Your production value and entertainment level on each of your videos exceeds that of channels with 20x your current subscribers. More people need to watch you and I recommend you to my cycling buddies. Keep it up, these videos are 💯
Yeah your channel is great plus, I just ordered my ERX, bit of a risk but seems worth the potential reward. Enjoy your bike, looks like a great compromise between road and gravel, great for winter and for going off road a bit!
@@beneyckmans20 thanks a lot. Very happy to hear you re enjoying the vids. The ERX is really great and i assume that by now they have ironed out all the small issues they had along the way.
Excellent step by step tutorial. Matter of fact, your instructions were so easy to understand and follow. You gave me full of confidence to undertake one.
Thanks so much. Means a lot to me as this is exactly what i am trying to show. It is not that hard to build up your own bike from components. Hope you will have a great experience building yours 🤜🤛
Very nice build! Hope you have to ride it in the rain the next time.😉 Not to see you getting wet, but for reserach if L-TWOO worked on the water resistance problem. #forthesience 😄
Hehe. I actually tested the water resistance in another video. Have a look at the second part here: ruclips.net/video/1Cmb-VGhjQI/видео.htmlsi=jHB3JUYoGLvXRV9z
I built a G21 for my wife last summer. As soon as I saw the first t47 bracket I knew you had the wrong one. While I like the idea of threaded bottom brackets for ease of maintenance, I find that style of bracket(the shallow T47) don't have a lot of engagement for the wrench.
@@ddroppelt amazing. Ti will be an inpressive build. Waltly also finished mine yesterday. I specified it with T47 so will be able to reuse that Standert bb that didnt work here.
@@klein-concept sweet! Forgot that you mentioned the T47 in the waltly video. Always nice to re-use parts and better when it appears to be the better standard Well before chinese new year even, nice. Excited to see the video on that frame!
Thanks a lot. I actually also ride the eRX on my R12 bike without any problem. Also did a water test recently which seemed to be a problem for some other youtubers. Have a look at the second part of this video: ruclips.net/video/1Cmb-VGhjQI/видео.html
Hello! Thank you for the video. I recently finished assembling my grevel with the ltwoo gr9 groupset. I couldn't figure out how to bleed the brakes. I watched your video and realized what my mistake was! Now the brake lever is not pressed almost all the way and has the correct resistance! Thank you
I live in China ,I bought WheelTop EDS TX 7-13 speed group set , 13 speed cassette Sunshine and 13 speed chain SUMC 13 and have my S-Works sl7 13 speed. Best Regards
While building I wished I had spent few extra hundreds for the DI2 instead of mechanical. Trying to route 4 housings into the small holes of the handlebar was PITA and took super long hours. On the other hand the bb was easy as I had read about the internal bearing version in thier website.
@@klein-concept Not at all. But I emailed them and they assured it would would work. Shifting is alright in the end. If anyone wants to know how I did it - The brake housing first as in the video. The shifter housings went through the small holes on the handlebar then out the stem, using the same routing string. Then later through the frame. Trying to make them all go through small holes last is where you'll find what a pain the process will be and almost impossible. In fact it was impossible for me. Hope this help.
When I assembled my bike, I realized that I had made a mistake with the brakes. Ltwoo supplies a groupset with metal pads. And I bought Shimano rotors only for resin brake pads. Unfortunately, Ltwoo does not sell polymer brake pads, and in order not to change the rotors, I bought cheap resin pads from Aliexpress. If I use standard Ltwoo pads and a Shimano "resin" rotor I get a terrible loud squeaking noise when braking
Oh really? I use the shimano discs on this gravel bike as well as my R12 with the stock L-Twoo brakes. Didnt have any crazy noises coming from it. Are you sure your brakes or discs are not somehow contaminated?
@@klein-concept unfortunately I can't be 100% sure. I see that the pads leave deep marks on the disc. maybe I bought a fake Shimano rotor or something. I can't ride a bike yet. It's -20°C outside now. so I can't have a full test ride. only in my apartment. Soon I will get resin pads and I will be able to find out if they will make any weird noises
electronic shifting should get some kind of GPS support or find-my supportthat will give you the location of your bike. Airtags are easily findable easy to remove
Do you get any toe overlap with the front tire? Would you mind saying (1) your height; (2) the frame size you're riding; (3) your crank arm length; (4) shoe size; and (5) how far back you mount your cleats, please ('mid foot' vs fore foot)? Thanks for the detailed video!
Unglaublich geiles videos mit dem build ✌🏻 ich hab mein g21 eher zum Offroad monster gemacht mit 2,1x29 zoll reifen. Wünsche viel Spaß mit dem teil, meins fährt seit einem 3/4 jahr unglaublich gut beim Bikepacking
@@klein-concept auf alle Fälle, unglaublich was das Ding wegsteckt. Im Sauerland mit 60 Sachen Waldpisten runter ist kein Problem und auch in Spanien hat es sehr tapfer gekämpft. Hab als schaltgruppe eine SRAM axs mullet verbaut selber und damit macht das Bike einfach Spaß :)
What made you go for these narrow tires apart from the road/gravel hybrid idea behind this build? I'm asking because word is spreading that wider tires are faster even on road (disregarding the aerodynamic penalty of a few watts). Don't know what to believe anymore😆
Have question for you , great build BTW. I and building exact bike for my wife and got stuck on bb as well , my problem is that this bb fits perfect but GRX cracks 1x spindle is way too short I am using inboard T47 85.5 from Token Crank spindle is about 1/4” short to pinch second bolt on the crank arm. Spoke with frame guys and they said to use smaller lips bb , well problem is they are less that 2mm on each side and I don’t believe there is another bb. With thunder tighten rings you wouldn’t be able to wrap wrench around them and correctly tighten w/ o stripping would you share exact bb model you used here , greatly appreciated , greetings from Montana , USA
Hey, that sounds like a weird situation. Should normally work with a t47 with internal bearings. I used the Token T47v24 model. www.centrumrowerowe.pl/suport-rowerowy-token-shimano-t47-t47v24-pd22852/ Wonder if this is any different than the one you have as i think token only makes this one with internal ones.
@@klein-concept OK reason I asked is because the pin you used is gold ...and it seems to match BH59 colour as BH90 are silver pins ...so had me scratching my head.🥲
hello, i have the same issue with the BB: i have the right BB but i can't find the right tool to use. can you list some of the right tools or which parameters or keywords to use?parametar
I have bleed the brakes several times, exactly like you have done but I keep having sponcy brakes. Not sure how to resolve this.. :( I use discs that came with the groupset so they should be thick enough for sure.
Did you maybe try to push the brake levers while pushing the oil thru? Otherwise you could also tweak the tiny screw in the brake lever. the one in the front of the lever.
@@klein-concept Not at the same time but after first push through and no more visible air, got some air from pushing the levers. Brakes work but I like firm brakes. I also made sure the adjustment screw on the levers was completely counter clockwise. Guess we'll keep trying
On this one i only did the testride so far but i am also running a erx on my lther R12 roadbike. Even did a water test while washing the bike. No problems so far. 🫶
The frame has been provided to me directly from Yoeleo in China. I mentioned that in the unboxing video and also added it to the video description as i forgot to mention it again in the recording.
Does it auto switch the front deraileur depending on which cog of the cassette it's on? Cos you wouldn't ride small ring and small cog. @@klein-concept
Why no grease on threads and many other important places? This is a big mistske. Cable hose inside the frame without foam liner will be extremely annoying. It is also possible that you made a mistke with headset compression plug. 5nm is ok maybe for inner metal compression plug but deffinately not for topcap. Topcap needs 1-2 nm just to elimnate movement. I can see some shopping in Poland 😉 Regards
Hehe good eye. Yes been in 🇵🇱 at the family when i was building this. Regarding the top cap i specifically went with the recommended torque that was printed on the inside of the topcap. So far no problem. Steering didnt really stiffen up like i would expect with an overtightnened top cap. Just so i can keep this in mind for the next builds. Which other places would you recommend to grease?
@@klein-concept good to know. Usually topcap is only 1-2nm. I am a little bit crazy with using grease - I always use it on every possibile thread (bottle cages bolts, stem bolts and many other).
@@therollingwheels1603 thats interesting. For example on the bottle cage bolts. Sometimes they loosen up during a ride so i was rather considering to use threadlock on it. 🫣
No no no... the only common feature of the T47 "standard" is just the 47mm thread! That's it. :D There are internal bearings (T47-86), external bearings (T47-68), the Trek-specific T47-85.5 (close enough to T47-86, though) and also the asymmetrical T47A-77, like on Felt and Factor bikes. T47 is like four different BBs in a trench coat, pretending to be a standard. They even need a different tool to install!
@@klein-concept looking forward to that. The retro ones are my favourite bikes from your collection. I also love the standert, but for some reason, to me, the retro ones have more charm.
Sorry i say 28mm in the beginning but actually run 38mm. Works pretty well so far. But you re right 32 might be even better. Do you have any tire recommendation?
Man nice build. You have made me think again about buying Ltwoo ERX vs 11 Speed Shimano DI2 (8170). Find their 105 di2 too heavy and I would then be forced to buy 12 speed components , whereas Ltwoo requires no further investment. Have you ever tried the r8070 and how does it compare to ERX?
Thanks a lot. Yes i know what you mean. I recently purchased an Ultegra Di2 for another build and already a bit annoyed that i will need another wheelset and wont be able to switch between wheelsets back and forth easily. The eRX one is quite nice if it works. Only downside might be support in case you need any, like some other youtubers did but both of mine have been running smooth so far.
Keep the aluminum computer mount!! No need to go for a carbon one and save 20g when your bike is 8,4kgs! Also you should ABSOLUTELY go for Conti’s Terra Speed in 40. Faster than GravelKing and more puncture resistant!!
@@klein-concept i’ve tried GravelKing, GravelKing SK, GravelKing SS: lotta punctures on them all. Terra Speed are super fast for Gravel tires with an excellent puncture protection. Very affordable and choice of all black, transparent sidewalls or cream sidewalls. Little knobs, nothing too agressive. TBH i ride them on Tarmac (check my « GravloCross » build) and they feel awesome. RollingResistance confirms their excellence
Find ihn super. Kabel routing war recht smooth, fühlt sich solide an, integriert sich schön und gibt vor allem sehr gute stabilität wenn ich mal eine abkürzung durch den feldweg nehme.
Video production is nice! But while watching this build I had so much back thoughts about how miserable those new technologies are, half a hundred of BB standards, so you need basically 3 different tools to be able to install only T47 bb. I am almost the only one of my friends who uses vintage steel bicycles for training/weekend rides (not for sport, more for fun/spending time with friends), but slowly I spread my virus among them he-he. Still cant get what the problem with square tapered, its not creaking at least.
I agree and while i liked the T47 standard in general i was very confused by there being different versions of that standard. I actually never used a square tapered bb. The two vintage ish steel bikes i ride are now set up with BSA and ITA. Also simple enough for me and you can get all the tools you need for this at any random bike shop.
T47 'standard' is nothing but an expensive pain the ass that only benefits Sram users. In the UK, I could only find one internal(once you have worked that out) T47 BB that was less than £200 and, as you found out, it had a different notch pattern than the tool I had already purchased. Eventually ordered one from Token but the postage cost more than the bottom bracket and took weeks to arrive.
Sorry to hear that. Even tho i like it as a standard jn general it is really a bit of a mess in regards to the two versions that exists and the tools required. I was also struggling to find a cheapish internal one. Sounds like some distributors need to get on top of that in the UK.
Everytime someone is cutting the fork very short early on I shake my head. Even pro riders first ride new bike frames (geometry) for a couple of 100kms before cutting the forks.
Yes i can see that. But by now i know my position around my reference frame quite well and as this one is a gravel frame it had a taller headtube already anyways. If i would ve going on proper gravel rides i might have cut it a bit longer but as i will mainly stay on the road with it, even in this setup it feels taller than what i would normally ride. But overall i agree. You are right and cutting it step by step should be the right approach. 🫶
Your production value and entertainment level on each of your videos exceeds that of channels with 20x your current subscribers. More people need to watch you and I recommend you to my cycling buddies. Keep it up, these videos are 💯
Thank you so much man. That really means a lot to me 🤜🤛
100% Agree. Well done mr. Klein 💙
Yeah your channel is great plus, I just ordered my ERX, bit of a risk but seems worth the potential reward.
Enjoy your bike, looks like a great compromise between road and gravel, great for winter and for going off road a bit!
@@beneyckmans20 thanks a lot. Very happy to hear you re enjoying the vids. The ERX is really great and i assume that by now they have ironed out all the small issues they had along the way.
It's great that you don't skip parts of the process and you talk about the gitchas. Helpful and entert. Also ASMR vibes
Thank you 🫶
Enjoyed the T47 shenanigans, typical for the unexpected problems when building/upgrading bike parts
Haha its been an interesting learning 🫣
Excellent step by step tutorial. Matter of fact, your instructions were so easy to understand and follow. You gave me full of confidence to undertake one.
Thanks so much. Means a lot to me as this is exactly what i am trying to show. It is not that hard to build up your own bike from components. Hope you will have a great experience building yours
🤜🤛
Yeh same. Watching these has totally demystified the process. I feel way more comfortable about the idea of building my own now.
Thank you for taking the time and sharing this build
Hope you enjoyed it 🤜🤛
Amazing how SRAM still don't let you microadjust the FD. Great video.
Didnt even know that. Thought that is standard these days. Crazy 🫶
As always, I enjoyed every minute
Thanks a lot man 🫶
Very nice build! Hope you have to ride it in the rain the next time.😉 Not to see you getting wet, but for reserach if L-TWOO worked on the water resistance problem. #forthesience 😄
Hehe. I actually tested the water resistance in another video. Have a look at the second part here: ruclips.net/video/1Cmb-VGhjQI/видео.htmlsi=jHB3JUYoGLvXRV9z
Boom theres 1.5hrs of my 2hr Z2 session on zwift sorted for tonight.
Hehe, happy the timing worked well on that one. Happy Zwifting.
@@klein-concept 2yr old in bed and asleep by 730. It's like it was meant to happen !
I guess im sleeping later tonight
@@EstelonAgarwaen hope you ll enjoy this build. It had a couple of ups and downs 😂😂
@@abedfo88 🤜🤛
I built a G21 for my wife last summer. As soon as I saw the first t47 bracket I knew you had the wrong one. While I like the idea of threaded bottom brackets for ease of maintenance, I find that style of bracket(the shallow T47) don't have a lot of engagement for the wrench.
I agree. It is very narrow but with the right tool it works.
For once got a good new channel recommendation from RUclips! 🥳
Thanks a lot and welcome 🫶
Love it! Game On!
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Very nice, the amount of details are encouraging to do my own build, thank you!
Go for it. Its so much fun 🤜🤛
it is somewhat in the works, mailing with Waltly for a titan frame
fyi, they also have T47 BB options, now that you have all the tools! :)
@@ddroppelt amazing. Ti will be an inpressive build. Waltly also finished mine yesterday. I specified it with T47 so will be able to reuse that Standert bb that didnt work here.
@@klein-concept sweet! Forgot that you mentioned the T47 in the waltly video. Always nice to re-use parts and better when it appears to be the better standard
Well before chinese new year even, nice. Excited to see the video on that frame!
@@ddroppelt yes T47 seems like a real good standard. I will they would maybe split it into T47 e for external and T47 i for internal 😂😂
Lovely build! Love it ❤️
Bardzo dziękuję 🫶
Very nice. Enjoyed every second. You need to do a long term review of the groupset.
Thanks a lot. I actually also ride the eRX on my R12 bike without any problem. Also did a water test recently which seemed to be a problem for some other youtubers. Have a look at the second part of this video: ruclips.net/video/1Cmb-VGhjQI/видео.html
Hello! Thank you for the video. I recently finished assembling my grevel with the ltwoo gr9 groupset. I couldn't figure out how to bleed the brakes. I watched your video and realized what my mistake was! Now the brake lever is not pressed almost all the way and has the correct resistance! Thank you
Very happy to hear that i was able to help. Enjoy your gravel bike and happy riding 🤜🤛
Excellent video, well done. I'm right with you trying to figure out bottom brackets and spindle diameters especially when the sram dub launched.
Thank you. Yes the dub as well as t47 standards are not as straight forward as i thought 😂😂😂
I live in China ,I bought WheelTop EDS TX 7-13 speed group set , 13 speed cassette Sunshine and 13 speed chain SUMC 13 and have my S-Works sl7 13 speed. Best Regards
That is amazing. I am trying to get a wheeltop eds groupset for testing since a while. But it s not so easy to purchase. How do you like it?
While building I wished I had spent few extra hundreds for the DI2 instead of mechanical. Trying to route 4 housings into the small holes of the handlebar was PITA and took super long hours. On the other hand the bb was easy as I had read about the internal bearing version in thier website.
So you made it work with mechanical? I can imagine that must have not been easy 🫣
@@klein-concept Not at all. But I emailed them and they assured it would would work. Shifting is alright in the end. If anyone wants to know how I did it - The brake housing first as in the video. The shifter housings went through the small holes on the handlebar then out the stem, using the same routing string. Then later through the frame. Trying to make them all go through small holes last is where you'll find what a pain the process will be and almost impossible. In fact it was impossible for me. Hope this help.
@@AKG77 thanks for the tips. Think this will be very helpful for anybody who wants to give this setup a try with mechanical shifting 🫶
When I assembled my bike, I realized that I had made a mistake with the brakes. Ltwoo supplies a groupset with metal pads. And I bought Shimano rotors only for resin brake pads. Unfortunately, Ltwoo does not sell polymer brake pads, and in order not to change the rotors, I bought cheap resin pads from Aliexpress. If I use standard Ltwoo pads and a Shimano "resin" rotor I get a terrible loud squeaking noise when braking
Oh really? I use the shimano discs on this gravel bike as well as my R12 with the stock L-Twoo brakes. Didnt have any crazy noises coming from it. Are you sure your brakes or discs are not somehow contaminated?
@@klein-concept unfortunately I can't be 100% sure. I see that the pads leave deep marks on the disc. maybe I bought a fake Shimano rotor or something. I can't ride a bike yet. It's -20°C outside now. so I can't have a full test ride. only in my apartment. Soon I will get resin pads and I will be able to find out if they will make any weird noises
Ok. Feel free to share once you gave them a try outside 🤜🤛
Very nice video! Can you put down a link to these bottle cages?
Thanks a lot. Of course: a.aliexpress.com/_EyOwEoh
electronic shifting should get some kind of GPS support or find-my supportthat will give you the location of your bike. Airtags are easily findable easy to remove
That would be a great feature to have 🤜🤛
Do you get any toe overlap with the front tire? Would you mind saying (1) your height; (2) the frame size you're riding; (3) your crank arm length; (4) shoe size; and (5) how far back you mount your cleats, please ('mid foot' vs fore foot)? Thanks for the detailed video!
Yes i had a little bit of toe overlap. I m 188, riding a 54 frame here with 172.5 cranks on 44 shoes with cleats mounted towards the mid foot. 🤜🤛
Unglaublich geiles videos mit dem build ✌🏻 ich hab mein g21 eher zum Offroad monster gemacht mit 2,1x29 zoll reifen. Wünsche viel Spaß mit dem teil, meins fährt seit einem 3/4 jahr unglaublich gut beim Bikepacking
Danke dir. 🫶 Auch sehr geil sicher mit den 2.1 er reifen. Gehst also richtig offroad?
@@klein-concept auf alle Fälle, unglaublich was das Ding wegsteckt. Im Sauerland mit 60 Sachen Waldpisten runter ist kein Problem und auch in Spanien hat es sehr tapfer gekämpft.
Hab als schaltgruppe eine SRAM axs mullet verbaut selber und damit macht das Bike einfach Spaß :)
Klingt nach einer echt geilen maschine. Respekt 🤜🤛
What made you go for these narrow tires apart from the road/gravel hybrid idea behind this build? I'm asking because word is spreading that wider tires are faster even on road (disregarding the aerodynamic penalty of a few watts). Don't know what to believe anymore😆
Ah okay in the end you said 38mm but in the intro I heard 28mm
Yes sorry for the messup in the beginning. For that kind of setup i think 38mm is really perfect.
Where are you from? I have noticed you bought the bottom bracket in a Polish store ;)
I m based in Berlin but my roots are Polish and I was building this up over Christmas close to Warsaw.
Have question for you , great build BTW. I and building exact bike for my wife and got stuck on bb as well , my problem is that this bb fits perfect but GRX cracks 1x spindle is way too short I am using inboard T47 85.5 from Token
Crank spindle is about 1/4” short to pinch second bolt on the crank arm.
Spoke with frame guys and they said to use smaller lips bb , well problem is they are less that 2mm on each side and I don’t believe there is another bb. With thunder tighten rings you wouldn’t be able to wrap wrench around them and correctly tighten w/ o stripping would you share exact bb model you used here , greatly appreciated , greetings from Montana , USA
Hey, that sounds like a weird situation. Should normally work with a t47 with internal bearings. I used the Token T47v24 model.
www.centrumrowerowe.pl/suport-rowerowy-token-shimano-t47-t47v24-pd22852/
Wonder if this is any different than the one you have as i think token only makes this one with internal ones.
definitely think the B limit screw could be adjusted a little better but nice bike
Thanks a lot. Good point. Will bring it a bit closer. 🫶
nice video , 💪thx
Thanks a lot 🤜🤛
What size/model is the pin and olive that go into the hydrolic brake cables ? Im building my er9 but can't find any explanation 😅
I used the regular Shimano BH90 olive and pin.
@klein-concept Thank you! I'll order them ASAP any big difference between BH90 and BH59 that you could tell?
@@FreddeeLewis unfortunately that i dont know 🫣
@@klein-concept OK reason I asked is because the pin you used is gold ...and it seems to match BH59 colour as BH90 are silver pins ...so had me scratching my head.🥲
Should the red bearing be on top and the black bearing on the bottom? In the R12 frame, the lower bearing (red) is thicker.
Good question. For me it worked best this way 🤔
hello, i have the same issue with the BB: i have the right BB but i can't find the right tool to use. can you list some of the right tools or which parameters or keywords to use?parametar
Have a look at this one. Worked best for me. www.parktool.com/en-int/product/bottom-bracket-tool-bbt-47
Where is your Yoeleo R11 build video? taken down?
Never had an R11 only the R12. Is that what you mean?
I have bleed the brakes several times, exactly like you have done but I keep having sponcy brakes. Not sure how to resolve this.. :( I use discs that came with the groupset so they should be thick enough for sure.
Did you maybe try to push the brake levers while pushing the oil thru?
Otherwise you could also tweak the tiny screw in the brake lever. the one in the front of the lever.
@@klein-concept Not at the same time but after first push through and no more visible air, got some air from pushing the levers.
Brakes work but I like firm brakes. I also made sure the adjustment screw on the levers was completely counter clockwise.
Guess we'll keep trying
Maybe turn the screw a little bit in. That worked well on my R12 bike.
Where did you purchase the erx? Their aliexpress store doesn’t have one with battery
Bought this one quite a long time ago actually without battery and purchased the batteries separately on Amazon.
What is your experience like with the erx groupset have you tested one for a while yet?
On this one i only did the testride so far but i am also running a erx on my lther R12 roadbike. Even did a water test while washing the bike. No problems so far. 🫶
Hi, after so many months of usage on 2 bikes, did the LTWOO eRX give you any problems?
@@traveller78 no problem except that one one i sometimes need to click twice to change a gear. Still love it. 🤜🤛
@@klein-concept I see, thanks for the feedback. I’m considering to get a set for my new gravel budget build haha
Nice video! Did you order from the European site?
The frame has been provided to me directly from Yoeleo in China. I mentioned that in the unboxing video and also added it to the video description as i forgot to mention it again in the recording.
when you were indexing the read derailleur, was it on the big or small chain ring?
Good point. It was on the small one. But i didnt have any issues while out riding in the big ring.
Does the eRX auto shift between rings? @@klein-concept
Sorry i dont think i understand? What do you mean with autoshift?
Does it auto switch the front deraileur depending on which cog of the cassette it's on? Cos you wouldn't ride small ring and small cog. @@klein-concept
@@DanTuber ah i understand. No it doesnt do that.
Why no grease on threads and many other important places? This is a big mistske. Cable hose inside the frame without foam liner will be extremely annoying.
It is also possible that you made a mistke with headset compression plug. 5nm is ok maybe for inner metal compression plug but deffinately not for topcap. Topcap needs 1-2 nm just to elimnate movement.
I can see some shopping in Poland 😉 Regards
Hehe good eye. Yes been in 🇵🇱 at the family when i was building this. Regarding the top cap i specifically went with the recommended torque that was printed on the inside of the topcap. So far no problem. Steering didnt really stiffen up like i would expect with an overtightnened top cap.
Just so i can keep this in mind for the next builds. Which other places would you recommend to grease?
@@klein-concept good to know. Usually topcap is only 1-2nm.
I am a little bit crazy with using grease - I always use it on every possibile thread (bottle cages bolts, stem bolts and many other).
@@therollingwheels1603 thats interesting. For example on the bottle cage bolts. Sometimes they loosen up during a ride so i was rather considering to use threadlock on it. 🫣
No no no... the only common feature of the T47 "standard" is just the 47mm thread! That's it. :D There are internal bearings (T47-86), external bearings (T47-68), the Trek-specific T47-85.5 (close enough to T47-86, though) and also the asymmetrical T47A-77, like on Felt and Factor bikes. T47 is like four different BBs in a trench coat, pretending to be a standard. They even need a different tool to install!
Great standard 😂😂. Wasnt aware about all of this.
Nice build. How are the steel bikes doing? :) kind of missing them here haha
Hehe, recent one was just the Standert Triebwerk steel one. There will be some lightweight updates on my Klein Concept retro steel build soon.
@@klein-concept looking forward to that. The retro ones are my favourite bikes from your collection. I also love the standert, but for some reason, to me, the retro ones have more charm.
@@MirceaCatalinPopescu i know what you mean. There is a stronger emotional bond with them ❤️
@@klein-concept indeed you’ve hit the jackpot with that summary 👌
If you could choose any colour of this frame, what would it be?
Love a good disco paint
For a cross over 30 or 32 tires
Sorry i say 28mm in the beginning but actually run 38mm. Works pretty well so far. But you re right 32 might be even better. Do you have any tire recommendation?
Man nice build. You have made me think again about buying Ltwoo ERX vs 11 Speed Shimano DI2 (8170). Find their 105 di2 too heavy and I would then be forced to buy 12 speed components , whereas Ltwoo requires no further investment. Have you ever tried the r8070 and how does it compare to ERX?
Thanks a lot. Yes i know what you mean. I recently purchased an Ultegra Di2 for another build and already a bit annoyed that i will need another wheelset and wont be able to switch between wheelsets back and forth easily.
The eRX one is quite nice if it works. Only downside might be support in case you need any, like some other youtubers did but both of mine have been running smooth so far.
What cassette are you running on there?
I think its an 11-32.
Keep the aluminum computer mount!! No need to go for a carbon one and save 20g when your bike is 8,4kgs! Also you should ABSOLUTELY go for Conti’s Terra Speed in 40. Faster than GravelKing and more puncture resistant!!
You are so right. Its not a weight weenie build anyways.
Thanks for the tire recommendation. Will give them a look 🫶
@@klein-concept i’ve tried GravelKing, GravelKing SK, GravelKing SS: lotta punctures on them all. Terra Speed are super fast for Gravel tires with an excellent puncture protection. Very affordable and choice of all black, transparent sidewalls or cream sidewalls. Little knobs, nothing too agressive. TBH i ride them on Tarmac (check my « GravloCross » build) and they feel awesome. RollingResistance confirms their excellence
Wicked. Thanks a lot. Will give them a try when the Panaracer ones will need a replacement. 🫶
Schönes Video! Wie zufrieden bist du mit dem Yoeleo Gravel Lenker?
Find ihn super. Kabel routing war recht smooth, fühlt sich solide an, integriert sich schön und gibt vor allem sehr gute stabilität wenn ich mal eine abkürzung durch den feldweg nehme.
Video production is nice!
But while watching this build I had so much back thoughts about how miserable those new technologies are, half a hundred of BB standards, so you need basically 3 different tools to be able to install only T47 bb.
I am almost the only one of my friends who uses vintage steel bicycles for training/weekend rides (not for sport, more for fun/spending time with friends), but slowly I spread my virus among them he-he.
Still cant get what the problem with square tapered, its not creaking at least.
I agree and while i liked the T47 standard in general i was very confused by there being different versions of that standard.
I actually never used a square tapered bb. The two vintage ish steel bikes i ride are now set up with BSA and ITA. Also simple enough for me and you can get all the tools you need for this at any random bike shop.
T47 'standard' is nothing but an expensive pain the ass that only benefits Sram users. In the UK, I could only find one internal(once you have worked that out) T47 BB that was less than £200 and, as you found out, it had a different notch pattern than the tool I had already purchased. Eventually ordered one from Token but the postage cost more than the bottom bracket and took weeks to arrive.
Sorry to hear that. Even tho i like it as a standard jn general it is really a bit of a mess in regards to the two versions that exists and the tools required.
I was also struggling to find a cheapish internal one. Sounds like some distributors need to get on top of that in the UK.
@@klein-concept Speaking of expensive pains in the ass, Brexit also decimated our options for getting parts from EU retailers such as Bike24.
@@AlbaTech thats what i just thought. Should be a good opportunity for somebody setting up a local UK distribution.
Everytime someone is cutting the fork very short early on I shake my head. Even pro riders first ride new bike frames (geometry) for a couple of 100kms before cutting the forks.
Yes i can see that. But by now i know my position around my reference frame quite well and as this one is a gravel frame it had a taller headtube already anyways. If i would ve going on proper gravel rides i might have cut it a bit longer but as i will mainly stay on the road with it, even in this setup it feels taller than what i would normally ride.
But overall i agree. You are right and cutting it step by step should be the right approach. 🫶
It should be T47 internal bottom bracket..
Yes i figured that along the way. Didnt know there are different T47 s as i thought it is one standard. Now i learned from it.
Ltwoo frame? 😂
Hahahahahhaha. Damn i didnt even notice.
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The "LTwoo G21" frame? Yikes
Messed that one up. Of course its the Yoeleo G21 🫣😂😂