I remember my dad mentioning how back when Cracked was a magazine, they always stylized any talk about Germans as "Ze Chermans" Good to see Robert maintains that connection to his historical roots.
I now want The Onion to employ Robert to do the Infowars show, where he pretends to be covering for Alex for a while and just trolls the MAGA listenership. "Hi Im Robert, I'm from Texas, I own guns and take dubious supplements obtained from dubious outlets" 😅
Haha I'm so glad my wife's company got a shout out in the opening. She loved the dino bit and agreed with your premise. Never know? She's one of the senior scientist there
Perfect timing. I just picked up Baudrillard's "Gulf War Trilogy" so it seems "fortune, on his damnèd quarrel smiling, showed like a rebel's whore," today.
One thing I think the film got right is Lawrence was very much running through an avalanche. Almost everyone he dealt with wanted to use him somehow, and he chose to be used so he could advance his own wishes.
Its Asceticism (a-set-is-ism) not Aestheticism (as-tet-is-ism) Ascetism: to be ascetic, spartan, denying of the body A(e)stheticism: pertaining to matters of beauty
The trouble is that both can be argued to apply with Lawrence. He's motivated by his love of aesthetics, but he accesses the various historical buildings that he obsessed over by way of employing the principles of asceticism.
"Lawrence trusted very few people to the level of total understanding, the kind of trust where you had already said anything that needed said, and you could sit in silence together for hours" me and who?
Just perused Margaret's wikipedia, and wow, she's so cool!!! I'm going to be ordering all of her novels and requesting my local library to stock them too
Oh, yeah. ADHD sounds certain. I don’t know whether there’s also ASD/OCD/cPTSD or all of the above but it’s a least some of that. Good to know RFK would send him to a camp, too. I would like to know whether he was independently wealthy or if that trailed off with his dad. In other words, did he need his “career” or pursue it because of the opportunity it afforded him?
"What a sad, wicked life must a rebel guerilla have led to become that way?" _checks notes:_ - Loving, caring family, no financial problems, good education, interest in history, humanities and long walks, beloved by all he met. "What a sick, literal bastard."
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"No man, no problem". Ir's starting to look more and more sensible
If you go with the (correct) position that Mehmet the conqueror was the successor to Byzantium rather than it's destroyer, then you can reasonably argue that the Roman empire was ultimately defeated by the power of autism.
i do find it funny how you mock Orientalism while taking the piss out of a Welsh place name because its not an English word so you have a problem pronouncing it
57:35 While this is true in a lot of the middle east, it's also notably true in a lot of Southeast Asia. Places like Thailand, Indonesia, Philippines, Malaysia, Vietnam, and several other nearby nations (even if not explictly SEA, like Taiwan and kinda Japan [sometimes, they're still mad about American military bases so don't be American]) have a similar culture. I recall a true crime story in one of them, I watch a lot so I forget which crime or what country, but the locals viewed it as more reprehensible than if it was one of their own who was killed. The culture stresses the importance of guests, they are to be cared for, respected, and treated like a friend or even family, and this extends to things like people's willingness to help you. If you're lost, homeless, need a meal, or even just a warm place to rest during a travel, you can almost always rely on people from these types of nations (Despite the demonisation, this includes countries you would normally associate with evil, because of US propaganda) including even Iran, Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, South Korea, etc. The only expectactions they will place on you as a foreign guest will be that you respect their culture as much as possible (Shoes off indoors for many of them, silence during prayer, for devout Muslims being left alone during their prayer, treating them with respect, using polite terms to refer to them, and even things like showing a willingness to learn and understand. For example if you're awful at using chopsticks, instead of requesting a fork you'll usually be more pleasant to them if you ask for guidance and being shown how to use it, even if a fork ends up being supplied. The act of trying and being willing to learn is what matters most to most of these cultures. ***Do not take advantage of this cultural kindness.*** Live streaming lunatics are causing irreperable harm to this openness and polite society, for example if I recall correctly a major tourist spot in Japan have had to ban tourists from entering areas rife with Geisha, because the tourists will never listen and keep touching them. Treat Geisha's kinda like a stripper at an R rated bar. You look, you don't touch. They're paid to be nice and flirt with you, it is not an invitation. And by god do not be weird about things if you walk past one walking down the street. Don't take photos, don't get in her way, and don't bother her. She's got shit to do and you have no part in those plans. I wish Western cultures had this type of open friendliness, but unfortunately, we don't. And honestly that kinda sucks. That friendliness can make life itself feel less isolating.
And from what i know japanese mostly think of foreigners as ignorant of the often strict social rules do are pretty forgiving , just dont be a jerk. 😢 youtuber had a funny idea that maybe hide a yakuza in the stuff to jumpscare tourists and scare tourists to behave, as part of their job is looking intimitating , and it was jokey but still dunno if that would work but there are more creative ways to disguise stuff in there that can make watched by, somrone who can throw out folk if needed. Babbing seems counter to tourism i mean. There better ways to try scaring tourists to behave
I didn't expect the expression "Near East" to be used in the USA. I always heard that region to be included in "Middle East", given that America is nowhere near that places. Or maybe it made into the script because they were taking from British sources?
Agreed, it just sounds if Lawrence has relationships, he is very intense and it sounds like a doting fatherly , i mean given his complicated upbringing and how salim was his caretaker and company when sick, yeah he would super doting. And its not very weird that , a teenager might try weird weszerner clothes. As curiosity thing. He just sounds like he seriously is compensating for his own upbringing. The statue could be just , idk modeling isn saying anything? There can be weird bounderies and it really more fatherly friend stuff honest to god.
I don’t mean to diminish the concept of grooming or anything. But once upon a time we had the nonprofit Big Brothers which did mentorship. It sounds a bit like that? Obviously we can’t say, but that’s the vibes it gives me.
First episode I've seen before I heard, as excited as I am for waco2 in front of my basil garden! 🏡 (FDA is gunnin for us soverien citizens and our vegitation)
I have found most non-ace people TODAY dont really understand asexuality (usually when i mention im demi-sexual, which is on the ace spectrum), and its actually being talked about today. The idea of discussing asexuality over 100 years ago, seems dumbfounding to imagine. hell, i was a teenager in the 90's and no one even brought up asexuality as a possibility. its was gay straight bi, those were your choices, 20-30 years ago, if you were even told that.
Love this but also... I feel like... Honestly when white English men were going to these countries they weren't doing it for Gay Rights, it was for like, sex tourism so the framing is a lil weird.
The parents seem almost like a fin-dom situation, which is very modern. EDIT: I'm pretty sure it's only in America are college and university synonymous. Elsewhere university is the place you learn, and college is the place on campus the students live - what Americans would call a fraternity or sorority. Maybe Canada has the weird American definitions? idk
In the UK it's pretty murky. You have colleges that are universities, like some of the Oxbridge set, but most Colleges are an interstitial step between state education and university, as well as being a place for adults to return to education and improve their grades.
In Canada, a college is a lower level post-secondary school. You go to University for 4 years to get a degree in math or psychology. You go to college for 1-2 years to get a diploma in massage therapy or police foundations, etc.
@@casanovafunkenstein5090 Okay, so apparently nowhere has a consistent definition of college, lol. I assumed we Australians just used the English system, because that's what we tend to do, and that's how it works with their most famous universities, but apparently there's a whole extra layer of weirdness. It's like public schools all over again, lol.
47:40 one way to think about it is yes, kind of like the Pope, except if the fifth Pope decided to make his position hereditary, and his literal successor actually murders the fuck out of Jesus' grandson, who is loved and revered by a huge proportion of Christendom at the time and still is to this day, and even the side that was nominally on the Pope's side thought he was bad and that you needed a class of scholars and jurists who were independent of the Pope and secular power to offset the Pope's influence, up until the point when all of them were conquered by Martians and are subjected to Martian ideas of the state and religious law- look, the analogy isn't exact, okay?
I would listen to Bobby rambling about european amd eastern middpe architecture. Ok talking abiut unprepared crusaders could be fun too😊 Pretty sure its hospitality as even religious thing. I mean even a famouse midfle east character jesus talked abiut it. And i know from greece where violating hodoitality gets you the ire of deities. But even with sodom.and gomorra, where lot even offers his daughter to keep hodpitality to gender ambivalent angels, and the people , well were really redicilous rapey and, didnt stop. And violating hospitalicy rites here is a major factor probably why the indifferent ..... ists, also did the grave sin of violating hospitality, and the sodom and gomorra.
39:50 yeah. no. I get the thing about letting historical figures be morally complex, and I get that his reaction is supposed to be endearing, and I get that it's referencing a Keats sonnet, but, like. no. fuck-FUCK-anyone who writes with dreamy, starry-eyed wonder that that they know what Cortés felt like.
38:40 I know it's kinda rare that someone from BTB reads & reacts to these comments, but curious if you've considered an internal style guide to differentiate between pazzzphiles and child molzzzers? I only ask because this is the first time where Robert referred to someone as the former ("or he's a _________") and I thought maybe he meant that specific thing and not the other thing. (I also realize in all(?) prior episodes it has meant the latter.) Not that I particularly care, but given that they do mean different things and the latter term may or may not be more censorship friendly in addition to usually being more accurate, thought this seemed worth mentioning. E: Classic "commenting too early" syndrome, didn't realize this was the episode that was going to get into it. I even listened like 15 min past where it was first brought up!
As i listen to this i am doing repousse on copper to makw a bronze astragalus. i identify ohbthe sports thing yeah i identify. and i get the distaste for stupid rules and teams and results... now make him gay and this rings me like a bell
A sexeuals, or even demi sexuals man, being gay is such a time less thing, when I go years without any sexual interaction, people ask me all the time.. ARE YOU GAY?
of all the things you could complain about in this world and you decide to go to a youtube comment section and choose to be bothered by a nose piercing
Margaret’s episodes are always so good, super excited for the rest of them! Also a fan of the “Are they a bastard?” episodes a lot
What's breaking promises to Arab allies, my British imperialists?
What's petering my Toole?
@@TroyConvers5000 What's taking my Aqabas?
Solid intro!
What's not taking my prisoners?
ATONAL... NOISES...
Finally a BTB about Paul Atreides
lisan al'gaib
ROFL
I'm so high on melange right now I've actually seen episode 2 already. Spoilers?
@@johnmckiernan2176I need to see
Good God that would be an eight-parter.
Kid TE Lawrence sounds like he would have had very strong opinions about jigsaw puzzles and the 7th level class features of Rangers.
He sounds like he would have been able to successfully redesign the Ranger.
Finally a BTB about someone i would actually like to meet.
EDIT: PLEASE LET IT BE ACE
I want to meet John Brown to tell him that he was pretty cool, but he should be less shitty to his kids.
Being able to see Anderson is the best part of video.
I remember my dad mentioning how back when Cracked was a magazine, they always stylized any talk about Germans as "Ze Chermans"
Good to see Robert maintains that connection to his historical roots.
I think the first time I was conscious of this was Jason Statham making fun of his mate’s armament in Snatch.
@@sharkbelly1169 For sure, that's where my mind goes too.
Margaret is always welcome. Love her.
Totes!😊 Cool people that did cool things is an awesome show too!
I now want The Onion to employ Robert to do the Infowars show, where he pretends to be covering for Alex for a while and just trolls the MAGA listenership.
"Hi Im Robert, I'm from Texas, I own guns and take dubious supplements obtained from dubious outlets" 😅
"Legally don't." Best ending ever.
Finally, a Bastard episode about a bastard
this dude would have KILLED on 2014 tumblr posting his weird rocks and backyard fossil finds
Haha I'm so glad my wife's company got a shout out in the opening. She loved the dino bit and agreed with your premise. Never know? She's one of the senior scientist there
Perfect timing. I just picked up Baudrillard's "Gulf War Trilogy" so it seems "fortune, on his damnèd quarrel smiling, showed like a rebel's whore," today.
55:24
“I have had the delay of four attacks of malaria, when i had only reckoned on two,” may be my bee favorite sentence.
Again it is the legend! Muad'dib!
Also thank you for including sources in the description for the videos for once ❤❤
One thing I think the film got right is Lawrence was very much running through an avalanche. Almost everyone he dealt with wanted to use him somehow, and he chose to be used so he could advance his own wishes.
22:47 Finally a Behind the Bastards episode about an actual bastard.
Its Asceticism (a-set-is-ism) not Aestheticism (as-tet-is-ism)
Ascetism: to be ascetic, spartan, denying of the body
A(e)stheticism: pertaining to matters of beauty
The trouble is that both can be argued to apply with Lawrence.
He's motivated by his love of aesthetics, but he accesses the various historical buildings that he obsessed over by way of employing the principles of asceticism.
.... yeaaaaa about that
I really love Magpie's shoulder-frills. I get a bit of a Belle Starr vibe.
Y'know, for someone named Killjoy, Margaret episodes bring me tons of joy to listen to.
Kinda weird when you think about it.
28:00 "Tell me, Captain Pellaeon, do you know anything about art?"
I understood that reference.
Holy based
"Lawrence trusted very few people to the level of total understanding, the kind of trust where you had already said anything that needed said, and you could sit in silence together for hours" me and who?
Another excellent episode thank you
1:01:38 The 2016 election has scarred me, and now when I hear Aleppo, all I can think is Gary Johnson's, "And what is Aleppo?"
Just perused Margaret's wikipedia, and wow, she's so cool!!! I'm going to be ordering all of her novels and requesting my local library to stock them too
Thank you so much for doing a series on one of the most fascinating people!
38:45
Oh hey! Awesome!
Edit: Oh fuck.
Great episode. Can't wait for the next 3!
Did not expect to find out Lawrence of Arabia was ASD/ADHD today but man had the exact same school life and obsessive special interests I do...
Okay, so I wasn't the only one who heard/saw that. Good, good.
Oh, yeah. ADHD sounds certain. I don’t know whether there’s also ASD/OCD/cPTSD or all of the above but it’s a least some of that.
Good to know RFK would send him to a camp, too.
I would like to know whether he was independently wealthy or if that trailed off with his dad. In other words, did he need his “career” or pursue it because of the opportunity it afforded him?
Brilliant episode for my timorous ears!
damn, I really gotta keep up on y'alls content cuz this looks interesting as fuck
34:18 the potent essence of AuDHD lingers still 150 years later in these words
"What a sad, wicked life must a rebel guerilla have led to become that way?" _checks notes:_
- Loving, caring family, no financial problems, good education, interest in history, humanities and long walks, beloved by all he met.
"What a sick, literal bastard."
"No man, no problem". Ir's starting to look more and more sensible
Anderson and his Roy costume is the goddammed best
If you go with the (correct) position that Mehmet the conqueror was the successor to Byzantium rather than it's destroyer, then you can reasonably argue that the Roman empire was ultimately defeated by the power of autism.
Wasnt it destroyed by rowdy crudaders ultimately.
The movie is just about the most gorgeous one every made.
Not that it's got anything to do with it's historical accuracy.
Any chance of some episodes on Richard Francis Burton?
i do find it funny how you mock Orientalism while taking the piss out of a Welsh place name because its not an English word so you have a problem pronouncing it
Yeah, Robert, I love you, but Welsh really has had a bit of a time.
2:50 had me fucking rolling lol
I like a good "speculative bastard" profile every once in a while.
One of my favorite movies.
57:35 While this is true in a lot of the middle east, it's also notably true in a lot of Southeast Asia. Places like Thailand, Indonesia, Philippines, Malaysia, Vietnam, and several other nearby nations (even if not explictly SEA, like Taiwan and kinda Japan [sometimes, they're still mad about American military bases so don't be American]) have a similar culture. I recall a true crime story in one of them, I watch a lot so I forget which crime or what country, but the locals viewed it as more reprehensible than if it was one of their own who was killed. The culture stresses the importance of guests, they are to be cared for, respected, and treated like a friend or even family, and this extends to things like people's willingness to help you.
If you're lost, homeless, need a meal, or even just a warm place to rest during a travel, you can almost always rely on people from these types of nations (Despite the demonisation, this includes countries you would normally associate with evil, because of US propaganda) including even Iran, Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, South Korea, etc.
The only expectactions they will place on you as a foreign guest will be that you respect their culture as much as possible (Shoes off indoors for many of them, silence during prayer, for devout Muslims being left alone during their prayer, treating them with respect, using polite terms to refer to them, and even things like showing a willingness to learn and understand. For example if you're awful at using chopsticks, instead of requesting a fork you'll usually be more pleasant to them if you ask for guidance and being shown how to use it, even if a fork ends up being supplied. The act of trying and being willing to learn is what matters most to most of these cultures.
***Do not take advantage of this cultural kindness.*** Live streaming lunatics are causing irreperable harm to this openness and polite society, for example if I recall correctly a major tourist spot in Japan have had to ban tourists from entering areas rife with Geisha, because the tourists will never listen and keep touching them. Treat Geisha's kinda like a stripper at an R rated bar. You look, you don't touch. They're paid to be nice and flirt with you, it is not an invitation. And by god do not be weird about things if you walk past one walking down the street. Don't take photos, don't get in her way, and don't bother her. She's got shit to do and you have no part in those plans.
I wish Western cultures had this type of open friendliness, but unfortunately, we don't. And honestly that kinda sucks. That friendliness can make life itself feel less isolating.
And from what i know japanese mostly think of foreigners as ignorant of the often strict social rules do are pretty forgiving , just dont be a jerk. 😢
youtuber had a funny idea that maybe hide a yakuza in the stuff to jumpscare tourists and scare tourists to behave, as part of their job is looking intimitating , and it was jokey but still
dunno if that would work but there are more creative ways to disguise stuff in there that can make watched by, somrone who can throw out folk if needed.
Babbing seems counter to tourism i mean. There better ways to try scaring tourists to behave
Lawrence was a HEMA bro, I love that for him.
not just a hema bro, a hema content creator
From 4:11 to 12:24 sounds like someone slapped a low-pass filter on Robert's mic.
I wonder if the culture of remarkably warm hospitality has origins in the Silk Road. Tough to prove, but interesting
I didn't expect the expression "Near East" to be used in the USA. I always heard that region to be included in "Middle East", given that America is nowhere near that places. Or maybe it made into the script because they were taking from British sources?
Now why did he have to go and do all that?
I've been saying that a lot lately 😂
A new behind the bastards! Just what I needed to vanquish the sense of impending doom & dread I've had since America chose fascism. 😂😂🥲
Agreed, it just sounds if Lawrence has relationships, he is very intense and it sounds like a doting fatherly , i mean given his complicated upbringing and how salim was his caretaker and company when sick, yeah he would super doting.
And its not very weird that , a teenager might try weird weszerner clothes. As curiosity thing. He just sounds like he seriously is compensating for his own upbringing.
The statue could be just , idk modeling isn saying anything?
There can be weird bounderies and it really more fatherly friend stuff honest to god.
13:34 Sophie has a hard job.
I'm 49 minutes in. Did you guys ever read about the Silk Letter Conspiracy?
0:54 Make Aurochs Graze Again ;)
The only MAGA worth a damn.
I don’t mean to diminish the concept of grooming or anything. But once upon a time we had the nonprofit Big Brothers which did mentorship. It sounds a bit like that? Obviously we can’t say, but that’s the vibes it gives me.
Source is Ken Burns doc
First episode I've seen before I heard, as excited as I am for waco2 in front of my basil garden! 🏡 (FDA is gunnin for us soverien citizens and our vegitation)
Fuckin Larry LETS. GO.
The Boars in South Africa were doin modern insurgent warfare 20 years before Lawrence did.
Boers. YTs not wild pigs.
What's my only waking obsession, my prototypical British Imperialist war hawks?
No, if you're gonna make a weight loss drug for dogs you're gonna call it Ozempaw.
I have found most non-ace people TODAY dont really understand asexuality (usually when i mention im demi-sexual, which is on the ace spectrum), and its actually being talked about today. The idea of discussing asexuality over 100 years ago, seems dumbfounding to imagine. hell, i was a teenager in the 90's and no one even brought up asexuality as a possibility. its was gay straight bi, those were your choices, 20-30 years ago, if you were even told that.
And it's more "Zhapp" than "Gi-ap"
As an autistic person with ADHD: TE Lawrence is me, and I am him
As someone who has been handed defeat after defeat after defeat this past month, let me just respond to the first moments of the podcast with a #LGFM
What's inspiring classic cinema, my internecine diplomatic treaties?!
Almost disliked this for the Dodgers
Love this but also... I feel like... Honestly when white English men were going to these countries they weren't doing it for Gay Rights, it was for like, sex tourism so the framing is a lil weird.
2:20 anderson alert
audio gets better at ~ @12:30
Thank you! Thought my speakers suddenly went on the fritz...
Thank you so much I’m just at the part where Robert starts sounding muffled and I thought I was losing my mind lol
The parents seem almost like a fin-dom situation, which is very modern.
EDIT: I'm pretty sure it's only in America are college and university synonymous. Elsewhere university is the place you learn, and college is the place on campus the students live - what Americans would call a fraternity or sorority. Maybe Canada has the weird American definitions? idk
In the UK it's pretty murky.
You have colleges that are universities, like some of the Oxbridge set, but most Colleges are an interstitial step between state education and university, as well as being a place for adults to return to education and improve their grades.
In Canada, a college is a lower level post-secondary school. You go to University for 4 years to get a degree in math or psychology. You go to college for 1-2 years to get a diploma in massage therapy or police foundations, etc.
@@casanovafunkenstein5090 Okay, so apparently nowhere has a consistent definition of college, lol. I assumed we Australians just used the English system, because that's what we tend to do, and that's how it works with their most famous universities, but apparently there's a whole extra layer of weirdness. It's like public schools all over again, lol.
I just seen the new Twitter status about you Evans. You better stay away from the kids at the Laurelhurst Park.
Is it just me or is Roberts audio fucked up?
Anderson in a sportsball uniform 😍
47:40 one way to think about it is yes, kind of like the Pope, except if the fifth Pope decided to make his position hereditary, and his literal successor actually murders the fuck out of Jesus' grandson, who is loved and revered by a huge proportion of Christendom at the time and still is to this day, and even the side that was nominally on the Pope's side thought he was bad and that you needed a class of scholars and jurists who were independent of the Pope and secular power to offset the Pope's influence, up until the point when all of them were conquered by Martians and are subjected to Martian ideas of the state and religious law- look, the analogy isn't exact, okay?
HOT TAKE:
Larry was just...a guy.
Im just here to see Anderson in costume.
I would listen to Bobby rambling about european amd eastern middpe architecture.
Ok talking abiut unprepared crusaders could be fun too😊
Pretty sure its hospitality as even religious thing.
I mean even a famouse midfle east character jesus talked abiut it.
And i know from greece where violating hodoitality gets you the ire of deities.
But even with sodom.and gomorra, where lot even offers his daughter to keep hodpitality to gender ambivalent angels, and the people , well were really redicilous rapey and, didnt stop.
And violating hospitalicy rites here is a major factor probably why the indifferent ..... ists, also did the grave sin of violating hospitality, and the sodom and gomorra.
Awww dang said no views when I clicked
So you're FRIST!1?11!!
It's not "Vo" it's "Vah"
0:30 what do they taste like?
Dig site pop!
39:50 yeah. no. I get the thing about letting historical figures be morally complex, and I get that his reaction is supposed to be endearing, and I get that it's referencing a Keats sonnet, but, like. no. fuck-FUCK-anyone who writes with dreamy, starry-eyed wonder that that they know what Cortés felt like.
I LIVE NEAR TREMADOG 😂😂😂😂😂
that opening sucked
Uh oh
SNRI club yeah baby 🎉
38:40 I know it's kinda rare that someone from BTB reads & reacts to these comments, but curious if you've considered an internal style guide to differentiate between pazzzphiles and child molzzzers? I only ask because this is the first time where Robert referred to someone as the former ("or he's a _________") and I thought maybe he meant that specific thing and not the other thing. (I also realize in all(?) prior episodes it has meant the latter.) Not that I particularly care, but given that they do mean different things and the latter term may or may not be more censorship friendly in addition to usually being more accurate, thought this seemed worth mentioning. E: Classic "commenting too early" syndrome, didn't realize this was the episode that was going to get into it. I even listened like 15 min past where it was first brought up!
Muadib ursal
Anderson 🐶🐶🐶🐶
As i listen to this i am doing repousse on copper to makw a bronze astragalus.
i identify
ohbthe sports thing yeah i identify. and i get the distaste for stupid rules and teams and results...
now make him gay and this rings me like a bell
A sexeuals, or even demi sexuals man, being gay is such a time less thing, when I go years without any sexual interaction, people ask me all the time.. ARE YOU GAY?
First. LET'S GOOOOOO
I can't look at people with crap like that in their nose.
Then see it as an opportunity to do them a favour by leaving them alone and minding your own business.
of all the things you could complain about in this world and you decide to go to a youtube comment section and choose to be bothered by a nose piercing