Rogue Fitness Monster LT-1 50 Cal Trolley & Lever Arm Kit Short Arm Overview
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- Опубликовано: 27 фев 2021
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Thanks dude! This was really helpful. Going with the short versions. I like how you incorporated the different attachments with one arm. Exactly what I needed to see. Thanks again.
Not a problem!! Glad I was able to help!!!
great video on showing the versatility of the arms!
Thank you!!! There are obviously SO many more movements that can be done.... only limited by your imagination they say!!! Lol
Probably the most versatile accessory to a power rack! You will never miss variety and machine options a gym has! In fact probably better as you can set them & your bench up however you want, whatever angle you want them to be.
Wholeheartedly agree with ya!!! I was initially turned off by their cost...but after sucking it up/taking the plunge...I feel they are worth ever penny!!! They open up so many more doors!!!
Nice demonstration of the lever arms, definitely going for the shorter arms now
Awesome! Glad I could help!! Thanks for watching!!
Looking to buy a Rogue rack soon. I find that your videos have answered several questions that I have about the rack and accessories, especially the lever arms. Thanks!
Awesome... what I like to hear!!! Thanks for watching!!
Awesome JOB! Great Vid. I watch a lot of the review and demo vids (Coop, Brandon, etc...). You're content, quality and editing match if not exceed what they do. Looking forward to the weekly uploads and I am definitely subscribed and have the "All" notifications selected. Well Done!
Thanks man!!! Really appreciate the kind words!!! ....I'm no where near the same level of Coop or Brandon... those guys are the KINGS!!!! ....LOL... But I appreciate you saying it!!! Hopefully I'll continue to improve! Thanks again!
Damn, that's a good point about the short vs longer arms, didn't even think about that. Thank you for that, going with the shorter
Thank you!...Glad I could help!!
Awesome review
Thank you!!
Awesome review! I use my arms the same like you do!
Glad you enjoyed!!! I love them!!
Very solid 💪💪💪
Thanks man...put a lot of work into this one..... not that I don't put much into the others or anything...lol
@@MattPendergraph it showed...great job 👊
Thank you!
😎... very helpful. Thank one for sharing.
Glad you found it useful!..Thank you!
@@MattPendergraph You're welcome. 🙂
Best demo and varied use of lever arms I have EVER seen. Rogue should pay you commission on those arms!
Appreciate that! Glad you liked it!
Favorite new RUclips personality. Great content and go Emma’s mouth!
Lol....I loved this comment!!!! Cracked me up!! I appreciate it..glad you enjoyed!!!!
@@MattPendergraph Long time subscriber here, keep up the great content!
@@clb121781 I appreciate it!!! I will certainly try my best!!!
You're strong on bench bro 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks...I try...lol... working towards that 315lb working set!!! I'll have it in a few months hopefully!
thank you, this was an excellent review. the rogue bracket I saw when you were doing the belt squats, I cant seem to find that in their site,
Thank you!!! The belt squat in this video consists of a weight plate storage bin and a monster shackle.. hopefully this helps!... check out my other videos for even more lever arm setups!
This video has sold me on the lever arms. Rogue owes you commission.
😂😂!!! I appreciate that!! You're gonna love them!! Be sure to watch my other two lever arm videos as well for other ideas on what you can do with them!
Bravo! Again, where was this when I was working out yesterday. I needed this video in my home gym life. I still think you need to buy the longer trolley arms mount them on the outside and do a real true side by side comparison. Again, for science. You doing belt squats on the edge of the platform gives me an idea for my less attractive longer trolley arms. I really need to start incorporating them into my workouts. They are just window dressing right now. Btw, I picked up some 3D printed plastic end caps for the spotter arms from Aperture Engineering (as well as for my j-cups). They work great and maybe some food for thought for you as well to purchase some.
Lol... sorry I waited so late to publish!!! Lol...I would LOVE to have another set to mount on the front (for science if course..lol)... maybe one day......as far as the 3D plastic ends... they look fantastic!!!... would definitely solve the issue for those in need!!! ...plus they look legit as well... almost factory!
Glad you enjoyed the vid!!! You should totally rig up a less attractive longer belt squat BTW!!!
@@MattPendergraph apology accepted. I can't stay mad at you. Let's just not let it happen again. Yeah the 3D plastic ends really work great. Help protect the bar from rubbing metal on metal. Wish there was a way I could have you use my longer trolley arms for a side by side comparison. Maybe I could help with content if you ever need it. Record them in my gym then send the recordings your way. We can always talk more offline if interested.
@@garyjouvelakas2475 lol...you crack me up guy!!!... seriously... could come up with something in the future for sure!!!
I go back and forth on if I should buy these or not. I don't use my REP ones b/c they are a pain to adjust and just seem to get in the way when not in use. We'll see...
I can see that... I like the looks of REP's....just wasn't sold on how they're adjusted.... sliding on plastic pads...no rollers.....I dunno....lol... plus the lack of any kind of built in pin to hold it in place while adjusting (having to insert a pin while holding up the arm just doesn't sound fun!!!! Lol)....I get it...they are quite a bit cheaper, which is a huge plus!!.....just seems like they sacrificed all the important stuff just to get the price down.
@@MattPendergraph Hey Matt! I'm going back and forth on these as well. I really appreciate your video. I do have a question for you: Where do the short arms "fall short"? I am looking at getting these to replace a hammer strength on chest press (various angles), overhead press, and chest supported two-arm rows (various angles). I am worried the short will be on too tight of an axis, especially for the rows. Could you share your thoughts on how the short arms perform on these?
@@PaulRosberg Thanks for watching/glad you enjoyed it! As far as the short arms being too short for those movements....I personally don't think they are (I know exactly what you mean BTW with your question...lol...as it's something I considered myself before purchasing!) Keep in mind...the arms are 35 inches long, which really isn't all that short (obviously they are "short" compared to the long arms, but on their own, I find them to be the perfect length. Much more manageable IMO vs the long arms). I use mine for all the movements you listed and more and have never once thought they felt unnatural/wished I had more length...Hopefully that helps ya out!
@@MattPendergraph That helps me a lot. Time to purchase me some short arms. Thank you!
@@PaulRosberg No problem at all!!! You also have the advantage of picking up their new 2.0 system (which is supposed to make installation/adjusting SO MUCH EASIER!!!) Which will be awesome!! Let me know how ya like them when they arrive!! (Wish I had a promo code or something to give you to further help out due to how expensive they are..lol.. unfortunately my affiliate link (if used) doesn't save you any money...😞)
I got the longer arms mainly to perform deadlifts and belt squats outside the rack. The shorter arms do look nice though. Nice video overall, definitely subscribed.
Thank you for subscribing!!! There are definitely pros and cons to both lengths... really depends on each person's individual needs. I prefer short, but wouldn't turn down a pair of longer arms though!! Lol
Love your stuff dude. Off topic ?, what type of camera are you using?
I got the trolley system and rack coming soon, can’t wait. Do you have 90 or 100 “ rack ?
Thank you!! I've been enjoying creating it!?? My camera is nothing special....Canon Crop Sensor DSLR...the key is lighting!!! The best cameras in the world look bad if the lighting is poor!!
I have a 90"...I'm 5'11"... so this one is more than tall enough for me!
Thank you for this video! Great overall production and style. One question - could you use them inside the rack with the safety straps instead of the arms?
Thank you so much...I try my best!!! Lol...to answer your question...you can use safety straps...I actually quickly show it in the video....I don't personally prefer using them.. but they do work
@@MattPendergraph Thank you! I watched it again and saw it. It should work fine for me too then. That's my setup. By the way which length straps are you using?
@@agentsmith64 I just use the standard monster straps for the RM-6.
Hi Matt,
I've really enjoyed your videos so far. I too have an RM-6 an d am planning on buying the shorter lever arms after your review. I also saw your set up to rig this to do lever arms leg presses. Before I place an order, is there anything else you'd suggest I get....i.e. get a 43" cross beam so you can push them up with your feet etc.?
Awesome!! I appreciate you watching my vids/glad you're enjoying them!! To answer your question, yes! I HIGHLY recommend an extra 43" bottom crossmember for various lever arm movements as well as two extra weight pins as well if you don't already have them (you'll need something to hold the weights unless you plan on using the handles themselves). Other than that...anything else I would suggest could be potential pickups in the future such as: Monster clevis pins so you can quickly attach/detach the crossmember instead of using bolts and two leg rollers so you can perform the lever arm hack squat if you're interested in that.
Great video! The exercise demo was excellent! I just got a RM-3 with the short lever arms. I love what you did with the front squats, Lat pull downs and the belt squat. Can you explain how you DIY’d that? Did you use the slinger for Lat pull downs?
Thank you!!! I did utilize the slinger! ... I'm actually working on a tutorial video...do you have instagram? If so... look me up... posted quite a bit about each setup on there. Thanks again for watching!!!
I definitely will. Thanks for the response.
@@strongg3nes400 you're welcome!
@@MattPendergraphthat was going to be my question, too, Matt. Great video. As versatile as any I’ve seen with the jammer arms, especially the short ones. Heck, there were probably even one or two more you could have added. Some hate on these with rescue t to their utility. You proved them wrong. Again, nice job. I will check you vids out on instagram.
@@paulcasilio1119 Thank you, glad you enjoyed it! I couldn't agree more! If you've got the time/patience you're really only limited by your imagination as far as what all these things can do!
Great video. This is literally the exact issue I’m having. I really can’t make up my mind. If you have the short arms is there any reason to use them on the outside? Can you do power cleans, the side clean (in the rogue promotional video), etc? How is it as a monolift? Is there anything you feel your missing or would be better with the longer arms? Also, I ordered the safety arms but if I already have the safety straps is this even necessary?
Please help haha!
Thank you! Hopefully I can help ya out!!...lol...me personally....I see no reason to use them on the outside of the rack (if I were going to do that, I would have gotten the longer for sure only because they would have to rest on safety spotter arms either way...which as I state in the video..I'm not at all a fan of!!!)...I've found that I can use them in the rack for all my needs/no issues at all...really the only thing I feel I'm missing out on is lever arm belt squats (you can't really do them the way I show in the video while they are on the inside of the rack due to the rack upright behind you gets in the way!)....that being said...I knew that going in and it wasn't reason enough to keep me from going with the shorter over the longer arms....as far as power cleans/side cleans...any of those type movements...if you are mounting them in an RM-4 or 6 ...you have PLENTY of room inside the rack to do any large movement like that without the worry of hitting anything at all...and unless you are crazy tall, you aren't going to press the arms high enough to hit the top cross members of the rack!!! lol.....as far as safeties...I prefer my rigid flip down safeties over straps only because I know 100% that once I put them in place, they aren't moving up or down/side to side....with straps...you could possibly run the risk of the strap shifting to the side on ya (shouldn't make a difference thought since the weight pin of the handle or the handle itself will catch the lever arm if the strap shifts...but something to think about).....hopefully this helps!!!
Great in-depth video. I am limited on space so adding a FT is out. I am working with a RM-4 but I would have to Mount inside with the 35’s do you think I could get the most out of the arms mounted inside?
I want them for shoulder press and incline movements.
Also have you used the articulating arms for this at all?
I have been staring at these in my cart for days so about to order or delete 😂
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it! I wouldn't have mine mounted anywhere else TBH. The fact that you can set them at various heights by using your straps, flip downs, or safety arms is enough for me to say inside is the ONLY way to go! Lol, not to mention that they can be used as makeshift monolifts the rest of the time.
As far as the articulating handles, I'd say to skip them! I have them and absolutely hate using them for several reasons! The idea is great, but the execution isn't IMO. They're cumbersome and flop around into your rack if you aren't careful man!
Hopefully that helps! Let me know if you have any other questions. Also... consider using my affiliate link if you do decide to make a purchase! Thanks either way!
@@MattPendergraph I will for sure use your link and thanks for responding so quickly. Best
@@jasonali4938 Anytime! I appreciate ya!
Great review. Already ordered mine. How does the squat feel like? not sure if the angle makes sense. since you hace to order a crossmember and maybe a couple roller pads, is it worth it?
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed! The beauty of the squat I rigged up is that you can completely change the angle to suit your needs simply by moving the trolleys up or down the upright!!! I'm definitely replacing the two weight posts I used on my shoulders with roller pads (I currently only have 1...so I had to improvise...lol)...I like it so much it'll become a go to for me on leg day for sure!!!
I like your belt squat setup, once mounted inside the rack do you think it’d be possible to do them there? I imagine you have to be creative with the bottom crossmember. Also any issues using your j cups on them for your other lifts like benching, squats, etc. thanks man! Appreciate your content
Thanks man!!! I'm a fan as well....as far as mounting it inside the rack/performing the movement...it doesn't real work on account of your butt basically rides up and the down the upright behind you!! lol..HOWEVER...check out my other trolley arm video where I show my work around which allows you to perform belt squats within the rack!!! Using the J cups with the arms is LEGIT...feels great IMO (not exactly like a monolift obviously...but pretty dang close)..definitely give it a try if able...I think you'll be a fan as well! Thanks for the support!!! I appreciate it! I'll soon return to regularly releasing content here on youtube..so stay tuned!
Thank you! I’ll check it out. I just received my trolley arms. Question for you, I am finding I need to balance some side by side play to have fluidity in movement of the trolley up/down the rack. Is this normal? And which one is preferable to have more of? A bit of side to side motion or more difficult to move up/down trolley? Thanks again!
Great video. I may have missed it, but how did you connect both the arms to do the front squats? Thanks
Thank you!..Glad you enjoyed!...I used a bottom monster crossmember to connect the arms together....used bolts and monster knurled knobs to hold it the arms.
Amazing!!!! Ive ordered mine because of you!!
Question, with having trolley arms I will not need plate load attach for my slinger correct?
Does the cable rub?? Or is it lined up properly?
Thanks a million , great vid
Awesome!!! Glad I could help!!! Me personally...I would skip the plate loaded attachment all together if you have the shorter arms inside the rack....it's far easier/quicker to set up and feels great!! As far as any rubbing...mine doesn't rub at all with how I set it up.... although...I could see it rubbing if you try and get too crazy with the trolley angles (which isn't practical anyways)...I'm actually releasing a video showing the whole setup this Sunday...so be in the lookout for it!
Awaiting patiently lol, looks to be very smooth
Im surprised rogue never came up with this idea
@@wranglernator I know right??!!!....lol...it really is extremely smooth... you won't be disappointed!!!
Great video. I owm a Rogue SM-1 Monster squat stand. Would you use the shorter arms on a squat stand?
Thank you!! Me personally.... absolutely I would!!... although stable enough for it's intended purpose...a squat stand obviously isn't as stable as a full power rack....in my opinion...the longer the arm, the greater chance you have of potentially tipping the stand....I could be totally wrong...but shorter arms would make the most sense in your case I would imagine!
Nice review but I got to ask, does the attachment create wear on the up rights itself? If so can you do a follow up video. TIA
Thank you!! So far I haven't noticed any sort of wear....not to say that over time it won't start to show however....the rollers themselves are plastic (dense/sturdy/high quality...but plastic none the less)...so I would imagine...or at least hope they wear out before they wear on my uprights....I honestly haven't had the lever arm system long enough to definitively answer though one way or the other
where did you get that bar @8:07 for the sqaut? You got me convinced me to get shorter but I also need that squat attachment bar!
ruclips.net/video/0SlUuQkE2D4/видео.html ...I actually rigged it up using a crossmember and two leg rollers from Rogue. Check out my video on it.
Matt, have you tried doing dips while the lever arms are resting on your safety straps? Does that work?
I have! It's a little wide for my preference, but it does work!
At 8:20 where you were doing squat. Where did you buy the squat attachment?
ruclips.net/video/0SlUuQkE2D4/видео.html Check this vid out as it explains everything
What kind of pulley system did you hook up to the arm trolly?! That’s exactly what I’ve been looking for!
The Rogue Slinger
www.roguefitness.com/rogue-monster-slinger?a_aid=6115420e19fbf
Okay now I want to get this 🤣
Do it!! 😂. Rogue has since released a 2.0 version that's supposed to be even nicer/easier to install and adjust!
How u doing bro? I was looking to one of ur videos earlier today about a trolley with pegs where you can load plates and use it as a lat pull down and other exercises. The uprigjt attachment moves up and down. I can't find the video
I'm great! Thanks for asking! Hope the same for you as well! Looks like you found what you were looking for (the Glyder), lol
Where did you get the set up for the squat set up, with the shoulder pads? Or what did you use to make it?
DIY!!...lol... make sure you watch my next youtube video... because that's exactly what I'm going over in it!!... check out my instagram too if you have it...I show close up photos
Hi Matt. At 8:08 of the video - is that a custom made crossmember with the bars for your shoulders or can that be purchased? Great tutorial!
Nothing custom, I'm just using an extra Rogue 43" bottom crossmember I had. They can be purchased on Rogue's website.
Thank you Matt. Gretly appreciate the info.@@MattPendergraph
@@wildrabbit8724 You're welcome, anytime!
Hi again Matt. I have a Monster Lite rack and I have put together the same setup you have but I use the safety spotter arms under the lever arms. The problem I am having is the starting point. Any tips or hacks/ideas for a starting point that is not the base of the front squat. It is difficult to get out of the bottom of the squat with any significant weight on the arms when starting the movement. Any thoughts you have on this would be greatly appreciated.@@MattPendergraph
Does appear the arms can be cut and just replace the plastic cap on the handle end. Is this correct? 😂🤣
I was just about to end video then I felt like I should stick around for any further late breaking Emma updates.
Haha
One more question on the arm length. While I do get that with the shorter arms you can mount them inside the rack; do you really find yourself moving them in and out of it? Most people that I've talked to, they all said they keep the inside free and pretty much have them permanently on the outside.
Me personally...I leave them mounted in the inside....I'll either utilize them when I need to or I'll drop them to the bottom out of my way or attach the end up the arms to the top crossmember to get them out of the way....I just find everything is easier for me as far as setting up/getting into position if I use them solely on the inside and use my flip downs as rests
wow i was just about to buy this rack with the intent to mount the arms on the outside of the rack, but now all that has changed. What pulley system were you using there?
Lol...yep...I genuinely feel as though the shorter arms on the inside make the most sense!!! Watch a few more of my videos for further convincing!!! Lol..I'm using the Rogue Slinger
For the squats have you considered any means to make the connection between the lever arms removable but at the same time you can attach the shoulder support horns (or leg rollers alternatively)? Would attaching the flip down safety as a means to connect the two lever arms work instead? The flip down will also allow attaching the horns/leg-rollers.
Using a flip down safeties in place of the crossmember would be the perfect solution...it would quickly attach, already has UHMW plastic to protect all points of contact, it's plenty strong enough, and most importantly...serves multiple purposes!....unfortunately however....it doesn't work...lol...trust me, I tried before ordering another crossmember. The issue with using a flip down is there are no vertical holes...the holes only go through the sides, which don't work (the shoulder pads would point up instead of outward like you need)...the only quick attach solution I could see working properly would be the Rogue Bench Prop (it easily attaches and has the 4 way hole pattern)...I considered this option, but ultimately the price didn't make sense considering it's over twice the cost of a single crossmember!...until Rogue decides to come up with their own LEGIT version...I recommend setting it up as I have it and using Monster Knurled Knobs to make all the connections quicker.
@@MattPendergraph Makes sense. The bench prop is expensive just to use for this and the crossmembers seem like the better way to go. UHMW tape or some padding on the insides to avoid scratches as well.
@@AshwinGururagh I agree... check out my latest video if you haven't already!! You'll like it!! Lol
How u doing g brotha?brother?? Its been a while. Hey do u still recomend the functional trainner over the leverage arms? I sold my prx rack and Valor lat pull down machine and some other equipment so iam looking for stuff to buy...I was looking at the rhino belt squat plus rack and it looks like I can do tons of exercises with it besides belt squats I can even add a slinger to do lat pull downs too. Anyways even thinking everyday what to buy..ether the rhino belt squat plus rack or rep fitness with ares or one of thoes all in one functio al trainners like brute force and it comes with leverage arms, weight stack, smith machine, cable system. etc...etc..they are all close to same price about $4000.
I know it's my decision but if you were in my shoes what would you prefer. I habe 2 lower buldging disk in my lower back so belt squats will be cool I guess. I know rep has a belt squat attachment too. Anyways iam looking for the one that is more versatile
Hey man! It has been a while! lol. I'm great, hope the same to you! Yeah, I 100% recommend going with a functional trainer over lever arms! I RARELY use my lever arms nowadays, where as I use my FT several times a week. IMO, a FT is so much more versatile. I really like the idea of the REP Ares, but I'd be worried about all the cabling everywhere and the actual size of the rack itself (looks extremely cramped to me). As far as a rack/rhino combo. I have/use a rhino for belt squats and absolutely love it as I too have lower back issues (sciatica). It's honestly a tough decision man!! lol
Would you prefer the regular handles over the articulate handles?
Absolutely! The regular are far more versatile IMO and less of a pain to use (the articulating handles flop around WAY TOO MUCH and aren't fun getting into position.....not to mention the fact that they are more expensive)
What pulley are you using and how do you attach to the top of the rack when doing the lat pull down?
And just wondering if you have come up with a way to extend the cable to do low row with it.
Thanks
If you have instagram... check out my page..I actually have several vids/photos showing everything from low rows to bicep curls using this setup....I'm using the Monster Slinger...I've actually rigged up a lower pulley/cable extension to allow for lower movements as well... just didn't show it on here
Ask him to do a Vid on the Rogue Stringer and how he combined that with the arms to create a sweet pull down and low row set up! He has a brief one and a few on IG.
I’d like to hear about you pulley system as well but I don’t have Instagram. Can you share the information here? I was super excited to see you use the lever arm that way. Great video!
@@darrylthornton5377 Thank you!!!....the video I'm releasing this Sunday goes over the complete setup from start to finish!!...so definitely check it out!!
Matt do you have a setup for doing leg press ?
dang..sorry I'm just now seeing this!!! lol
Hey Matt, have you ever tried using the pulley with the arm on the outside of the rack and you on the inside or would that not be possible?
Sorry for the late response!! I haven't personally rigged mine up on the outside that way, but I have rigged mine up on the inside using a Surplus Strength pulley! Basically the same setup, just on the inside (check out my Surplus Strength review to see what I'm talking about)
@@MattPendergraph no problem Matt, as always appreciate your time and content!
@@bigbodybenlifting5737 Thank you man!! I've just been so busy lately and have trying to get back into the swing of regularly uploading (figured I'd take a minute to catch up on missed comments!!!) Appreciate you/your support!
Hey what’s up Matt? I have a quick question. Could you use the safety straps to connect to the front upright and the underside of the lever arm to create a bottom position without damaging the finish on the arms? Kind of like using a chain? I am purchasing the short arms and will be using them on the outside of the rack, but I would like to avoid damaging the finish from the 24 inch safety spotter arms if possible. When I get my rack I think I’m going to try this with hitch pins purchased from Home Depot rather than the screws for easy adjustment. Thanks!
Hey Jeff! I'm not sure why you couldn't use straps and be perfectly fine! The only damage I foresee happening would be to the holes on the arms themselves as it'll be metal on metal contact. The actual bracket that holds the straps has UHMW on the inside (all three sides) therefore you shouldn't experience any damage to the outside of the arms (or at least I wouldn't think you would). Good question man! Let me know if you try it and how it works out for you!! Also keep my affiliate link in mind if you do purchase the lever arms if ya don't mind. I appreciate you reaching out!
Thanks for the quick reply! I would have but I already purchased the thing a couple of weeks ago, still waiting on the shipment! When I purchase the crossmember and other accessories I’m planning on getting I’ll def use your link!
@@jeffwalker1830 You're welcome! No worries at all man! I'm just glad to help ya out! I appreciate ya and let me know how you like them when they ship/arrive!
@@MattPendergraph I will, thanks! I ordered the rhino, RM-3, and lever arms. I’m basically making a modified Coopsquat and I can’t wait to get this thing in and set it up. I’m going to get a surplus strength ups high pulley as well. One more question. Could you use the handles from the lever arms to do dips on the safety spotter arms? Are they the right width apart? I would love to have an assisted dip on the outside and a weighted dip on the inside over the rhino. Thanks again!
So do u still think these rogue leverage arms still worth it? Been reading and people been telling mixed reviwes about these arms more negatives than positives...if you had to chose between powertec multipress, inspire functional trainner and the rogue arms which ones will u get???
Assuming you have the equipment I have, prx rack, Valor lat pull down machine, Titan cable tower v3, echo rogue bike, powerblock dumbells and many, many more functional trainning equipment.
It really depends on your creativity and the amount of time you have to play around with them. I don't use mine as often as I'd like due to time constraints, but I enjoy the versatility they provide when I do have time though! If I had to choose between the arms and a functional trainer....I'd 100% go with a functional trainer!
@@MattPendergraph thank u
How much does each arm weigh? I want to buy a pair for my RML 390F but worried it'll be too front heavy since its not bolted down.
They're about the weight of a crossmember (slightly less as they don't have the flat mounting plates welded on the ends). That being said....once you add on the handles and weight, they increase pretty substantially!! I'd almost advice you NOT to do it as you are correct, it will more than likely be to front heavy and risk falling forward!! You can of course add weight to the rear of the rack to help offset the front?
Where did you get the additional pieces to do the squats, both belt and front, as well as for the pull downs?
I'm actually releasing a video specifically answering the pull-down set up questions this Sunday...as far as everything I used...it can all be found on Rogues website.... check out my instagram if you have it (I show close up pics if everything on there)
@@MattPendergraph thanks!
@@bradchattergoon1 no problem!
Do them work with the Rep 5000?
they will, you'll just have to adjust the rollers to make them fit tighter in order to take up the slack due to the PR-5000 uprights aren't true 3x3
Are these compatible with the rep 4000 power rack?
In theory, the monster lite trolley/lever arms should work on a REP 4000 rack...You'll probably end up having to adjust the trolley rollers to take out the slop you'll inevitably have (since REPs 3x3 isn't truly 3x3)...but it's easy enough to do and should eliminate any/all play
Was the V squat a standard crossmember?
Yep, 43" bottom crossmember.
thanks for the review. The shorter arms are a better option. But, teh longer arms will not twist the metal upright. First, they are mounted into a hole with some give. Second, the upright is thick. Third, the trolley system has stylometric inserts that prevent wear or metal-on-metal contact.
Still, the shorter ones are a better choice just because they are easier to move and cm go inside or outside the rack.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it! Yeah, I guess I'm just an overthinker (if you couldn't already tell lol). Anyways, what you're saying makes sense no doubt, I appreciate your insight!
your hands must be of the same thickness dimensions to be able to use them
first level up with arms size)
Add chains to hold the jammer and you have 30+ new movements from them
Nice hack for sure!
Do you have V1 or V2? On the Rogue site it says V2 has numbers on the arms.
I have the 1st Gen arms/trolleys
@@MattPendergraph Thanks! I was looking at buying a V1 (used), but Rogue only sells V2 35" arms and not sure V2 arms will work on V1.
Is easy to place the arms and remove them after you finish the training in case you want use different implements ????
It's easy, but time consuming! I wouldn't want to have to do it/suggest that anyone do it simply because it's not practical IMO.
@@MattPendergraph ok got you thank you for responding 🙏🙏🙏
@@gmm7145 no problem!!
Great video! I just received 4 out of the 5 boxes. I’m still waiting on the 35” arms. Does the one inch rod and screws come packaged with the arms? I didn’t see them in the other boxes. And there wasn’t any instructions. Thank you again for the great video!
Thank you!!!..I appreciate you watching!....the good news for you is YES!...the 1 inch rod and allen head screws will come attached to your lever arms...so If you haven't received those yet...that's where they'll be!...lol
@@MattPendergraph thank you! I can’t wait to get them. I’m also waiting on my RM4. It’s taking forever because it has to ship freight. I went with the 108”.
@@jakes5504 Oh I bet!!!!...108!!!!! Dang!!!! You must have so crazy tall ceilings!!! Lol.... that's freakin awesome!!!
@@MattPendergraph yes sir. My wife and I got lucky and built a 20x15 gym addition with 10’ walls off the back of our garage about 3 months before COVID hit. We had a titan rack and some other cheaper stuff. But we just upgraded to the RM4 and purchased the functional cable column and jsqaut with low bridge from Sorinex. We received the Sorinex equipment already. It is unbelievable! Just waiting on the rack Rogue!
Love it but I think I was saying before lol.. Make a video on adjusting them.. The set screws in the back! Lol
I thought about including that portion but I was already almost creeping into 11 mins...lol... figured I needed to cut back on a few details...I'll make sure to do some sort of follow vid and specifically include that though!!
@@MattPendergraph ya bro trust me make a quick snappy video.. Because these things are a nightmare on adjusting to be honest
@@keeblar209 oh I know!!! Lol...I think I figured out the best way to go about it too....so I really need to share my method!!!
I’m between short vs long. My rack deph is 30’ and height 93” (RML 390 F) so no matter what they will be on the outside. I am 5ft and really want to use these as belt squats. Do you think the longer ones are best for this movement? Or will the shorter ones get the job. Done just as well?
Me personally....I feel like the longer arms are just too long in general!!..I feel like moving them around will be a pain due to their length/additional weight...as far as using them for belt squats...I really don't think it'll make a difference which way you go (I'm hoping you seen my short lever arm vid where I actually show myself using one of my arms on the outside in the belt squat set up...if not...go watch it and you'll see that It works great/allows me to hit proper depth no problem).....all that being said....a lot of people have the longer arms and have no issues with their length...it'll really come down to personal preference!!...hopefully this helped ya out..lol
@@MattPendergraph is the 1k price tag worth it? When most movements can be done with DB and bar
I ask b/c IVe been going back and forth with purchasing them :/
@@drsoftballcatcher18 lol... while I wish they were cheaper..... like... several hundred dollars cheaper!!.. 😂....to me, these are worth having simply because of what you can do with them beyond normal barbell/dumbbell movements..(leg pressing, hack squat, belt squat, pull down movements, etc)...they offer so much more versatility!!...as far as their build/functionality...all top notch!!....it really comes down to the person, their budget, how much they want to invest, etc.... obviously I felt they were worth it, and after owning/using them....I would easily spend the $1000 again!
@@drsoftballcatcher18 understandable....a thousand isn't a little bit of money....I debated for MONTHS myself!! ...if that helps..lol
Does doing deadlifts inside the rack allow you full range of motion?
I'm 5',11" and can...you can always stand on something if you're taller or prefer to go deeper though
@@MattPendergraph is it hard moving them from inside to out if needed to?
@@bigbodybenlifting5737 it's not ideal...lol...not hard by any means...just not practical since you'll have to detach the arm and remove two rollers....then reassemble it
@@MattPendergraph appreciate the response! Great video!
@@bigbodybenlifting5737 No problem, anytime!! Thanks for watching...I'll keep them coming!!!
Good review. Can my monster RM-3 rack 24” handle the short 35” arms not bolted down? I don’t lift heavy weights. Would the MONSTER HALF RACK FOOT help ? Or not be needed ? . I need to save as much floor space as possible. Thanks
Thank you! Is your rack weighted down in the rear at all? If so....I'd say you'd probably be ok not bolting it down... especially if not lifting heavy....that being said.... you'll be much safer with the half rack feet installed....if it were me though, I'd definitely install them just for the piece of mind they'll provide alone!!!!
@@MattPendergraph Thanks for replying. Is your rack bolted down ? It doesn’t look it. Those Half Rack Legs are so long 30” that they would stick out. What about the Monster mini feet ?
@@rambojohn7118 mine isn't bolted down... definitely no need due to the amount of weight on it and space it's spread over....lol... The mini feet would for sure be better than nothing...I believe they're what?..12, 13 inches?.... you'd obviously be safer going with the actual half rack feet, but you're right...30 inches is pretty freakin lengthy!! Lol
@@MattPendergraph Yes I know those Half Rack Feet are So Long ! Using them would defeat my purpose of saving space unless is there a way to attach them so I can quickly and easily use them and attach and than detach them from the rack when not using the Arms?
@@rambojohn7118 yeah....I thought of that earlier...too bad they are designed in a way that they wrap around the sides of the upright to attach (like the matador, slinger, solo pulley, etc)...than you'd be able to attach/detach with a detent pin when needed!!!...you honestly might be okay just going with the mini feet on the front...I'd just make sure you have plenty of weight on the rear of the rack....you definitely don't want that thing tipping forward on ya man!!!
Anything you can’t do with the shorter ones, that would work better with longer ones? (I know you’re always thinking of ideas so I’m sure there’s something you’ve come up with)
If you noticed...I had the belt squat set up on the outside of the rack....that particular setup doesn't work too great inside...... basically the upright is in the way/your butt drags on it!! ... that being said....I've got a work around in mind that I'm gonna try soon!..lol..... other than that though....I haven't found anything else that I'll be doing and won't be able to inside the rack!!!
@@MattPendergraph interesting! The only think I can think of that would be better is some of the more dynamic stuff like doing snatch style movements, especially with the articulating handles (which are way overpriced IMO)
@@gregors00 I could see that... while you can inside... probably would be more suited outside for piece of mind...less likely to whack your elbow/arm on an upright or something stupid like that!!! Lol.....I'm on the fence for that exact reason with the articulating handles!!!! I want a pair...but DANG!!! half the price of the whole trolley/lever arm kit!!!!
@@MattPendergraph they do look real nice plus you can write them off on tax for the channel, plus you wouldn’t want to run out of things to review! (Feel free to use all these excuses on the wife hahah
@@gregors00 haha!!!!... it's like you know me!!!.. Lol.... I've thought about/used these exact excuses!!!!!
Anyone know if these rogue trolley arms will fit the rep fitness pr 5000 rack? I know the dimensions are a tad off. Just don't know if it still works
They should fit no problem due to you can adjust the rollers/tighten them up onto the uprights as needed (which is what you'll have to do since rep uses slightly smaller tubing on their racks)
@@MattPendergraph I can't believe you answered this comment so quick and on a older video. You just got yourself a new subscriber!
@@ElJoeRN 😂...I try my absolute best to respond to any/all questions/comments I receive....if I'm able to of course!! I appreciate ya watching!! Thank you so much for the support!!!
Can I add one additional question to this. Do you think this will fit on the inside of the pr 5000 (41” depth rack). Rogue website says is needs a 43” rack but a number of videos I have seen look that there is enough clearance to mount on the inside
@@dominicwarren3227 I'm 6 inches away from hitting the upright on the other side when my arm is extended straight out and I'm using the standard trolley handles....meaning....the arm is taking up 37 inches of the 43 inch area I have. Hopefully that helps!
What is the depth of your rack?
Mine is a modified RM-6, I have a 30 inch rear section and a 43 inch front section
Thanks daddy
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almost buy the long, but i see short is better
😂...I'm definitely a fan of the shorter...if you couldn't already tell!!
I wonder which has more exercise versatility 🤔
You're only limited by your imagination!!!!....or at least that's what they say.....lol
I wouldn’t buy it that’s just me but good review
Thank you...I appreciate you watching!
What is the depth of your rack?
Mine is a modified RM-6, I have a 30 inch rear section and a 43 inch front section