I believe you've made a very subtle error in your initial deductions for Game 2 at 10:10. Yellow *could* be 5 (i.e. greater than 4) without making Verifier B superfluous. You're correct in noting that *if* yellow is 5, then Verifier B can be solved immediately; but *that* *alone* does not necessarily make it superfluous. Its existence still provides new information - namely, that blue & yellow are not equal to 5 (without the presence of Verifier B, the code could be 55x or x55). Yellow > 5 might still be eliminated by including the necessity for other verifiers (e.g. D). In your case, the query ended up telling you Yellow < 4. The rules say "No Verifier will repeat information". Even with Yellow > 5, these verifiers are communicating related - but different - information.
Hope you enjoy it! The wait for getting new games is definitely something I can relate to. This game is not for everyone but it's for sure a game for me (and quickly becoming one of my favorites)
In the first two games, for initial deductions, you can eliminate the triple number from D since you can't also have a largest single number for B if there's a triple number.
To further the idea of "Initial Deduction", one should identify "Binary Questions". I think they are best to be asked last for disambiguation, unless asking them turns other questions Binary. For example, in game 1, questions like B and C are best to ask first (they can both be failed up to twice to be meaningful). If you get lucky, you will shave at least 1 questions off. (As seen in Game 2)
In the final code, I think I got an extra starting deduction. I had the same as you: 1. Can't be 3 fours, as card F and D would be obsolete 2. Can't be 2 fours, as card D would be obsolete (we would know there's definitely more evens than odds) 3. Can't be a triple number, as then we wouldn't need both card A and card D to determine whether the number was odd or even). The extra was: 4. Square can't be equal to circle. If it was, we would know there is a double digit, which combined with deduction number 3 above, would make card F obsolete.
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I love watching you play Turing Machine. Thank you!!!
Glad you enjoyed watching! I really appreciate the kind words. Thanks for making such a unique and fun game :D
I believe you've made a very subtle error in your initial deductions for Game 2 at 10:10. Yellow *could* be 5 (i.e. greater than 4) without making Verifier B superfluous. You're correct in noting that *if* yellow is 5, then Verifier B can be solved immediately; but *that* *alone* does not necessarily make it superfluous. Its existence still provides new information - namely, that blue & yellow are not equal to 5 (without the presence of Verifier B, the code could be 55x or x55).
Yellow > 5 might still be eliminated by including the necessity for other verifiers (e.g. D). In your case, the query ended up telling you Yellow < 4.
The rules say "No Verifier will repeat information". Even with Yellow > 5, these verifiers are communicating related - but different - information.
Anxiously awaiting my copy so I'm watching all the content I can, why must November be so far away! Enjoyed playing along in my head. :)
Hope you enjoy it! The wait for getting new games is definitely something I can relate to. This game is not for everyone but it's for sure a game for me (and quickly becoming one of my favorites)
In the first two games, for initial deductions, you can eliminate the triple number from D since you can't also have a largest single number for B if there's a triple number.
Good point! I was not thinking about triple numbers as much in this video as I still thought they weren't possible (which is definitely not the case)
Well, that got me to preorder the game. Thanks!
Glad to hear! It's such a fantastic game, hope you enjoy it whenever it arrives
To further the idea of "Initial Deduction", one should identify "Binary Questions". I think they are best to be asked last for disambiguation, unless asking them turns other questions Binary.
For example, in game 1, questions like B and C are best to ask first (they can both be failed up to twice to be meaningful). If you get lucky, you will shave at least 1 questions off. (As seen in Game 2)
Good point! I completely agree and that's something I've definitely been on the lookout for more in my recent play throughs
11:45 Verifier B gave a check mark but you recorded it as a cross???
Good catch! I misspoke when marking that down
In the final code, I think I got an extra starting deduction. I had the same as you:
1. Can't be 3 fours, as card F and D would be obsolete
2. Can't be 2 fours, as card D would be obsolete (we would know there's definitely more evens than odds)
3. Can't be a triple number, as then we wouldn't need both card A and card D to determine whether the number was odd or even).
The extra was:
4. Square can't be equal to circle. If it was, we would know there is a double digit, which combined with deduction number 3 above, would make card F obsolete.
You are so right! I definitely missed that one, good catch :)
It might be worth it to note that there can NEVER be three 4's when that card is in play because it makes ALL other cards obsolete.
Liked your playthrough but the music was annoying!!! Otherwise great
I appreciate the feedback! Would you prefer the music quieter, a different type of music, or just no music altogether?