If you enjoyed this video, please “Like” and share to help increase its reach! Thanks for watching 😊TIMESTAMPS for convenience: 0:00 Introduction To Persimmon Trees 1:16 About The Giombo Persimmon Tree 2:35 How To Harvest A Persimmon 5:04 Giombo Persimmon Taste Test 6:55 Giombo Persimmon Flavor Profile 10:18 Adventures With Dale
Hey man. I lived in korea and would buy the really gooey persimmon on discount when its almost too old. Just put them in the freezer and then let it dethaw 15 minutes before eating... Its incredible
You can also put persimmons (astringent or not) that is still a bit hard in the freezer for few hours, until it is totally hard. Once out and defrost they will be soft and sweet and easy to eat.
The feeling of finally harvesting fruit from a tree you've put years of work into is so special. I finally got my first crop of fruit from my figs I started in 2021 and it is incredible how much better they taste than grocery store figs. Congratulations on the giombo!
Grocery store figs are so terrible. They're picked so many days underripe they taste like grass 😧 I feel bad for folks not growing figs because they think they won't like them based on what they've experienced at grocery stores. A perfectly ripe fig right off a tree is an unforgettable experience. It's like your first ice cream cone.
I agree with you that this is the connoisseur's persimmon... I'm in zone 7 and had troubles growing them. BTW I love your videos for many reasons, but especially for how intelligent you are.
Thanks for the informative video, this is also my favorite fruit. I have 4 varieties; Izu, Fuyu, Jiro and an astringent Hachiya. I also grow many different Figs (11 varieties), PawPaws, Feijoa, Blue/Black Red Raspberries, diff grapes varieties, pluots, apricots, nectarines, apples, plums, pears and I'm sure I'm leaving some out
It was a special piece of fruit. It's always an interesting experience having your first fruit right off a tree from a fruit you cannot find in grocery stores.
I love persimmons and every year I wait for my favorite Asian grocery store to sell them. I finally planted a persimmon this year. Zone five, tho. Will see. I also planted Methley plum trees. Am hoping for a great backyard orchard.
Just wondering,,, what state are You in? (zone 5) So your starting an orchard?? N E Ohio here. (Ohio Columbiana SWCD for my trees. Hint ;> ) I planted 5 Persimmons trees on the outside perimeter of my garden 2 years ago. I tossed them in with lots of mulch and composted manure in the soil & they are growing like weeds! I'm hoping that I'll get to see some flowers next year.? My Figs grow like 6-7' every year, but they just don't have enough 'season' to get ripe. My 4yo Pawpaws are also growing crazy. 7' tall now. 2 of them had flowers last year, but no fruit yet.? FYI,,, I have 3 different varieties of Asian pears in my orchard and this year, the production was outstanding. Unbelievable sweet & juicy,,,, last nights freeze will end their exceptional season. I also started 4 different variety of late season apples. They are really getting sweet right now. I'm kinda glad for some colder weather, 'cause those massive European wasps & Yellow Jackets were eating them by the dozens,,, right off the trees! My black raspberries, on the E side of my garage were HUGE,,,, big as a thumb! 4 different grapes. I had a decent production this year. Gotta constantly spray,,, 3 different diseases to watch out for! I HAD 5 different varieties of plum trees in my orchard, & every tree but one is now gone. BLACK KNOT CANKER ROT, whatever. www.epicgardening.com/plum-tree-diseases/ FWIW,,, I'm just giving you a heads-up warning,,,, loosing all of my plum trees after years of trying to save them, is a heart breaker. Maybe, just stick to apples, pears, cherries,,, & English Walnuts, Heartnuts & chestnuts,, & in 10 years or so, you'll be able to sit back & enjoy them all, without as much of the headaches & problems that plums cause. ;>) Keep us posted!?
@@jdoboy6835 I'm in NY, near Albany. I hope something does well. My garden has one persimmon, hazelnut (one tree), two methleys, one muscadine grape (along with a wild grape that keeps popping up nearby), Pear, (which keeps exchanging rust fungi with the juniper), tart cherry. Three of my haskeps died leaving one which is lovely to look at but pretty much useless without a partner. The critters killed my sweet cherry and my gala apple tree. Nibbled to death. I have figs but only the Longue D'aout gave me pears this year. My ground cherries grew wonderfully but never ripened and are still all green. Tart cherry, lilacs, are blossoming in the fall for some reason. I h aven't pulled up my Jerusalem artichokes yet.
This fruit is so unbelievably good. Most of us have only had food from grocery stores. If that's all you've ever tasted, it's mindblowing that something this good can just come right off a tree. This is better than 90% of the baked treats that are bad for health. If only people knew the most delicious candy can come right off a tree and it's actually fairly healthy...
Your eyes said it all, congratulations 😊 I recently harvested my first chocolate persimmon and fuyu persimmons. They were so delicious, I am so looking forward to next season.
@@TheMillennialGardenerSir, which types is better to harvest and eat, Fuyu persimmon or hachiya persimmon fruit. And which is more tastier fuyu types or hachiya types. Please tell me sir.
You aren't kidding when you say unripe ones will dry your mouth. I bit into (just breaking the skin, mind you, not an actual bite) an unripe wild American persimmon and my entire mouth was instantly devoid of moisture! It was the oddest sensation but all the moisture was sucked out of my mouth in about 1 second! My lips stuck to my gums. Very weird. I appreciate your thorough reactions and descriptions. So many say things like, "It's sweet," or "tastes like candy." What does that mean? Keep up the good work.
It is almost like inhaling rubbing alcohol. But your mouth feels like a wine cork wrapped in an oily rag 😂 I’ve had a few American persimmons drop that weren’t quite ripe and YEEESH! It’s hard to believe something that tastes that awful can ripen into one of the finest fruits on Earth.
Hello from Portugal, I have a persimmon tree similar to yours, perhaps another variety, it is a large tree that is 20 years old. I've never seen a fruit with seeds, but I don't know what happened, that this year some fruits have up to 6 seeds. I started harvesting fruits at the beginning of September and immediately sowed the first ones, which germinated after a month and are now small plants. This tree, when I let it grow, gives me hundreds of fruits. Goodbye and thanks for the videos
My Hiaycha tree will likely have 200 fruits this year, all about one pound. I’m in zone 8 and also have two highly productive FUYu persimmon trees. I often pick the Hiachya when they are firm and let them ripen till soft. Dehydrate the persimmons and put them im vacuum bags in the freezer. They are a treat lasting months….
I’ve got an astringent saijo, in the ground for three years. Due to two late freezes, no flowers yet. I’m hoping next year is the year! I planted a non astringent suruga this year. Can’t wait! Congratulations on your harvest!
I would recommend you protect it with shade cloth all winter: ruclips.net/video/z7BYtRlmpCE/видео.htmlsi=HkzRh4p2AqwHy85h Keeping your trees under shade cloth will keep them dormant for weeks longer and it prevents late freeze damage.
I grow Fuyu persimmon, non astringent..8a TX …amazing! My biggest lesson…pruning is essential as the wood must be soft…the limbs break easily! I use this fruit in several canning recipes, pickled they are fantastic.., pie filling that is just indescribable… , and of course eating fresh…no pest issue at all so very easy to grow organic. However… I made the mistake of letting my four trees grow and not pruning them…i have two trees left… if you dont keep them pruned in my experience the wood must be soft and they will split and break up and die. I plan to replant two trees to replace the two I lost. They are soooooo good and they can handle the extreme heat and droughts we face here in Texas. That alone is huge!!
Persimmons respond very well to pruning. They form their fruit on the new year's wood, so establishing lateral branching and cutting them back to encourage new spring growth yields more fruit (sort of like figs). If you like Fuyu, you have to plant an astringent type. Fuyu is good, but the astringent types are on a whole different level. This Giombo blows the non-astringents out of the water. I like my non-astringent Jiro better than Fuyu, but this Giombo makes me want to forget all about Jiro 😂 Something like a Giombo or Hachiya would blow your mind if you love persimmons. If I ever get more land one day, I want to grow Coffee Cake and Chocolate and have them pollenize each other. It will make them seedy, but it's supposed to enhance the flavor and make them dark.
I think maybe I had this variety but we moved and it was too large to move. It was at at a prior house for one year and we dragged it out of the ground with a truck and replanted it and every EVERY it produced delicious fruit with no care (planted in clay). I hated to leave it, but thanks to you I am going to buy another one! We must stop moving.
Howdy MG! I knew it was good when you went speechless.😄 I'm still taking in all your knowledge before choosing a persimmon tree for our edible landscape. The one our neighbor had was at least 20 feet tall and had the shape of the fruit on the tree you showed us. What a great gardening buddy Dale is. He's just so cute...adorable!😃🐕💕
If you let a Giombo tree go unpruned, it will eventually reach close to 20 feet tall. If I had to guess, your neighbor's tree was probably a Hachiya persimmon. They are a similar shape and very common. If you find an astringent persimmon at a big box store, chances are it'll be a Hachiya. Giombo is much less common, but it's become easier to find online. If you're willing to prune annually, you can easily keep it around 10 feet. Dale takes his job very seriously. He's always on the clock pawtrolling and pawtecting.
Very cool. There's nothing like enjoying the sweetness and flavor of something new you've grown yourself. I'm surprised you're not growing muscadine grapes. Seems like your climate would be perfect for them. I'm finally harvesting muscadine grapes in my greenhouse in Seattle, after tending the vines for 2.5 years.
I don’t like the muscadine flavor. I’m growing some old American grapes, and I just added a new variety last month. The muscadines just aren’t my thing.
in North Central FL my yard is full of muscadine vines but I never saw one grape ... what is the secret? The previous owner of my home told me he planted 25 years ago,I tore a lot of it out the vines were covering everything in its path ... but no grapes???
@@ooohlaa13 Sounds like you only have a single gender of muscadine - either male or female. Only female vines and self-fertile vines set fruit, but the female vines need a male vine (or a self-fertile vine) within 50 feet for pollination. I'm growing six varieties. Four of them are self-fertile and two are female. *Self-fertile:* Ison Cowart Dixie Red Ruby Crisp *Female:* Darlene Supreme
hmmm strange because the guy I bought the house from specifically said I will love the grapes and in 21 years I never saw a 1 ... he was not a bs guy loved his garden so something else is up I think this is the only grape that will grow in North Central FL?@@firecloud77
FYI the astringent persimmon easily ripens to gooey goodness sitting on my counter several days to a week or longer till it's soft at the stem end and no astringency at all. I usually always do this because it eat skin and all the finger-licking goo. Or with a spoon. Yummy 😘👍 Looking for trees now in San Diego, CA Thanks for your great detailed information ❣️
I do believe you can safely pick before fully ripe. In store they're normally not because of shelf life. So pick the ones with deepest uniform color and they can ripen on your counter, or even on top of your fridge. You can also put them in your freezer for 24 hrs and they will be ripe when thawed. Something about protecting from early frosts. And I've often found one yo several seeds about 1/2 size and of an shape a shelled almond. And my face always looks like your first bite!!!😄
Mangosteen, star apple, logan, lychee, sugar apple, wax jambu, sweet kumquat, sweet satsuma, loquat, & some varieties of mangoes are tropical fruits of heaven.
I don't have a persimmon tree but I do buy these at the farmer's market out here in central California and make cookies out of them in the beginning of December. I hand the cookies out as gifts.
Congratulations on the Giombo, mine was just planted last fall, but I already have hychiya and saijo already bearing and my first fruit on a fuyu which I also planted last fall. I'm trying to find a gwang yang.
I love Persimmon only this kind it's delicious Vs the little flat round ones. Yes that is when it's ready to eat SUPER soft and sweet. I get them at Cambdian/ Vietnam stores when in season. I'm Cambodian we love to eat them lol
The American persimmons are definitely good in their own way, but the Asian persimmons are magical. They actually make me look forward to Fall. I wait all year for them.
I have a mature Hachiya persimmon. The first few years that it fruited, the fruits were still astringent even when mushy soft. The ones that ripest latest in the season seemed to lose astringency but were really boring. The next year I tried Hoshigaki with them, and I like them a lot better that way. They aren't the most incredible, but certainly worth keeping and is a fruit that is available at a time of year when not a lot of other fruits are available. I've got a self-fertile american persimmon that I planted last year that I can't wait to taste.
A little trick to accelerate maturity of astringent persimmon: Store the fruits once they turn orange but still hard in a gastight container with a few mililitres per fruit of strong alcool (rhum, vodka,...), and wait for 3 to 4 days at room temperature. The low concentration of ethanol in the closed atmosphere will be absorbed and will catalyse the enzymatic reaction of hydrolysis of tannin subtances into sugars.
"The low concentration of ethanol in the closed atmosphere will be absorbed and will catalyst the enzymatic reaction of hydrolysis of tannin substances into sugars." WOW,,,, Really? How can we prove that one? Here's why,,,,, My hobby is growing fruit & nut trees from seed. My family & I love to eat chestnuts, & English walnuts, uncooked, 'raw'. Usually, it takes about 2-3 weeks for the chestnuts to sun/ air dry, age, & sweeten into a very caramel like nutty flavor. (Chinees varieties sweeten up the best). IF, what you say is true, maybe your 'adding alcohol' process would work even better with the tannins & starches in these nuts? Very Interesting!? ;>)
I don't know if it works with nuts, but the "ethanol process" occurs also naturally on persimon trees: The first persimmons that rippen are the ones with cracked or damaged skin; In direct contact of the flesh with mold and yeast from ambiant air, fermentation occurs... @@jdoboy6835
Wow, that looked incredible! Congrats! I would like to try that variety someday. I don’t think I’ve seen it for sale over here in the UK before, but I will keep an eye out for it 👍
Wonderful Sir. What is the average weight of a fruit of this variety? Fuyu persimmon is also better but don't become jell like soft and for many days it keeps hard though nonastringent though dominating Indian market . What is ideal climate for this Asian persimmon please? Thanks and regards from India. God bless. Looks oval shaped and very attractive. 👌👍❤️🙏🙏
On sale locally were the 'astringent' persimmons this year 2023; if you have had caimates (Kaimate or chrysophyllum caimate) which are purple 'star fruits', the taste, texture and even 'astringent' quality is similar. Thanks for posting.
I am putting in an ichi ki kei jiro thanks to your helpful content. The sunniest planting location for it is along a fence line in my landscape. I see you planted yours along a fenceline as well. How far away from the fence would you recommend planting ichi ki kei jiro? Thanks so much!
Minimum 30 inches, but giving yourself 4 feet will be advantageous, if you can. Ichi Ki Kei Jiro is one of the smallest persimmons, so it's quite easy to maintain as a small tree. You will need to prune it annually to keep it well-balanced and small.
No you don't eat the skin. I am going to grow a few this coming spring. Thanks for sharing your experience. Your videos are the best, authentic and educational.
You can definitely eat the skin. It's delicious! The texture and taste is great. I would never scoop out the insides and not eat the skin. It's just too good. Thanks for watching!
I don't have persimmon tree yet. You're making me really want one, however I prefer the crunchy type. Any you suggest for N. Texas, Zone 8? Btw, your face was epic. That'd how I felt eating nectarines off my tree this year.😊
Love your channel I even ordered another tree which I got yesterday and it's a mangering I hope they survive tell us which nursery you use give us a link so we can look through it
When i move to Georgia can i stop by and see your garden? I have so mamy questions, like how do you track light exposure before planting, how many notes do you take on your palnt changes theoughout the year, etc.
A lot of my methods are just research. I have a south-facing exposure, so my yard gets 8 hours of sun even in the winter. In summer, it gets 12 hours of sun...it can be too much, I'm learning. Before I buy varieties, I research them on local cooperative extensions and on forums. You can read articles on your county's (or neighboring county's) cooperative extensions. But even then, you're always guessing a little. I don't intend to live here forever, so a lot of what I do is simply experimental.
Ichi Ki Kei Jiro, Nikita’s Gift and Rosseyanka grow in Zone 6. All persimmons grow in Zone 7 or warmer. If you’re in Zone 7, any Asian variety is fine.
@@TheMillennialGardener thank you. Maybe too late to order now, since I need 4 to 5 weeks for the tree to root before the 1st frost. Prob wait until a spring planting.
I highly recommend it. I got my neighbor a Giombo tree a year and a half ago and I gave him the other section of the persimmon and he was thrilled. Now he can't wait til his fruits.
Did you pick it off the tree very soft and eat or did you let it soften off the tree . I just ordered a Giombo and will probably not get fruit for a couple years . I also have two Saigo and one Giant Fuyu . My wife likes the firmness of Fuyu and they taste good when soft to me . I can’t wait to try the saigo and giombo . Some say you have to let them ripen off the tree but I think you just picked and ate .
Grew up eating both types and the astringent ones are far superior. You can always find them at a Korean market in the fall if you want to try them before trying to grow one. You def want to wait until the fruit feels like an over rippened tomato before taking a bite.
They are vastly better. I don't understand why the non-astringent types are so popular. I think the non-astringent types make find 2nd or 3rd trees, but a high quality astringent type should be your main crop. They're outrageous!
@@TheMillennialGardenerwell each person had their own tastes, for me I like the non-astringent type because they can be eaten crunchy at medium stage with medium sugar which’s I like more than fully ripe that developed too much sugar not mine flavor.
@TheMillennialGardener I'm not so sure that they are more popular, but I believe the astringent ones are more expensive (they come in nicely packaged flats) and less readily available. I believe the non astringent ones are available almost all throughout the year at the market. I also second the comment about freezing them and then letting them thaw before eating. We also dry them out and eat them as snacks. Not really a fan of eating them like this though. Also, not sure if you have one already, but if not you absolutely need to try the olympic Korean giant pear-different from the other Asian pears. Also, it tastes much better when refrigerated vs room temperature. Fall and winter is the best time to get them. They are a bit pricey, but they are massive, juicy, crispy, and so sweet!
How did you decide on Giombo? I got an Ichi about two years ago and have three fruits ripening!! Excited to try my first ever ripe persimmon. I'm interested in getting an astringent variety, but am having trouble choosing one :).
I wanted the largest, highest quality fruit. Giombo fruits are enormous - the size of large bell peppers, and the quality is incredible. Blows away my Ichi Ki Kei Jiro, which is very good on its own, but Giombo is on another level.
Can you propagate cuttings from persimmon? If so you should take many when you trim/defoliate, get some going in containers (30 gallon or larger) and some more in native soil😎
Asian persimmons shouldn’t be planted on their own roots. You should graft them onto native American persimmon rootstock. You have to have a bunch of rootstock available before you take budwood from an Asian persimmon.
If you Google search "Giombo persimmon" you will find many online sellers. This exact tree came from Just Fruits and Exotics, but the tree I got my neighbor was from PlantMeGreen.
Your Persimmon trees look flawless compared to mine do you treat them? Mine get ravaged by the psyllid in the early part of the growing season and really sets them back.
I hope one day I have so many of these persimmons that I'm forced to bake with them to use them up. This year I only have 7, but I can't wait til the day I have 50+.
Trees usually take a year or two to grow roots first. Once it feels well anchored, it’ll take off. Next year it’ll get a little taller. Year 3 it’ll pop!
Yes it’s like candy. I have a 30ft saijo loaded down with hundreds of these in my backyard. I give them away each year. I’ve tasted many varieties of Asian and wild native persimmons, astringent/non, and my saijo is still the best.
Hello, I planted asian persimmon trees early winter last year (3 month old) and im wondering should i cut of the top? its about 1m and 3,3 feet tall. I wanna cut it off to encourage side growth. wifie dont agre.
Get an Eley lead free hose for your garden and let Dale drink with abandon! Awesome company and lead free top notch hoses. I have your Orbit hose but I prefer Dramm for high gentle output. Check it out if you have never tried them. I don’t think you will water again with the one you have been using as it saves you a lot of time and is more gentle on the soil. I save the orbit for cleaning tasks and use quick connects from Eley. Expensive but the best. Thanks for your content. I love your stuff. I am a fig pig and persimmon enthusiast like you.
I got Ichi and Nikita this year. Thanks to your videos. I'm in zone 6a. Put a 2-inch mulch on top of the tree for the winter. I have no idea how long I have to wait for the persimmon tree to produce fruits, maybe two to 3 years minimum. I only have a question here. The location where I plant the persimmon has a rose tree next to it. I know persimmon will be fine for at least 2-3 years. Will the Rose be killed by persimmon when the persimmon grows bigger and bigger? I'm sure that persimmon will block the sunlight of the rose someday. I'd consider moving the rose next year. I can't plant anything besides acidic-loving plants next to persimmon because the PH Is around 2-3.😂
They will probably try and fruit within 1-2 years. My brother’s Nikita fruited next year but dropped the 2 fruits. Don’t let them carry more than 2-3 if they hold. I honestly don’t know how your trees and roses will get along. Obviously, the roses will struggle to flower in shade. But, roses can be dug up and relocated when dormant if it comes down to it…
@@TheMillennialGardener Thanks. I can relocate the Rose. The problem is that I can't reuse the spot anymore since the PH level is so low, and it is next to persimmon. Anyway, we may do it next year. We want to focus on the persimmon tree right now. We had one nearly dead persimmon tree not long ago. It's only 1ft high with a small leaves. I'm not sure if it can survive this winter. The nursery replaced it with a taller and better roots persimmon for us. I will trash the small persimmon tree if nothing changes after the following year. I'm not sure why the nursery provided a persimmon tree where the root size is only like my fist. My other persimmon, Nikita’s gift, arrived at the same time. That one is still Healthy as of today. I look forward to seeing some fruit from Nikita’s gift next year. Again, thanks for your time
I imagine so, or you could just grow a seed and graft a limb onto it. Asian persimmons are on a whole different level than American persimmons, though. I enjoy American persimmons, but the Asian types are 🤤
They are good, the flavor tends to be better than the non-astringent varieties, however, they dont keep as well, they are harder to grow, and you can only eat them when they are that soft. In other words: I wouldnt have it as my only persimmon tree, but I would have it as my 2nd or 3rd persimmon tree.
I assume you've had Hachiya persimmons before? They're all over the place in November hereabouts. If Giombo persimmons compare to Hachiyas then I may have to try growing them.
I have not had Hachiya. I've always heard Giombo was similar to Hachiya but upgraded, if that makes sense. Giombo is supposed to have the size of Hachiya but with the intensity of Saijo.
I am such a picky eater I can't spend 3 years of space and effort for something I might not like. I'm going to have to spend serious effort finding some locally so I can taste test. I'm glad you enjoyed yours! The joy in your eyes was heartwarming. PS hi Dale!
They frequently sell Fuyu persimmons at Costco …usually during the winter months. They are also known as Khaki (so it may not say persimmons on the outside of the package). They are definitely not as ripe as what you saw in the video. Usually a crunchy texture and moderately sweet but it gives you a starting point as to whether you’ll like it or not.
Before I was disabled, I grew a bunch of native (north central Mississippi) persimmon trees for food plot edges. I would "harvest" the seeds from DRIED OUT raccoon or opossum poop. Don't knock it until you try it!
I have a few native persimmons trees in the neighborhood. They are good, and I scoop them up when they’re dropping. They’re dropping now. But these astringent Asian types are on another level. They’re mindblowing!!
Our intense heat in Texas this year burned my Fuju fruit. Looks like a torch hit them. The skins are brown and all wrinkled on top. I watered weekly and it’s heavily mulched past the drip line with deep wood chips.
I'm not sure exactly what you mean. Persimmons are deciduous trees, so they lose their leaves every fall. If this is what you're seeing, that will happen every year.
@@TheMillennialGardener Hi Thank you for responding. I do realize that all the leaves will eventually fall, what concerned me was whether they are prematurely getting into the fall stage too early. This is the first year of having this plant so not sure what to expect. Also I have some near by Persimmon orchards where their leaves still look perked up and fresh with no sign of falling or drooping like mine.
I've even had metal mesh bags torn down, ripped open and the fruit (Fuyu persimmons) removed by critters. Now these were low-hanging fruit and I'm thinking either a fox or raccoon. But yeah, I'd be out there sitting in a rocking chair with a shotgun. Mesh bags are fairly helpful for birds and insects though.
The only way to keep all mammals out is to fully enclose things in fencing. It's not really possible with a tree this size, so all we can do is the best we can. Any deterrent helps.
I have a FuYu that is finally giving me a good harvest this year after 6-7 years, however, the vast majority of the fruit are "infected" by something, the core of the fruit are black, terrible looking. I hear pests, disease are rare in persimmon and no other back yard persimmon growers that I know of have had this problem. You have any insight or advice you can give me? I would appreciate it so much. Im in zone 9, Northern California.
Astringent persimmons are grown best in Zones 7-11. I would guess yes assuming it's cool enough during your "cool season" that the persimmon will fruit.
They're very different. Saijo is small, and the trees yield a lot. This fruit is enormous. It's the size of a large bell pepper. It depends if you want small fruit or large fruit. I wanted the large fruit. Saijo is also one of the larger Asian persimmon trees, and I didn't want it in my small yard. If I had acres, I'd be planting many different varieties.
You don't think it's possible to do what you do with your avocado? I can't wait to grow persimmon thanks for the video. I have seen someone else do a similar cold protection with their mango trees in ground as you do with your avocado.
If you enjoyed this video, please “Like” and share to help increase its reach! Thanks for watching 😊TIMESTAMPS for convenience:
0:00 Introduction To Persimmon Trees
1:16 About The Giombo Persimmon Tree
2:35 How To Harvest A Persimmon
5:04 Giombo Persimmon Taste Test
6:55 Giombo Persimmon Flavor Profile
10:18 Adventures With Dale
You should also try lychee and longan.
@@maggiechan33 they are not cold hardy. I live in Zone 8, and those are Zone 10 plants.
Hey man. I lived in korea and would buy the really gooey persimmon on discount when its almost too old. Just put them in the freezer and then let it dethaw 15 minutes before eating... Its incredible
That's the best! The most deliciously ripe fruits are ugly.
yes, and I do that with ripe mango also ... its like a tropical sherbet!
@@ooohlaa13sherbet yeah that means its fermented
OMG!!!! I thought you were going to shed a tear when you took that first bite 😂😂😂 …. Just made my mouth water.
You can also put persimmons (astringent or not) that is still a bit hard in the freezer for few hours, until it is totally hard. Once out and defrost they will be soft and sweet and easy to eat.
Persimmon is my fave fruit ❤
@@veganspace It is a God fruit.
The feeling of finally harvesting fruit from a tree you've put years of work into is so special. I finally got my first crop of fruit from my figs I started in 2021 and it is incredible how much better they taste than grocery store figs. Congratulations on the giombo!
Grocery store figs are so terrible. They're picked so many days underripe they taste like grass 😧 I feel bad for folks not growing figs because they think they won't like them based on what they've experienced at grocery stores. A perfectly ripe fig right off a tree is an unforgettable experience. It's like your first ice cream cone.
I agree with you that this is the connoisseur's persimmon... I'm in zone 7 and had troubles growing them. BTW I love your videos for many reasons, but especially for how intelligent you are.
Thanks for the informative video, this is also my favorite fruit. I have 4 varieties; Izu, Fuyu, Jiro and an astringent Hachiya. I also grow many different Figs (11 varieties), PawPaws, Feijoa, Blue/Black Red Raspberries, diff grapes varieties, pluots, apricots, nectarines, apples, plums, pears and I'm sure I'm leaving some out
Oh my, your expression while eating that fruit was PRICELESS!! You looked like a little kid exploding with excitement!! Can I b ur neighbor? Lol
It was a special piece of fruit. It's always an interesting experience having your first fruit right off a tree from a fruit you cannot find in grocery stores.
I very much agree - you are also speaking here for me.
I love persimmons and every year I wait for my favorite Asian grocery store to sell them. I finally planted a persimmon this year. Zone five, tho. Will see. I also planted Methley plum trees. Am hoping for a great backyard orchard.
Just wondering,,, what state are You in? (zone 5)
So your starting an orchard??
N E Ohio here. (Ohio Columbiana SWCD for my trees. Hint ;> )
I planted 5 Persimmons trees on the outside perimeter of my garden 2 years ago. I tossed them in with lots of mulch and composted manure in the soil & they are growing like weeds! I'm hoping that I'll get to see some flowers next year.?
My Figs grow like 6-7' every year, but they just don't have enough 'season' to get ripe.
My 4yo Pawpaws are also growing crazy. 7' tall now. 2 of them had flowers last year, but no fruit yet.?
FYI,,, I have 3 different varieties of Asian pears in my orchard and this year, the production was outstanding. Unbelievable sweet & juicy,,,, last nights freeze will end their exceptional season.
I also started 4 different variety of late season apples. They are really getting sweet right now. I'm kinda glad for some colder weather, 'cause those massive European wasps & Yellow Jackets were eating them by the dozens,,, right off the trees!
My black raspberries, on the E side of my garage were HUGE,,,, big as a thumb!
4 different grapes. I had a decent production this year. Gotta constantly spray,,, 3 different diseases to watch out for!
I HAD 5 different varieties of plum trees in my orchard, & every tree but one is now gone. BLACK KNOT CANKER ROT, whatever.
www.epicgardening.com/plum-tree-diseases/
FWIW,,,
I'm just giving you a heads-up warning,,,, loosing all of my plum trees after years of trying to save them, is a heart breaker.
Maybe, just stick to apples, pears, cherries,,, & English Walnuts, Heartnuts & chestnuts,, & in 10 years or so, you'll be able to sit back & enjoy them all, without as much of the headaches & problems that plums cause. ;>)
Keep us posted!?
@@jdoboy6835 I'm in NY, near Albany. I hope something does well. My garden has one persimmon, hazelnut (one tree), two methleys, one muscadine grape (along with a wild grape that keeps popping up nearby), Pear, (which keeps exchanging rust fungi with the juniper), tart cherry. Three of my haskeps died leaving one which is lovely to look at but pretty much useless without a partner. The critters killed my sweet cherry and my gala apple tree. Nibbled to death. I have figs but only the Longue D'aout gave me pears this year. My ground cherries grew wonderfully but never ripened and are still all green. Tart cherry, lilacs, are blossoming in the fall for some reason. I h aven't pulled up my Jerusalem artichokes yet.
Your videos are joyful! Every year my first tomato of the season is the best I’ve ever had. Gardens are a bit of heaven on earth.
That's how gardening is. There are so many "bests." It never gets old.
I have 12 persimmon trees coming in the mail. I can't wait.
😮
That Giombo persimmon looks delicious 😋
It’s probably the best fruit I have ever had. This year, the tree was unbelievable. The fruit quality is improving with age.
@TheMillennialGardener you have succeeded in fruiting banana plants in North Carolina, so maybe it should be successful in the UK!😁
"Liked" for that face you made and your absolute joy at tasting the fruit from the first time!
Thank you 🙂 I appreciate it!
Everything tastes better when you grow it. You can taste the work you put into it.
There is just no comparison to a storebought fruit. But, of course, you can’t buy astringent persimmons in commercial grocery stores.
I’m glad you got your reaction on camera!! I’m still laughing! Priceless! You rock!
This fruit is so unbelievably good. Most of us have only had food from grocery stores. If that's all you've ever tasted, it's mindblowing that something this good can just come right off a tree. This is better than 90% of the baked treats that are bad for health. If only people knew the most delicious candy can come right off a tree and it's actually fairly healthy...
Your eyes said it all, congratulations 😊 I recently harvested my first chocolate persimmon and fuyu persimmons. They were so delicious, I am so looking forward to next season.
That sounds good. If I ever get more land some day, I'd try the Chocolate/Coffee Cake pairing.
@@TheMillennialGardenerSir, which types is better to harvest and eat,
Fuyu persimmon or hachiya persimmon fruit.
And which is more tastier fuyu types or hachiya types.
Please tell me sir.
Is this the Saijo Persimmon? Sorry if I missed it
Mine are Fuyu and Chocolate
You aren't kidding when you say unripe ones will dry your mouth. I bit into (just breaking the skin, mind you, not an actual bite) an unripe wild American persimmon and my entire mouth was instantly devoid of moisture! It was the oddest sensation but all the moisture was sucked out of my mouth in about 1 second! My lips stuck to my gums. Very weird. I appreciate your thorough reactions and descriptions. So many say things like, "It's sweet," or "tastes like candy." What does that mean? Keep up the good work.
It is almost like inhaling rubbing alcohol. But your mouth feels like a wine cork wrapped in an oily rag 😂 I’ve had a few American persimmons drop that weren’t quite ripe and YEEESH! It’s hard to believe something that tastes that awful can ripen into one of the finest fruits on Earth.
Hello from Portugal, I have a persimmon tree similar to yours, perhaps another variety, it is a large tree that is 20 years old. I've never seen a fruit with seeds, but I don't know what happened, that this year some fruits have up to 6 seeds. I started harvesting fruits at the beginning of September and immediately sowed the first ones, which germinated after a month and are now small plants. This tree, when I let it grow, gives me hundreds of fruits.
Goodbye and thanks for the videos
My Hiaycha tree will likely have 200 fruits this year, all about one pound. I’m in zone 8 and also have two highly productive FUYu persimmon trees. I often pick the Hiachya when they are firm and let them ripen till soft. Dehydrate the persimmons and put them im vacuum bags in the freezer. They are a treat lasting months….
You’ve grown some incredible fruits!!
Thank you for sharing MG! 👍👍👏
I’ve got an astringent saijo, in the ground for three years. Due to two late freezes, no flowers yet. I’m hoping next year is the year! I planted a non astringent suruga this year. Can’t wait! Congratulations on your harvest!
I would recommend you protect it with shade cloth all winter: ruclips.net/video/z7BYtRlmpCE/видео.htmlsi=HkzRh4p2AqwHy85h
Keeping your trees under shade cloth will keep them dormant for weeks longer and it prevents late freeze damage.
I found 70% and 40% shade cloth. I believe you had used 40%… I wonder if 70% would provide extra insurance?
I grow Fuyu persimmon, non astringent..8a TX …amazing! My biggest lesson…pruning is essential as the wood must be soft…the limbs break easily! I use this fruit in several canning recipes, pickled they are fantastic.., pie filling that is just indescribable… , and of course eating fresh…no pest issue at all so very easy to grow organic. However… I made the mistake of letting my four trees grow and not pruning them…i have two trees left… if you dont keep them pruned in my experience the wood must be soft and they will split and break up and die. I plan to replant two trees to replace the two I lost. They are soooooo good and they can handle the extreme heat and droughts we face here in Texas. That alone is huge!!
Persimmons respond very well to pruning. They form their fruit on the new year's wood, so establishing lateral branching and cutting them back to encourage new spring growth yields more fruit (sort of like figs). If you like Fuyu, you have to plant an astringent type. Fuyu is good, but the astringent types are on a whole different level. This Giombo blows the non-astringents out of the water. I like my non-astringent Jiro better than Fuyu, but this Giombo makes me want to forget all about Jiro 😂 Something like a Giombo or Hachiya would blow your mind if you love persimmons.
If I ever get more land one day, I want to grow Coffee Cake and Chocolate and have them pollenize each other. It will make them seedy, but it's supposed to enhance the flavor and make them dark.
I am so happy for you! 😋Great Video! 🥰
Thank you!
Great rebound from the storm damage vid. Go Anthony!
We're trying our best. The weather's been really nice these last 3 weeks. I hope it stays that way.
I think maybe I had this variety but we moved and it was too large to move. It was at at a prior house for one year and we dragged it out of the ground with a truck and replanted it and every EVERY it produced delicious fruit with no care (planted in clay). I hated to leave it, but thanks to you I am going to buy another one! We must stop moving.
Howdy MG! I knew it was good when you went speechless.😄
I'm still taking in all your knowledge before choosing a persimmon tree for our edible landscape. The one our neighbor had was at least 20 feet tall and had the shape of the fruit on the tree you showed us.
What a great gardening buddy Dale is. He's just so cute...adorable!😃🐕💕
If you let a Giombo tree go unpruned, it will eventually reach close to 20 feet tall. If I had to guess, your neighbor's tree was probably a Hachiya persimmon. They are a similar shape and very common. If you find an astringent persimmon at a big box store, chances are it'll be a Hachiya. Giombo is much less common, but it's become easier to find online. If you're willing to prune annually, you can easily keep it around 10 feet.
Dale takes his job very seriously. He's always on the clock pawtrolling and pawtecting.
@@TheMillennialGardener 😄 What do you think about the Barbados Cherry tree?
Apricots, mango and cinnamon. Exactly how you would describe it.
It was phenomenal!
Very cool. There's nothing like enjoying the sweetness and flavor of something new you've grown yourself.
I'm surprised you're not growing muscadine grapes. Seems like your climate would be perfect for them. I'm finally harvesting muscadine grapes in my greenhouse in Seattle, after tending the vines for 2.5 years.
I don’t like the muscadine flavor. I’m growing some old American grapes, and I just added a new variety last month. The muscadines just aren’t my thing.
in North Central FL my yard is full of muscadine vines but I never saw one grape ... what is the secret? The previous owner of my home told me he planted 25 years ago,I tore a lot of it out the vines were covering everything in its path ... but no grapes???
@@ooohlaa13
Sounds like you only have a single gender of muscadine - either male or female. Only female vines and self-fertile vines set fruit, but the female vines need a male vine (or a self-fertile vine) within 50 feet for pollination. I'm growing six varieties. Four of them are self-fertile and two are female.
*Self-fertile:*
Ison
Cowart
Dixie Red
Ruby Crisp
*Female:*
Darlene
Supreme
hmmm strange because the guy I bought the house from specifically said I will love the grapes and in 21 years I never saw a 1 ... he was not a bs guy loved his garden so something else is up I think this is the only grape that will grow in North Central FL?@@firecloud77
FYI the astringent persimmon easily ripens to gooey goodness sitting on my counter several days to a week or longer till it's soft at the stem end and no astringency at all. I usually always do this because it eat skin and all the finger-licking goo. Or with a spoon. Yummy 😘👍
Looking for trees now in San Diego, CA
Thanks for your great detailed information ❣️
Wow! That Giombo Persimmon looks “yummy”. I can’t wait until my Fuyu Persimmon fruit gets completely ripe. Thanks for another motivating video.
You’re welcome!
I do believe you can safely pick before fully ripe. In store they're normally not because of shelf life. So pick the ones with deepest uniform color and they can ripen on your counter, or even on top of your fridge.
You can also put them in your freezer for 24 hrs and they will be ripe when thawed. Something about protecting from early frosts. And I've often found one yo several seeds about 1/2 size and of an shape a shelled almond.
And my face always looks like your first bite!!!😄
Beautiful dog 🐕.❤
Thank you very much!
Congratulations... I'm so happy you 😊
Thank you so much!
My better half loves persimmon. My personal favourite fruit is mangosteen. If you haven't tried it, you're really missing out!
Love your videos ❤❤❤
Mangosteen, star apple, logan, lychee, sugar apple, wax jambu, sweet kumquat, sweet satsuma, loquat, & some varieties of mangoes are tropical fruits of heaven.
I put a Rosseyanka & a Mikkusu in the ground last year in zone 6a. I've also got an Ichi Ki Kei in a pot. I can't wait until they start fruiting!
I don't have a persimmon tree but I do buy these at the farmer's market out here in central California and make cookies out of them in the beginning of December. I hand the cookies out as gifts.
Congratulations!
I thought you were going to cry for a second!😂
So happy for you.
Hopefully, it inspires folks to grow more things. There's something magical about this. You have to do it to understand.
@@TheMillennialGardener
I 💯 % agree! 👍👍👍
Congratulations on the Giombo, mine was just planted last fall, but I already have hychiya and saijo already bearing and my first fruit on a fuyu which I also planted last fall. I'm trying to find a gwang yang.
Thanks man, I needed the inspiration. Back to planting more trees. 👍🏻
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
I love Persimmon only this kind it's delicious Vs the little flat round ones. Yes that is when it's ready to eat SUPER soft and sweet. I get them at Cambdian/ Vietnam stores when in season. I'm Cambodian we love to eat them lol
The American persimmons are definitely good in their own way, but the Asian persimmons are magical. They actually make me look forward to Fall. I wait all year for them.
I have a mature Hachiya persimmon. The first few years that it fruited, the fruits were still astringent even when mushy soft. The ones that ripest latest in the season seemed to lose astringency but were really boring. The next year I tried Hoshigaki with them, and I like them a lot better that way. They aren't the most incredible, but certainly worth keeping and is a fruit that is available at a time of year when not a lot of other fruits are available.
I've got a self-fertile american persimmon that I planted last year that I can't wait to taste.
A little trick to accelerate maturity of astringent persimmon: Store the fruits once they turn orange but still hard in a gastight container with a few mililitres per fruit of strong alcool (rhum, vodka,...), and wait for 3 to 4 days at room temperature. The low concentration of ethanol in the closed atmosphere will be absorbed and will catalyse the enzymatic reaction of hydrolysis of tannin subtances into sugars.
"The low concentration of ethanol in the closed atmosphere will be absorbed and will catalyst the enzymatic reaction of hydrolysis of tannin substances into sugars."
WOW,,,, Really?
How can we prove that one?
Here's why,,,,,
My hobby is growing fruit & nut trees from seed.
My family & I love to eat chestnuts, & English walnuts, uncooked, 'raw'. Usually, it takes about 2-3 weeks for the chestnuts to sun/ air dry, age, & sweeten into a very caramel like nutty flavor. (Chinees varieties sweeten up the best).
IF, what you say is true, maybe your 'adding alcohol' process would work even better with the tannins & starches in these nuts?
Very Interesting!?
;>)
I don't know if it works with nuts, but the "ethanol process" occurs also naturally on persimon trees: The first persimmons that rippen are the ones with cracked or damaged skin; In direct contact of the flesh with mold and yeast from ambiant air, fermentation occurs... @@jdoboy6835
Wonderful video. I might have cried from joy if I were in your shoes! LOL!
Wow, that looked incredible! Congrats! I would like to try that variety someday. I don’t think I’ve seen it for sale over here in the UK before, but I will keep an eye out for it 👍
It’s incredible! But I’m sure there are plenty of incredible varieties out there. The ones remaining on the tree are the size of a bell pepper 🫑
Awesome! I have the giant fuyu on order from Willis Orchard, and I can't wait!
Wonderful Sir. What is the average weight of a fruit of this variety? Fuyu persimmon is also better but don't become jell like soft and for many days it keeps hard though nonastringent though dominating Indian market . What is ideal climate for this Asian persimmon please? Thanks and regards from India. God bless. Looks oval shaped and very attractive. 👌👍❤️🙏🙏
wow i love the shape!❤ mine are super round nothing like this
right on!
WHERE CAN I ORDER ANY PERSIMMON TREE??? U MADE MY MOUTH WATERING. YUMMMMM
If you Google search "Giombo persimmon" you'll find many online nurseries that sell it.
On sale locally were the 'astringent' persimmons this year 2023; if you have had caimates (Kaimate or chrysophyllum caimate) which are purple 'star fruits', the taste, texture and even 'astringent' quality is similar. Thanks for posting.
I am putting in an ichi ki kei jiro thanks to your helpful content. The sunniest planting location for it is along a fence line in my landscape. I see you planted yours along a fenceline as well. How far away from the fence would you recommend planting ichi ki kei jiro? Thanks so much!
Minimum 30 inches, but giving yourself 4 feet will be advantageous, if you can. Ichi Ki Kei Jiro is one of the smallest persimmons, so it's quite easy to maintain as a small tree. You will need to prune it annually to keep it well-balanced and small.
No you don't eat the skin. I am going to grow a few this coming spring. Thanks for sharing your experience. Your videos are the best, authentic and educational.
You can definitely eat the skin. It's delicious! The texture and taste is great. I would never scoop out the insides and not eat the skin. It's just too good. Thanks for watching!
The persimmon looks very sweet
It is. Very. Like honey.
I don't have persimmon tree yet. You're making me really want one, however I prefer the crunchy type. Any you suggest for N. Texas, Zone 8? Btw, your face was epic. That'd how I felt eating nectarines off my tree this year.😊
Most persimmons do great in north Texas. Check out Doans Nursery in Irving in the spring, they have a few different varieties.
Love your channel I even ordered another tree which I got yesterday and it's a mangering I hope they survive tell us which nursery you use give us a link so we can look through it
When i move to Georgia can i stop by and see your garden? I have so mamy questions, like how do you track light exposure before planting, how many notes do you take on your palnt changes theoughout the year, etc.
A lot of my methods are just research. I have a south-facing exposure, so my yard gets 8 hours of sun even in the winter. In summer, it gets 12 hours of sun...it can be too much, I'm learning. Before I buy varieties, I research them on local cooperative extensions and on forums. You can read articles on your county's (or neighboring county's) cooperative extensions. But even then, you're always guessing a little. I don't intend to live here forever, so a lot of what I do is simply experimental.
Success! Congrats!
Thank you!
Hi. What variety of persimmons tree can I grow in NJ and do you recommend a grower? Thanks and awesome video.
Ichi Ki Kei Jiro, Nikita’s Gift and Rosseyanka grow in Zone 6. All persimmons grow in Zone 7 or warmer. If you’re in Zone 7, any Asian variety is fine.
@@TheMillennialGardener thank you. Maybe too late to order now, since I need 4 to 5 weeks for the tree to root before the 1st frost. Prob wait until a spring planting.
I'm going to try this tree in my yard
I highly recommend it. I got my neighbor a Giombo tree a year and a half ago and I gave him the other section of the persimmon and he was thrilled. Now he can't wait til his fruits.
Did you pick it off the tree very soft and eat or did you let it soften off the tree . I just ordered a Giombo and will probably not get fruit for a couple years . I also have two Saigo and one Giant Fuyu . My wife likes the firmness of Fuyu and they taste good when soft to me . I can’t wait to try the saigo and giombo . Some say you have to let them ripen off the tree but I think you just picked and ate .
Grew up eating both types and the astringent ones are far superior. You can always find them at a Korean market in the fall if you want to try them before trying to grow one. You def want to wait until the fruit feels like an over rippened tomato before taking a bite.
They are vastly better. I don't understand why the non-astringent types are so popular. I think the non-astringent types make find 2nd or 3rd trees, but a high quality astringent type should be your main crop. They're outrageous!
@@TheMillennialGardenerwell each person had their own tastes, for me I like the non-astringent type because they can be eaten crunchy at medium stage with medium sugar which’s I like more than fully ripe that developed too much sugar not mine flavor.
It's a texture thing for me with astringent persimmons unfortunately.
@TheMillennialGardener I'm not so sure that they are more popular, but I believe the astringent ones are more expensive (they come in nicely packaged flats) and less readily available. I believe the non astringent ones are available almost all throughout the year at the market. I also second the comment about freezing them and then letting them thaw before eating. We also dry them out and eat them as snacks. Not really a fan of eating them like this though. Also, not sure if you have one already, but if not you absolutely need to try the olympic Korean giant pear-different from the other Asian pears. Also, it tastes much better when refrigerated vs room temperature. Fall and winter is the best time to get them. They are a bit pricey, but they are massive, juicy, crispy, and so sweet!
How did you decide on Giombo? I got an Ichi about two years ago and have three fruits ripening!! Excited to try my first ever ripe persimmon. I'm interested in getting an astringent variety, but am having trouble choosing one :).
I wanted the largest, highest quality fruit. Giombo fruits are enormous - the size of large bell peppers, and the quality is incredible. Blows away my Ichi Ki Kei Jiro, which is very good on its own, but Giombo is on another level.
Can you propagate cuttings from persimmon? If so you should take many when you trim/defoliate, get some going in containers (30 gallon or larger) and some more in native soil😎
Asian persimmons shouldn’t be planted on their own roots. You should graft them onto native American persimmon rootstock. You have to have a bunch of rootstock available before you take budwood from an Asian persimmon.
Cool! Good to know.@@TheMillennialGardener
Where you order you tree , also thanks again I ready have my satsumas and lemon tree and I have one fuyu but I need this one ❤ say hello Dale 🎉
If you Google search "Giombo persimmon" you will find many online sellers. This exact tree came from Just Fruits and Exotics, but the tree I got my neighbor was from PlantMeGreen.
@@TheMillennialGardener thank you 🙏
Your Persimmon trees look flawless compared to mine do you treat them? Mine get ravaged by the psyllid in the early part of the growing season and really sets them back.
Just imagine a persimmon pie with those! That would be amazing ! I will gladly stay up nights and guard your persimmons just let me know!!😀
I hope one day I have so many of these persimmons that I'm forced to bake with them to use them up. This year I only have 7, but I can't wait til the day I have 50+.
I planted an ICHI KI KEI JIRO at the beginning of spring (NJ) and just a month ago it started putting out new growth, I was worried for a while.
Trees usually take a year or two to grow roots first. Once it feels well anchored, it’ll take off. Next year it’ll get a little taller. Year 3 it’ll pop!
I'm from north east NJ , any info where you bought the Giombo persimmon?
I am from the Northeast too and I went with the Nikita’s Gift and the Ichi-Ki-Kei-Jiro.
Yes it’s like candy. I have a 30ft saijo loaded down with hundreds of these in my backyard. I give them away each year. I’ve tasted many varieties of Asian and wild native persimmons, astringent/non, and my saijo is still the best.
Hello, I planted asian persimmon trees early winter last year (3 month old) and im wondering should i cut of the top? its about 1m and 3,3 feet tall. I wanna cut it off to encourage side growth.
wifie dont agre.
Get an Eley lead free hose for your garden and let Dale drink with abandon! Awesome company and lead free top notch hoses. I have your Orbit hose but I prefer Dramm for high gentle output. Check it out if you have never tried them. I don’t think you will water again with the one you have been using as it saves you a lot of time and is more gentle on the soil. I save the orbit for cleaning tasks and use quick connects from Eley. Expensive but the best. Thanks for your content. I love your stuff. I am a fig pig and persimmon enthusiast like you.
I got Ichi and Nikita this year. Thanks to your videos. I'm in zone 6a. Put a 2-inch mulch on top of the tree for the winter. I have no idea how long I have to wait for the persimmon tree to produce fruits, maybe two to 3 years minimum. I only have a question here. The location where I plant the persimmon has a rose tree next to it. I know persimmon will be fine for at least 2-3 years. Will the Rose be killed by persimmon when the persimmon grows bigger and bigger? I'm sure that persimmon will block the sunlight of the rose someday. I'd consider moving the rose next year. I can't plant anything besides acidic-loving plants next to persimmon because the PH Is around 2-3.😂
They will probably try and fruit within 1-2 years. My brother’s Nikita fruited next year but dropped the 2 fruits. Don’t let them carry more than 2-3 if they hold.
I honestly don’t know how your trees and roses will get along. Obviously, the roses will struggle to flower in shade. But, roses can be dug up and relocated when dormant if it comes down to it…
@@TheMillennialGardener Thanks. I can relocate the Rose. The problem is that I can't reuse the spot anymore since the PH level is so low, and it is next to persimmon. Anyway, we may do it next year. We want to focus on the persimmon tree right now. We had one nearly dead persimmon tree not long ago. It's only 1ft high with a small leaves. I'm not sure if it can survive this winter. The nursery replaced it with a taller and better roots persimmon for us. I will trash the small persimmon tree if nothing changes after the following year. I'm not sure why the nursery provided a persimmon tree where the root size is only like my fist. My other persimmon, Nikita’s gift, arrived at the same time. That one is still Healthy as of today.
I look forward to seeing some fruit from Nikita’s gift next year. Again, thanks for your time
we call them lotus here, but unfortunately people dont really eat them. i like their cinnamony-apricoty flavour though!
Where can I get your first, easy to grow persimmon?
I’m in Wilmington, NC close college!
Thanks, mike
Delicious 😋 Las Vegas Chinatown 168 Market Vanilla Persimmon - just learning so many health benefits!
I found out I had a american permission tree in my yard I wanted to know if I could air layer it but from the trunk cause the limbs are weak🤔
I imagine so, or you could just grow a seed and graft a limb onto it. Asian persimmons are on a whole different level than American persimmons, though. I enjoy American persimmons, but the Asian types are 🤤
They are good, the flavor tends to be better than the non-astringent varieties, however, they dont keep as well, they are harder to grow, and you can only eat them when they are that soft. In other words: I wouldnt have it as my only persimmon tree, but I would have it as my 2nd or 3rd persimmon tree.
japan also have this fruit if i'm correct Sir
I assume you've had Hachiya persimmons before? They're all over the place in November hereabouts. If Giombo persimmons compare to Hachiyas then I may have to try growing them.
I have not had Hachiya. I've always heard Giombo was similar to Hachiya but upgraded, if that makes sense. Giombo is supposed to have the size of Hachiya but with the intensity of Saijo.
I am such a picky eater I can't spend 3 years of space and effort for something I might not like. I'm going to have to spend serious effort finding some locally so I can taste test. I'm glad you enjoyed yours! The joy in your eyes was heartwarming. PS hi Dale!
They frequently sell Fuyu persimmons at Costco …usually during the winter months. They are also known as Khaki (so it may not say persimmons on the outside of the package).
They are definitely not as ripe as what you saw in the video. Usually a crunchy texture and moderately sweet but it gives you a starting point as to whether you’ll like it or not.
Have you ever tried Coffeecake (Nishimura Wase) or Chocolate persimmon? I'm curious how they stack up to this variety.
I have not tried those varieties.
@@TheMillennialGardener unrelated question, but how far apart are the in ground fig trees on your fence line planted?
Ok, I'm going to need a few minutes to myself after watching you eating that fruit 🤣
Before I was disabled, I grew a bunch of native (north central Mississippi) persimmon trees for food plot edges. I would "harvest" the seeds from DRIED OUT raccoon or opossum poop. Don't knock it until you try it!
I have a few native persimmons trees in the neighborhood. They are good, and I scoop them up when they’re dropping. They’re dropping now. But these astringent Asian types are on another level. They’re mindblowing!!
Our intense heat in Texas this year burned my Fuju fruit. Looks like a torch hit them. The skins are brown and all wrinkled on top. I watered weekly and it’s heavily mulched past the drip line with deep wood chips.
I recommend shade cloth. It will literally save your garden: ruclips.net/video/cO-U1wYGZ8Q/видео.htmlsi=aJwEg85XLBL5xuGg
Same for mine. Top of the fruit looks fine but the bottoms were burnt and dry
@@atomicjoe that’s odd. The tops are what get hit the most by the sun. My bottoms are fine.
where do you buy your persimmon trees?
is normal that the leaves of persimmon tree kinda droopy, drying slowly in late October?
I'm not sure exactly what you mean. Persimmons are deciduous trees, so they lose their leaves every fall. If this is what you're seeing, that will happen every year.
@@TheMillennialGardener Hi Thank you for responding. I do realize that all the leaves will eventually fall, what concerned me was whether they are prematurely getting into the fall stage too early. This is the first year of having this plant so not sure what to expect. Also I have some near by Persimmon orchards where their leaves still look perked up and fresh with no sign of falling or drooping like mine.
I've even had metal mesh bags torn down, ripped open and the fruit (Fuyu persimmons) removed by critters. Now these were low-hanging fruit and I'm thinking either a fox or raccoon. But yeah, I'd be out there sitting in a rocking chair with a shotgun. Mesh bags are fairly helpful for birds and insects though.
The only way to keep all mammals out is to fully enclose things in fencing. It's not really possible with a tree this size, so all we can do is the best we can. Any deterrent helps.
I have a FuYu that is finally giving me a good harvest this year after 6-7 years, however, the vast majority of the fruit are "infected" by something, the core of the fruit are black, terrible looking. I hear pests, disease are rare in persimmon and no other back yard persimmon growers that I know of have had this problem. You have any insight or advice you can give me? I would appreciate it so much. Im in zone 9, Northern California.
Just a suggestion: Chocolate Persimmon Cake from the Guittard Chocolate Cookbook!
omg I imagine it is like pudding? yum the combo! I just ordered the cookbook from my library in Florida!
You certiantly looked like a religious experience. Hope to see more fruit videos this fall. Figs?
What’s a good source for purchasing this variety.
If you Google search "Giombo persimmon" you'll find many online nurseries that sell it.
Do you have an idea of a good place to start looking for these trees?
They’re easily found via google. It isn’t a rare variety. Just make sure it is grafted onto American persimmon rootstock.
Is this the Saijo Persimmon?
No. I provided the name of each cultivar throughout the video.
Where do you get the tree of persimmon?
Will this grow in Queensland?
Astringent persimmons are grown best in Zones 7-11. I would guess yes assuming it's cool enough during your "cool season" that the persimmon will fruit.
Cant find anyone who will ship this to California, as it seems to always be on D. Virginiania rootstock, which all parts are banned here.
Geez, now I'm torn between planting this variety or Saijo...
They're very different. Saijo is small, and the trees yield a lot. This fruit is enormous. It's the size of a large bell pepper. It depends if you want small fruit or large fruit. I wanted the large fruit. Saijo is also one of the larger Asian persimmon trees, and I didn't want it in my small yard. If I had acres, I'd be planting many different varieties.
I'm most interested in taste. Maybe I can squeeze in both. @@TheMillennialGardener
My Japanese persimmon tree didn't do will due to the Arctic blast. The top died. I'd like to ge another type of persimmon.
It is almost impossible to get these varities here in California as D. Virginiania root stock is banned in the state.
Please try growing mango trees!
That’s not possible in Zone 8 without a heated greenhouse. They die frequently in central Florida and require protection even in Zone 9b.
You don't think it's possible to do what you do with your avocado? I can't wait to grow persimmon thanks for the video. I have seen someone else do a similar cold protection with their mango trees in ground as you do with your avocado.