Yamaha XJR 1300 :- Swinging Arm Bearings Replacement (1 of 2)!
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- Light on parts, heavy on labour... Why not do this simple job yourself ?
PayPal Tip Cup :- moonfleet10@yahoo.co.uk
Patreon Link:- / delboysgarage
Like many busy channels these days, we support what we do here with the generous help of Patrons who make this channel possible.. We commit 60 hours a week to what we do, and make every video a polished production worthy of our viewer's time and support, We also strive to pass on information and knowledge that our viewers can use to save themselves money and keep their bikes safe on the road too..
If you would like to join the team and help support our online activities, if you have maybe been helped and guided by our videos, or maybe just entertained.. then you can do that from just one dollar a month by clicking the link above and becoming a Patron of the channel...Thank you all so much for your support..
Alternatively If you just want to say thanks for this video alone, you can drop a dollar in our "Tip Cup' by using Paypal to moonfleet10@yahoo.co.uk The money will go to make more videos and keep this channel in your hands and not the advertisers.
Spanner Monkey Tool Site :-www.spanner-mo...
Manchester Grinders :- 2x 48 Belt Sander
www.manchester...
Gedore Red 172 Piece Socket Set:=
www.spanner-mo...
Spanner Monkey Special Offers :-
www.spanner-mo...
Delboy's Garage Merchandise Shop:-
teespring.com/...
Wiha Tools available from RECON Electrical :-
www.reconelect...
Follow us on Facebook :-
/ delboysgarage
..and if you haven't already, then please subscribe :- / moonfleet41
Become a Patron and join the team :-
www.patreon.co...
![COLOMBIA vs. CHILE [4-0] | RESUMEN | ELIMINATORIAS SUDAMERICANAS | FECHA 10](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/TDjN4W3yy1k/mqdefault.jpg)
Good morning Del, without being in any way critical of some of your fabrication videos this is the type of video that initially pulled a lot of us subscribers into Delboy';s Garage. loved it, absolutely loved it. Looking forward to part 2👍
Thanks mate, glad you're looking forward to it!
Watching this you can tell when a bike has not been properly maintained. Always a pleasure to see you working!😊
Thanks mate, you're right, this old girl deserves a new lease of life aye !
05:00 I learned the chain trick from you, almost 10 years ago, as well as how to change break pads and do some basic maintenance of Suzuki Bandit! This is how you launched me into doing the maintenance of the bike, shortly after I got the bike. I have never been to the garage, except to get new tires. I haven't watched the videos for a long time, but I was wondering many times if channel is still active. I am so happy you are doing well and keep making even better videos in a nice garage! 😎
Great video Del.
Have done this job on my 07 XJR. Not the bearings themselves (they did get a clean up), but the chain & sprockets using one of your old videos as reference / inspiration. Ended up with a helicoil in the rear sprocket carrier due to blindly following torque specs - lesson learned!
The XJR is known for leaky clutch slave cylinder - something else that needed doing while it was all in bits.
Sorryt to hear about the stripped thread mate,, i guess the good old "wrist feel" is sometimes better then a tourque spec on an old thread aye.. I have got a clutch slave kit on the way as well just for good measure..! Cheers mate, thanks for sharing your experience.
The chuckle at the rear calliper said it all really 😊😊
Sure thing Nick, what a shocking mess that's in aye?!
Yep, ran hard and put away wet.
Such a joy to watch, no time wasting no silly chat just great methodical spannering.
Thank you mate, appreciate your kind words!
Looks like every job I do Del. Start something and I end up waiting for parts for something else. Real life no editing.
Totally agree mate, one job somehow always leads in to the next!
Great diagnosis on the swingarm bearing Del and then find further problems with it love the content on this channel
Thank you so much, we're glad you appreciate it!
I need to invest in that bearing puller set.
Me too!!
Great video, D & P, too bad things were let to go so far without some care....always enjoy seeing you bring these things back to health! Best to you both!
Thank you so much Allen, we're glad you enjoy the content... hoping you're getting some nice weather there now, we all deserve a little summer in the end! Take care and ride safe, D&Px
Great video yet again Del. Really look forward to watching your series!
Hi Del, nice work as usual! The bike has been seriously neglected over the years. What you say about doing jobs yourself and saving money is correct! These jobs are expensive to get done which is why they get neglected. I like to do everything myself too and I always do a major service every time as it doesn't cost that much more than a minor, only brake fluid every time and a bit of grease, brake cleaner and copper slip! The rest is just your time. 👍 Now to start looking at bearing extractor sets instead of drifting them out 😀
I think, perhaps, neglected maybe... but also I think it's just been a work horse for someone... a daily rider to go and earn a crust and not the owner's premium bike.. Hoping to have it back on the road in fine fettle before the end of the summer!
@@Moonfleet41 I was blessed to have an engineer Dad, he taught me from my first bike onwards and was always there to help when I got stuck. If it wasn't for him I would have struggled and had to of paid someone for some jobs. I look forward to following this through to completion. Cheers Del 👍
Thanks mate, I learned from my Dad too, old school principles which I use today! Thanks for your kind support.
Did the exact job on my xjr last month. Had the exact issue with the groove on the bush. I polished it and got it smooth (there wasn't as much rust as on yours) but still the groove is in there. I couldn't afford to have the bike off the road so just replaced the bearings, cleaned an greased everything properly. The play in the swing arm was significantly reduced but I can still feel a tiny bit. I've done about 200 miles since the job and after seeing your video decided to bite the bullet, purchased the bush and will slide it in. I am now hoping the bearing where the little groove was is still ok....what do you reckon?
Yes mate, that will be fine, good decision, you should have no play in there at all after you've fitted the new tube.
@@Moonfleet41 the tube has arrived and fitted. Zero play. Very chuffed. I’d say if there is any play always go for the bearings with the bushing. Not worth the risk. I’d imaging this kind of play wrecks the chain as there is not even amount of tension.
@@kamsmag It won't rerally do that asd the chain never had constant tnetion anyway, always varying with suspension movement and power deliver.. but any play will misalign the wheels and effect the steering.. which is never desireable lol... and of course, the back and forth hammering on the new bearing will wreck it in no time..! Good choice mate, job done aye.
Outstanding. It may seem mundane and boring to some, but to me, it's meditation and calmness. I love it.
Couldn't agree more, there is nothing so satifying as refreshing old parts..
@@Moonfleet41Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance :)
wowser!!!
I've seen similar on OLAF bike - xj900s - back ion mid 2014.
Those needle bearings are a pain. Theres about 6x in the shock linkage and swing arm hook up on the Divis. You can get all but 1x bearing
from various places. I've managed to source that missing bearing from The Hayley Group, Bearing Specialists, in Festival parkm Stoke on Trent. 10min walk or 2 min motorcycle ride.
Yambits are great for parts for older Yammys. I've used them for my 1985 Yamaha FZ750 along with all 3 of my divi 900's hehehe
great to see Penny is there.
Fabulous to see Shes back on her bike.
Thank you for sharing that insight, and yes, yambits have be wonderful, fast helpful sertvice and great value.. They are the standard..
I work on a XJR 1300 swing arm to for my project ! Like your video, you help me a lot. Keep Going 🦾
Great to hear!
Yeah that’s had it! Great to watch your videos again, I’ve been away for a bit doing motorhome stuff but getting back into bike maintenance/restoration again after selling my dragstar yesterday. Time to bring out the classic Kawasaki from under the cover and do some work on her.
Welcome back mate, have fun with your project!
Hi Del & Penny, hope all is well over your side. Nice how to video mate. I can see a lot of people marking this one for another day down the line, bad luck with the bearing spacer mate, but you and I know that's life with old bikes. Enjoy the last part of your week and stay safe. Cheers
Thanks mate, glad you approve, my bad, I really should have ordered the spacer with the bearings seeing how much playe was there, it was practically like a dog wagging a tail!... my bad, lesson learned! Have a great week, stay safe, D&Px
Del, it's easy to solder the worn shaft and then grind it in the lathe !
Wow, that's some hard riding on that bike,
It sure is!
Hi Del, I had the same issue with my thunderace, new bearings, new tube and I drilled and tapped a greese nipple into the cavity where the tube sits, job done.
P.s. great video as always.
Good thinking mate, you could l iterally push the grime out with that, may pop one in mine for good measure!
Well that certainly hasn't been a dry Sunday cruiser!
Great to see this series starting Del.
✌️❤️🤗
Thanks buddy.. you're right, this guy didn't treat it like a polished little princess pony aye..lol.
Lovely video mr delboy. Waiting for part 2.
Thank You!
Nice one Del 👍
A useful and informative video as always 👍
Keep up the brilliant work Del 'n' Pen 👍
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it.
Not surprised to see the carnage. A bad bearing has to engage with something! Luckily for me when I inspected mine everything just needed a good clean and repacked with grease.
Yes indeed, I don't think it was as bad as it could have been given that the rollers broke up, but nevertheless, it's still the worse one I've ever changed!
ive owned an xjr12 since new in 1998, over the last 26 years ive been through the things you are doing and are about to do, on top of it these days, done just shy of 70,000 miles on it, and just a word about the clutch slave cilinder seals, if they haven gone, they will, dont ride it so much these days, getting old and its heavy to push around, apart from the usuals its been a good old bus, nowadays its an xt600e mostly, they are another story, i know the xt600 very well, and what goes wrong, all bikes have weak and good points, ive been on bikes since 1978.
Thanks for your input mate, and for sharing your experience... I guess with so long owning one bike you'll get to know all it's little fiobles and habits, and that's what helps you keep it on the road. I do know about the Slave Cylinder and it is on the list!!
Used bikes almost ALWAYS need swingarm bearings. Seems like almost no one does them for some reason. I find it to be highly rewarding to do them myself. Like you said, it’s not a lot of money.
Exactly that Jason, i feel the same, really satisfying job, and cheap on parts.
All a mess Del, you never know what you will find but as always you are tackling it right 👍
Very true Richard, be prepared for anything aye!
Del, I have to remind you that you have a lathe?... carbon steel... take the size of the shaft according to the specifications in the bearing catalog... thermal treatment to harden the metal (heating and oil bath)... polishing the last microns for final size. But you already know that.
The camera work & editing for the swingarm pivot shaft removal was very 'thingy', - well done.
Seeing the appalling lack of maintenance on such a powerful machine, hats off to Yamaha's designers for building something that didn't throw it's owner through the chip shop windows.
No wonder he/she rode it on straight roads. Maybe, like us, they grew up on '70s flexy-flyers' & thought the weaving about was fairly normal for a big bike? Takes all sorts eh? - Carry on : )xx
Yeah, maybe thunk it was "authentic chassis flexibility"..
Looks about right for an old Yam - the caged roller bearings on my 1998 900 Diversion's swingarm (different beast being a shaftie with a monoshock) had rusted out completely but somehow it had passed the MOT a year previously (it was SORNed when I acquired it though). Not taking anything away from Yambits 'cos they are excellent but I discovered that the bearings are industry-standard items and bought new ones for a fraction of the cost YB wanted. Looking forward to Pt 2 👍
Had the most amazing service from the so far, even with the last minute order for the tube i now needed, turned up in under 24 hours, free postage (even though it was my fault for not ordering the full kit).. not too sure about the history of this bike as the bearings they sent me are identical brand to those that fell out.. so either they sent me factory spec ones, or they've been replaced already..lol!
That`s a real pain in the arse, on my old GS750DB, the swing arm bearings were of the 3 piece veriety. Inner and outer races with roller bearings inside, and the axle went through the central race, with a distance tube between the 2. It`s a shame the XJR does`nt have the same, as it would have saved time and expense.
It`s amazing amazing how just a decent clean can ad value to an older bike.
Looking forward to the rest of the series, as i like big muscle bikes like the XJR, and the GSX1400.
You're dead right mate, those old heavyweight bearings just lasted forever... I just don't understand needle rollers, I've never seemed to stop replacing them in one bike or another!
Great as usual dell. But could you show alternative methods to removing the bearings for those of us lucky enough to have expensive pullers and presses. Just a thought. Nessesity sometimes being the mother of invention . Cheers 👍👍👍
It seems that most of the time, the bearings that get damaged are on the chain drive side but never have I seen that much damage that bad. Not that I've done loads but the 3 or 4 times I've replaced the swing arm bearings never have I seen that. I hope you find one cos I'm interested in this restoration bruv. Take care and be good both of you. 😉
Sure thing Ray, me too, changed many of these over the years, and never seen them totally fallen to bits and broken up.. and yeah, it's usually the drive side that gets most wear aye.. Thanks for your support mate, always good to hear from you. D&Px
Del, can I ask a question?
I own a ZRX1200 and my front tire always the sides are worn more than the center, the tire is basically V-shaped now. What is wrong? What should I check? Thanks. Have a good day with new project)
Dual compound tyres perhaps?
It's nice to see someone with the word ' garage ' in their channel name live up to that. Many don't.
Great vid👍
Great stuff - properly sorted if a jobs worth doing...........
Take care both of you
Sure thing mate, great to know it's all good again now!
Surprise, surprise. But we all suspected that the huge play of the swinging arm had had some nasty side effect. But you will fix it. And we love to see your next episode. All the best, mate. Günter/Nürnberg
Thank you kindly Sir, I intend to try and fix my way through all these little jobs and also going to do it using the most basic tools possible to keep all the jobs home manageable!
Them needle bearing have seen better days from birth really, and 100% bar wants changing, well done
Great video Dell. Appreciated as always.
Thanks Shaun👍
Bit of a bummer but needs must! Definitely best to replace whilst you’re in there 👏🏻
Definitely mate.. no point in cutting corners that will come hit you in the ear down the line aye !
The extra work involved for the sake of making a quality video is very much appreciated. Makes a big job even bigger. You and Penny are masters at doing things right. Interesting how often you see such a difference in wear on two sides of the same part (and not just on motorcycles where the drive is only on one side). Science, I guess. 😁This is going to be a great series! Thanks Del and Penny! ❤👍👍
Thanks Rick, glad you appreciate it... I was a little shocked at the one sided wear, but perhaps it was just some over enthusiastic pressure washing that forced the water in and then nature did the rest?! Thanks for all your support, you're right, making the videos and getting the shots takes more than half the time we spend in the garage, it's great to know it's recognised! Have a great week, D&Px
The irony of the tuning fork ping of the bearing puller while working on a Yamaha. 😉
Aha, fine observation Sir, well spotted!
On a new bike it's a good way to see what all the gubbins are like while taking them off. A lot of those fasteners look crudy.
Cheers Delboy Great video
Most welcome!
You can fill the worn pipe with electrowelding and then dimension it on the lathe ... cheap and easy !
Had an SR500 with a very immovable swing arm spindle no amount of heating or imploring with various sizes of hammer ( even up to a fence post sledge ! ) would convince it to budge , in the end nothing else for it but to cut the thing into pieces to finally force what was left out of each side , the grease nipple was missing so no lube Dryzabone
Never been that close to a fail... they usually come out in one piece, but most are a challenge..!
Out of curiosity dell undoing the swing arm nut would pulling your body weight down on the breaker bar give you more force istead of pushing the bar ? But the inner bearing arm/spindle was well past its best.
It's pretty snug against the frame that main nut.. and pulling down means the breaker bar handle is right next to the tank (the totally undented tank lol), so this way im miles away from a desaterous slip.. anyway, it's good excersize aye..lol !
If it works it works mate I used your phrase the other week need a tool make a tool and made some spring clamps for the rear shock on my pan
Del can you direct me to that video you did about people participating in events. The one where you were rising and telling everyone about how you organised events where people would just show up and then go early ?? . I thaught you explained it well and I want to share it with others I know
Love these type of videos!!!!
As ever dell top work and great viewing.
Thank you Paul !
Dell your work is outstanding
Thank You.
Great video would this be similar on a st1100 swing arm all though this is shaft driven. I have all the bearings to do on this bike and bought all the right tools to do them but it feels a bit nerve racking thanks.
Yes mate, swing arm bearings are pretty generic, there may be some slightly different anatomy, bearings may look slightly different, not sure you may have a third one on the drive side, but fundamentaly the principles are similar... best of luck with it!
@@Moonfleet41 many thanks watching you videos have given me the inspiration to work on my 2 bikes.
I’m surprised the tire didn’t show the wear on the carrier spindle especially since it was all one side was the worn end sprocket side 👍
Great video Del, that bike must have felt pretty mushy with that wear/breakage. Dis the chain and sprocket suffer from that as well? Enjoyed and looking forward to next instalment, cheers and keep the shiny side up!
It sure did mate, it felt vague rolling on and off the throttle, I guess the back end was literally wagging, like a rear end steer lol I don't think at any point the back wheel was mis-aligned enough to adversely wear the chain, or sprockets, but it's worn out anyway so all getting replaced!
Thankfully, I don't have to do mine, but I'm putting off the inevitable with the short link bearing.
Just a thought Del with your well established lathe skills. Could you not turn one?
I'm not sure about metallurgy and whether they are made of hardened steel or not. But couldn't you have a go at turning one?
Great video once again. Del and Penny x
Hi Marc, they are made from heat treated hardened steel and need to be as hard as the bearings themselves, so there's no way an amateur could make one without some serious experience in toolmaking! Thanks for your support and have a great week, D&Px
That bike needs work but great to watch u rebuild it
Thanks mate, gonna enjoy it.
Just watching it now good video del and penny
Thanks Thomas, that's very kind of you!
A couple of barrels of degreaser and a few cans of wd40 by the looks of it Del.👍
Excellent video , very informative 👍 and I don't even own an XJR 😂
Glad you enjoyed it!
Would love to see you machine a new sleeve. Great Video.
Machining one would be no real challenge, but heat treating it properly would be a whole nother matter, way beyound my skill set!
Great how to video Del ! also a warning on what happens if you neglect to maintain your bike! Keep up the great videos mate👍
Thanks mate, wise words indeed..
Nice little video Del, see you next time.
Thanks for watching mate, we will do!
Top score, Del!
Forks for phase 2? 👌🏼
Will build the rear end back up, refurbishing my way through everything, so possibly rear wheel bearings next!
Looking forward to it 👍🏼@@Moonfleet41
Brutal.
Man she's dirty!........reminds me of an ex courier CX 500 I bought back in the day as a fixer upper - probably a bit worse than that but the engine oil came out looking like that chain wax packed in the sprocket cover lol. Worse case scenario you can get a new shaft machined if you cant find one (but you know that obvs) 👍
Sure thing mate, fast forward, I've thankfully found the inside tube, seems it's as available as the bearings are, think I'll be buying them together in future!
Good lord, Del! Is it any wonder that swing arm had so much side to side free play?! Those old ass needle bearings were shot to shit!
They were indeed, that is those that were left anyway lol. Great to get it all byutoned up again!
WOW Did the previous owner not know what degreaser is for the chain???? Bleedin' Heck that was bad... Im so fantatical about cleaning chainlube off.... Every 6 months I pull the side cover off and have a looksie... If there is a slight build up, out comes the degreaser and cleaning brush....
OH those bearings and the inner bearing sleeve..... CRINGE....
I am not sure what you think right now.... But I am thinking there is going to be a lot more needed to be done to this bike than first appearances show.... Which is great for your channel and content!!! 😎
You're right, chain lube build up is a detrimental thing, it collects grit, turns into a grinding paste and ends up living on the chain! Like you say, always good to clean it. Going to work through all the cycle parts and repair what we find...
Hopefully u find a replacement
Having an old bike like this and not maintaining it is like having a pitbull and keeping it locked up for 23 hrs a day, eventually it will bite you in the ass and cause major damage. You are lucky in a way to have the MOT check for bikes in the UK, over here in Ireland we have absolutely no yearly MOT for motorbikes only cars and unfortunately there is a high percentage of bikes that aren't suitable for the road because of it. Excellent in details video btw.
Thanks mate, would you believe this bike has about 7mths MOT, meaning it only passed 5mths ago, I can't believe those bearings were still good only 5mths ago... either way, they'll be new once this is all re-fitted and good to go! Thanks for sharing your insight...
That bike wins for most caked on chain grease in the world! 🤢
Would it be possible for you to do a lathe project for the inner tube, or is it easier to source one?
It would have been nice to make one. but they're heat treated hardened steel, same as a bearing, , bit beyond my skill level..
😎👍
It never fails, brother. An "easy" job gets derailed by something that was hidden. Good thing you're showing all the issues that could happen rather than just slapping it back together. It's all about safety and knowing what precautions need to be taken so every rider has the peace of mind that it's all good when you hit the road. This is why YOU ROCK! Hope all is well with you and Miss Penny. Glad to hear she's back on 2 wheels! Cheers!
Hi there Doc, great to hear from you as always brother, and you know what they say, we are always just one snapped bolt away from a 3 day ordeal!! But that's wrenching for you, you need a sense of humour and a wallet the size of Utah lol Take care both of you and stay safe over there, D&Px
Hiya Penny and Del - awesome video! This is one of the major jobs I would never have tackled before channels like yours gave me the information and, just as importantly, the confidence to do it right. I thank you, my sense of accomplishment thanks you, and my bike budget thanks you for all of the the instructional and inspiring videos you have shared though the years. Take care, dear friends. Be well and ride safe!
Our pleasure kind sir, it's an honour indeed to be able to inspire our fellow riders and spread a little basic knowledge to help out. Keep spannering / wrenching, and enjoy every facet of your bike ownership.. Take care too and God Bless.. D&Pxx
lucky my bikes only 2 years old - you have too rebuild old bikes from the ground up ok if you luck doing it
Sure thing mate, thankfully I do!
£165 for that bearing puller :O
...and i must have used it 100 times since i bought it..! pretty good value aye.!
but i will be covering simpler methods for those who don't invest in such tools in the coming videos of the series. !
In 🇬🇧 esistono moto senza ruggine?
No wonder there was such a lot of wobble....... bit of a mess aye!
Yeah, not seen them that bad before.
I’ve always liked the late 90’s early noughties Japanese muscle & Superbikes, but jeezo rectifying previous chimp’s handy work or sheer lack of maintenance gets a little disheartening sometimes. Latest fun and games, wheel bearings on a ZZR600 that looked as if they’d been installed with a brick and fork seals put in over pitted stanchions………..lawd give me strength 🙏😵💫🫣🤬
You and me both mate.. much tomfoolery abounds when you see what some owners get up to.. little strips of cloth tucked under leaking fork seals, chains with two split links in, and wheel bearings to tightly packed with grease it's oozing out everywhere and pushing the duest seals off... i just smile and move on, it will always happen aye..lol!
Why not wash the bike first?
That amount of thick chewy chain stodge doesn't just wash it mate.. and why trash all your bike cleaning equipment even trying..!
Looks like the previous owner used and abused that bike. 😮
Not sure about abused, but certainly neglected for sure!
@@Moonfleet41 neglected is probably a better word.
I’m surprised the tire didn’t show the wear on the carrier spindle especially since it was all one side was the worn end sprocket side 👍
The tyres are worn flat in the centre and the rear one is only about 6mths old so I'd say that was pretty conclusive!