As someone who worked with refiners, I always looked at all precious metals at their scrap value.. when everything goes to hell in a basket, I don't feel that anyone will care whether your one ounce of gold is considered to be a collector piece verses just one plain ounce of gold. The truth is, gold is gold, it's an element on the chart, there is no finer 24k gold over other 24k gold. Remember, gold is gold, buy it at the best price, not on collectibility.
So you're only getting gold when everything goes to hell? I think people can do both. There will be a moment when things are bad. There will be times like now where people see collectibility. Thanks for your input!
@@CampbellsCoins I respect your opinion. There's nothing wrong with collecting gold or silver coins for investment. I agree it's another way to diversify your assets. I suppose my opinion stems from dealing with refiners over the years who asseyed the precious metal scrap that I sent them. I do know this however, with the gold and silver coins that are in the safe, if in the event of a fire where the heat was such they all melted down into one lump...I could send that lump to the refiner who would pay me the market value of the melted gold or silver coins, not the collectability, why? Because gold is gold and silver is silver and that's all that I have. Just my opinion only.
Everything has already gone to hell. Sure it can get worse. The thing is, value = value. There will *always* be higher demand for rare things than common things, even if we all go full Mad Max. Since gold has no practical use in a SHTF scenario, it is purely a matter of perceived value. If i am trading you gold for 'hydro' in our Mad Max future, I will give you more for a rare form than for a common form.
Bars are more difficult to sell since they need to be tested more thoroughly because they don’t have standards like coins. Counterfeit coins are very easy to spot if you know what to look for but bars are more tricky. Go coins for stack
I feel that coins are overvalued. The odds of eagle stackers running into another 1933 double eagle scenario are a trillion to one. 1 ounce bullion bars are the way to go!
What you like is what you like. If I don't buy coins, I kind of prefer cool looking rounds. On my desk right now, I have a silver eagle, a 1 ounce bullet shaped silver thingy, and a 2 ounce silver themed round (not a coin). These are my silver toys. I also have a 20 ounce tube I handle because - why not? I never plan to sell it anyway, and if I get so desperate that I have to , I'm effed anyway, so who cares about the 20% I lost by diving into it a la Scrooge McDuck?
Unless you are wealthy enough to have a big, secure vault in your home, where will you store all your gold? And when you have an order shipped to your home, the delivery driver and others will know you are a stacker and now your chances of being robbed are greatly increased. Better to buy land. It can't be stolen and its value will always go up over time.
I am often conflicted on which is better, bars or coins? So being inheritantly lazy.. I just take the easy way out, I just buy the yellow stuff. [The irony of gold] Gold is something that man has always sought and has always been digging up... When he feels He has dug up enough.. He buries it
Great video! I prefer 10oz gold/silver bullion bars. Gold is backed by itself and it will be paid/bought/sold depending on weight and purity anywhere in the world.
I switched to the Britannia in both Gold and Silver versions. The security features are top quality and the retail prices are the lowest of all popular bullion coins, sometimes just as affordable as bars. The 100 gram Swiss bars shown here are choice. I'd gladly trade in Silver towards something like that, if and when the ration tightens up. It's a good way for a stacker to get into a bigger Gold bar.
I've been buying soveriegns i think the older ones may have way more value in the coin collector market and a local shop sells them for very little above spot price no matter the year/condition
This a Serious Question no Flex or some something… currently i have 6000€ either for 12x 1/4oz Britannia's or 10x 10g Gold Bars what should i get? im from Europe and many people said coins more a US thing in the EU its more about Gold Bars but other channel always say get both or just bars bc coints not that good etc im new into all this 'Gold Investment' stuff 😅
@@xHighRoller salute bradaz sounds good on your kickstart , i would suggest to split them between coins and bars , most bars are kept in plastic cover which will lose some value when you sell them later if you open and play/hold with it,but if you are going the long term you will cover the loss for sure. coins you can play/hold and most of the time legit and easy to verify upon sellback , hope that helps bradaboss ⭐
Locally in a 100,000 populated area I could not sell bars. They wouldn't take them. Went to large city to convert to US American eagles. I would check this kind of situation out where you reside. Obviously, the big city with over one million population had no problem taking the bars. This happened summer 2020.
Hi, i lived in a similarly sized midwest town, in the middle of a cornfield. The 2 local coin shops will take the bars, but at a very low prize. They do will prefer AGEs and buffalos every day of the week.
never buy bars ...canadian maple, buffalo, austrian...they will always sell quick, universally known. Bars are very very difficult to sell, lots of fraud, and most people are no experts, so they shy away. If someone does buy them, you will a crappy price for them.
@@CampbellsCoins I'm speaking from a collector stand point. The only thing I stack are peace and morgans. The logic like so many claim is an insurance that keeps our Dollar current with Inflation. I try to buy and sell some quality numismatic coins, mostly silver, some gold, not much copper
UK - gold coins have benefits over any other precious metal investment. Vat free + CGT free. Royal Mint digigold is also a very good way to get in into the precious metal market, regular savings invested in digigold can them be transfered to physical gold
Months ago, a one ounce Una and the Lion gold bar was selling for about the same price as one ounce gold coins with only 4,000 made. An absolutely awesome deal!
Hello everyone, i need someone help me get the answer of this question, lets say ww3 started and paper currency became worthless, here is an example: i have 2 kg of gold bars , and guy has 1 kg of gold but in 100 grams, and a guy who has 1 kg in gold coins. who will have the best chance to buy stuff and get full benefit of the gold he has, some might not understand my point , sorry for my bad English. To make it clear , when ww3 ends i wanted to buy a horse i cant just give the seller 1 kg of gold in one bar i will give him 10 golden coins . So what i just said just now proofs gold coins are more useful than gold bars in wars or in bad situations.
It depends on your objective and the price to spot you can get. Are you a collector , store of value, trader, monetary reset prepper? I like to keep 10% of my net worth in gold/silver and never sell. Bars at 2-4% above spot is fine. No need for 15%+ premium for coins. Value of coin gets inflated away and if dollar fails, 1 oz coin isn't going to be worth anymore than 1 oz bar , with respect to premium paid.
I want to invest in pure gold and silver bars. Not the fancy ones you show in your video. They look nice but I refuse to pay a premium because they look pretty.
I know exactly what you're going through. My head says to get low premium gold as often as possible. The collector in me says "screw that guy, get what you love". Haha. When my LCS showed me the proof buffalo, I literally said "I hate you", because he was derailing my stacking strategy! What coins are you getting before the RCM? Thanks BA!
I just talked with my LCS about this. He actually made it easy to understand. All he had was Maples and Eagles. This is what he was selling and buying. But he said Eagles are highly preferred.
Well the sad problem is Eagles are not .9999 24 k gold, Bufflo are and there is a huge price difference. I love Bufflo’s but they do not make 1/4 oz coins. I only buy 1/4 gold 24 k gold coins. I am now looking in to buying 5 gram to 10 gram bars of 24 k gold. Because at times there is a price brake when buying bars.
I hate bars ... They are much trickier to validate since they don't have published dimensions and are usually stuck in the annoying assay which make it difficult to test unless you have a Sigma. Coins are much easier to test. This comes in handy if you ever sell them to an individual who wants to test them before buying.
This point is key, whether you're buying GM stock, or gold bars: You don't buy at the peak of the market---unless you've got a sure buyer who will pay more than you do.
Eh… disagree unless you’re trying to short sell for a quick profit. Timing the market is impossible, especially for average trader. I buy gold whether it’s up or down - couldn’t care less. Because when I go to sell my stack thirty or forty years later I have no doubt it’ll hedge against inflation and I’ll be able to save myself from being robbed slowly by the fed printing trillions of dollars into thin air.
_Gold minted bars especially in an assay package have a higher value than Gold ‘cast’ bars of the same weight. Nevertheless, you can definitely negotiate a higher premium on your minted bars in an assay package_
I dont have a lot of money , especially now when theyre are other priorities that must come first like paying down debt. Been buying fractional gold bars when ever I can as a long term investment, first with Pamp 2.5gm sizes now worked up to the 5gm. I am hoping to start buying the 10gm sizes as I know the larger the size the less over spot price.
I own more coins than bars. Some places are very skeptical of bars when selling due to the amount of fakes. From my experience, govt minted coins are also much easier to sell than bars. I really love gold Buffalos and Eagles but I’d take a 1oz PAMP bar over a 1oz kangaroo coin. On the plus side, bars tend to have lower premiums.
Coin it’s no values to another country…. Waste the money to gold coin .. coin just for in U.S.A .. if you selling gold coin out side of U.S … you loose 50% value
I have 90% world gold as well as fractional bars and modern bullion coins. I try to buy it all for the sake of diversification, and also, this stuff is reaaaaal pretty.
To me it seems that fake bars would be easier to male than fake coins. If the society goes south I believe a 10 acre farm with its own water source would more valuable than either. A two or more acre farm pond could hold enough fish to supply a family’s protein needs.
My personal experience with Silver and Gold. Mostly the Silver. If you expect to get Spot or a Premium. Never touch your newly Mented coins with your Bair hands. Unscrupulous coins dealers deduct for anything but perfect condition. Will most likely cost you 10% to buy and sell. So 20% Something to consider.
I have 3, 1/10oz gold rounds got them when the price of 1/ 10oz eagles price went up. Found a online dealer with price I'm willing to pay for 1/10oz eagles, going to continue filling tube with 1/10oz eagles for the rest of the year one at a time 🤑🇺🇲🇺🇲
Coins. If you have a 5 ounce gold piece you can’t kind of break that up and use it separately where is if you’ve got a bunch of coins you can give them anywhere from 1 to 1 to 5 coins.
Thank you for this video. Me and my wife are looking to start investing in gold as a way to have solid value in our hands at all times. We have looked at buying land as well so in either case there is physically something there of value. My uncle is a big proponent of this, invest in physical items as they are always worth something and they go up big time through the years with inflation and demand. Much more solid than stocks alone.
I am also looking into this, I lost my husband so nobody to bounce all of these decisions off . Hence trying to learn from people wiser than me on the subject (Thank you for the video). Right now debating paying off the mortgage for security, or investing in precious metals. Retirement planning is harder than I thought, with many pitfalls. My parents always taught me you throw everything into property, land and anything physical. My only worry is choosing someone reputable to deal with, to avoid the scams, also learning that it is best to not buy to high over the spot price, for resale? Although a lot of the nicer pieces are higher in price.
@@sharonms7 Thank you! I'm sorry for your loss. If you have a fix rate on your mortgage, I don't see the rush. Debt can be a good thing sometimes, especially if you're able to pay it off and the rate isn't variable. As to what pieces to choose from, that really depends on where you live. If you're in the US, I use an LCS called Avenue Coin. Very reputable with competitive pricing.
Only reason to buy coin is if its same price as bar which doesn't happen often. The same person buying a coin if SHTF will also buy a bar. You waste your money but do get something cooler to look at with coin. Yes you get more when you go to sell but rarely ever anymore than the premium you paid.
If you don’t have God and a genuine relationship with Jesus, your broke no matter the gold. Jeremiah 29:13 You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart. I hope this means something to somebody. People have literally came back from death describing the horrors of hell and God has offered us a way out through the blood of His Son Jesus. Our sin has consequences. I’m not advertising a religion, some of the rudest people I’ve met have been religious, Im more talking about developing a genuine relationship with God. I don’t know who will be reading this or where their mind is at, but I’ve had more than my fair share of answered prayers and just cool experiences involving God and Jesus. I’ve personally been convinced. I would be wrong not to try and tell others, even if humans can be stubborn. I just hope atleast somebody reading this seeks God with a genuine heart and study the Bible. Be wise about it, things don’t happen over night, but maybe get some help understanding the Bible and listen to some testimonies from others concerning God/ Jesus because there is a lot of them. :)
Thanks for sharing! I'm a huge Libertad fan.the Koalas are fantastic! And I think the Brittania Gold coin is the best of them all. Can't stand the American or Krugerrand because of the copper. I don't own any of them excepting fractional unfortunately
What is the ratio of gold bars sold to gold coins by the large bullion dealers ? To me stacking gold is about price per oz so I stick with buying well know minted bars. Just bought my first two coins just to have a few.
hands down, the coins are better if you are moving large amounts on money between countries legally. when you go threw the borders the law states that you only have to declare the face value of the coins/ currency that you hold. so a coin wait in gold may be 2 grand so say 5 1oz gold bars about 10k is the limit when moving threw countries, the Gold coins you can carry a few of them when the 1 oz face value of the gold coin is 5 bucks. pretty funny system.
Be careful. Many EU countries stipulate that you have to declare the market value of your gold coins when it exceeds the face value, even if the coin is deemed to be legal tender. This is not the case for silver coins; if you are caught carrying a significant amount of silver (> €10,000) there's no charge for smuggling, but you can still be made to fill out a declaration. Check the regulation of the countries your are importing to.
Coins are cool, but bars are where it's at! And I'm loling at the size of the " bar " next to the coins 😂, bigger bars are where it's at! Not those tiny ones 😂, I would honestly prefer a coin then if I could only afford that much. Saying that now, Pamp is a scam 😂😂😂 Paying high premium for a little bit.... they decided to sell overpriced little amounts 😂🤦♂️🤦♂️ I just picked up 2 silver ounces to start off my journey, I will make sure to save up large amounts for gold, that's where the money's at, not $50-$200 orders, I'd like a nice Kilo of gold 👀
Before watching the video: I just mix them, i go with the 100 gramm bars, nothing else in the "bar section". Everything else i go with 1 ounce gold oins, eagles, britannias etc.
my comment on the silver version of this topic I mentioned I like to buy 10oz silver bars . But from the gold stand point I buy strictly gold coins usually Buffalo’s , eagles maples and krugerrands . I do have a few other coins but mostly those mentioned above . As far as bars I only have a few small fractional 5gram 10 gram bars but usually I stay away from gold bars . Even though I’m saving up for a 10oz Johnson Matthey pressed bar that my LCS is holding on for me . But that 10oz bar savings usually gets dipped into for 1oz gold coins on the dip of the spot market. Great topic thanks for the video great job .
I think that the coins look nicer but that the bars taste so much better, especially the ones made in Germania. I love gold! The look of it! The smell of it! The taste of it! The texture! I love gold so much that I lost 1/2 my ass in an unfortunate military smelting procedure. Hence the name... Sgt. SillyAss.
Upvote for "I don't trust the government now, and I don't expect that to change soon". Thanks for the video. Just getting started in this and looking forward to consuming your content.
Coins are easir to sell and more popular Bars are more interesting to look at but can be easily faked. Look at the argor heraeus kinebar. I could stare at it for hours.
In the UK coins are a no brainer, on coins you can legally hold and sell with any profit made not being included in capital gains so not taxed as part of your yearly income.
There is usually a premium on minted coins.. it’s my opinion the one ounce is one ounce. So unless you have aspirations of numismatic value/ collectible value which is actually quite rare. Not to mention the fact that in these times of uncertainty minted coins of any nation may not ever be worth more then the price of the bullion. This is what makes a collectible coin either and extremely low production or a minting error where a few get released from the mint.. that’s pretty much it a coin that is neither rare or struck with error will not gain in value other then the price of the metal
I've been thinking of starting a gold collection since I was a kid! I've been doing alot of research and what I've learned is that gold is gold lol! I've always wanted to own coins over bars personally, I just think they're neat
@@jimboramba numismatics are just pure rip off. Gold is gold, no 1 will care when it gets to that time, people will care about grams and ounces. Dont buy into that numismatic palava!
@@CampbellsCoins Apologies for the question if its stupid (new to this) But I was left with the impression that when buying gold to invest in , you have to buy it for as cheap as possible and the most quantity for that price as possible(the 24 carat one) . Here in Spain we also have the coins stated above in the video and gold bars and my idea was to invest my money in a few 100gram 24 carat bars from C Hafner as its the best price right now. So my surprise was that in all pages I see here, including some jewelry stores, they are paying for the gold not by the looks of it and possible premium but for the total weight of the gold and purity . So in that case, if I want to invest my money (and have them protected from the possible upcoming digital currency), what is that the reason behind coins, if at the end of the day, they are going to be treated by how much they weight and not for what they are ? Or do i get that premium when selling them BUT only at very special places ? Thank you for your time mate if you read this. Cheers
@@thesteammachine1282 Not a stupid question at all. Some people buy gold as an investment. I don't view gold as an investment. If you just want to own gold and you don't care what you have, buy the cheapest, most pure items. Certain pieces will offer more benefits over others, this is why certain coins are more appealing to folks over bars or even other gold coins. This greatly depends on your location though. I typically tell people to stack according to the coin or bar popular in their country; ie gold buffalo here in America. In certain parts of the East they prefer PAMP gold bars. Not sure what that looks like for those in Spain. Hope this helps.
Very comprehensive video here, great job! I prefer coins because they are more recognized, more popular, I like them better, and there is the potential for numismatic value. 🔥🦈🌊
Remarkable how you just ramble on and on, why don't you just get to the answer gold coin vs. gold bar???????? Another You-tuber who likes to just hear themselves ramble and ramble on.
Another individual who thinks their point is valid because they are typing on a keyboard. I give perspectives of each so that people can make up their own damn mind what is good for them, their situation and where they live. There isn't an end all be all answer to this question, especially when it comes to gold.
Couple corrections: 1. More coins (not volume but individual SKUs) are produced by private Mints than government Mints. For example, Scottsdale Mint strikes coins for over 20 government central banks. 2. Coin premium is higher than bar premium due to the fact that there is a royalty paid to the government or issuing bank of coins.
I wanted an inflation hedge and after checking around I find that the round trip cost to convert dollars to gold and back to dollars when needed can be from 11 percent to 15 or 16 percent. Remember to add in shipping and insurance costs if buying online and in some cases local coin shops charge sales tax which adds even more. That means today if I buy gold it will have to appreciate approx $225 to $265 just for me to break even ! That means instantly after the transaction to buy gold I lose 11 to 15 percent. I cannot rationalize how this is a good investment unless I think the dollar is going to drop to near zero which I dont thing it will completely collapse.
@@patrickr2686 My channel is an explanation as to why not. The primary reason of an investment is to make a profit and generate income. Gold doesn't generate income. Buying gold to make a profit should not be the reason you hold gold. Gold is insurance and wealth preservation.
@@patrickr2686 Yeah, he's right. But he doesn't say go into gold because it's an investment. He tells people to go into gold to preserve the wealth they would lose in a crashing stock market.
I don't know how it is in the USA but in other countries bars will be subject to sale/VAT tax but coins not because you are technically just swapping legal tender/cash not trading gold
Royal mint UK charges about 8% premium on gold bullion coins I think. They certainly are art pieces. I worked out since gold has increased 18% over the past 6 mnths or so people would make 10% over 6 months. That's better than UK pension funds which, if you dont manage them will gain a measly 6% a year on average! Sell privately on forums or online marketplaces and you can get some of the premium back of course too. More money to be made with bars but 3 or 4% less profit for the privilege of owning historic art and the inspiration to learn what the art means is worth it for the knowlege alone. You will be making alot more money than using pensions or banks and that money is their money until you draw it out... And it is taxed (gold or currency isnt). If they will let you draw it out that is. UK pensions don't give people full access to the funds. Banks will ask loads of questions and get you to fill out loads of forms just to get to your money (which has hardly appreciated at all). Meanwhile, they are likely investing your money and making 30 to 60% returns for themselves! Especially in the past 5 years or so! 😮😄😮
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Purity levels sounds like a good vid to make
Are there actual gold Buffalo Nickles?
@@peaceevol No. Those are gold buffalos, a bullion coin. Much bigger than a nickle.
@@CampbellsCoins that is why you are the king of coins
Thanks B͏i͏g Guy
Purity video please!
As someone who worked with refiners, I always looked at all precious metals at their scrap value.. when everything goes to hell in a basket, I don't feel that anyone will care whether your one ounce of gold is considered to be a collector piece verses just one plain ounce of gold. The truth is, gold is gold, it's an element on the chart, there is no finer 24k gold over other 24k gold. Remember, gold is gold, buy it at the best price, not on collectibility.
So you're only getting gold when everything goes to hell? I think people can do both. There will be a moment when things are bad. There will be times like now where people see collectibility. Thanks for your input!
@@CampbellsCoins
I respect your opinion. There's nothing wrong with collecting gold or silver coins for investment. I agree it's another way to diversify your assets. I suppose my opinion stems from dealing with refiners over the years who asseyed the precious metal scrap that I sent them. I do know this however, with the gold and silver coins that are in the safe, if in the event of a fire where the heat was such they all melted down into one lump...I could send that lump to the refiner who would pay me the market value of the melted gold or silver coins, not the collectability, why? Because gold is gold and silver is silver and that's all that I have. Just my opinion only.
@@jimmarlo363 I see and agree with your point...to a point haha. Have a good one.
Everything has already gone to hell. Sure it can get worse. The thing is, value = value. There will *always* be higher demand for rare things than common things, even if we all go full Mad Max. Since gold has no practical use in a SHTF scenario, it is purely a matter of perceived value. If i am trading you gold for 'hydro' in our Mad Max future, I will give you more for a rare form than for a common form.
So as long as everything isn't going to hell, premium and other factors count. I agree.
Bars are more difficult to sell since they need to be tested more thoroughly because they don’t have standards like coins. Counterfeit coins are very easy to spot if you know what to look for but bars are more tricky. Go coins for stack
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I feel that coins are overvalued. The odds of eagle stackers running into another 1933 double eagle scenario are a trillion to one. 1 ounce bullion bars are the way to go!
What you like is what you like. If I don't buy coins, I kind of prefer cool looking rounds. On my desk right now, I have a silver eagle, a 1 ounce bullet shaped silver thingy, and a 2 ounce silver themed round (not a coin). These are my silver toys. I also have a 20 ounce tube I handle because - why not? I never plan to sell it anyway, and if I get so desperate that I have to , I'm effed anyway, so who cares about the 20% I lost by diving into it a la Scrooge McDuck?
Please do purity level video. Great content btw, probably my favourite most informative metals channel
So good to know which is best. Thanks for NOT telling us.
Indeed !
Now this is a quality video brother
Thank you!
Unless you are wealthy enough to have a big, secure vault in your home, where will you store all your gold? And when you have an order shipped to your home, the delivery driver and others will know you are a stacker and now your chances of being robbed are greatly increased. Better to buy land. It can't be stolen and its value will always go up over time.
The government can steal your land and they don't even have to wait for you to leave your house.
In U.K. buy U.K. coins as they’re exempt from CGT due to being strictly speaking being Legal Tender.
I know anything about buying gold or silver but I'm thinking about buying a good amount of physical silver and a small amount of gold.
Congrats on making the first steps to getting some!
This was extraordinarily helpful to me.
Bars because i can off load them in other countries easier than same foreign coin
What's the coin with the native, on the left side, I never seen it (I'm french), thank you !
Coins are better because you can flip 'em.
Anything can be flipped with enough thumb power haha. Plus, I can stack bars...not well mind you, but I can.
Love it
Make the 2 cents wheat pennies n u got a deal
If buying bulk, get more for you dough. Simple
I am often conflicted on which is better, bars or coins? So being inheritantly lazy.. I just take the easy way out, I just buy the yellow stuff.
[The irony of gold]
Gold is something that man has always sought and has always been digging up...
When he feels He has dug up enough..
He buries it
Great video! I prefer 10oz gold/silver bullion bars. Gold is backed by itself and it will be paid/bought/sold depending on weight and purity anywhere in the world.
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I hear buddy but i am sure now and forever 10 1oz AGEs will sell for more than a 10oz bar.
@@someguyontheinternet7628 you probably paid more for AGE than he did for his bar though
@@9thman701 no doubt
But 70 graded numismatic coins has shown to outperform bullion historically over and over
I switched to the Britannia in both Gold and Silver versions. The security features are top quality and the retail prices are the lowest of all popular bullion coins, sometimes just as affordable as bars. The 100 gram Swiss bars shown here are choice. I'd gladly trade in Silver towards something like that, if and when the ration tightens up. It's a good way for a stacker to get into a bigger Gold bar.
Agree on the Britannia! High security and (at least currently) low premium.
I agree! Personally I like the Maples but have both. Be blessed!
I've been buying soveriegns i think the older ones may have way more value in the coin collector market and a local shop sells them for very little above spot price no matter the year/condition
This a Serious Question no Flex or some something… currently i have
6000€ either for
12x 1/4oz Britannia's
or
10x 10g Gold Bars
what should i get? im from Europe and many people said coins more a US thing in the EU its more about Gold Bars but other channel always say get both or just bars bc coints not that good etc im new into all this 'Gold Investment' stuff 😅
@@xHighRoller salute bradaz sounds good on your kickstart , i would suggest to split them between coins and bars , most bars are kept in plastic cover which will lose some value when you sell them later if you open and play/hold with it,but if you are going the long term you will cover the loss for sure. coins you can play/hold and most of the time legit and easy to verify upon sellback , hope that helps bradaboss ⭐
Locally in a 100,000 populated area I could not sell bars. They wouldn't take them. Went to large city to convert to US American eagles. I would check this kind of situation out where you reside. Obviously, the big city with over one million population had no problem taking the bars. This happened summer 2020.
Hi, i lived in a similarly sized midwest town, in the middle of a cornfield. The 2 local coin shops will take the bars, but at a very low prize. They do will prefer AGEs and buffalos every day of the week.
never buy bars ...canadian maple, buffalo, austrian...they will always sell quick, universally known. Bars are very very difficult to sell, lots of fraud, and most people are no experts, so they shy away. If someone does buy them, you will a crappy price for them.
Traditionally bars are always cheaper. The intricacies of coin designs usually command higher premiums
Agree. The tax reporting also has something to do with the higher premiums.
@@CampbellsCoins I'm speaking from a collector stand point. The only thing I stack are peace and morgans. The logic like so many claim is an insurance that keeps our Dollar current with Inflation. I try to buy and sell some quality numismatic coins, mostly silver, some gold, not much copper
*also...
I enjoyed the tax discussion
@@CampbellsCoins for that reason I rather buy bars I hurd when you sell a gold coin you have to pay taxes on it
@@bronxbully6261 It's the reverse. No taxes on gold coins in most European nations.
I can’t believe that at my age I am so ignorant regarding precious metal. Thank you
I have both coins and bars but I love the coins better because coins are recognized by all people as money. Same with silver.
Gold maples all the way for me, highly liquid and globally recognised
btw, nobody with any sense would think about selling gold to a pawnshop. They will try to scam you.
Some definitely will!
For me, in the UK, I buy coins that are legal tender because then it doesn't attract capital gains tax but bars seem to have better value here.
Any info for a fellow brit on where and what to buy in the UK
@@martinpip8212 buy Britannias and sovereigns from Atkinson's chards or Baird mint see which is cheapest at the time. Cheers
@@martinpip8212same here
UK - gold coins have benefits over any other precious metal investment. Vat free + CGT free. Royal Mint digigold is also a very good way to get in into the precious metal market, regular savings invested in digigold can them be transfered to physical gold
@@martinpip8212 hey man im sorry i never saw this reply, i don't know why. Buy sovereigns and britannias from atkinsons or chards
Months ago, a one ounce Una and the Lion gold bar was selling for about the same price as one ounce gold coins with only 4,000 made. An absolutely awesome deal!
That is a nice looking bar!
Nice find I did that with a limited run bond gold coin (can't buy one now 😂)
Hello everyone, i need someone help me get the answer of this question, lets say ww3 started and paper currency became worthless, here is an example: i have 2 kg of gold bars , and guy has 1 kg of gold but in 100 grams, and a guy who has 1 kg in gold coins. who will have the best chance to buy stuff and get full benefit of the gold he has, some might not understand my point , sorry for my bad English. To make it clear , when ww3 ends i wanted to buy a horse i cant just give the seller 1 kg of gold in one bar i will give him 10 golden coins . So what i just said just now proofs gold coins are more useful than gold bars in wars or in bad situations.
It depends on your objective and the price to spot you can get. Are you a collector , store of value, trader, monetary reset prepper? I like to keep 10% of my net worth in gold/silver and never sell. Bars at 2-4% above spot is fine. No need for 15%+ premium for coins. Value of coin gets inflated away and if dollar fails, 1 oz coin isn't going to be worth anymore than 1 oz bar , with respect to premium paid.
I only buy bars from ABC Australian and Perth mint ! Their coins are tops always ! They have most the products too !
I want to invest in pure gold and silver bars. Not the fancy ones you show in your video. They look nice but I refuse to pay a premium because they look pretty.
The Bar I have my eye on is the 100oz RCM but there are a few different coins that are ahead on my list.
I know exactly what you're going through. My head says to get low premium gold as often as possible. The collector in me says "screw that guy, get what you love". Haha. When my LCS showed me the proof buffalo, I literally said "I hate you", because he was derailing my stacking strategy! What coins are you getting before the RCM? Thanks BA!
I just talked with my LCS about this. He actually made it easy to understand. All he had was Maples and Eagles. This is what he was selling and buying. But he said Eagles are highly preferred.
Only in the U.S
Well the sad problem is Eagles are not .9999 24 k gold, Bufflo are and there is a huge price difference. I love Bufflo’s but they do not make 1/4 oz coins. I only buy 1/4 gold 24 k gold coins. I am now looking in to buying 5 gram to 10 gram bars of 24 k gold. Because at times there is a price brake when buying bars.
I hate bars ... They are much trickier to validate since they don't have published dimensions and are usually stuck in the annoying assay which make it difficult to test unless you have a Sigma. Coins are much easier to test. This comes in handy if you ever sell them to an individual who wants to test them before buying.
This point is key, whether you're buying GM stock, or gold bars: You don't buy at the peak of the market---unless you've got a sure buyer who will pay more than you do.
Eh… disagree unless you’re trying to short sell for a quick profit. Timing the market is impossible, especially for average trader. I buy gold whether it’s up or down - couldn’t care less.
Because when I go to sell my stack thirty or forty years later I have no doubt it’ll hedge against inflation and I’ll be able to save myself from being robbed slowly by the fed printing trillions of dollars into thin air.
@@jond181 You cannot reliably calculate ROI on any investment 30 or 40 years out.
_Gold minted bars especially in an assay package have a higher value than Gold ‘cast’ bars of the same weight. Nevertheless, you can definitely negotiate a higher premium on your minted bars in an assay package_
I dont have a lot of money , especially now when theyre are other priorities that must come first like paying down debt. Been buying fractional gold bars when ever I can as a long term investment, first with Pamp 2.5gm sizes now worked up to the 5gm. I am hoping to start buying the 10gm sizes as I know the larger the size the less over spot price.
Don't worry about the premium you pay, it will come back to you when you sell. Exceptions of course would be selling to a LCS or any wholesaler.
Your smart to stack - no matter what the amount. I think you will be very happy in the near future.
Do what you can, when you can. At least you are stacking, 99% of the world isn't.
@@CampbellsCoins I hear you bud , tryin to buy silver n some gold at least once a month.
@@billyhurst4319 That great!
I own more coins than bars. Some places are very skeptical of bars when selling due to the amount of fakes. From my experience, govt minted coins are also much easier to sell than bars. I really love gold Buffalos and Eagles but I’d take a 1oz PAMP bar over a 1oz kangaroo coin. On the plus side, bars tend to have lower premiums.
What's wrong with the kangaroo or is that just personal preference?
100% all great points man! I agree, especially on the perception of bars and fakes and liquidity. Thanks for watching! 😎👊
@@anthonytanner2343 lol personal preference but my point was I’d buy either one! Stack on mate 😎👌
Today both have high premiums
Coin it’s no values to another country…. Waste the money to gold coin .. coin just for in U.S.A .. if you selling gold coin out side of U.S … you loose 50% value
That is stupid. I dont care sbout collectibles. All i care about is the purity and price. Period
It's a good thing lots of people don't think like you.
Now I wish I had spent my coin on bars...not in bars. Ha...Good video, thanks.
HA! You and me both! You realize it now and that's the most important take away. Thanks for watching.
When i see 10gram of gold bar price is $900 and collectable gold price is $900 but only 8gram, I will take the 10gram gold.
It's crazy to think that gold is so rare on earth that all gold ever mined would fill 3 1/2 Olympic sized swimming pools!
American gold coin no good… we not buy gold coin..
I have 90% world gold as well as fractional bars and modern bullion coins. I try to buy it all for the sake of diversification, and also, this stuff is reaaaaal pretty.
Hahaha yes! Buy what you like and go for diversity if that's what you love 👏. Thanks for watching 😎👊
Depends where you live. In some countries certain coins do not incur sales tax, but bars do.
To me it seems that fake bars would be easier to male than fake coins. If the society goes south I believe a 10 acre farm with its own water source would more valuable than either. A two or more acre farm pond could hold enough fish to supply a family’s protein needs.
Good grief Ppl, an ONCE of Gold is a unit of measure! It could be shaped like a S**e**X toy, as long it's an ounce of gold.....
My personal experience with Silver and Gold. Mostly the Silver.
If you expect to get Spot or a Premium. Never touch your newly Mented coins with your Bair hands.
Unscrupulous coins dealers deduct for anything but perfect condition.
Will most likely cost you 10% to buy and sell. So 20%
Something to consider.
I have 3, 1/10oz gold rounds got them when the price of 1/ 10oz eagles price went up. Found a online dealer with price I'm willing to pay for 1/10oz eagles, going to continue filling tube with 1/10oz eagles for the rest of the year one at a time 🤑🇺🇲🇺🇲
Gold is gold. A mixture of both rounds and AGE is hardly a bad choice. Smart to keep that dollar cost average low.
Coins. If you have a 5 ounce gold piece you can’t kind of break that up and use it separately where is if you’ve got a bunch of coins you can give them anywhere from 1 to 1 to 5 coins.
Valcambi CombiBars. You can give them any number of grams.
I’d buy what I can afford a half ounce First Lady or first spouse 9999 find gold is the cheapest for me. I pay about $50 over a spot per ounce
Thank you for this video. Me and my wife are looking to start investing in gold as a way to have solid value in our hands at all times. We have looked at buying land as well so in either case there is physically something there of value. My uncle is a big proponent of this, invest in physical items as they are always worth something and they go up big time through the years with inflation and demand. Much more solid than stocks alone.
🙏 thanks for watching. I'm glad you're starting to look into gold as an asset to own.
I am also looking into this, I lost my husband so nobody to bounce all of these decisions off . Hence trying to learn from people wiser than me on the subject (Thank you for the video). Right now debating paying off the mortgage for security, or investing in precious metals. Retirement planning is harder than I thought, with many pitfalls. My parents always taught me you throw everything into property, land and anything physical. My only worry is choosing someone reputable to deal with, to avoid the scams, also learning that it is best to not buy to high over the spot price, for resale? Although a lot of the nicer pieces are higher in price.
@@sharonms7 Thank you! I'm sorry for your loss. If you have a fix rate on your mortgage, I don't see the rush. Debt can be a good thing sometimes, especially if you're able to pay it off and the rate isn't variable. As to what pieces to choose from, that really depends on where you live. If you're in the US, I use an LCS called Avenue Coin. Very reputable with competitive pricing.
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John Wick answered this question quite clearly
Only reason to buy coin is if its same price as bar which doesn't happen often. The same person buying a coin if SHTF will also buy a bar. You waste your money but do get something cooler to look at with coin. Yes you get more when you go to sell but rarely ever anymore than the premium you paid.
If you don’t have God and a genuine relationship with Jesus, your broke no matter the gold.
Jeremiah 29:13
You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart.
I hope this means something to somebody. People have literally came back from death describing the horrors of hell and God has offered us a way out through the blood of His Son Jesus. Our sin has consequences. I’m not advertising a religion, some of the rudest people I’ve met have been religious, Im more talking about developing a genuine relationship with God. I don’t know who will be reading this or where their mind is at, but I’ve had more than my fair share of answered prayers and just cool experiences involving God and Jesus. I’ve personally been convinced. I would be wrong not to try and tell others, even if humans can be stubborn. I just hope atleast somebody reading this seeks God with a genuine heart and study the Bible. Be wise about it, things don’t happen over night, but maybe get some help understanding the Bible and listen to some testimonies from others concerning God/ Jesus because there is a lot of them. :)
Thanks for sharing! I'm a huge Libertad fan.the Koalas are fantastic! And I think the Brittania Gold coin is the best of them all. Can't stand the American or Krugerrand because of the copper. I don't own any of them excepting fractional unfortunately
What is the ratio of gold bars sold to gold coins by the large bullion dealers ? To me stacking gold is about price per oz so I stick with buying well know minted bars. Just bought my first two coins just to have a few.
hands down, the coins are better if you are moving large amounts on money between countries legally. when you go threw the borders the law states that you only have to declare the face value of the coins/ currency that you hold. so a coin wait in gold may be 2 grand so say 5 1oz gold bars about 10k is the limit when moving threw countries, the Gold coins you can carry a few of them when the 1 oz face value of the gold coin is 5 bucks. pretty funny system.
Thanks the comment helped me go for coins
Be careful. Many EU countries stipulate that you have to declare the market value of your gold coins when it exceeds the face value, even if the coin is deemed to be legal tender. This is not the case for silver coins; if you are caught carrying a significant amount of silver (> €10,000) there's no charge for smuggling, but you can still be made to fill out a declaration. Check the regulation of the countries your are importing to.
Coins are cool, but bars are where it's at!
And I'm loling at the size of the " bar " next to the coins 😂, bigger bars are where it's at! Not those tiny ones 😂, I would honestly prefer a coin then if I could only afford that much.
Saying that now, Pamp is a scam 😂😂😂 Paying high premium for a little bit.... they decided to sell overpriced little amounts 😂🤦♂️🤦♂️
I just picked up 2 silver ounces to start off my journey, I will make sure to save up large amounts for gold, that's where the money's at, not $50-$200 orders, I'd like a nice Kilo of gold 👀
For me RCM products are the best. Silver maple leafs look amazing as do the 10 oz silver bars. Also the gold leafs and 1 oz gold bars are awesome.
When time is bad, means your country at war , you on the run.....etc , It doesn't really matter! A Rolex might be better in some case!
Before watching the video: I just mix them, i go with the 100 gramm bars, nothing else in the "bar section". Everything else i go with 1 ounce gold oins, eagles, britannias etc.
Coins are something pretty to look at, bars are meant to hold wealth. Bars are better
Is it ok to melt the gold coins and make jewelry out of them?
Yeah, it's your gold, do with it as you please.
my comment on the silver version of this topic I mentioned I like to buy 10oz silver bars .
But from the gold stand point I buy strictly gold coins usually Buffalo’s , eagles maples and krugerrands . I do have a few other coins but mostly those mentioned above . As far as bars I only have a few small fractional 5gram 10 gram bars but usually I stay away from gold bars . Even though I’m saving up for a 10oz Johnson Matthey pressed bar that my LCS is holding on for me . But that 10oz bar savings usually gets dipped into for 1oz gold coins on the dip of the spot market.
Great topic thanks for the video great job .
Im ready to cut some assay cards
Could you give us your opinion on the Valcambi bars? (New stacker here). Thanks. Great lessons on your channel!!
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Barón De Rothschilds
Lord Jacob or CHARLES JACOB OF THE ROTHSCHILDS FAMILY.
Bars, unless they are fractional coins. But premiums may be so low coins are better. Then get the gold coin...especially buffalos.
I think that the coins look nicer but that the bars taste so much better, especially the ones made in Germania.
I love gold! The look of it! The smell of it! The taste of it! The texture!
I love gold so much that I lost 1/2 my ass in an unfortunate military smelting procedure.
Hence the name... Sgt. SillyAss.
Upvote for "I don't trust the government now, and I don't expect that to change soon".
Thanks for the video. Just getting started in this and looking forward to consuming your content.
😎 Appreciate you for stopping by!
Coins are easir to sell and more popular
Bars are more interesting to look at but can be easily faked.
Look at the argor heraeus kinebar. I could stare at it for hours.
Buying bars is the way to go.
In the UK coins are a no brainer, on coins you can legally hold and sell with any profit made not being included in capital gains so not taxed as part of your yearly income.
Great! Thanks for the input.
I remove gold from asset cards.
There is usually a premium on minted coins.. it’s my opinion the one ounce is one ounce. So unless you have aspirations of numismatic value/ collectible value which is actually quite rare. Not to mention the fact that in these times of uncertainty minted coins of any nation may not ever be worth more then the price of the bullion. This is what makes a collectible coin either and extremely low production or a minting error where a few get released from the mint.. that’s pretty much it a coin that is neither rare or struck with error will not gain in value other then the price of the metal
I buy only rounds I think bars are too easy to fake.
I've been thinking of starting a gold collection since I was a kid!
I've been doing alot of research and what I've learned is that gold is gold lol! I've always wanted to own coins over bars personally, I just think they're neat
When u buy a bar u feel a sense of achievement, with coins your like whats this lol
coins are for admiring, (cast) bars are for handling. i'm not a fan of minted bars as they're a bit tacky imo.
@@NGRevenant minted bars are amazing and neat
Bars are nice to have just in case you do need to cash in, that way you don't sell any coins which may have numismatic value.
@@jimboramba numismatics are just pure rip off. Gold is gold, no 1 will care when it gets to that time, people will care about grams and ounces. Dont buy into that numismatic palava!
I'll take unmelted gold core still embeded in rock if I can get it cheaper
Canadian Maples also come in 1 gram coins.
In short they are both the same. Different shapes and sizes, but the same.
The same metal, yes. The same benefits, no.
@@CampbellsCoins Apologies for the question if its stupid (new to this) But I was left with the impression that when buying gold to invest in , you have to buy it for as cheap as possible and the most quantity for that price as possible(the 24 carat one) . Here in Spain we also have the coins stated above in the video and gold bars and my idea was to invest my money in a few 100gram 24 carat bars from C Hafner as its the best price right now. So my surprise was that in all pages I see here, including some jewelry stores, they are paying for the gold not by the looks of it and possible premium but for the total weight of the gold and purity . So in that case, if I want to invest my money (and have them protected from the possible upcoming digital currency), what is that the reason behind coins, if at the end of the day, they are going to be treated by how much they weight and not for what they are ?
Or do i get that premium when selling them BUT only at very special places ?
Thank you for your time mate if you read this.
Cheers
@@thesteammachine1282 Not a stupid question at all. Some people buy gold as an investment. I don't view gold as an investment. If you just want to own gold and you don't care what you have, buy the cheapest, most pure items. Certain pieces will offer more benefits over others, this is why certain coins are more appealing to folks over bars or even other gold coins. This greatly depends on your location though. I typically tell people to stack according to the coin or bar popular in their country; ie gold buffalo here in America. In certain parts of the East they prefer PAMP gold bars. Not sure what that looks like for those in Spain. Hope this helps.
Very comprehensive video here, great job! I prefer coins because they are more recognized, more popular, I like them better, and there is the potential for numismatic value.
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Thanks brother, that's an excellent point. Overall, I think people are better off with coins but god forbid one gives an opinion on RUclips 😂
@@CampbellsCoins yeah I totally get all your disclaimers lol comments can be savage. Oh yeah you didn’t mention Britannia’s security features 😜
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@@SilverOceans 😂😂😂 social media / internet in a nutshell.
Very informative! Thanks for posting.
PRICE!
Coins like the Buffalo Gold Coins are easier to sell because it's a lower amount which more can afford to buy off your hands!
Remarkable how you just ramble on and on, why don't you just get to the answer gold coin vs. gold bar???????? Another You-tuber
who likes to just hear themselves ramble and ramble on.
Another individual who thinks their point is valid because they are typing on a keyboard. I give perspectives of each so that people can make up their own damn mind what is good for them, their situation and where they live. There isn't an end all be all answer to this question, especially when it comes to gold.
Great video.
Though out of curiosity, what about silver bars?
Does some of the stuff you explained apply to silver as well?
Thank you! Silver version coming out in the next couple of weeks. Some points here apply to silver, some differs.
@@CampbellsCoins thank you sir
I got a ten ounce bar from Perth Australian mint …
Couple corrections:
1. More coins (not volume but individual SKUs) are produced by private Mints than government Mints. For example, Scottsdale Mint strikes coins for over 20 government central banks.
2. Coin premium is higher than bar premium due to the fact that there is a royalty paid to the government or issuing bank of coins.
the Canadian Mint does over 100
Also the sale of coins is not taxed
I wanted an inflation hedge and after checking around I find that the round trip cost to convert dollars to gold and back to dollars when needed can be from 11 percent to 15 or 16 percent. Remember to add in shipping and insurance costs if buying online and in some cases local coin shops charge sales tax which adds even more. That means today if I buy gold it will have to appreciate approx $225 to $265 just for me to break even ! That means instantly after the transaction to buy gold I lose 11 to 15 percent. I cannot rationalize how this is a good investment unless I think the dollar is going to drop to near zero which I dont thing it will completely collapse.
Gold isn't an investment.
@Campbell's Coins please explain
The reason I ask is because Robert Kiyosaki Rich Dad Poor Dad says F the stock market buy gold
@@patrickr2686 My channel is an explanation as to why not. The primary reason of an investment is to make a profit and generate income. Gold doesn't generate income. Buying gold to make a profit should not be the reason you hold gold. Gold is insurance and wealth preservation.
@@patrickr2686 Yeah, he's right. But he doesn't say go into gold because it's an investment. He tells people to go into gold to preserve the wealth they would lose in a crashing stock market.
I don't know how it is in the USA but in other countries bars will be subject to sale/VAT tax but coins not because you are technically just swapping legal tender/cash not trading gold
Opinion: Bars are Bars , but U.S mint gold coins are our national history. I am proud to own them.
I like the pre-1933s especially.
Ya they are better
The old ones maybe. I refuse to directly pay the government for good
Royal mint UK charges about 8% premium on gold bullion coins I think. They certainly are art pieces. I worked out since gold has increased 18% over the past 6 mnths or so people would make 10% over 6 months.
That's better than UK pension funds which, if you dont manage them will gain a measly 6% a year on average! Sell privately on forums or online marketplaces and you can get some of the premium back of course too.
More money to be made with bars but 3 or 4% less profit for the privilege of owning historic art and the inspiration to learn what the art means is worth it for the knowlege alone.
You will be making alot more money than using pensions or banks and that money is their money until you draw it out... And it is taxed (gold or currency isnt). If they will let you draw it out that is.
UK pensions don't give people full access to the funds. Banks will ask loads of questions and get you to fill out loads of forms just to get to your money (which has hardly appreciated at all). Meanwhile, they are likely investing your money and making 30 to 60% returns for themselves! Especially in the past 5 years or so! 😮😄😮
Opinion: Gold is gold and I want some 😂
Whatever is "physically" MORE...
- The End...
Those are some GREAT looking gold pieces. I heard in America, it’s all about coins. In Europe and abroad, it’s all about bars. I love both!
Bars you take 20/procent more monney in sell.
Have to comment to change to 667. Thank me later
Www very heavy gold coins for me to have
This Video: Which is better, a $100 bill folded into a swan or a $100 bill folded into a star?
Totally.
🤣, invest the paper and fold up some "cheaper paper"