Guys, I saw many of the comments where you say that it is better to trade with $1000 live but maybe your math is a bit wrong :) If you achieve 20% on a $1000 live account, you can withdraw $200, right? If you get $10 000 funded account with iFunds (you pay $700) and you make 20%, you can withdraw 1000 ( 50% from the 2000 profit) So it is 5 times better imo, let me know if my math is wrong :) Also, with Xrading.com, I received 1595 (80% of the $2000 profit). Happy Holidays, all!
I made 20% on xrading.com risking 1% per trade as always. You can’t achieve 200% with such risk. Anyway, you always have to trade the way you feel it is right!
@@mattiadelgaldo5030 dude, it's the leverage... especially if you climb up the ladder, you can get much more with your money, than trading just your own money...
lmao your math is funny ok ok lets go with your math, if i lose 10% of my live account i can still trade, if you lose 10% with that model you lost your 1000$ stop the bs this is not funding, you are covering the loss the company is not risking anything here
@tariqboudjella5506, it's all proportionate. If you lose 10% of a $1000 live account, you've lost $100. If I lose 10% in a $10K account, I've lost $1000. The point is, for $1000 I get to trade $10K, and I risk just 1% per trade. But your last point is 100% right: The company is not risking anything here - this is why I hope this model will be more sustainable compared to the Prop Firm bs where all turned to be scam.
Come on bro!! Stop promoting all these nonsense just to get the affiliate profit. If anyone has the 1000 initial capital is better to start trading on a real broker with high leverage and get all the profit instead of sharing it. I have noticed that all companies you are promoting are sketchy and don’t offer any benefit to your viewers. Even most of the EAs that you use are hidden behind an expensive subscription. It is a shame that you manipulate your viewers to pointlessly spend their money.
Hey mate, I get your point BUT what you say is ALMOST correct for small accounts - Check the first comment. Moreover, if you want 100k or 200k, you need to purchase a funded account. At least I don't have such capital for live accounts. And, of course, I need to test the brands first with the small account instead of going big and getting scammed, like what FTMO did to me. Anyways, you are welcome I tested it for you! :) Cheers,
What is the point of sending $1k to some shady prop firm and only have $1k drawdown? It is better to deposit that money to a broker and trade it your way without restrictions and not hope the prop will send you your profits.
It's the equity you want specially if you're only risking 1% R/R. $1000 1R should only be $100 so 2R profit is only $200. But if you can buy a propfirm $10000 2R is $2000. Even if the split was 50/50 you'd be making more money.
I don't really understand the point of using an instant funding platform. Having a 10% drawdown means making a /10 to the capital provided. Trading with a 1000€ personal account is also better because you don't have the profit split
Hello Bro, thanks a lot for sharing your experience. is it considered a capital profit, or a revenue? I mean what is you status. In case of prop firm we are considered as self-employed consultant and the cash inflows are considered as revenue and not capital profit, and if you use prop firm on behalf of a company you get some invoices. so what about those instand funding companies? how did you experience the buying and payout process? thanks a lot for your help
Funy for me if you can calculate this bs you pay 250$ for 2500$ account and you can lose 10% from 2500 so this is 250$.And if your equity lose 10% bye bye 250$ and when you want payout you need to share 50% well not soo good deal imo.
But if you make 10% on the $2500 you make $250 rinse and repeat. If you make 10% on your $250 you've got a whopping $25. Everything is about risk to reward
@@PetkoAleksandrov it's definitely risk. You have to weed through a lot. USA traders don't have much options. I still have tradersway as a test account. They grandfather me in since I'm a 10 year customer.
@jirifrkal8798, because, as I've shown, it works. You can continue trading with scammy prop firms if you choose - I prefer trading with companies that have regulated brokers behind them.
Thanks Petko. My question is do these firms allow you trade with off the shelf Bots or they require you to customize to take unique trades for them to allow you?
You can trade with any EA. There is no need to customize it. You're trading on a real broker's platform, and there are no silly rules like prop firms have
@@PetkoAleksandrov thank you for your response sir. i also wanted to ask if there is a Correlation rule here as well ? like for example if i use the same EA as you, will i get banned from the account ?
How do these work with Dark Algo EA? And which EA's would you recommend with minimal draw down so that 10% isn't reached? Obviously factoring in risk management. I bought Dark Algo and Diomand Forex btw
Yes, they will work with Dark Algo, and other EAs. Of course, you should set up the EA you select to work within the parameters of the challenge and the drawdown rule. It'll be best to ask the developer for a custom set file to suit your exact requirements. I used one of the EAs from the Top 10 Robots app, and set up the account protections, and passed.
I understand, but that's because they're both linked to regulated brokers, unlike most prop firms. Virtually no regulated brokers accept US traders due to the US regulations
No. iFunds.io does not refund the initial account fee upon receiving your first payout. The account fee is non-refundable and grants you access to their funded trading accounts
I haven't hard of anyone hitting the target and staying within the drawdown rule not being paid out. If you have personal experience, please share it with us
The Xrading plan looks interesting with the chance to substantially grow a $1k deposit. I agree with your math, btw. Deposit $1k in either a live or Xrading account, blow the 1K and either account is done for. But growing a $10k acct to $12k is a lot easier than doubling a $1k acct (ignoring the 20% kept by Xrading). And, once the 20% target is reached the Xrading acct becomes risk-free plus having $600 in your pocket.
Have I just watched a third party advert by someone who makes affiliate income from the companies he's promoting.....Better to stick to FTMO than these random here today gone tomorrow companies like these ones.
I get your point, but both these companies are backed by large brokers and liquidity providers. Of course, that doesn't guarantee that they'll stick around for ever, but their model suits me better than prop firms
I talk about it very often. Whenever there is a protection in an EA settings, I show it. and explain how I use it. In fact, this was something we vert deliberately added to the Prop Firm Robots App and Top 10 App
Hi Petko I cant contact you I have created a algo logic program that take trade on ATR basis and its profitable I need some guidance and show you the code
If you withdrew $1600 from your Xtrading account does that not affect your trading balance. After the withdrawal are you still left with a $20,000 account to trade with?
No, you can withdraw your $1600 profit and your original $1000 goes into your $20k account. In effect you can scale up to a $200k account from your original $1k taking profits along the way.
@hoffmann5758, Darwinex is very different from prop firms. You're referring to the risk engine I believe, which in the case of a risky strategy does indeed lower your risk and profits, but in the case of a not risky strategy, can actually increase your profits
Don't trade Forex, you can get 80% to 90% profit split with futures prop firms. Some futures prop firms have recently gone bust just as Forex firms have, so this type of trading is risky.
Sure, you can get 80 or 90% - IF - the prop firm doesn't find a reason not to pay you, or they don't, as you say, go bust. Very few regulated brokers who are backed by legitimate liquidity providers close their doors unexpectedly, and even if they do, because they're regulated, your capital is safe. With prop firms, there is no recourse
But, you can't trade with EAs on most of them, and often, they find reasons not to pay you out. It's a personal choice, but for me, this seems like a better option
@wandilekhumalophiwokhumalo1846, depending on the indicators you want to use - standard MT or custom, you can use EA Studio or FSB Pro with a free 15 day license. No coding is required to automate your strategy
I can't believe you're promoting this nonsense. You clearly know what you're talking about, which makes it obvious this is a scam. People aren't that naive. This is worse than broker bonuses!
Guys, I saw many of the comments where you say that it is better to trade with $1000 live but maybe your math is a bit wrong :) If you achieve 20% on a $1000 live account, you can withdraw $200, right? If you get $10 000 funded account with iFunds (you pay $700) and you make 20%, you can withdraw 1000 ( 50% from the 2000 profit) So it is 5 times better imo, let me know if my math is wrong :) Also, with Xrading.com, I received 1595 (80% of the $2000 profit). Happy Holidays, all!
You are wrong, doing 20% on the funded account is like doing 200% on the live account. Because if you can make 20% with a
I made 20% on xrading.com risking 1% per trade as always. You can’t achieve 200% with such risk. Anyway, you always have to trade the way you feel it is right!
@@mattiadelgaldo5030 dude, it's the leverage... especially if you climb up the ladder, you can get much more with your money, than trading just your own money...
lmao your math is funny ok ok lets go with your math, if i lose 10% of my live account i can still trade, if you lose 10% with that model you lost your 1000$
stop the bs this is not funding, you are covering the loss the company is not risking anything here
@tariqboudjella5506, it's all proportionate. If you lose 10% of a $1000 live account, you've lost $100. If I lose 10% in a $10K account, I've lost $1000. The point is, for $1000 I get to trade $10K, and I risk just 1% per trade. But your last point is 100% right: The company is not risking anything here - this is why I hope this model will be more sustainable compared to the Prop Firm bs where all turned to be scam.
Come on bro!! Stop promoting all these nonsense just to get the affiliate profit. If anyone has the 1000 initial capital is better to start trading on a real broker with high leverage and get all the profit instead of sharing it. I have noticed that all companies you are promoting are sketchy and don’t offer any benefit to your viewers. Even most of the EAs that you use are hidden behind an expensive subscription. It is a shame that you manipulate your viewers to pointlessly spend their money.
Hey mate, I get your point BUT what you say is ALMOST correct for small accounts - Check the first comment. Moreover, if you want 100k or 200k, you need to purchase a funded account. At least I don't have such capital for live accounts. And, of course, I need to test the brands first with the small account instead of going big and getting scammed, like what FTMO did to me. Anyways, you are welcome I tested it for you! :) Cheers,
And then he has the cheek to criticise Ftmo despite quite clearly breaching the rules lol
Anybody that’s always promoting different things is not doing it in the interest of his viewers
21 likes.. I guess people are starting to think and say: enough is enough
I just watch for entertainment I do not do any of the shit he talks about.
What is the point of sending $1k to some shady prop firm and only have $1k drawdown? It is better to deposit that money to a broker and trade it your way without restrictions and not hope the prop will send you your profits.
Hey mate, check out the first comment. Cheers,
It's the equity you want specially if you're only risking 1% R/R. $1000 1R should only be $100 so 2R profit is only $200. But if you can buy a propfirm $10000 2R is $2000. Even if the split was 50/50 you'd be making more money.
I don't really understand the point of using an instant funding platform. Having a 10% drawdown means making a /10 to the capital provided. Trading with a 1000€ personal account is also better because you don't have the profit split
Check the first comment, please :)
There is a prop firm called “Instant Funding” that looks also very similar but it is much cheaper. Would love to see some reviews about them
Hello Bro, thanks a lot for sharing your experience. is it considered a capital profit, or a revenue? I mean what is you status. In case of prop firm we are considered as self-employed consultant and the cash inflows are considered as revenue and not capital profit, and if you use prop firm on behalf of a company you get some invoices. so what about those instand funding companies? how did you experience the buying and payout process? thanks a lot for your help
Funy for me if you can calculate this bs you pay 250$ for 2500$ account and you can lose 10% from 2500 so this is 250$.And if your equity lose 10% bye bye 250$ and when you want payout you need to share 50% well not soo good deal imo.
Check out the first pinned comment:)
But if you make 10% on the $2500 you make $250 rinse and repeat. If you make 10% on your $250 you've got a whopping $25. Everything is about risk to reward
I just signed up for a IFUNDS account, Will see how it goes. Spread seems pretty high, may be due to slow market. Will see on Monday.
USA allow? Grid trading with dolar cost adding for recovery?
Unfortunately, because both platforms are backed by regulated brokers, no US traders are allowed
@PetkoAleksandrov usa traders get screwed. Most off shore brokers won't take us unless we us vpn and bitcoins
That in itself sounds like a scam
@@PetkoAleksandrov it's definitely risk. You have to weed through a lot. USA traders don't have much options. I still have tradersway as a test account. They grandfather me in since I'm a 10 year customer.
With xrading do you really need to hit the 20% before you can get a payout? Because then i dont understand why it is called a instant funding?
It's called instant funding, not instant payout :-). You get an instant $10K account for $1000, albeit with a max drawdown rule
@@PetkoAleksandrov 10k acc for 1k ? 🤣🤣 why the f you're promoting such bs ?
@jirifrkal8798, because, as I've shown, it works. You can continue trading with scammy prop firms if you choose - I prefer trading with companies that have regulated brokers behind them.
Thanks Petko. My question is do these firms allow you trade with off the shelf Bots or they require you to customize to take unique trades for them to allow you?
You can trade with any EA. There is no need to customize it. You're trading on a real broker's platform, and there are no silly rules like prop firms have
8:45 so you only get 50% of the withdrawal? (You withdrew $400 and got $200)
Correct, with iFunds, I can withdraw 50% at any time, not only when a profit target is reached
@@PetkoAleksandrov thank you for your response sir. i also wanted to ask if there is a Correlation rule here as well ? like for example if i use the same EA as you, will i get banned from the account ?
Nope, the only rule is the drawdown rule. You can trade any EA you want to
❤ you doing great job for the industries plz try review more of them
How do these work with Dark Algo EA? And which EA's would you recommend with minimal draw down so that 10% isn't reached? Obviously factoring in risk management. I bought Dark Algo and Diomand Forex btw
Yes, they will work with Dark Algo, and other EAs. Of course, you should set up the EA you select to work within the parameters of the challenge and the drawdown rule. It'll be best to ask the developer for a custom set file to suit your exact requirements. I used one of the EAs from the Top 10 Robots app, and set up the account protections, and passed.
@PetkoAleksandrov OK, thank you.
@PetkoAleksandrov Can you briefly give me an idea of those parameters I want to be as safe as possible
Both these companies do not allow people in the US to have an account. That isn't very pleasant.
I understand, but that's because they're both linked to regulated brokers, unlike most prop firms. Virtually no regulated brokers accept US traders due to the US regulations
Try Instant Funding. They service US traders and you get an 80% profit split.
I like these 2 companies, however - I still prefer Darwinex permanent allocation as they have no drawdown limit. Great video, thank you Petko.
Can we copy the leaderboard trader in ifunds?
I don't believe they offer copy trading
Hi Petko. Is there any way we can contact you directly?
You can email support@eatradingacademy.com
do you get your 700 back when you get the first payout from ifunds?
No. iFunds.io does not refund the initial account fee upon receiving your first payout. The account fee is non-refundable and grants you access to their funded trading accounts
Instant payouts to the affiliates and youtube marketers. 👍
I haven't hard of anyone hitting the target and staying within the drawdown rule not being paid out. If you have personal experience, please share it with us
The Xrading plan looks interesting with the chance to substantially grow a $1k deposit. I agree with your math, btw. Deposit $1k in either a live or Xrading account, blow the 1K and either account is done for. But growing a $10k acct to $12k is a lot easier than doubling a $1k acct (ignoring the 20% kept by Xrading). And, once the 20% target is reached the Xrading acct becomes risk-free plus having $600 in your pocket.
Thanks for your comment. You get it and understand the benefit.
Have I just watched a third party advert by someone who makes affiliate income from the companies he's promoting.....Better to stick to FTMO than these random here today gone tomorrow companies like these ones.
I get your point, but both these companies are backed by large brokers and liquidity providers. Of course, that doesn't guarantee that they'll stick around for ever, but their model suits me better than prop firms
Petko - Why you never talk about account protection EA to make sure you don't blow your account? Do you use one?
I talk about it very often. Whenever there is a protection in an EA settings, I show it. and explain how I use it. In fact, this was something we vert deliberately added to the Prop Firm Robots App and Top 10 App
@@PetkoAleksandrov Can you make a video on that or explain how you are using it?
Here is an example. It's the guide to the Prop Firm Robots App. In it, I discuss the risk and protections: ruclips.net/video/fOwuGnuiBdU/видео.html
How is this better than $1000 real account with 2000 or even unlimited leverage?
If you trade 1k live as 10000 account it will be risky, but I will do some math to calculate if we can simulate it.
Hi Petko
I cant contact you I have created a algo logic program that take trade on ATR basis and its profitable I need some guidance and show you the code
Please email support@eatradingacademy.com or traders@eatradingacademy.com
@@PetkoAleksandrov Hi Petko and Team I have send you an email with program file hope I will get a reply soon and thank you for your guidance
Thanks, but most of the team is away until after the holidays. We'll look at it as soon as possible
Run as fast as you can!
if you dont aim for the very high accounts it makes no sense
But I am aiming to scale all the way to the top
Lovely ❤
ok
now why not using personal acc?
nowdays they give u 1:3000 leverage
without any profit split
so i think u can even make more money
Most brokers that provide leverage bigger that 1:500 are scam. Be careful with that. Regulators do not allow bigger leverage!
@@PetkoAleksandrov im referring fxtm
are they a scamm?
they have all the ragulations
@@PetkoAleksandrov Exness do 1:2000 leverage and all this years they don't seems to scam as such.
@@PetkoAleksandrov With 1:20 leverage is enough.
@@PetkoAleksandrov IC markets provides leverage up to 1:1000 and please don't tell me IC Markets is scam
Both firms don’t accept US traders, that really sucks
Yes, unfortunately. Because both are backed by regulated brokers, they are unable to accept US traders
@PetkoAleksandrov you think the Trump administration will changed things? Biden completely fcuked US traders
If you withdrew $1600 from your Xtrading account does that not affect your trading balance. After the withdrawal are you still left with a $20,000 account to trade with?
No, you can withdraw your $1600 profit and your original $1000 goes into your $20k account. In effect you can scale up to a $200k account from your original $1k taking profits along the way.
@paddingtonbear4104, no. You've hit the target, so the profits in proportion are yours, and you can scale up
@@paddingtonbear4104 if you withdraw 1600 or any money prior to hitting target it has the effect of closing down that incubator account.
XTrading vs Darwinex vs Tentrade... 😊
Darwinex is like prop firm. You make 10% they tell you you didn't 1%, and you finally struggle to make 20€...
None of them. Trade your own capital if you have the 1000usd
@@hoffmann5758 very very true😂😂
@hoffmann5758, Darwinex is very different from prop firms. You're referring to the risk engine I believe, which in the case of a risky strategy does indeed lower your risk and profits, but in the case of a not risky strategy, can actually increase your profits
Don't trade Forex, you can get 80% to 90% profit split with futures prop firms. Some futures prop firms have
recently gone bust just as Forex firms have, so this type of trading is risky.
Sure, you can get 80 or 90% - IF - the prop firm doesn't find a reason not to pay you, or they don't, as you say, go bust.
Very few regulated brokers who are backed by legitimate liquidity providers close their doors unexpectedly, and even if they do, because they're regulated, your capital is safe. With prop firms, there is no recourse
Sir try axi select is so cool
No daily drawdown for Xtrading?
Yes
This man starting fishing the people to be a victim
Actually, I'm presenting an alternative to prop firms, showing 2 companies who work with regulated brokers, where there is real trading going on.
yeaaaa i like this
Me too :-)
No USA clients...bummer
I guess you are used with it... :) I hope soon there will be more brands accepting US traders
@@PetkoAleksandrovwill you review OFP Funding they allow US traders
No USA , cause they are not regulated and could scam you if they want to 😊
🚩🚩🚩🚩
@boyanhvarchilkov8462, actually exactly the opposite. Because they backed by regulated brokers, they cannot allow US traders
I stopped watching when seen it was 1k ffs who is gonna pay that
The same people who try to pass a 200K challenge for the same price. Or those that want to trade with 10K, for 10% of the cost.
please can you help me create a bot
I am not a programmer, but you can give EA Studio or FSB Pro a try with a free 15 day trial license, available on the website
No. I disagree. One step challenges with high DD are way better even if you fail 5 times in a row.
But, you can't trade with EAs on most of them, and often, they find reasons not to pay you out. It's a personal choice, but for me, this seems like a better option
Amazing
Complete BS
You're entitled to your opinion, of course
Hello bro, can you reccomend a good affordable EA coder. I have a powerful strategy that I want to automate.
Dont know if hes affordable for you but I can recommend you one
Can you recommend him to me too please I have a powerful strategy that works 80% win rate
@@matthewadebayo7993 win rate is nothing without a good RR
@wandilekhumalophiwokhumalo1846, depending on the indicators you want to use - standard MT or custom, you can use EA Studio or FSB Pro with a free 15 day license. No coding is required to automate your strategy
I can't believe you're promoting this nonsense. You clearly know what you're talking about, which makes it obvious this is a scam. People aren't that naive. This is worse than broker bonuses!
Is it possible that they paid you out only because you're RUclipsr😅
Sure, it's possible, but I don't believe so. Their model is almost risk free for them, so there's no reason not to pay you, unlike prop firms
Proper ClickBait Video this one 😂
Which part of the video is clickbait, please let me know, i am new to this! :)