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  • Watch as Curtin's Dominic Howman presents a lecture on how musical instruments produce sound.
    Out of curiosity and the need to make improvements, scientific studies have sought to discover systematic ways of making desired changes to sound production. However, some types of musical instruments are much more difficult to understand than others. For example, the way violins work has been known for some time, but some of the basics of the acoustic guitar continue to remain as elusive as the fine subtleties of a Stradivarius.
    This lecture was presented on 23 March 2011.
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  • @rudeguitardotcom
    @rudeguitardotcom 10 лет назад +158

    Even though Blackbird sounds more like road-kill, don't be put off by the initial demonstration. If you can get past the introduction, there is quite a lot of accurate, well-presented information here. I wager most of these negative comments were made after hearing only the first 2 minutes of this 1 hour presentation, so those interested in learning something should keep watching.

    • @rudeguitardotcom
      @rudeguitardotcom 10 лет назад +8

      I couldn't agree more. However, I would be concerned about the building skills of a highly skilled player. Each vocation requires a lifetime of study and practice, so it follows that a master builder cannot and need not be a master guitarist. After all, I thought I knew a little about how guitars worked until I listened to the rest of this presentation, so in the reverse situation, I would have made a real fool of myself. Even so, he'd have done himself a favor to have someone else play the intro!

    • @thehendersons7782
      @thehendersons7782 9 лет назад

      Christopher Rude

    • @murrmac
      @murrmac 9 лет назад

      Christopher Rude Does the name Wayne Henderson mean anything to you ?

    • @rudeguitardotcom
      @rudeguitardotcom 9 лет назад +1

      Yes, I take your point. He excels in both disciplines. Perhaps I am over-generalizing with regard to the playing ability of luthiers. Even so, maybe we would agree that Henderson represents the exception rather than the rule.

    • @cdreid99999
      @cdreid99999 6 лет назад +5

      the average luthier probably starts off learning to play then discover they love building guitars a lot more and put their minds to that. Id bet most luthiers arent very good players. And very few great players could build a decent guitar

  • @md-vr8gv
    @md-vr8gv 8 лет назад +234

    Blackbird falling down a flight of stairs

    • @ajeje1996
      @ajeje1996 7 лет назад +3

      Made me snarf yo

    • @bahusofriends5467
      @bahusofriends5467 6 лет назад +11

      blackbird with a broken back got thrown out of a 5th floor window in an atempt to make the thing fly.....

    • @puderrick8634
      @puderrick8634 5 лет назад +12

      Hé tried at least

    • @bobaldo2339
      @bobaldo2339 5 лет назад +14

      The guitar sounds horrible. Maybe the guy is tone deaf? Also the strings are rattling on the frets.

    • @jakedemarsh
      @jakedemarsh 4 года назад +3

      I'm crying laughing with my family now bahaha

  • @0live0wire0
    @0live0wire0 10 лет назад +159

    My god, he could at least tune it.

    • @getenlightened
      @getenlightened 4 года назад +7

      My same initial thought, unfortunately.

    • @skaybaltimore
      @skaybaltimore 4 года назад +15

      It was painful to hear. Maybe this should have been entitled: "Making guitars with a tone deaf guitar builder".

    • @StonedAF101
      @StonedAF101 2 года назад +2

      I don't think it's the guitar that was out of tune...

    • @flynztone
      @flynztone 2 года назад +3

      My sediments exactly and I do believe this guy may have a mathematical mind for building a guitar however if he can’t tune it his presentation is mute

    • @weareallbeingwatched4602
      @weareallbeingwatched4602 2 года назад +2

      Simply awful

  • @kavitapabelkar9631
    @kavitapabelkar9631 3 года назад +7

    I am a Physics teacher and found this video very useful !!! Many thanks !

  • @phonicwheel933
    @phonicwheel933 6 лет назад +18

    Wonderful lecture- full of information and presented in a concise and easily understood style. You cleared up many points for me about guitar construction and performance, especially the critical importance of the bridge. Thanks for posting.

  • @HipperShake
    @HipperShake 10 лет назад +42

    As others have pointed-out, the guitar playing at the beginning is excruciating - is the guitar even in tune? However, apart from that, it is an excellent and very informative video. Dominic is clearly a real enthusiast and really seems to know his stuff. He also puts it across well in a clear no-nonsense way. There's a lot of hype out there about guitar 'tone', but this video helps debunk or explain a lot of the myths. Thanks for posting - keep up the good work :-)

    • @HarryNicNicholas
      @HarryNicNicholas 5 лет назад +2

      i think he was deliberately playing without any care for accuracy, his later little bits sounded like he knows what he's doing, it was just because the talk was about sound, rather than playing. it wasn't clear that he was making fun, but i think that was the intention.

  • @iban1228
    @iban1228 9 лет назад +4

    the lecture is so amazing and not too complex for the average person be disinterested in. he really knows his craft! thanks for uploading this vid!

  • @apoogdk
    @apoogdk 3 года назад +8

    Being an engineering student, I had a design project and my topic was guitars. This video helped me a lot in an engineering sense. Thank you so much!

  • @musicstoner
    @musicstoner 9 лет назад +6

    Glad I stuck with the video - despite the ropey start there is some very interesting information in here.

  • @atomic432
    @atomic432 4 года назад +2

    As one who spent a lifetime in physics and recently developed a love for guitars I really appreciated this presentation He did a great job bridging the gap between the art world and technology of guitar construction. I am not an expert in guitar construction but have a deep interest and Dominic Howman explained guitar construction using well established physical principals.

  • @JohnCKovach
    @JohnCKovach 8 лет назад +3

    Thank You, for a quick response ! The lesson at Sherry-Brener included the hanging of the various types of exotic woods on a thread and hitting it with a physicians 'reflex' hammer and either comparing it with a tuning fork during the in-process construction and later with an electrical or digital instrument, etc.

  • @nicthedoor
    @nicthedoor 9 лет назад +3

    The life of a Luthier is certainly fascinating but I don't think I have the patience. I would much rather spend my time playing. Thank you to the talented people who make these wonderful instruments.

  • @D0nCab
    @D0nCab 8 лет назад +3

    This was a really enjoyable, informative video. I think i'm almost ready to tackle my first acoustic guitar build (almost...), so this has been really helpful. Thank you for taking the time to share your expertise with the world.

  • @marvinbanjo
    @marvinbanjo 9 лет назад +2

    This guy was really informative and got a lot of flak for his playing and tuning . These instruments probably came directly from the atmosphere of his home; through all kinds of weather to the classroom. He explained that tuning would be off , but few of the critics here seemed to listen. As for his playing; he is a physics teacher/hobby builder. If Tommy Emanuel was playing -- the instrument would have been better displayed ; however this was not so much a performance but a physics class . Most critics here fail to realize this either . I did get a chuckle when he played the intro to Smoke on the Water on that old Aoud ( hope the spelling was right). Showing a 12th century Arabic rock group coming up with this would be a good sketch for SNL .

  • @sitearm
    @sitearm 9 лет назад +2

    That was excellent! I saw this after several guitar factory tour vids and now much better get the points they were making! Especially the Godin acoustic tour.

  • @brainrat1617
    @brainrat1617 7 лет назад +3

    It has always fascinated me when things are taken down to sheer fundamental building blocks. I loved the wood bashings. :D Seen a lot of guitars but never saw an inside of one.

  • @mikecurtin9831
    @mikecurtin9831 7 лет назад +2

    This is the second time I've watched this, and keep learning more each time. Thanks again.

    • @curtinuniversity
      @curtinuniversity  6 лет назад +1

      You're welcome Mike! We're glad to help :) - Brooklyn

  • @rickkernell2486
    @rickkernell2486 3 года назад +1

    An excellent presentation! I am just learning about the construction of guitars and this has been a wealth of information for me. Thank you Dominic!

  • @CC-xt1bw
    @CC-xt1bw 3 года назад

    Despite the lack luster playing at the beginning of the video, the video is an excellent discussion of the fundamental physics behind the making of steel string guitars and how the physics is addressed in the selection of materials and construction techniques used to build a guitar. Very informative.

  • @FerociousSniper
    @FerociousSniper 7 лет назад +1

    Aaaaaaaaah. I recently bought a 3/4 size classical. I instantly noted how loud of a treble sound it produced. Glad he was able to explain that.

  • @NMranchhand
    @NMranchhand 10 лет назад +4

    Terrific lecture! It was well organized and quite comprehensive. It was a great idea to get a luthier who is really on his game to present this to science-minded folks. It brought out interesting points. Thanks.

  • @logantucker8897
    @logantucker8897 7 лет назад +3

    Thank you for sharing your knowledge!! Very informative...

  • @TheSunnyJim
    @TheSunnyJim 7 лет назад +2

    really nice explanations. Thanks!

  • @JustinHallPlus
    @JustinHallPlus 10 лет назад +143

    Please edit the blackbird butchery out of this video... it's embarrassing.

    • @JustinHallPlus
      @JustinHallPlus 9 лет назад +2

      ***** Oh well.

    • @spencerdoesstuff1590
      @spencerdoesstuff1590 9 лет назад +8

      it killed me aswell hahaha

    • @michaellam3684
      @michaellam3684 9 лет назад +11

      Xalan yeah no doubt... that guitar sounds terrible

    • @dijonstreak
      @dijonstreak 6 лет назад +3

      man - NO KIDDING !! didn't he edit this at all ??!! pretty embarrassing...

    • @dijonstreak
      @dijonstreak 6 лет назад +4

      should just played each open string from lowest to highest and saved the embarrassment !!

  • @NJ_Galactic
    @NJ_Galactic 10 лет назад +5

    thank you for the talk it was so informative I really have been wanting to find more media like this about types of woods used in guitars awesome video, people remember he is not a professional guitar player he is just teaching about the properties of the woods

    • @tustudyis4life51
      @tustudyis4life51 3 года назад

      Yes every critiquing playing i feel they missed, how valuable this class is to aspiring luthier's he scientifically laid out an artform that many see a mystic, i can't express in words the value i have gained from this vid not even finished it and i know i will rewatch again & again. and use this info to teach my musician friends the science & woodwork that create, tone and resonance in acoustic stringed instruments. Info is even valuable for wood percussion.

    • @tustudyis4life51
      @tustudyis4life51 3 года назад

      Negative comments are like people (making fun of and discrediting) einstein for the way he holds his pencil and writes his 4's . How cares he just have us laws to better understand our universe. This is the final piece i needed to control what the guitar sounds like anyone can make one look like a great guitar their value is audible and i feel i can now start to control that. There is no amount of money that is too much to get this info and we get it FREE. BLESS EVERYONE WHO THIS GIVES A RICHER UNDERSTANDING OF THE ACOUSTICS OF WOOD. im off to practice and collect wood i will be back when i have invented all my dream instruments.

  • @styopazharkov7807
    @styopazharkov7807 10 месяцев назад +1

    i don't even play guitar but this was one of the most interesting presentations ive ever seen

  • @MusicGodsNFT
    @MusicGodsNFT 9 лет назад +1

    I enjoyed this presentation very much. Thank you.

  • @michaelsutherland214
    @michaelsutherland214 7 лет назад +2

    So many questions answered! Great lecture! thanks you

    • @curtinuniversity
      @curtinuniversity  7 лет назад +1

      You're welcome Michael, we're glad we can help - Brooklyn

  • @saiprasadrm97
    @saiprasadrm97 6 лет назад +1

    thank you. this presentation is very detailed and informative.

  • @chriskindler7625
    @chriskindler7625 9 лет назад

    Man, I really, really, ABSOLUTELY enjoyed watching and learning. I wish I could have a beer with ya and talk about this stuff for hours!

  • @waltersguitars3336
    @waltersguitars3336 6 лет назад +1

    absolutely amazing video. you explain things very well.

  • @DaveLeeDoesIt
    @DaveLeeDoesIt 9 лет назад +11

    I don't think the guitar is bad. I think he's more of a hobbyist player, and more interested in building guitars. If he hired someone to demonstrate for him or tuned it (although it wasn't as out of tune as you think, he was just hitting the wrong strings a bunch of times) I think it would have sounded really good.

    • @ulriksj
      @ulriksj 9 лет назад +7

      You can clearly hear it's awfully out of tune as well.

    • @cdreid99999
      @cdreid99999 6 лет назад

      He's a professional luthier... he knows how to tune and set up a guitar.. but he didnt bother.......

    • @tustudyis4life51
      @tustudyis4life51 3 года назад

      For Everyone its a hobby just some people get big heads when they hear 1 person play worse than them. Great contribution can tell how much you guys learned from all this info.

  • @majorgunn
    @majorgunn 7 лет назад +3

    Great talk, scallop remark also very interesting learning the origins, as I have two on the go, one with a very deep cross brace profile, and yes scallops,.... Both are similar volumes, but different materials, body and necks so looking forward to the finish and how well they are. Your talks about wood initially is extremely valuable (to a lay person and surprisingly misunderstood by many) as were your description of tonal modes and the top's behavior. Shame on anyone giving you a negative wave. Thank you for sharing your experience.

  • @cabletie69
    @cabletie69 2 года назад

    Thank you for your excellent presentation. Exactly the principles I wish to apply.

  • @CaveDave-dc6gv
    @CaveDave-dc6gv 7 лет назад +7

    Was this an example of a bad sounding guitar at the beginning? I’m still watching the video so I’m not sure if he is going to touch on that but I thought it sounded bad

  • @rajithanawagamuwa6002
    @rajithanawagamuwa6002 8 месяцев назад

    So interesting explanations with practically demonstrations....Love the way you teach them up...Thank you ...

  • @MrsAntilope
    @MrsAntilope 10 лет назад +1

    THis lesson is fantastic! Thank you so much!

  • @Paulinhox88
    @Paulinhox88 10 лет назад +1

    Fantastic lecture. Maximum information, zero bullshit. Great stuff

  • @jwandhistools
    @jwandhistools 6 лет назад +2

    That was fascinating and very informative.

  • @jacobsmith8031
    @jacobsmith8031 10 лет назад +2

    Top stuff Dom. Sam told me to come check this out, and I'm damn glad I did.

  • @mikecurtin9831
    @mikecurtin9831 7 лет назад

    Thanks very much to Mr. Howman. This explains a lot and is very interesting and useful to me.

  • @HarryNicNicholas
    @HarryNicNicholas 5 лет назад +1

    i have ten guitars at the moment and i've owned about thirty in the last few years, my pride and joy being a '66 gibson J45, what you said about vibration going through the back to the player, and sound holes that are cut into the sides makes sense, i also have a martin OOOX1, spruce top but HPL back and sides, basically laminate, i think it's the best guitar i've ever touched, the sound is clean, the bass growls and the trebles ring, but what makes it a complete experience is that the back passes the vibration to the player, so you get to feel the guitar as well as hear it (i play fingerstyle pretty exclusively). i've been looking at (not playing) composite and carbon fiber guitars and i think the same might be true of them, mcpherson and composite acoustics guitars sound a whole lot better than some solid wood.

  • @johncotter8434
    @johncotter8434 3 года назад +2

    Thanks very much, Dominic, for sharing your extensive knowledge. Very helpful for me, thinking about my next build. I have a question about vibrations of the table: I got the impression that the monopole mode pumps air in and out of the sound hole, whereas the cross- and long dipoles merely move it within the guitar body (because one side of the soundboard goes up while the other goes down, suggesting cancellation). So, as I understand, the dipoles only make sound from the soundboard, not through the soundhole and, even that from the board would cancel to some extent for the listener in front. Leaves me wondering why the fanstrutting of classic guitars is designed to increase the cross-diapole (as I understood you to say). Surely it wastes sound energy and makes them quieter? Big problem in a concert hall.

  • @Nuttist
    @Nuttist 4 месяца назад

    26:00 I had never thought of the bridge as a brace. Thats fascinating that it is made to tie together the x brace on the inside.

  • @mikegoh2569
    @mikegoh2569 3 года назад

    Thank you. This is a great and informative video for guitarists.

  • @isaytheenay5961
    @isaytheenay5961 2 года назад

    Absolutely fantastic lecture.

  • @natesmith6345
    @natesmith6345 11 лет назад +2

    I wish to commend you--this has been the most comprehensive lecture on acoustic guitar making that I have seen--I am also a guitar builder and I have found this to be the most informative lecture yet---great job! I own Logan Elite Guitars--coming soon! At the moment you cannot purchase any of my guitars I am building a collection! You Sir are amazing! I wish I had the Public relations that you do to speak to the public! Thank You so much for this video!

  • @sjp1646
    @sjp1646 8 лет назад +1

    Brilliant. Really useful stuff. Thanks a lot!

  • @gnulen
    @gnulen 8 лет назад +119

    The first part sounded like a 3 dollar guitar without a proper setup

    • @aurozappa305
      @aurozappa305 8 лет назад +1

      +ZeGypsy lol for sure

    • @mickm8028
      @mickm8028 8 лет назад +12

      Thought that myself, you hear that and straight away you think your tone def, tune that fkin thing before you try to say that your physics make it sound better.

    • @PelleKuipers
      @PelleKuipers 8 лет назад +21

      I thought he was making a joke and a funny start by playing a crappy guitar and explaining why it was crappy.

    • @moonbeam5188
      @moonbeam5188 7 лет назад +3

      I thought it sounded like a washtub with strings attached. Worst I've heard!

    • @inthefade
      @inthefade 7 лет назад +1

      I really thought it was a joke too. Everything about it sounds terrible!

  • @jasonadams527
    @jasonadams527 7 лет назад

    Wonderful video thanks for sharing. I have a question if you would be so kind. Can you do a video on voicing the sound board and share your techniques? I noted the tapping and the music box. I use a tuning fork to get an idea but only have one fork in "A". From a physics perspective would you recommend all 8 notes to get a feel for resonance or is that a little over the top? I have only built a few guitars and I am now exploring voicing from a scientific perspective and would love your input.
    Also have you given any thought to chambering the body or know of anyone who has? What I am thinking is Dr. Bose's approach to speakers.
    But anyway this was really really thoughtful and provocative talk on the subject thank you from the bottom of my heart.

  • @JgHaverty
    @JgHaverty 11 лет назад +1

    great video, I learned a lot! thanks!

  • @asherhaig3265
    @asherhaig3265 Год назад

    Absolutely excellent! Thank you!

  • @robertnewell5057
    @robertnewell5057 7 лет назад +5

    Great video Dominic. You should ignore the Trolls. Lots of useful information in a short presentation. What are you using for the finish on these guitars?

  • @akfisher7138
    @akfisher7138 3 года назад +1

    the intro cheered me up!

  • @leyocaoile
    @leyocaoile 3 года назад

    Very informative... a snappy salute to Dominic Howman

  • @davidhamer8333
    @davidhamer8333 8 месяцев назад +1

    what a fascinating lecture. Beautiful presentation.

  • @ian4897
    @ian4897 10 лет назад +2

    Very interesting stuff, very helpful- thanks

  • @vaastonline
    @vaastonline 5 лет назад +1

    This guy must have some balls to start off a guitar related presentation by sucking to this extent on a simple tune. Respect.

  • @davyny129
    @davyny129 2 года назад +2

    19:49 He clearly mixed up between Venetian and Florentine cutaway... The Venetian is actually easier to make these days because machines can bend the sides through the use of a mould. Florentine requires a bit more handy work as the sharp curve is joined by two pieces of timber and a triangular supporting block at the location of the cutaway to help stabilising the cut it requires longer sides material to join otherwise you end up with weird grain pattern. That's why only high end custom built acoustic guitars have Florentine Cutaways as a standard e.g. Ervin Somogyi, Michael Greenfield, Matt McPherson...etc

  • @beltranator
    @beltranator 9 лет назад +3

    nailed it

  • @Goldfinga888
    @Goldfinga888 9 лет назад +3

    Excellent and very informative! Thanks?

  • @christopherhubbard9677
    @christopherhubbard9677 7 лет назад +3

    Very informative, thank you for the upload.

    • @curtinuniversity
      @curtinuniversity  7 лет назад +1

      You're welcome Christopher :) We are glad you like it - Brooklyn

  • @SteveStubbert
    @SteveStubbert 6 лет назад

    I would love to know what you think of Taylor's new V Bracing. I will consider this in my upcoming build

  • @williamjohn1953
    @williamjohn1953 7 лет назад

    Excellent video. Question: What is the reason for the angle of the tone braces in the lower bout. Jean Larrivee, I'm pretty sure, aligns his tone braces perpendicular to center ('symmetrical bracing'), and the Larrivee guitars I've heard and played have superb, bright tone and projection. Thanks, B.J.

  • @zazenrecords7439
    @zazenrecords7439 8 лет назад +1

    The 'sound hole' is actually an air hole, used to prevent any standing waves that would be self-interfering by letting air escape. People that record guitars for a living know this, and do not mic the guitar at the hole, but some where else. Almost all of the sound is produced by the vibrating top, so the materials and construction of the top is essential for a specific or pleasing sound. Thanks for the video; I liked it.

  • @davidclink1425
    @davidclink1425 9 лет назад +3

    As an engineer and a solid body hobby builder, I found this exactly the kind of information I wanted. The whys of instrument making have always fascinated me. Obviously the epitome of guitar building is the acoustic. Never tried one because of the precision required and the tools needed to get it right. Yet I now have a better understanding of the physics of the build. This is something that takes extreme patience, like learning to play, which is why I'm not much of a player. Would be nice to see a follow-on for the solid body and ways to optimize it and the various sounds you get from different woods. Thanks and remember Leo Fender was an engineer and allegedly didn't play guitar.

    • @cdreid99999
      @cdreid99999 6 лет назад

      ill build electrics all day long and have zero doubt i can make a brilliant electric. i wouldnt even attempt an acoustic

    • @tustudyis4life51
      @tustudyis4life51 3 года назад

      @@cdreid99999 electric has none of this if you have a str8 fretboard & saddle + pickup. A shoe could sound great. acoustics takes more wood skill, acoustic/resonance/sound knowledge, . Mount strings pickup and action you got a great electric. Its gr8 to start learning fundamentals. This is a skill/craft/art. Like comparing riding the bike to the Tour de France

  • @rockinpip4212
    @rockinpip4212 7 лет назад +3

    Hello thank you for the wonderful information,i was wondering if you have videos where you go through the process of making an acoustic guitar? thanks again great info!

    • @curtinuniversity
      @curtinuniversity  7 лет назад +1

      Hi Rockin Pip, sorry but I don’t have any videos on the process of making a guitar. Given the popularity of this video, I have been contemplating expanding the content. Construction methods would be inseparable from theory. - Dominic

    • @rockinpip4212
      @rockinpip4212 7 лет назад +1

      Curtin University
      thank you Dominic, i appreciate your reply

    • @EbonyPope
      @EbonyPope Год назад

      @@curtinuniversity You should have tuned your guitar though. If was painfully out of tune.

  • @TonyBraun
    @TonyBraun 4 года назад

    Awesome presentation.....very informative.

  • @Justic3h
    @Justic3h 7 лет назад +1

    this guy is fantastic

  • @jamespray478
    @jamespray478 7 лет назад

    Good stuff. Thank you.

  • @diegom.1510
    @diegom.1510 3 года назад +2

    "Guess ill let the guitar donthe talking" That guitar got a speech impediment bro 🤣🤣🤣

  • @philiphtube
    @philiphtube 3 года назад

    Fair enough, the playing at the beginning is a shocker but the rest of the video is really interesting if you want to know about the internal construction of an acoustic and why it's made like it's made. A really good place to stat if you are thinking about making one yourself.

  • @Rafal_Soboczynski
    @Rafal_Soboczynski 9 лет назад +1

    song title at the begging is "how to kill a blackbird" by Dominic Howman

  • @chadredding9997
    @chadredding9997 8 лет назад

    I enjoyed your video. It was well presented. I have a few questions: Does the species of wood (sitka spruce, western red cedar, red spruce, etc.), used for the bracing on the soundboard, have an effect on the sound of the guitar? What species of wood do you prefer, for the soundboard bracing, and why? Does the style of kerfing (traditional kerfing vs. reverse kerfing) have an effect on the tone of the guitar? Can you provide more information on the vibration tool used to "break in" a new guitar? Thanks in advance.

    • @curtinuniversity
      @curtinuniversity  8 лет назад +2

      Hi +Chad Redding, the species of wood used to brace the soundboard (and back) of a guitar is not as relevant as the stiffness of the wood used. Wood has such great variations in its mechanical properties that it is possible to make braces from two different species of wood that have identical mechanical properties. On the other hand it is possible to use the same species of wood from two different trees to make a brace and they have wildly different mechanical properties. So it is wrong to think “Martin used red spruce for their pre-war guitars so I must use red spruce to get a good sound from my guitar”. I use Sitka spruce for my bracing only because it is readily available to me. I weed out any brace stock with runout and skewed grain.
      What I do, and anyone serious about making guitars should do, is to consider the stiffness of the brace stock. There are many ways to measure stiffness. I prefer the old fashioned one of checking the grain count and flexing the brace with my hands. I don’t build with any pre-determined stiffness for individual braces, but find the stiffest wood and use that for the main X braces and the transverse braces on the lower bout. The skill in guitar making is not in what species of wood you use for bracing but how you carve the braces to control their stiffness. Using the stiffest wood allows you to make a brace with less mass.
      I haven’t explored the effect of different styles of kerfing - I use a traditional style. I have found that basswood is an excellent material to use. I was told by Bob Hoover during a tour of his Santa Cruz workshop that he liked the way basswood decouples vibrations from the top to the sides and the back to the sides. I was lucky enough to play some Santa Cruz guitars after the tour and have been a believer ever since. I handcut all my kerfing and have to say it’s my least favourite part of guitar making by a long shot.
      The best tool for breaking in a new guitar is your hands. I do have a Tonerite which is really just an expensive fish tank pump. Does it work? Yes it does take a brand new guitar and “settles” it down or “breaks it in”. It won’t change the fundamental tone of a guitar. Only someone who has strung up a guitar for the first time understands how much the sound changes in the first few weeks of stringing it up. Initially you might love the sound of a newly birthed guitar. Later that night you play it and it sounds awful. The next day it sounds heavenly etc. Once the tension soaks into the wood and it has been played (or Tonerited) for a few weeks, it’s essentially broken in. I sometimes get to play a friends guitar that gigs 3 or 4 nights a week, 3 hours at a time. That guitar sounds so wonderful and deep because the wood constantly gets a real workout. I think perhaps that is more what a Tonerite was designed to achieve. - Dominic

  • @mailvilla
    @mailvilla 7 лет назад

    Great video. May I ask, what is the purpose of the dark piece of wood in between the braces near sound hole?

    • @curtinuniversity
      @curtinuniversity  7 лет назад +2

      Hi mailvilla, I think the dark piece of wood near the soundhole you refer to is the bridge plate. It is made from hardwood and has a couple of purposes. Firstly it is the piece of wood inside the guitar that the ball ends of the strings sit against. Even though it is hardwood, it can show a lot of wear from the strings on very old guitars and needs to be replaced. Its second function has to do with controlling the bridge rotation. The bridge and bridge plate form one of the most important braces on the guitar top. You can actually measure how much the bridge rotates before it is strung up and after it is strung to pitch. Attaching something as simple as a skewer stick to the bridge so that the stick protrudes towards the neck of the guitar and parallel to the top will achieve this. A large thick bridge plate will inhibit the bridge rotation whereas a smaller thinner bridge plate will allow more rotation. This is simplified as the bridge plate also contacts the X braces which act as a system. This is not a trivial subject. My style of building places great importance on how much bridge rotation occurs - as that is the sum of soundboard stiffness, brace stiffness and placement of braces. - Dominic

  • @larrycortner6321
    @larrycortner6321 Год назад

    Thank you for the video ,very interesting .

  • @alswearingen323
    @alswearingen323 10 лет назад +1

    Great lecture. Obviously, this guy doesn't take himself (or his playing) too seriously. I'd enjoy a few hours of conversation (with a few pints) with this guy. Good stuff, Dom!

    • @tustudyis4life51
      @tustudyis4life51 3 года назад

      Most people take PLAYING music far to seriously. The forget its PLAYING egos destroy fun and the ability to learn and grow. Ive been around far to many of those. I would join you guys for beers but NO playing or fun conversation this is music and building instruments.

  • @USA4thewin
    @USA4thewin 6 лет назад

    so bridge location is the most important .. how do you determine where the bridge is located for maximum resonance

  • @ChernobieffPiano
    @ChernobieffPiano 2 года назад

    What happens in the wood for it to "open up"?

  • @CaveDave-dc6gv
    @CaveDave-dc6gv 7 лет назад

    great video! One of the key take aways was the physical properties of the soundboard playing a role. A particular species may be known for its qualities but those properties can be found in woods not necessarily known to be reputable. so the take away was, go with the properties of the piece you have. That being said, how could one do a quick specific gravity or modulus of elasticity calculation when you have a wood selection in front of you?

  • @vanrozay8871
    @vanrozay8871 9 лет назад

    very informative - thanks.

  • @mikeknowlden9617
    @mikeknowlden9617 Год назад

    1st Glad you reinforced what I thought of in regards to scaloping bracing. 2nd the placement of the bridge, is that THE exact center or from the end of the fretboard (top of the sound hole) to the end of the guitar? Lastly I appreciate this video it helps greatly

  • @curtinuniversity
    @curtinuniversity  11 лет назад

    Hi Bill, we are pleased to grant you permission to share this around on your channel.

  • @MrChatmoon
    @MrChatmoon 2 месяца назад

    Excellent

  • @ronakashortstraw1707
    @ronakashortstraw1707 Год назад

    That was so informative, the physics of guitar making applies to other string instruments. Many thanks

  • @user-nj2iu9mn2o
    @user-nj2iu9mn2o 6 месяцев назад

    Hello, I'm in the process of converting a small (580 mm scale length steel stringed guitar) to X-brace. Do you mean it is better to remove the tops of the "hills" completely. As in the top you show braced at around 30:00, please?
    Thanks for the video.

  • @brocluno01
    @brocluno01 6 лет назад +2

    The info is extremely good for luthiers :)
    The reason the intro sounds so bad is is because it's only partly picked up by his lapel mic. If he was playing into a proper mic, it would have been more even. As far as tuning, that could be an artifact of video speed, etc. Way to many influences to cancel out in an inexpensively made video in a glossy classroom setting. Do it all over in a sound studio correctly mic'd, and most folks would not have the gripes ...

    • @ed-rb4bs
      @ed-rb4bs 4 года назад

      Nope.

    • @tustudyis4life51
      @tustudyis4life51 3 года назад

      @@ed-rb4bs was going to ask if you learned anything from this awesome lecture but you already answered my question

    • @johnhenrysguitar
      @johnhenrysguitar 2 года назад

      It definitely was out of tune lol, it happens though

  • @gerhardwiesinger
    @gerhardwiesinger 6 лет назад

    Is it possible to download the presentation somewhere? Thnx.

  • @shanehansen7363
    @shanehansen7363 7 лет назад +1

    very informative, thank you

  • @murrmac
    @murrmac 11 лет назад +1

    very professional presentation, well done ... ...I have to point out however that you got your Florentines and your Venetians mixed up ... the Florentine cutaway (as seen in the video) is the pointy one ...the Venetian cutaway is the one with the smooth rounded curves,

  • @Tricknologyinc
    @Tricknologyinc 9 лет назад +4

    I've heard that tuning the instrument helps demonstrate it's design better... or did you design it for avant gard?

  • @MicroRCFiend
    @MicroRCFiend 8 лет назад +3

    Super interesting presentation, the bracing designs and techniques are fascinating. It's really tough to take it seriously when all your guitars are so far out of tune though, there's really no excuse for not tuning a guitar and a real shame we couldn't enjoy the sound of all your hard work and plethora of styles of build. Immediately it makes someone question why such as detailed, obsessive, obviously talented creator would ignore 30 seconds to put a guitar in tune?
    Maybe some overlays of you playing in tune over those small parts would help. It's a tiny point but a guitar maker should care about tune more or what other small points could he be missing are the thoughts that come to mind. At least I would have expected you to mention it as not doing suggests you were not aware it was out of tune or simply didn't care.
    Both are odd choices.

    • @aaronwebb1548
      @aaronwebb1548 3 года назад +1

      Yeah those guitars clearly just went from a hot car to a cold room, but generally there's about 10 minutes to set up a computer and move everything into the room, so I get how easy it would be to overlook. Especially while trying to prepare yourself to speak for an hour.
      Still should've been mentioned though, but I guess once you start the show must go on!

  • @tommygauffin2893
    @tommygauffin2893 8 лет назад +1

    really interesting

  • @79antigua
    @79antigua 7 лет назад

    very informative,I don't build but for purchasing a guitar I will now tap the back and the bridge.

  • @thayerhealey3
    @thayerhealey3 11 лет назад +1

    FYI at around 20:00 when you are holding your guitar and talking about the cutaways you have it backwards. the one you are holding is a florentine cutaway and the smooth curved style is a venetian cutaway.

    • @northtrader
      @northtrader Год назад

      Glad I found your comment .... avoided a duplicate. Yep, got the folrentine and venetian backwards.

  • @hellopsp180
    @hellopsp180 Год назад

    53:16 did you mean the string angle into the bridge ?
    Sharper angle the higher the force without having to raise the saddle.

  • @0v3nm4n
    @0v3nm4n 11 лет назад

    whats the name of the oscillating disk he is talking about that will break in the guitar faster?

  • @amrkhaledelfar6724
    @amrkhaledelfar6724 6 лет назад

    I want to the dimensions of guitar to design it please i'm wait 😷

  • @PinprickSociety
    @PinprickSociety 8 лет назад +1

    Firstly, this is an excellent video.
    Would you make a guitar with sides and back also made from spruce, as well as the soundboard?

    • @curtinuniversity
      @curtinuniversity  8 лет назад

      Hi PinprickSociety, that’s an interesting question. It is accepted that the majority of the sound from a guitar is from the top. Making the sides from Spruce would be quite a challenge to bend. I don’t know that, but knowing how stiff spruce is I could imagine it would split if bent too tightly. Making the back and top from Spruce, with say Mahogany sides would be the way to go if I went down that road. Not quite sure what you would achieve by using a Spruce back. If you think of a drum with both skins the same and tensioned the same you would have a very resonant instrument at one particular frequency. Modern drum kits typically have a thin skin on the bottom and a thicker skin on top. This mismatch provides a more complex sound from the drum. In the same way, using woods such as Rosewood, Mahogany and Maple for the guitar back (and a different bracing pattern) give the instruments tonal complexity. The back also plays a large part in the projection and sustain of the instrument. Empirical evidence is usually (not always) a good guide as to whether Spruce would work better (or differently in a good way) than using hardwoods. There is no doubt that at some stage it would have been tried in the history of stringed instrument making by more than one luthier. There may well be instruments out there constructed this way, but the softwood top and hardwood back and sides dominates in guitar making I guess for a reason. - Dominic

    • @PinprickSociety
      @PinprickSociety 8 лет назад +1

      Dominic,
      Thank you for replying to my comment!
      I am indeed interest in building my own classical guitars, so I found your video very educational. I discovered it by searching "the physics of guitars."
      I don't have a background in physics or acoustics, but I tend to be autodidactic and would be very interested in learning more about the physics of guitars and sound.
      Maple would probably be the most available option for me to use in making the guitar's back.
      Thanks again for your reply, and I wish you the best success in your future videos and other endeavors.
      -Patrick
      www.reverbnation.com/pinprick#

    • @fusion-music
      @fusion-music 7 лет назад

      Yes, this is an excellent presentation. I do think that the topic of an extra sound port on a guitar is much like the issue of cutaways. I personally think side soundports are great and luthiers put a lot of thought into them. The ones that I have examined have been innovative and luthiers put so much attention on beauty of whay can be seen. Your question about using spruce for back and sides as well as the top is a good one. You can do what ever you choose, but you would want to know why luthiers don't use it. it would quickly become damaged. The tone would be a lot thinner. But that shouldn't stop you doing it. At the end of the day, you are just making anninstrument. Its tone may not compete with the rich tones of some guitars, but it's still an instrument with a distinctive sound. Look at the resonator. Terrible sound but just magic for some styles. The important thing is to learn from the decisions you make.

    • @PinprickSociety
      @PinprickSociety 7 лет назад

      Fusion Music Thank you for your input! Very nicely said.
      I recently found an old, beat up, badly damaged guitar at a thrift store for $20. I thought it would be a great starter project for me. As it turns out, it's a 1938 Recording King made by Gibson.
      The fretboard was mostly separated from the neck, and there are quite a lot of scratches and wear. The worst part is that there's a bunch of junk inside, so I am trying to figure out how to take it completely apart.
      I indeed would like to learn more, so your thoughtful comment is appreciated.

  • @Ratatoing42
    @Ratatoing42 10 лет назад

    Good lord that opening.