Hey Rummbolt! I want to Thank you for the insane amount of work put into this video, this is something the airsoft community needs. Keep up the great work! Subscribed and tuned for more!
Hey 4UAD-Team, great to read your comment! Amazing you like my content, your channel is a huge inspiration for me (and meanwhile, i installed several of your buckings to my replicas :P) Have a great start to 2025, greetings to Taiwan!
Thanks man, and really do appreciate the work behind it, if there is anything you need in the future contact us, we will do our best to support you! Best wishes for 2025 Happy new year
@@rraji866 Wow, I can't imagine a more complimenting statement - thanks a lot! Although the guys from 4uantum are on a completely other level of course, but I'm very happy you like my work as well. Have a good one!
You deserve more subs. This level of information and attention to detail and cinematography is better than 90% of people in the airsoft YT realm. Great job and keep on going.
Thank you very much my friend, I give my best to deliver Airsoft content that players and techs enjoy to watch - however it's quite time consuming, yes :P Have a good start to 2025!
Dude you are a legend. This video is very informative and i’ll keep this in my mind and check it anytime when i decide to buy a bucking. Thank you ! Greetings from Turkiye
@@rummboltby the way, for your information, i get best results with maxx hopup, 4.5mm concave nub and 4uad bucking. It’s just a laser gun for around 50-60 meters 😊
Thank you - indeed this particular one took me about 3 months from the first concept over ordering all the buckings, recording, analyzing the results and editing the video. So I really thank you for honoring this effort - keeps me motivated :) Have a good one!
I hope this video is going to make your chanel grow as it deserves, always great content, great attitude and honesty. You deserve a statue for all the work and time you put on this one!!! I moved from the old guarder silicon to maple leaf macarons, then i found begadi and felt in love with all their products (not only the rubbers are awesome), maybe its time to go "orange" now XD.
Great video! Thank you for putting the effort in to make this, there is so much ambiguity with the real performance of different hop-up buckings, so it is great to finally get an objective comparison. In future, it would be awesome if you could do something similar for GBB/VSR style buckings too!
Thanks mate :) Glad you like the content! A GBB/VSR Test for sure is a hot candidate for a future video in 2025, just need to figure out in which replica it would be best to compare. Stay tuned - and have a good start to the new year!
Hi Rummbolt, awesome work comparing so many buckings and controlling for as many variables as possible. Thank you for this! We would have loved to see how our Gen3 Tru-Hop bucking compares to the others. Perhaps we can send you a replacement for a final comparison against your favorite buckings?
Thank you very much, dear TruSight Team! When it's time for a second episode of this video, comparing further AEG Buckings, I will let you know - at the moment, it's just too cold and windy here in Germany. So long, the viewers can check out my video which I made specifically for the GEN3 Bucking :) Have a good one!
Rummbolt, great job on this testing! Super useful work that the community can benefit from. For your next test of this nature, I recommend you add also a chrono reading of a few shots after the hop up adjustment for the 20m and the 50m testing, as well as the hop setting number on the Neptun (and add that data to the summary table). I suspect it might provide some insight into the non intuitive result of some buckings performing great on 20m and poorly on 50m, and vice versa. Anyway, keep up the good work. Subscribed!
Thank you for your comment and the sub - both very appreciated! For upcoming videos of this kind, I will add a chrono test for every bucking at least in form of one added photo or so - I agree it would deliver valuable information :) Have a good start to 2025!
Thank you very much both for commenting and subscribing! Happy you like my content - more tests and project build reports are going to come, so stay tuned in 2025 :) Have a good one!
Ich muss echt sagen das ist das beste Video zu dem Thema das ich bis jetzt gesehen hab👍🏻. Hab aber n paar sachen vermisst. zum Beispiel währe es cool gewesen wenn du die ganzen Buckings vor den Präzisions Tests nochmal mim Crono gemessen hättest, konstante Leistung ist ja auch ein Faktor bei den Dingern. Und du hast ja soweit ich weiß auch ein Rhop setup und ein stock TM setup(die mit dem scheiss Gummi Rohr als Tensioner) rumliegen, da hättest du die zum Vergleich eig auch grad mit ins Video rein nehmen können. Falls da ein Teil 2 für kommt empfehle ich auch dir mal die Silent Industries Alpha huu anzugucken, ist echt ein super Teil👌🏻 ich guck die Neptun nichtmal mehr mim Arsch an seit dem ich die hab. Die kommt auch bestimmt gut fürs Video weil die nochmal 1-2 variablen aus dem Ergebnis raus nimmt und dafür ausgelegt ist mit Original Tensionern von den jeweiligen Herstellern benutzt zu werden ohne die TDC Funktion zu verlieren
Danke dir, das ehrt mich :) Freut mich dass dir der Content gefällt! Das mit dem Chrono habe ich auch überlegt, hätte aber das Video noch mehr gestreckt. Als zusätzliche Einblendung vllt, und dann nur was dazu sagen wenn auffällig viel oder wenig Energie da ist. Über die Neptun hoffe ich aber alles recht dicht gekriegt zu haben immerhin. Das alte R-Hop Setup habe ich damals für das Trusight Gen3 "geopfert", das gibts so nicht mehr. Ein stock TM Setup habe ich glaub ich noch nie gespielt, jedenfalls nicht seit ich RUclips mache. Oder ich habs vergessen :D Die Buckings im Vid waren so ziemlich alle AEG Buckings die ich grad habe :P Von der Silent Industries Alpha Unit habe ich auch schon gehört, wird Zeit dass ich mir die auch mal genauer anschaue -danke für den Tipp und einen guten Rutsch ins neue Jahr!
Sehr informatives Video! So einenn umfangreichen Vergleich wünscht sich jeder Airsoftspieler. Gute Arbeit. Ich persönlich bin sehr mit dem Friction Pro zufrieden :-)
Schönen Dank für das Lob, freut mich sehr! Auch wenn es natürlich erstmal nur die Performance in meinem Build widerspiegelt - die Tendenzen die sich daraus ableiten lassen, in Kombination mit den verschiedenen Kommentaren die bisher eingegangen sind, zeichnen doch ein recht klares Bild finde ich :) Frohes Neues und liebe Grüße!
Another great video man! You cleared a few questions I had about different hop rubbers. Also, I thoght that Maple Leaf rubbers will give better results. For the next video I would suggest that you finish this test with the Unicorn rubber and the one, that you damaged. Also I would add some standard hop rubbers (G&G green, Guarder rubber....).
Greetings, nice to see another comment of yours on this video :) Glad you like the content! Yeah, I also thought about just doing the same but with a set of 8,9...X more buckings, there are much more candidates that have not been covered yet....Let's see what the future brings! All the best for you, have a good start to 2025!
Mega Interessant, bin sehr froh dass des 4uantum so gut abgeschnitten hat, das empfehl Ich praktisch jedem der mich fragt seit gut paar Monaten :P Danke für den Test!
Danke dir :) Denke auch, das 4uad kann sich sehen lassen - bisher noch keine Enttäuschung mit dem AEG Bucking erlebt. Bald kommt es auch in meine MTW - Projektvideo folgt! Guten Start ins neue Jahr dir!
@rummbolt Spannend! In meiner MTW laeuft das Bucking super, Ich wuerds wahrscheinlich in meiner frisch bestellten SRS mal probieren die nutzt ja auch AEG Buckings.
Wow very informative test! Just one suggestion I would have is to multiply the width and height of the groupings so it gives an area value of the spread, which is what is sought after compared to just summing them up.
Thank you, sir! You are probably right, values in cm² are more "popular" than added cm+cm. But when I thought about it before testing, the grade of information about the groupings quality i found to be quite "similar", besides one measures the actual area, and the other one just the added distance. The absolute difference between all buckings values would be higher on cm² than on cm... But hey, I'm getting almost philosphical here -> I will re-consider my choice for the next video of this kind :) Have a good start to 2025!
Danke für die tolle Arbeit die du dir da gemacht hast ! Dein Kanal ist klasse ich hoffe du bekommst noch viel mehr Abonnenten die deine Arbeit schätzen.
Hey David, vielen Dank, die netten Worte weiß ich sehr zu schätzen :) Freut mich dass dir mein Content gefällt, für das neue Jahr ist auch schon wieder viel geplant. Wünsche dir einen guten Rutsch und freue mich, wenn du mal wieder vorbei schaust ^.^
Worth noting that the MRhop is listed to work better with their barrels, the front section of the patch is longer than most. I had to file the window much larger on my stock vsr10
Hi there, great video I must say, the 50m test can be hard thanks to the outside conditions, but very valuable test nonetheless. especially the 20m test really shows which bucking and the style is more consistent. I must say I want to try the begadi buckings now, which are hard to obtain in my country. MRHop is really a tricky one, I think silicone ones apply more hop by its rubber counterparts, maybe you would want to try blue or pink ones to offset that. I don't think barrel window length was a problem in this test, since you used the begadi's longer bucking without any issue. I would check that regardless.
You're right, it can be really tough to find testing conditions for a valdid comparison - I tried my best, but there will always be room for improvements :) Next time for example, I hope to be able filming in a different location, even more wind-protected. Have a good start to the new week, thanks for your comment!
Very good comparison test. Also your idea, of letting your shooting plattform be the same for all tests is very important. As you already said, your tensioner choice affects a lot of variables, including what kind of patch surface is being used. What i am trying to say is: If you would have used a flat tensioner, the MR-Style Hop Buckings would have been even better, than they where already. 😜 They are just allways the way to go. Especially for outdoor play where .32g is the lighter end of BB weights. The idea is to have a big patch surface, so it can empart better spin on the BB while not loosing too much speed process. Problem is, you need a very even tensioner surface, every irregularity will make your BB hook left or right. The curved tensioner is one thing, but the way it sits in the HU is also important. To move, it needs clearence, clearence means that it can apply the hop, ever so slighty different. Again, what i am trying to say is: Your rifle is already shooting very well, but it coul be ever so sligthly better. 🤣
Hi and thanks a lot for commenting :) I get all your points and agree 100%, the thing is when you prepare such a video, you have to choose for the best compromise setup (or what you think it could be, haha. You also learn a lot while doing so). A different tensioner + heavier BBs would for sure something to check out for the next video. Thanks for sharing your experience with us! Have a good start to 2025, all the best!
@@rummbolt You have already alot, if not most. It was a joy to watch and very interessting to see the results. To be honest, i think you allready did most to cover all bases. I wouldn't even know how to follow up such a video. Other than maybe to look how such a tests fairs for GBB/Springer/HPA Systems, then again, that would be alot of work. Regardless, this here, is a very good video to give someone a quick jet detailed overview. Well done.
@@mucke7907 Thanks again ^.^ Yes, GBB/VSR is for sure worth too take a closer look. Also in terms of AEG, making the Unicorn work, + Trusight Gen3 + G&G Green + Prommy Purple + ML MR-Hop Non-Silicone + the newer TNT Bucking, not the H.L.R. one + maybe Begadi 5s ... etc, there are so many ideas, I need to have the day 48 hours :D Have a good one!
Super Test! Finds gut das sich auch andere so damit befassen außer mir 😊! Aber was ich krass finde ist der Misslungene Test mit dem Unicorn! Ich hab den jetzt schon oft verbaut und find den super 👍. Den Slong Bucking der bei den Slong Läufen dabei ist finde ich auch stark! Den 4uantum hab ich mir irgendwie schlecht geredet für AEG. Aber in den GBBs finde ich den super gut. Begadi machst bei Fly 5 und 7 nichts falsch. Aber ich finde den Test wirklich geil.
Hey Flori, danke dir :) Das mit dem Unicorn lag zu 99% am Tensioner, der hat die Patchfläche einfach nicht genug runter gedrückt. Mit nem anderen Tensioner sieht das bestimmt deutlich besser aus - interessant dass du davon so begeistert bist auf jeden Fall, ich nehme es mir 2025 noch einmal vor :P Das alte Slong Bucking fand ich auch immer grundsolide, hatte ich aber leider nicht mehr da, sonst wäre es auch in den Test gekommen. Und bei 4uad scheinen sich die Geister zu scheiden - einige feiern es ziemlich, bei anderen funktioniert es überhaupt nicht. Ich für meinen Teil finde es ziemlich gut (außer in meiner Sniper, das GBB-Bucking von denen will bei mir wiederum überhaupt nicht funktionieren). Aber so ist das eben, diese Tests sind einfach nicht wirklich allgemeingültig - das Gesamt-Puzzle aus Bauteilen muss einfach passen. Guten Start ins neue Jahr und viele Grüße!
@ wenn du willst. Ich hab mir 3 Slong super Precision Läufe gekauft. Das sind die ohne Loch aber mit 3 Kerben um mit O-Ringe den innen und aussenlauf zu fixieren! Sehr guter Lauf für kleines Geld bei POWAIR6! Also hab ich Gummis über! Ja die UNICORN nutz ich immer mit den Omega Tensioner! Sehr gute Ergebnisse wie gesagt. Gibt noch so einige andere gute. Aber du hast eh viele zusammen geworfen die viele noch nicht auf dem Schirm hatte. Der TNT T-Hop ist auch genial gut! Aber ist von so viel abhängig immer!
Aktuell muss ich erstmal sehen wo ich die ganzen übrig gebliebenen Buckings verbaue, aber vielen Dank für das Angebot - wenn ich welche brauche, komm ich gern drauf zurück :) Schönen Abend dir!
Thaaank you very much :) I already installed the X-Range in the SSG-10 of my Teammate Danzig, and I think it's very good! For a future vid on the GBB buckings, it definitely will be part of the test! Have a good start to 2025!
Thank you my friend! I thought about a GBBR / VSR Version, yes. But am not sure which replica to pick, as I would like to avoid movement due to the blow back effect and manual reloading. So an easy to disassembly NBB rifle would be perfect. You have an idea? Have a good one!
@@lovehellokitty16 Even though i did not use your idea of making several videos out of this one, still thanks for helping with bringing up the concept ❤️
nice work, i got 4uantum Friction Pro in mine one project and its pretty good ..when I had the ML rubber in the chamber, it had a higher performance, but it was not consistent and neither as accurate nor as far as I expected, after the replacement for 4uantum Friction Pro, got lower performance but more stable and overall better shooting and range.. project still continue both bucking tested on ML barell in Aspro chamber .. next on test its silent industries hop chamber
Wirklich sehr gutes Video! Danke für deine Mühe beim Vergleich. Hilft wirklich sich zu entscheiden was man einbaut. Bisher habe ich das X-Range, MR Hop und Flamingo genutzt. Leider hast du das XRange und Flamingo nicht im Test gehabt. Ein Test auf Long Range (70m) mit Sniper und GBB/VSR Bucking wäre, für mich, super interessant.
Hi JackLee, danke für deinen Kommentar :) Freut mich dass dir das Video gefällt! X-Range und Flamingo sind soweit ich weiß reine GBB/VSR-Buckings, oder? In diesem Test hätten sie also nicht in die Replica gepasst - aber für einen kommenden Test im GBB/VSR Bereich wären die beiden Kandidaten auf jeden Fall am Start! Guten Rutsch ins neue Jahr wünsche ich!
Please get another trusight and make the unicorn work with a lower tensioner. I would love to see the different styles tested alongside our 3 main groups. Since theyre the most experimental they should give the most interesting results
Hello and thanks for your comment :) For the Trusight, I already made a video you can find on my channel, where at least the longer distance is covered. The Unicorn one, I probably will test in one of my project builds in 2025 and then will shoot like the other ones in this test. Have a good start to the new year!
@rummbolt Thanks. I'm interested in the unicorn, it's a wastly different design to every other bucking. It seems to me it'll either make it so BBs will curve all over the place. Or give a nice good hop. I would personally also like to see you test G&G green and Prommy purple with an Rhop patch (if you have a prommy barrel, maybe try the Silent İndustries patches.) as an addition.
@@vulpix9210 Yes, a lot of interesting ideas to find out whats behind them - I will come back to the comment section when planing the next test videos :) Thank you!
@@rummbolt I just received my Kythera, silent industries alpha, and wraithX stock. I also have an Rhop patch from silent. And I also have some 4uad buckings. I will try both configs with my 407mm prommy barrel. Trying to build a counter sniper DMR that's effective to where all bolt actions are effective to.
Thank you very much! Maybe i could think about a GBB bucking comparison in my VSR-style sniper replica, but i would need a longer shooting range then. When it's time, you will see on my channel for sure! Have a good start to the new year!
Hello again! I noticed youre reviewing my LC bucking! I must say, there must be an issue with your gun setup. At 20M i get a MAX 15cm grouping... And thats out of a DSG, not a DMR build. It is sensitive to what nozzle is used, and some nozzle will actively make the fun shoot very innacurate I personally use the Maxx M4E with the Square Mnub (orange squishy thing). It does not work well with metal concave nubs. I will try to get a shooting video as soon as possible, but its freezing outside. Also for future reference, its 65A durometer ;)
I forgot to mention, but we just finished the design of our own nozzle designed specifically for this bucking. If you would like, we can send you one for testing. I can promise that 28cm will drop yo below 15cm easily with the Maxx m4E, our nozzle and the LC bucking
Hey hey, nice to hear from you again :) The nozzle I used was from Epes i think, did you test with those before? Also considering tensioners, the aluminium Begadi one was just my attempt to find a compromise thats "fair" for most of the buckings, but I'm aware with your specific tensioner (and nozzle) it most likely will perform better. Still, I'm very impressed of the 50m performance of your bucking - it shot amazing, especially in this distance and was a strong competitor to the Begadi and 4uantum buckings! Coming back to your offer - thank you very much! My agenda for the next months already is pretty full, maybe we can talk again in some months (also when it's warmer, here in Europe haha). By the way - your shipment from Canada was super-fast! The buckings I ordered arrived in Germany in not even a week - amazing! Wish you a great start to the new year 2025 :)
I have had mixed results with the 4uantum friction pros due to loosening inside my hopup causing loose shots after only 150 rounds. I tried readjusting and the same results. Ive gone back to my Maple Leaf Monster because it fits tighter so it doesnt move around as much.
This is interesting. Did the bucking rotate, so you got curved shots? or did it move forward and backwards, causing leaks in airseal? = what what the issue you experienced on the BB?
Despite I really like the comparison, I would like to add another point so we can take it into account. First, if the manufacturer/brand says something about making some "pre shooting" with the bucking (300~ shots) to start having a consistent effect. Second, how durable is the bucking of choice. Note: Consider adding the transparent guarder one, really good results, cheap and good lasting.
Hello and thanks for your comment :) I'm aware of this "break-in" period some manufacturers recommend - and wanted to take it into account at least a little by shooting an entire magazine down range. From my personal experience however, the performance of a bucking does not change significantly over time after the first installation, but I have no valid data on this. Many buckings still performed very good in this test video I think, even while not having been shot-in for a longer time. Also thank you for mentioning the transparent guarder bucking, I added it to the list for a potential part 2 of this video. Have a good one!
Hey, nice to read of one more manufacturer here in the comments :) The packaging? I'm not sure what you're referring to, for me it looks allright the way I displayed it. Or you mean the bucking? I'm actually quite confused, did I use your bucking wrong? (Besides the tensioner, but this is because of the test setup, I'm aware your bucking will work better with a different nub) Have a good one!
I think he mean the bucking upside down. Besides of that I am a Long term unicorn product user, it’s work really well in my GBB and my friends AEG. I can shot over 80M in my GBB MWS when using unicorn hop up bucking and inner barrel. I am thinking is that your hop up chamber setting problems?
Well i'm going to have to try on of the Friction Pros. Maple Leaf Macaron was always my go to (with the triangular patch). You should also try the Begadi Fly rubbers. I've had a good experience with those too.
Hi and thanks for your comment :) The fly7 in the Test performed very good indeed :) But also with the fly5, i made some very good experience before. Have a good start to 2025!
very hepfull test for a lot of airsofters👍 for my AEG im using the quantum friction pro and it shoots lazers (with stock plastic hopup chamber and 6.01 RAVEN PDI 395mm barrel) i also tried their GBB bucking on the hpa ssp5 and works really well but the stock bucking works perfectly too.
Very appreciated, thank you sir! From what i read so far, many people are making good experience with the 4uad bucking, however there are some who seem to have their problems with it. Sometimes, it's just a mystery to me. Have a good start to the new year!
I have the GBB bucking in my Shadow 2. It shoots up to 50-60 meters laser accurate. It's kind of crazy that I sometimes pull the pistol out for quick shots around cover due to 0 trigger delay. Well, I'll have my Kythera built now I just got the parts. But still.
Hello there, you mistook our hardness of hop up rubber on label, the said 65° was old stock before 2018, no wonder it failed you. BTW, this W-HOP UP design we built has long been renovated since 2018 and labeled as 60°. Kindly updated.
Hello and thanks for your comment, great to read the statement of one more manufacturer :) Interesting there are still products of those old badges around, as I bought it new (!) in ~Ocotber 2024 from a well-known Airsoft Shop in Germany. Probably, they did not sell all the old parts, so it is still available. In a future test, I would look out for the newest version of your buckings :) Have a good start to 2025!
I thought about adding those, because of their huge popularity and the "classic" prestige - just decided against them because a) already too many buckings and b) the oldscool patch surface. Should have droped the Aimtop and the defective TruSight in favor for them. Too late now - maybe for a next video :) Have a good start to the new year, thanks for your comment!
Fyi many people that use prommy purples or G&G greens (me included when I'm using them) shave the inside and use them as either A. A flat hop directly. Or B. Rhop. What I would like to see is a proper Rhop added to the test using either G&G green or prommy purple as base.
Yes, I know they write it on their product pages. By shooting an entire mag down the range, I at least tried to break it in a little, but to be honest I never noticed a serious effect of breaking a bucking in - not in the preperations for this video, and not in earlier project builds. Besides, the Begadi buckings performed quite well, so they did not really need a break-in period if you ask me. But: This actually would be worth one more video to find out. So many ideeeaas :D Have a good one!
Very nice Video, I guess I have to try the Quantum and Begadi rubbers. Although im getting some Tru-Hops in a Sparepartspackage I bought so I might need to Test those too(and watch you Vid. about them.)
Thank you my friend :) I think, you will make a great choice with all the four buckings you named here - my personal ranking would be #1 4uantum #2 MAG7 #3 FLY7 #4 Truhop Gen3 - but it's very close all in all. Have a good start to the new year!
@@rummbolt Yeah watched the Vid about the True Hop, which seems to be more of a 0,5 Joule Hop maybe. Same to you. PS. I love your Apartment/Housing location, very stylish(and also usefull for vids IG) :D
@rummbolt I would love to see it. Doesn't have to be gbbr though could be anything vsr-10 spec. I just said gbbr's because power wise it should be the closest to the aeg you tested. 😁
I have had fantastic results with the max aluminum extended 7mm rhop nub on an rhop barrel using a flat hoped g&g green bucking. I know everyone has different results but I've never had a standard bucking outpreform my 7mm rhoped barrel... Preformes even better with my tuned Fusion Engine
Hello and thanks for your comment! Yeah, I basically learned in the comment section of this video that G&G green seems veery popular as a flat / straight hop bucking (+ eventually R-Hop) .. something I'd like to test in the future as well, if I find the time. Have a good start to the new year :)
Hi, absolutely love the video!!! Finally someone did this sort of test... I think i can add a bit of info, as the uni hop had my curiosity for quite a while and i have made extensive testing on it. I have tried it in many setups, mainly a g&g gc16, a WE g36c, a WE g18c and in an Ares AS-01. I think it might be the most accurate bucking i have ever tried, however, i can't get it to shoot far, making it almost useless if not for pistols or smgs... I don't really know why, as the patch is not that short, it might be the material they use. The only setup that gets me good range is the g36c, but I can't understand why (maybe the bigger air volume as it is gbb[???]), and i am still not sure it gets that good of a range as an r hop type bucking. If you find out how to get it to shoot far i beg you to make a video about it, i think it has potential to be a great bucking
Hey hey, and thanks for your informative comment :) My assumption why the unicorn failed in the test was because the tensionor did not reach"deep" enough to hop my 0.32g BBs. A "higher" tensioner SHOULD help here, but I did not test it yet. I'm also curious how it will perform, especially after I read a lot good experience about it in the latest comments! Have a good start to 2025, all the best to you!
Can you add a legacy hop up setup in a next video ? Modify flathop Prometheus purple flat hopped with a namazu firefly (red) G&g green flat hopped with a namazu firefly (red)
Hello and thanks for your comment :) I think, self-made mods are not going to be included in future HU-Bucking comparisons, as the perfomrance depends a lot on how you accurate your work is. But I note your suggestions as well, for a complete list of possible combinations. Have a good one!
Oh damn, but thats so often in case in airsoft - i know exactely how you feel :P Fortunately, it's "only" a hop up bucking, so you could order another one and keep the MR Hop as a spare for example. Or test it, and maybe it will work fine for you :) Have a good start to the new year, and thanks for your comment!
now we need to do this again for different builds and play style ;) ,because from experince DSG builds are extreamily picky with bucking, i love the friction pro but renctly put it in my freind dsg build and the performance was aweful but put in maple leaf mr hop and boom worked like a charm
Oh yeah, there are so much different build- and use-case-options you could do, just for seeing the effect of the different buckings... they are basically endless :D But enough inspiration for future videos for sure :P Thanks for commenting, have a good start to the new year!
@ thank you, and may you have a great 2025 also 👌 Thanks for your uploads, it’s very unique and really covers such important things that no one really covers on RUclips. Especially not as well explained and detailed as yours
I used 4uantum Friction Pro on my VSR10 build, and got very good consistency groupings. I was using Tridos TDC on stock vsr10 hop, but when I change my hopup unit to AA red with Tridos TDC, 4uantum bucking gave me inconsistent hops. I changed the bucking to ML autobot 60D, and the consistency came back. So I think, 4uantum bucking might not be compatible with AA red hopup unit on Vsr10. Still impress with 4uantum's bucking though.
Interesting, thanks for reporting your results! I tested the 4uantum VSR Bucking once before in my build and saw decreasing energy on a modified Well MB03 unit. Probably, this will vary from setup to setup. In a potential GBB Version of this video, the 4uantum for sure will be included :) Have a good one!
TBH, compatibility has been a controversial issue, that's why hop up manufacturers attached their own tensioners or nubs in packages. Is concave style suitable for all kinds of contact inside? It's a rhetorical question, let alone the set you used were all aligned to a specific brand from chamber/nub/rubber, better to go first with stock settings in their package and make comparison then.
It's true, actually you need to build your replica "around" the bucking and optimize every part for a perfect match (if that's even possible at all, haha). Which makes a valid test / comparison like this more or less obsolete. But experience (mine and of many users here in the comments) shows, that the tendency of how well buckings perfom already can give a good hint which bucking to pick :) Thanks for commenting, have a good start to 2025!
Hi. Very good video. I think you should use begadi 5 series. Unlike the 7 Series, the pressure points on the 7 Series rub against the window as the window opens. This requires some small space so that the pressure points do not touch the window. ----I am an avid modder. I'm after laser-like shots. So this led me to modify a VSR-10 and I would use 8 different brands of Buking (three hardnesses for each brand). Even my AEG does.
This is a set of very valuable information, thank you! Will consider all this for my future projects - also made very good experience with Begadi 5s as well :) Have a good start to 2025!
Yeah, the sheer amount of comments mentioning the Unicorn also makes me curious to test it soon on a different tensioner :P When I find time to test it in video, you will see it here for sure! Have a good start to 2025, thanks for commenting!
Moin. Gutes Video. Vielleicht hätte man noch kurz chronowerte einblenden können, ob sich an der Energie gravierend was geändert hat. Ich habe jetzt zwei mal das Predator Bucking und performt einfach mega. In einer AK mit Nebo und SVU.
Danke für dein Feedback! Für ein Folgevideo werde ich das mal in Betracht ziehen mit dem Chrono. Auch schön zu hören dass das Predator offenbar bei dir besser läuft als bei mir :P Guten Rutsch ins neue Jahr, LG!
Great video! Very well done, although my results with the quantum 4 bucking have not been good so far. My LCT RPK with a Lonex hop unit had feeding issues with the Maple Leaf super and the quantum 4 fixed that but does not have good range and also dropped the joules from 1.5 to 1.2 for some odd reason. Still experimenting with some different set ups, but I will say the super macaron in my PKM with the Bull gear hop unit can hit people 300ft + no problem, it’s ridiculous!
Thanks mate :) Its funny how completely different the buckings perform from replica A to replica B. This is what makes testing and comparing so difficult. If you saw this video for example, and would have bought the 4uad - you probably would have been very disappointed because it's not like you saw on screen. This is why I tried to make it as clear as possible that the test only can give a "tendency" of a comparison. However, I'm glad the Super Macaron works so well for you! Have a good start to the new year 2025!
I have done similar tests to this in my 15+ years in Airsoft and as tech in enf i found the g&g green is the best all around if paired with an h nub spacer . I mainly use these h nub spacer and pps steel barels and results are awesome! And where i live Airsoft outside is at norm 1.7 j or higher and cqb outdoor and indor 1.2 j so for everything within 1- 2 j i found it works really nice with said setup in most hopups unless you have super cnc over tight tolerance hops yea then it will not work but then most else neither. Sadly these days people dont try they dont test usually somebody else who build so whats good its sadly one sided alot. Thats why people get so offensive in bucking questions like it was politics lol. I found that only by doing actual documented tests light and extreme range and all in between you can for sure say if something its truly good Most people dont tech and somebody else build for them and this is why so much bad information comes out from people who dont know. Thats why videos like this is good.
Hey hey and thanks for your comment. I think is, one possible reason for the "behaviour" you describe is that those tests are veery time consuming and you need the possible for a shooting range, not everyone has. BUT: Acting like they know anything better, while not even having tested in their own personal setup for sure is a problem. As long as I can, I will try to deliver more of those tests on my channel to at least give you better impressions of certain products - however, they can and will perform differently in Build A, B, C... Have a good start to 2025!
Makes sense, as the h-nubs make pressure on sides of the seam, making it completely flat for the bbs… have you tried madbull redshark or even 4uad as it is almost the same principle as the seam with an h-nub?
@@danielarturodebernardogome832 cost more less co operative with most barrels and hops etc. i mostly use G&G green becus it works with most hops and h nubs. it also less expesive wich is an huge thing becus not everyone have huge budget. i have worked with basically all brands so i know what goes in what. problem airsoft is airsoft and tolerances is not like real wepons and nothing is truly universal in aisoft even if its same gun diferent brands. done this for 15+ years by now so i know how stuff works And G&G green with h nub works for most not everything but many and its actually good for the price and what it is
So for my 2 AEG what would you recomend? I got an DMR with Crazy Jet Barrel 6.03 455 mm. 2.2 J with 0.36 what bucking would you go with? And my other one is an MP5 also with crazy Jet barrel and 1.3 J with 0.28. I dont know if i should change the barrel 😃 my mp5 is the Cyma Platium upgraded version. DMR is full custom
I think i would go with the Begadi Fly7 70° for the DMR and the 4uad Bucking for the MP5. But thats only my personal opinion :) Hope it will work out nicely for you, have a good one!
Give the tnt TR hop a go, it should be significantly better than the silicon one, the silicon buckings besides g&g green are always garbage. Would love to see the comparison. Also I think testing .36 would be a better option for outdoors. However at very low joules it may be difficult to lift reliably. R hop doesnt have much advantage unless ur shooting heavy, usually 0.4+ is where u see the significant difference. Without the bucking being depressed enough, the 2 sides arent lowered enough to make contact with the bb and thus is less stable. It is not surprising to see flat hop being more accurate however, r hop's greatest advantage is its ability to lift virtually anything at the maximum distance. However its very unstable below .36 and im surprised u got such good results with them, especially with the ml MR hop which is a hit or miss often. I think u need another test for HPA, because hpa is a totally different beast when it comes to bucking choices due to the immense air volume. Stuff that works well on aegs doesnt always work on hpa and vise versa. Personally cant make the 4uad bucking work. Never really understood the single contact point idea. It does do .25s really well however, so maybe its just heavy weights that it struggles with.
I often read, R-Hop Style buckings work best with heavier BBs, and I'm willing to believe this. On the other hand, i think the test shows the used 0.32gs work quite good as well. Considering HPA-Buckings: I personally don't see why AEG buckings should perform differently in a HPA-driven system, as long as both AEG and HPA are aligned well. But I'm open to get prooved wrong of course :) Interesting the 4uantum bucking does not work for you. But it's like always in airsoft, one has to find the ideal products for the own individual builds. Videos like mine can only image personal experience and maybe a tendency of how products COULD work. Thanks for commenting, have a good one!
I agree with 4uantum. They struggle lifting heavy bbs. I mean, they can lift heavy bbs but lose too much power. I had better resulta with Mr. Hop and Mag7 from begadi.
How can a bucking Rhop style be inaccurate at 20meters and accurate at 50 meters?? That usually shouldn’t be possible right? The further you shoot, the more the bb’s will be off target. (One slightly to the left at 20meter, should be off way more at 50mtr?)
That's what I did not really understand as well - and what I wanted to test (see the little drawing with the 20 and 50 meter targets). Obviously, 20m accuracy does not say too much about the final precision at 50m - or I had just bad luck at the groupings? But having the "worst" groupings all together in the R-Hop group seems to be a little to many for "just" coincidence... I don't know, open to more speculations :P Have a good one!
I have an idea as to why it could behave like this. When you look at the shots at 50m, you can sometimes see a shot that wirls sideways off target just to come back again and hit. my assumption would be that the axis of the spin on the bb isn't straight in the middle (---), but more like (/). so when you see the 20m test, the bb has started its off acis trajectory, but not come back in again before it gets closer to 50m. Id love to see the same type of tests that Rummbolt did, but with heavier bbs, 0.40+, and possibly shorter barrels 150-300mm. if i dont take on that task myself at some point👏
Cool video. I was under the impression that r hop buckings were smooth on the inside to accommodate an rhop patch installed over the barrel window. I wonder how integrated rhop buckings compare to a traditional straight bucking with rhop patch installed? Airsoft confuses me.
Thank you very much :) From my personal experience, the traditional R-Hop Patch + straight bucking on the one hand and the newer drop-in R-Hop Buckings on the other hand don't bring a huge difference in terms of performance / range / accuracy. But the drop-ins are way more easy to install! Have a good one :)
@@rummboltthank you! Sorry if I missed it in the video, but what do you use for your own replica? I’m personally shooting 0.32g with the Neptune HopUp and 1.65J and was considering the 4UANTUM friction pro. Have you the friction pro with the included nub? 😊
It was because i wanted to test "modern" buckings, but G&G Green is also very popular and deserves a testing actually. It would have been a great replacement for the outdated Aimtop, it even has a similar color :D But those are the things you learn after the video has gone online...thanks for commenting, have a good one!
Jau da hat Begadi echt was tolles entwickelt muss ich auch sagen - es ist in meiner G36 GBB auch drin - gefällt mir ebenfalls! Guten Start ins neue Jahr, und danke für deinen Kommentar!
I tested the old MrHop only once some years ago, but my memory says it was indeed better than the silicone one in this Video. Maybe one day, i will make a Volume two of this comparison where the original MR. Hop is included. Thanks for your comment, have a good start to the new year!
Maybe i missed it, but what weight did you use for the RHop buckings? Because RHop only benefits heavier weights (+.36) because of the increased surface area which the BB passes through. If you were using .32 or below thats why you seeing weird results from 20m. The larger gripping surface really skews lighter BBs.
Yeah this could explain the 20m performance of the R-Hop drop-ins. I used 0.32g on all buckings, because I had to find some kind of a compromise weight. On heavier ones, some more buckings could have had problems to hop the properly - you see, BB weight actually is a variable you choose for every bucking, which you just can not cover completely in a test of this volume (12 buckings), if you want to keep it under 1 hour :D :D Thanks for sharing your experience, have a good start to the new year!
Mich würde auch deine Erfahrungen mit den 4uad bucking interessieren bei 0,45g bbs. Ob diese gut gehopt werden und immer noch so gut Performen wie mit den 0,32g bbs im Video
Dafür müsste ich das mal in einer Airsoft mit +2J installieren, darunter machen so schwere BBs in meinen Augen wenig Sinn. Bald folgt ein Video zu meinem MTW Project Build, darin teste ich auf jeden Fall mit 0.4g, vllt auch schwerer :) LG!
Moinsen, macht der einfach mal wieder 7500 Aufrufe mit einem normalen Video. ;-) Da sieht man wieder das Englisch deutlich mehr bringt als nur Deutsch. Sehr schönes aufwendiges Video. Das hat garantiert ewig gedauert bis alles fertig und im Kasten war. Mach weiter so und frohes neues Jahr wünschen wir dir.
Grüß euch :) Ja, würd mich auch interessieren wie viele Klicks das Video in deutscher Sprache bekommen hätte und wie groß der Effekt durch die größere Zielgruppe tatsächlich ist. Freue mich auf jeden Fall, dass es bisher so gut ankommt! Aber ja, das war bisher das aufwändigste Projekt hier auf dem Kanal - von der Konzeption über die Bestellung der Buckings, das Aufnehmen und Analysieren der Ergebnisse bis hin zum Cutten und Bearbeiten waren das rund drei Monate. Für euch auch ein schönes neues Jahr 2025, freue mich auf weiteren Content von euch :)
@@824.silent For outdoors and long distances, i probably would go for the Begadi Fly7 and as heavy BBs as possible :) Thanks for your comment, have a good one!
great but there are also nuances, some barrels are more suitable for rubber, others less, even the same rubber can be slightly crookedly installed, which affects the trajectory, and a completely different rubber can behave differently after shooting 2-3k bbs 😮💨
Yes it's true what you say - even slight changes can have some impact. The question is: Is it possible to eliminte all variables to get a real, valid comparison? Thats because I said "you will get only tendencies" out of this video - more would not be honesst to the viewers. Thanks for your comment, have a good start to 2025!
Thank you :) The problem i saw was that some buckings did not come with a tensioner or had no specific advice on which one to use - at least as far as I know. This is why I decided for this compromise - but you're right, certain buckings would have more potential with their specific nubs! Have a good start to the new year!
Servus, mal eine frage hast du schon mal die BLOC Tactical LYNX Anti fog brille geteste. Ist eine echte brille für den scharfwaffen Bereich und ist euch preiswärt wen es nicht Beschlägt (70€) . Ein test wär da sehr cool. Werde mir auch selber die Brille holen und testen.
Grüß dich, bisher habe ich diese Brille noch nicht getestet. Aktuell stehen eine Reihe anderer Projekte an, aber wenn du magst berichte gerne mal wie das Teil sich schlägt :) Frohes Neues!
Worauf du nicht eingegangen bist, ist die These, dass gewisse Buckings erst eingeschossen werden müssen, damit sie besser funktionieren. Meinst du das stimmt bzw. ist ein relevanter Fakt?
Da hast du Recht, das habe ich nicht explizit erwähnt im Video. Aus meiner bisherigen Erfahrung macht sich ein Einschießen, wie es einige Shops empfehlen, kaum bis gar nicht bemerkbar. Gefühlt schießen meine Replicas auch nach mehreren 1000 Schuss genau wie am Anfang. Auch mit unterschiedlichen Buckings. Einige sagen, es braucht ein paar 100 Schuss, andere sprechen von 1000... habe das bisher so nicht bestätigen können. Vielleicht trifft es auch nur auf einige Hersteller zu. Aber wenn wir uns z.b. das 4uad bucking ansehen, das brandneu in die Waffe kam - viel besser kann es eigentlich nicht werden. Ob die "schlechteren" Buckings jetzt noch besser würden mit der Zeit kann ich leider nicht sagen, das hätte auch der Test leider zeitlich nicht hergegeben. Aber vielen Dank dass du es angemerkt hast, ist auf jeden Fall wichtig noch mal nachträglich was dazu zu sagen. Schönen Abend dir und guten Rutsch ins neue Jahr!
It must be like about 6.9mm or something - the patches fit like 100%, no space left at all. While the 7mm aluminium tensioner did not fit but it was veeeeery close. Otherwise, i would have used this one.
@rummbolt To get a proper result with the begadi mag7 I would have opened the window slightly over 7mm and used the 7mm nub. Why did you use the mag7 instead of the mag5, as most of the inner patches on the other brands are between 4mm/4.5mm/5mm width and length.
For the alst two years I have blindly sed to everyone who asked me which bucking tu buy to just gett ML Super macaron. Now I feel licke I have fooled doesends of good people into mediocracy
Haha, noo noo, the super-macaron is a solid bucking, and some of the "better" buckings (at least spoken from the results of this particular test) also have been released years later. If you ask me, the Super Macaron still is a very solid allrounder! But there are more advanced options available nowadays - not to speak about the question of the individual setup, in some builds, the ML buckings maybe really perfom best :) Have a good start to 2025, thanks for commenting!
Hm, I have not been aware of this bucking at all and just checked it up. Looks like it is a classic R-Hop dropin bucking, right? Wrote it on my list of buckings to test. Have a good start to the new year! Thanks for commenting!
Die Buckings solle man erstmal mit 1000 Schiuss ca einschießen. Dann perforemen die teilweise ganz anders :-) Der Test ist ne gute Sache, weißt aber sehr viele Fehler auf, die zu falschen Ergebnissen führen.
@@CashBricks Hallo und danke für deinen Kommentar. Die Angabe mit dem Einschießen findet sich nur bei einigen Herstellern, und auch dann variiert die Zahl der benötigten Schüsse stark. Begadi bspw. spricht von 200 bis 400, bei anderen sind es mehr. Meiner persönlichen Erfahrung nach tut sich durch das Einschießen nicht mehr sonderlich viel. Ich habe in den letzten 8 Jahren dutzende Buckings verbaut, und wenn ich nach einiger Zeit eine Veränderung der Bucking-Qualität festgestellt habe, war diese eher negativ als positiv. Um dem trotzdem gerecht zu werden , auch weil ich wusste dass User dazu kommentieren würden, habe ich immerhin ein 150bb Magazin pro Bucking durchgeschossen. Sowohl Begadi als auch andere Hersteller mit denen ich Kontakt habe, hatten an diesem Punkt nichts auszusetzen. Welche Fehler sind dir ansonsten aufgefallen?
@@rummbolt also buckings sind wirklich cent artikel in der produktion. nen freund, dem der skirmshop gehört hat mir mal bei nem Besuch in Japan bei Mapel Leaf nen paar videos von der produktion ect geschickt als die autobots und decepticon buckings raus kamen. Da sind immer wieder leichte unterschiede zwischen einzelnen buckings. Daher sollte man für einen aussagekräftigen Test immer mindesten 2-3 Buckings nutzen. Dann haast du keine Borecam genutzt um zu checken ob die Buckings alle immer 100% sauberverbaut wurden sondern dich auf deine Erfahrung verlassen. Dann wurden die Tests outdoor durchgeführt und nicht indoor in einer homogenen Umgebung. Wenn du aus NRW kommst können wir dir gerne unser Spielfeld für solche Tests anbieten. wir haben hallen die über 100M lang sind :-) Wir spannen die Waffen zum Beispiel anständig auf der Shooting Range ein, so dass jeder Aufbau exakt gleich ist. Ich finde es super, dass du dir so viel Mühle gemacht hast, aber wissenschaftlich gesehen hat das Video keine wirkliche Aussagekraft auf Grunde dieser Ungenauigkeiten. Also quasi viel Arbeit für RND Ergebnisse.
@@W0LKO Hm, also die Ergebnisse stehen eigentlich am Ende des Videos tabellarisch zusammengefasst :) Gewonnen hat das 4uantum Friction Pro Bucking, dicht gefolgt von den beiden Begadi Buckings :)
Hey Rummbolt! I want to Thank you for the insane amount of work put into this video, this is something the airsoft community needs. Keep up the great work! Subscribed and tuned for more!
Hey 4UAD-Team, great to read your comment! Amazing you like my content, your channel is a huge inspiration for me (and meanwhile, i installed several of your buckings to my replicas :P)
Have a great start to 2025, greetings to Taiwan!
Thanks man, and really do appreciate the work behind it, if there is anything you need in the future contact us, we will do our best to support you! Best wishes for 2025 Happy new year
Wow thats an amazing offer, thank you very much ☺️ Really appreciate it - If something comes to my mind, I'll let you know ☺️ Have a good one!
I saw the same spirit like yours in this video mate..
kudos for you both..
@@rraji866 Wow, I can't imagine a more complimenting statement - thanks a lot! Although the guys from 4uantum are on a completely other level of course, but I'm very happy you like my work as well. Have a good one!
You deserve more subs. This level of information and attention to detail and cinematography is better than 90% of people in the airsoft YT realm. Great job and keep on going.
Thank you very much my friend, I give my best to deliver Airsoft content that players and techs enjoy to watch - however it's quite time consuming, yes :P
Have a good start to 2025!
Dude you are a legend. This video is very informative and i’ll keep this in my mind and check it anytime when i decide to buy a bucking. Thank you ! Greetings from Turkiye
Thanks for your comment once again, Burak :)
I'm glad you also like this video - all the best to Turkey, and have a good start to the new year!
@@rummboltby the way, for your information, i get best results with maxx hopup, 4.5mm concave nub and 4uad bucking. It’s just a laser gun for around 50-60 meters 😊
@@BurakSahinOnline yeah this is basically the very same setup which is going to be installed in my upcoming MTW build! Stay tuned, video will follow!
I have the 4uad friction pro in my wolverine inferno gen 2 and for some reason it wont accept this bucking, begadi on the other hand, is incredible
@@danielarturodebernardogome832 maybe because of the lips of the bucking is way too long than begadi 🧐
Appreciate the time you spent making these comparations!
Thank you - indeed this particular one took me about 3 months from the first concept over ordering all the buckings, recording, analyzing the results and editing the video. So I really thank you for honoring this effort - keeps me motivated :) Have a good one!
I hope this video is going to make your chanel grow as it deserves, always great content, great attitude and honesty. You deserve a statue for all the work and time you put on this one!!!
I moved from the old guarder silicon to maple leaf macarons, then i found begadi and felt in love with all their products (not only the rubbers are awesome), maybe its time to go "orange" now XD.
Wow, such huge words, I feel honored! Thank you very much
Great video! Thank you for putting the effort in to make this, there is so much ambiguity with the real performance of different hop-up buckings, so it is great to finally get an objective comparison. In future, it would be awesome if you could do something similar for GBB/VSR style buckings too!
Thanks mate :) Glad you like the content! A GBB/VSR Test for sure is a hot candidate for a future video in 2025, just need to figure out in which replica it would be best to compare. Stay tuned - and have a good start to the new year!
Very nice video! Just ordered 4uantum buckings yesterday for all my team yesterday. Thank you for confirming my experiences.
Thanks mate! I'm sure you won't be disappointed :) Have fun with your new buckings and a good start to 2025!
Hi Rummbolt, awesome work comparing so many buckings and controlling for as many variables as possible. Thank you for this! We would have loved to see how our Gen3 Tru-Hop bucking compares to the others. Perhaps we can send you a replacement for a final comparison against your favorite buckings?
Thank you very much, dear TruSight Team!
When it's time for a second episode of this video, comparing further AEG Buckings, I will let you know - at the moment, it's just too cold and windy here in Germany. So long, the viewers can check out my video which I made specifically for the GEN3 Bucking :)
Have a good one!
Looks like 4UAD will be in my shop along side Maple Leaf, and more of them hahah.
Sounds good, I'm sure it will be worth it! Have a good one!
This video is super informative! Thanks for all your efforts man! 10/10
Thank you very much, happy you like the content! Have a good start to the new year :)
It's also very irellavent to the majority of airsofters. That nub alone will skew the results. This video sounds more like a shill sales pitch imho.
This is like the CNC Kitchen of airsoft youtubers. :D
Haha :P Have a good one!
Rummbolt, great job on this testing! Super useful work that the community can benefit from.
For your next test of this nature, I recommend you add also a chrono reading of a few shots after the hop up adjustment for the 20m and the 50m testing, as well as the hop setting number on the Neptun (and add that data to the summary table).
I suspect it might provide some insight into the non intuitive result of some buckings performing great on 20m and poorly on 50m, and vice versa.
Anyway, keep up the good work. Subscribed!
Great point
Thank you for your comment and the sub - both very appreciated!
For upcoming videos of this kind, I will add a chrono test for every bucking at least in form of one added photo or so - I agree it would deliver valuable information :) Have a good start to 2025!
Absolute legend for making this video.
Thanks mate, that means a lot to me :) :) I'm glad you liked the video, Have a good start to the new year!
This is exactly what I was looking for great video
I'm glad you found what you were looking for :) Thanks for your comment, have a good one!
Incredible video, would love to see some more internal comparisons maybe even on some pistol buckings? Either way you've earned my sub 🙏
Thank you very much both for commenting and subscribing! Happy you like my content - more tests and project build reports are going to come, so stay tuned in 2025 :)
Have a good one!
Ich muss echt sagen das ist das beste Video zu dem Thema das ich bis jetzt gesehen hab👍🏻. Hab aber n paar sachen vermisst. zum Beispiel währe es cool gewesen wenn du die ganzen Buckings vor den Präzisions Tests nochmal mim Crono gemessen hättest, konstante Leistung ist ja auch ein Faktor bei den Dingern. Und du hast ja soweit ich weiß auch ein Rhop setup und ein stock TM setup(die mit dem scheiss Gummi Rohr als Tensioner) rumliegen, da hättest du die zum Vergleich eig auch grad mit ins Video rein nehmen können.
Falls da ein Teil 2 für kommt empfehle ich auch dir mal die Silent Industries Alpha huu anzugucken, ist echt ein super Teil👌🏻 ich guck die Neptun nichtmal mehr mim Arsch an seit dem ich die hab. Die kommt auch bestimmt gut fürs Video weil die nochmal 1-2 variablen aus dem Ergebnis raus nimmt und dafür ausgelegt ist mit Original Tensionern von den jeweiligen Herstellern benutzt zu werden ohne die TDC Funktion zu verlieren
Danke dir, das ehrt mich :) Freut mich dass dir der Content gefällt!
Das mit dem Chrono habe ich auch überlegt, hätte aber das Video noch mehr gestreckt. Als zusätzliche Einblendung vllt, und dann nur was dazu sagen wenn auffällig viel oder wenig Energie da ist. Über die Neptun hoffe ich aber alles recht dicht gekriegt zu haben immerhin.
Das alte R-Hop Setup habe ich damals für das Trusight Gen3 "geopfert", das gibts so nicht mehr. Ein stock TM Setup habe ich glaub ich noch nie gespielt, jedenfalls nicht seit ich RUclips mache. Oder ich habs vergessen :D Die Buckings im Vid waren so ziemlich alle AEG Buckings die ich grad habe :P
Von der Silent Industries Alpha Unit habe ich auch schon gehört, wird Zeit dass ich mir die auch mal genauer anschaue -danke für den Tipp und einen guten Rutsch ins neue Jahr!
Sehr informatives Video! So einenn umfangreichen Vergleich wünscht sich jeder Airsoftspieler. Gute Arbeit. Ich persönlich bin sehr mit dem Friction Pro zufrieden :-)
Schönen Dank für das Lob, freut mich sehr! Auch wenn es natürlich erstmal nur die Performance in meinem Build widerspiegelt - die Tendenzen die sich daraus ableiten lassen, in Kombination mit den verschiedenen Kommentaren die bisher eingegangen sind, zeichnen doch ein recht klares Bild finde ich :)
Frohes Neues und liebe Grüße!
Another great video man! You cleared a few questions I had about different hop rubbers. Also, I thoght that Maple Leaf rubbers will give better results.
For the next video I would suggest that you finish this test with the Unicorn rubber and the one, that you damaged. Also I would add some standard hop rubbers (G&G green, Guarder rubber....).
Greetings, nice to see another comment of yours on this video :)
Glad you like the content!
Yeah, I also thought about just doing the same but with a set of 8,9...X more buckings, there are much more candidates that have not been covered yet....Let's see what the future brings!
All the best for you, have a good start to 2025!
@@rummbolt Looking forward to it. And all the best in the new year to you as well
:)
Mega Interessant, bin sehr froh dass des 4uantum so gut abgeschnitten hat, das empfehl Ich praktisch jedem der mich fragt seit gut paar Monaten :P
Danke für den Test!
Danke dir :) Denke auch, das 4uad kann sich sehen lassen - bisher noch keine Enttäuschung mit dem AEG Bucking erlebt. Bald kommt es auch in meine MTW - Projektvideo folgt! Guten Start ins neue Jahr dir!
@rummbolt Spannend! In meiner MTW laeuft das Bucking super, Ich wuerds wahrscheinlich in meiner frisch bestellten SRS mal probieren die nutzt ja auch AEG Buckings.
Drücke die Daumen dass es gut läuft!
Wow very informative test! Just one suggestion I would have is to multiply the width and height of the groupings so it gives an area value of the spread, which is what is sought after compared to just summing them up.
Thank you, sir!
You are probably right, values in cm² are more "popular" than added cm+cm.
But when I thought about it before testing, the grade of information about the groupings quality i found to be quite "similar", besides one measures the actual area, and the other one just the added distance.
The absolute difference between all buckings values would be higher on cm² than on cm...
But hey, I'm getting almost philosphical here -> I will re-consider my choice for the next video of this kind :)
Have a good start to 2025!
my friend.looking for ages a test between begadi vs maple leath ,thank you!great video
Thank you very much, I'm glad you like the comparison! Have a good start to the new year :)
Danke für die tolle Arbeit die du dir da gemacht hast ! Dein Kanal ist klasse ich hoffe du bekommst noch viel mehr Abonnenten die deine Arbeit schätzen.
Hey David, vielen Dank, die netten Worte weiß ich sehr zu schätzen :)
Freut mich dass dir mein Content gefällt, für das neue Jahr ist auch schon wieder viel geplant. Wünsche dir einen guten Rutsch und freue mich, wenn du mal wieder vorbei schaust ^.^
Worth noting that the MRhop is listed to work better with their barrels, the front section of the patch is longer than most. I had to file the window much larger on my stock vsr10
This is interesting to know, thanks for adding this information :) Have a good one!
Hi there, great video I must say, the 50m test can be hard thanks to the outside conditions, but very valuable test nonetheless.
especially the 20m test really shows which bucking and the style is more consistent. I must say I want to try the begadi buckings now, which are hard to obtain in my country.
MRHop is really a tricky one, I think silicone ones apply more hop by its rubber counterparts, maybe you would want to try blue or pink ones to offset that. I don't think barrel window length was a problem in this test, since you used the begadi's longer bucking without any issue. I would check that regardless.
You're right, it can be really tough to find testing conditions for a valdid comparison - I tried my best, but there will always be room for improvements :) Next time for example, I hope to be able filming in a different location, even more wind-protected.
Have a good start to the new week, thanks for your comment!
@@rummbolt excited for the next video!
Very good comparison test. Also your idea, of letting your shooting plattform be the same for all tests is very important. As you already said, your tensioner choice affects a lot of variables, including what kind of patch surface is being used.
What i am trying to say is: If you would have used a flat tensioner, the MR-Style Hop Buckings would have been even better, than they where already. 😜
They are just allways the way to go. Especially for outdoor play where .32g is the lighter end of BB weights.
The idea is to have a big patch surface, so it can empart better spin on the BB while not loosing too much speed process. Problem is, you need a very even tensioner surface, every irregularity will make your BB hook left or right. The curved tensioner is one thing, but the way it sits in the HU is also important. To move, it needs clearence, clearence means that it can apply the hop, ever so slighty different.
Again, what i am trying to say is: Your rifle is already shooting very well, but it coul be ever so sligthly better. 🤣
Hi and thanks a lot for commenting :)
I get all your points and agree 100%, the thing is when you prepare such a video, you have to choose for the best compromise setup (or what you think it could be, haha. You also learn a lot while doing so). A different tensioner + heavier BBs would for sure something to check out for the next video. Thanks for sharing your experience with us!
Have a good start to 2025, all the best!
@@rummbolt You have already alot, if not most. It was a joy to watch and very interessting to see the results.
To be honest, i think you allready did most to cover all bases. I wouldn't even know how to follow up such a video. Other than maybe to look how such a tests fairs for GBB/Springer/HPA Systems, then again, that would be alot of work.
Regardless, this here, is a very good video to give someone a quick jet detailed overview. Well done.
@@mucke7907 Thanks again ^.^
Yes, GBB/VSR is for sure worth too take a closer look.
Also in terms of AEG, making the Unicorn work, + Trusight Gen3 + G&G Green + Prommy Purple + ML MR-Hop Non-Silicone + the newer TNT Bucking, not the H.L.R. one + maybe Begadi 5s ... etc, there are so many ideas, I need to have the day 48 hours :D Have a good one!
Very well done!
Thank you very much, I'm glad you like the content! Have a good one!
Super Test! Finds gut das sich auch andere so damit befassen außer mir 😊! Aber was ich krass finde ist der Misslungene Test mit dem Unicorn! Ich hab den jetzt schon oft verbaut und find den super 👍. Den Slong Bucking der bei den Slong Läufen dabei ist finde ich auch stark! Den 4uantum hab ich mir irgendwie schlecht geredet für AEG. Aber in den GBBs finde ich den super gut. Begadi machst bei Fly 5 und 7 nichts falsch.
Aber ich finde den Test wirklich geil.
Hey Flori, danke dir :) Das mit dem Unicorn lag zu 99% am Tensioner, der hat die Patchfläche einfach nicht genug runter gedrückt. Mit nem anderen Tensioner sieht das bestimmt deutlich besser aus - interessant dass du davon so begeistert bist auf jeden Fall, ich nehme es mir 2025 noch einmal vor :P
Das alte Slong Bucking fand ich auch immer grundsolide, hatte ich aber leider nicht mehr da, sonst wäre es auch in den Test gekommen.
Und bei 4uad scheinen sich die Geister zu scheiden - einige feiern es ziemlich, bei anderen funktioniert es überhaupt nicht. Ich für meinen Teil finde es ziemlich gut (außer in meiner Sniper, das GBB-Bucking von denen will bei mir wiederum überhaupt nicht funktionieren). Aber so ist das eben, diese Tests sind einfach nicht wirklich allgemeingültig - das Gesamt-Puzzle aus Bauteilen muss einfach passen.
Guten Start ins neue Jahr und viele Grüße!
@ wenn du willst. Ich hab mir 3 Slong super Precision Läufe gekauft. Das sind die ohne Loch aber mit 3 Kerben um mit O-Ringe den innen und aussenlauf zu fixieren! Sehr guter Lauf für kleines Geld bei POWAIR6! Also hab ich Gummis über! Ja die UNICORN nutz ich immer mit den Omega Tensioner! Sehr gute Ergebnisse wie gesagt. Gibt noch so einige andere gute. Aber du hast eh viele zusammen geworfen die viele noch nicht auf dem Schirm hatte. Der TNT T-Hop ist auch genial gut! Aber ist von so viel abhängig immer!
Aktuell muss ich erstmal sehen wo ich die ganzen übrig gebliebenen Buckings verbaue, aber vielen Dank für das Angebot - wenn ich welche brauche, komm ich gern drauf zurück :) Schönen Abend dir!
@ hast Bock sich mal privat aus zu tauschen?
Klar gerne, schreib mir einfach im ASVZ würd ich vorschlagen:)
A lot of job behind this! Thanks for that! If in the future you made an VSR/GBB version dont forget the modify X-range, is great
Thaaank you very much :)
I already installed the X-Range in the SSG-10 of my Teammate Danzig, and I think it's very good!
For a future vid on the GBB buckings, it definitely will be part of the test!
Have a good start to 2025!
awesome video, keep up the good work!
Thank you very much, artofmagic! I'll do my best! Have a great start to 2025 :)
Fantastic video will there be a GBBR version of this in the future?
Be interested in that as I’m looking to upgrade some of my gbbr’s
Thank you my friend!
I thought about a GBBR / VSR Version, yes. But am not sure which replica to pick, as I would like to avoid movement due to the blow back effect and manual reloading. So an easy to disassembly NBB rifle would be perfect. You have an idea?
Have a good one!
Always here to inspire 😊😊
@@lovehellokitty16 Even though i did not use your idea of making several videos out of this one, still thanks for helping with bringing up the concept ❤️
nice work, i got 4uantum Friction Pro in mine one project and its pretty good ..when I had the ML rubber in the chamber, it had a higher performance, but it was not consistent and neither as accurate nor as far as I expected, after the replacement for 4uantum Friction Pro, got lower performance but more stable and overall better shooting and range.. project still continue both bucking tested on ML barell in Aspro chamber .. next on test its silent industries hop chamber
Thank you for sharing your experience, I'm sure a lot of viewers will find it useful :) Have a good one!
The 4uantum lowers performance but is more consistent? Wdym by performance? I’m new sorry
Wirklich sehr gutes Video! Danke für deine Mühe beim Vergleich.
Hilft wirklich sich zu entscheiden was man einbaut. Bisher habe ich das X-Range, MR Hop und Flamingo genutzt.
Leider hast du das XRange und Flamingo nicht im Test gehabt.
Ein Test auf Long Range (70m) mit Sniper und GBB/VSR Bucking wäre, für mich, super interessant.
Hi JackLee, danke für deinen Kommentar :) Freut mich dass dir das Video gefällt!
X-Range und Flamingo sind soweit ich weiß reine GBB/VSR-Buckings, oder? In diesem Test hätten sie also nicht in die Replica gepasst - aber für einen kommenden Test im GBB/VSR Bereich wären die beiden Kandidaten auf jeden Fall am Start!
Guten Rutsch ins neue Jahr wünsche ich!
@@rummbolt Da bin ich schon gespannt drauf, danke!
Und wünsche dir auch einen Guten Rutsch.
Please get another trusight and make the unicorn work with a lower tensioner. I would love to see the different styles tested alongside our 3 main groups. Since theyre the most experimental they should give the most interesting results
Hello and thanks for your comment :) For the Trusight, I already made a video you can find on my channel, where at least the longer distance is covered. The Unicorn one, I probably will test in one of my project builds in 2025 and then will shoot like the other ones in this test.
Have a good start to the new year!
@rummbolt Thanks. I'm interested in the unicorn, it's a wastly different design to every other bucking. It seems to me it'll either make it so BBs will curve all over the place. Or give a nice good hop. I would personally also like to see you test G&G green and Prommy purple with an Rhop patch (if you have a prommy barrel, maybe try the Silent İndustries patches.) as an addition.
@@vulpix9210 Yes, a lot of interesting ideas to find out whats behind them - I will come back to the comment section when planing the next test videos :) Thank you!
@@rummbolt I just received my Kythera, silent industries alpha, and wraithX stock. I also have an Rhop patch from silent. And I also have some 4uad buckings. I will try both configs with my 407mm prommy barrel. Trying to build a counter sniper DMR that's effective to where all bolt actions are effective to.
Yo great vid! Consistent results and testing. Can you do one for pistols/snipers in the future?
Thank you very much! Maybe i could think about a GBB bucking comparison in my VSR-style sniper replica, but i would need a longer shooting range then. When it's time, you will see on my channel for sure! Have a good start to the new year!
Hello again! I noticed youre reviewing my LC bucking! I must say, there must be an issue with your gun setup. At 20M i get a MAX 15cm grouping... And thats out of a DSG, not a DMR build. It is sensitive to what nozzle is used, and some nozzle will actively make the fun shoot very innacurate
I personally use the Maxx M4E with the Square Mnub (orange squishy thing). It does not work well with metal concave nubs. I will try to get a shooting video as soon as possible, but its freezing outside.
Also for future reference, its 65A durometer ;)
I forgot to mention, but we just finished the design of our own nozzle designed specifically for this bucking. If you would like, we can send you one for testing. I can promise that 28cm will drop yo below 15cm easily with the Maxx m4E, our nozzle and the LC bucking
Hey hey, nice to hear from you again :)
The nozzle I used was from Epes i think, did you test with those before?
Also considering tensioners, the aluminium Begadi one was just my attempt to find a compromise thats "fair" for most of the buckings, but I'm aware with your specific tensioner (and nozzle) it most likely will perform better.
Still, I'm very impressed of the 50m performance of your bucking - it shot amazing, especially in this distance and was a strong competitor to the Begadi and 4uantum buckings!
Coming back to your offer - thank you very much! My agenda for the next months already is pretty full, maybe we can talk again in some months (also when it's warmer, here in Europe haha).
By the way - your shipment from Canada was super-fast! The buckings I ordered arrived in Germany in not even a week - amazing!
Wish you a great start to the new year 2025 :)
I have had mixed results with the 4uantum friction pros due to loosening inside my hopup causing loose shots after only 150 rounds. I tried readjusting and the same results. Ive gone back to my Maple Leaf Monster because it fits tighter so it doesnt move around as much.
This is interesting. Did the bucking rotate, so you got curved shots? or did it move forward and backwards, causing leaks in airseal? = what what the issue you experienced on the BB?
Despite I really like the comparison, I would like to add another point so we can take it into account.
First, if the manufacturer/brand says something about making some "pre shooting" with the bucking (300~ shots) to start having a consistent effect.
Second, how durable is the bucking of choice.
Note: Consider adding the transparent guarder one, really good results, cheap and good lasting.
Hello and thanks for your comment :)
I'm aware of this "break-in" period some manufacturers recommend - and wanted to take it into account at least a little by shooting an entire magazine down range.
From my personal experience however, the performance of a bucking does not change significantly over time after the first installation, but I have no valid data on this. Many buckings still performed very good in this test video I think, even while not having been shot-in for a longer time.
Also thank you for mentioning the transparent guarder bucking, I added it to the list for a potential part 2 of this video.
Have a good one!
The 4uantum ones are awsome
I could not agree more! Have a good start to the new year *.*
Dude, you put our packaging upside down.😆
Hey, nice to read of one more manufacturer here in the comments :)
The packaging? I'm not sure what you're referring to, for me it looks allright the way I displayed it.
Or you mean the bucking? I'm actually quite confused, did I use your bucking wrong? (Besides the tensioner, but this is because of the test setup, I'm aware your bucking will work better with a different nub)
Have a good one!
I think he mean the bucking upside down.
Besides of that I am a Long term unicorn product user, it’s work really well in my GBB and my friends AEG. I can shot over 80M in my GBB MWS when using unicorn hop up bucking and inner barrel.
I am thinking is that your hop up chamber setting problems?
@rummbolt you're aware it will be shown as worse performing in the video yet you did it anyway? That's odd lol.
Well i'm going to have to try on of the Friction Pros. Maple Leaf Macaron was always my go to (with the triangular patch).
You should also try the Begadi Fly rubbers. I've had a good experience with those too.
Hi and thanks for your comment :)
The fly7 in the Test performed very good indeed :) But also with the fly5, i made some very good experience before. Have a good start to 2025!
very hepfull test for a lot of airsofters👍
for my AEG im using the quantum friction pro and it shoots lazers (with stock plastic hopup chamber and 6.01 RAVEN PDI 395mm barrel)
i also tried their GBB bucking on the hpa ssp5 and works really well but the stock bucking works perfectly too.
Very appreciated, thank you sir!
From what i read so far, many people are making good experience with the 4uad bucking, however there are some who seem to have their problems with it. Sometimes, it's just a mystery to me. Have a good start to the new year!
I have the GBB bucking in my Shadow 2. It shoots up to 50-60 meters laser accurate. It's kind of crazy that I sometimes pull the pistol out for quick shots around cover due to 0 trigger delay. Well, I'll have my Kythera built now I just got the parts. But still.
Hello there, you mistook our hardness of hop up rubber on label, the said 65° was old stock before 2018, no wonder it failed you.
BTW, this W-HOP UP design we built has long been renovated since 2018 and labeled as 60°. Kindly updated.
Hello and thanks for your comment, great to read the statement of one more manufacturer :)
Interesting there are still products of those old badges around, as I bought it new (!) in ~Ocotber 2024 from a well-known Airsoft Shop in Germany. Probably, they did not sell all the old parts, so it is still available.
In a future test, I would look out for the newest version of your buckings :)
Have a good start to 2025!
Would love to see how the Prommy purple and G&G green rubbers fit into this lineup, they seem to be the most common in the UK
I thought about adding those, because of their huge popularity and the "classic" prestige - just decided against them because a) already too many buckings and b) the oldscool patch surface. Should have droped the Aimtop and the defective TruSight in favor for them. Too late now - maybe for a next video :) Have a good start to the new year, thanks for your comment!
Fyi many people that use prommy purples or G&G greens (me included when I'm using them) shave the inside and use them as either A. A flat hop directly. Or B. Rhop. What I would like to see is a proper Rhop added to the test using either G&G green or prommy purple as base.
tbh the 4UAD rubbers are insane, i managed to push 100metres nearly on my l119a2 and 70metres on my SSR90 with them
Outperforms my Rhop on my SR-25. I don't get it. Further testing is required because I can push 80+ meters but my yard ends at 80 meters.
Amazing distances, this just underlines the high quality of this great bucking in my eyes :) Have a good start to 2025!
Begadi does say it needs about 200-300 (not sure what exactly) break-in time. Did you take those into account?
Yes, I know they write it on their product pages.
By shooting an entire mag down the range, I at least tried to break it in a little, but to be honest I never noticed a serious effect of breaking a bucking in - not in the preperations for this video, and not in earlier project builds. Besides, the Begadi buckings performed quite well, so they did not really need a break-in period if you ask me. But: This actually would be worth one more video to find out. So many ideeeaas :D Have a good one!
Very nice Video, I guess I have to try the Quantum and Begadi rubbers.
Although im getting some Tru-Hops in a Sparepartspackage I bought so I might need to Test those too(and watch you Vid. about them.)
Thank you my friend :) I think, you will make a great choice with all the four buckings you named here - my personal ranking would be #1 4uantum #2 MAG7 #3 FLY7 #4 Truhop Gen3 - but it's very close all in all. Have a good start to the new year!
@@rummbolt Yeah watched the Vid about the True Hop, which seems to be more of a 0,5 Joule Hop maybe.
Same to you.
PS. I love your Apartment/Housing location, very stylish(and also usefull for vids IG) :D
Deserves more likes
Thank you sir, every like is appreciated :) Have a good one and let some BBs fly!
Yes, please do max range test with best buckings on 0.3 and/or 0.4 weight bb’s
The idea is noted, I hope I can produce the video in spring 2025 :) Thank you very much!
Would live to see the exact same video but for gbbr style hop up rubbers.
Maybe that's something for the time when it gets warmer in 2025 again, so I can use my G36 GBB again for it :)
@rummbolt I would love to see it. Doesn't have to be gbbr though could be anything vsr-10 spec. I just said gbbr's because power wise it should be the closest to the aeg you tested. 😁
Dude.. great video! This is good
Thank you very much again - have a great start to 2025 :)
I have had fantastic results with the max aluminum extended 7mm rhop nub on an rhop barrel using a flat hoped g&g green bucking. I know everyone has different results but I've never had a standard bucking outpreform my 7mm rhoped barrel... Preformes even better with my tuned Fusion Engine
Hello and thanks for your comment!
Yeah, I basically learned in the comment section of this video that G&G green seems veery popular as a flat / straight hop bucking (+ eventually R-Hop) .. something I'd like to test in the future as well, if I find the time. Have a good start to the new year :)
Hi, absolutely love the video!!! Finally someone did this sort of test... I think i can add a bit of info, as the uni hop had my curiosity for quite a while and i have made extensive testing on it. I have tried it in many setups, mainly a g&g gc16, a WE g36c, a WE g18c and in an Ares AS-01. I think it might be the most accurate bucking i have ever tried, however, i can't get it to shoot far, making it almost useless if not for pistols or smgs... I don't really know why, as the patch is not that short, it might be the material they use. The only setup that gets me good range is the g36c, but I can't understand why (maybe the bigger air volume as it is gbb[???]), and i am still not sure it gets that good of a range as an r hop type bucking. If you find out how to get it to shoot far i beg you to make a video about it, i think it has potential to be a great bucking
Hey hey, and thanks for your informative comment :)
My assumption why the unicorn failed in the test was because the tensionor did not reach"deep" enough to hop my 0.32g BBs. A "higher" tensioner SHOULD help here, but I did not test it yet. I'm also curious how it will perform, especially after I read a lot good experience about it in the latest comments!
Have a good start to 2025, all the best to you!
Can you add a legacy hop up setup in a next video ?
Modify flathop
Prometheus purple flat hopped with a namazu firefly (red)
G&g green flat hopped with a namazu firefly (red)
Hello and thanks for your comment :) I think, self-made mods are not going to be included in future HU-Bucking comparisons, as the perfomrance depends a lot on how you accurate your work is. But I note your suggestions as well, for a complete list of possible combinations. Have a good one!
Wish this vid came out last week. Bought a 70° MR hop
Oh damn, but thats so often in case in airsoft - i know exactely how you feel :P Fortunately, it's "only" a hop up bucking, so you could order another one and keep the MR Hop as a spare for example. Or test it, and maybe it will work fine for you :) Have a good start to the new year, and thanks for your comment!
MR Hop is good, just not the silicone version he tested...
i use the original TM in my G3 and its 20 Years old and still works like new, this gun Shoots like a laser
Oh wow, this truly must be the famous "Tokyo Marui Magic"! Have a good start to one more year with a well perfoming bucking :)
@@rummbolt Jeah the Performance of this Old Guns is unbelivable, have a Good New Year too😃
now we need to do this again for different builds and play style ;) ,because from experince DSG builds are extreamily picky with bucking, i love the friction pro but renctly put it in my freind dsg build and the performance was aweful but put in maple leaf mr hop and boom worked like a charm
Oh yeah, there are so much different build- and use-case-options you could do, just for seeing the effect of the different buckings... they are basically endless :D But enough inspiration for future videos for sure :P
Thanks for commenting, have a good start to the new year!
@@rummbolt awesome , look forward to seeing the other test you do :)
We need this for gbb bucking!
It's already on my agenda for this year :)
Thanks for your comment, have a good one!
Great vid!
Thaaank you very much - have a great start to the new year 2025!
@ thank you, and may you have a great 2025 also 👌
Thanks for your uploads, it’s very unique and really covers such important things that no one really covers on RUclips. Especially not as well explained and detailed as yours
I used 4uantum Friction Pro on my VSR10 build, and got very good consistency groupings. I was using Tridos TDC on stock vsr10 hop, but when I change my hopup unit to AA red with Tridos TDC, 4uantum bucking gave me inconsistent hops. I changed the bucking to ML autobot 60D, and the consistency came back. So I think, 4uantum bucking might not be compatible with AA red hopup unit on Vsr10. Still impress with 4uantum's bucking though.
Interesting, thanks for reporting your results!
I tested the 4uantum VSR Bucking once before in my build and saw decreasing energy on a modified Well MB03 unit.
Probably, this will vary from setup to setup. In a potential GBB Version of this video, the 4uantum for sure will be included :)
Have a good one!
Great video
Thank you very much! Have a good start to the new year!
TBH, compatibility has been a controversial issue, that's why hop up manufacturers attached their own tensioners or nubs in packages.
Is concave style suitable for all kinds of contact inside? It's a rhetorical question, let alone the set you used were all aligned to a specific brand from chamber/nub/rubber, better to go first with stock settings in their package and make comparison then.
It's true, actually you need to build your replica "around" the bucking and optimize every part for a perfect match (if that's even possible at all, haha). Which makes a valid test / comparison like this more or less obsolete. But experience (mine and of many users here in the comments) shows, that the tendency of how well buckings perfom already can give a good hint which bucking to pick :)
Thanks for commenting, have a good start to 2025!
very good video very informative. suprised the flamingo wasnt included ,
Thanks to you!
I think, the flamingo is a VSR / GBB bucking, right? Maybe this is something for a later video :) Have a good start to the new year!
@@rummbolt ah yes you’re right brother , thank you and you too , have a great year ahead , subbed for you top man
@@TheGun311 Thank you so much! Every sub means the world to me :)
Hi. Very good video. I think you should use begadi 5 series. Unlike the 7 Series, the pressure points on the 7 Series rub against the window as the window opens. This requires some small space so that the pressure points do not touch the window.
----I am an avid modder. I'm after laser-like shots. So this led me to modify a VSR-10 and I would use 8 different brands of Buking (three hardnesses for each brand). Even my AEG does.
Ah, there is another very important point. Begadi's bucking is slightly harder than other ordinary bucking. So using 50° is the best choice.
This is a set of very valuable information, thank you! Will consider all this for my future projects - also made very good experience with Begadi 5s as well :)
Have a good start to 2025!
Really want to see how unicon performs.
In my own experience they are really good.
Yeah, the sheer amount of comments mentioning the Unicorn also makes me curious to test it soon on a different tensioner :P When I find time to test it in video, you will see it here for sure! Have a good start to 2025, thanks for commenting!
Moin. Gutes Video. Vielleicht hätte man noch kurz chronowerte einblenden können, ob sich an der Energie gravierend was geändert hat.
Ich habe jetzt zwei mal das Predator Bucking und performt einfach mega. In einer AK mit Nebo und SVU.
Danke für dein Feedback! Für ein Folgevideo werde ich das mal in Betracht ziehen mit dem Chrono. Auch schön zu hören dass das Predator offenbar bei dir besser läuft als bei mir :P
Guten Rutsch ins neue Jahr, LG!
I’d love a range video
Thanks for your feedback, it's noted! Have a good one!
Great video, thanks
Thanks buddy, I'm glad you like the test! Have a good start to the new year!
@rummbolt and you too
Great video! Very well done, although my results with the quantum 4 bucking have not been good so far. My LCT RPK with a Lonex hop unit had feeding issues with the Maple Leaf super and the quantum 4 fixed that but does not have good range and also dropped the joules from 1.5 to 1.2 for some odd reason. Still experimenting with some different set ups, but I will say the super macaron in my PKM with the Bull gear hop unit can hit people 300ft + no problem, it’s ridiculous!
Thanks mate :) Its funny how completely different the buckings perform from replica A to replica B. This is what makes testing and comparing so difficult. If you saw this video for example, and would have bought the 4uad - you probably would have been very disappointed because it's not like you saw on screen. This is why I tried to make it as clear as possible that the test only can give a "tendency" of a comparison.
However, I'm glad the Super Macaron works so well for you!
Have a good start to the new year 2025!
I have done similar tests to this in my 15+ years in Airsoft and as tech in enf i found the g&g green is the best all around if paired with an h nub spacer .
I mainly use these h nub spacer and pps steel barels and results are awesome!
And where i live Airsoft outside is at norm 1.7 j or higher and cqb outdoor and indor 1.2 j so for everything within 1- 2 j i found it works really nice with said setup in most hopups unless you have super cnc over tight tolerance hops yea then it will not work but then most else neither.
Sadly these days people dont try they dont test usually somebody else who build so whats good its sadly one sided alot.
Thats why people get so offensive in bucking questions like it was politics lol.
I found that only by doing actual documented tests light and extreme range and all in between you can for sure say if something its truly good
Most people dont tech and somebody else build for them and this is why so much bad information comes out from people who dont know.
Thats why videos like this is good.
Hey hey and thanks for your comment.
I think is, one possible reason for the "behaviour" you describe is that those tests are veery time consuming and you need the possible for a shooting range, not everyone has. BUT: Acting like they know anything better, while not even having tested in their own personal setup for sure is a problem.
As long as I can, I will try to deliver more of those tests on my channel to at least give you better impressions of certain products - however, they can and will perform differently in Build A, B, C...
Have a good start to 2025!
Makes sense, as the h-nubs make pressure on sides of the seam, making it completely flat for the bbs… have you tried madbull redshark or even 4uad as it is almost the same principle as the seam with an h-nub?
@@danielarturodebernardogome832 cost more less co operative with most barrels and hops etc. i mostly use G&G green becus it works with most hops and h nubs. it also less expesive wich is an huge thing becus not everyone have huge budget. i have worked with basically all brands so i know what goes in what. problem airsoft is airsoft and tolerances is not like real wepons and nothing is truly universal in aisoft even if its same gun diferent brands. done this for 15+ years by now so i know how stuff works And G&G green with h nub works for most not everything but many and its actually good for the price and what it is
❤ for this one
@@lovehellokitty16 ❤️ back for you!
Airsoft kitchen 😂😂😂 good to see someone make it to be science test ❤
Haha, now i just need a good 3D-Printer to make my own buckings :D
Have a good start to 2025!
I switched from the Macaron to the Friction Pro about 4 months ago and agree its the better bucking
Hello, great to read the Friction Pro works fine for you as well :)
Have a good start to 2025 and thanks for your comment!
So for my 2 AEG what would you recomend? I got an DMR with Crazy Jet Barrel 6.03 455 mm. 2.2 J with 0.36 what bucking would you go with? And my other one is an MP5 also with crazy Jet barrel and 1.3 J with 0.28. I dont know if i should change the barrel 😃 my mp5 is the Cyma Platium upgraded version. DMR is full custom
I think i would go with the Begadi Fly7 70° for the DMR and the 4uad Bucking for the MP5. But thats only my personal opinion :)
Hope it will work out nicely for you, have a good one!
@rummbolt 4uad?
@jonastoftnilsson The 4uantum Friction Pro Bucking :)
Give the tnt TR hop a go, it should be significantly better than the silicon one, the silicon buckings besides g&g green are always garbage. Would love to see the comparison.
Also I think testing .36 would be a better option for outdoors. However at very low joules it may be difficult to lift reliably. R hop doesnt have much advantage unless ur shooting heavy, usually 0.4+ is where u see the significant difference. Without the bucking being depressed enough, the 2 sides arent lowered enough to make contact with the bb and thus is less stable.
It is not surprising to see flat hop being more accurate however, r hop's greatest advantage is its ability to lift virtually anything at the maximum distance. However its very unstable below .36 and im surprised u got such good results with them, especially with the ml MR hop which is a hit or miss often.
I think u need another test for HPA, because hpa is a totally different beast when it comes to bucking choices due to the immense air volume. Stuff that works well on aegs doesnt always work on hpa and vise versa.
Personally cant make the 4uad bucking work. Never really understood the single contact point idea. It does do .25s really well however, so maybe its just heavy weights that it struggles with.
I often read, R-Hop Style buckings work best with heavier BBs, and I'm willing to believe this.
On the other hand, i think the test shows the used 0.32gs work quite good as well.
Considering HPA-Buckings: I personally don't see why AEG buckings should perform differently in a HPA-driven system, as long as both AEG and HPA are aligned well. But I'm open to get prooved wrong of course :)
Interesting the 4uantum bucking does not work for you. But it's like always in airsoft, one has to find the ideal products for the own individual builds. Videos like mine can only image personal experience and maybe a tendency of how products COULD work.
Thanks for commenting, have a good one!
I agree with 4uantum. They struggle lifting heavy bbs. I mean, they can lift heavy bbs but lose too much power. I had better resulta with Mr. Hop and Mag7 from begadi.
How can a bucking Rhop style be inaccurate at 20meters and accurate at 50 meters?? That usually shouldn’t be possible right? The further you shoot, the more the bb’s will be off target. (One slightly to the left at 20meter, should be off way more at 50mtr?)
That's what I did not really understand as well - and what I wanted to test (see the little drawing with the 20 and 50 meter targets). Obviously, 20m accuracy does not say too much about the final precision at 50m - or I had just bad luck at the groupings? But having the "worst" groupings all together in the R-Hop group seems to be a little to many for "just" coincidence... I don't know, open to more speculations :P Have a good one!
I have an idea as to why it could behave like this. When you look at the shots at 50m, you can sometimes see a shot that wirls sideways off target just to come back again and hit. my assumption would be that the axis of the spin on the bb isn't straight in the middle (---), but more like (/). so when you see the 20m test, the bb has started its off acis trajectory, but not come back in again before it gets closer to 50m. Id love to see the same type of tests that Rummbolt did, but with heavier bbs, 0.40+, and possibly shorter barrels 150-300mm. if i dont take on that task myself at some point👏
Ha, had the same video idea. You beat me to it good one m8
Haha thank you :) Never too late to make a similar video, maybe your results will be different? Have a good start to the new year!
Cool video. I was under the impression that r hop buckings were smooth on the inside to accommodate an rhop patch installed over the barrel window. I wonder how integrated rhop buckings compare to a traditional straight bucking with rhop patch installed? Airsoft confuses me.
Thank you very much :)
From my personal experience, the traditional R-Hop Patch + straight bucking on the one hand and the newer drop-in R-Hop Buckings on the other hand don't bring a huge difference in terms of performance / range / accuracy. But the drop-ins are way more easy to install!
Have a good one :)
Can we have a spreadsheet with the data you collected?
Sure, I will upload one to Dropbox and link it to the video infobox. Please check again in 2025, then you'll find it there. Have a good one!
Hi Rummbolt, for the 4UANTUM bucking, did you use the included nub or a different one? If you used a different one, which one was it :D
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@@n8taing612Ah, thanks mate, completely missed that part!
Thanks for helping out here :)
It was the original 5mm alu-tensioner from the Begadi Neptune Chamber :)
@@rummboltthank you! Sorry if I missed it in the video, but what do you use for your own replica? I’m personally shooting 0.32g with the Neptune HopUp and 1.65J and was considering the 4UANTUM friction pro.
Have you the friction pro with the included nub? 😊
Surprise you didn't include the classic G&G green bucking
It was because i wanted to test "modern" buckings, but G&G Green is also very popular and deserves a testing actually. It would have been a great replacement for the outdated Aimtop, it even has a similar color :D But those are the things you learn after the video has gone online...thanks for commenting, have a good one!
I've got friends whove replaced those after a single game of using it. Using a G&G rotary hop, and the nub it comes with
Das Begady Fly7 habe ich in meiner Hi Capa und finde es mega. Die Kugeln fliegen kerzengerade so wie ich das möchte.
Jau da hat Begadi echt was tolles entwickelt muss ich auch sagen - es ist in meiner G36 GBB auch drin - gefällt mir ebenfalls! Guten Start ins neue Jahr, und danke für deinen Kommentar!
@@rummboltyou have the begadi fly7 in your G36? Or another begadi bucking? I copied their config with vsr5 and work very well
Silicone MR Hop that you used in NOT the same as the old good MR Hop people usually praise.
I tested the old MrHop only once some years ago, but my memory says it was indeed better than the silicone one in this Video. Maybe one day, i will make a Volume two of this comparison where the original MR. Hop is included. Thanks for your comment, have a good start to the new year!
Maybe i missed it, but what weight did you use for the RHop buckings? Because RHop only benefits heavier weights (+.36) because of the increased surface area which the BB passes through. If you were using .32 or below thats why you seeing weird results from 20m. The larger gripping surface really skews lighter BBs.
Yeah this could explain the 20m performance of the R-Hop drop-ins. I used 0.32g on all buckings, because I had to find some kind of a compromise weight. On heavier ones, some more buckings could have had problems to hop the properly - you see, BB weight actually is a variable you choose for every bucking, which you just can not cover completely in a test of this volume (12 buckings), if you want to keep it under 1 hour :D :D
Thanks for sharing your experience, have a good start to the new year!
Mich würde auch deine Erfahrungen mit den 4uad bucking interessieren bei 0,45g bbs. Ob diese gut gehopt werden und immer noch so gut Performen wie mit den 0,32g bbs im Video
Dafür müsste ich das mal in einer Airsoft mit +2J installieren, darunter machen so schwere BBs in meinen Augen wenig Sinn. Bald folgt ein Video zu meinem MTW Project Build, darin teste ich auf jeden Fall mit 0.4g, vllt auch schwerer :) LG!
Moinsen, macht der einfach mal wieder 7500 Aufrufe mit einem normalen Video. ;-) Da sieht man wieder das Englisch deutlich mehr bringt als nur Deutsch.
Sehr schönes aufwendiges Video. Das hat garantiert ewig gedauert bis alles fertig und im Kasten war.
Mach weiter so und frohes neues Jahr wünschen wir dir.
Grüß euch :) Ja, würd mich auch interessieren wie viele Klicks das Video in deutscher Sprache bekommen hätte und wie groß der Effekt durch die größere Zielgruppe tatsächlich ist. Freue mich auf jeden Fall, dass es bisher so gut ankommt! Aber ja, das war bisher das aufwändigste Projekt hier auf dem Kanal - von der Konzeption über die Bestellung der Buckings, das Aufnehmen und Analysieren der Ergebnisse bis hin zum Cutten und Bearbeiten waren das rund drei Monate.
Für euch auch ein schönes neues Jahr 2025, freue mich auf weiteren Content von euch :)
So what’s ur opinion on which on is the best for outdoor use bc I play at a outdoor field in FL
@@824.silent For outdoors and long distances, i probably would go for the Begadi Fly7 and as heavy BBs as possible :)
Thanks for your comment, have a good one!
@@rummboltthank you, you too!
great but there are also nuances, some barrels are more suitable for rubber, others less, even the same rubber can be slightly crookedly installed, which affects the trajectory, and a completely different rubber can behave differently after shooting 2-3k bbs 😮💨
Yes it's true what you say - even slight changes can have some impact. The question is: Is it possible to eliminte all variables to get a real, valid comparison? Thats because I said "you will get only tendencies" out of this video - more would not be honesst to the viewers. Thanks for your comment, have a good start to 2025!
I think you should of used the nubs recommended for each rubber some aren’t designed for concave nubs, great video nevertheless
Thank you :) The problem i saw was that some buckings did not come with a tensioner or had no specific advice on which one to use - at least as far as I know. This is why I decided for this compromise - but you're right, certain buckings would have more potential with their specific nubs! Have a good start to the new year!
Servus, mal eine frage hast du schon mal die BLOC Tactical LYNX Anti fog brille geteste. Ist eine echte brille für den scharfwaffen Bereich und ist euch preiswärt wen es nicht Beschlägt (70€) . Ein test wär da sehr cool. Werde mir auch selber die Brille holen und testen.
Grüß dich, bisher habe ich diese Brille noch nicht getestet. Aktuell stehen eine Reihe anderer Projekte an, aber wenn du magst berichte gerne mal wie das Teil sich schlägt :) Frohes Neues!
Hi Rummbolt
Can you type the name of inner barrel please i need to try this inner barrel too.
Thank in advance
Sure, here it is:
SLONG "Xtreme3" AEG / VSR Tuning barrel 363mm
Have a good one!
14:53 i also notice my bbs going to the left with the Monster bucking, id guess its normal for it?
Hmm I can not really tell, as this was the first time I tested the monster bucking. Maybe other users experienced the same?
Nice!,, where is the gbb?
It's in it's winter sleep and will be used in 2025 again ;) Have a good one!
Try Master Mod hop bucking
Thanks for the Tip, will be added to the list :)
Have a good one!
Worauf du nicht eingegangen bist, ist die These, dass gewisse Buckings erst eingeschossen werden müssen, damit sie besser funktionieren. Meinst du das stimmt bzw. ist ein relevanter Fakt?
Da hast du Recht, das habe ich nicht explizit erwähnt im Video.
Aus meiner bisherigen Erfahrung macht sich ein Einschießen, wie es einige Shops empfehlen, kaum bis gar nicht bemerkbar.
Gefühlt schießen meine Replicas auch nach mehreren 1000 Schuss genau wie am Anfang. Auch mit unterschiedlichen Buckings.
Einige sagen, es braucht ein paar 100 Schuss, andere sprechen von 1000... habe das bisher so nicht bestätigen können. Vielleicht trifft es auch nur auf einige Hersteller zu.
Aber wenn wir uns z.b. das 4uad bucking ansehen, das brandneu in die Waffe kam - viel besser kann es eigentlich nicht werden.
Ob die "schlechteren" Buckings jetzt noch besser würden mit der Zeit kann ich leider nicht sagen, das hätte auch der Test leider zeitlich nicht hergegeben.
Aber vielen Dank dass du es angemerkt hast, ist auf jeden Fall wichtig noch mal nachträglich was dazu zu sagen.
Schönen Abend dir und guten Rutsch ins neue Jahr!
4uan bucking hat wie lange gedauert bis es von taiwan in de war ? Ganz grob ? 2 wochen ?
Ich habe meine 4uad-Buckings bei Copper and Brass direkt in Deutschland bestellt. War alles in wenigen Tagen bei mir :)
What length is the opening on that barrel window, as the begadi mag7 inner patch is 7mm that window doesn't look 7mm.
It must be like about 6.9mm or something - the patches fit like 100%, no space left at all. While the 7mm aluminium tensioner did not fit but it was veeeeery close. Otherwise, i would have used this one.
@rummbolt To get a proper result with the begadi mag7 I would have opened the window slightly over 7mm and used the 7mm nub.
Why did you use the mag7 instead of the mag5, as most of the inner patches on the other brands are between 4mm/4.5mm/5mm width and length.
For the alst two years I have blindly sed to everyone who asked me which bucking tu buy to just gett ML Super macaron. Now I feel licke I have fooled doesends of good people into mediocracy
Haha, noo noo, the super-macaron is a solid bucking, and some of the "better" buckings (at least spoken from the results of this particular test) also have been released years later. If you ask me, the Super Macaron still is a very solid allrounder! But there are more advanced options available nowadays - not to speak about the question of the individual setup, in some builds, the ML buckings maybe really perfom best :)
Have a good start to 2025, thanks for commenting!
I migliori sono PSIONIC e non li hai 😂😂😂
Hm, I have not been aware of this bucking at all and just checked it up. Looks like it is a classic R-Hop dropin bucking, right? Wrote it on my list of buckings to test. Have a good start to the new year! Thanks for commenting!
Die Buckings solle man erstmal mit 1000 Schiuss ca einschießen. Dann perforemen die teilweise ganz anders :-) Der Test ist ne gute Sache, weißt aber sehr viele Fehler auf, die zu falschen Ergebnissen führen.
@@CashBricks Hallo und danke für deinen Kommentar.
Die Angabe mit dem Einschießen findet sich nur bei einigen Herstellern, und auch dann variiert die Zahl der benötigten Schüsse stark. Begadi bspw. spricht von 200 bis 400, bei anderen sind es mehr.
Meiner persönlichen Erfahrung nach tut sich durch das Einschießen nicht mehr sonderlich viel. Ich habe in den letzten 8 Jahren dutzende Buckings verbaut, und wenn ich nach einiger Zeit eine Veränderung der Bucking-Qualität festgestellt habe, war diese eher negativ als positiv.
Um dem trotzdem gerecht zu werden , auch weil ich wusste dass User dazu kommentieren würden, habe ich immerhin ein 150bb Magazin pro Bucking durchgeschossen.
Sowohl Begadi als auch andere Hersteller mit denen ich Kontakt habe, hatten an diesem Punkt nichts auszusetzen.
Welche Fehler sind dir ansonsten aufgefallen?
@@rummbolt also buckings sind wirklich cent artikel in der produktion. nen freund, dem der skirmshop gehört hat mir mal bei nem Besuch in Japan bei Mapel Leaf nen paar videos von der produktion ect geschickt als die autobots und decepticon buckings raus kamen. Da sind immer wieder leichte unterschiede zwischen einzelnen buckings. Daher sollte man für einen aussagekräftigen Test immer mindesten 2-3 Buckings nutzen. Dann haast du keine Borecam genutzt um zu checken ob die Buckings alle immer 100% sauberverbaut wurden sondern dich auf deine Erfahrung verlassen. Dann wurden die Tests outdoor durchgeführt und nicht indoor in einer homogenen Umgebung. Wenn du aus NRW kommst können wir dir gerne unser Spielfeld für solche Tests anbieten. wir haben hallen die über 100M lang sind :-) Wir spannen die Waffen zum Beispiel anständig auf der Shooting Range ein, so dass jeder Aufbau exakt gleich ist.
Ich finde es super, dass du dir so viel Mühle gemacht hast, aber wissenschaftlich gesehen hat das Video keine wirkliche Aussagekraft auf Grunde dieser Ungenauigkeiten. Also quasi viel Arbeit für RND Ergebnisse.
Okay und welche Buckings empfehlst du? Was is bei deinen Tests herausgekommen? Poste doch mal deine Ergebnisse oder mach ein Video dazu
@@W0LKO Hm, also die Ergebnisse stehen eigentlich am Ende des Videos tabellarisch zusammengefasst :) Gewonnen hat das 4uantum Friction Pro Bucking, dicht gefolgt von den beiden Begadi Buckings :)