That time the ground opened and swallowed a train - Lindal Railway Incident
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- In this video, we take a look at how an entire locomotive vanished into a hole that opened up seemingly out of nowhere
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Yes, we all know the engine went "down a MINE", so you're going to have to CRAFT up a better comment than that
Gee I wish u could post images in the comment section I would have uno reverse carded you.
The exit is over to the left, please use it
Nice choice of music at the end. It's a bit blocky though.
See kids this is what happens when mine straight down
Dream stans are gonna be mad lol
I've heard this story on several occasions and the fact that the engine is still technically there just buried, it really is quite the story. This was also the very first event that inspired a Thomas story I ever read.
There's also the event of a train going through a building wall and falling to the ground. In Thomas, it was Gordon who went through the wall but didn't fall, only having his front axles hanging loosely if I recall correctly.
@@kevinb2 Awdry loved to turn real events into Thomas stories.
Henry's accident in "The Flying Kipper" is based off the Abbot's Ripton crash where a signal arm was pushed into the clear position by snow.
The book "Enterprising Engines" is all about the end of steam on British railways. One of the stories, "Super Rescue" was inspired by an event from Waterloo Station the previous year where a steam locomotive rescued two diesel hauled trains
Thomas Goes Fishing, The Flying Kipper, A Better View for Gordon...
Dude's real good at referencing Thomas stories without even mentioning that the real-life events inspired them.
Yeah, the train is still there underground.
@@Dd-ue4ct It's spelled Abbots
“Tom, where is the train?”
“In the hole.”
*Distorted noises*
"Why doesn't this concern you more?"
"Oh I'm more worried about the giant space-octopuss."
Nice Tomska refrence
Yes, but where is the hole?
(Distant yelling) Thomas the tank engine!
@@Momo_Kawashima In the hole!
I don't think i'm the only one who wants that engine to be recovered right?
That was such a great story
Why?
@@florjanbrudar692 Well i guess im not the only one, 36 people liked the comment. Should i ask them their names mate?
Would be a great project, especially as it would be the only one of its class left, even if conserved to remain in the condition it was recovered in, it would be a great way to show what happened to it when it got swallowed by the Earth. If it were to be restored, it would probably end up being something like 90-95% brand new so would probably be cheaper and easier to build a replacement. Still, the class was very elegant and it’d make a great project for a group sometime in the future.
@@pressstart1490 but that engine must be Very rusty
@@nycolasgabriel5082 yes but they did recover two steam engine in mud a couple years ago.
That must have been a interesting conversation to have explaining that you lost a train in the ground
I mean, if they know where it's buried, then they didn't really lose it...
“Sir the 0-6-0 fell into the ground”
@@glowjoe09 gad darnit that's the third this week! This ones coming out of your paycheck!
@@yearlygymnast9865 but sir it was the ground
*grumbles* fine I'll take it from the secretary and human resources people.
Step 1: be steam locomotive
Step 2: bring a goods train to a local train yard
Step 3: feel the ground shake
Step 4: _be consumed by the earth_
Step 5: _keep falling deeper into the ground, the light of the sun is fading_
Step 6: _realize no one is coming to save you_
Step 7: *this is now your eternal prison*
September 22nd, 1892
The "Lindall Railway" Incident
Man, that's dark
Makes me imagine an audio horror story written from the engine's perspective.
There's a person who does such with a T&F slant every Halloween.
One story they did was an engine who'd been shunted off a pier and was left on the sea bed, narrating their state in life, having been forgotten for years.
*300 years later*
step 8: your unearthed!
Step 9, get sold and scrapped bc it's too expensive to repair and maintain
Step 10 get turned into a washing machine or something.
@@yearlygymnast9865 step 11: profit?
Topham Hatt: well Thomas we can’t do anything about this.
Thomas: but what about the breakdown train-
Topham: I say we can’t do anything, we don’t do anything
Poor Thomas was left a sad, poor engine. He was then buried and left there forever.
And though he wished for death, he was unable to die. So eventually, Thomas stopped thinking.
"The final episode that nobody talks about"
Gah. Pipped me to the post. Excellent. :D
*You got the bad ending*
@@DAVEMC1000 hehe, i see what you did there.
Curious. I wonder if that engine ever will be retrieved one day…
Even more so, I wonder what state it’s in… I imagine it might well be crushed out of shape under all that ballast…
The boiler has probably been complety crushed by the imense weight of all the trains passing over the years and also the amount of ballast put ontop of it and it would also be almost completly rusty due to the water that has seeped through all the ballast and the loco by the sounds of it is over 50 meters down in so they would need to dig about a 60 meter wide and long hole to get it out so it will probably never be recovered
@@tbfg0960 It will probably be retrieved in hundreds or thousands of years, just like roman ruins.
@@tbfg0960 I'm more optimistic about the boiler surviving than most of the rest of the engine. Boilers are pressure vessels and the strongest part of the engine. But wheels, motion, cab etc will probably have been crushed or distorted. Plus everything will have corroded merrily over the last 130 years.
@@iankemp1131 but the pressure disapates when the pressure vessel is rusted or opened. And boilers also aren’t strong enough to survive rust…
@@iankemp1131 the boiler is neither strong enough to survive intact underpressure ie what happends if air is not allowed in when the boiler cools down. Normal air pressure will happily crush a boiler even better than your hand would crush a aluminium beverage can.
“Down a mine, is he? Ha, ha, ha! What a joke!”
Boop Boop little Thomas. We will have you out in a couple of puffs
While I know we all know about thomas going down a mine, but if you think about it, Thomas got lucky
He only got stuck in a hole. These trains actual fell in and were possibly burried
Thomas only sunk a few meters while these other locomotives actually fell down deep wholes which are underground
Dang you're right that's actually scary when you think about it.
Gordon: Why so you are Thomas. Shall we form an alliance? You help me and I help you.
Thomas: Right you are.
There was an occasion when a hole appeared in the ballast on the track on Lewisham ( south London ). An engine plus cement tanker was sent from Hithergreen to fill the hole. It took two wagon loads, butthe hole was filled, ballast tamped and line re-opened. All was fine until the person who ran an auto-works from under the arches, returned from holiday and opened his workshop doors to find the whole place filled with concrete. This happened in the 1960s.
There's going to be one unhappy insurance company involved.
I think “preserved” may be the funniest designation they could have given to that engine, except this time preserved more like a fruit jam.
During WWII a munition train had an explosion in their Berkley yard. Because it was a vital site in the war the debri was pushed in the hole and covered up by fresh tracks. Then half a century later it turned out that there were tons of unexploded ordnance so millions were spent to carefully clean up the yard. With all the heavy modern rail stock it's a wonder nothing happened.
holy shit
Boy, imagine just going about your day, and your train suddenly falls in a hole.
Story: Hole swallows a whole locomotive
Music: _admiring a sunset in minecraft pre-alpha_
Off-topic fact: The Furness Railway D5 Class is also an 0-6-0 steam tender locomotive like the D1. Also, known as the 1 class, only 19 locomotives were built from 1913 (the same year that the LBSCR E2s were first produced) until 1920 but only 6 survived long enough to be given a British Railways number. Considering that there are a few other steam locomotives of the railway that survived and still running today, this fact is really sad, yet incredible.
and those 6 were the only Furness Railway locomotives to survive into BR ownership.
Still there are two Furness locos left and there's the chance of riding behind one.
Odd that the illustration appears to be a Midland Railway locomotive, and that the other well-established explanation is that the sink hole was not due to mining subsidence, but to a washout of sand by one of the underground streams in the area..
I am imagining the archeological papers in 4000AD: "Remains of offerings provide new insight on late second millenium cthonic train cults of Britain."
Why does this feel like it’ll be so accurate?
So, there's a Furness Railway 0-6-0 somewhere underground in Furness. Hmmm, not a fact I expected to hear
Here in the states there was at least a similar event in January 15, 1953. In Washington DC a PRR GG1 suffered brake failure and ended up in the basement of the station it ended up at. They just decided to cover it up because of a presidential inauguration. I believe the loco was eventually recovered. Sorry I don't have all the details.
That was gg1 4876 it's on display at the b&o railroad museum
Yeah you're right it was cut into 3 parts and retrieved.
More info:
8:38 am, January 15, 1953; PRR train No. 173, the Federal, overruns the platform at Union Station in Washington D.C.
It is later determined that a defective anglecock on the rear of the third coach (of 16) was the cause of the brake failure. An angle cock is the valve that you close on the air brakes on the first and last car so the brakeline can pressurized. The valve closed while the train was in motion, so the brakeline on the last 14 cars remained pressurized independant of the engineer's controls. Only the brakes on the locomotive and the first 3 coaches were responding, and even after the engineer dumped his air the train was barely slowing down. The final mile into the station was a descending grade, causing the train to accelerate as the engineer blew distress signals.
The tower operator in the station yard routed the runaway onto Track 16 and telephoned in the runaway to the station master's office.
The train plowed through the buffers at 35mph, demolished the station master's office which had been evacuated 20 seconds prior, and a newsstand before falling through the floor into the station mailroom below. Fortunately, most of the mailroom employees were out on coffee break and the few that remained were in a portion of the room that did not collapse.
Anticipating large crowds for the innauguration of Dwight D. Eisenhower 5 days later, the wreck was cleared, a temporary stationmaster's office and newsstand built, and a temporary floor was laid over the locomotive in only 2 days to prevent overcrowding at the station. Afterwards the locomotive was cut into 3 pieces, dragged out of the basement, and shipped back to Altoona for an extensive rebuild. Today it resides at the Baltimore Railroad Museum.
@@Random3716 love that story! Thank you!
It was Eisenhower. What’s even better is that no one was killed.
I think after nearly 130 years of being buried underground has probably not done it any justice. My guess it's just a wee bit rusted out by now, although I guess there's always the possibility it's in better shape than we might think. Let's just hope another hole doesn't open up and take it's next victim.
anything metal in a dry environment generally stays in a very good condition. So that makes me wonder if the dirt surrounding it helped preserve it and keep it in a good condition
The mineshafts it fell in have flooded.
@@the4tierbridge That's not surprising and given its age it's probably nothing more than a pile of dust like the Titanic is or will be at some point. Maybe a few pieces of the engine will survive but I doubt that very much.
Locos from Barry were restored from terrible states!….
@@PennsyPappas I guess we’ll never know.
Everybody talking about Thomas but I instead think of that episode of Tom and Jerry where A bird drop a bowling ball onto a track to stop Tom riding a train over Jerry. The ball make a massive hole and Tom and the train go down the hole in hilarious fashion.
Underrated comment
Huh, that’s interesting
Ok but it would hilarious/terrifying if someday the ground shifts enough that it forces the engine back up to break the surface.
That sounds like those zombie movies where they suddenly push that rotten hand out of the ground
Sadly, most believe that most of the engine has rusted away or been crushed by the weight of the earth. If anything remains, it's a miracle.
I mean, unlikely, but glaciers have done the same thing to plane crashes.
@@jayk-pianist7532 hence why it would be hilarious and terrifying ^•^
WHO DISTURBS MY SLUMBER
"Hey, I've seen this one. It's a classic"
"What do you mean seen it? It's brand new!"
Future archeologists are gonna be real confused by this one
oh yea XD
Especially if society goes through another dark age where knowledge we possess now is lost to time.
Is it a coincidence that minecraft music is playing in the background and part of minecraft is about mining underground?
Fun fact the event would inspire the railway series story down the mine
As RUclips has not posted my original comment I will paraphrase it.
There was at least one other similar incident but with a fatality.
It was on 30th April 1945 in the shunting yard at Brookside Colliery, Wigan, Lancashire (now Greater Manchester).
Under the colliery sidings was the main shaft of a disused mine. It was mine No. 7 unofficially called "New Zealand".
A large hole opened up and a shunting locomotive "Dolly", the driver called Ludovic Berry and 13 loaded coal wagons fell in.
The locomotive apparently wedged in the shaft sides, at least temporarily, at about 100ft (30m) down but nothing was seen of the driver.
In the end, the hole was roofed over and there is today a memorial to the driver which serves as his gravestone.
I am aware of the irony that the man buried far below (some say 1200ft [390m]) has the surname Berry.
There are much longer accounts and photos available online. I tried to link to them but I think that is why RUclips did not like my comment.
The " 'Choob " moves in mysterious ways. Especially since attaining 'singularity' c. 2014...
If anyone is interested as to where this accident happened the area covered by the mine is now wooded and is off the B5237 Bickershaw Lane, Abram (near Wigan). Nearby is a traveller camp.
From the only photograph that I could find the locomotive was an 0-6-0 saddle tank shunter (with inside cylinders). It carried the nameplate "Dorothy" although everyone called her "Dolly". I could not discern any other identifying information.
if that line ever shuts down, we should dig it up for fun
Yes, yes we should.
Cant we just do it next time the line is getting fixed
@@HenrikofEldenbright that would take a lot of quick planning
I like how some of the accidents on Sodor are inspired by real life incidents
Many, in fact. Rev W. Awdry made no secret of it. His stories about the Skarloey Railway also helped to publicise the Talyllyn Railway on which it was based, the first volunteer-run preserved railway.
Let's hope they actually dig it up one day.
- But it's probably too damaged from the fall and weight of all that ballast they threw on it.
Reminds me a bit of a locomotive they dug up in a river in Australia.
One might hope that enough dirt covered it before the hard ballast was tossed in, so the dirt may have cushioned it a bit. Let's hope they'll get it out one day, indeed.
I think the locomotive that was pulled out of river was in New Zealand.
19 February 1942, Darwin, Australia. Loco NF 6 is on the Jetty. It is smoko, when it is blown in to the water by a Japanese bomb. Both driver and fireman survive, although the fireman suffers some injury. So the driver - from interstate - has lost his fireman from injury and his engine as well. (Ref Australia's Forgotten Volunteers by J Y Harvey. Prologue.)
It's the same one. It fell all the way through.
Sadly your picture isn't of the lost engine - it's a Midland Railway 2F. As someone else has said, this incident inspired the well known Thomas story. Does anyone remember the Arthur Conan Doyle tale, 'The Lost Special', in which an entire train was allegedly wrecked by political saboteurs who drove in into the mouth of an abandoned mine shaft?
Their are many similarities but the midland railway could a have the d1 and called it a 2f also there some very small differences
Wow, it's the only fossilised steam locomotive in Great Britain.
i mean in theory the loco should be perfectly "preserved" under the ground apart from the immediate damage it would of taken when falling down there so if they actually managed to get it out. Should be to hard to fix it up depending on the damage done when it feel.
the fact that the engine is considered preserved is just starving from success
Now this's a great subject for a *Time Team Special*
(they've had them for far more modern buried buildings & historic vehicles than this)
I really do hope that one day the engine will be unearthed. I really do wonder what condition it's in. The ballast poured on top hardly did good for its rear, and the initial plunge no doubt ruined the front. But it didn't explode, at least. The only sad oddity is that even if it were to be finally dragged up from its tomb and even restored, its tender is gone for good, as it was repurposed for another engine of the same class and thus subsequently scrapped.
Some say the engine's rusted away or been crushed. I've no doubt it's damaged, but I sincerely doubt that it has been rusted to disintegration, as I doubt the stream or flooding theory. Besides, seen some of those Australian engines trapped in a bog for years? Those were still in tact too.
Many things have been preserved in bogs simply because of a lack of oxygen to allow materials to degrade. The engine buried in the sinkhole doesn't have that luxury. No doubt it's still there but everything is likely so twisted and mangled due to the weight, in addition to the rust, that actual restoration may be impossible.
It's possible it's been pretty badly damaged from water- and possible mineral runoff-related corrosion and crushing from the changing forces of the load of settling material atop it and the unstable workings beneath and around it. It's hard to say without having details on the local geology and hydrology.
There's 2 Band new Victorian Railways R class engines that got entombed in a tip somewhere in Melbourne's western suburbs. They were damaged on the ship out from Scotland!
I was just going to add that the tender was recovered.
"WHERE'S THE TRAIN?!"
"It's in the hole"
I’d love to see a future archeologist discover this thing.
The Minecraft soundtrack in the background makes this video utterly hilarious x,D
This reminds me of the OG Thomas episode
Also absolutely love that you chose Minecraft music perfect
Archeologists in 100k years from now will probably scratch their heads in confusion. Digging in old records will tell them we stuffed even trains into the ground for "preservation"... They'll find us silly geese for all eternity and use it as a staple example to explain we even gave loyal machines a proper burial.
Thomas is very lucky that it wasn’t a very big hole or else this would’ve happened if things were different
There's a Volkswagen Karmann Ghia and a wrecked '60s Mustang buried in the back lot of my church. One of my friends from church jumped on the roof of the Ghia about 50 years ago and messed up the roof, while the Mustang allegedly hit a street light.
I grew up in Scranton Pennsylvania, when mine subsidence was a thing. It was fairly common for holes to open in random places all over the city do to the extensive mining under it. They finally filled in the shafts during my teens, I've seen reports that it would have been cheaper to buy every one out and relocate them and just abandon the city.
That locomotive might be the only one who is, well, Rested in Piece?
I hope one day they dig up the engine. If I’m right it’s one of the few Furness railway engines still in existence?
We were travelling in Eastbourne East Sussex a few years ago, when large hole opened up across the middle of the road, just a couple of cars ahead of us. It managed to swallow an entirely car right into what turned out to be an old collapsed Victorian main sewer pipe.
This engine is really preserved for future generations.
Railyard I worked at found a locomotive underground when doing some track work. It was pulled out of the ground and sent out to be restored. Story of how it ended up underground was when the steam era was ending this one derailed into a drainage ditch next to the tracks and since it was due to scrap they found it cheaper to just bury it.
Damn that poor engine got tricked by bowser
He thought he can save princess peach early
This is the real life inspiration for down mine it’s also a coincidence I that the Furness Railway touches the north western railway in lore And also the railway that Edward worked on.
The Flying Kipper from Sodor to London would pass over this very spot!
@@LeslieGilpinRailways actually it goes to Manchester.
@@LMS5935 I always mix up the Flying Kipper with the London passenger trains
@@LeslieGilpinRailways you’re not entirely wrong after arrives at Manchester Some of the trucks and fish on the train get put on other trains to London
@@LeslieGilpinRailways But the express would pass over that hole every Single day four times a day.
I kept checking to see if I left Minecraft open in the background until I realized the music was in the video LOL
Ludovic Berry, his train Dolly and 13 loaded coal wagons, fell backwards into a hole in 1945 in Wigan, They where buried including the driver. Worth a google, plenty of pictures.
Archaeologists in a distant future will suspect this was a place of worship and the engine was sacrified to the Gods.
It would be really cool if that engine was finally dug up
While I have heard this story a number of times before, your video about still provides details that the others have failed to mention.
That’s actually amazing history on this one thing and also intriguing! Loved this one!
"What happened to the train?"
It fell in the hole.
"The wha- OH MY GOD! How did that get there?"
I woke up, and there was a hole
Fun fact: This story would be an inspiration for the story "Down the mine" from the 8th book in The Railway Series "Gordon the Big Engine." & the 25th episode of the Television Series.
alt title: how a hole helped preserve a 19 century engine
Preserved? Sounds like that engine is being fossilized . . . .
Dang looks like Thomas got off easy in “down the mine”
"Train falls in hole"
Is somehow both an excellent funny title and also something you'd expect to read in a small town newspaper 😂
I guess that makes it the oldest serving locomotive in service,
Despite it being buried for so long a period of time.
This has also happened in Northern Canada when tracks were laid over muskeg (VERY soft, boggy ground) in winter when the ground was frozen. When the ground thawed, it still LOOKED safe, but when a train crossed, the tracks sank and took an entire train with it!
The minecraft ambient music is a nice touch
Have you ever heard about the baseball that made a steam loco stop
It's an interesting story that happened at a living musem/heritage railway
That has a small railway
A living museum? Is that how you describe a heritage railway?
@@florjanbrudar692 there's only a few heritage railways here in the us
So I guess you could classify it as that yes
Nice video! But I had to watch it twice because during the first watch, I was distracted trying to figure out why Minecraft was running...
I like how this video is talking about the death of a locomotive while playing the most chilling minecraft music
Anyone else for Down The Mine?
aye
Yep
Does anybody know the whereabouts of said hole? I'd love for that poor engine to be recovered one day.
I already imagined that Thomas will buried under the mine forever and never will resurfaced again. That will be a plot twist and dark ending for Thomas’ fans.
"hey limen where's the train that was supposed to be here yesterday"
"O well apparently it's in a hole".
i love how you put minecraft's music as the background music
At least Thomas was able to get out, unlike 115.
I was thinking wow this channel has a lot about trains until I realise the name of the channel
"Down the Mine" -Thomas 1984
Reminds me of a scene from Sodor's Legend of the Lost Treasure.
It didn't inspire that scene. It inspired Down The Mine, a book story.
"Help, Get Me Out!"
Cried thomas.
I lived in Furness for 15 years, and the story going round was that in the haste to get clear of the footplate, the Driver left his gold plated watch in a locker. Or so the tale goes...... A fascinating and well - researched account.
technically the Train's just late, 130 years late, but I'm sure it be along now anytime now.
I’ve never heard this story before and I wouldn’t even think it possible something like that could really happen. After hearing that I am to believe those who lay tracks are able to check for things like that. That engine went down to China!
that is basically Wilbert Awdry inspiration for thomas and frends/the railway series Down The Mine Story
Minecraft's music in the background is the icing on the cake
“Fire and Smoke said Thomas, I’m sunk!”
And he was
“Thomas goes down a mine”
“And a very naughty one too, I saw you! Just consider yourself lucky that this lead mine is in the heart of the island! Underground streams aren’t common here, and they don’t mine deep down here! If you’d still been in Brighton and this happened to you, they’d write you off! You might even be buried, you could’ve fallen ninety feet deep!”
“…”
“Is that a “Sorry Sir, I won’t Do It Again” I heard, Thomas?”
Don’t you think that Thomas’s carven crash in SLOTLT was also based on this event, only a lot more alike?
The hole does look similar like how both cover more than one track
welp i hope that engine found diamonds for armor
I remember this one... "Thomas and the Sarrlacc Pit."
A nice touch with the minecraft music, very nice.
I was born, and grew up in Barrow-in-Furness and this event is still well known in the area. Just FYI, Furness is pronounced like 'Furnace' and Lindal like 'Lindl'.
Well said, I would go with Fur-ns as a pronunciation (fellow local)
Sodor’s Legend of the Lost Treasure be like:
The real life version of down the Mine be like
This really inspired Down The Mine
1000 years later when future archaeologist unearth it and wonder at what is was, who used it, and why
Won't they have advanced Google by then to Google what it is?
ToT: Talks about a sad and tragic incident
Also ToT: Uses Minecraft as background music
"Luckily no one was hurt"
Thomas goes down the mine
Thomas falling down a hole in Sodor´s Legend of the Lost Treasure - the bad ending
I want to see that engine dug up. Is the ground over it still used as railroad? If not… let’s get some digging machines!