+Irate Carolinian Look at the comments though... i don't see the Anti-vaccine proponents anywhere near in the quantities the like / dislike bar suggests. In fact hardly at all. so i think it must be a bot or an Anti-Vaccine group linking followers here to dislike the video.
I'm autistic and honestly, what we really need is acceptance of autistic people- and I know many autistic people agree with me. Medically? It doesn't affect me. Even autistics who are labeled as "low functioning" often don't care about medical research of autism- in fact, most don't. We fear finding a gene for autism would affect us adversely. What we want is acceptance and help for autistic people-especially adults. We've been assaulted, abused, even killed because we don't fit in.
Prince Vegeta That's more a commentary on the parents of the non-autistic children than it is anything else. We need to teach our children (and each other) not to attack people just for being different.
***** You clearly have no idea how Vaccines work. They inject DEAD cells of the virus which your immune system can take down easily, thus building up a proper immunity to the desiese in question.
The Nightmare Rider Only some vaccines use dead viruses (like the IPV), others use inactivated/damaged forms of the virus. It is possible, but VERY unlikely to get measles from the MMR shot (less than 1:1 million).
Stuart Spence He doesn't believe or respect the thousands of parents with RUclips videos who insist vaccines caused their child's injury. I trust them because the liability would now be huge if the CDC admitted they were wrong and covered things up. In 1960, two thirds of doctors said cigarettes were not dangerous.
Only a lying cia pharma troll idiot would say what you said. No amount of Mercury is safe to inject. The amount of mercury those insane lunatics inject would be illegal if it was in a can of tuna fish!!!! The amount allowed in a can of tuna is 250 ppb is the norm in tuna. 2 ppb allowed in water by the EPA. 500 ppb in the norm on a can of white fish. And 51,000 ppb found in 1 flu shot. Also thimerisol is a cancer causing agent. When a full dose of thimerisol alone used to treat something that won't heal,the doctor makes you sign a paper stating that you will not have unprotected sex while on it with photographs. It causes deformaties. Babies can be born with no arms or legs or they are monster like. Squaulene is a parlaysing agent that use to be used in face creams. MSG do not inject.Go ahead if your that fucking stupid!!! Aluminum only a brain dead moron would inject!!! The chemicals in shots can cause serious or bad health effects that may not show up until years later.
DM584 I wouldn't want to be a child in your care. I've seen kids go autistic after shots. You probably know such cases too. Yet you somehow can't believe a system can get away with lies when the cigarette and asbestos and hair dye (an ongoing lie) industries bullied doctors for decades into saying they were not harmful
DM584 - But scientists only found asbestos and tobacco and DDT and Teflon to be dangerous when the political climate allowed them to. Common sense has to prevail until then. Don't be dying your hair often. I predict these hair brained scientists will soon suddenly find the dyes aren't safe after all. Like duh ;)
***** Fecal bacteria found on 72% of shopping carts... blogs.webmd.com/breaking-news/2011/03/fecal-bacteria-on-72-of-shopping-carts.html In other words, people are pigs!
hygiene was seriously considered, taught and practiced in the late 1800's and that is when disease rates and polio dropped, then vaccines were produced much later. You can find this information anywhere.
THERUBBISHPCKID You're just a idiot who likes to blame his/her short coming on autism. When reality is you probably have uneducated social assistance abusing drunken soccer hooligan parents who try to burn down Wembley stadium every year, and you just don't know any better. *Better luck next time troll*
cantryss im not a troll and u seem like what u just said about me to be fare typing abuse over the internet and unless u have proof that autism is genetic then I am really not going to listen to u
cantryss no not exactly my autism cant just go away I have it for life and I cant change that and anyway what the fuck do u know about it cuz im presuming by that last sentence you don't have it and to me you can try to studie or understand it all u like but u can never truly feel the struggle and the amazingness of having autism unless you actually have it cuz to me its a curse and a gift a curse to be a total social outcast and feel completely like an outsider but yet the gift to see the world through a truly different and amazing perspective
THERUBBISHPCKID I know it's not caused by medication, but rather genetics with the roll of the dice chance of happening. Assuming you do have it, I have no problem with it. If you have this amazing perspective embrace it. However contrary to what you've been told this condition doesn't happen because of inoculation. It happened through genetics. Also you want to say something about me typing abuse over the internet when you replied to my original comment calling me a dick? Autism, or not don't hide behind things.
THERUBBISHPCKID Scientists discovered that unborn babies showed signs of autism when using ultrasound. Also some of the oldest documented cases of autism go back as far as the 1700's. Before there were such things as vaccines. Genetic enough for you?
Mary Gragg Yes, you know more than the medical professional that spends his life doing medicine, and all others. You're so confident in your knowledge, that you're willing to link to research backing you up in your first comment so that you don't seem like a lying idiot. Not.
The 6,073 people who disliked this probably only came here to do so: Give it a thumbs down. They probably didn't even watch one minute of it. If vaccines were so dangerous, they wouldn't be available.
If vaccines were so safe the US government would not have taken liability away from the vaccine manufactures as they did in 1986 to present March 2020. As of 1986 you can no longer sue a vaccine manufacture for vaccine injury. You have to sue the US vaccine court. With no liability the vaccine manufactures have made more vaccines mandatory and they are much less safe. In 2016 there were over 59,000 vaccine adverse events reported to through the VAERS reporting system. This included over 400 deaths and 1,300 permanent disabilities. Harvard Medical was asked to look into the VAERS reporting system to see how well it worked and concluded that less than 1% of adverse events were actually reported. Is it possible that there are 40,000 plus deaths each year from vaccines with over 130,000 permanent disabilities. The CDC claims they don't know but the risk of severe reaction is low. The CDC also happens to receive billions every year from the sale off vaccines. Can you spell conflict of interest. Why would we believe anything they say especially when all the evidence points to the opposite of what they say?
@@holisticpoet Thats in accurate, the liability is taken away because vaccines are a public health initiative. Also your claims about suing are absurd, there is a small amount of money put aside from every vaccine deployed for compensation, due to such low rates of serious injury the payouts are very very large and only require evidence that the vaccine caused the injury. Your entire speel is nothing but cherry picked information taken out of context for shock value, you should be ashamed of yourself. No one is going to report a mild inflammation around the site of the vaccination, since this amounts to almost all of the adverse events of course only a small number are actually recorded, you are such a dishonest person. There are between 0 - 6 deaths from vaccination in recorded history, Ill say that again BETWEEN ZERO AND 6 DEATHS OVER THE HISTORY OF VACCINATION. As for permanent disability again you are just making stuff up, looking at your numbers its likely you misread vaccines have prevented these deaths and permanent injury. There is no evidence pointing the opposite direction, shut the fuck up you ignorant selfish child murdering liar.
ll .fleischer I believe he's making a joke based on Pastafarianism. The guy who created it created a graph to show that the world temperature is going up while pirates are decreasing, meaning that the lack of pirates is causing global warming. He was trying to demonstrate that correlation doesn't equal causation.
If you’re going to make a joke out of something affecting more than 1 in 50 U.S. children, and leaving many non-verbal and incapable of ever caring for themselves, at least make it remotely funny.
Could you do a video describing the cost/benefit analysis of vaccines? Way too often, I see people attacking vaccines on various grounds; not just the autism issue. I would love to have a go-to video on vaccines in general, and I think the clear-cut reasonable style offered here would be an excellent way to do it. I know it's a big topic, but a concise rebuttal to those awful claims would be very helpful and would do a lot of good. Currently, I refer people to the blog science-based medicine, which is excellent. But that's a text-based site and most people don't seem to have the patience for it. If a nice concise video has been done, refer me to it... if not, I think Healthcare Triage could do a wonderful job of it. All much appreciated.
"But that's a text-based site and most people don't seem to have the patience for it." Yeah, pff. Who needs detail and accuracy in science, right? Words? How silly, I can just stick to my comfortable Dr. Oz and random news articles that tell me to put magnets on my feet.
Vulcapyro You're right and people should dig deeper on important health-related issues. But it's difficult to fight the sensationalistic fear-mongering of a Dr. Oz with lengthy articles. A video presenting the basic facts will sway a lot of people, and a site like science-based medicine can back up the basic information for those who want to invest some real time and effort.
@Ninja Chicken Yeah. Never mind the court cases that have been settled involving autism and vaccines. Or, the CDC’s own Senior Scientist now admitting studies were manipulated when they showed a causal association. Or, the DOJ’s top autism expert releasing a sworn affidavit that vaccines do cause autism in certain children. Forget the studies from Exley, Yale and Duke University. Just keep listening o this idiot coward who hides behind his one-sided videos.
I'm pretty sure I started displaying symptoms well before my vaccinations, because my mom was scared and I got them late. Also, autism is very very preferable to dying of the measles, and I'm glad I was vaccinated. Seriously, autistic is far from the worst thing your kid could turn out to be. For instance, they could be the type of ableist jerks that don't vax their kids.
Exactly. People always want an easy answer or scapegoat for something, but it’s not always that simple. And that 1998 study was proven fraudulent as it was discovered Wakefield embellished many details of it (the kids were never actually diagnosed with autism, only 1 was I think, and they started showing signs even before they got vaccinated).
@@RYMAN1321 You’re right. It wasn’t research at all. It was coffee morning gossip. I would expect the 12 year-olds in my Year 8 class to be more thorough and honest when presenting a science report.
@Karen Iris Thank you Karen, your words of philosophy are no match against the simple minds that surround you for you are messiah, the chosen one who is destined for greatness and to lead us all through the afterlife and beyond. My prays will no longer go unanswered for Karen is there to answer them! Thank you Karen, I can not express the joy and the thrill I am having to even be in your presence. You are the almighty. Baptize me with all my incorrect ideologies for you can enlighten me. Karen.
I shared your video and it started a firestorm on my Facebook page. I had no idea people were so generally distrusting of vaccines and the medical profession. So I spent the afternoon calmly talking about double blind trials and the general good intentions of doctors. Thank you for making this video and sharing your perspective. I value your knowledge.
They were back for about 2 weeks and dissappeared again. I wouldn't at all be surprised if the measles outbreak was a planned event by the pharmaceutical companies to justify forcing people to have their innocent children injected without further delay rather than waiting until even ONE actual scientific study that proves without doubt that these vaccines in these quantities in such a short span of time to NEWBORNS who typically have immunity fr their mother automatically unless someone like these profit hungry psychos forcibly inject neuro toxic DNA altering chemicals in frequent regular intervals up to age 6. Are YOU FUCKING INSANE ?? What set of parents with the combined IQ of a potatoe would subject their own child at birth to such an obvious attempt to both increase profit but also force the sacrifice against the genetically vulnerable. I will not destroy my children's lives to help achieve this irrational evil agenda.
Paws4Mercy .... the incidence of measles has risen since the anti vax movement not reduced last yer there were over 6 hundred cases and this year looks like it will be almost as bad here is a graph www.cdc.gov/measles/images/measles-cases-616px.png
@@hiimpeyton671 I love how you view this disorder, not as a "disease", but as a thing that makes you, you! I have autism too and I sometimes struggle with people viewing it like it's a problem, but in my opinion autism gives people so much more personality!
considering the risk of serious harm from measles is about 1/1000, and a third of autistic people are non verbal, i would definitely rather my kid got measles than autism. luckily vaccines don't cause autism.
@@eeeaten Nearly 1 to 3 of every 1,000 children who become infected with measles will die from respiratory and neurologic complications. I hope you never have chuldren
@@hiimpeyton671 in western countries with good healthcare it’s more like 1 in 2000 or more, so the chance of serious harm from measles _if infected_ is quite low compared to the 1 in 3 autistic kids who are non verbal. It’s a question of relative risk, not of choosing one possible outcome over another. Don’t say stupid stuff like you hope I never have children. That’s just childish.
India has the largest number of autistic children (851,000), followed by China (422,000), Nigeria (207,000), and Indonesia (159,000). Vaccination rates are often low in these regions, further refuting already debunked claims about a link between vaccines and autism.
Lmao India and China have the biggest pops in the world, of course they're gonna have larger numbers. If you compare autism rates, America's is SIGNIFICANTLY higher
@@llamajoeteam India has an autism rate of 88.50, whereas the United States is rated 80.90 in Autism rates (so India is much higher in Autism Rates than the US despite India having much lower vaccination rates than the US). China, on the other hand, has an autism rate of........................................................... 79.70. The US autism rates of 80.90 is not exactly "SIGNIFICANTLY higher" than 79.70. If vaccines did cause autism, the US (one of the highest vaccinated countries) should be significantly than China (which are much lower). You neglected to include Nigeria which has an autism rate of 82.90 (higher than the US) and Indonesia which has 83.60 (still higher than the US) in your response. This is despite Nigeria and Indonesia having low vaccination rates. worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/autism-rates-by-country
There's going to be a screening of Vaxxed next week in my town. I'm honestly considering going there and holding up signs showing kids in Iron lungs and dying from preventable diseases.
Here are four ways autistic conditions are caused and confirmed by statements from the current President of pharmaceutical giant Merck's Vaccines Division, by US Government agencies, by the US Federal Court and in formally published academic journal papers. If you read nothing else I strongly recommend you read this PDF Download - [Text of May 5th 2008 email from US HRSA to Sharyl Attkisson of CBS News]. In it the US Health Resources Services Administration [HRSA] state to CBS News reporter Sharyl Attkisson "We have compensated cases in which children exhibited an encephalopathy, or general brain disease. Encephalopathy may be accompanied by a medical progression of an array of symptoms including autistic behavior, autism, or seizures." childhealthsafety.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/attkisson-cbs-hrsa-email-exchanges-autistic-conditions-vaccines.pdf Vaccine induced encephalopathy can lead to both autistic behavior and autism. It's the same difference only they are using word salad. They can't conceivably concede that vaccines cause encephalopathy but cannot ever cause autism because that would be impossible. Encephalopathy can result in autistic behavior and autism. Vaccines cause autism.
I'm autistic. And I'm vaccinated. Even if the vaccines caused the autisim (which they didn't) I would still rather be vaccinated and autistic than neither.
@Steve Weldon A lot of research is being done on autism, OFC!. And is published all the time every time they find relevant things. And a lot of the evidence seems to point to the same direction: that autism starts to develop in the womb, it's genetic. Not, definitely not because of vaccines or "myriad" of vaccines.
Missy Minx Have you considered that the parents took the MMR and that it genetically mixed with their DNA? I'm not saying it's true but it is a possibility. MMR was introduced in 1971 so people took that okay, and different generations continued taking it afterwards. Then in 1989, the second dose was introduced in 1989 just in time for the outbreak 1989-1991, so for sure people would be all scared and went ahead and took that second dose. So that's double the dose that people took. Now say those people start having babies after they received both doses of MMR. What if there was something in the MMR at that time that was able to alter the DNA in the baby while in the womb? Maybe thimerisol or maybe even Bovine Serum Albumin? They are both toxic. BSA actually contain lead, which is leading cause of learning and behavior disorders. Oh yeah and other vaccines contained BSA so more of a possibility of lead-poisoning. I am not saying any of this is true but it could be possible out of many possibilities. The only way to find out is to have further studies.
***** First of all, that's not how vaccines work. Secondly, that's not how DNA works. Thirdly, that's not how lead poisons. You are in dire need of remedial science education.
Daniel T Is that so? then enlighten me please. How exactly do vaccines work? Only scientist know themselves and I doubt you are. How does DNA work? How does lead poison work? Bovine Serum Albumin is toxic look that shit up yourself, because BSA is present in most vaccines. And what do you know most people were vaccinated. But like I said please enlighten me. Do note that this could be a possibility not a fact, unless you scientifically prove me wrong then I'll be sorry for thinking of any possibilities. We live in a world where anything is possible.
***** Body flushes out any vaccine delivery chemical injected into you within 4 weeks of the shot being given; for those type of people there is a spray version of the vaccine. Also if you go to the centre for disease control and prevention, it tells you to never take any vaccine (shot-based) if you're pregnant. So if their Doctor has given them a shot when pregnant, then they need a serious re-education.
2DRonaldo flushes them out, yes but they do not know how much of these toxins are retained in the glands etc because they do not look. Sure they can check to see if there are any toxins in urine feces and blood, but just because they are no longer in the urine or blood does not mean that they have not accumulated in the pineal gland etc. This is how bad the science is and its what people use to suggest that it is safe to inject carcinogens into infants. This negligence and ignorance and lacks any rigor of conduct. We cannot pretend that the human body is a simple garbage disposal unit, what goes in comes out. You put something into the body, it will do its very best to flush it out. But to not check for residues in tissue bone or glands is clearly negligence/malpractice.
A follow-up video might mention the prevalence of MMR; I get why you couldn't delve into specifics in this one, but it'd be good to know what the costs of not getting vaccinated are.
More likely to get measles, mumps, and rubella. Not vaccinating your kids could lead to: www.brecorder.com/images/2013/01/measles.jpg pathmicro.med.sc.edu/mhunt/rubel2.jpg Not good.
@@ysc_josh Polio had sharply declined by the time the polio vaccine was introduced. Better hygiene, cleaner food and water and refrigeration has done more for reducing death than any vaccine has. Vaccines are a liability-free cash cow for big pharma. The media sells fear and you buy the vaccines.
I don't care if adults don't get vaccinated for the wrong reasons. It's kinda sad, but at some point people are responsible for their own stupidity. Kids on the other hand can't and shouldn't have a say in this matter and if adults make stupid decisions about their lives I get really angry.
I also don't like when kids get fed terribly by their parents, however, I leave them to their own personal freedom, or stupidity, or however you want to perceive it. I certainly don't assume the right to tell them what to do.
garreth davis Yes, but whether or not my child is fat has no impact on your child. My child's fatness won't leech on to your child. Whooping cough, on the other hand, is contagious. Imagine: Your child (too young to be vaccinated, whether or not you plan on vaccinating him / her) contracts whooping cough from a child who is old enough to be vaccinated but isn't. Your child then dies from said whooping cough infection. Suddenly is seems relevant whether or not the other child was vaccinated, no?
When it comes to Autism, and similar "disabilities" *spits in disgust at such a word* such as Aspergers Syndrome, *you're either born with it or you're born without it*. I had to spend most of my childhood from 1994 (Age 6, Year 1 Primary) through to 2003 (Age 15, Year 10 Secondary) bouncing from paediatrician to paediatrician around Sydney (I was living down near Canberra at the time), spending a fair chunk of my schooling years at Royal Far West up at Manly, as my mother kept wanting the docs to "diagnose" me with ADD or ADHD so she could drug the fuck out of me, pretty much every single doctor who saw me said I had no signs of ADD or ADHD but that I *have* Aspergers Syndrome. Since then, it's been basically confirmed every male on my dad's side of the family for at least his generation and mine (and we suspect my grandfather had it as well, but he passed in 2002) have AS in some form or another, and any biological child of mine will either have it active or probably be a carrier for it.
Healthcare Triage Talking about Vaccines and Autism is like talking about Gun Control. It normally unleashes the hounds of psychosis. It is a testament to how good this video is that your comment section isn't nothing but hatred and bile.
As medical students who returned after chiropractic school, we have had our fair share of debates on this topic. It is exhausting searching for evidence to persuade those who do not seem to value evidence or the scientific method. Thank you for this simple and concise explanation that will save me some trouble when I inevitably engage in another debate.
This reminded me of a quote from Sam Harris. I can't remember it exactly but it was something like this: If someone doesn't value facts and evidence, reason and logic, what evidence or logic could you present to persuade them? A difficult question to be sure.
+Aziraphale686 Sam Harrris is brilliant and now that you mention it that quote sounds familiar. These days defending science is often not fashionable in media. So when you see individuals like Sam Harris or Neil deGrasee Tyson taking up that mantle in the public space it is encouraging.
What's sad is I know families that don't get vaccines SPECIFICALLY because of thus paper. All vaccines. There have been two outbreaks of whooping cough in the Fraser Valley, BC, Canada because of parents not immunizing their kids.
While everyone's passionate about this MMR vaccine issue, I thought I throw out there that the lack of HPV vaccine vaccination is also a big issue. It's a shame
HPV is LEAST STUDIED and the MOST POINTLESS vaccine that had ever been created. They don't even know how long the vaccinations lasts and only some have guessed 4-5 years at the MOST. Many women have died from this nasty vaccine and even some have had horrible siezures and even be report linking women to ovarian failure. Most pointless vaccine pushed through by the industry that is BIG Pharma. Lies and deceit.
I was diagnosed with autism when I was two and it has changed my life forever.. My dreams of being a normal kid is over.. My brother told me I got autism from a vaccine shot so I looked this up.It makes me so mad that all these other kids are so much different from me.. Also on top of my autism i have ADHD so it's really hard to do things in school and pay attention. To ANYBODY who has this like me. It's okay, we are all different. I am with you and we are with you. it's okay to be different, and anybody who tells you otherwise is wrong. stay strong!
you were diagnosed when yoh were 2 man, that means you got the help you need and didnt grow up even more confused and more socially restricted. a dr. diagnosed you, i should add. without your pediatrician's decisions you would not have lived to even right this post. those guys have your best interests at heart. they took an oath. they arn't there to hurt you and neither are vaccines.
Coming from a family of doctors, brother, mother, father, and as a parent of 3 healthy children, I am shocked and appalled at the amount of seemingly intelligent people willing to put their kids and mine at risk by not vaccinating. These people must be shunned. I just don't understand how anyone can see the overwhelming amount of data that completely refutes the notion of a link to Autism from vaccines and simply ignore it. The good thing to come of this "debate" is we now know for certain what doesn't cause Autism.
As an Aspie, every time I hear an argument about how vaccine supposedly causes autism, I cannot help but hear it as, not an anti-vaccine argument, but rather as an anti-autism argument. And, truth to be told, that bothers me _a lot_ more than whether people are right or wrong about vaccine causing autism.
I think you answered your own question. Though over-diagnosing is part of the problem. And perhaps the medical community hasn't done the best job explaining to the public that autism covers a wide spectrum of disorders. The "increase" in autism is a combination of better diagnosis, over-diagnosis and the reclassification of certain disorders as part of the Autism spectrum (see Asperger's).
My uncle refused to have his children vaccinated. Much of the household got whooping cough. Afterward one of the younger children got RSV. Her immune system was so weak from the whooping cough that what should have been a cold or maybe pneumonia turned into 5 weeks in children's and part of that time in a medically induced coma. Vaccinations are administered to keep children healthy. The childhood diseases we vaccinate for can kill.
so sorry about your cousin :-< Thank you for sharing this - it's worth it if even ONE person decides to vaccinate after all because they read your story.
More accurately, it explains that in the case of the MMR scare, there wasn't even a correlation at all. Mentioning the name "Andrew Wakefield" to anyone in the NHS is a surefire way to get them to break whatever they're holding.
I don't think you understand what point I was going for. Yes, while the video does detail the MMR vaccine scare, I was trying to reference the more top level, wider impact point.
Hunter Willis I'm certainly not disagreeing about the Correlation =/=causation point, but what I find most horrifying about the MMR case is that there wasn't even a correlation - it was almost completely fabricated. The dark irony behind the whole thing was that as far as I'm aware, at no point has Wakefield suggested that children not receive vaccinations or be vaccinated against MMR. His suggestion was merely to return to the individual separate vaccinations (for which some investigative journalism has suggested he had a financial interest in).
Welcome to the world of today. Any publicity will earn you money. Lots and lots of money. I mean I'm 17 and am disgusted about how most of my peers act and dream. I agree 100% with your point about the MMR being a complete hoax, but that's how you make money today. As I was saying, I am a self taught web developer and work on real projects and do my own, but so many times I'll get disregarded or belittled because I'm young, not because of talent. And this is all because people crave publicity for cash. If we all just were gears in the system, providing our pieces, it will work. Yes, we're all unique, but that doesn't mean you're smart and know what you're doing. The attention clings to idiots, and since money goes to the attention, there is a vicious cycle.
Well even if they do, I’m autistic and I’ve never seen it as a disadvantage. So still get it. I honestly enjoy seeing the world differently than everyone else
@Hi I’m Peyton! I see this comment from so many people, As many as 40% of children with ASD are non-verbal. Many will spend their lives in diapers and. will be unable to care for themselves. I have worked with autistic children, and feel terrible for children on the low end of the spectrum. I know some remarkable kids with Autism who stay positive and do very well. But, they are more of an exception than the norm, and comments like these are one reason why the rapid rise in autism is still ignored by politicians and society in general. It’s as if people want to pretend the ugly side of autism doesn’t exist.
@Hi I'm Peyton! Responsible adults teach kids how to do things for themselves. Spoiled children wait for an adult to do things for them. Don’t be a spoiled child. Type it in a search.
The number of ice cream sales increase in summer and so does the amount of cases of hay fever. Does ice cream cause hay fever? No, correlation and cause are different ...
You forgot to mention something... Specifically the something wherein the doctor that pushed for MMR vaccines to be banned was doing so because he wanted to force a single vaccine method instead... Which he had already pushed a patent on.
@@Kinergetics your precious Wakefield has already lost his ability to practice medicine almost anywhere in the world oh, because he lied. And now here you are, lying for him, not even realizing you've been duped. You're that stupid.
@@TacComControl You are so easily conned! I have done more research on Wakefield than most doctors have done on vaccines. Are you too stupid to do your own research?
As a neuropsychologist and former professor of research methods and statistics, I have to say that the concept of correlation in no way equals causation is easily the largest hurdle to making good decisions about pretty much anything. This video is just one powerful example of this problem. The power of human emotion is so great (and it always has been) that we are willing to accept simple associations as reasons for almost any kind of illness or behavior instead of bravely stepping up and exploring the scientific method to shed light on whatever the issue is. Good research can sometimes tell us what the truth is, and more importantly, it can tell us when we don't know the truth. I think teaching people (and convincing people) to become critical consumers of "science", of political claims, of business marketing etc., is just as important as vaccinations. Thanks so much for sharing these videos. Chris
Yep but you dare go against the narrative, you become ostracised. There is no free talk about vaccines, Corona proves it.. Try and be critical, you'll get regurgitated nonsense from above, most drs are owned by the CDC or in the uk HCPC, basically gagged. There is no one truth, just perception. The fact you CANNOT debate against the narrative, is THE cause for concern.
Even if vaccines COULD cause autism, what kind of parent would prefer that their child died from measles-induced meningitis or became crippled from polio rather than become autistic?
Even if it does cause autism, what's so bad about it? I'm autistic and I'm 100% normal. I don't know why people were freaking out about it. The way people think of autism really makes me upset.
Steve Schempp I know a lot of autistic kids. 2 of them (ages 10 and 12) are still in diapers and will likely never speak. Not everyone is high-functioning. Kids, on the low end of the spectrum, would not agree with your comment.
Steve Schempp That’s good. So is my son. But, I feel for these kids who aren’t. They appear to be in a constant state of discomfort. I don’t think we should ever diminish Autism. Doing so will only decrease public awareness.
Healthcare Triage You guys are awesome, and I'm glad you finally covered this topic! Where I live, there is a small movement of people who are anti-vaccination, and as a result we have one of the highest cases of whooping cough fatalities in infants in the country. Would you, in the future, cover the importance of both adults and children taking the whooping cough vaccine?
Healthcare Triage is pap. And gosh, wouldn't it be great to blame anti-vaxxers for the whooping cough outbreak and actually be right? But the fact is that most of the pertussis deaths are in heavily vaccinated areas among heavily vaccinated babies and families, and the vaccine is failing to protect them. www.smartvax.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=56&Itemid=43 On the other hand, per the CDC, the risk of a child developing asthma from the DTaP vaccine is greater than 1 in 13. Hey, at least it's good for something! www.smartvax.com/images/PDF/cdc%20-%20childhood%20vaccinations%20and%20risk%20of%20asthma.pdf Depending on your source, between 9 and several hundred babies have died of pertussis in the U.S. in the past year (actually, no one is saying the number is that high). Let's say the number is actually something outrageous like 1000. The number of asthma deaths per year is growing by the year and was 3,404 in 2010 (again per the CDC. www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/asthma.htm). If I'm a parent who can do math, I'll do some further research before I consider that a good risk/reward ratio for vaccination of my baby with DTaP, especially if I consider the growing evidence (www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20193633) of scores of auto-immune disorders associated with vaccines.
Interesting - when there was a whooping cough epidemic where I live the vaccinated children caught it. None of the vaccine free children contracted the cough. Very small seaside town, we did not keep them separate or hang out in cliques. This does not necessarily mean anything I simply found it intriguing at the time. Also the vaccination schedule in the country I live is 6weeks, 3 months, 5 months, 18months and onwards. The high rates of SIDS in this country occur at 6weeks, 3 months, 6 months. I don't have a barrow to push with this and I am not an epidemiologist or a biochemist I'm just interested in the conversation. My kids are grown now. What I don't appreciate is the name calling,and insults. This is a really important conversation to be having. Informed decision making means researching as many perspectives of an issues as one can. Simply going along with vaccination because your physician recommended it is not informed consent. Great conversation - I believe in passionate objectivity. You need to be able to argue a point from both sides in order to fully refute the side you disagree with.
Look up the article bellow this is very strong evidence that vaccines with aborted cell lines do give people autism and freemartins disease . Injecting yourself with genetic fetal tissue via vaccine will cause freemartins disease and autism. Bellow that is an extended list of aborted fetal cell lines used in vaccines. Blood chimerism in a girl with Down syndrome and possible freemartin effect leading to aplasia of the Müllerian derivatives N. Bogdanova, U. Siebers, R. Kelsch, A. Markoff, A. Röpke, R. Exeler, J. Tsokas, P. Wieacker Human Reproduction, Volume 25, Issue 5, May 2010, Pages 1339-1343, doi.org/10.1093/humrep/deq048 Published: 26 February 2010 Article history Vaccines produced using aborted fetuses The most widely used fetal cells are WI-38 and MRC-5. The WI-38 cells were derived by Leonard Hayflick in 1962 from the lung of a 3-month female fetus [2]. The initials WI refer to the Wistar Institute, a body of the University of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia, and number 38 to the fetus from which the cells were obtained. The MRC-5 cells were obtained in 1966 from the lungs of a 14-week male fetus [3]. The initials MRC indicate Medical Research Council, a body from London. Other cells derived from surgically-aborted foetuses are: WI-1, WI-3, WI-11, WI-16, WI-18, WI-19, WI-23, WI-24, WI-25, WI-26, WI-27, WI-44, MRC-9, IMR-90, and R-17 (obtained from lung); WI-2, WI-12 and WI-20, (skin and muscle); WI-5 (muscle); WI-8 and WI-14, and WS1 (skin); WI-4, WI-9, WI-10, WI-13 and WI-15 (kidney); WI-6, WI-21 and WI-22 (heart); WI-7 (thymus and thyroids), WI-17 (liver); FHs74Int (small intestine); and PER.C6 (retina)1.
I agree this is true for a big majority of the population, but the problem is that even if a small minority, say 10%, continue to believe the myth, we no longer have necessary levels of vaccination for herd immunity.
Jasper Schmidt Because it's not just ONE guy. Say the 1 person has 10 friends, and 2 children, and each of his 10 friends has 2 children. if his 2 kids don't get vaccinated, and they convince 1 friend to not vaccinate, and that person convinces one person, and that person convinces 1 person, it quickly turns into 100s of kids who aren't vaccinated- which leads to a small hole in the herd immunity, which will, and HAS lead to the death of children who were too young to receive vaccines, or had immune system weaknesses that prevented them from receiving the vaccines, or adults with compromised immune systems. Not vaccinating your child will lead to the death of some else's child. Why would anyone ever think that is an okay thing?
Jasper Schmidt No getting vaccinated means YOU are more likely to infect a kid who was allergic to the vaccine or was just "not vaccinated" because of parental objections. And kids catching polio or measles means dead kids.
But wait I just heard elsewhere that we don’t actually known if the Autism rate is increasing it’s just that we are increasing diagnosis of Autism because we are finding better methods to diagnose Autism. It said that Autism is still very complicated and we don’t really know what causes it, there is just a bunch of speculations
When my teen son got vaccinated, a week later he started developing spots, he started getting hairier, wetting the bed, getting moodier, oggling at girls even more and spent even more time locked in his room doing god knows what. We gotta stop the vaccines quick, quick!
hope social services take your child away from you. and to add onto a point your child is fucking developing and it just correlates with the vaccination
So logical. So clear. Thank you. I hope that research figures out why we're seeing such a surge in the numbers of people with autism. I certainly hope it and related syndromes prove to be preventable and/or curable.
I already know the answer: This society, this lifestyle we have today. We haven't adapted to this world we live in. Evolution is very slow. That's why there are so many mental illnesses. But that's just my thoughts on it, from a person with a mild form of kanner syndrome or classical autism, however you want to call it.
+Zeyev There was a large increase in autism cases because people are getting better at diagnosing it. There is a smaller amount of cases of mental retardation because many cases are being renamed as autism.
I don't think it's so much as surge as it is either overdiagnosing or that we're getting better at recognizing it. In the former case, signs are just misinterpreted as something else. I went through five diagnoses of various mental disorders before we landed on autism, and now I'm finding that I may not be autistic at all. Go figure
It’s not about whether it’s good or bad. Get your feeling out of it. It’s the fact that big pharma is getting away with injuring millions of kids! No one wants to challenge them because of “vaccines”.
@@MentalWarrior4GOD11 Lol they didn't deem vaccines unavoidably unsafe, idiot. The language in the Bruesewitz v. Wyeth case literally just meant that the vaccine manufacturers aren't liable if there are any side effects. The family that sued wasn't able to prove a link between their daughter's disabilities and her vaccinations, because there is none. Again, the case only concluded that manufacturers aren't liable for any side effects if they give proper warning. It never states that vaccines are "unavoidably unsafe". Look into it! And stop believing the nonsense you read on Facebook.
@@shreddy5050 "An unavoidably unsafe product isn't necessarily by its nature dangerous. Rather, it's a product that is incapable of being made safe for its intended and ordinary use. ... For drugs or vaccines, the product can't be adulterated and it must work as intended."www.findlaw.com/injury/product-liability/what-is-an-unavoidably-unsafe-product.html#:~:text=An%20unavoidably%20unsafe%20product%20isn,its%20intended%20and%20ordinary%20use.&text=For%20drugs%20or%20vaccines%2C%20the,it%20must%20work%20as%20intended. “No vaccine manufacturer shall be liable in a civil action for damages arising from a vaccine-related injury or death associated with the administration of a vaccine after October 1, 1988, if the injury or death resulted from side effects that were unavoidable even though the vaccine was properly prepared and was accompanied by proper directions and warnings.” www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/10pdf/09-152.pdf Take the vaccine and stfu!
Thank you for your ongoing efforts to educate the public on important matters Dr. Carroll. As a graduate clinician in Speech-Language Pathology, I can wholeheartedly say that this particular video is fantastic for informing concerned parents given the fear mongering of the infamously flawed study..
No they definitely aren't! Because people who say the vaccine causes autism are the same people who happily discriminate against people with autism. Why else would they say "vaccines cause autism" like it's a bad thing??
The vaccine debt doesn't work with me. My daughter has autism and she has NEVER had a vaccine in her life. She had signs of autism and was diagnosed BEFORE she ever had a single vaccine. I opted out of vaccines because of her seizure history (Before we knew she was autistic). My other children are completely vaccinated and never had an issue. You need to vaccinate your kids unless there is a legit medical concern. Also, if you are a part of any genetic research project such as myself, you will see there is a specific mutated gene that has been studied for the past couple of years. I can't remember the name if the gene (that's not why I was a part of a study) but if you research it yourself, you'll find it.
What about the literally thousands of people who say, my child was fine developmentally. Perfectly normal, insightful, intelligent, active. My child received a vaccine and that night, started acting strangely, stopped making eye contact, stopped speaking words. 5 years later, my child is diagnosed with Autism. He/she has never been the same since the vaccination? What do you say to these people?
+PolymathX I would say that it could be a coincidence, (a correlation and not a causation), and that your personal testimony isn't going to convince someone like me because it falls short of actual evidence. Believe what you want, but you can't convince other people on the internet by your own apparent testimonies. I could say i was abducted by aliens, but it doesn't hold any weight in of itself. From our current understanding of Autism, we know it's hard to detect it at very young ages. Traits tend to become more noticeable by parents later, at like 4 years old or later, and so the argument that "they were fine developmentally originally" is not actually that surprising. It's difficult to tell Autism from a baby. It's when they start developing social skills and behaviour at later toddler ages and beyond where it gets more noticeable if they have deficits.
+raphaelnb1992 That is a disgusting, offensive comment. You are ignoring a third alternative where we have safe vaccines that save lives, without side effects.
+Redshift You do realize that thousands of observations is a type of evidence right? If one parent makes that association, it's chance. If 10 parents observe it, it could be chance. When thousands, and tens of thousands make that same observation, it becomes statistically significant. The question is, why do you not consider consistent observations, from thousands of different people as possible evidence? This reminds me of Flint Michigan....Everyone was saying we are getting sick, but scoffers ignored that data. Don't get me wrong, I am not anti-vaccination, but I do think there are too many unknowns for you to heartlessly ignore what these parents are saying.
PolymathX Because those observations completely ignore all the cases where a child received vaccines and had nothing at all, it's a huge bias. This is why studies have been done, Denmark and Finland in particular hold a lot of weight because they, put together, analysed over a 100.000 children and found no link between vaccines and autism. Also, my previous comment was offensive on purpose, the question of what to say to those people evokes emotion, not rational and scientific thought, so I gave an equally emotional response.
You can learn.more about the details of vaccines by watching the "Vaccinations" episode of "Penn & Teller: Bullshit!", which features wonderful arguments against the "vaccines cause autism" myth.
This video stirred a very particular set of emotions in me that are normally not what I experience when someone gets on their high horse to preach to me about the dangers of vaccinations. This video is phenomenal. It does not belittle, it does not shame, and it does not patronize those who do not trust vaccinations (although maybe it should). From the very beginning, Dr. Carroll reminds all of us viewers that he is a Pediatrician, who has spent his entire career caring for sick children, some with, and others without autism, that vaccines are not the cause. Prior to this, he explains the original paper that was published in the Lancet, and outlines the incredibly nonscientific, and disturbingly unreliable lack of measures used to develop the bogus results. Shortly after he pleads for us as humans to stop being caught up in an argument that has been disproven for the past 15 years, and to remember that every cent spent beating that dead horse, is a cent that could be utilized on researching treatments to help autistic children and their families. Furthermore he then spends 5 minutes citing source after source, of credible scientific research that stretches nearly a decade and a half, disproving what was originally published. Only to later inform us that the original researcher made it all up. He modified multiple aspects of the 'paper' to better give the appearance of what he wanted (a causational link between the MMR vaccination and autism). The British Medical Journal finalized their disapproval by later calling the original paper a fraud, and insured the man responsible can no longer practice medicine. Dr. Carroll closes with his opinion; stating it is likely kids have died, because of this fraud. If all of this is not enough to convince someone that vaccinations do not cause autism, then I really don't think anything will. There is so much more to this video than 'trust me, I'm a doctor', and to think of all of the parents who preach the misbelief that vaccinations do in fact cause autism, makes me wonder if they ever stopped to think about what real science has to say.
Every time you upload something on this channel, I share it on my facebook so that MAYBE someone will watch it and realize that not vaccinating their babies is more harmful than they can imagine.
I’m 16 and I’ve never had a vaccine same for my younger sisters. My mom says my autism wouldn’t have been high-functioning like it is today if I was vaccinated. 🤦♀️😐 welp I hope I don’t die✊🏻🙄
Your mom doesn't know what she's talking about. It's a mental illness that comes from the brain not working properly. If you were an 18 month child, with 9 shots of vaccines given to you with extreme amounts of mercury, then your brain would go into an epileptic seizure, possibly making you autistic. I can vouch and say that my cousin, who's only 2, is now borderline autistic due to the vaccines she took.
“Meat least” LOL. Not getting vaccinated doesn’t mean you’ll die. The Amish would be extinct by now. The U.S. childhood mortality rate is one of the highest among developed countries despite requiring the most vaccinations. My generation was healthier, and we received a tiny fraction of what kids receive now. We actually got chicken pox and miraculously all survived. As someone who has worked with autistic children, let me remind you that there are teenagers walking around in diapers who are completely non-verbal. So, don’t treat autism like it’s no big deal just because you worship the pharmaceutical industry and want them to keep ramping up the number of mandated shots. .
@@jasryl661 the amish are largely vaccinated. tell us again abut how many kids didn't get measles in your day, didn't get hospitalised by it, didn't die from it.
@eeeaten The Amish are counted as vaccinating if they get just one vaccine. It’s a different set of criteria. Amish don’t get 72 doses. They don’t adhere to the schedule. Your argument is irrelevant.
@VividRouge Not true. Also, Polio went away with better sanitation and easy access to clean drinking water. Polio cases were on a a steep decline before the vaccine was introduced.
I find the fact that the guy who wrote that paper has lost his license hilarious. Warranted and hilarious. Also, I really liked the timeline infographic. The infographics for this channel are pretty great. And all this talk about autism is making me want a SciShow episode on what we know scientifically about it. (I say SciShow and not Healthcare Triage because I feel like SciShow tends to make videos on various aspects of science where as this channel is more viewing an accumulation of various case studies and having the validity of each one confirmed or refuted. I don't think I've ever seen an episode of SciShow done like that, so putting out information like this is important since it NEEDS to be taught. And wow this comment and these parentheses have gone on longer than anticipated.)
I'd also like to note something about Andrew Wakefield. Not only is he no longer licensed in the UK because of the fraud he comitted, he *cannot* get a medical license in the US. How could anyone trust someone that even the US won't give a medical liscense to?
Hate to say it but it is nightmare if he had been in trouble with the BMA See here www.nytimes.com/2013/08/12/business/economy/long-slog-for-foreign-doctors-to-practice-in-us.html?smid=pl-share
Dr John Walker Smith had his license restored after winning a lawsuit. He is the one who carried out the testing. The manufacturers forced these doctors to retract because it threatened profits from the MMR when they recommended single do’s measles shots
I'm seeing a lot of people sharing all these claims that artificial sweeteners are not safe and cause all sorts of problems - cancer, digestive problems, diabetes, dizziness, fibromyalgia, headaches, lupus, migraines, ms, muscle spasms, the list goes on and on. Is there any chance you could address these concerns in a future video? It would be very much appreciated if you could. Thank you for the videos you have already made, very informative and worth viewing.
Doc... can watching a video of a guy jumping left-right-left-right-left... cause anything? I have this uncontrollable urge to favorite this video... hmmmm.
As I was looking through the health triage videos, this one really seemed to catch my eye. I am currently doing research for a debate in my Philosophy Health Care Ethics class on whether or no parents should be dismissed from the practice of their child if they refuse to get them vaccinate. My group is arguing for this topic and this very subject was a part of our research. Right out of the gates the beginning of this video surprised me. I cannot believe all of this panic is due to only eight children with autism and their parents. I figured there was an abundance of individuals with this issue. I completely agree with the fact that we should be spending the money for this research on children with autism. Researchers are literally wasting money when it could be put too much better use. I find it amusing that so much research has been done that comes to the conclusion that there is no association between vaccines and autism and individuals are still panicking and not vaccinating their children. Once again this study shows that individuals are mixing up causation and correlation. Just because a child gets vaccinated and then later is found to have autism, does not at all mean the vaccine caused the autism. It is completely coincidental, but individuals are always trying to put the blame on someone or something. I could not believe that the original study on the eight children was actually faulty. Who in their right mind who go to that much trouble to put the blame on vaccines for their child having autism? This is crazy if you ask me. All of this time and money that has been wasted on this research could have been used somewhere else. Not only were dates changed, but so was the data. Once again this is seriously ridiculous. I believe it is a tragedy that children do not receive the vaccine due to this “study.”
+Monica Smith "hether or no parents should be dismissed from the practice of their child if they refuse to get them vaccinate." You so-called students of so-called ethics are going to start a civil war.
"I'm not going to take your word for any of this, I don't know you or your medical background. I am going to do my own research and cross examine a range of controlled group studies. Hmph" ^This guy gets it! "Wrong! A 7 minute video is all the evidence I need to completely dispute the arguement..." ^This guy doesn't...
Why do we have to be skeptic? It has been proven by evidence and studies that vaccines don't cause autism. It's a simple fact. "You should always be skeptic about things that are given to you." I don't have to when what is given to, or said to me, is something that is a cold, hard fact. If I am skeptic about something that has facts that are real, then why? Because it might be false?
I love how this guy has done literally nothing but state the facts found from peer reviewed large sample objective academic studies and people are still freaking out about it.
I am a Barber by trade for over 30 years. I have had children who were perfectly normal for the first two years until The parents took their children in for the 2 year old vaccinations, then shortly after the autism symptoms began. It doesn't happen every time, but enough times that it has caught my attention in my many years of Barbering. I would suggest parents wait as long as possible, like to the age of 5 before getting those shots. In 1997 autism rates were 1 in 2500, then in 2017 it is 1 in 68. So something is going on.
And autism is mostly genetic, meaning it's determined when the sperm hits the egg, people can't get autism over time, that isn't how it works. Unless a vaccine can magically rewire someone's brain and DNA overnight.
+dannyvaughn366 So, as a Barber, do you also offer your clients surgical advice? Do you do appendectomies too? No? Then stop fucking giving out medical advice unless you want to get off your lazy ass and get a medical degree first
How does one diagnose Autism??? Answer: physicians diagnose Autism via = observation..... Hence in so much as it takes time for the brain to develop so that the verbal and neurological skills to be evaluated can develop sufficient to be assessed = any subsequent diagnosis of Autism waits until then...... Moral: doctors begin to evaluate for signs of Autism typically at "well-baby checks" = when vaccines are typically administered. This makes your "observation" happenstance. A child born Autistic will not manifest outward signs of that until some time has passed consistent with the level of impairment. In other words in the cases of mild impairment say the child might be 2 or 3 years old before the signs are noticeable.
One of my college professors actually do believe that "researcher" is punished unfairly. She said even if the finding is true, they will still have to discredit him for the greater good.
+Tyler Johnson can you deliver a swift left hook to culwin's jaw? I had to look up this "Jenny Mc Carthy" on Wikipedia. It said she's "an American model, television host, comedic actress, author..." but no where did I read anything about her being a medical doctor or scientist. Oh right, that's because she IS a "...anti-vaccine activist." While, yes, I'm not a medical doctor or a scientist myself. I DO have autism, and I know (for a fact) that VACCINES DO NOT CAUSE AUTISM! AUTISM AND VACCINES DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT! GOOD NIGHT! Troll...
Thanks for this. The whole MMR-autism hoax hits me very close to home. My older brother is autistic, and hearing aunts spew tabloid 'science' makes me angrier than anything else. If they just understood the scientific process and what constitutes a causal link, we wouldn't have so much misinformation flying around.
The main author is like a god in the anti-vaxx-community, even though he has admitted that the paper was pure theory. His license is gone and he earns a massive amount of money from those who are badly informed in the matter. His name can be said! Former Dr. Andrew Wakefield!
Pediatricians should have nothing to do with diagnosis. A pediatrician missed my autism, wasnt diagnosed till 15. Pediatricians are simply not capable of proper diagnosis
In 1950 they didn't think that smoking caused cancer. In 2003 the first blu-ray player was made by Sony. Autism is more complicated than a blu-ray player so why should anyone pay any attention to a study done in 1998? In 50 years they might link autism to vaccines just like smoking to cancer. So why take the risk of vaccinating a child before they even have a need for the vaccines they're getting? I'm pro-vaccine but I couldn't see why my newborn had a need for a hep-c vaccine when her mother didn't have hep-c and neither did anyone else we know. Good parenting and just generally being clean is a better option for newborns than vaccinating them for things they don't need. They won't even let you get your kid a tetanus shot before they're 8 but at birth it's perfecting fine to combine it with another vaccine. I'd like for people that respond to this to be constructive and intelligent.
Im just going to say what i know. Somking was linked to cancer well before 1950 and was even used in antisomking posters during ww2. The second point about blue rays and how little we know, i will not addres because it is not constructive to argue about that. When it comes to hep c vaccines. It is because hep c is one of the diseases that can cause chirrosis and malignancy of the liver. Transmission is not easy but if by anyway you get infected there is a more than 30 percent chance of developeing HCC. It is important it is done in a young age so that the child is protected as early as possible.
About the tetanus vaccine, i have no answer because as far as i know. Tetanus is given when the infant is 2, 4, and 6 months old if your using a combination vaccine of diphteria, pertusis and tetanus. Maybe you should ask the person who said that you need to wait. Because tetanus is dangerous
Andreas Suwito I've had multiple doctors say they can't give my daughter the tetanus vaccine without it being in a combo-shot. It's such bullshit. As for Hep-C, I think it's needed by the time you enter public school for sure.
Shwat Toddle you mean the DTP vaccine? Yes well thats because diphteria and pertusis are also dangerous and is coincidentally close in terms of the scedual of administration. If hep c was required for public school usually dpt is also required because generally hep c vaccine is much more expensive so its usually made optonal in undeveloped contries. At least thats how it is from where im from.
Andreas Suwito No I'm talking about how the tetanus vaccine isn't available as a single shot before the age of 8. It seems kind of strange to me that it can be given like the DTP vaccine as a mix of multiple vaccines but not singularly. Where are you from? They might do it there but not in the US.
***** Well the main way we keep polio in check is mosquito control. But there have been localised outbreaks of vaccinatable diseases because people have refused to have their kids vaccinated against things like MMR.
smalltime0 Notably in parts of England and Wales where Measles, Tuberculosis and Mumps have been detected. +daddyleon There's allergies in all treatments, think you can get your child tested for allergies and see what he/she is susceptible to. Apart from that, there is risk in everything, but you certainly don't want your child to catch TB or any of the MMR diseases, it's a risk you have to take.
2DRonaldo I know, I do intent on vaccinating him for everything... although he's not yet born, I worry.. I've heard that doing these vaccinations later might be better, and only slightly...increases the risk.
Look up the article bellow this is very strong evidence that vaccines with aborted cell lines do give people autism and freemartins disease . Injecting yourself with genetic fetal tissue via vaccine will cause freemartins disease and autism. Bellow that is an extended list of aborted fetal cell lines used in vaccines. Blood chimerism in a girl with Down syndrome and possible freemartin effect leading to aplasia of the Müllerian derivatives N. Bogdanova, U. Siebers, R. Kelsch, A. Markoff, A. Röpke, R. Exeler, J. Tsokas, P. Wieacker Human Reproduction, Volume 25, Issue 5, May 2010, Pages 1339-1343, doi.org/10.1093/humrep/deq048 Published: 26 February 2010 Article history Vaccines produced using aborted fetuses The most widely used fetal cells are WI-38 and MRC-5. The WI-38 cells were derived by Leonard Hayflick in 1962 from the lung of a 3-month female fetus [2]. The initials WI refer to the Wistar Institute, a body of the University of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia, and number 38 to the fetus from which the cells were obtained. The MRC-5 cells were obtained in 1966 from the lungs of a 14-week male fetus [3]. The initials MRC indicate Medical Research Council, a body from London. Other cells derived from surgically-aborted foetuses are: WI-1, WI-3, WI-11, WI-16, WI-18, WI-19, WI-23, WI-24, WI-25, WI-26, WI-27, WI-44, MRC-9, IMR-90, and R-17 (obtained from lung); WI-2, WI-12 and WI-20, (skin and muscle); WI-5 (muscle); WI-8 and WI-14, and WS1 (skin); WI-4, WI-9, WI-10, WI-13 and WI-15 (kidney); WI-6, WI-21 and WI-22 (heart); WI-7 (thymus and thyroids), WI-17 (liver); FHs74Int (small intestine); and PER.C6 (retina)1.
It’s hard not to be angry at people who choose not to vaccinate their kids. However there are many comments here calling parents stupid or moronic. It’s just counterproductive to take this approach. If you call someone stupid, it will only trigger a defensive response. Health professionals are trying to improve health outcomes, and parents are just trying to protect their children from what they believe is harmful (right or wrong). It’s about discussing these beliefs, and educating parents so they can make informed choices about health. Yes its difficult and many people resist, but calling them morons won't change their stance. On another note, thank you for this video.
No information about other metals in here but... www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/Concerns/Thimerosal/Index.html Like he said in the video, they took Thimerosal, the preservative in the vaccines that contained mercury, out of the vaccines just in case. I don't know about any other metals being there or not.
What are the long term effects of eating a Tuna Sandwich? They contain more mercury than a vaccine. What are the long term effects of smoking *one* cigarette? They have more formaldehyde than a vaccine.
If you want to do some research I suggest looking up the ingredients. Didn't know that some vaccines are injecting mercury into you? Well, now you do. Also, for the ones regarding STI (sexually transmitted infections), unless you're sexually active there is absolutely no reason to get them until you are of age, the fact that they hand them out to 10 year old is pointless and just puts them at risk of poisoning.
Almighty Bean Very few vaccines have mercury in them... Most had it removed 2 decades ago. But even whent hey did have it, it was a smaller exposure of mercury than you get from swimming in the ocean... I suggest you look things up, you seem to be misinformed.
I completely agree with the fact that vaccines do not cause autism. It is honestly sickening that a parent would rather have their child become ill, or risk spreading an illness, than have autism. You know what is contagious? Measles, mumps and rubella. You know what isn’t? Autism. MMR is uncommon (thanks to vaccines) but it does still occur, which is why I firmly believe that parents need to vaccinate their children against it. Not sure if anyone is familiar with the case, but there was an outbreak of MMR in California back in 2008. A young child went on vacation in Europe with his family, and became ill when he came home. He went to school, his doctor, a children’s hospital lab, the emergency room, and who knows where else he was. He ended up spreading the disease to other individuals, who then passed it on. He was around many immunocompromised individuals and small children who were not old enough to be vaccinated. He spread the disease to eleven people. ELEVEN. Do you know how many people he would have spread it to if he had been vaccinated? None. The speaker mentions that humans find patterns in everything (causation) and it is EXTREMELY hard to determine causation. The link between vaccines and autism is much like the link between murder rates and ice cream sales. As ice cream sales increase, so do murder rates. They are two completely unrelated subjects, but there is a common variable between them: summertime. There is more heat and light in the summer, so there are more people around. Similarly, as vaccination rates increase, the amount of cases of autism increases. The common variable here? Education.
::looks at huge dislike bar:: ....WELP, I think I've had enough of humanity for a while.
Holy crap, it's even, that's rare to see, a tie in like and dislikes
+Irate Carolinian
Look at the comments though... i don't see the Anti-vaccine proponents anywhere near in the quantities the like / dislike bar suggests. In fact hardly at all. so i think it must be a bot or an Anti-Vaccine group linking followers here to dislike the video.
My friends kid was walking and talking and all of a sudden regressed. What did that, bananas?
I'm autistic and honestly, what we really need is acceptance of autistic people- and I know many autistic people agree with me. Medically? It doesn't affect me. Even autistics who are labeled as "low functioning" often don't care about medical research of autism- in fact, most don't. We fear finding a gene for autism would affect us adversely.
What we want is acceptance and help for autistic people-especially adults. We've been assaulted, abused, even killed because we don't fit in.
No one wants autism. So they can suffer and be socially retarded at school and be rejected by their peers.
Prince Vegeta That's more a commentary on the parents of the non-autistic children than it is anything else. We need to teach our children (and each other) not to attack people just for being different.
Better to be autistic than dead from preventable desieses, I always say~.
*****
You clearly have no idea how Vaccines work. They inject DEAD cells of the virus which your immune system can take down easily, thus building up a proper immunity to the desiese in question.
The Nightmare Rider Only some vaccines use dead viruses (like the IPV), others use inactivated/damaged forms of the virus. It is possible, but VERY unlikely to get measles from the MMR shot (less than 1:1 million).
Saying vaccines cause autism is just as silly as proposing foreskins cause stds and HIV
No as silly as thinking the Earth is flat
Duuuuuhhhhhhhhhh.......
the earth I flat from the perspective of the plain we live on..
+James Mclanders It just isn't though
+MIS315 You mean Ye olde leaches don't actually work?!? How about blood letting?
The number of down votes is how many people really needed to see this video, and saw it. Take them like a champ ;)
Stuart Spence He doesn't believe or respect the thousands of parents with RUclips videos who insist vaccines caused their child's injury. I trust them because the liability would now be huge if the CDC admitted they were wrong and covered things up. In 1960, two thirds of doctors said cigarettes were not dangerous.
Only a lying cia pharma troll idiot would say what you said. No amount of Mercury is safe to inject. The amount of mercury those insane lunatics inject would be illegal if it was in a can of tuna fish!!!! The amount allowed in a can of tuna is 250 ppb is the norm in tuna. 2 ppb allowed in water by the EPA. 500 ppb in the norm on a can of white fish. And 51,000 ppb found in 1 flu shot. Also thimerisol is a cancer causing agent. When a full dose of thimerisol alone used to treat something that won't heal,the doctor makes you sign a paper stating that you will not have unprotected sex while on it with photographs. It causes deformaties. Babies can be born with no arms or legs or they are monster like. Squaulene is a parlaysing agent that use to be used in face creams. MSG do not inject.Go ahead if your that fucking stupid!!! Aluminum only a brain dead moron would inject!!! The chemicals in shots can cause serious or bad health effects that may not show up until years later.
DM584 I wouldn't want to be a child in your care. I've seen kids go autistic after shots. You probably know such cases too. Yet you somehow can't believe a system can get away with lies when the cigarette and asbestos and hair dye (an ongoing lie) industries bullied doctors for decades into saying they were not harmful
DM584 - But scientists only found asbestos and tobacco and DDT and Teflon to be dangerous when the political climate allowed them to. Common sense has to prevail until then. Don't be dying your hair often. I predict these hair brained scientists will soon suddenly find the dyes aren't safe after all. Like duh ;)
How is your common sense developed? If it is developed from nonsense like this MMR vaccine myth, it should never prevail.
Can you Anti-Vaccination people answer me this one question: If Vaccinations are bogus, how come Polio was eradicated in the US?
You have no replies because that is exactly it, Vaccines aren't bogus
***** and everybody knows "big pharma=jewish conspiracy"!!!!
***** Fecal bacteria found on 72% of shopping carts...
blogs.webmd.com/breaking-news/2011/03/fecal-bacteria-on-72-of-shopping-carts.html
In other words, people are pigs!
It was simply redefined.
hygiene was seriously considered, taught and practiced in the late 1800's and that is when disease rates and polio dropped, then vaccines were produced much later. You can find this information anywhere.
People like to blame everything but their own genes.
THERUBBISHPCKID You're just a idiot who likes to blame his/her short coming on autism. When reality is you probably have uneducated social assistance abusing drunken soccer hooligan parents who try to burn down Wembley stadium every year, and you just don't know any better. *Better luck next time troll*
cantryss im not a troll and u seem like what u just said about me to be fare typing abuse over the internet and unless u have proof that autism is genetic then I am really not going to listen to u
cantryss no not exactly my autism cant just go away I have it for life and I cant change that and anyway what the fuck do u know about it cuz im presuming by that last sentence you don't have it and to me you can try to studie or understand it all u like but u can never truly feel the struggle and the amazingness of having autism unless you actually have it cuz to me its a curse and a gift a curse to be a total social outcast and feel completely like an outsider but yet the gift to see the world through a truly different and amazing perspective
THERUBBISHPCKID I know it's not caused by medication, but rather genetics with the roll of the dice chance of happening. Assuming you do have it, I have no problem with it. If you have this amazing perspective embrace it. However contrary to what you've been told this condition doesn't happen because of inoculation. It happened through genetics. Also you want to say something about me typing abuse over the internet when you replied to my original comment calling me a dick? Autism, or not don't hide behind things.
THERUBBISHPCKID
Scientists discovered that unborn babies showed signs of autism when using ultrasound.
Also some of the oldest documented cases of autism go back as far as the 1700's. Before there were such things as vaccines.
Genetic enough for you?
I have a feeling I will be referencing this video *a lot*.
Mary Gragg How are the studies not related?
Mary Gragg
Have you checked the references in the description?
Mary Gragg Yes, you know more than the medical professional that spends his life doing medicine, and all others. You're so confident in your knowledge, that you're willing to link to research backing you up in your first comment so that you don't seem like a lying idiot.
Not.
Mary Gragg You're a really good mascot for the anti-vax movement.
Mary Gragg Quick to insult the opposing argument and provides no scientific fact. Typical Anti-Vaxxer BS. GTFO.
The 6,073 people who disliked this probably only came here to do so: Give it a thumbs down. They probably didn't even watch one minute of it. If vaccines were so dangerous, they wouldn't be available.
if vaccines were dangerous, they wouldn't be available. Wow, but if vaccines were working, anti-vaccers would not be seen as a health risk!
jenis betzke That’s not how vaccines work
wow, a stupid one, especially stupid. wikipedia stupid!
If vaccines were so safe the US government would not have taken liability away from the vaccine manufactures as they did in 1986 to present March 2020. As of 1986 you can no longer sue a vaccine manufacture for vaccine injury. You have to sue the US vaccine court.
With no liability the vaccine manufactures have made more vaccines mandatory and they are much less safe. In 2016 there were over 59,000 vaccine adverse events reported to through the VAERS reporting system. This included over 400 deaths and 1,300 permanent disabilities. Harvard Medical was asked to look into the VAERS reporting system to see how well it worked and concluded that less than 1% of adverse events were actually reported. Is it possible that there are 40,000 plus deaths each year from vaccines with over 130,000 permanent disabilities. The CDC claims they don't know but the risk of severe reaction is low.
The CDC also happens to receive billions every year from the sale off vaccines. Can you spell conflict of interest. Why would we believe anything they say especially when all the evidence points to the opposite of what they say?
@@holisticpoet Thats in accurate, the liability is taken away because vaccines are a public health initiative.
Also your claims about suing are absurd, there is a small amount of money put aside from every vaccine deployed for compensation, due to such low rates of serious injury the payouts are very very large and only require evidence that the vaccine caused the injury.
Your entire speel is nothing but cherry picked information taken out of context for shock value, you should be ashamed of yourself. No one is going to report a mild inflammation around the site of the vaccination, since this amounts to almost all of the adverse events of course only a small number are actually recorded, you are such a dishonest person.
There are between 0 - 6 deaths from vaccination in recorded history, Ill say that again BETWEEN ZERO AND 6 DEATHS OVER THE HISTORY OF VACCINATION. As for permanent disability again you are just making stuff up, looking at your numbers its likely you misread vaccines have prevented these deaths and permanent injury.
There is no evidence pointing the opposite direction, shut the fuck up you ignorant selfish child murdering liar.
Obviously, the increase in autism is directly correlated to the decrease in pirates. Inform yourselves, people.
what?
ll .fleischer I believe he's making a joke based on Pastafarianism. The guy who created it created a graph to show that the world temperature is going up while pirates are decreasing, meaning that the lack of pirates is causing global warming. He was trying to demonstrate that correlation doesn't equal causation.
If you’re going to make a joke out of something affecting more than 1 in 50 U.S. children, and leaving many non-verbal and incapable of ever caring for themselves, at least make it remotely funny.
Jasryl6 it’s pretty fucking funny
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Could you do a video describing the cost/benefit analysis of vaccines? Way too often, I see people attacking vaccines on various grounds; not just the autism issue. I would love to have a go-to video on vaccines in general, and I think the clear-cut reasonable style offered here would be an excellent way to do it. I know it's a big topic, but a concise rebuttal to those awful claims would be very helpful and would do a lot of good.
Currently, I refer people to the blog science-based medicine, which is excellent. But that's a text-based site and most people don't seem to have the patience for it. If a nice concise video has been done, refer me to it... if not, I think Healthcare Triage could do a wonderful job of it. All much appreciated.
This this this! x100000. Please do a video that I am able to share.
Noted!
"But that's a text-based site and most people don't seem to have the patience for it."
Yeah, pff. Who needs detail and accuracy in science, right? Words? How silly, I can just stick to my comfortable Dr. Oz and random news articles that tell me to put magnets on my feet.
Vulcapyro You're right and people should dig deeper on important health-related issues. But it's difficult to fight the sensationalistic fear-mongering of a Dr. Oz with lengthy articles. A video presenting the basic facts will sway a lot of people, and a site like science-based medicine can back up the basic information for those who want to invest some real time and effort.
Agreed, especially the flu vaccine
i have been vaccinated multiple times and I still don’t have autism.
@Ninja Chicken I have eaten peanuts multiple times, and I still haven’t gone into anaphylactic shock.
@@jasryl661 nice
@Ninja Chicken Yeah. Never mind the court cases that have been settled involving autism and vaccines. Or, the CDC’s own Senior Scientist now admitting studies were manipulated when they showed a causal association. Or, the DOJ’s top autism expert releasing a sworn affidavit that vaccines do cause autism in certain children. Forget the studies from Exley, Yale and Duke University. Just keep listening o this idiot coward who hides behind his one-sided videos.
@@jasryl661 nice
@@jasryl661 i think that vaccines don't cause autism
I'm pretty sure I started displaying symptoms well before my vaccinations, because my mom was scared and I got them late. Also, autism is very very preferable to dying of the measles, and I'm glad I was vaccinated. Seriously, autistic is far from the worst thing your kid could turn out to be. For instance, they could be the type of ableist jerks that don't vax their kids.
Exactly.
People always want an easy answer or scapegoat for something, but it’s not always that simple.
And that 1998 study was proven fraudulent as it was discovered Wakefield embellished many details of it (the kids were never actually diagnosed with autism, only 1 was I think, and they started showing signs even before they got vaccinated).
The vaccine does not cause autism but even if it did, I'd rather have that then a deadly desease.
@@RYMAN1321 You’re right. It wasn’t research at all. It was coffee morning gossip. I would expect the 12 year-olds in my Year 8 class to be more thorough and honest when presenting a science report.
Don't trust a professional with almost 10 years in experience, but listen to this lousy article with no back up proof!
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Multi Type
It’s a joke you moron
Shani Avery-Scott yeah he knows you four year old
@@smalltowngirl4415 God, calm down! He might not have known! You don't have to be a youtube commenter!
@@smalltowngirl4415 I didn't know. I am sorry. After looking at your comment for a while, I can believe you.
I shared your video and it started a firestorm on my Facebook page. I had no idea people were so generally distrusting of vaccines and the medical profession. So I spent the afternoon calmly talking about double blind trials and the general good intentions of doctors. Thank you for making this video and sharing your perspective. I value your knowledge.
Aww. Thanks!
melodychef That's interesting, let me share this video and see what happens
Jasryl6 Would you provide source to statements you have made here?
+Yaqub Ali Vaccines have become a tool for Memorandum 200. They never were safe or effective.
commnter10 wow, that's the best you can do?
Due to vaccine hysteria, the measles is back! So sad...
Yep
They were back for about 2 weeks and dissappeared again. I wouldn't at all be surprised if the measles outbreak was a planned event by the pharmaceutical companies to justify forcing people to have their innocent children injected without further delay rather than waiting until even ONE actual scientific study that proves without doubt that these vaccines in these quantities in such a short span of time to NEWBORNS who typically have immunity fr their mother automatically unless someone like these profit hungry psychos forcibly inject neuro toxic DNA altering chemicals in frequent regular intervals up to age 6. Are YOU FUCKING INSANE ?? What set of parents with the combined IQ of a potatoe would subject their own child at birth to such an obvious attempt to both increase profit but also force the sacrifice against the genetically vulnerable. I will not destroy my children's lives to help achieve this irrational evil agenda.
Paws4Mercy .... the incidence of measles has risen since the anti vax movement not reduced last yer there were over 6 hundred cases and this year looks like it will be almost as bad here is a graph www.cdc.gov/measles/images/measles-cases-616px.png
Paws4Mercy
Lol...omg you cant actually be serious 😂
Even worse now.
I'm Autistic. Can confirm its better than having Measles.
Same here. Idc if vaccines caused me to have autism. Tbh, I couldn’t imagine being “normal”. It just sounds… boring… and I prefer to be… not dead
@@hiimpeyton671 I love how you view this disorder, not as a "disease", but as a thing that makes you, you! I have autism too and I sometimes struggle with people viewing it like it's a problem, but in my opinion autism gives people so much more personality!
considering the risk of serious harm from measles is about 1/1000, and a third of autistic people are non verbal, i would definitely rather my kid got measles than autism. luckily vaccines don't cause autism.
@@eeeaten Nearly 1 to 3 of every 1,000 children who become infected with measles will die from respiratory and neurologic complications.
I hope you never have chuldren
@@hiimpeyton671 in western countries with good healthcare it’s more like 1 in 2000 or more, so the chance of serious harm from measles _if infected_ is quite low compared to the 1 in 3 autistic kids who are non verbal. It’s a question of relative risk, not of choosing one possible outcome over another. Don’t say stupid stuff like you hope I never have children. That’s just childish.
India has the largest number of autistic children (851,000), followed by China (422,000), Nigeria (207,000), and Indonesia (159,000). Vaccination rates are often low in these regions, further refuting already debunked claims about a link between vaccines and autism.
Lmao India and China have the biggest pops in the world, of course they're gonna have larger numbers. If you compare autism rates, America's is SIGNIFICANTLY higher
@@llamajoeteam
India has an autism rate of 88.50, whereas the United States is rated 80.90 in Autism rates (so India is much higher in Autism Rates than the US despite India having much lower vaccination rates than the US).
China, on the other hand, has an autism rate of........................................................... 79.70. The US autism rates of 80.90 is not exactly "SIGNIFICANTLY higher" than 79.70. If vaccines did cause autism, the US (one of the highest vaccinated countries) should be significantly than China (which are much lower).
You neglected to include Nigeria which has an autism rate of 82.90 (higher than the US) and Indonesia which has 83.60 (still higher than the US) in your response. This is despite Nigeria and Indonesia having low vaccination rates.
worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/autism-rates-by-country
@@llamajoeteam man got duped REAL hard here
What exactly would convince you all there is no link between MMR and Autism
hmmm, maybe a vaccinated kid without autism
Saying vaccines are bad because they cause autism, is just a way to say you see autism as a problem in the world. I love being autistic tbh
autism is a problem for the world.
There are a ton of low-functioning, non-verbal kids with autism who can’t care for themselves and would probably disagree
There's going to be a screening of Vaxxed next week in my town. I'm honestly considering going there and holding up signs showing kids in Iron lungs and dying from preventable diseases.
You're doing the lord's work, sir.
You are a boon to science and reason in this world.
Here are four ways autistic conditions are caused and confirmed by statements from the current President of pharmaceutical giant Merck's Vaccines Division, by US Government agencies, by the US Federal Court and in formally published academic journal papers.
If you read nothing else I strongly recommend you read this PDF Download - [Text of May 5th 2008 email from US HRSA to Sharyl Attkisson of CBS News]. In it the US Health Resources Services Administration [HRSA] state to CBS News reporter Sharyl Attkisson
"We have compensated cases in which children exhibited an encephalopathy, or general brain disease. Encephalopathy may be accompanied by a medical progression of an array of symptoms including autistic behavior, autism, or seizures."
childhealthsafety.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/attkisson-cbs-hrsa-email-exchanges-autistic-conditions-vaccines.pdf
Vaccine induced encephalopathy can lead to both autistic behavior and autism. It's the same difference only they are using word salad. They can't conceivably concede that vaccines cause encephalopathy but cannot ever cause autism because that would be impossible. Encephalopathy can result in autistic behavior and autism. Vaccines cause autism.
I'm autistic. And I'm vaccinated. Even if the vaccines caused the autisim (which they didn't) I would still rather be vaccinated and autistic than neither.
Lord Caelvanir science is a waste of money vaccines are bad they have aluminum in them and thats horrible for you
@Steve Weldon A lot of research is being done on autism, OFC!. And is published all the time every time they find relevant things. And a lot of the evidence seems to point to the same direction: that autism starts to develop in the womb, it's genetic. Not, definitely not because of vaccines or "myriad" of vaccines.
Missy Minx Have you considered that the parents took the MMR and that it genetically mixed with their DNA? I'm not saying it's true but it is a possibility. MMR was introduced in 1971 so people took that okay, and different generations continued taking it afterwards. Then in 1989, the second dose was introduced in 1989 just in time for the outbreak 1989-1991, so for sure people would be all scared and went ahead and took that second dose. So that's double the dose that people took. Now say those people start having babies after they received both doses of MMR. What if there was something in the MMR at that time that was able to alter the DNA in the baby while in the womb? Maybe thimerisol or maybe even Bovine Serum Albumin? They are both toxic. BSA actually contain lead, which is leading cause of learning and behavior disorders. Oh yeah and other vaccines contained BSA so more of a possibility of lead-poisoning.
I am not saying any of this is true but it could be possible out of many possibilities. The only way to find out is to have further studies.
***** First of all, that's not how vaccines work. Secondly, that's not how DNA works. Thirdly, that's not how lead poisons. You are in dire need of remedial science education.
Daniel T Is that so? then enlighten me please. How exactly do vaccines work? Only scientist know themselves and I doubt you are. How does DNA work? How does lead poison work? Bovine Serum Albumin is toxic look that shit up yourself, because BSA is present in most vaccines. And what do you know most people were vaccinated. But like I said please enlighten me. Do note that this could be a possibility not a fact, unless you scientifically prove me wrong then I'll be sorry for thinking of any possibilities. We live in a world where anything is possible.
*****
Body flushes out any vaccine delivery chemical injected into you within 4 weeks of the shot being given; for those type of people there is a spray version of the vaccine.
Also if you go to the centre for disease control and prevention, it tells you to never take any vaccine (shot-based) if you're pregnant.
So if their Doctor has given them a shot when pregnant, then they need a serious re-education.
2DRonaldo flushes them out, yes but they do not know how much of these toxins are retained in the glands etc because they do not look. Sure they can check to see if there are any toxins in urine feces and blood, but just because they are no longer in the urine or blood does not mean that they have not accumulated in the pineal gland etc. This is how bad the science is and its what people use to suggest that it is safe to inject carcinogens into infants. This negligence and ignorance and lacks any rigor of conduct. We cannot pretend that the human body is a simple garbage disposal unit, what goes in comes out. You put something into the body, it will do its very best to flush it out. But to not check for residues in tissue bone or glands is clearly negligence/malpractice.
A follow-up video might mention the prevalence of MMR; I get why you couldn't delve into specifics in this one, but it'd be good to know what the costs of not getting vaccinated are.
More likely to get measles, mumps, and rubella. Not vaccinating your kids could lead to:
www.brecorder.com/images/2013/01/measles.jpg
pathmicro.med.sc.edu/mhunt/rubel2.jpg
Not good.
diseases and death
@@ysc_josh
Polio had sharply declined by the time the polio vaccine was introduced.
Better hygiene, cleaner food and water and refrigeration has done more for reducing death than any vaccine has.
Vaccines are a liability-free cash cow for big pharma. The media sells fear and you buy the vaccines.
I've been waiting for you to cover this topic since your first video. Great job
Me too! :)
Why did I know that this video would have a lot of dislikes?
I don't care if adults don't get vaccinated for the wrong reasons. It's kinda sad, but at some point people are responsible for their own stupidity. Kids on the other hand can't and shouldn't have a say in this matter and if adults make stupid decisions about their lives I get really angry.
I also don't like when kids get fed terribly by their parents, however, I leave them to their own personal freedom, or stupidity, or however you want to perceive it. I certainly don't assume the right to tell them what to do.
garreth davis Yes, but whether or not my child is fat has no impact on your child. My child's fatness won't leech on to your child. Whooping cough, on the other hand, is contagious.
Imagine: Your child (too young to be vaccinated, whether or not you plan on vaccinating him / her) contracts whooping cough from a child who is old enough to be vaccinated but isn't. Your child then dies from said whooping cough infection. Suddenly is seems relevant whether or not the other child was vaccinated, no?
When it comes to Autism, and similar "disabilities" *spits in disgust at such a word* such as Aspergers Syndrome, *you're either born with it or you're born without it*.
I had to spend most of my childhood from 1994 (Age 6, Year 1 Primary) through to 2003 (Age 15, Year 10 Secondary) bouncing from paediatrician to paediatrician around Sydney (I was living down near Canberra at the time), spending a fair chunk of my schooling years at Royal Far West up at Manly, as my mother kept wanting the docs to "diagnose" me with ADD or ADHD so she could drug the fuck out of me, pretty much every single doctor who saw me said I had no signs of ADD or ADHD but that I *have* Aspergers Syndrome.
Since then, it's been basically confirmed every male on my dad's side of the family for at least his generation and mine (and we suspect my grandfather had it as well, but he passed in 2002) have AS in some form or another, and any biological child of mine will either have it active or probably be a carrier for it.
0 Dislikes? Is this the apocalypse?
Shhhh, don't jinx it!
I have no idea what's going on...
Healthcare Triage Talking about Vaccines and Autism is like talking about Gun Control. It normally unleashes the hounds of psychosis.
It is a testament to how good this video is that your comment section isn't nothing but hatred and bile.
Well ya jinxed it :)
As medical students who returned after chiropractic school, we have had our fair share of debates on this topic. It is exhausting searching for evidence to persuade those who do not seem to value evidence or the scientific method. Thank you for this simple and concise explanation that will save me some trouble when I inevitably engage in another debate.
This reminded me of a quote from Sam Harris. I can't remember it exactly but it was something like this: If someone doesn't value facts and evidence, reason and logic, what evidence or logic could you present to persuade them? A difficult question to be sure.
+Aziraphale686 Sam Harrris is brilliant and now that you mention it that quote sounds familiar. These days defending science is often not fashionable in media. So when you see individuals like Sam Harris or Neil deGrasee Tyson taking up that mantle in the public space it is encouraging.
Alexa, play this video at full volume for my family to hear
ha lol
What's sad is I know families that don't get vaccines SPECIFICALLY because of thus paper. All vaccines. There have been two outbreaks of whooping cough in the Fraser Valley, BC, Canada because of parents not immunizing their kids.
While everyone's passionate about this MMR vaccine issue, I thought I throw out there that the lack of HPV vaccine vaccination is also a big issue. It's a shame
HPV is LEAST STUDIED and the MOST POINTLESS vaccine that had ever been created. They don't even know how long the vaccinations lasts and only some have guessed 4-5 years at the MOST. Many women have died from this nasty vaccine and even some have had horrible siezures and even be report linking women to ovarian failure. Most pointless vaccine pushed through by the industry that is BIG Pharma. Lies and deceit.
I was diagnosed with autism when I was two and it has changed my life forever.. My dreams of being a normal kid is over.. My brother told me I got autism from a vaccine shot so I looked this up.It makes me so mad that all these other kids are so much different from me.. Also on top of my autism i have ADHD so it's really hard to do things in school and pay attention. To ANYBODY who has this like me. It's okay, we are all different. I am with you and we are with you. it's okay to be different, and anybody who tells you otherwise is wrong. stay strong!
Your brother told you. Not a medical professional with actual medial experience.
you were diagnosed when yoh were 2 man, that means you got the help you need and didnt grow up even more confused and more socially restricted. a dr. diagnosed you, i should add. without your pediatrician's decisions you would not have lived to even right this post. those guys have your best interests at heart. they took an oath. they arn't there to hurt you and neither are vaccines.
+Reece Crump sorry for spelling errors
The quality of discourse in this comment section is appalling.
Coming from a family of doctors, brother, mother, father, and as a parent of 3 healthy children, I am shocked and appalled at the amount of seemingly intelligent people willing to put their kids and mine at risk by not vaccinating. These people must be shunned. I just don't understand how anyone can see the overwhelming amount of data that completely refutes the notion of a link to Autism from vaccines and simply ignore it. The good thing to come of this "debate" is we now know for certain what doesn't cause Autism.
To all the people who disliked this video, where are you counterarguments?
They have none,all they are going to do is endanger other people
As an Aspie, every time I hear an argument about how vaccine supposedly causes autism, I cannot help but hear it as, not an anti-vaccine argument, but rather as an anti-autism argument. And, truth to be told, that bothers me _a lot_ more than whether people are right or wrong about vaccine causing autism.
8 People caused millions to die a year?
I hate those parents
Wow, your videos are like a breath of fresh air.
Ikr who could dislike this?
MrCoonpuff
Those with Tinfoil for hats that have every assault rifle make ever created.
2DRonaldo What the fuck are you smoking?
MrCoonpuff He's talking about conspiracy theorists.
Jesusdragon737 in a nut shell.
Just from looking at the number of dislikes I can tell humanity is fucked
There is always hope
Never give up
@@callumadams8364 lol RUclips removed dislikes now.
@@RajMahalTV there's an extension if you want to see them.
Reading through the comments supporting no vaccinations really makes me disgusted
Dr. Carroll, Are there more children with autism now than in the past or are we just better at diagnosing autism?
I think you answered your own question. Though over-diagnosing is part of the problem.
And perhaps the medical community hasn't done the best job explaining to the public that autism covers a wide spectrum of disorders.
The "increase" in autism is a combination of better diagnosis, over-diagnosis and the reclassification of certain disorders as part of the Autism spectrum (see Asperger's).
Or worse.
My uncle refused to have his children vaccinated. Much of the household got whooping cough. Afterward one of the younger children got RSV. Her immune system was so weak from the whooping cough that what should have been a cold or maybe pneumonia turned into 5 weeks in children's and part of that time in a medically induced coma. Vaccinations are administered to keep children healthy. The childhood diseases we vaccinate for can kill.
so sorry about your cousin :-< Thank you for sharing this - it's worth it if even ONE person decides to vaccinate after all because they read your story.
i tell pro disease ppl they can 'have fun getting whooping cough'
By the way, the lead researcher of the original Lancet study had applied for a patent on the single Measles vaccine before the study was published.
And the study was proven to be fraudulent. And Wakefraud lost his license as well.
No other study has shown any link at all.
The number of dislikes are frightening
If you're lazy, the entire video explains why CORRELATION DOES NOT EQUAL CAUSATION
More accurately, it explains that in the case of the MMR scare, there wasn't even a correlation at all.
Mentioning the name "Andrew Wakefield" to anyone in the NHS is a surefire way to get them to break whatever they're holding.
I don't think you understand what point I was going for. Yes, while the video does detail the MMR vaccine scare, I was trying to reference the more top level, wider impact point.
Hunter Willis I'm certainly not disagreeing about the Correlation =/=causation point, but what I find most horrifying about the MMR case is that there wasn't even a correlation - it was almost completely fabricated. The dark irony behind the whole thing was that as far as I'm aware, at no point has Wakefield suggested that children not receive vaccinations or be vaccinated against MMR. His suggestion was merely to return to the individual separate vaccinations (for which some investigative journalism has suggested he had a financial interest in).
Welcome to the world of today. Any publicity will earn you money. Lots and lots of money. I mean I'm 17 and am disgusted about how most of my peers act and dream. I agree 100% with your point about the MMR being a complete hoax, but that's how you make money today. As I was saying, I am a self taught web developer and work on real projects and do my own, but so many times I'll get disregarded or belittled because I'm young, not because of talent. And this is all because people crave publicity for cash. If we all just were gears in the system, providing our pieces, it will work. Yes, we're all unique, but that doesn't mean you're smart and know what you're doing. The attention clings to idiots, and since money goes to the attention, there is a vicious cycle.
That doesn’t rule out that it might be a causation though
Well even if they do, I’m autistic and I’ve never seen it as a disadvantage. So still get it. I honestly enjoy seeing the world differently than everyone else
@Hi I’m Peyton! I see this comment from so many people, As many as 40% of children with ASD are non-verbal. Many will spend their lives in diapers and. will be unable to care for themselves. I have worked with autistic children, and feel terrible for children on the low end of the spectrum. I know some remarkable kids with Autism who stay positive and do very well. But, they are more of an exception than the norm, and comments like these are one reason why the rapid rise in autism is still ignored by politicians and society in general. It’s as if people want to pretend the ugly side of autism doesn’t exist.
@@jasryl661 could you show me your source? Because that definitely isn't true
@willem source? Here. I’ll give you the steps. Step 1. Go to any search engine. Step 2. Type “what percentage of autistic children are non-verbal?”
@@jasryl661 I’ll give you 2 steps as well.
1: give your source like an adult
2:press send like an adult
3: be an adult
That’s 3? Sorry
@Hi I'm Peyton! Responsible adults teach kids how to do things for themselves. Spoiled children wait for an adult to do things for them. Don’t be a spoiled child. Type it in a search.
The number of ice cream sales increase in summer and so does the amount of cases of hay fever.
Does ice cream cause hay fever?
No, correlation and cause are different ...
I know that vaccines didn’t give me autism. I was born with it.
Me too...
ikr, i was either born w/it, or got it from meningitis, which i SURVIVED WITHOUT A VACCINE AS A BABY
You forgot to mention something... Specifically the something wherein the doctor that pushed for MMR vaccines to be banned was doing so because he wanted to force a single vaccine method instead... Which he had already pushed a patent on.
LIES! Do your research.
@@Kinergetics your precious Wakefield has already lost his ability to practice medicine almost anywhere in the world oh, because he lied. And now here you are, lying for him, not even realizing you've been duped. You're that stupid.
@@TacComControl You are so easily conned! I have done more research on Wakefield than most doctors have done on vaccines. Are you too stupid to do your own research?
@@Kinergetics That's cute, you think you matter. Keep telling yourself that, cupcake. One day the world might stop laughing at you.
@@TacComControl They are already laughing at you as you are unable to research anything for yourself!
As a neuropsychologist and former professor of research methods and statistics, I have to say that the concept of correlation in no way equals causation is easily the largest hurdle to making good decisions about pretty much anything. This video is just one powerful example of this problem. The power of human emotion is so great (and it always has been) that we are willing to accept simple associations as reasons for almost any kind of illness or behavior instead of bravely stepping up and exploring the scientific method to shed light on whatever the issue is. Good research can sometimes tell us what the truth is, and more importantly, it can tell us when we don't know the truth. I think teaching people (and convincing people) to become critical consumers of "science", of political claims, of business marketing etc., is just as important as vaccinations. Thanks so much for sharing these videos.
Chris
Yep but you dare go against the narrative, you become ostracised.
There is no free talk about vaccines, Corona proves it..
Try and be critical, you'll get regurgitated nonsense from above, most drs are owned by the CDC or in the uk HCPC, basically gagged.
There is no one truth, just perception.
The fact you CANNOT debate against the narrative, is THE cause for concern.
So you think the healthcare system is more smarter than parents who have seen the adverse effects?
Even if vaccines COULD cause autism, what kind of parent would prefer that their child died from measles-induced meningitis or became crippled from polio rather than become autistic?
As a 15 year old on the autism spectrum, I can say I'd take vaccines any day.
Even if it does cause autism, what's so bad about it? I'm autistic and I'm 100% normal. I don't know why people were freaking out about it. The way people think of autism really makes me upset.
Not 100% normal, because most people don't have autism. Normal means what the majority of people are like.
Heikki Palola I'm like any other person.
Steve Schempp I know a lot of autistic kids. 2 of them (ages 10 and 12) are still in diapers and will likely never speak. Not everyone is high-functioning. Kids, on the low end of the spectrum, would not agree with your comment.
Jasryl6 I’m considered to be in the high end, but I’m fine.
Steve Schempp That’s good. So is my son. But, I feel for these kids who aren’t. They appear to be in a constant state of discomfort. I don’t think we should ever diminish Autism. Doing so will only decrease public awareness.
Healthcare Triage You guys are awesome, and I'm glad you finally covered this topic! Where I live, there is a small movement of people who are anti-vaccination, and as a result we have one of the highest cases of whooping cough fatalities in infants in the country. Would you, in the future, cover the importance of both adults and children taking the whooping cough vaccine?
Healthcare Triage is pap. And gosh, wouldn't it be great to blame anti-vaxxers for the whooping cough outbreak and actually be right? But the fact is that most of the pertussis deaths are in heavily vaccinated areas among heavily vaccinated babies and families, and the vaccine is failing to protect them. www.smartvax.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=56&Itemid=43
On the other hand, per the CDC, the risk of a child developing asthma from the DTaP vaccine is greater than 1 in 13. Hey, at least it's good for something! www.smartvax.com/images/PDF/cdc%20-%20childhood%20vaccinations%20and%20risk%20of%20asthma.pdf
Depending on your source, between 9 and several hundred babies have died of pertussis in the U.S. in the past year (actually, no one is saying the number is that high). Let's say the number is actually something outrageous like 1000. The number of asthma deaths per year is growing by the year and was 3,404 in 2010 (again per the CDC. www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/asthma.htm).
If I'm a parent who can do math, I'll do some further research before I consider that a good risk/reward ratio for vaccination of my baby with DTaP, especially if I consider the growing evidence (www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20193633) of scores of auto-immune disorders associated with vaccines.
Interesting - when there was a whooping cough epidemic where I live the vaccinated children caught it. None of the vaccine free children contracted the cough. Very small seaside town, we did not keep them separate or hang out in cliques. This does not necessarily mean anything I simply found it intriguing at the time. Also the vaccination schedule in the country I live is 6weeks, 3 months, 5 months, 18months and onwards. The high rates of SIDS in this country occur at 6weeks, 3 months, 6 months. I don't have a barrow to push with this and I am not an epidemiologist or a biochemist I'm just interested in the conversation. My kids are grown now. What I don't appreciate is the name calling,and insults. This is a really important conversation to be having. Informed decision making means researching as many perspectives of an issues as one can. Simply going along with vaccination because your physician recommended it is not informed consent. Great conversation - I believe in passionate objectivity. You need to be able to argue a point from both sides in order to fully refute the side you disagree with.
Look up the article bellow this is very strong evidence that vaccines with aborted cell lines do give people autism and freemartins disease . Injecting yourself with genetic fetal tissue via vaccine will cause freemartins disease and autism. Bellow that is an extended list of aborted fetal cell lines used in vaccines.
Blood chimerism in a girl with Down syndrome and possible freemartin effect leading to aplasia of the Müllerian derivatives
N. Bogdanova, U. Siebers, R. Kelsch, A. Markoff, A. Röpke, R. Exeler, J. Tsokas, P. Wieacker
Human Reproduction, Volume 25, Issue 5, May 2010, Pages 1339-1343, doi.org/10.1093/humrep/deq048
Published: 26 February 2010 Article history
Vaccines produced using aborted fetuses
The most widely used fetal cells are WI-38 and MRC-5. The WI-38 cells were derived by Leonard Hayflick in 1962 from the lung of a 3-month female fetus [2]. The initials WI refer to the Wistar Institute, a body of the University of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia, and number 38 to the fetus from which the cells were obtained. The MRC-5 cells were obtained in 1966 from the lungs of a 14-week male fetus [3]. The initials MRC indicate Medical Research Council, a body from London. Other cells derived from surgically-aborted foetuses are: WI-1, WI-3, WI-11, WI-16, WI-18, WI-19, WI-23, WI-24, WI-25, WI-26, WI-27, WI-44, MRC-9, IMR-90, and R-17 (obtained from lung); WI-2, WI-12 and WI-20, (skin and muscle); WI-5 (muscle); WI-8 and WI-14, and WS1 (skin); WI-4, WI-9, WI-10, WI-13 and WI-15 (kidney); WI-6, WI-21 and WI-22 (heart); WI-7 (thymus and thyroids), WI-17 (liver); FHs74Int (small intestine); and PER.C6 (retina)1.
I was born in 1993 in Denmark, i was in that New England study, yay!
I'd say that's myth busted.
I agree this is true for a big majority of the population, but the problem is that even if a small minority, say 10%, continue to believe the myth, we no longer have necessary levels of vaccination for herd immunity.
Jasper Schmidt Because it's not just ONE guy.
Say the 1 person has 10 friends, and 2 children, and each of his 10 friends has 2 children. if his 2 kids don't get vaccinated, and they convince 1 friend to not vaccinate, and that person convinces one person, and that person convinces 1 person, it quickly turns into 100s of kids who aren't vaccinated- which leads to a small hole in the herd immunity, which will, and HAS lead to the death of children who were too young to receive vaccines, or had immune system weaknesses that prevented them from receiving the vaccines, or adults with compromised immune systems.
Not vaccinating your child will lead to the death of some else's child. Why would anyone ever think that is an okay thing?
Jasper Schmidt No getting vaccinated means YOU are more likely to infect a kid who was allergic to the vaccine or was just "not vaccinated" because of parental objections. And kids catching polio or measles means dead kids.
cbbuntz watch's one RUclips... says he's he's an 'expert'
But wait I just heard elsewhere that we don’t actually known if the Autism rate is increasing it’s just that we are increasing diagnosis of Autism because we are finding better methods to diagnose Autism. It said that Autism is still very complicated and we don’t really know what causes it, there is just a bunch of speculations
When my teen son got vaccinated, a week later he started developing spots, he started getting hairier, wetting the bed, getting moodier, oggling at girls even more and spent even more time locked in his room doing god knows what. We gotta stop the vaccines quick, quick!
hope social services take your child away from you. and to add onto a point your child is fucking developing and it just correlates with the vaccination
He is beyond repair. I am sorry but, we must amputate him. Vaccines are causing people to turn into evil, lustful, hairy monsters!
So you're saying that puberty is bad?
***** Yeah, we all would be little brats too!
Kenneth Warring if that happened I would have the same abilities as Wolverine aka Logan. Looking at the bright side
So logical. So clear. Thank you. I hope that research figures out why we're seeing such a surge in the numbers of people with autism. I certainly hope it and related syndromes prove to be preventable and/or curable.
Appreciated!
I already know the answer: This society, this lifestyle we have today. We haven't adapted to this world we live in. Evolution is very slow. That's why there are so many mental illnesses. But that's just my thoughts on it, from a person with a mild form of kanner syndrome or classical autism, however you want to call it.
+Zeyev There was a large increase in autism cases because people are getting better at diagnosing it. There is a smaller amount of cases of mental retardation because many cases are being renamed as autism.
I don't think it's so much as surge as it is either overdiagnosing or that we're getting better at recognizing it. In the former case, signs are just misinterpreted as something else. I went through five diagnoses of various mental disorders before we landed on autism, and now I'm finding that I may not be autistic at all. Go figure
@@nicholasbogan5963
Autism is headed to 1 in 2 sometime in the 2030s.
I am autistic and autism isn’t bad
It’s not about whether it’s good or bad. Get your feeling out of it. It’s the fact that big pharma is getting away with injuring millions of kids! No one wants to challenge them because of “vaccines”.
@@MentalWarrior4GOD11 injuring?
@@shreddy5050 Yup brain damage and neurological issues. That why the Supreme Court deemed vaccines “unavoidably unsafe” look into it!
@@MentalWarrior4GOD11 Lol they didn't deem vaccines unavoidably unsafe, idiot. The language in the Bruesewitz v. Wyeth case literally just meant that the vaccine manufacturers aren't liable if there are any side effects. The family that sued wasn't able to prove a link between their daughter's disabilities and her vaccinations, because there is none. Again, the case only concluded that manufacturers aren't liable for any side effects if they give proper warning. It never states that vaccines are "unavoidably unsafe". Look into it! And stop believing the nonsense you read on Facebook.
@@shreddy5050 "An unavoidably unsafe product isn't necessarily by its nature dangerous. Rather, it's a product that is incapable of being made safe for its intended and ordinary use. ... For drugs or vaccines, the product can't be adulterated and it must work as intended."www.findlaw.com/injury/product-liability/what-is-an-unavoidably-unsafe-product.html#:~:text=An%20unavoidably%20unsafe%20product%20isn,its%20intended%20and%20ordinary%20use.&text=For%20drugs%20or%20vaccines%2C%20the,it%20must%20work%20as%20intended.
“No vaccine manufacturer shall be liable in a civil action for damages arising from a vaccine-related injury
or death associated with the administration of a vaccine after October 1, 1988, if the injury or death resulted from side effects that were unavoidable even
though the vaccine was properly prepared and was accompanied by proper directions and warnings.” www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/10pdf/09-152.pdf
Take the vaccine and stfu!
Thank you for your ongoing efforts to educate the public on important matters Dr. Carroll. As a graduate clinician in Speech-Language Pathology, I can wholeheartedly say that this particular video is fantastic for informing concerned parents given the fear mongering of the infamously flawed study..
I don't trust these so called Doctors. They can be bought off too. And spread disinformation. Its lobbyist in ever field
Jenny McCarthy and her crying wolf over this fictional issue has killed children. I don't know if I can forgive her for that.
Don't forget Jim Carrey. Sigh. As much as I loved him in Eternal Sunshine...
I take vaccines to level up my autism powers
Level up or down?
@@JoaquinCampana1998 Level Up to be more powerful
@@plutonian2770 big brain
SOON MY ADHD WILL BECOME UNSTOPABLE
The Idiocracy is real
I just hope those who believe they do are kind and understanding to us autistics
No they definitely aren't! Because people who say the vaccine causes autism are the same people who happily discriminate against people with autism. Why else would they say "vaccines cause autism" like it's a bad thing??
Hoo boy
@@catguy4996 true
The vaccine debt doesn't work with me. My daughter has autism and she has NEVER had a vaccine in her life. She had signs of autism and was diagnosed BEFORE she ever had a single vaccine. I opted out of vaccines because of her seizure history (Before we knew she was autistic). My other children are completely vaccinated and never had an issue. You need to vaccinate your kids unless there is a legit medical concern.
Also, if you are a part of any genetic research project such as myself, you will see there is a specific mutated gene that has been studied for the past couple of years. I can't remember the name if the gene (that's not why I was a part of a study) but if you research it yourself, you'll find it.
Any chance there is any way to get the citations for the studies you have talked about? Thanks
There's a link to heads to them in the description.
In the description.
So this guy is saying that autism comes out of nowhere ?
No moron he's just saying it doesn't come from vaccines. How is that the same as saying it comes from nowhere?
that's a straw man
0 IQ
@@jackjohnson4386 It comes out of people like you if you became a scientist.
@@Optim40 Prove it
I need to post this everywhere.
What about the literally thousands of people who say, my child was fine developmentally. Perfectly normal, insightful, intelligent, active. My child received a vaccine and that night, started acting strangely, stopped making eye contact, stopped speaking words. 5 years later, my child is diagnosed with Autism. He/she has never been the same since the vaccination? What do you say to these people?
+PolymathX
I would say that it could be a coincidence, (a correlation and not a causation), and that your personal testimony isn't going to convince someone like me because it falls short of actual evidence. Believe what you want, but you can't convince other people on the internet by your own apparent testimonies. I could say i was abducted by aliens, but it doesn't hold any weight in of itself.
From our current understanding of Autism, we know it's hard to detect it at very young ages. Traits tend to become more noticeable by parents later, at like 4 years old or later, and so the argument that "they were fine developmentally originally" is not actually that surprising. It's difficult to tell Autism from a baby. It's when they start developing social skills and behaviour at later toddler ages and beyond where it gets more noticeable if they have deficits.
+PolymathX They better be goddam grateful to have an autistic child rather than a dead one
+raphaelnb1992 That is a disgusting, offensive comment. You are ignoring a third alternative where we have safe vaccines that save lives, without side effects.
+Redshift You do realize that thousands of observations is a type of evidence right? If one parent makes that association, it's chance. If 10 parents observe it, it could be chance. When thousands, and tens of thousands make that same observation, it becomes statistically significant. The question is, why do you not consider consistent observations, from thousands of different people as possible evidence? This reminds me of Flint Michigan....Everyone was saying we are getting sick, but scoffers ignored that data. Don't get me wrong, I am not anti-vaccination, but I do think there are too many unknowns for you to heartlessly ignore what these parents are saying.
PolymathX Because those observations completely ignore all the cases where a child received vaccines and had nothing at all, it's a huge bias. This is why studies have been done, Denmark and Finland in particular hold a lot of weight because they, put together, analysed over a 100.000 children and found no link between vaccines and autism.
Also, my previous comment was offensive on purpose, the question of what to say to those people evokes emotion, not rational and scientific thought, so I gave an equally emotional response.
what the fuck is wrong with people down-voting this video?
David Morales We can see through the lies .
Can you do a Vaccine Episode on how Vaccines work. Maybe something similar to the Antibiotic Myths Episode.
Thanks! Great videos!!
Bruh vaccines are basically disarmed viruses that get injecyed so that the body learns from the virus without putting the body at risk
You can learn.more about the details of vaccines by watching the "Vaccinations" episode of "Penn & Teller: Bullshit!", which features wonderful arguments against the "vaccines cause autism" myth.
You sir are my Hero! You are well on the way to be up there with the great scientific educators of our age.
Made my day!
Healthcare Triage you are the hero we don't deserve, but definitely the one we need right now
This video stirred a very particular set of emotions in me that are normally not what I experience when someone gets on their high horse to preach to me about the dangers of vaccinations. This video is phenomenal. It does not belittle, it does not shame, and it does not patronize those who do not trust vaccinations (although maybe it should). From the very beginning, Dr. Carroll reminds all of us viewers that he is a Pediatrician, who has spent his entire career caring for sick children, some with, and others without autism, that vaccines are not the cause. Prior to this, he explains the original paper that was published in the Lancet, and outlines the incredibly nonscientific, and disturbingly unreliable lack of measures used to develop the bogus results. Shortly after he pleads for us as humans to stop being caught up in an argument that has been disproven for the past 15 years, and to remember that every cent spent beating that dead horse, is a cent that could be utilized on researching treatments to help autistic children and their families. Furthermore he then spends 5 minutes citing source after source, of credible scientific research that stretches nearly a decade and a half, disproving what was originally published. Only to later inform us that the original researcher made it all up. He modified multiple aspects of the 'paper' to better give the appearance of what he wanted (a causational link between the MMR vaccination and autism). The British Medical Journal finalized their disapproval by later calling the original paper a fraud, and insured the man responsible can no longer practice medicine. Dr. Carroll closes with his opinion; stating it is likely kids have died, because of this fraud. If all of this is not enough to convince someone that vaccinations do not cause autism, then I really don't think anything will. There is so much more to this video than 'trust me, I'm a doctor', and to think of all of the parents who preach the misbelief that vaccinations do in fact cause autism, makes me wonder if they ever stopped to think about what real science has to say.
Every time you upload something on this channel, I share it on my facebook so that MAYBE someone will watch it and realize that not vaccinating their babies is more harmful than they can imagine.
Dr. Carroll, you should have a fan page on Facebook!
Here here!!
Awww. Thanks!
Those on the pro vax side don't get censored.
I’m 16 and I’ve never had a vaccine same for my younger sisters. My mom says my autism wouldn’t have been high-functioning like it is today if I was vaccinated. 🤦♀️😐 welp I hope I don’t die✊🏻🙄
sue her for putting your life in danger lol
Your mom doesn't know what she's talking about. It's a mental illness that comes from the brain not working properly. If you were an 18 month child, with 9 shots of vaccines given to you with extreme amounts of mercury, then your brain would go into an epileptic seizure, possibly making you autistic. I can vouch and say that my cousin, who's only 2, is now borderline autistic due to the vaccines she took.
Get emancipated
AUTISM IS GENETIC YOU STUPID FUCKS
It's very easy to tell who didn't really pay any attention to the video by looking at the comments.
Finally, some actual science. My mind is cleansed.
Anti-vaxxer:the vaccine cause autism
Me:at least autism is better then death
“Meat least” LOL. Not getting vaccinated doesn’t mean you’ll die. The Amish would be extinct by now. The U.S. childhood mortality rate is one of the highest among developed countries despite requiring the most vaccinations. My generation was healthier, and we received a tiny fraction of what kids receive now. We actually got chicken pox and miraculously all survived. As someone who has worked with autistic children, let me remind you that there are teenagers walking around in diapers who are completely non-verbal. So, don’t treat autism like it’s no big deal just because you worship the pharmaceutical industry and want them to keep ramping up the number of mandated shots. .
@@jasryl661 the amish are largely vaccinated. tell us again abut how many kids didn't get measles in your day, didn't get hospitalised by it, didn't die from it.
@Mason Jack nobody says or implies that death is better than autism.
@eeeaten The Amish are counted as vaccinating if they get just one vaccine. It’s a different set of criteria. Amish don’t get 72 doses. They don’t adhere to the schedule. Your argument is irrelevant.
@VividRouge Not true. Also, Polio went away with better sanitation and easy access to clean drinking water. Polio cases were on a a steep decline before the vaccine was introduced.
I know I just put 2 comments BUT...
Vaccine
Vaccone
Vaccon
Vaycon
Baycon
Bacon
Vaccines linked to bacon?
I had a Covid and a flu vaccine recently, and now I’m autistic.
I mean, I was before, but I also am now.
you had me in the first half
I find the fact that the guy who wrote that paper has lost his license hilarious. Warranted and hilarious. Also, I really liked the timeline infographic. The infographics for this channel are pretty great. And all this talk about autism is making me want a SciShow episode on what we know scientifically about it. (I say SciShow and not Healthcare Triage because I feel like SciShow tends to make videos on various aspects of science where as this channel is more viewing an accumulation of various case studies and having the validity of each one confirmed or refuted. I don't think I've ever seen an episode of SciShow done like that, so putting out information like this is important since it NEEDS to be taught. And wow this comment and these parentheses have gone on longer than anticipated.)
his name was Andrew Wakefield, if you want to go look
I hereby propose a collab.
I'd also like to note something about Andrew Wakefield. Not only is he no longer licensed in the UK because of the fraud he comitted, he *cannot* get a medical license in the US. How could anyone trust someone that even the US won't give a medical liscense to?
Hate to say it but it is nightmare if he had been in trouble with the BMA
See here www.nytimes.com/2013/08/12/business/economy/long-slog-for-foreign-doctors-to-practice-in-us.html?smid=pl-share
Dr John Walker Smith had his license restored after winning a lawsuit. He is the one who carried out the testing. The manufacturers forced these doctors to retract because it threatened profits from the MMR when they recommended single do’s measles shots
I'm seeing a lot of people sharing all these claims that artificial sweeteners are not safe and cause all sorts of problems - cancer, digestive problems, diabetes, dizziness, fibromyalgia, headaches, lupus, migraines, ms, muscle spasms, the list goes on and on.
Is there any chance you could address these concerns in a future video? It would be very much appreciated if you could.
Thank you for the videos you have already made, very informative and worth viewing.
Doc... can watching a video of a guy jumping left-right-left-right-left... cause anything? I have this uncontrollable urge to favorite this video... hmmmm.
***** I did that when i was a kid but all i caught was the gay
As I was looking through the health triage videos, this one really seemed to catch my eye. I am currently doing research for a debate in my Philosophy Health Care Ethics class on whether or no parents should be dismissed from the practice of their child if they refuse to get them vaccinate. My group is arguing for this topic and this very subject was a part of our research. Right out of the gates the beginning of this video surprised me. I cannot believe all of this panic is due to only eight children with autism and their parents. I figured there was an abundance of individuals with this issue. I completely agree with the fact that we should be spending the money for this research on children with autism. Researchers are literally wasting money when it could be put too much better use. I find it amusing that so much research has been done that comes to the conclusion that there is no association between vaccines and autism and individuals are still panicking and not vaccinating their children. Once again this study shows that individuals are mixing up causation and correlation. Just because a child gets vaccinated and then later is found to have autism, does not at all mean the vaccine caused the autism. It is completely coincidental, but individuals are always trying to put the blame on someone or something. I could not believe that the original study on the eight children was actually faulty. Who in their right mind who go to that much trouble to put the blame on vaccines for their child having autism? This is crazy if you ask me. All of this time and money that has been wasted on this research could have been used somewhere else. Not only were dates changed, but so was the data. Once again this is seriously ridiculous. I believe it is a tragedy that children do not receive the vaccine due to this “study.”
+Monica Smith "hether or no parents should be dismissed from the practice of their child if they refuse to get them vaccinate." You so-called students of so-called ethics are going to start a civil war.
"I'm not going to take your word for any of this, I don't know you or your medical background. I am going to do my own research and cross examine a range of controlled group studies. Hmph"
^This guy gets it!
"Wrong! A 7 minute video is all the evidence I need to completely dispute the arguement..."
^This guy doesn't...
You're so dumb. It's a 7 minute AND 56 second video, not just 7 minutes. Get your facts right.
Did you block your ears when he gave facts, and group studies giving desputes? Or did your brain shutdown for 7 minutes?
Speedojesus
My money's on Brain shutdown.
No skeptics replied here I see.
Why do we have to be skeptic? It has been proven by evidence and studies that vaccines don't cause autism. It's a simple fact.
"You should always be skeptic about things that are given to you." I don't have to when what is given to, or said to me, is something that is a cold, hard fact. If I am skeptic about something that has facts that are real, then why? Because it might be false?
I love how this guy has done literally nothing but state the facts found from peer reviewed large sample objective academic studies and people are still freaking out about it.
I am a Barber by trade for over 30 years. I have had children who were perfectly normal for the first two years until The parents took their children in for the 2 year old vaccinations, then shortly after the autism symptoms began. It doesn't happen every time, but enough times that it has caught my attention in my many years of Barbering. I would suggest parents wait as long as possible, like to the age of 5 before getting those shots. In 1997 autism rates were 1 in 2500, then in 2017 it is 1 in 68. So something is going on.
And autism is mostly genetic, meaning it's determined when the sperm hits the egg, people can't get autism over time, that isn't how it works. Unless a vaccine can magically rewire someone's brain and DNA overnight.
+dannyvaughn366
So, as a Barber, do you also offer your clients surgical advice? Do you do appendectomies too? No? Then stop fucking giving out medical advice unless you want to get off your lazy ass and get a medical degree first
How does one diagnose Autism??? Answer: physicians diagnose Autism via = observation..... Hence in so much as it takes time for the brain to develop so that the verbal and neurological skills to be evaluated can develop sufficient to be assessed = any subsequent diagnosis of Autism waits until then......
Moral: doctors begin to evaluate for signs of Autism typically at "well-baby checks" = when vaccines are typically administered. This makes your "observation" happenstance.
A child born Autistic will not manifest outward signs of that until some time has passed consistent with the level of impairment. In other words in the cases of mild impairment say the child might be 2 or 3 years old before the signs are noticeable.
@@varyolla435 prolly cause people below the age of 2 act crazy no matter what lol
@@WhatAmIBrewing _"Terrible Twos"_ = parental axiom which has been around a loooong time. 🤭
One of my college professors actually do believe that "researcher" is punished unfairly. She said even if the finding is true, they will still have to discredit him for the greater good.
Sorry but I think Jenny McCarthy knows a little more about science than you do.
to think there's people out there who actually believe her, disgusting
+Tyler Johnson can you deliver a swift left hook to culwin's jaw? I had to look up this "Jenny Mc Carthy" on Wikipedia. It said she's "an American model, television host, comedic actress, author..." but no where did I read anything about her being a medical doctor or scientist. Oh right, that's because she IS a "...anti-vaccine activist."
While, yes, I'm not a medical doctor or a scientist myself. I DO have autism, and I know (for a fact) that VACCINES DO NOT CAUSE AUTISM! AUTISM AND VACCINES DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT! GOOD NIGHT! Troll...
Grrrrrr. :)
Thanks for this. The whole MMR-autism hoax hits me very close to home. My older brother is autistic, and hearing aunts spew tabloid 'science' makes me angrier than anything else. If they just understood the scientific process and what constitutes a causal link, we wouldn't have so much misinformation flying around.
Agree. Its because so many people are misinformed and autistic people hide, or afraid to come out.
The main author is like a god in the anti-vaxx-community, even though he has admitted that the paper was pure theory.
His license is gone and he earns a massive amount of money from those who are badly informed in the matter.
His name can be said! Former Dr. Andrew Wakefield!
He is the devil incarnate. Not really, but I still hate him as if he is.
Pediatricians should have nothing to do with diagnosis. A pediatrician missed my autism, wasnt diagnosed till 15. Pediatricians are simply not capable of proper diagnosis
In 1950 they didn't think that smoking caused cancer. In 2003 the first blu-ray player was made by Sony. Autism is more complicated than a blu-ray player so why should anyone pay any attention to a study done in 1998? In 50 years they might link autism to vaccines just like smoking to cancer. So why take the risk of vaccinating a child before they even have a need for the vaccines they're getting? I'm pro-vaccine but I couldn't see why my newborn had a need for a hep-c vaccine when her mother didn't have hep-c and neither did anyone else we know. Good parenting and just generally being clean is a better option for newborns than vaccinating them for things they don't need. They won't even let you get your kid a tetanus shot before they're 8 but at birth it's perfecting fine to combine it with another vaccine. I'd like for people that respond to this to be constructive and intelligent.
Im just going to say what i know. Somking was linked to cancer well before 1950 and was even used in antisomking posters during ww2. The second point about blue rays and how little we know, i will not addres because it is not constructive to argue about that. When it comes to hep c vaccines. It is because hep c is one of the diseases that can cause chirrosis and malignancy of the liver. Transmission is not easy but if by anyway you get infected there is a more than 30 percent chance of developeing HCC. It is important it is done in a young age so that the child is protected as early as possible.
About the tetanus vaccine, i have no answer because as far as i know. Tetanus is given when the infant is 2, 4, and 6 months old if your using a combination vaccine of diphteria, pertusis and tetanus. Maybe you should ask the person who said that you need to wait. Because tetanus is dangerous
Andreas Suwito
I've had multiple doctors say they can't give my daughter the tetanus vaccine without it being in a combo-shot. It's such bullshit. As for Hep-C, I think it's needed by the time you enter public school for sure.
Shwat Toddle you mean the DTP vaccine? Yes well thats because diphteria and pertusis are also dangerous and is coincidentally close in terms of the scedual of administration. If hep c was required for public school usually dpt is also required because generally hep c vaccine is much more expensive so its usually made optonal in undeveloped contries. At least thats how it is from where im from.
Andreas Suwito
No I'm talking about how the tetanus vaccine isn't available as a single shot before the age of 8. It seems kind of strange to me that it can be given like the DTP vaccine as a mix of multiple vaccines but not singularly. Where are you from? They might do it there but not in the US.
What about vaccination and allergies??
I know vaccinations and autism is totally refuted, but what about allergies??
***** Well the main way we keep polio in check is mosquito control. But there have been localised outbreaks of vaccinatable diseases because people have refused to have their kids vaccinated against things like MMR.
***** I don't see how that answers my question though...
smalltime0
Notably in parts of England and Wales where Measles, Tuberculosis and Mumps have been detected.
+daddyleon
There's allergies in all treatments, think you can get your child tested for allergies and see what he/she is susceptible to.
Apart from that, there is risk in everything, but you certainly don't want your child to catch TB or any of the MMR diseases, it's a risk you have to take.
2DRonaldo I know, I do intent on vaccinating him for everything... although he's not yet born, I worry..
I've heard that doing these vaccinations later might be better, and only slightly...increases the risk.
from what i know if your not allergic to eggs your fine
Fantastic summary of the facts. This will be my go-to recommendation for people who claim that vaccines cause autism. Thanks!
Look up the article bellow this is very strong evidence that vaccines with aborted cell lines do give people autism and freemartins disease . Injecting yourself with genetic fetal tissue via vaccine will cause freemartins disease and autism. Bellow that is an extended list of aborted fetal cell lines used in vaccines.
Blood chimerism in a girl with Down syndrome and possible freemartin effect leading to aplasia of the Müllerian derivatives
N. Bogdanova, U. Siebers, R. Kelsch, A. Markoff, A. Röpke, R. Exeler, J. Tsokas, P. Wieacker
Human Reproduction, Volume 25, Issue 5, May 2010, Pages 1339-1343, doi.org/10.1093/humrep/deq048
Published: 26 February 2010 Article history
Vaccines produced using aborted fetuses
The most widely used fetal cells are WI-38 and MRC-5. The WI-38 cells were derived by Leonard Hayflick in 1962 from the lung of a 3-month female fetus [2]. The initials WI refer to the Wistar Institute, a body of the University of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia, and number 38 to the fetus from which the cells were obtained. The MRC-5 cells were obtained in 1966 from the lungs of a 14-week male fetus [3]. The initials MRC indicate Medical Research Council, a body from London. Other cells derived from surgically-aborted foetuses are: WI-1, WI-3, WI-11, WI-16, WI-18, WI-19, WI-23, WI-24, WI-25, WI-26, WI-27, WI-44, MRC-9, IMR-90, and R-17 (obtained from lung); WI-2, WI-12 and WI-20, (skin and muscle); WI-5 (muscle); WI-8 and WI-14, and WS1 (skin); WI-4, WI-9, WI-10, WI-13 and WI-15 (kidney); WI-6, WI-21 and WI-22 (heart); WI-7 (thymus and thyroids), WI-17 (liver); FHs74Int (small intestine); and PER.C6 (retina)1.
It’s hard not to be angry at people who choose not to vaccinate their kids. However there are many comments here calling parents stupid or moronic. It’s just counterproductive to take this approach. If you call someone stupid, it will only trigger a defensive response. Health professionals are trying to improve health outcomes, and parents are just trying to protect their children from what they believe is harmful (right or wrong). It’s about discussing these beliefs, and educating parents so they can make informed choices about health. Yes its difficult and many people resist, but calling them morons won't change their stance. On another note, thank you for this video.
i'm going into newest first... wish me luck...
Im with you
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All I want to know is what long-term affects mercury and other other metals in vaccines causes.
No information about other metals in here but...
www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/Concerns/Thimerosal/Index.html
Like he said in the video, they took Thimerosal, the preservative in the vaccines that contained mercury, out of the vaccines just in case. I don't know about any other metals being there or not.
What are the long term effects of eating a Tuna Sandwich? They contain more mercury than a vaccine.
What are the long term effects of smoking *one* cigarette? They have more formaldehyde than a vaccine.
*****
Why was that comment directed at me?
***** Because Thymerasol is mercury, did you even listen to what he said? Jesus.
***** Thanks for the input buddy, really productive and educational. Right on.
Is there even any reason at all to not use vaccines?
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If you want to do some research I suggest looking up the ingredients. Didn't know that some vaccines are injecting mercury into you? Well, now you do. Also, for the ones regarding STI (sexually transmitted infections), unless you're sexually active there is absolutely no reason to get them until you are of age, the fact that they hand them out to 10 year old is pointless and just puts them at risk of poisoning.
Almighty Bean Very few vaccines have mercury in them... Most had it removed 2 decades ago. But even whent hey did have it, it was a smaller exposure of mercury than you get from swimming in the ocean... I suggest you look things up, you seem to be misinformed.
I completely agree with the fact that vaccines do not cause autism. It is honestly sickening that a parent would rather have their child become ill, or risk spreading an illness, than have autism. You know what is contagious? Measles, mumps and rubella. You know what isn’t? Autism. MMR is uncommon (thanks to vaccines) but it does still occur, which is why I firmly believe that parents need to vaccinate their children against it. Not sure if anyone is familiar with the case, but there was an outbreak of MMR in California back in 2008. A young child went on vacation in Europe with his family, and became ill when he came home. He went to school, his doctor, a children’s hospital lab, the emergency room, and who knows where else he was. He ended up spreading the disease to other individuals, who then passed it on. He was around many immunocompromised individuals and small children who were not old enough to be vaccinated. He spread the disease to eleven people. ELEVEN. Do you know how many people he would have spread it to if he had been vaccinated? None. The speaker mentions that humans find patterns in everything (causation) and it is EXTREMELY hard to determine causation. The link between vaccines and autism is much like the link between murder rates and ice cream sales. As ice cream sales increase, so do murder rates. They are two completely unrelated subjects, but there is a common variable between them: summertime. There is more heat and light in the summer, so there are more people around. Similarly, as vaccination rates increase, the amount of cases of autism increases. The common variable here? Education.