IMO it’s probably Niklas Astedt or Simon Mattson, they have insanely impressive results online. In terms of live players I think Jason Koon is one of the best out there.
Being smart doesn't mean you can do anything. Wiki says he started playing poker in 2012 and had his first WSOP cash in 2016. That's 4 years of ONE job. @@Road2Serfdom
Does Addamo cash at a higher clip than other top pros? It seems like he loves blowing up his bet sizes early in tournaments, taking a higher-variance approach to try to gain a chip advantage, which allows him to apply pressure later on. Basically finding a flaw in the ICM models that undervalue the advantages of a large stack. Whereas most everyone else is just doing lower variance type play. If the goal is to maximize chances of winning, Addamo's philosophy is probably better. If looking to maximize placing, then playing tighter makes sense.
I don't have a default playing style. The table dictates how I play. Tight table - I run for it. Loose table - I lean back. If it's a mix then I see where I have the tight and loose players and adapt
I think betting bigger on the turn would have been the best modification for Michael, lumping his straight + flush + overcard draw with his nutted hands
I play all of them, which confuses the shit out of opponents. I heard quite some pros complaining that they never can put me on a hand, which infuriated them. 😊 Addamo's reasoning is: The only combo spade flush draw would be a 4 on the flop. Those don't make any two pair, because the only one would be 45ss which does not make a straight. In addition, you beat all 4s pairs. He could only be beat by 56, 67 and A6 which he blocks. Having no spade, it's a call, because the 6s is on the board.
The style of poker I play is more fluid than anything. Recently, I've been testing out strategy where I 3bet a ton. If the last 20 hands shows that my image is that I am loose, I will tighten up to account for that. That being said I have a job and don't have time. Need to move to vegas... So, reality is that play style depends on a lot of factors.
Hey, just commenting on the turn sizing. Idk if you’re allowed to use 1.5x or 2x pot Overbets on the turn when Addamos range is still uncapped, meaning he still has full clip overpairs and sets. I think soyza should mainly be using blocks and B75 as his turn sizings
@@sincityinfinity6255 if you imagine the range of hands that soyza can actually Overbet in this spot the range is actually quite small. He pretty much only has sets and some suited 2 pairs, and using a simplified 2 size strategy on the turn makes sense because you can put a lot of different hands into a specific bet sizing (for example a hand like K6 is strong enough to bet big but not Overbet)
Yeah I tend to agree. 2x pot is crazy. 2/3 to pot I’d say is reasonable for high equity draws, and medium to strong hands. 2x pot is like ‘hey I have a set + or nothing’ so your opponent can basically fold anything that isn’t the nuts or close to it for +EV
@@elio-7911 addamos call was good, even better considering soyzas bluffing a bad combo on the river which likely means he’s overbluffing in these spots.
This is why in these spots you either GO FOR IT or GIVE UP. This is why Addamo in these spots will bet 5x or 6x of the pot virtually ALL IN making it so hard for the opponent to call.
What hands that don’t have any showdown are going to be a different suit than spades on the river? Almost non, maybe some A5 or A3 gutshots that lead but not sure if that is enough bluffs so may need to add in hands which contain spades. Agree that Qspades isn’t the best but Addamo is in the cutoff so he’s opening pretty wide.
I play Tight but somewhere between passive and aggressive. I like to evaluate how I've been playing and how my opponents (for those paying attention) must perceive me to that point. Then I change it up a bit to throw them off, but not get too out of hand crazy (bluffing at every pot, etc)
I'm going to assume you're more on the beginner end of your poker journey based on your comment, so I'll give you some low stakes cash advice as a player for 12 years, and winning player for the last 7 of them: - Sizing tells are the easiest to pick up on, and the easiest picked up on you. Like JL just said here, play two sizings and do not deviate from them. Obviously multi-way hands, limpers, etc. can vary things around, however don't stray from this as you'll be much tougher to figure out, and keep things under control. Mixing overbet sizings or sure shot exploitative sizings is fine, just don't make it a habit. One of the largest tells on a bad player is absolute bet sizings. If all the sudden they're jamming 75% of their already-dwindled stack in to 3.5x a small pot because a late position open triggered them, it's far more likely they don't want any calls, because anything strong wants to grab value. This does not apply to OMC's. - 3 bet FAR more often preflop. Your win rate will see the results of this fast. Punish cold callers, weak regs/recs for their spews, etc. - Do not cold call without a sliver of the top of your range. Simplify your strategy facing a 4 bet, or 4b'ing yourself with only the top of your range. - Bad players bluff their air and barrel-bluff far more often from preflop and into the 2-3 streets after, rather than ever call your bets down and bluff with air on the river. If they're calling you down, evaluate whether you're ahead, but it's likely they are not calling you down without a single piece to shove you on the end. They have value, or they perceive they do. - Absolutely deviate from the full-house theory: when a flop is paired and the action is multiway. - Constantly punish weak passive limpers that don't know what they're doing. They will shovel their money right into your stack with ease. This includes mixing in heavy amounts of LP bluffs to punish limpers far more often than you'd think - Again, 3 bet FAR more often. Have a good one!
@@firstnamelastname6148 Well that's going to depend on a lot of things, and is going to change considerably with those things: such as: position, stack size, Villain tendencies, table dynamics, etc. As a beginner, fall into a structure semi-balanced around tight aggressive strategy (TAG), and examine pre flop range charts. Each chart will give you a rough idea on actions across each spot. Facing an open, and facing a raise is far more vital than the easy decisions on opening yourself. Those are straight forward. By comparing your position, villain's position, and that players ability/tendencies, you will have everything you need. Does that player fold far too often to aggression? Yes=3bet them far more often than normal. That means, you are increasing the *total* number of hands, as well as increasing the *% frequency of that specific hand* that you 3bet. Now, you are going to face both weak passive recs (the worst player) and loose calling stations (bad, but maybe a notch less horrible) When facing a calling station, you must deviate oppositely to the overfolder. Do not bluff into them. However, the wider that opponent type is, the less scary flops they are ultimately ever going to connect with. Further, the more hands they can have. Your ace high may not be so good on a low-dry board as it would against a weak tight player. If they are too tight/nitty, only playing the best pairs and broadways, they are even easier to play against, as that 643 board will certainly *almost never* hit that player if they opened or raised/3b preflop. Why do we know this? Now, had they called a light bet from the blinds, or limped on in, A6 suited, and 66 or 44 may very well be in their holdings. That is why suited connectors, low pockets, unsuited broadways, and A2-7, should all play a role more or less in your overall tight strategy, why? Because with more balance like this, you can connect with all flops, and be stronger to play, and harder to figure out. A nit can only drill wet, broadway boards most of the time, and a loose passive player, while may certainly hit a high board, they far more often miss most flops, or even more often, think they hit the flop with their K4 unsuited, but are actually dominated by your kicker. You will win plenty of money from these types. And the stations will still call you down with marginal hands. In general, UTG leads at full ring are going to already give you quite a bit of info, as you must condense their range, calling yourself with a now-condensed range, and 3b with an even more condensed range. Each action before you, that is not a fold, following an open, is going to change that range considerably. Most situations discussed, strategies taught, or on poker solvers, are going to be most effective *heads up,* so be mindful of that. Multi-way, a lot changes. On the button, you are going to have the widest range to both call and 3bet. That opponent is going to have info on you, depending on which you choose. Most, even the worst players, are aware the button and big blind have a wide range, and will call with a wider range themself. That is why balance is important. If you are only 3b from the button with your suited broadways and high starting pairs, you are going to realize folds much more than value, because it is easy to see you are folding 90% of your hands. Thus, almost everything on the flop and preflop should never be 100% the same action. While QQ-AA should 100% of the time be driving out the *limpers,* so that you do not have to worry about rags cracking your hand, that does not mean they are always 100% 3bets to an early open. However, they may be a 3bet 80% of the time, so if you were dealt aces 10 times in a row on the button, facing identical action before you, then 8 of those times should be a 3bet, and 2 of those times should not. (just a random metaphoric example, the number is not 80%) By 3betting more often, you are putting more pressure on (including action pressure on them once the flop is seen), while also getting more info on the strength and tendencies of your opponent, and collecting the blinds. However, doing anything the same way with the same exact hands everytime, means your opponent will easily just fold to you. By mixing in suited connectors, occasional bluffs, and strength hands, you can hit more flops, stay harder to play against, and show more aggression. Waiting for only the best hands like an OMC, for example, is extremely easy to play against: you just fold! I encourage you to checkout AlvinTeachesPoker (esp the content with Wolfgang training) as well as all content by Bart Hanson/CrushLivePoker. While the 1-3 stakes often do not call for this "balanced" approach completely or occasionally, barely at all, you have concepts to build on against better regs, crushers, and the material you'll need from the math perspective. The money is in live poker, because of the exploitable side of things. That is why picking up on dynamics, tendencies, etc. at your table, and making judgements based on every hand shown, or a player overfolding/over calling, are all very important. Follow my advice above, and what I've given you here, and you will have a great starting point for your path ahead. Poker is a constant study. Pick up some .pdf options online of some of the top reccomended low stakes/live CASH game books, and you will flourish from there. Exploit play will only come with more table hours. That is why, by adding study and the approach following correct math, and odds/probabilities, you will have a huge chunk ahead of your competition and on your own decisions- giving you confidence. You need basic structure to crush before relying on tells, dynamics, and exploitable tendencies, otherwise you would be out to dry against most decent regs, and even worse off against any solid player. (To start, see what hands are 3bet from the small blind facing a UTG open, a MP open, and a button open. Now, compare that with what hands you are 3b yourself from the button, facing identical opens. And the portions of total hands you are doing so, you will see how much your question varies. Multi-way, you want to be condensing even more. Because low stakes live, esp in the south, is often 3-4 players in a hand, that may mean adjusting your sizings, tightening your range, and trimming down those frequencies by 10-30%. Be mindful of what you show, and rarely ever do so. You will be shown both bluffs and great hands by regular players often. Use that info, however a solid player is choosing to show those hands on purpose. If they want to develop a string image, they will show only strong hands, thus they can squeeze out more folds by bluffing. The same goes the opposite way, showing air rags. Don't get punished when they show up with the goods. Most of this stuff is over the heads of half the players at a low stakes table, which is why it is valuable. (p.s. as a beginner, absolutely never limp and rarely ever cold call. Bet, Call a bet, 3bet, or fold. While higher stakes, and rare good tables at 2-5+, have limp 3bet/4b strategies, with good hands in disguise, that is not a practice you are ever going to profit on as a beginner. One day, you may employ more advanced strategies as you move up. Limpers at low stakes can almost certainly be pegged as bad players. Do not do so.
Tight/aggressive when I'm playing well. If you play a pot where I'm in the lead, expect to put chips in if you want to win it. Also, expect to see flopped big hands, draws that came in, and draws that didn't when you get me to showdown. Now, when I am playing poorly I revert to tight/passive aka the worst way to play poker. I just lose my nerve and drop the high risk/high reward aggressive plays and I get station-ey at the same time.
My winning big pot always with some random hand like 37s 42s 85s these hand get max when we hit Tripp’s or very unlikely straight against big pocket pairs
I like leading deepstacked on that flop actually quite a lot. But it reall depends on what is your plan on future streets and what kind of opponent you are playing. Esspecially against guys like Addamo a flop-lead becomes very valuable. But you must be ready to 4bet vs a raise on the flop. Or overbet the turn a lot of low turn cards, when getting called only...
the TAG's that don't usually go for thin value, along with the extreme LAG's would be the best types to look up on this river (have no idea if soyza is either of those, or has a rep as either) in addamo's seat. there is also a huge advantage to when having a ton of chips (don't see everybody's chip count but addamo tends to usually have a chip lead when he's still in a tourney, and has more than the players shown in this hand, extremely more than 1 of them) to show your opponents you can't be pushed around, like making this turn + river call would be. and no small part of addamo's tourney dominance is likely involved in that, people afraid to play back at him or call off light for huge bets.
I wish I could think like that during the hand after the hand is over it makes total sense never would have made this call but five minutes later would have realized what happened and regretted folding
I have a question. Why was it "detrimental" for Addamo to not have a spade? I would think that it's a good thing in terms of bluff catching because it makes it more likely his opponent could be bluffing a missed spade draw
I see the logic in what you're saying, but it's actually the opposite. If Addamo had a spade, it actually makes it LESS likely Soyza had a missed spade draw. Because in that case, there are less spades possible for Soyza to have since Addamo would be holding one.
@@JDhomieG This is what he said, that not having a spade is a good thing in terms of bluff catching (more likely that Soyza have spades), I think he just misheard the commentary about *who* it was detrimental to.
These descriptions aptly described old school players...now i believe some more descriptions should be added by poker pandits to describe newer generation of players...lakhs of players now cant be categorised in just 4 heads...
When there is a pot raise on the River but both the Turn and the River are higher cards than the highest card from the Flop, with a dry runout and missed flush draws from the Flop, is this not an alarm bell for a bluff, trying to get you off the hand? Not a GTO expert, not even a poker expert but long time participant but this is how I would’ve read that board. The difference though is if this was me with this read, it’s because the person did actually flop the nuts (3/5).
ive been playing on the more tight passive side by increasing my limping range preflop and chack calling strong hand post flop. GHowever, ill mix with tight aggressive given my hand and connection to the flop
There are leads in theory even deepstacked in theory, especially in low connected boards where there are supposed to be a lot of check backs from the initial aggressor!
Just ran solver on this hand, as a cash game. The stack is still high, so ICM should not be significant here? The result shows that the whole game tree by the two players are all GTO approved. Addamo should call all the way 100%! Soyza should lead the flop with 30%, almost always bet the turn big, and bet the river 1/4 of the times. But that is the result for cash game. Not sure how ICM affect it, especially on the turn and river... Anyone ran ICM on this hand?
10:40 If I get here I will bet depending on my POV of opponent. If they are sticky I check fold because the Q5ss is one of my missed flush draws (I dont normally get here with combo str8/flush draws like Q5ss because I would probably bet 1.5x with intent to jam any river that does not pair the board or just go all-in on the turn but whateveh). I try to balance myself by bluffing missed str8s and check/folding missed flushes becuz i notice my missed flushes are usually 10+ high cards that have equity vs missed str8 draws if it checks back but whateveh). If I do bet this river I actually use a 25% - 33% bet size because those seem to get more folds from marginal pairs then my jams after I play with opponents long enough. This means I have to mix in check jams and small value beta but it seems to work. Sticky players tended to get jammed on and the rest of the field gets to decide what to do vs small bet sizes. Most tend to fold in my experience but I am not high stakes so grain of salt and all that.
This could literally be anyone, MTT poker is partial skill and ton of luck. We ever talk about Grinder anymore? Guy won everything for about 3-4 years. DN once upon a time too. Pick a name and this is MTT poker. Its silly tbh
Maybe Soyza was trying make Addamo think he has 5 8 for a straight. Most players wouldn’t raise pre with that hand but more likely to call a LP raise from BB or SB with that hand.
I'm loose agro. Since watching your videos obsessively and buying your book, which I didn't read yet, I know what every player has on every hand in small stakes. It's nuts.
I flex between TAG and LAG a lot, trying to stay more towards TAG but find myself being a bit more loose than I like sometimes. I never go full... maniac
This was not a hard call at all and you are WRONG about him getting more on the river. That would not have stopped the call. You don’t read the betting situation correctly. It was obvious from the first 2 bets that Souza was looking for a flush draw and at best paired. And if that was the case a big bet makes it more obvious it’s a bluff.
One of the reasons why addamos hand is probably a GTO call in theory is because not only are his blockers very good (he blocks 2 pairs) and the ace is a nice unblocker (his opponent shouldn’t bluff with A high as it’s way too high up in his range to do so. But also addamo realizes that he’s going to have quite a wide opening range from cutoff which means he’s going to be floating on the flop and the turn with all sorts of A high King high hands as well as worse pairs, making A4 high up enough in his range to just stick in the call almost always
Do you think Soyza would reraise pre with 6,7 suited? I think that’s a good reraise in this situation. If not what two pair is Addamo blocking? Soyza I think leading on the flop at 50% pot was a mistake, I think he should have either checked or led with a larger size as Soyza hand made it less likely Addamo had a flush draw. Instead of leading 6k into 12k, 8k would have been better.
@@sincityinfinity6255 addamo is blocking 46 and 47 suited as well as pocket 4s which in this case is rather relevant. Using a bigger donk lead size on the flop can be an ok strategy, but you generally don’t see solvers using a big lead sizing bb vs IP on the flop. In fact, 642 2 tone isn’t actually one of the boards that requires much leading, as the big blind doesn’t actually have an EV adv in this spot as Soyza doesn’t defend offsuit hands like 64 62 and 42 thus he is lacking a lot of two pair hands in his range, which differentiates this board than a flop like 765, where BB has all of the offsuit two pairs and straight combos
if you just play this hand in flow as a check raise you win the pot eventually. I think the biggest mistake was leading the flop when you dont have AA KK QQ on a board theyd never fold
I play all four styles I play online so depending on what the table itself is doing I change up my play because I play against a lot of the same players everyday twice a day I'm averaging about $20 an hour so I think that style is throwing people of they never can really figure out what I'm going to do from session to session.
@@sincityinfinity6255 I'm playing an America's gardens I do pretty good on there I mean we can water American players but during the week it's mostly Europeans and people from Russia and Australia stuff like that but weekends I usually don't play on there cuz the American players are just playing out right jackasses and they just play every any two cards or everything cards and that's good because you can make a lot of money off of them but they're going to get lucky you know what I mean
I’ll check out that site. I only play on WSOP because I live in Las Vegas so I cannot play on pokerstars. I’m just looking for variety. How long have you been on Americas Garden, is depositing and withdrawing funds simple? Cryptocurrency or American dollars?
They do American money crypto also. Been on there 2 months started with 50.00 just to check it out have been able to run it up to 800.00 at this point playing the micro stakes. 25/ 50 cent blinds pots average around 7.00. min to sit at table 10.00 to max 50.00. I try and play two sessions every day morning and night .use Boski on first deposit it. Bumps it up gl see you on the vital felt.
A4 is a better call than AA, with these suits especially, soyza never has TT plus given preflop and sets, 2 pair and straights, I.e all value bets for this sizing beats you, at least A4 these suits, unblocks all FDs and blocks tonnes of 2 pairs and 444, also A4 so much better call than K4 as soyza isn't going to lead, bluff bluff Ax
I take back what I said in another video. You were right about position. You should sell a shirt that says has pocket pair and it says “take a second, think about it” Or don’t listen to me, Your a smart man
You only talking about the blockers sense you need to talk more about the instinct part of the game on that specific hand postscript the hero call it’s the home run of poker in my book
Now I start to be understanding why good players going for big fin value bets, cuz ones in a while they can go for those kind of big bluffs, and it's more difficult to hero call you, if you not always nutted for value bets, but I guess it's only worth in super hight stakes, not in monkey's field 😂😂😂😂
Who do YOU think is the best poker player that is part of this new generation? 🤯
Preston McEwen
Adamo
IMO it’s probably Niklas Astedt or Simon Mattson, they have insanely impressive results online. In terms of live players I think Jason Koon is one of the best out there.
Espen Jorstad ,Tom Dwan ,Kevin Martin
Me!
I play GTM, yes i invented it. Game Theory Minimal
GTM is the guy that sits down and jams every hand until they bust 😂
You cant just jam every hand playing GTM. You have to fold the top half of your range to get rid of some of your overall equity
I prefer "GTR" , termed by Martin Khabrel (Game Theory Robot 🤖)
Or “GTMO”
GTO, game theory optional
I’m a big GTO guy. Gifting Tough Opponents is what I thrive in and I will continue my GTO strategy.
Michael is one of the most smartest people I’ve ever met. He could literally get a job anywhere he wanted to. Truly brilliant mind
How do you know him? What makes you say he could get a job anywhere in the world outside of poker? I’m a huge fan by the way just curious
Because he's one of the most smartest
Being smart doesn't mean you can do anything. Wiki says he started playing poker in 2012 and had his first WSOP cash in 2016. That's 4 years of ONE job. @@Road2Serfdom
@@albatrossbeats5617 extremely good application of information
Does Addamo cash at a higher clip than other top pros? It seems like he loves blowing up his bet sizes early in tournaments, taking a higher-variance approach to try to gain a chip advantage, which allows him to apply pressure later on. Basically finding a flaw in the ICM models that undervalue the advantages of a large stack. Whereas most everyone else is just doing lower variance type play. If the goal is to maximize chances of winning, Addamo's philosophy is probably better. If looking to maximize placing, then playing tighter makes sense.
I don't have a default playing style. The table dictates how I play. Tight table - I run for it. Loose table - I lean back. If it's a mix then I see where I have the tight and loose players and adapt
I play loose passive early in tournaments. Then I switch to tight aggressive once I chip up
Lol. The massage at end was intence.
I think betting bigger on the turn would have been the best modification for Michael, lumping his straight + flush + overcard draw with his nutted hands
I play all of them, which confuses the shit out of opponents. I heard quite some pros complaining that they never can put me on a hand, which infuriated them. 😊 Addamo's reasoning is:
The only combo spade flush draw would be a 4 on the flop. Those don't make any two pair, because the only one would be 45ss which does not make a straight. In addition, you beat all 4s pairs. He could only be beat by 56, 67 and A6 which he blocks. Having no spade, it's a call, because the 6s is on the board.
I'm slightly loose / aggressive, looseness depends heavily on other players.
Finally the bluff-countering reasoning makes sense thanks for the commentary
The style of poker I play is more fluid than anything.
Recently, I've been testing out strategy where I 3bet a ton. If the last 20 hands shows that my image is that I am loose, I will tighten up to account for that. That being said I have a job and don't have time. Need to move to vegas... So, reality is that play style depends on a lot of factors.
I think one factor which was ignored is that Addamo has an ace which is an amazing card to call because Soyza never turns A high into a bluff
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Hey, just commenting on the turn sizing. Idk if you’re allowed to use 1.5x or 2x pot Overbets on the turn when Addamos range is still uncapped, meaning he still has full clip overpairs and sets. I think soyza should mainly be using blocks and B75 as his turn sizings
Maybe the overbet was due to the board being dynamic for the blind, what do you think?
@@sincityinfinity6255 if you imagine the range of hands that soyza can actually Overbet in this spot the range is actually quite small. He pretty much only has sets and some suited 2 pairs, and using a simplified 2 size strategy on the turn makes sense because you can put a lot of different hands into a specific bet sizing (for example a hand like K6 is strong enough to bet big but not Overbet)
Yeah I tend to agree. 2x pot is crazy. 2/3 to pot I’d say is reasonable for high equity draws, and medium to strong hands.
2x pot is like ‘hey I have a set + or nothing’ so your opponent can basically fold anything that isn’t the nuts or close to it for +EV
Ok so soyza got unlucky missing the wold (19 outs) and Addamo made sigh/stubborn call, that’s all about it
@@elio-7911 addamos call was good, even better considering soyzas bluffing a bad combo on the river which likely means he’s overbluffing in these spots.
better question: what hands does adamo get to the river with in this line, and fold?
No matter how much I see it, I can't get over how Triton events have masseuses for players 😅
That lady was also enjoying the game haha
This is why in these spots you either GO FOR IT or GIVE UP. This is why Addamo in these spots will bet 5x or 6x of the pot virtually ALL IN making it so hard for the opponent to call.
What hands that don’t have any showdown are going to be a different suit than spades on the river? Almost non, maybe some A5 or A3 gutshots that lead but not sure if that is enough bluffs so may need to add in hands which contain spades. Agree that Qspades isn’t the best but Addamo is in the cutoff so he’s opening pretty wide.
I play Tight but somewhere between passive and aggressive. I like to evaluate how I've been playing and how my opponents (for those paying attention) must perceive me to that point. Then I change it up a bit to throw them off, but not get too out of hand crazy (bluffing at every pot, etc)
I'm going to assume you're more on the beginner end of your poker journey based on your comment, so I'll give you some low stakes cash advice as a player for 12 years, and winning player for the last 7 of them:
- Sizing tells are the easiest to pick up on, and the easiest picked up on you. Like JL just said here, play two sizings and do not deviate from them. Obviously multi-way hands, limpers, etc. can vary things around, however don't stray from this as you'll be much tougher to figure out, and keep things under control. Mixing overbet sizings or sure shot exploitative sizings is fine, just don't make it a habit. One of the largest tells on a bad player is absolute bet sizings. If all the sudden they're jamming 75% of their already-dwindled stack in to 3.5x a small pot because a late position open triggered them, it's far more likely they don't want any calls, because anything strong wants to grab value. This does not apply to OMC's.
- 3 bet FAR more often preflop. Your win rate will see the results of this fast. Punish cold callers, weak regs/recs for their spews, etc.
- Do not cold call without a sliver of the top of your range. Simplify your strategy facing a 4 bet, or 4b'ing yourself with only the top of your range.
- Bad players bluff their air and barrel-bluff far more often from preflop and into the 2-3 streets after, rather than ever call your bets down and bluff with air on the river. If they're calling you down, evaluate whether you're ahead, but it's likely they are not calling you down without a single piece to shove you on the end. They have value, or they perceive they do.
- Absolutely deviate from the full-house theory: when a flop is paired and the action is multiway.
- Constantly punish weak passive limpers that don't know what they're doing. They will shovel their money right into your stack with ease. This includes mixing in heavy amounts of LP bluffs to punish limpers far more often than you'd think
- Again, 3 bet FAR more often.
Have a good one!
what starting hands to 3 bet? pair hands or what? im new forgive me for this question@@Optable
@@firstnamelastname6148 Well that's going to depend on a lot of things, and is going to change considerably with those things: such as: position, stack size, Villain tendencies, table dynamics, etc.
As a beginner, fall into a structure semi-balanced around tight aggressive strategy (TAG), and examine pre flop range charts. Each chart will give you a rough idea on actions across each spot. Facing an open, and facing a raise is far more vital than the easy decisions on opening yourself. Those are straight forward. By comparing your position, villain's position, and that players ability/tendencies, you will have everything you need.
Does that player fold far too often to aggression? Yes=3bet them far more often than normal. That means, you are increasing the *total* number of hands, as well as increasing the *% frequency of that specific hand* that you 3bet.
Now, you are going to face both weak passive recs (the worst player) and loose calling stations (bad, but maybe a notch less horrible) When facing a calling station, you must deviate oppositely to the overfolder. Do not bluff into them. However, the wider that opponent type is, the less scary flops they are ultimately ever going to connect with. Further, the more hands they can have. Your ace high may not be so good on a low-dry board as it would against a weak tight player. If they are too tight/nitty, only playing the best pairs and broadways, they are even easier to play against, as that 643 board will certainly *almost never* hit that player if they opened or raised/3b preflop. Why do we know this? Now, had they called a light bet from the blinds, or limped on in, A6 suited, and 66 or 44 may very well be in their holdings. That is why suited connectors, low pockets, unsuited broadways, and A2-7, should all play a role more or less in your overall tight strategy, why? Because with more balance like this, you can connect with all flops, and be stronger to play, and harder to figure out. A nit can only drill wet, broadway boards most of the time, and a loose passive player, while may certainly hit a high board, they far more often miss most flops, or even more often, think they hit the flop with their K4 unsuited, but are actually dominated by your kicker. You will win plenty of money from these types. And the stations will still call you down with marginal hands.
In general, UTG leads at full ring are going to already give you quite a bit of info, as you must condense their range, calling yourself with a now-condensed range, and 3b with an even more condensed range. Each action before you, that is not a fold, following an open, is going to change that range considerably.
Most situations discussed, strategies taught, or on poker solvers, are going to be most effective *heads up,* so be mindful of that. Multi-way, a lot changes. On the button, you are going to have the widest range to both call and 3bet. That opponent is going to have info on you, depending on which you choose. Most, even the worst players, are aware the button and big blind have a wide range, and will call with a wider range themself. That is why balance is important. If you are only 3b from the button with your suited broadways and high starting pairs, you are going to realize folds much more than value, because it is easy to see you are folding 90% of your hands.
Thus, almost everything on the flop and preflop should never be 100% the same action. While QQ-AA should 100% of the time be driving out the *limpers,* so that you do not have to worry about rags cracking your hand, that does not mean they are always 100% 3bets to an early open.
However, they may be a 3bet 80% of the time, so if you were dealt aces 10 times in a row on the button, facing identical action before you, then 8 of those times should be a 3bet, and 2 of those times should not. (just a random metaphoric example, the number is not 80%)
By 3betting more often, you are putting more pressure on (including action pressure on them once the flop is seen), while also getting more info on the strength and tendencies of your opponent, and collecting the blinds. However, doing anything the same way with the same exact hands everytime, means your opponent will easily just fold to you. By mixing in suited connectors, occasional bluffs, and strength hands, you can hit more flops, stay harder to play against, and show more aggression. Waiting for only the best hands like an OMC, for example, is extremely easy to play against: you just fold!
I encourage you to checkout AlvinTeachesPoker (esp the content with Wolfgang training) as well as all content by Bart Hanson/CrushLivePoker.
While the 1-3 stakes often do not call for this "balanced" approach completely or occasionally, barely at all, you have concepts to build on against better regs, crushers, and the material you'll need from the math perspective. The money is in live poker, because of the exploitable side of things. That is why picking up on dynamics, tendencies, etc. at your table, and making judgements based on every hand shown, or a player overfolding/over calling, are all very important.
Follow my advice above, and what I've given you here, and you will have a great starting point for your path ahead. Poker is a constant study. Pick up some .pdf options online of some of the top reccomended low stakes/live CASH game books, and you will flourish from there.
Exploit play will only come with more table hours. That is why, by adding study and the approach following correct math, and odds/probabilities, you will have a huge chunk ahead of your competition and on your own decisions- giving you confidence.
You need basic structure to crush before relying on tells, dynamics, and exploitable tendencies, otherwise you would be out to dry against most decent regs, and even worse off against any solid player.
(To start, see what hands are 3bet from the small blind facing a UTG open, a MP open, and a button open. Now, compare that with what hands you are 3b yourself from the button, facing identical opens. And the portions of total hands you are doing so, you will see how much your question varies. Multi-way, you want to be condensing even more. Because low stakes live, esp in the south, is often 3-4 players in a hand, that may mean adjusting your sizings, tightening your range, and trimming down those frequencies by 10-30%. Be mindful of what you show, and rarely ever do so. You will be shown both bluffs and great hands by regular players often. Use that info, however a solid player is choosing to show those hands on purpose. If they want to develop a string image, they will show only strong hands, thus they can squeeze out more folds by bluffing. The same goes the opposite way, showing air rags. Don't get punished when they show up with the goods. Most of this stuff is over the heads of half the players at a low stakes table, which is why it is valuable.
(p.s. as a beginner, absolutely never limp and rarely ever cold call. Bet, Call a bet, 3bet, or fold. While higher stakes, and rare good tables at 2-5+, have limp 3bet/4b strategies, with good hands in disguise, that is not a practice you are ever going to profit on as a beginner. One day, you may employ more advanced strategies as you move up. Limpers at low stakes can almost certainly be pegged as bad players. Do not do so.
Tight/aggressive when I'm playing well. If you play a pot where I'm in the lead, expect to put chips in if you want to win it. Also, expect to see flopped big hands, draws that came in, and draws that didn't when you get me to showdown.
Now, when I am playing poorly I revert to tight/passive aka the worst way to play poker. I just lose my nerve and drop the high risk/high reward aggressive plays and I get station-ey at the same time.
My winning big pot always with some random hand like 37s 42s 85s these hand get max when we hit Tripp’s or very unlikely straight against big pocket pairs
I like leading deepstacked on that flop actually quite a lot. But it reall depends on what is your plan on future streets and what kind of opponent you are playing. Esspecially against guys like Addamo a flop-lead becomes very valuable. But you must be ready to 4bet vs a raise on the flop. Or overbet the turn a lot of low turn cards, when getting called only...
I tend to play more, tight & passive, working on being more aggressive.
Also, wondering if, Soyza playing from the BB factor into Addamo’s hero call?
the BB range should be filled with all sorts of draws compared to other positions on boards like this, so yes, likely wider calling against it.
the TAG's that don't usually go for thin value, along with the extreme LAG's would be the best types to look up on this river (have no idea if soyza is either of those, or has a rep as either) in addamo's seat. there is also a huge advantage to when having a ton of chips (don't see everybody's chip count but addamo tends to usually have a chip lead when he's still in a tourney, and has more than the players shown in this hand, extremely more than 1 of them) to show your opponents you can't be pushed around, like making this turn + river call would be. and no small part of addamo's tourney dominance is likely involved in that, people afraid to play back at him or call off light for huge bets.
As a PLO player is this "leads are bluff heavy" concept a NLHE thing? Because in my experience it tends to be quite value heavy in PLO
he pretty much made it up
I wish I could think like that during the hand after the hand is over it makes total sense never would have made this call but five minutes later would have realized what happened and regretted folding
I'm tight aggressive borderline loose aggressive and if I'm honest my play leans towards loose aggressive.
I have a question. Why was it "detrimental" for Addamo to not have a spade? I would think that it's a good thing in terms of bluff catching because it makes it more likely his opponent could be bluffing a missed spade draw
I see the logic in what you're saying, but it's actually the opposite.
If Addamo had a spade, it actually makes it LESS likely Soyza had a missed spade draw. Because in that case, there are less spades possible for Soyza to have since Addamo would be holding one.
especially not having the ace of spades
"The lack of a spade in Addamo's hand I think is really to Soyza's detriment here" is what was said, so "detrimental" to Soyza, not Addamo.
@@JDhomieG This is what he said, that not having a spade is a good thing in terms of bluff catching (more likely that Soyza have spades), I think he just misheard the commentary about *who* it was detrimental to.
@@markuslautkoski3464 yes, my mistake, I misunderstood the commentary. I appreciate you for clearing that up for me 👍
I play the aggressive dog versus weakness , scared dog versus aggression style.
I play tight aggressive or loose aggressive. I do a lot of drilling on GTO+ which dramatically improved my performance
I’m loose aggressive much to my detriment lol. What style do you think would be best to alter too ?
The style you play matters against the type of player you play since everyone plays different style of play
These descriptions aptly described old school players...now i believe some more descriptions should be added by poker pandits to describe newer generation of players...lakhs of players now cant be categorised in just 4 heads...
You made my day , Adamo is such a crusher , love to see him killing it !!
Me too, he is fun to watch!
When there is a pot raise on the River but both the Turn and the River are higher cards than the highest card from the Flop, with a dry runout and missed flush draws from the Flop, is this not an alarm bell for a bluff, trying to get you off the hand?
Not a GTO expert, not even a poker expert but long time participant but this is how I would’ve read that board.
The difference though is if this was me with this read, it’s because the person did actually flop the nuts (3/5).
ive been playing on the more tight passive side by increasing my limping range preflop and chack calling strong hand post flop. GHowever, ill mix with tight aggressive given my hand and connection to the flop
16:13 addamo matches his profile pic almost perfectly with his facial expressions.
There are leads in theory even deepstacked in theory, especially in low connected boards where there are supposed to be a lot of check backs from the initial aggressor!
I just play tight passive until i get a feel of the table, then I play loose aggressive until they adjust
Just ran solver on this hand, as a cash game. The stack is still high, so ICM should not be significant here?
The result shows that the whole game tree by the two players are all GTO approved.
Addamo should call all the way 100%!
Soyza should lead the flop with 30%, almost always bet the turn big, and bet the river 1/4 of the times.
But that is the result for cash game. Not sure how ICM affect it, especially on the turn and river... Anyone ran ICM on this hand?
Just add that in 9-max, CO's opening range does not have A4o, so the above result is for non-spade A4s...
Good hands and good draws can use large bets, but god draws seem like they are going to be much more common?
I'm confused - I thought this board would be really good for his range as he's meant to be calling quite wide on the BB ? So why is the lead bad?
10:40 If I get here I will bet depending on my POV of opponent. If they are sticky I check fold because the Q5ss is one of my missed flush draws (I dont normally get here with combo str8/flush draws like Q5ss because I would probably bet 1.5x with intent to jam any river that does not pair the board or just go all-in on the turn but whateveh).
I try to balance myself by bluffing missed str8s and check/folding missed flushes becuz i notice my missed flushes are usually 10+ high cards that have equity vs missed str8 draws if it checks back but whateveh).
If I do bet this river I actually use a 25% - 33% bet size because those seem to get more folds from marginal pairs then my jams after I play with opponents long enough.
This means I have to mix in check jams and small value beta but it seems to work. Sticky players tended to get jammed on and the rest of the field gets to decide what to do vs small bet sizes.
Most tend to fold in my experience but I am not high stakes so grain of salt and all that.
Amazing video, shows why this guy is a world clas player
Tight aggressive but still 3b 4b bluffs tons vs reg LPvLP also usually go loose out of line on ICM
Jon, can you do a video to talk about positions
I'm more on the aggressive side but fluctuate from TAG to slighly LAG to be exploitative of opponent pool.
I play tight and agressive unless i'm playing limit hold'em which case I play loose and passive as I just play limit to have fun.
Addamo thought it out.. knew the dude was trying to buy it
I think I’m in between passive and aggressive if that makes sense. Depends on the other players.
This could literally be anyone, MTT poker is partial skill and ton of luck. We ever talk about Grinder anymore? Guy won everything for about 3-4 years. DN once upon a time too. Pick a name and this is MTT poker. Its silly tbh
I think the turn size tipped Addamo off. That was a weird size for that board.
Maybe Soyza was trying make Addamo think he has 5 8 for a straight. Most players wouldn’t raise pre with that hand but more likely to call a LP raise from BB or SB with that hand.
Why didnt addamo play the wsop?
I'm loose agro. Since watching your videos obsessively and buying your book, which I didn't read yet, I know what every player has on every hand in small stakes. It's nuts.
I play tag ranges but Im always card dead so everyone thinks Im a nit.
76 kind of ok kicker? Its the third lowest?
I flex between TAG and LAG a lot, trying to stay more towards TAG but find myself being a bit more loose than I like sometimes. I never go full... maniac
Am I allowed to call myself tight and aggressive in all the wrong spots 😅?
This was not a hard call at all and you are WRONG about him getting more on the river. That would not have stopped the call. You don’t read the betting situation correctly. It was obvious from the first 2 bets that Souza was looking for a flush draw and at best paired. And if that was the case a big bet makes it more obvious it’s a bluff.
U may be right...if he paired the nine 9n the river he prolly checks now that he has alot of showdown value.
One of the reasons why addamos hand is probably a GTO call in theory is because not only are his blockers very good (he blocks 2 pairs) and the ace is a nice unblocker (his opponent shouldn’t bluff with A high as it’s way too high up in his range to do so. But also addamo realizes that he’s going to have quite a wide opening range from cutoff which means he’s going to be floating on the flop and the turn with all sorts of A high King high hands as well as worse pairs, making A4 high up enough in his range to just stick in the call almost always
Do you think Soyza would reraise pre with 6,7 suited? I think that’s a good reraise in this situation. If not what two pair is Addamo blocking? Soyza I think leading on the flop at 50% pot was a mistake, I think he should have either checked or led with a larger size as Soyza hand made it less likely Addamo had a flush draw. Instead of leading 6k into 12k, 8k would have been better.
@@sincityinfinity6255 addamo is blocking 46 and 47 suited as well as pocket 4s which in this case is rather relevant. Using a bigger donk lead size on the flop can be an ok strategy, but you generally don’t see solvers using a big lead sizing bb vs IP on the flop. In fact, 642 2 tone isn’t actually one of the boards that requires much leading, as the big blind doesn’t actually have an EV adv in this spot as Soyza doesn’t defend offsuit hands like 64 62 and 42 thus he is lacking a lot of two pair hands in his range, which differentiates this board than a flop like 765, where BB has all of the offsuit two pairs and straight combos
if you just play this hand in flow as a check raise you win the pot eventually. I think the biggest mistake was leading the flop when you dont have AA KK QQ on a board theyd never fold
That massage therapist is putting work, kinda jelly rn. Been so long since found good masseuse
This is sick! Soyzas sizings gave to Adamo the pot imo. Crazy awareness from MA. Soyzas line would pass through 99% of players
Sometimes I'm loose aggressive and sometimes I'm tight and aggressive
I try to have a loose aggressive image
I play all four styles I play online so depending on what the table itself is doing I change up my play because I play against a lot of the same players everyday twice a day I'm averaging about $20 an hour so I think that style is throwing people of they never can really figure out what I'm going to do from session to session.
What site are you playing on?
@@sincityinfinity6255 I'm playing an America's gardens I do pretty good on there I mean we can water American players but during the week it's mostly Europeans and people from Russia and Australia stuff like that but weekends I usually don't play on there cuz the American players are just playing out right jackasses and they just play every any two cards or everything cards and that's good because you can make a lot of money off of them but they're going to get lucky you know what I mean
I’ll check out that site. I only play on WSOP because I live in Las Vegas so I cannot play on pokerstars. I’m just looking for variety. How long have you been on Americas Garden, is depositing and withdrawing funds simple? Cryptocurrency or American dollars?
They do American money crypto also. Been on there 2 months started with 50.00 just to check it out have been able to run it up to 800.00 at this point playing the micro stakes. 25/ 50 cent blinds pots average around 7.00. min to sit at table 10.00 to max 50.00. I try and play two sessions every day morning and night .use Boski on first deposit it. Bumps it up gl see you on the vital felt.
Oops America's Card Room
A4 is a better call than AA, with these suits especially, soyza never has TT plus given preflop and sets, 2 pair and straights, I.e all value bets for this sizing beats you, at least A4 these suits, unblocks all FDs and blocks tonnes of 2 pairs and 444, also A4 so much better call than K4 as soyza isn't going to lead, bluff bluff Ax
I take back what I said in another video. You were right about position.
You should sell a shirt that says has pocket pair and it says “take a second, think about it”
Or don’t listen to me,
Your a smart man
* you’re
I’m the tight and passive player just like the AE86, like as if my face ISNT rich enough to win and still poor
The style of poker that's going to put me in a position to win
You only talking about the blockers sense you need to talk more about the instinct part of the game on that specific hand postscript the hero call it’s the home run of poker in my book
That makes so much sense
If I tell you how I play, you’ll beat me 😂 pretty sure my chances aren’t good but telling you my strategy I have no chance 😅
more of a standard call than not. not saying easy but also not that outlandish. villains line made no sense specially not as lead
Tight/ passive? I let the aggros bet into me. And then I call their bluffs.
That lady messaged 💆♂️ that call out of him!
Now I start to be understanding why good players going for big fin value bets, cuz ones in a while they can go for those kind of big bluffs, and it's more difficult to hero call you, if you not always nutted for value bets, but I guess it's only worth in super hight stakes, not in monkey's field 😂😂😂😂
RIver betting is sooo bad.Should go for shoving or just x/f. Q5ss is I think bad bluff to do so and using 75%~100% is realllly bad.
I am a Loose Preflop Hyper Aggro Fish
Now go find a video of him calling the same overbet on river with a crap hand and lose.
I'm tight, loose, aggressive.
Michael probably would make same call with A5
First look at Addamo he looks exactly like a white phil Ivey for a second.
It's either Kevin Hart or that Air Ball guy 😆
In the end addamo didn't cash. But soyza did. Addamo didn't won any big tournament recently, right? Overhyped player
Damn... I would of folded....I suck.
I am TAG in cash games, TAG before I am out of the money LAG when I am in the money
Im a primarily TAG with Laggy episodes
Yep,Soy boy missed his draw.Well done Addo.
I play tight and I am rather terrible at the game.
Loose Aggressive and sticky. Red line gang for days.
Tight /aggressive fish
please stop talking about gto when you obviously have no idea of the GTO of the spot
Just cause someone is in a hear streak doesnt make them unbeatable m, it makes them. Huge target
Tight and aggressive
Just so jealous of this massage the entire video
🤣
I thought you meant hes a cheater with the emphasis used in the title haha
Turn sizing made no dang ol’ sense man.
LAG!