteros constantly. its just about preference on both sides
we love you haruto
kpop stans will take anything and exaggerate it to a million, like let the man live
Haruto is the most popular member of TREASURE! He’s not my bias but just leave him alone!
Everybody hating on him are hypocrite so you heard when he said a man and a man is a little bit weird for him but did not hear when he said he didn't mean it in a bad way
If he is straight of course it would feel weird for him to consider being in a BL romantic comedy and having to kiss another man. Not every straight person is comfortable with that, especially since he does not have much acting experience. I am sure plenty of gay people would feel weird to kiss someone of the opposite sex in a move 😂😂😂😂 its a normal feeling for a person to have.
3:16 if it were HIM starring in the drama which was literally the context then yes, not ‘actually gay’ (kissing and stuff like that) because of course someone straight is going to feel uncomfortable doing that? i’ve supported the LGBTQ community all my life but i’m straight, i also wouldn’t want to kiss someone the same gender as me? like…?
True true
Just imagine you being a straight person and someone ships you with someone of same gender and make edits and posting it on social media what would you do to justify yourself that you don't like the idea of it ?
The way he word it was wrong ig that's what triggered the LGBT+ community yk,he could have said sth like "I personally don't like being shipped with any of the members cuz it makes my relationship with them awkward" idk anything else.The dude generalized it and so that's why he sounded kinda homophobic. Now it's their decision If they are gonna still stan the group or not but imo all that hate he's receiving is unnecessary
Or if you have to play a gay character with a friend or anyone of the same gender. It would definitely be weird
@iamconfusion77 The clip was harshly translated and cut short by an anti. A new version has been circulating that literally proves he didn't say BL is weird. It was all a set up and it works. Another translation can be found oh Twitter. It was posted by an anti on his birthday. No credibility
im not even a fan and mind u im gay, when this took place i saw the clip and thought it wasn't as bad as people made it to be. and, those who were hating, majority of them weren't even in the lgbtq+ community to begin with. they jst needed a punch bag they could hate and unfortunately it happened to be haruto
As a gay guy I think what happened is that he didn't know how to express himself and people misinterpreted what he said but I don't believe he's homophobic. People need to give him a break after all he's just a kid.
Okay first of all he is not a kid,he isn't a 12 yrs old kid or something he is a freaking adult!!! And second of all if he didn't knew how to express it then at the first point he shouldn't have expressed his views on that. And lastly I'm gay top myself,wbu?
He is 2 years older than me and I and my peers know that what he said is not okay
Bruh he didn't say anything wrong he just said he is not comfortable being Shipped with the members and is weird and people who are gay are telling that he is not wrong then why do you guys have a problem you guys just need reason to hate someone 🙄❤️
@@SkyFWWOhe meant that he found it weird that people were shipping him and his members and that it made him uncomfortable, which is understandable. He’s aloud to feel uncomfortable with that but that doesn’t mean he’s homophobic.
@@tharntypesdaughter he's 19 years old he's a teenager not an adult. He didn't have any bad intentions he was just saying how he feels like I said he could've expressed a little bit better but he didn't mean to offend anyone. I'm bottom, why do you ask?
All the person who brings the old videos back needs a therapist because he or she makes it look like Haruto is a homophobic.....but he said bromance was fine
THIS!!! People don't seem to know that the clip was translated to look the worst for him. It was a set up!
Well if you ever think that your life is pathetic, remember that netizens and kpop fans exist.
Yup i understand his point of view. Its like being gay then kissing a straight woman or a lesbian kissing a straight man. Im sure they would also feel uncomfortable. People are only thinking about themselves how about think about other people.
As a straight person like haruto I'd be highly uncomfortable doing any lgbtq acting and that doesn't mean i disrespect lgbtq people
Also knowing haruto is already ship with one of his group members romantically and he probably knows it making him even more uncomfortable
Now those fans should know their boundaries and stop romanticising brotherhood
Them netizens are too quick to judge and should spend more time improving themselves. It seems that most of those mean people online just want to HATE-- the defense mechanism of insecure ones. 😂
THE LIES!!! Haruto is NOT ruined. Youre trying to make that happen though. You are the pure definition if messy
And if Haruto doesn't feel comfortable acting gay or looking at it, HE'S ALLOWED
Are we forcing things on people now? Oh ok
I too support the idea, but im not part of the community. Its my choice.... and i feel like most of the idols you see to do the same(except some), and some even do things as fan service, coz when i've seen many male idols when asked seriously abt ideal types/ relations use the term "Girl/Women" to describe the person...
You can support a community & their rights, but no one force you to get into it...
And some kpop fans really hate when the male idols tell/show interest in women, they'll do everything to prove "Oh No He isnt Straight", they dont have problem shipping their favs with same group members, but if its a female idol booommmmmm
They just criticized Haruto because they cannot have what Haruto already had. Leave the guy alone. He is just to honest of what he thinks. Netizens never grew up on their thoughts and still act hypocrites, they threw hate on you with the slightest flaw but they probable looked like a sad potato in real life. 🤷🏻♀️
He don't deserve this much hate I'm feeling so bad and we can clearly see he has no bad intention to say anything like that and everyone have change opinions he might felt uncomfortable while filming it that's why he said it can he have this much right to say what he is thinking I don't know why they making so much big deal out of it
I don't think he was being homophobic or anything, not when especially they have a lot of international fans. He probably meant that it would be weird between members, not genders. I think it was a misunderstanding. But we all know toxic people like to believe what they want to. And we should respect everyone's sexual orientation, also people who are heterosexual. He may be uncomfortable with that type of acting personally.
lmfaoooo people really find this homophobic ??!?!! describe homophobic to me QUICK
"no but man and man is wrong"
@@cewlwithyew " I don't mean it that way" and Yada Yada yaada. Which you purposely left out. Why don't you go and watch the whole live yourself?
How toxic LGBT is towards straight people is mind blowing to me.
They can't 😂 I'll be waiting with you
That's how social media works. Cut the body, show the head with the caption "I found a creature without a body"
and being gay and lesbian is need proud yourself noooo just two genders man and women not anyyyy gender god creat eve and adam not adam and stev!!!!
I'm a straight and i have two friends who are gay. And they love each other but one of them like me lot , you can say she also love me but it's weird and uncomfortable for me if i had to say how i truly feel.
But i never hated them, i have support them as always. I have good terms with both of them.
Even if it's weird for me there are acceptances for that. I guess that's how haruto's also feel. I never said i don't like them or i hate them. Rather i support them, but that doesn't mean i will also become a gay to support them or i would be comfortable to show affection the same way they do to each other. That's the boundaries. That's the uncomfortable things. But that's personal but that doesn't mean i hate them.
If it was all okay there wouldn't be any gender differences. There would've be anything called straight gay lesbian. All would be same.
It's all about accepting and supporting.
Honestly netizens themselves are not as pure now a days they've become a community of bully.
Tbh it’s sad that lgbt+ people can be mean to straight and it’s normalised but when it’s a slight thing like what haruto said towards boyxboy suddenly it’s homophobic he clearly was talking about HIM that HE wouldn’t be comfortable and that it would be weird what’s so wrong in that? Is he forced to like it? my god (when it’s not homophobic) and everyone hates him for it (and yes I am lgbt+ don’t try to come at me)
gays are sensitive lol straight people aren’t allowed to have boundaries
Omg people are so hypocrict and will find anything to attack someone, and the so called lgbt defenders who understand noting :// poor Haruto
This is straight up just terrible
Bruh its absolutely his opinion and his point of view. What is wrong with these people?!?! Not everyone supports lgbtq accept that. You can’t literally go and hate someone just because they aren’t comfortable with bl. LEARN TO RESPECT SOMEONE’S OPINION
I've never been a fan of treasure since I prefer listening to female artists since as a girl it makes me more comfortable but I've been seeing the comments circulating around, it's not fair to Haruto he didn't do anything wrong and netizens are absolutely disgusting for their conduct following the initial controversy. At the end of the day we don't know 100% of everything behind the scenes or Haruto's thoughts but to go around to parade and actively promote hate and vile behaviour is completely unacceptable regardless of anybody's actions.
Love Haruto and Junkyu they are both my biases in Treasure 💎
can you also make a full detailed video abt treasure?all of it from the ot12 to 10
I dont get why these fans even bother arguing🙄 silence is the best weapon in these cases. We know what he meant us REAL fans are still gonna support him and that should be the end of it. Yall keep dragging it on by replying continuously to the haters instead of just ignoring it.
This is one of the huge problem with TREASURE... The uncanny hate they recieve from the kpop stans and general public.
One day they are labeled irrelevant, unfamous, losers... But one small issue/out of context moment and people out here judging them from head to toe / in and out as if they knew them personally?! Like, so what if he gained weight you don't even see him everyday because you don't stan him, why bother talking about someone "irrelevant"? Haters really can't decide lol.
Some might think this is having a victim mentality but it's true, and it affected not just him but also most of the fandom. Sometimes I'm convinced that TREASURE is actually more famous than what is projected but some people are just silently waiting for some issue or drama instead of appreciating their music, performances, and good attitude.
KPOP community is scary because it can indeed boost an idol's status from little things (like being viral for memes or by posting a simple shirtless pic, baamm suddenly everybody loves you...) BUT they can also devastate you to the core by escalating simple things negatively like what they did to Haruto.
This isn't the first time, but I hope there won't be another time when KPOPPERS would preach about;
"be kind to everyone"
"You don't know what they are going through"
"We shouldn't judge"
"We lost another pure soul"
I know exactly who wrote and spread that post on twitter(X). I'm sorry to say this but it was an Engene. It was during that time that Enhypen and Treasure is always fighting, until now of course. But the exact post you showed is the same engen person I remembered. There were also loona fans who just because loona is literally at a disbandment stage and they got nothing to do attacking le serrafim as well and treasure. (Don't try to ask me why I included loona, because loona fans are about gay topics as always and they come up everywhere saying things like they hate homophobic people or something. It's always a loona fan.)
Believing a relationship should be between a man and a woman is not homophobic if he was not bashing gay people or bullying them because of their sexuality. Sure his choice of words were questionable but not homophobia
I'm no fan of treasure, Nor any other boy group. But like what if he gains weight? Just simply being skinny doesnt make you look good either. I think from that photo it might be just poor choice of outfit, but other than that he actually better looking?
It's always the non fans who has something to say as if they are actually part of the society when they obviously aren't even paying taxes being homeless and doing nothing but sit on their computers or something
He said "Manxman is weird" in a drama cause the other member mentioned "Beloved summer" which was played by man and a woman , thats why he said "manxman is weird" and added he didn't mean it like that, he didn't say that he didn't like it But it got cut off
Here:
💎 Talking about romcom drama
ruto asked the other members isn't " IT'S OKAY THAT FRIENDSHIP" is romcom too?
(talking about their webdrama)
...
:beloved summer
ruto: i like it but "manxman is weird"
(cause beloved summer was played by man and woman )
after that he said
"i didn't mean it like that , i didn't say i didn't like it " but got cut off,
He added "Just don't crossed the line" ( he probably means " no kissing")
They're talking about the drama not the community
THANK YOU
Why he diet? He can just eat more and going to the gym and be buff