Mixing in mono Explained, Mid Sides and Stereo Low Frequencies 101
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In this video we talk about mono compatibility, mixing in mono,
when, how and why and we take a crack at stereolow frequencies
and how to deal with that with Mid Side processing and monitoring.
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I am so glad somebody is bringing some sanity to producing music with the ever widening stereo image which technology has made possible. There are many ways to push the boundaries. Some are great, some are very destructive. I worked in FM radio starting in 1972. Phase relationship between the left and right channels was critical, especially back in the old days. Why? Well, so many radios were mono. Car radios, clock radios, etc. If you didn't pay attention to phase and there were problems, people listening to a stereo FM station on a mono radio could experience anything from a slight flanging effect, to songs with the singer's vocal missing, to total dead air, all of which were bad. So listening to everything we produced in MONO, before it went on the air, was critical. It still is, If your work ever ends up on the radio, or gets played on a mono device. Granted, few mono radios are manufactured these days. However, many radios, especially car radios, have a blend function. When the signal gets weak and can no longer be resolved to full stereo because the weakest link, the stereo sub-carrier info, is dropping out, the radio will blend it as much as needed to avoid noise or sudden shifts from stereo to mono, which are annoying. If you ever listen to radio in a car, believe me, there are times when you are hearing audio summed to mono. You probably don't even notice because the advent of blend makes the transition subtle. My point is, if you don't know what your stuff sounds like in mono, you may be in for a rude surprise if you ever hear it on the radio. That's why mono compatibility is still extremely important. Some engineers are "phase deaf" and don't notice stereo images where the left and right are out of phase, but switch to mono and their jaws drop when the drums or bass or vocal or anything 180º out of phase vanishes from the mix. Trust me, I've heard it happen too many times. Granted, that's the worst case scenario, but even 90º phase differences are hideous when summed. My favorite screw up came from a commercial production house. They mixed a commercial with stereo music and a mono voice track. The music bed was in phase, but sadly for them, the centered voice track was 180º out of phase. In stereo, most people wouldn't notice, but in mono listeners heard the music bed, but NO announcer! Now how do you fix that? Well, I dubbed the left channel audio only to left and right, then called the agency so they could fix it and send out a proper mix. The music lost a little something without the right channel information, but at least the voice track didn't vanish. So ask yourself, how much of your music are you willing to sacrifice if it gets played on radio. If you don't care, don't check mono compatibility. If you do care, take the advise in this video seriously. It is great advise.
i do care.... and this is good info 🙏 6-7 yrs later
Just recently did this for the first time and had a "that's the sound" moment when I back to stereo. It makes so much sense really. The focus is tricking the brain to focus in the "Center" so the center should be the main pallet. Clear, present, punchy, bassy, Center. Then just pan and feel the glory.
I know this is an older video, but Man You make such great "Common Sense" out of intricacies in Production work that anyone novice or otherwise can always understand. thank You again.
This is What's UP!!!!!! Thank you so much. You're speaking my language by how you explain the reasons why these techniques should be employed. I am now a regular viewer good sir...... Peace Out
Yes,that is very true about having energy in middle and sides.I started to produce EDM and many instruments, synths, effects are very present on sides giving you those thrills when listening and you take this peasure from it.However bass lines, some percussive intruments , subsonic frequencies should have some content in mono as they travel on longer distances giving listener that warm punch feel.
Thank's so much for pointing this out! This is probably the most important video on production of the last year, seriously! Thanks for the great advice!!!!!!
***** thanks for this great video, clear explanation, no BS. Very useful info. Claude Young thanks for sharing, would have missed this otherwise.
Can't wait for some spare time to apply these techniques :-)
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I just started taking production seriously and am trying to learn as much as possible so I'm nowhere near an expert and my music shows. Anyway, I don't completely mix and mono. But I do EQ mainly in mono. I've found that if I can get it to sound as good as possible in mono it usually sounds really good in stereo. Everything else I do in stereo because many effects you can barely hear in mono and I'd tend to then go overboard with them trying to hear them. I do switch back and forth throughout the mixing though just to make sure it still sounds as good as possible in mono. Really I still have no idea what I'm doing. I just go with the flow and play it by ear. In the beginning I was watching tutorial after tutorial trying to learn all this stuff and all that did was led me to do a bunch of unnecessary stuff by default.
I wasn't even looking for a tutorial when I came to your video. I was just looking for a mono plugin because I just switched from using the FL demo to LMMS and they don't have a mono switch built into their mixer. I'm glad I stuck around to watch though. I like the advice you give. Subbed!
Thank you. very very very much.
every thing you post is very logic and pragmatic. Now i' m beginning to understand the art of mixig. you have a good way to explain it's help so much.
Again, thank you so much for all your informative videos, always good info and tought in a way that is no bullshit and easy to understand. kickass! :)
so good tutorials man
Always clear helpful advice , cheers Bro
Agree with everything you say, man. But that M button in the plugin is actually soloing the mid content, which is different from collapsing the mix to mono. Love the channel.
@@akaptv4274 Collapsing to mono is just summing L and R. Soloing the mid content is listening to the content that is identical in both channels (usually sound bassy and dry), as soloing the side content is listening to the content that is different in both sides (usually sounds phasy, airy). Makes sense? Try a comparison using a plugin that has a "mono" button versus one that has "M" and "S".
@@akaptv4274 I can't explain because I really don't know much about programming. But I suppose it's a very simple analysis task. Try that test I suggested you.
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Hi mixbis. I work on FL studio . When I mix my project I usually mono my kick and bass in mono and the master channel channel in mono. So once Iam done I keep my master channel knob in the center leaving the kick and bass in mono while rendering the final fix. Is it the rite thing or do I have to keep my kick and bass to reset. Pls advice will be humbled
I really have hard time understanding your question, why would you have your master in mono? Just keep you kick and snare mono (altho' that is a very basic thing, most likely you'd want some snare on the sides and sometimes kick too) and leave your master fader in stereo.
@@mixbustv thank u so much.
Everyone talks about the low end but not the high end. I find that in most of my tracks (and others) the Mono version sounds a bit duller. Is this high frequencies phasing and cancelling ? Can we do anything about it or is it just how it goes ?
Many Thanks
What vocal collapsing in the mid side? I mean if u add too much energy / low frequencies in the center? How to deal with that.
Thank u!
Wow learned so much!!
Thanks for the useful information 👍🏼
My mixer is old. Very old. I keep it because it has a Mono/Stereo switch. Very convenient.
Hi, i have a question about cutting low end in sides ! in your position you have 2 elements that support each other 1 sub bass in mono & 1 synth bass in stereo why you didn't high pass the synth bass in the mid section and let the Sides glue with the first sub bass ?
first of all, thank u for sharing your self confidenced knowlege with us, that is fckin great!
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can i ask u... lets say i dont want to make music for radios... lets say the music we are talkin about is just for clubs with small systems and clubs and festivals... is there a mixingdifference... and my mixings sounds not to bad in stereo but in mono all of the nice side informations just disapears and whats left back is a strong low-mid information with crappy thin mid and high elements not in a stereofield.
what is your advise for making just clubmusic?
i see u makin a mix with over 200tracks! how do you organize your tracks, busses, sends and all of that! ive got problems organizin 45tracks!
great videos again!!!
thanx
Thank U Sir for explaning everything everything at once ...i think iv gut it now ...
this channel is awesome thanks for share your skills broo
I love your videos! I have a short question:
Does the m-button on the bx_control really stand for mid AND mono? I thought that the mid signal just subtracts the sides and mono on the other hand puts mid and sides together(in a non stereo way) and it therefore is not the same thing.
Hello loved watching the video really enjoyed 1 and 2 one question do you LPF the Sides or the Mids in the Mid-Side process or does it matter? please help me solve this long mystery thanks in advance
Is it possible to take just the sides (ie: Mute the MID using a widener), and then take the sides and re-sample them back into a mono capable format? I'm not finding a way to do this in Ableton. Thanks David!
hahah and some guy some where is busy campaigning that they spend 80% of the time mixing in Mono.. like really? how practical is that..? and why have a stereo system in the studio when you on spent 20% of time on it?.. thanx mix Bus this makes so much sense... we check mono compatibility and make the right trade offs that's all
Jewels... Thank you. Very informative!
@mixbustv what do you mean by low frequency content usually lives in the mono/mid area?
Nice I'd like to know more about this subject for metal mixes...I bought your metal mix master course but I havent checked it yet..I hope the answer is in there.
Yep
Voxengo MSED is good too for m/s
Hey MIXBUSTV! I am very new to mixing and music in general. I watch alot of your videos (i love them) where you talk about having some sounds on the sides. I was wondering if you could explain what you mean by stuff to the sides and not the middle, do one pan two of the same audio hard right and hard left or do you make it stereo by other means and it happens?
Ty!!
@@mixbustv Thank you thank you! that cleared things up for me
Very good advice!
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so when you are done you should export your final mix in mono?
I feel you are right but you say everything against what I usually do lol
Wait a minute, im not trying to be rude, when you click on the M (mono) button of the plugin, you are only listening to the mono information of the stereo signal, not the paned stuff, isnt this "trying your mix in mono" supposed to be like making your stereo signal mono and then listen to it? You have a mono maker knob on your plugin (only the test should have to be through all frequencies from 20hz to 20khz), that to me is what makes the test of the mono mix to actually send everything to mono and then listen to it so it wont collapse, that way you'll hear even the side stuff in mono like the reverb trails, i tought this was the case to send everything to mono and then listen to it and if you can hear everything in its right place (i mean that things dont get muddy and if it gets muddy they are in need of better eq'ing, and if they cancel each other means they are out of phase ,which they should if they are stuff like reverb but not punch tracks like say panned guitars if you have a kick and its placed center of course it will be there all the time...) and clear you have a good mix, i.e when you listen to an iphone speaker and everything goes mono even the side stuff .... I hope i make myself clear , what do you think? (Sorry for my english, its not my first language)
At least to me that should be the test, to convert momentarily to mono even the side stuff... Try it out with the waves plug in called shuffler and turn everything center. Of course this is not the only plugin able to do it. I think thats the correct way to do the test.
You are totally right !!!
thanks for the tutorial.°-°
thanks a lot for your channel!!
yes, i heard of turning everything below 250hz to mono
not every things
Thanku sir for very helpful tutorial but i have 1 qsn ......
Pro tools in windows?????
then all my frnds lie to me they say's pro tools only for mac not for windows
where can i download trail version
thanks sir :)
What does mid button in this brainworx plugin actually do? Does it sum L and R channels or shows content which is present in both? And what about side button?
+MixbusTV Thanks, it did help ;)
+Baptiste Cavallo Mono of 2 channel stereo = L+R summed.
The sides (or differnece, ie: everything not common to both channels) = L-R.
exactly how would pushing the mid button help me check mono compatibility, in order for you to check mono, the sides will need to be brought into the middle to see if there's any phasing issues, so bringing the width to 0 is definitely a better option to check mono compatibility
Cachet Records exactly, you should make "everything" mono to do the test correctly. So you check that everything its still listenable and you dont lose clarity of the elements.
My biggest question was answered
any other vsts that do the same ability of monoing?
Thank you. I also sent an email for some other questions also.
***** Hi, what if i use the Bitwig "Tool" to monoize?
***** It's the same than Ableton Live "utility", with the width knob?
Also i wanted to say i'll never put A1 stereo control (for its monoizer) on my Master, in fact i think i won't use it at all anymore... or maybe for its Stereo Side only function (bx-solo renders it mono).
Tkm
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i often EQ in mono as its easier to hear what i'm affecting as opposed to EQ'ing when its panned left or right.
Solid information as always. LIKE