World's Longest Railcar
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- In Sept 2010, BNSF once again undertook a long-distance move of a large reactor vessel with the world's longest railcar, the Schnabel CEBX 800. At this time, this car was also the largest in the world. The journey began in Toronto, Canada, on CN rails to Chicago, then via BNSF to the Frontier Refinery in El Dorado, KS. The journey took approx 2 weeks at a normal top speed of 15 mph. This car has hydraulic controls that allow the load to be shifted horizontally or vertically for extra clearance. Even so, a few lineside structures had to be removed for this special movement.
Length empty: 232 feet
Length with this load: 351 feet, six inches
Length of reactor vessel: 131 feet
Weight of load: 1.25 million pounds
So nice to see a caboose again . I will never get use to them being gone. A train just isn't right without a caboose!
trains still use cabooses but there a small box on the back with the red light
@@davefertal786 the box is called the FRED (flashing rear end device)
@@davefertal786 would be nice trains have the caboose and FRED attached to them
I miss Lori, a waitress that was fired from work 3+ years ago. She was a really sweet woman and she had quite a nice caboose.
@@MustangsTrainsMowers 😂😃😄😁😆
That BNSF locomotive looks like it's fresh out of the blue box.
;)
Lionel
Hooper Welding with the Canadian Flags and "Canada" printed above it looks like we sent you down a bullet of some sort...most likely gas and oil business
Nice video. These locomotives are powerful. Only one was needed to haul all of those 53 foot trailers
Reynault, the UP loco you refer to is an EMD model, about 4400 hp. Those roadrailer units are very lightweight, as they have no freight car under them, just the trucks, or "bogies" (?) as I believe you may call them. Once a train of those is made up, they cannot be easily disconnected enroute. We once had a derailment of a roadrailer car near Olathe, KS, and it took a crane and several hours to get things back right. Much more involved than conventional cars with couplers.
@@samsrailventures1961 thanks for the reply. I'm from NYC. Metro North Railroad had the streamlined steam locomotives from the 1950s. There is actually one as an exhibit at the Westchester Medical Center. They were retired around 2006.
Currently we have the GE Genesis locomotives. Amtrak has some too. They are still in service after well over 20 years Check out New Jersey Transit Rail's ALPS Locomotives too. They are some really neat looking locomotives as well.
My favorite locomotive is the classic EMD DD40AX. I plan to get 2 HO scale models soon.
The orange Locomotive hauling the longest railcar I believe is a SD90. Is that BNSF??
I really like these locomotives but I hope for a 100 foot production model soon (SD100).
@@milestone_achiever4634 Thanks Reynault! I don't know why I assumed you were from France, haha. That ALPS loco does look really nice.
I love cabooses they make a train feel old school
I see your western nuclear rockets trying to hide as canadian tank vessels BLYAT! LOL
It's a pressure vessel for a Nuclear Reactor.
@@N75911_ American TSAR BOMBA case CYKA..
Hot damn that is. Also the caboose in the consit too
The Boeing trains out of Seattle were as massive as I've ever seen...
That cattle truck didn't block the intersection he was just turning Quitline just to make a good video
Nice. Wonder what the balloons were for?
Nice intro
Thanks, I eventually hope to cover most of the stuff you've seen in the intro.
What route would they have taken from Toronto to Chicago? The most direct route would have necessitated going through the CN tunnel between Sarnia, ON and Port Huron, MI and that ain't gonna happen with this load.
Now THATS a big sausage!
top speed of 15mph to EL Dorado from CHI? F that!
did anyone realize that the up loco was giving the other locomotive a warning that he was coming thru w/a shave and haircut
If I am not mistaken, the American flag was on the wrong side! Shame on y’all! 🙁
The downside is that happened back in 2010. Doubt it would do much good to complain now. 🙁
What BNSF SHOULD do is electrify Metra's busiest line. How embarrassing it is that the South Shore Line, with about 5% as many riders/mile/day is electric, but not Metra's busiest line. How can Illinois expect car drivers to electrify when they won't even electrify mass transit? Hmm?
Is the METRA run by BNSF? If not, then it's not BNSF's decision to make.
Well said. I couldn't agree with you more. BNSF has no interest in spending their scarce resources on commuter service. They only want to milk the cow for as long as it lives.
@@samsrailventures1961 also, I'm from metro ATL, I WISH my area had transit like Chicago.
@@karlrovey Not sure how it works, Karl. BNSF owns that rail line, supplies the train crews. But METRA is the entity that oversees things, I would guess.
Does anyone know what that antenna-like object is at 3:30?
I'm guessing they are clearance measurement devices. There are a couple of them at different points.
+samsrailventures That was my first guess. Now that I re-watched the video, I also see one in front of the object, though I'm wondering why it looks like electricity is on top of it almost like a plasma globe.
That BNSF locomotive is Gorgeous. Love their paint scheme. Thanks for sharing. Great catch.
8:07 The almost perfect shot to show how the weight is distributed on the 36 axle Schnabel.
Sees title
German ww2 Dora railroad gun: "am I a joke to you?"
redshirt 51 Gustav Cannon*
Me: wonders if the big thing is a tactical nuke.
Me: throws rock at big thing
Big thing: chuckles I'm in danger
@Tactical Legos Its a pressure vessel for oil refining.
One thing I miss about a train and you don't to many of them anymore, is the caboose. To me that is what really makes a train and makes it complete. A caboose on a train, those were the days.
True, very true
Yep gone they are, rode the old Southern RR cabs for many years, that was the roughest thing I’ve ever been on on or through. Unreal! SP, and MP had the best, cushion under frame= smooth. Sad that computers run these things now
@@donbryson7536 It looks like AC driven locomotives do need computer controls. For me this is not a bad thing....It would be really bad if you've had electric locomotives and electified railways...like we have in Europe. I live in Europe. I've never been to America. But I feel like I don't belong here...I feel like I was meant to live in the US. Here governements run all the things..and most people are so brainwashed that they believe this is a good thing. Cars in Europe have tiny engines nowadays usually under 1 litre and only three cylinders. This is not a joke...and it is worse by the day. No real V8 engines on cars around here.....Trains are electric around here...bleah!
That thing alone has 36 axles!
Yep. All in the name of keeping the ground pressure low and preventing the track bed underneath from failing. US tracks are pretty strong but even they have limits.
The RoadRailers were a nice bonus!
I had never seen those before. Interesting concept.
I remember when they were first released, strangest things, never actually saw any in use...
I used to see those on a Conrail line.
Imagine listening to that car go Through Marion leaving the CSX yard at 10 mph
It needed two cabooses! They usually have no cabooses!
Evidently they still have them around! Because they are so polished and clean it appears that they don't get much of any use!
When they carry nuclear material, they have all kinds of support personnel along with the movement. Included with that in the caboose are heavily armed SWAT type personnel to safeguard the shipment.
The car was originally built for ABB to transport large electric transformer's. Cabooses necessary for wide loads for operating personnel and high security shipments. Has been spotted many times at Port of Houston, TX.
@@davidhbingham6812 they usually travel with the 2 caboose. Need somewhere for the crew to sleep.
It had 2chooses a blue and white one and a red one at the end
I would love to hear this roll over a diamond
Great video production. Nice chasing. Custom made railcar. When's the last time you saw a caboose on the end?
🦃Thumbs up as always! 🦃
Apart from that long railcar…I’ve seen many trains in my life but some trains are odd balls to me starting with the one @ 2:04. I’ve seen trailers mounted on flat cars, piggy backs and articulated flat cars systems.
But I’ve never seen in my life a train using the trailers themselves as railcars with bogies in between each trailer as a super long articulated train. Aren’t trailers walls not strong enough for pulling and pushing like that? Train cars are designed for that, not trailers… 😵💫
Very odd for me to see!
Yeah, I make my Schnabel unit pretty much like this. Need to find flag poles and US and Canada flags to load on though as I model CN and NS. The load from 2005 looks a lot like the retort load that Bachmann put on their later - Red / Black - model from 2012. shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=258_324_659&products_id=6361&zenid=rbactee3uuc4t7cbv3qnp7p810
Does BSNF have higher standards for their engines or something? I notice quite often, BNSF engines are shinier, cleaner on the outside and have nicer paint jobs than alot of other railroads. UP is by far the worst looking most of the time. CN was somewhere in the middle.
I have a friend who can't understand why I'm a rail fan. This is the first link I could think to send him. Thanks for posting.
The UP passing by is a great comparison to the size of the car!
I've seen some Schnabels, but this one tops them.
Thanks for getting the overhead shot!
I know train companies keep up on taking care of their vehicles but this one looks brand-spanking-new like it just came off the lot
The word Schnabel comes from the German word for a birds beak. The main frame ends are a triangle shaped like a beak. Schnabel cars were originally designed to haul large oversized loads, such as transformers where the load becomes the center of the main frame. The load, or the frame under the load has the tension pins and compression pads to connect to the end frames. That is why the car gets longer when loaded. The number of trucks (bogies) depends on the car capacity. The patented part of the schnabel car is the hydraulic lift and shift system under the ends of the beaks. An operator rides each end to control the lift/shift functions.The lift allows passing over vertical curves (knolls) and shifting sideways to minimze throw out on horizontal curves and a limited amount of shift to clear side structures on straight track. In the USA, Schnabel Cars have been built by numerous companies to US and European designs. There are numerous versions of the schnabel concept on heavy duty highway truck rigs.
Thanks John. That's a nice, detailed explanation. I love the idea of the bird's beak describing the shape of the car.
You're welcome. Back in June of 1974, Bob Deickman, Bernard Albers and I were awarded U.S. Patent #3,788,237 for the shift and lift design that controls the end of the Schnabel. The design was for a 600 ton capacity car that was lost to Norca as best I can remember.The design of s Schnabel car also places the load at the center of the running gear while moving the the pivot (normally at the centerplate) inboard to reduce the throwout of the center of the load on horizontal curves. McDowell Wellman is another manufacturer that has built large Schnabel Cars. I was surprised to see the number of videos on Schnabel Railcars in RUclips and that Bachmann has made an HO kit for it. It looks like a nice kit.
I'm honored that you, one of the designers, have commented here.
Please note that the design we had patented was our own "means to an end" with regard to accomplishing the the lift, shift and throwout offset that is the system called 'Schnabel' by a previous design in Germany. Unfortunately, we did not receive the order for the car. There are many different variations used ( and improved) by Norca, McDowell Wellman, ASEA, Krupp, Westinghouse, and most likely others by now. We worked for Pennsylvania Engineering Corp (PECOR) in New Castle which went out of business in 1992.
I saw one of the Krupp cars at Kasgro in New Castle when it was new. It is very impressive.
Alsp, in the 70's, PECOR built the heaviest capacity (at the time) depressed center flat car for United States Steel. The car had reporting marks USCX-1000, 450 ton capacity, 20 ft deck, 16 axles, 120 ft coupled length, AAR Plate B clearance. The car was designed to carry a 400 ton ingot with 50 ton of blocking. The car main frame and main span bolsters are multiple web A-514 'T-1' Steel. The running gear has two Buckeye 8-wheel trucks on each end. It does not have a shift-lift provision. This car has since been purchased by Kasgro, the main frame has been lengthened in the load deck area and the car is painted red. I've seen it sitting on a siding in New Castle.
That got a little carried away, sorry.
Nice video! Oh my word, there is absolutely no way there could be anything longer than this!
What would Dick & Dom have said? Ah yes, "BOGIES".
(UK kids 📺 - if you didn't catch it, you won't get the joke)
That is one LONG railcar! That GEVO is working hard
This Schnoobwacker car has the best ever name. Quite a speedy traveler as well.
I'm guessing that these cars were invented and used first in Germany?
Look at that clean ES44AC looked like and ET44 for a second then I realized this is from 2010
Actually that is an ES44DC.
What was with that train that passed with the truck trailers which looked like they were straddling the rail car? Their wheels were nearly down to rail level. I have never seen this setup before. How does it work?
They're called *_Roadrailers_*
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadrailer
Hmm nice show.. are there special things needed inside a locomotive to operate that slow under load? How many miles did the actually travel in this state? Fascinating..
The load is 1.25 million lbs, which would be about 652 tons, I'm thinking the huge railcar most a be a few 100 tons?
2:38 I've never seen that style of car before, it looks mental
Truck trailer on wheels
This was an awesome train, I actually and accidentally ran across in El Dorado, KS, it's final destination and got to watch the train as they entered the refinery there.
Load weight 1.25 MILLION POUNDS ?! WHOA !
I'm pretty sure this train came off the Indiana Harbor Belt and switched on to the BNSF Chicago Sub.
Just a single locomotive? Some of those those massive trains will have ten or twelve locomotives.
15 MPH max speed ? Like portable cranes.....?
I love how it says on the one side made in Canada Hooper wielding makes me proud in a way as a Canadian
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Never seen this done before. Thanks
On Thu UP train those are road railers XD
I thought those were only used by Norfolk Southern.
I didn't know other rail companies would move road railers.
@@wms1650 They are, its an NS train, using foreign power
Throw away the Stars and Stripes and the Maple Flag. This Railway Car is MADE IN GERMANY. by KRUPP. 🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪
True! The Germans have a penchant for designing some pretty amazing super size machines.
They should have had a steam loco pull that for the odd occasion.
Is there a reason for the empty flat cars in front and back of the heavy weight?
Dave G my guess is that the extra flat cars are for a little extra braking power.
Probably a crash buffer too, especially if something goes sideways
Father worked for CPR ,in the 50's as a brakeman...he thought 30 to 40 cars was a long train pulled by 2x 2600's he would now be knocked over to see where the industry has progressed now...
Yes. The longest currently are about 16K feet, have ten 4400 hp locos; 5 up front, 3 mid train, 2 at rear.
Serious wow to the audio quality in particular, so many recordings of such events can't capture the dynamics of events like these. I'm in awe!!!
Thanks! I try to pay as much attention to audio as video. With railroads in particular, you need wide dynamic range. We use various external mics.
What is the point in having longest car if:
1. You can go fast with it
2. It is in single instance
Hello Yaroslav. I will assume you meant "can't" go fast. Speed is not important with such a large load. Customer pays lots of money to get the load delivered safely. 2) single car "instance": Again, this load is important enough to move by itself. It would waste money to add 100 freight cars behind it that all need to move much faster. Plus, it would probably not work well to have trailing tonnage behind this load.
Looks like you met the Schnables.
If an issue... conductor walking 2 miles to rear if needed? Would take almost an hour. ??
Been there, done that. The RR's are using on-call "responders" with vehicles to transport conductors in situations like this. Even so, there are plenty of places that a responder can't drive. So in the end, you sometimes end up walking. Yes, it takes a long time. There are some 3 mile long trains now, btw.
Gustav is that you?
Oh the good ole days. My dad used to ride the caboose for DT&I railroad. I have it in my blood. I guess only us guys can understand that feeling.. Good job with the different locations and views. Shou7ld of had my dad help get me a job. Instead I became a RN (Nurse) and now a semi driver.
Steve Ward
Thanks Steve. I try to vary my perspectives, even try to shoot 24/7 in all weather.
Thanks for the link. That's a great model. Need some big curves to run that!
samsrailventures that's a horn!
awesome trains....good job friend...like
Super shots
Umm doesn't the video title say "world's longest railcar" ???
Good Q... this one is a bit hard to nail down. It depends on what definition you use. On the railroad, we see some articulated railcars (multiple well intermodal cars) that exceed 300 feet in length. Even though the multiple well cars are permanently connected with pins, they step not counted as one car. The Schnabel type car is counted as one car. Interestingly, its' loaded length is variable, because the load becomes a part of the car structure. Generally, it's safe to say that these newest Schnabel cars are both longest and largest of all railcars.
70 metres, that's a long car
Impressive equipment and nice catch!! 🚂🚂🚂
Wow. The Union Pacific 5227 looked like it appeared to be only wheel trucks underneath all of those semi truck box trailers it was pulling.
While Hooper Welding's handiwork is hollow, the first flat car with the two unmarked red containers, lashed down with a shock absorber between them is the real curiousity.
I have no idea how Wabash trailer loaded can pull all that weight behind it
David, I've wondered that too. There have been a few instances where trailers collapsed. But, I think the buff forces for a roadrailer are much less. They are tightly coupled, so very little slack action. Aldo, quite a bit lighter than a regular freight train.
I should think specialty cars like this would go to a pool somewhere once they've finished the initial job for which they were built (as I guess would be the case for this car) so that they might be used again, right? I mean, the fact that this car exists might be the impetus for someone to come up with another use for it, which leads me to ask how long it took to build the car, the cost compared to that of an engine or some other common piece of rolling stock, and how the construction was coordinated with the building of the reactor vessel.
That is seriously the coolest thing ive ever seen!
Thanks! Yes, it's very impressive when you're standing trackside and this monstrosity slowly rumbles by, with all those axles.
THUMBS DOWN........... Why??? YOUR ENTIRELY TOO LONG INTRO! What a waste of MY TIME!
Foamer: Normally the American Flag should be flown on the "passenger" side, if two flags are displayed it is okay to put one on either side as long as they are mounted the same height and displayed the same way.
The logistics of this load must've given people headaches for weeks prior to the move...
Andrew, good question. I know they worked on it for a long time beforehand. They had to move some line side things like signs. The car itself has adjustable ends that shifted the load sideways at times. Also, the load had to stop to allow other trains by. If I recall correctly, other trains were not allowed to pass on most curves.
That's pretty cool, actually. Do you know if it's an airbag suspension on the ends to give it a smoother ride or standard steel bearing design, do you think?
@@andrewrosti7477 not sure about airbags. It had hydraulic adjustments on each end.
Schnable cars are a rarity. Only seen them a hand full of times during my time on the road. Interesting the vessel had two way cars as an escort.
Awesome long train with a caboose. 👍👍👍❤️
Thanks. One long railcar anyways.
Putting shnabel aside, another train is not less interesting - they managed to connect semi-trailers with each over and added train asix to get them on railroad? Crazy!
2:50 that is one LOOOOONG horn blow
Wasn’t a horn show, it was for the crossing
I gotta model that. Now I know what to do with all those stock trucks i took off my cars. Nice footage.
I never saw a train car so long 0_0
Great video thanks
Now that's one long rail car! They may not be common from where I live!
An O scale version of that car would be almost 88 inches long.
The cabooses were awesome to see. What's plural for caboose? Cabooses? Cabeese? Lol
That must have been heavy because usually a regular 4 axel car can carry 80 tons
Hes' got to be doing at least 20 mph at that crossing at the 5 minute mark.
Why does everyone have to emphasise length and size. It is not the size of the railcar that counts. It is how you use the rail car and how the railcar satisfies the customers that use it that is important. I am betting, smallish, medium size rail cars can satisfy the rail customer maybe even more than this too big a rail car can. Not everything is about length and size. If I ever rent a rail car, it is going to be a smallish, medium size that is comfortable and does the job well.
Hey. Men have always been fascinated with size. Machines, or whatever. We like big, loud, powerful things.
This is raillfanning it's kind of like carols of bells
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Thousand legger is what they are called . Railroad slang.
this was used from rails unlimited
Amazing video!
WE CALL IT RHE SCHNABEL
So it was just 500 tons, Ahh wait sounds better with a bigger number, that will be 500,000,000 million Grams
LOL. Is that 500,000,000,000,000?
I like those shoving platforms as well. Notice the two AtlasO switches about 6 minutes into video? Nice video.
Thanks Victor! I'm assuming you're referring to the electric lock switch stand at 5:15? It's there to keep someone from throwing the switch when a train is approaching. The large silver housing protects the locking/timing mechanism and can only be opened with a RR key.