How Is the VShojo Timeline So Complicated?!

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  • Опубликовано: 19 ноя 2024

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  • @Ezzydesu
    @Ezzydesu Год назад +328

    I am surprised MatPat hasn't jumped on all this yet.. So far Raelice is the closest to what we have for a VTuber lore theorist

    • @U1TR4F0RCE
      @U1TR4F0RCE Год назад +6

      You’ve also done good lore theory/prediction videos Ezzy

    • @U1TR4F0RCE
      @U1TR4F0RCE Год назад +2

      @Magnus What's his current fandom like? I know that if I was to do a mapping having been a fan of his content in 2013-2015 definitely was an ingredient in leading me to watch and enjoy VShojo stuff but really haven't kept up since he started having multiple channels and since ComicDrake and Gaijin Goombah left.

    • @bonogiamboni4830
      @bonogiamboni4830 Год назад +2

      There's also stevesekai.

    • @lordzaboem
      @lordzaboem Год назад +2

      I'm not sure what you mean by "closest to" because a vtuber lore theorist is exactly what Raelice is.

    • @somedudewatchintv5297
      @somedudewatchintv5297 Год назад +1

      There's also Steve Sekai who covers Hololive and Nijisanji lore.

  • @EpicNerdsWithCameras
    @EpicNerdsWithCameras Год назад +75

    "I don't do things just because I'm bored."
    Mouse lied as naturally as she breathed.

  • @kla4600
    @kla4600 Год назад +65

    Keep in mind that Kson's birthdate constantly moves forward in time (in the past), so it's perpetually 22 years ago. Update accordingly.

  • @seinhaokip7240
    @seinhaokip7240 Год назад +247

    Vshojo lore is one of the best in all Vtuber lore. Props to Merry for writing such an amazing lore. Also great vid by Raelice.

    • @otaking3582
      @otaking3582 Год назад +3

      No, it's actually the worst

    • @TheSteam02
      @TheSteam02 Год назад +12

      @@otaking3582 seethe

    • @MRKING2030
      @MRKING2030 Год назад +12

      @@otaking3582 Cope

    • @otaking3582
      @otaking3582 Год назад +1

      @@MRKING2030 You're just using that word without knowing what it means because you don't have an actual argument

    • @MRKING2030
      @MRKING2030 Год назад +5

      @@otaking3582 keep coping

  • @KingOfDoma
    @KingOfDoma Год назад +23

    I do enjoy VTuber lore. As an old fan of internet reviewers, unneccesary-and-nonsense-yet-epic backstory is One Of My Interests.

  • @TimEd.o7o7
    @TimEd.o7o7 Год назад +9

    That Kson/Nazuna Pettan miss was hilarious and caught me off guard. Well done, whoever did that (either the editor or the original video Mouse was watching).

  • @grizzlyindustries7593
    @grizzlyindustries7593 Год назад +35

    Whew! I feel relived knowing that Nyanner's Milking stream is pivotal to the lore.

  • @mrcwillis6970
    @mrcwillis6970 Год назад +46

    Aren’t alot of timelines that have many powerful anime characters and much lore are very complicated? Oh well it’s super cool and we love these Vtubers. 💝

  • @RamDragon32
    @RamDragon32 Год назад +8

    I talked breifly with someone who writes lore for vShojo... and this convoluted timeline makes perfect sense.

  • @GBlastMan
    @GBlastMan Год назад +15

    KSon even if she is fully human i think she has the spirit of an ancient dragon or dragons going throught her and she can channel the arcane power and raw strenght of one to beat up even the baddest and strongest of punks out there.

  • @yveshku5583
    @yveshku5583 Год назад +30

    I just started watching Ironmouse and Nyanners years back because they were just fun to watch. I never could have expected back then that there would be layers of lore that I would become interested in.

  • @onemoment6769
    @onemoment6769 Год назад +5

    Ha, I've found a perfect way around this. I've never even tried to understand the timeline and just watched Ironmouse make funny noises. It works great.

  • @TOrlando478
    @TOrlando478 Год назад +103

    At this point I'm pretty sure the vshojo mythos is as confusing as when matpat tried to string together the entire lore of fnaf

    • @blindthrasher7293
      @blindthrasher7293 Год назад +5

      Isn't he still trying to piece it together to this day?

    • @ObsidianOsama
      @ObsidianOsama Год назад +8

      ​@@blindthrasher7293 he wont stop until scott stops and scott wont stop until he dies it seems

    • @TOrlando478
      @TOrlando478 Год назад +3

      @@blindthrasher7293 exactly

    • @U1TR4F0RCE
      @U1TR4F0RCE Год назад +1

      Since this video that Mouse watched there was the fight with Mel from the future seemingly eliminating her. It appears as though Ironmouse from the future might have control of current Ironmouse's body or at the very least has taken over hell. Gabriel who Ironmouse fought against as an angel has been attacked by Corpse Husband who is also interested in taking over hell. Haruka has been freed from the seed of life after some of it was drained and joined GunRun to help save the world as Nyanners having lost power by not draining sanity went crazy summoned the beacon then intercepted Azathot before being defeated. We learn Froot gave Ironmouse the secret to be able to travel more long term to Earth from the Underworld and lives somewhere mostly hidden from other parts of hell. As well as that she was a lich before being burned leading to her being in the underworld.
      Oh we also learned that Melody was tasked by Gunrun to select the members of VShojo and that Kson was selected because of her connection with Nazuna.

    • @TOrlando478
      @TOrlando478 Год назад +1

      @@U1TR4F0RCE Well done on writing almost a bible's worth of information to catch me up on everything.

  • @MysteryAGMLegend
    @MysteryAGMLegend Год назад +3

    Hime? I don’t remember a Hime, is she a mythical being like certain Pokémon? Is Hime really a Pokémon in disguise? The world may never know.

  • @trevorghalt1881
    @trevorghalt1881 Год назад +8

    Talking about some great moms in cartoons, nice and Raelice did a fantastic job putting all the lore together in a video

  • @ghostdroid3030
    @ghostdroid3030 Год назад +5

    Why does this remind me of the FNAF timeline MatPat tries to piece together and all of sudden the lore gets more confusing as it goes when he explains it? It's funny but sad at the same time yea...Imma need to watch all those vshojo lore videos after this

  • @alephalon7849
    @alephalon7849 Год назад +4

    You could make a multi-billion dollar movie franchise out of the VShojo timeline.

  • @NamuIsIdle
    @NamuIsIdle Год назад +3

    Now there's even more lore?!?!?!!! Future Melware gets destroyed, Present Melware goes rogue, Ironmouse gets kidnapped by Ironmouse Pro, Nyanners loses her mind and tries to feast on all the humans, Aethel cant beat DarkSouls, Nyanners taunts Haruka, who then breaks her bonds and joins Vshojo, and Veibae is in Japan (probably chilling with Sodapoppin)... now Bubi's going back to hell with Froot to stop Insanomouse and Corpse from trapping Smolmouse back in her box?!?!! Merry is going wacko mode frfr

  • @thatguyjared8560
    @thatguyjared8560 Год назад +5

    Given that Future Melware and Ironmouse didn’t overwrite their present day selves, I’m led to believe that Dragon Zen does still exist somewhere. I’m not quite sure where, but my best guess is that she’s on a deserted island reigning as queen of the geckos

  • @FuzzyStripetail
    @FuzzyStripetail Год назад +22

    Mousey had to think outside of the box to get out of that box she was trapped in as a result of her being bored and wanting to see the Creator.

  • @AtomskPhoenix
    @AtomskPhoenix Год назад +2

    the fact that there is four or five different ironmouse's (or would it be ironmices) canonically hanging out in the same universe, is both amazing and terrifying

  • @steveluvscows2490
    @steveluvscows2490 Год назад +2

    I swear the VShojo Mythos is basically the VTuber equivalent of Kirby Lore.

  • @X0LOTL
    @X0LOTL Год назад +2

    I just want more lore, like Lovecraft mentions Lichs but they're not the same as DnD Lichs, also apparently a Lich can be any race/species, Lovecraft also mentions some satanist so that ties Froot, Nyan (Nyarlathotep) and Mouse into Lovecraft mythos, if we take more of Satan's lore literally it's more complex since Satan was once Lucifer who changed their name into Satan after their fall, there's also God to consider who made Lucifer, the angel hierarchy with Seraphims Cherubims and all those, the vshojo mythos has a lot of material to work with tbh

  • @ChaserYohmoi
    @ChaserYohmoi Год назад +3

    Now we need an updated version with the new newer lore added

  • @ETG715
    @ETG715 Год назад +6

    2 months ago this reaction was cool but then yet again when haruka karibus lore video came out it got a lot more complicated and also Senz rebirth lore

  • @Hell_Soll
    @Hell_Soll Год назад +1

    alright, with that timeline and everything, it's only a matter of time until we get an officiall Vshojo anime with 5 spin-offs and 3 movies... you love to see it

  • @glitchout_303
    @glitchout_303 Год назад +4

    first 25 seconds seemed on point :P
    2:11 face go psin
    3:35 fact :p
    4:20 (yo!) Apricot? nah, dat Froot!
    7:21 zen timeline begin
    8:31 Wait, there's *4* versions of Ironmouse just running around? epic! ^o^

  • @Raees-Divitiae
    @Raees-Divitiae Год назад +2

    This is complete insanity, and I love it!

  • @NZSF150
    @NZSF150 Год назад +1

    Video immediately starts with her simping. Never change Mousey, we love you. :D

  • @StepperBox
    @StepperBox Год назад +1

    I have not researched any vshojo lore, but hearing Nyaners is an edritch being is not surprising in the slightest

  • @daryback7103
    @daryback7103 Год назад +1

    Now I finally know why Mousey acts a treats the Monke as she does... He's an alien to her universe!!!!

  • @TheGuardianXCI
    @TheGuardianXCI Год назад +4

    I admit that I did not understand anything 😅 But that the company of ironmouse is enough to be satisfied 😊

  • @JerseyV90
    @JerseyV90 Год назад +1

    VShojo makes Kingdom Hearts seem like an obvious timeline with no plot holes.

  • @Kyx..
    @Kyx.. Год назад +1

    All I want is froot's lore on how she end up in hell and what's the story like on how she join the group

  • @TWLSpark
    @TWLSpark Год назад +2

    I'm a 500% not going to do my best in that test. Sorry, Mouse, but that punishment is just too good to pass.

  • @lenieldelatorre480
    @lenieldelatorre480 3 месяца назад

    Bubi 's a tsundere he'll say he'll take this world you love svm then destroy it or conquer it
    and destroy you but he's not gonna admit this;he likes being your bestfriend and buddy
    and he wants to hang out with you and have some good times with you again

  • @maldorov6297
    @maldorov6297 Год назад +4

    Pretty sure Kson is something akin to superhuman

  • @theosssak3110
    @theosssak3110 Год назад +1

    Don't threaten me with a good time

  • @Zoten001
    @Zoten001 Год назад +2

    Vshojo lore is DEEP.

  • @TheCreepypro
    @TheCreepypro Год назад

    I too didn't think it was that complicated you live and you learn

  • @tantheman0921
    @tantheman0921 Год назад +1

    I forgot I have the whole stream vod on my watch later playlist. I never finished it 🤣

  • @hendrihendri3939
    @hendrihendri3939 Год назад

    If MatPat isnt constantly dealing with FNAF and Bendy, these could be his next Theorist series xD
    And these Lore could rival both. And he already went mad with both of them xD

  • @LG_Official.
    @LG_Official. Год назад

    This is more complicated than the CGI TTTE timeline and I don't know how to feel about that considering that timeline is more complicated than most video game timelines which are also very complicated most of the time.

  • @_Flame_Pillar_
    @_Flame_Pillar_ Год назад +2

    It's only complicated cause of Merry. It was simple to me.

  • @johnmartinez-valentin5427
    @johnmartinez-valentin5427 Год назад

    4 ironmouse what u can never have enough ironmouse

  • @Ripp816
    @Ripp816 Год назад +1

    Pocahontas was 14-15 in real life, but in the movie she’s 18

  • @lenieldelatorre480
    @lenieldelatorre480 3 месяца назад

    I remember its funny how her husband calls for her whenever he's picked on by SugaMama

  • @THAT1ZELDAFAN
    @THAT1ZELDAFAN Год назад

    Then you get the Trash Taste Dark Timeline.....which is just a headache, but hey, it reveals Mouse's true form, Chris Broad

  • @thetwelfthdoctor9892
    @thetwelfthdoctor9892 Год назад +2

    I don't know what's more complicated: the VShojo Timeline or the Darkest Timeline of Trash Taste

    • @U1TR4F0RCE
      @U1TR4F0RCE Год назад

      Currently I'd say the dark timeline Trash Taste stuff is more complicated, there's only 1 alternative timeline that has had a major story effect with there being two occasions when people travelled back in time from that timeline with Projekt Zen and Super melware/Future Ironmouse. Though I imagine things would be slightly more confusing if you tried to link the timeline to that of all the vtubers featured who aren't VShojo members.
      It might get up there though if Zen gets a story done for something she recently teased which would have a crossover of Dragon Zentrey and Projekt Zentreya.

    • @marcomula1263
      @marcomula1263 Год назад

      Well i would put them in the same place considering that they're connected, as hime is the grandchildren of Garnt and Syd😂

  • @greedier-7661
    @greedier-7661 Год назад +1

    Well that website that showed ages of Disney characters is obviously wrong, as Peter Pan lived over 100 years as he is more of a spirit then a person.
    Pocahontas maybe historically was so old but in the film she clearly is above 20 (as she had no cosmetics to make herself look older like now most young women do)

  • @RomanQrr
    @RomanQrr Год назад

    That's a blast from the past... Like this stream was what, 2 to 3 months ago?

  • @kab6754
    @kab6754 Год назад

    Fate continuity be like "Yeah fam, I give. The crown is yours. I'mma head out"

  • @adventureswithapril
    @adventureswithapril Год назад +1

    Holy Bananas, this goes deep, and I though they were just like me and wanted to play vidya games together :D

  • @TheSanninBagel
    @TheSanninBagel Год назад

    For some reason I was waiting for someone to go super saiyan or be looking for something like the Dragon Balls lol!

  • @LunNightMoonLight
    @LunNightMoonLight Год назад +1

    Corpse is a void demon? I didn’t even know he had lore

  • @horusfalcon
    @horusfalcon Год назад

    The Vshojo Mythos? Ia! Ia! Mousey-ftagn! (Y'all be cray-cray, but I like it.)

  • @osirisjohnson5165
    @osirisjohnson5165 Год назад

    Starting a rebellion just cause your bored sounds like something lobo would do

  • @teobratuteodor1728
    @teobratuteodor1728 Год назад

    Now VShojo the clud of the treaths to of humanity. Daemons, aliens, space horrors, AI, different kind of gods who want to end humanity for fun or because they don't know to repare it, and the worst humans, is almost the all kind of treaths what mankind will have or has face already. And a few many other treaths to humanity, ofcorse.

  • @JoseAlba87
    @JoseAlba87 Год назад +1

    Poor mouse a dynamic duality,
    living life with a split-personality

    • @WheatDos
      @WheatDos Год назад

      I know the feeling....

  • @wigenite
    @wigenite Год назад

    I miss this model!

  • @AngellusRavenix
    @AngellusRavenix Год назад

    So where does the jabberwocky fall into all of this? And when did Silverveil rediscover King Arthur in Atlantis?

  • @RenHeika
    @RenHeika Год назад +1

    Vshojo lore reminds me of Fate or Kingdom Hearts lore.

  • @tronixchl2004
    @tronixchl2004 Год назад

    This shit is mad funny, quick thought Satanael from Persona 5 design, ok grab Gru's Body from despicable me then add Satanael's head/helm or whatever, now put a random word and BAM Persona 5 shitposting

  • @mr.goblin6039
    @mr.goblin6039 Год назад

    Damn, VShojo lore giving DC Comics a run for its money In terms of complicated lore.😂 I dig it, though.

  • @thebiPhrog
    @thebiPhrog 10 месяцев назад

    now we need a new updated timeline cause of the new ppl who have joined

  • @alonelysoul9071
    @alonelysoul9071 Год назад

    "Froot was a Dragonborn"
    FUS RO DAH!

  • @tyreesetjjoyner1995
    @tyreesetjjoyner1995 Год назад

    Good video. Continue on your road on getting the giant gold play button

  • @walterk9916
    @walterk9916 10 месяцев назад

    Kson is the Batman of VShojo

  • @WraithTDK
    @WraithTDK Месяц назад

    The claimed ages of those disney characters are based on their source material. But c'mon, those movies are almost universally SOOOO far from their sources that there's little doubt that their ages are also vastly different. Pocahontas may have been 14 when she met John Smith in real life, but she also probably didn't have a racoon buddy she communicated with or the ability to speak fluent English born of nothing more than listening to her heart; so we can probably look at the animation and ager her up a bit.

  • @canalxpcial5108
    @canalxpcial5108 Год назад

    Well... That kinda explain things... But can't be the original Zentreya a form that was deleted in an alternative universe by anyway?

  • @matthewmiller9485
    @matthewmiller9485 Год назад

    Fate meets Tolkien in terms of timeline complexity and complexity of mythos and characters and their relationships!!!

  • @Raelice
    @Raelice Год назад +3

    Lets goooooooooooo

    • @Ezzydesu
      @Ezzydesu Год назад

      Based lore cat

    • @Vinesus
      @Vinesus Год назад

      You did it bro congrats

  • @yesno5688
    @yesno5688 Год назад

    Vshojo lore= most simple kingdom hearts lore

  • @ivy4104
    @ivy4104 Год назад

    I feel like I maybe should refrain from watching ironmouse content at work xD

  • @soda_cx_project
    @soda_cx_project Год назад

    Such a complicated timeline

  • @thewatchers9394
    @thewatchers9394 Год назад

    Eh I can keep track mostly... but I gave up on uderstanding the fate timelines during lost belts and prototype

  • @Ace-ob9yk
    @Ace-ob9yk Год назад

    "Vshojo timeline is confusing"
    Trash Taste: Oh boy where do we start?

  • @Sirscruggz
    @Sirscruggz Год назад

    Shit is more complicated than the kingdom hearts timeline

  • @reversal5035
    @reversal5035 Год назад

    hopefully more member lore soon

  • @TenkoBerry
    @TenkoBerry Год назад +1

    This this is good. 👍

  • @SavannoBaalphegore
    @SavannoBaalphegore Год назад +1

    ther should be an anime at this moment xD

  • @DeoxysChao
    @DeoxysChao Год назад +1

    When does Connor come into the VShojo timeline?

  • @micahh9351
    @micahh9351 Год назад

    It looks like the sombra conspiracy map and she looks like Sombra and mousey is Hispanic holy crap IRONMOUSE=SOMBRA CONFIRMED

  • @gekke50
    @gekke50 Год назад

    this would make a really good anime 😆

  • @Wurzelknecht
    @Wurzelknecht Год назад

    For animated big booty, look no further than Chel from Road to El Dorado.

  • @girahimeslord6103
    @girahimeslord6103 Год назад

    IS that the bite of 87 ??
    Wait wrong series...

  • @spider-fanstopmotion2176
    @spider-fanstopmotion2176 Год назад

    Azathoth looks and reminds me of the infinity devil from chainsaw man

  • @gregorymontogmery2669
    @gregorymontogmery2669 Год назад

    This universe created by the ancient monster dragon they one make ya'll

  • @Harold_Wilson
    @Harold_Wilson Год назад

    THE FUCKING NYANNERS MILKING STREAM IS A CANONICAL CORNERSTONE OF VSHOJO LORE???
    WHY?????

  • @MRYELLOWLIVE
    @MRYELLOWLIVE Год назад

    wait theres LORE? im about to fall down a very deep hole

  • @MysticMylesZ
    @MysticMylesZ Год назад

    There's... alot of lore

  • @corro202
    @corro202 Год назад

    Awesome video.

  • @thelonewolfgamer8357
    @thelonewolfgamer8357 Год назад

    My hed hurt... 😶

  • @Ray-st7hz
    @Ray-st7hz Год назад

    How much honkai has this boi played xd

  • @alancalvillo6756
    @alancalvillo6756 Год назад

    VShojo was great

  • @Rainb0y2k
    @Rainb0y2k Год назад

    im just a little sad that kson will die very very soon in comparison to all the demon/ heaven/ robot / dragon/ and all other higher beings, unless smth happens with her ...

  • @wickideazy
    @wickideazy Год назад +2

    bish, I watch Doctor Who and read comic books. TImeline hijinks are old hat.

  • @louisduty3962
    @louisduty3962 Год назад +2

    I know why it’s so complicated, it’s because they only make the lore to justify the unnecessary amounts of model changes as well as to flaunt the money they get from mindless simps.

    • @lordzaboem
      @lordzaboem Год назад

      Nah, they make complicated lore because it's fun for them to make up complicated lore. Indie vtubers with zero budget do the same thing. Off the top of my head, look at ColdxNorth, Vesmera, or Nullus.

  • @johnmartinez-valentin5427
    @johnmartinez-valentin5427 Год назад

    Bruh the proud family was the boom

  • @tacticalgrace6456
    @tacticalgrace6456 Год назад

    So does the VShojo timelines fit in a VTuber multiverse of mythos? Does Hololive and Nishisanji, independents etc lore exist in the same universe or are they all in alternate timelines, dimensions etc?