Timber Food Plots | Establishing New food Plots In Big Timber
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2018
- Habitat consultant Tom James picked up a lease in big timber country. He takes us through the process of establishing new fall food plots in big timber from start to finish.
Using natural openings or areas that are exposed to sunlight is a great way to get food plots installed in hill country; especially if you don't have access to big equipment, or permission to clear trees on a particular property. In this case Tom clears out 6 old logging decks and creates micro food plots that will be attractive all season long!
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Do you cut down trees right up to the edge of the ridge if you are carving out a food plot? Trying to find out how much buffer zone I should leave between a slope of a ridgeline and where it meets the food plot if I am creating a food plot that parallels a ridge
Good question! We actually have a video that will explain this well!!
ruclips.net/video/N4HvR0zlMzI/видео.html
@Whitetail Properties so basically cut the food plot the shape you want and stop where cedars and oak trees are? What if you have alot of cedars and oaks and it would require you to cut them to create food plot?
Good video. I'm in East Texas and doing this exact thing right now in a little strip between timber, hay meadows and a rural neighborhood. I've run into a lot of woody plants, including privet and hardwood saplings that have been brush-hogged for years, and briars, including greenbriar and wild blackberry vines. The herbicide recommendation there is Remedy. Burn it down, add lime and fertilizer as the soil test suggests, and then the suggestion on food plots, at least in this area, was a combination of iron clay peas, arrowleaf clover and winter hardy oats in early September. The peas come on quick and get the deer's attention up to frost making way for their favorite - oats - and then the clover gives a good boon with spring green-up. Good video though. Cheers.
Sounds like you put in some work to get them established! Also, that seed combination sounds great!
discing will usually create a worse weed problem than you would normally have. no till with cover crop is the way to gooo
Agreed! But, we also realize that many people don't have access to no-till drills. We wanted to point out how to establish plots with minimal equipment too.
@@Whitetail_Properties I do no till and i dont have any equipment besides an atv sprayer, atv, and a hand broadcaster.....
@@quinnm.2314 Yes and that is a very good option. In some instances though the thatch leftover on certain sites might not be ideal for good seed to soil contact, especially on the first planting the ground may need to be broken and exposed to get that seed to soil contact.
@@Whitetail_Properties yes this is true. This is why I tend to use smaller seed, however, if you broadcast into standing cover crop and then spray or roll over, then seed is on soil with thatch on top. Discing can be detrimental overtime and I want to have a natural soil buildup of nutrients and micro organisms. Discing strips this away.
Yeah brassicas wont last unless fenced off on that small of a plot, could add cereal rye to fill in the bare spots to keep it attractive through winter. Love clover but usually dies off late, but having the cold hardy oats is a plus. In our area they have so much early food we dont usually do early plots, yes they are good nutrition to growing bucks and the herd but the entire area around is a huge buffet in mixed ag, we focus in on having food when they need it, when everything else around is gone.
Great info , thanks !
My micro plots are close to my property I use pigs. Good diggers plus fertilizer they even plant it with their feet. Bacon did I mention the Bacon lol. Good hunting guys God bless.
You had me at bacon!!
must be nice having heavy equip
Yea we tried to use as little heavy equipment as we could. We just had access to it. Anyone can do this with minimal equipment.
Need to do the same thing in Ohio on a new property
Doug Willard
We hunted this property for this first time last week! The plots turned out great and the deer were hammering them! I would certainly put it on your "to-do-list" next year!
What did you do with the stumps? Just cut them really low?
Yes, thats that all we really could do.
Have you ever planted Canola and if so do you think it would come up in a open woods setting with clover? Awesome video!
We have never planted canola! sounds like an interesting food plot choice. Does the wildlife in your area like it? It is technically a brassica so im sure they do!
@@Whitetail_Properties we have never planted canola seed but I was told it doesn't get as bitter as other brassicas and is more palatable for the Whitetail early.
@@Grizzlife That very interesting! Something for us to certainly keep in mind!
I have plans to establish this exact Clover/Oats plot this fall. My question would be, what is a good rate to broadcast the oats to ensure the clover will still receive sunlight? The plot i'm going to be planting is roughly 0.3 acres.
For our example we did not go light on the oats. The purpose of the oats is to give the first year clover a head start on establishing. Clover is naturally shade tolerant - and will be sparse the first year anyways - so the oats give the deer something to browse on while the clover establishes. Don't worry about the oats shading out or over competing your clover. Then you can come in the following spring and mow the remainder of the oats off and have a nice second year clover plot. You can also come in and frost seed additional clover in late winter to help thicken up the plot if you'd like.
“Minimal effort” yet still requires extensive dozing and burning and soil prep. Helpful video, but FAR FAR from “minimal effort”. This is a colossal effort with lots of man-hours and machinery.
I'd never use round up on my land. Especially on ground that will grow food for something I plan to eat. Just leaf blow then spread the seed. Clover will crowd out weeds and grass.
Roundup is a disgusting thing to put on a piece of land one claims to love.
They play "nature lover" yet put poison on the entire food web.
@@mikeconley9590 shut the fuck up, we use diesel fuel to kill weeds too
@@freedomlawnservice1987 moron. Youprove my point
Easy way to tip a tractor driving around with the bucket all the way up
Negative if you drag arenas etc go full bore with bucket up. Know what your doing and it’s no problem. These guys do this for a living so be best to stay behind your keyboard bud
@@freedomlawnservice1987 there’s no reason to have bucket up. I know what I’m doing as well. You don’t know what I do for a living. Don’t be so quick to judge.
Forgot to mention how you removed the stumps of the trees you cut down.
We did not remove the stumps, just cut the trees down as low as we could and worked around them.
More people should understand that this is tedious work for what fire can do in an hour, and at at a fraction of the price.
We love fire for habitat management and improvement! We have done a handful of videos on controlled burns and controlled burn techniques that you would enjoy! Some situations make fire a little more tricky, though.
Put some glycophate in the deers gut.
Just shooting you straight. Im a hinter in WA state. Big timber has sprayed acres with glyphosphate and its causing elk hoof rot disease.
Thanks for the heads up. Haven't heard of Elk hoof rot disease before. But something to keep in mind
bury don't burn, build soil? why release carbon in to the atmosphere?
Omg I guess you believe in global warming too dumb ass
@@freedomlawnservice1987 no I believe that if you burn every thing you interfere with natural processes that have been building soil on this planet since before we, I was going to say before we developed, Intelligent, but I am not sure, we have yet be cause we still resort to middle school tactics when, trying to make our point! rather than presenting evidence to prove our belief is true!!
@@relentlessmadman Wildfires are natural though. It's a natural part of forest management that humans have been suppressing. Certain ecosystems rely on periodic burning.
Very little tool and there are tractor prints in the dirt. Who they fooling? Come one man...
We said you *can* do this with very fews tools, but that we had access to a tractor so we used one..