You are wrong, the batteries now are the same mass as in 2009 when KERS was first introduced, 25kg. Fuel mass is significantly decreased from 2009, as is drag from radiators. The current PUs are not why the cars are big or heavy, the 2014 car has almost the same dimensions as the 2013 car. The cars are big and heavy because pirelli provides heavy and terrible tires..
@@byanymeansnecessary9329 the ICE plus hybrid systems are heavier then just having ICE. You are wrong. Watch the video he says the engines are heavier then ever. When in fact the ICE is lighter then ever.
@@Firemarioflower completely free engine regs would be missing the point of f1 the very first ruleset was aboput engine regs and has been ever since but it could be interesting
@@priyam352 Well at least more variations in cylinders, atmospheric vs turbo, size would make it better. Every brand and team doing their own specialism to the engine.
@@Firemarioflower yes that would be very interesting to see but hard to implement fairly and has already been tried once i think in like the 70s were na and turbo cars were both allowed it was just unfair
@@fetBif it allows ICE for racing (only) it's good. Synthetic "sustainable" fuels are too expensive/difficult to produce in quantity for road use. I'm sure global racing won't cause the glaciers to disappear.
@@jasmijnariel the v8's are also good... but tbh maybe the cars on v6 would sound better if they would have 22k rpm instead of 10k like the v8-v12 engines
@@Mikoto_Suoh In my opinion teams should have an option between V6 and V8 (maybe V10 too), like in WEC. Manufacturers could work on engine of their chosen type and use developed technologies in road cars. I think that a lot of car brands will be interested to join in F1
The cars will be smaller, but still much bigger than what we had prior to 2017. The cars will be lighter, but still heavier than what we had prior to 2022. Instead of simplifying the cars to make the racing more exciting like they tried in 2022, they made a much more complex car with even more DRS gimmicks all to appease manufacturers that are trying to greenwash the public. I don't want to be overly negative before the cars have even hit the track, but this is not sounding promising at all.
We can't go back to 2007 size and weight even if we remove all the gimmick and stuff. Because one thing safety structure. F2 car is basically what F1 car without the gimmick to appease manufacturer and it's still weight almost as an F1 car
This is so silly! Someone is working to the metric of “increase overtaking” which is just plain wrong. The quality of overtakes is nothing anymore. Nothing.
We have an overtaking button already though. First it was KERS back in the 2000, then became the Overtake button. Now it just seems like it’s gonna be way too explosive though… 😭
Yep... You could make that a rule but you'll lose all of the engine suppliers so good luck. They're only interested when it's relevant to road tech otherwise you're investing money for no reason
But they will only be able to use full power for a small amount of time before the battery drains, much of the racing will involve running at a lower power to charge the battery.
they can't be fully electric untill 2040 at the earliest cus Fornula E has a exclusivity contract that expires in 2039. but most people still hate the v6's anyway so.
It all seems so complicated and ridiculous. Fast drivers driving fast cars at the limit. Raw speed. Power. The feeling of the sound reverberating through your body. That’s it that’s what F1 is. The rest is bells and whistles
Why? Why make 50% electrics? Literally serves no purpose outside of virtue signaling the rubbish net zero “goal” which won’t ever be accomplished without fake numbers and lots of sanctimony from the elites that pay for their kids to drive these cars. All the while we yearn for real racing with real engines.
Omg grow up ..... This is not "virtue signalling", most manufacturers are working towards hybrid engines Lamborghini just made a v12 hybrid ...... The fia doesn't come up these regulations out of their arse they work with manufacturers align the regulations according to what they're are developing, if this doesn't happen then F1 will become a financial hole for these companies
There’s literally no reason to abandon petrol engines, so the reasons you state in your reply (for why it’s important F1 goes this direction) miss the overall point that greater electrification of everyday life will be a net drag on human existence. So, while I don’t disagree with your reasoning visa vie the car industry Formula 1 collaboration, I still stand by my original position that this is a ridiculous path we are on altogether. I hope we see better racing in 2026, but with heavier cars and the changes that will come from having to figure out what to do with all that “instant torque” and how to deploy it effectively, my glass half empty self wonders if this will be a return to the days of anti-skid and traction control…remember how awesome that was?
@@Megaman231122 batteries are heavy, dirty. No aggressive overtakes if your opponent has literally the same stuff. Leave electric for Formula E, I never heard anyone say "I dream of F1 having smaller engines and more e-power"
It’s the future unfortunately. By 2035 there will be no more new cars with combustion engines. F1 is gravitating towards that. One day and in the not too distant future, F1 will be fully electric and replace Formula E. I don’t like it either but it’s the truth.
@wolfgangvan-uber6515 I don't see it as a good or bad thing since EV tech is advancing fairly rapidly. Who knows what these engines will be able to do in another 10 years
@@wolfgangvan-uber6515 Money talks and when people stop watching they will be forced back. Also electric cars are pointless when you have to burn coal to power them and use slave children in africa to mine cobalt.
@@wolfgangvan-uber6515 it's not the future, it's the past. Do you honestly think F1 would allow any sort of meaningful research into sustainable engines while being sponsored by aramco and petronas? It's just marketing
A 70-80% of combustion engine, would be perfect, with eco-fuel. More RPM, way smaller with lighter electric engine that recharges just from the breakings. They always choose the worst path to follow.
Batteries are not clean, this is not the way to go if they think this will create some planet saving tech. Go for synthetic fuels with V10s, best show ever with carbon footprint way below what could EVs ever dream of
How can you possibly be excited? These are going to be generators on wheels. They can't even use the full 1000hp for even a full lap. Once the batteries is dead. Your only get 500 hp while trying to charge the battery. Not to mention driver will probably be overtaken not due to skill but simply because they have to charge a huge battery and the other driver doesn't.
@@accent1666 they can't even keep the battery charged for more than 30 seconds now. Much less when the electric motor is going to be make around 3x the power it currently has. The teams have already talked about. F1 engineers are great but this isn't about F1 anymore it's just green washing.
Vettel - Proves that you can have a much smaller, much lighter car with a loud V10 using sustainable carbon neutral fuel. F1 - 'So, we're making the car 10cm smaller, extremely heavy, an even quieter engine with even more artificial aids.'
@@Lianpe98mate, you want a 500hp f1 car thst reaches 1000 for like 12 seconds, and then has to recharge its 50% power output for another lap? The active aero is already seemingly a flop, the drivers are complaining that the car is undriveable. This will be a massive flop, they should have gone for N/A V10 with 100% sustainable fuels
@@croatiaboy11 What are you talking about? It's not gonna be 12 seconds. The drivers have not driven a single 2026 car because they have not built one. Don't take speculation as factual.
@@Lianpe98 mate there were tests done in the simulator of a 2026 regs car and it was so unstable it was said the drivers that drove it had to slow down to the point of being slower than the current f2 cars. Also of course the power output of the battery will not last long, the amount of horspower that can be outputted by it was heightened, but what about the capacity? Nothing was said about it, at least not that I know of.
We could, it’s all about the manufactures and making something that has road relevancy for them. Teams don’t participate strictly or even primarily for the love of the sport, it is a business at the end of the day. Doesn’t matter how much love you have, if it’s too much of a money pit teams will pull out. Ideally what we would have for the next rules cycle is v8 or v10 engines running on 100% synthetic bio fuel and no hybrid. And cars that are even smaller and much lighter than the next rules cycle. No active aero, drs, and much less aero. But that’s capitalism for you.
Could you elaborate please? I personally don't see any logical reason as to why any of these changes would make F1 worse. The size of the cars has been an issue which made overtaking difficult, so smaller cars should make racing better. The same goes for the weight of the cars. They're also getting even more power, and especially the electric motors are helpful to give the cars even more torque for faster acceleration. It also shows that the FIA/F1 are taking our environmental issues at least somewhat seriously which will help with public and political support for the sport over the coming years/decades.
I think they did the right thing by reducing the size but making it a 50-50 split between combustion and electric is what I don't like. Obviously ion mind people having different opinions but personally I don't like it. We have formula e for this kind of stuff it's literally made for electric cars we don't need 2 formula e's . U don't see formula e putting a V6 in their cars
@@user-lz3zt8iq4f Fun fact: Formula E has some sort of patent on fully electric single seater racing. I'm not sure if there can be a fully electric single seater racing series that isn't affiliated with the FIA, but I do know that Formula 1 isn't allowed to go fully electric even if they wanted to. I think that 'patent' (I don't know what it's called, so I'll just call it a patent for now) expires in 2035 or something like that, so Formula 1 isn't forced to stay in the past forever, but Formula 1 is still stuck with the combustion engines for a while. So you don't have to worry about it just yet :)
The size difference is not only thanks to the engines, it's also because of the safety changes that were made in the last 2 decades. But I'd also rather have v10s back on the menu.
I'm still wondering why did the fia create the lmp1 and hypercar category for hybrid power train development in endurance racing. Which actually benefits from hybrid. Only to make f1 hybrid too with tech that no road car will ever implement
50% battery power, gas engine may as well just be a generator. The 2030 cars won't directly connect the gas engine to the transmission, as it will just be a generator for Electric engines.
@@ChrispyNutThen go watch Formula E. Batteries are heavy and have a fraction of the energy density as gasoline. We want light cars, until we can make an F1 EV last 2 hours at full throttle AND weigh less than 800kg, we aren't ready. Even 800kg is too much, we realistically want these cars to weigh 600kg like the golden Schumacher years.
F1 or the FIA have no idea what they’re doing - at all. They bring in these complex ass engines that cost about a billion to build from scratch then they’re like nah that was a bad idea let’s do this differently. Then they get rid of arguably the best cars we’ve had in recent years to end Mercedes dominance but now we just have redbull dominance. The cars were supposed to be better for competition yet, there is only one team winning and generally one point to be spared between the lower 5 teams. These changes have been horrendous and have seen slower racing in general. What a bunch of idiots.
it's always like this with these ruling bodies and their monopolised grasp on sports. They keep making up retarded regulations and make everything worse
F1 the supposedly “pinnacle” of motorsports where you can’t drive too fast or else you’ll destroy your engine. You can’t drive too hard or else you’ll destroy your tires. You can’t drive too close to catch up the car you’re chasing in front of you because of dirty air, what a joke.
If RB is not the main reason for Newey’s possible retirement. This regulation will be. Judging from the past regulations on how FIA always failed on their original intentions, 2026 PU and active aero will become ridiculously expensive to develop whilst having a chassis that’s heavier than a tractor. Racing will become so artificial that the skills of drivers aren’t needed anymore. Unless the FIA hires Newey to solve the current problems of the regulation, I can’t see any benefits from it
Couldn't agree more. I will most likely stop watching the sport. Imagine your favorite driver being passed just because he ran out of battery this lap and the other guy is fully charged. Not to mention they are neutering the ICE so they can make this 50/50 split. They can't even use full power for a full lap What joke this regulation period will be
V8: Haha! And how do you intend to Overpower us? V6: Oh no, I can’t overpower you. But my buddy can! Say hi buddy! V10: HÍÌĪ. 😈 V10 Leader: What do we want?! Fans: V10!!! V10 Leader: When do we want it?! Fans: NOW!!!
Everyone forgets that f1 is about innovation, almost all modern car technology came from f1 at a point. It’s where manufacturers are able to put r&d to develop features or technology or better understand aero or electric components that tbey can then put into a production car, look at active suspension, look at traction control, yeah some of the recent innovations suck but sadly we’re moving away from ice engines and there’s nothing we can do about it
@@ChristopherPortorreal-ol2mj I think it’s cuz hydrogen wasn’t really widely adopted and not many companies make any hydrogen powered engines currenlty, not to mention high performance ones they can take parts of to make an f1 engine or vice versa, evs are where the world is going but I don’t think it’s viable for anything but racing at the moment, batteries don’t last nearly long enough to justify the cost and pollution we put in the ground when they get trashed. Hydrogen or natural gas would be nice options, I feel like if Porsche gets involved they might even try to use their eco friendly fuel they started developing but I think that’s still 10 or 50$ a gallon it was absurd j can’t remember what tho
@@elijah2712 Porsche even refuses to make the iconic 911 electric and the CEO of Ford decides to not end the V8. Heck Toyota even developed a hydrogen combustion engine for their Corolla and I believe eco friendly fuel and natural gas or even hydrogen will stop making these people stop shoving evs down our throats
This is still not yet confirmed. The power of engine is too low, while there is no energy, the car will be so slow as the power of electric is not consistent, even slower than today's f2 car
Wish they'd go for a formula with more drag and downforce instead. The ICE end power is perfect for good slipstream in 2026, should help to compensate the dirt air. But they are trying to reduce drag while trying to create passing... just take a look at past 20 years, you had lots of downforce and dirt air, but too much power so the cars could never close in fast enough. Then right now you have less slipstream while dirt air is just as bad as it was before current rules, and they still have too much power so slipstream is terrible and even DRS is not as effective
@@Gamurboi Nope. 2021 and before still had the issue of too much end power. Too much power means the car ahead can deal well with drag, the faster it goes the worse it is for slipstream (well unless you are in a superspeedway oval, but that's another topic). Just watch any battle pre DRS, specially when F1 had proper tires. Alonso x Schumacher epic chase in Imola 2005 is a great example. They are close all the time but Schumacher never had enough slipstream because with that much Power it meant Alonso also had decent final speeds. If you want more overtakes you need more acceleration and lower top speeds (this is where hybrids are great). Mix that with high drag and things will work, the car ahead will have a hard time with drag, the one behind will have a hole open in the air for it. Or just add a hanford device to F1 lol that activates only on straights, inverse DRS 😅but since it's for road courses it'd have to be pretty big compared to the version they used in CART back in the late 90s~early 00s
So basically, 1% smaller cars, way less aerodinamics in coner even whit full dowforce configuration, overcomplicated active aero whit great risk for safety and failures whit 2 major case scenario: heavy understeer or cars which decide to become assasins by spin by themself, I also wonder what will happen in tracks like suzuka where you need a lot of engine power while conering what will happend (active aero goes crazy whit way too much multiple configuration that increase chances of failures, or the eletric energy will be completely drained). Then also whit maximum dowforce in the coners and minimum drag in the straghts, the dirty air becomes even more a disavantage! Now if you are behind a car you have at least on the straigths the slipstream, whit this active aero max dirty air in coners 0 slipstream on straigths! Another scenario i immagine cuold lead to mostruos engine management where the "overtakes" are actually overtaking someone whit zero energy gaining 2 second on him like nothing. Super formula disk to become more fast than a f1 and even the f2 cuold risk that. An embarassment for the pinnacle of motorsport. (And they didnt even had an excuse to not return to only ice cars whit sintetic fuel since there is still potential for "road cars development" ,resolve a lot of problems, and the cars pollute NOTHING in comparison of the rest of the circus ! Just the fact that is the first time the car is made aruond the engine and not viceversa say a lot of how this is a completely ideological view!) This cuold end in disaster
They should return to smaller cars with a V8 they can keep the halo but im tired of seeing DRS everytime they are on a straight and the electric systems make the cars predictable
So all the overtaking will be done by pressing a button. Everything will be so artificial!! You can't call it racing!! They are destroying the essence of the sport !! 🥴🥴🥴
The only way I can see them wanting to keep using this garbage tech motor is that the FIA is paying these manufactures a good deal change to keep this farcse of a PU going.....and I hope these cars won't be the tug boats that they are presently.
I absolutely love everything except for the half electric engine. But so glad to hear the cars are no longer going to be single seater limousines. They look ridiculously large on track anymore, and could always use more passing action.
I wish theyd just abandon the hybrid system and go all in on synthetic fuels it would be much better for the environment as electric cars are now dying out and people have finally realised they are not as good for the environment as they hoped theyd be and with all the development being placed in synthetic fuel it would eventually become commonplace in every town and city without having to change much infrastructure and in turn we wouldnt have gimmicky push to pass racing as the cars would be much lighter and actually be able to overtake on turns
@@RBot21 They won't leave. They will race with whatever engine the FIA will mandate. Nobody cares about the hybrid system. It's just sa facade to tell the world that the peak of motorsports care about the environment. Moving the whole circus from one country to another generates more carbon emmission than these 20 cars going in circle non stop for years. Some manufacturer will eventually go EV in the future and we already have FE races for that. What everybody wants are races like in the early 2000's. To overtake with skills and not gimmicks.
What I would change: -Delete hybrid system -Delete power steering -Delete active aero -I5 twin turbo engine -Significantly smaller/lighter chassis/body
I5 ? Youre crazy. Inline 5 are unbalanced (just like V10s but worse) and will definitely struggle to give you the required power while staying reliable.
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I love how they say the “engines” are heavier than ever. No. The engines are smaller and lighter than ever. The batteries are heavier than ever.
You are wrong, the batteries now are the same mass as in 2009 when KERS was first introduced, 25kg. Fuel mass is significantly decreased from 2009, as is drag from radiators. The current PUs are not why the cars are big or heavy, the 2014 car has almost the same dimensions as the 2013 car. The cars are big and heavy because pirelli provides heavy and terrible tires..
@@byanymeansnecessary9329 the ICE plus hybrid systems are heavier then just having ICE. You are wrong. Watch the video he says the engines are heavier then ever. When in fact the ICE is lighter then ever.
That's why a lot of mechanics will never work on electric cars unless it has a engine
@@paulgrey5345The entire engine includes all of the powertrain
It's how you "balance " the explanation 😅
Bring back the v10
If only they could
The best engine ever. I would also love completely free engine regs
@@Firemarioflower completely free engine regs would be missing the point of f1 the very first ruleset was aboput engine regs and has been ever since but it could be interesting
@@priyam352 Well at least more variations in cylinders, atmospheric vs turbo, size would make it better. Every brand and team doing their own specialism to the engine.
@@Firemarioflower yes that would be very interesting to see but hard to implement fairly and has already been tried once i think in like the 70s were na and turbo cars were both allowed it was just unfair
fans: we want screaming v10s
F1 in 2030: full electric it is
And people need to stop shoving evs down our throats and let us drive what we want to drive
Well said, motorsport should be all about performance and LOUD engines 👹👊🏻🔥
Only boomers want V10s
So what's the point? Full electric is formula E
@@westpapua8941 they must obey climate change agenda
"A new engine to add more HP!"
V10's and V8's: Look what they need to do to mimic a fraction of our power
Consworth engines: Who needs power?
Drivers overtaking on straights using buttons to reduce drag and boost power rather than in the corners using skill. Yay! Can't wait to watch that
Tbh its not much differnt nowadays with drs 😅
You just described F1 as it currently is
Sounds like the thing the Indy do in their cars, called push to pass
Except they routinely do battle for positions in the corners in Indy@@luisacuna3078
If you can pass someone in the corner your opponent did a big mistake.
Just happy with V10’s and sustainable fuels
no such thing as sustainable fuels
@@fetB Well there is
@@Taylor___ do tell
@@fetBif it allows ICE for racing (only) it's good. Synthetic "sustainable" fuels are too expensive/difficult to produce in quantity for road use. I'm sure global racing won't cause the glaciers to disappear.
@@alexmanojlovic768 true
Bring back the v10s
Or v12
@@jasmijnariel the v8's are also good... but tbh maybe the cars on v6 would sound better if they would have 22k rpm instead of 10k like the v8-v12 engines
@@Mikoto_Suoh 22k 🤣 this isnt a nitro 0.5cc Cox engine😅
You have any idea what 22k rpm accually is?
@@jasmijnariel you know that the v10s where running on 22k?
@@Mikoto_Suoh In my opinion teams should have an option between V6 and V8 (maybe V10 too), like in WEC.
Manufacturers could work on engine of their chosen type and use developed technologies in road cars.
I think that a lot of car brands will be interested to join in F1
10cm…. Dam so still juggernauts driving around Monaco lol
Since 1950 its hard to overtake in Monaco, lol
@@NikiN1 but when did it became a procession of Q3 tho lol
@@arthur16701970’s-80’s
@@arthur1670since about 2006
They should remain the same width (narrow racing cars look sily, but make the car 50cm shorter!
The cars will be smaller, but still much bigger than what we had prior to 2017. The cars will be lighter, but still heavier than what we had prior to 2022. Instead of simplifying the cars to make the racing more exciting like they tried in 2022, they made a much more complex car with even more DRS gimmicks all to appease manufacturers that are trying to greenwash the public. I don't want to be overly negative before the cars have even hit the track, but this is not sounding promising at all.
We can't go back to 2007 size and weight even if we remove all the gimmick and stuff. Because one thing safety structure. F2 car is basically what F1 car without the gimmick to appease manufacturer and it's still weight almost as an F1 car
Were the 2007 Cars made of antimanium?
Why would they try making the car more simple if that didn’t actually work?
At least they are going in the right direction when it comes to size and weight
At least Monaco might become less shit if they're smaller
I would love to have the V10s or V8s again, with no electric engine. That's the fastest way to reduce the weight of the cars
Small cars with 3.0 l v 10's is what the people want!
This is so silly! Someone is working to the metric of “increase overtaking” which is just plain wrong. The quality of overtakes is nothing anymore. Nothing.
Huh? What??
Correct. It will be an overtaking button with no skill involved. It's so artificial 🥴🥴
@@givemeabreak8784no skill involved? managing energy is a skill
We have an overtaking button already though. First it was KERS back in the 2000, then became the Overtake button. Now it just seems like it’s gonna be way too explosive though… 😭
@funnymankenny you really want to watch 2 hours of pure energy management.
Make F1 Great Again!
F1 is becoming vegan.
Iam vegetarian and I will hate f*cking electric F1 cars, bring back firing V10 !!
@@roca4526 Ok vegan
Not even vegans like electric cars brother 😂
Is it just me or every regulation change the cars start to look like Indy cars
I thought it will get smaller to the same size of the early 2000s' car. 🗿
They can't, safety first
@@2_Sideso you think all those 800kg come from safety?
@@francescomartelli9226 f2 cars don't have all that and are still heavier than the 2008 cars.
@@Pepe-dq2ib yeah, how much?
@@francescomartelli9226 about 40kg lighter than the current f1 cars. The safety requirements are very heavy.
I can already hear the disappointing engine note
they are supposedly louder ande purer sounding because of the removal of the mguh and im pretty sure there also some exhaust regs for the soud
still are turbo, so less loudly sound 😢
Bring back the V-12. Racing is for entertainment.
Tell 'em! It's all about it not about environment 😅
@@fra93ilgrandehah even if it is, we have sustainable 🌱 fuels ⛽️ now. 🤷♂️ so there’s really no excuse for them not to bring back the v10 engine
racing is not for entertainment
@@oren2000 ?
@@oren2000 Okay karen
Will sound like a fridge fan.
Bring back v10s for god sake!!
Yep... You could make that a rule but you'll lose all of the engine suppliers so good luck. They're only interested when it's relevant to road tech otherwise you're investing money for no reason
550 + 470 = 1020 ⚡
Misery and heavy weight
Teams will manage to squeeze much more than that
But they will only be able to use full power for a small amount of time before the battery drains, much of the racing will involve running at a lower power to charge the battery.
@@Yantrus exactly. And in the low speed corners and under braking and acceleration they will still look rather lifeless.
550 HP from the engine....In 1994 the Ferrari V12 was 850hp.
F1 could be so much faster if they weren't held back.
No V10 - no give a damn about new regs. Sick of listening to vacuum cleaners. 😢
Welcome To Formula E… again
Hey at least it still has a combustion engine, if they ever go full electric I ain’t watching no more
@@CJ-uh8bkthey wont
they can't be fully electric untill 2040 at the earliest cus Fornula E has a exclusivity contract that expires in 2039.
but most people still hate the v6's anyway so.
@@jesperhammarlund300 That is some time away
In theory this sounds amazing. Except for the engines, i miss the sounds of F1
so by this trend in 8-10 years will have Formula E
That’s way over dramatic, if you look these are very simlar to the lmp1 regulations from a few years ago.
The earliest F1 can go full electric is 2040, Formula E has the exclusive rights on a FIA full electric racing series till 2039
No one gives a sh1t about these new "power units" we just want v8/10s
Couldn’t agree more!!!!
It all seems so complicated and ridiculous. Fast drivers driving fast cars at the limit. Raw speed. Power. The feeling of the sound reverberating through your body. That’s it that’s what F1 is. The rest is bells and whistles
Why? Why make 50% electrics? Literally serves no purpose outside of virtue signaling the rubbish net zero “goal” which won’t ever be accomplished without fake numbers and lots of sanctimony from the elites that pay for their kids to drive these cars. All the while we yearn for real racing with real engines.
Electric ouput is instant, allows for high torque and insane acceleration, allowing for aggressive overtakes
Omg grow up ..... This is not "virtue signalling", most manufacturers are working towards hybrid engines Lamborghini just made a v12 hybrid ...... The fia doesn't come up these regulations out of their arse they work with manufacturers align the regulations according to what they're are developing, if this doesn't happen then F1 will become a financial hole for these companies
There’s literally no reason to abandon petrol engines, so the reasons you state in your reply (for why it’s important F1 goes this direction) miss the overall point that greater electrification of everyday life will be a net drag on human existence. So, while I don’t disagree with your reasoning visa vie the car industry Formula 1 collaboration, I still stand by my original position that this is a ridiculous path we are on altogether.
I hope we see better racing in 2026, but with heavier cars and the changes that will come from having to figure out what to do with all that “instant torque” and how to deploy it effectively, my glass half empty self wonders if this will be a return to the days of anti-skid and traction control…remember how awesome that was?
and this. this is how we destroy the planet. because we prioritise big noise over the planets existence
@@Megaman231122 batteries are heavy, dirty. No aggressive overtakes if your opponent has literally the same stuff. Leave electric for Formula E, I never heard anyone say "I dream of F1 having smaller engines and more e-power"
Still haven't seen any publication that say fans want electric power.
It’s the future unfortunately. By 2035 there will be no more new cars with combustion engines. F1 is gravitating towards that. One day and in the not too distant future, F1 will be fully electric and replace Formula E. I don’t like it either but it’s the truth.
@wolfgangvan-uber6515 I don't see it as a good or bad thing since EV tech is advancing fairly rapidly.
Who knows what these engines will be able to do in another 10 years
@@wolfgangvan-uber6515 Nonsense. We don't have the infrastructure for it.
@@wolfgangvan-uber6515 Money talks and when people stop watching they will be forced back. Also electric cars are pointless when you have to burn coal to power them and use slave children in africa to mine cobalt.
@@wolfgangvan-uber6515 it's not the future, it's the past. Do you honestly think F1 would allow any sort of meaningful research into sustainable engines while being sponsored by aramco and petronas? It's just marketing
The day F1 goes 100% electric I wont watch a single race again
You sound insecure
@@Baguenaudeur You sound Non-Binary
Same mate!
That will not to happen, because the don't have the licence for it. That was sold till 2040 to Formula E.
No guarantees after 2040.@@Train_Nerd
A 70-80% of combustion engine, would be perfect, with eco-fuel. More RPM, way smaller with lighter electric engine that recharges just from the breakings. They always choose the worst path to follow.
Batteries are not clean, this is not the way to go if they think this will create some planet saving tech. Go for synthetic fuels with V10s, best show ever with carbon footprint way below what could EVs ever dream of
weird then how Formula E has been net zero since Season 1 (2014)
@@jesperhammarlund300Formula E acheives that through offsetting, F1 could just stay exactly as it is and use offsetting and claim to be net zero.
Offsetting isn't real @@Hex___666
I'm looking forward to seeing what Honda does as it enters with this new engine in 2026.
How can you possibly be excited? These are going to be generators on wheels. They can't even use the full 1000hp for even a full lap. Once the batteries is dead. Your only get 500 hp while trying to charge the battery. Not to mention driver will probably be overtaken not due to skill but simply because they have to charge a huge battery and the other driver doesn't.
@benbaker3719 how do u know that is even going to be happen for sure? Let alone frequently
@@accent1666 they can't even keep the battery charged for more than 30 seconds now. Much less when the electric motor is going to be make around 3x the power it currently has. The teams have already talked about. F1 engineers are great but this isn't about F1 anymore it's just green washing.
I'm more expecting Audi
GP2 engine, GP2
So I’m guessing still sound like my electric shaver?
Vettel - Proves that you can have a much smaller, much lighter car with a loud V10 using sustainable carbon neutral fuel.
F1 - 'So, we're making the car 10cm smaller, extremely heavy, an even quieter engine with even more artificial aids.'
These rules feel much more artificial than past rules. I think the engines will be a total flop.
what kind of logic is that?
@@Lianpe98mate, you want a 500hp f1 car thst reaches 1000 for like 12 seconds, and then has to recharge its 50% power output for another lap? The active aero is already seemingly a flop, the drivers are complaining that the car is undriveable. This will be a massive flop, they should have gone for N/A V10 with 100% sustainable fuels
@@croatiaboy11 What are you talking about? It's not gonna be 12 seconds. The drivers have not driven a single 2026 car because they have not built one. Don't take speculation as factual.
@@Lianpe98 mate there were tests done in the simulator of a 2026 regs car and it was so unstable it was said the drivers that drove it had to slow down to the point of being slower than the current f2 cars. Also of course the power output of the battery will not last long, the amount of horspower that can be outputted by it was heightened, but what about the capacity? Nothing was said about it, at least not that I know of.
@@croatiaboy11 those test was fake news
So sick of the V6. Bring back 10's or 8's with sustainable fuels.
So am I I am tired of you
why can't we have v10 hybrids?
V-10 yes,
Electric no!
We could, it’s all about the manufactures and making something that has road relevancy for them. Teams don’t participate strictly or even primarily for the love of the sport, it is a business at the end of the day. Doesn’t matter how much love you have, if it’s too much of a money pit teams will pull out.
Ideally what we would have for the next rules cycle is v8 or v10 engines running on 100% synthetic bio fuel and no hybrid. And cars that are even smaller and much lighter than the next rules cycle. No active aero, drs, and much less aero. But that’s capitalism for you.
@@rockytalkndawoods3057 Why would companies like Ferrari or Mercedes waste time and money developing outdated tech. Doesn t make sense.
They hatefans and love politics
@@HallucinatingHedgehogs Yeah because a 1,000 horsepower 1.6L V6 has so much road relevancy.
Say goodbye to F1 after a hundred years.. leave to this mental generation to destroy everything
why the heck is it 50/50 might as well call it a hybrid between fe and f1
It's still F1 because ICE
@@2_Side 😵😵😵
@@2_Sideit’s a travesty is what it is
@@2_Sidemore like F1/2
It’s almost like its an HYBRID engine
Imagine Red Bull mess up the PU and the design and become back markers
We can only hope
Imagine Ferrari fuck up the PU
Imagine Ferrari fuck up the PU
They actually do have troubles if we can believe the rumours.
They have taken over Honda personell, and a lot of Mercedes engine personell. That's not going to happen.
Bring back the v10 best engines
Bring back the 90'S and 2000'S era V10'S and V12'S
F1 is slowly becoming Formula E...😢
We need the V10 back!😎
I didn't think f1 could get worse, but here we are.
Fr the cars should be bigger, we need less overtaking and less horsepower.
Could you elaborate please?
I personally don't see any logical reason as to why any of these changes would make F1 worse.
The size of the cars has been an issue which made overtaking difficult, so smaller cars should make racing better. The same goes for the weight of the cars.
They're also getting even more power, and especially the electric motors are helpful to give the cars even more torque for faster acceleration. It also shows that the FIA/F1 are taking our environmental issues at least somewhat seriously which will help with public and political support for the sport over the coming years/decades.
I think they did the right thing by reducing the size but making it a 50-50 split between combustion and electric is what I don't like. Obviously ion mind people having different opinions but personally I don't like it. We have formula e for this kind of stuff it's literally made for electric cars we don't need 2 formula e's . U don't see formula e putting a V6 in their cars
@@user-lz3zt8iq4f imagine V8 Turbo Hybrid :0
@@user-lz3zt8iq4f Fun fact: Formula E has some sort of patent on fully electric single seater racing. I'm not sure if there can be a fully electric single seater racing series that isn't affiliated with the FIA, but I do know that Formula 1 isn't allowed to go fully electric even if they wanted to.
I think that 'patent' (I don't know what it's called, so I'll just call it a patent for now) expires in 2035 or something like that, so Formula 1 isn't forced to stay in the past forever, but Formula 1 is still stuck with the combustion engines for a while. So you don't have to worry about it just yet :)
each season formula 1 is closer to its end. Why are they turning electric if theres already Formula E (which sucks by the way)?
TBH formula E is way interesting to watch, different race winners and no domination bullshit
To quote the great visionary Sainz: "Stop Inventing"
It's not hard is it. N/A V10/V8 biofuel engine, light, small cars. Job done.
No more Ford, Audi, Honda then
It is hard, thats why they hire experts for this stuff 💀
@@2_Side Why do they care if it's a V6 or a V8? They don't really use either of these layouts anymore anyway...
@@2_Sidethey can go to hell then if they want to kill titally what f1 is
Id love to hear those V8's again
I hate this. Just let them use a V10 and get rid of the electric crap. Make them waaay smaller.
The size difference is not only thanks to the engines, it's also because of the safety changes that were made in the last 2 decades. But I'd also rather have v10s back on the menu.
I'm still wondering why did the fia create the lmp1 and hypercar category for hybrid power train development in endurance racing. Which actually benefits from hybrid. Only to make f1 hybrid too with tech that no road car will ever implement
Even the mid 80’s V6 turbos sounded better than this modern shite
V8s with eco-friendly sustainable fuels would be amazing.
Better keep shrinking those cars if you’re dead set on going to more and more street circuits
50% battery power, gas engine may as well just be a generator.
The 2030 cars won't directly connect the gas engine to the transmission, as it will just be a generator for Electric engines.
By 2030 we'll all be living in AWS sponsored smart coffins
I hope so, it's more efficient, though I'd rather just ditch the ICE.
@@ChrispyNutThen go watch Formula E.
Batteries are heavy and have a fraction of the energy density as gasoline.
We want light cars, until we can make an F1 EV last 2 hours at full throttle AND weigh less than 800kg, we aren't ready. Even 800kg is too much, we realistically want these cars to weigh 600kg like the golden Schumacher years.
470hp generator? don't be ridiculous
@@Lianpe98 Uh, you may wanna look into what a generator is, cos clearly, you're currently misinformed!
No wonder people lose interest in F1. They wasted on rules rather than racing .cars are just markert karts ,😢
You know what else would make them lighter? Dropping the whole hybrid nonsense and having a naturally aspirated engine.
Like the manual override changes here. Give the drivers all the agency you csn in battles
F1 or the FIA have no idea what they’re doing - at all. They bring in these complex ass engines that cost about a billion to build from scratch then they’re like nah that was a bad idea let’s do this differently. Then they get rid of arguably the best cars we’ve had in recent years to end Mercedes dominance but now we just have redbull dominance. The cars were supposed to be better for competition yet, there is only one team winning and generally one point to be spared between the lower 5 teams. These changes have been horrendous and have seen slower racing in general. What a bunch of idiots.
THANK YOU FINALLY!
it's always like this with these ruling bodies and their monopolised grasp on sports. They keep making up retarded regulations and make everything worse
@@kevinkevin6542 it’s crazy that it’s been 3 of these new regs and a 2020 williams was faster on most tracks than most of these new cars 😅
Yep, it doesnt really seem that both fia and fom arent thinking things right
@@IAmLeutrimTopalli hoaxes
F1 the supposedly “pinnacle” of motorsports where you can’t drive too fast or else you’ll destroy your engine. You can’t drive too hard or else you’ll destroy your tires. You can’t drive too close to catch up the car you’re chasing in front of you because of dirty air, what a joke.
50/50 split
Might as well call it formula e
really now? ¯\_ಠ_ಠ_/¯
No because it s not Formula E. Get real....
@@jonpetter8921 "GeT reAL"
That's what you sound like.
formula e/2
@@gamechip06 So he sounds like his caps lock keys on the blink?
You think they will be lighter with a huge battery pack??? Really?
If RB is not the main reason for Newey’s possible retirement. This regulation will be. Judging from the past regulations on how FIA always failed on their original intentions, 2026 PU and active aero will become ridiculously expensive to develop whilst having a chassis that’s heavier than a tractor. Racing will become so artificial that the skills of drivers aren’t needed anymore. Unless the FIA hires Newey to solve the current problems of the regulation, I can’t see any benefits from it
Couldn't agree more. I will most likely stop watching the sport. Imagine your favorite driver being passed just because he ran out of battery this lap and the other guy is fully charged. Not to mention they are neutering the ICE so they can make this 50/50 split. They can't even use full power for a full lap What joke this regulation period will be
V8: Haha! And how do you intend to Overpower us?
V6: Oh no, I can’t overpower you. But my buddy can! Say hi buddy!
V10: HÍÌĪ. 😈
V10 Leader: What do we want?!
Fans: V10!!!
V10 Leader: When do we want it?!
Fans: NOW!!!
Everyone forgets that f1 is about innovation, almost all modern car technology came from f1 at a point. It’s where manufacturers are able to put r&d to develop features or technology or better understand aero or electric components that tbey can then put into a production car, look at active suspension, look at traction control, yeah some of the recent innovations suck but sadly we’re moving away from ice engines and there’s nothing we can do about it
Why not drive hydrogen v8s or inline engines like well still have good sounds while still giving clean air as exhaust
@@ChristopherPortorreal-ol2mj I think it’s cuz hydrogen wasn’t really widely adopted and not many companies make any hydrogen powered engines currenlty, not to mention high performance ones they can take parts of to make an f1 engine or vice versa, evs are where the world is going but I don’t think it’s viable for anything but racing at the moment, batteries don’t last nearly long enough to justify the cost and pollution we put in the ground when they get trashed. Hydrogen or natural gas would be nice options, I feel like if Porsche gets involved they might even try to use their eco friendly fuel they started developing but I think that’s still 10 or 50$ a gallon it was absurd j can’t remember what tho
@@elijah2712 Porsche even refuses to make the iconic 911 electric and the CEO of Ford decides to not end the V8. Heck Toyota even developed a hydrogen combustion engine for their Corolla and I believe eco friendly fuel and natural gas or even hydrogen will stop making these people stop shoving evs down our throats
@@ChristopherPortorreal-ol2mj hydrogen is complicated and expensive
There is a Hydrogen race engine ready to be deployed an Austrian company has developed it . 600 HP
im slowly starting to prefer f2
I have a big problem with the engine regs, and thats cuz Formula E already exists
“The cars should be lighter”
Engineers: *makes the cars even heavier than before*
Less grip, wire from right foot to engine, steel brakes, narrower front wing, no drs is the recipe for better racing.
That's why audi's new F1 car is smaller in length compared to other er F1 cars. 🤔🤔
This is still not yet confirmed. The power of engine is too low, while there is no energy, the car will be so slow as the power of electric is not consistent, even slower than today's f2 car
Wish they'd go for a formula with more drag and downforce instead. The ICE end power is perfect for good slipstream in 2026, should help to compensate the dirt air. But they are trying to reduce drag while trying to create passing... just take a look at past 20 years, you had lots of downforce and dirt air, but too much power so the cars could never close in fast enough. Then right now you have less slipstream while dirt air is just as bad as it was before current rules, and they still have too much power so slipstream is terrible and even DRS is not as effective
thats basically what we had in 2021
@@Gamurboi Nope. 2021 and before still had the issue of too much end power. Too much power means the car ahead can deal well with drag, the faster it goes the worse it is for slipstream (well unless you are in a superspeedway oval, but that's another topic).
Just watch any battle pre DRS, specially when F1 had proper tires. Alonso x Schumacher epic chase in Imola 2005 is a great example. They are close all the time but Schumacher never had enough slipstream because with that much Power it meant Alonso also had decent final speeds.
If you want more overtakes you need more acceleration and lower top speeds (this is where hybrids are great). Mix that with high drag and things will work, the car ahead will have a hard time with drag, the one behind will have a hole open in the air for it.
Or just add a hanford device to F1 lol that activates only on straights, inverse DRS 😅but since it's for road courses it'd have to be pretty big compared to the version they used in CART back in the late 90s~early 00s
So 2001 rare overtaking?
@@Lianpe98 if you cant read, yeah
So basically, 1% smaller cars, way less aerodinamics in coner even whit full dowforce configuration, overcomplicated active aero whit great risk for safety and failures whit 2 major case scenario: heavy understeer or cars which decide to become assasins by spin by themself,
I also wonder what will happen in tracks like suzuka where you need a lot of engine power while conering what will happend (active aero goes crazy whit way too much multiple configuration that increase chances of failures, or the eletric energy will be completely drained).
Then also whit maximum dowforce in the coners and minimum drag in the straghts, the dirty air becomes even more a disavantage! Now if you are behind a car you have at least on the straigths the slipstream, whit this active aero max dirty air in coners 0 slipstream on straigths!
Another scenario i immagine cuold lead to mostruos engine management where the "overtakes" are actually overtaking someone whit zero energy gaining 2 second on him like nothing.
Super formula disk to become more fast than a f1 and even the f2 cuold risk that.
An embarassment for the pinnacle of motorsport.
(And they didnt even had an excuse to not return to only ice cars whit sintetic fuel since there is still potential for "road cars development" ,resolve a lot of problems, and the cars pollute NOTHING in comparison of the rest of the circus ! Just the fact that is the first time the car is made aruond the engine and not viceversa say a lot of how this is a completely ideological view!)
This cuold end in disaster
They should return to smaller cars with a V8 they can keep the halo but im tired of seeing DRS everytime they are on a straight and the electric systems make the cars predictable
Atleast they made them smaller and listened to all the drivers
So all the overtaking will be done by pressing a button. Everything will be so artificial!! You can't call it racing!! They are destroying the essence of the sport !! 🥴🥴🥴
Just wait 'til they go to spec chassis! Coming soon to a track near you.
@@michaeldelaney7271 Probably will be a merger with the Indycar . Everything is possible with the Liberty Media in charge.
The only way I can see them wanting to keep using this garbage tech motor is that the FIA is paying these manufactures a good deal change to keep this farcse of a PU going.....and I hope these cars won't be the tug boats that they are presently.
so all the overtakes from now on are gonna be on the straight line, hopefully liberty media don't ruin moto gp too
Racing is not eco friendly. They ship these cars all over the world. Bring back v10's
Говно. Верните атмосферные V8 без гибридной составляющей.
today 50/50 tomrrow 100% eletric fvck FIA
Formula E already exists
I absolutely love everything except for the half electric engine. But so glad to hear the cars are no longer going to be single seater limousines. They look ridiculously large on track anymore, and could always use more passing action.
"Override" sounds like the "Attack mode" of the Formula E.
Still to big
It's better than nothing
Slow progress is better than no progress
Long story short, they will sound even more crappy
Imagine if they brought back DAS lol wasn’t insane but would be great to have back and along with that you can warm the tires faster
DRS in the front will be a nice change
That's why Adrian Newey is walking away.
If anything, this is why he stays in F1
Your opinion
Can't wait the chassis in June 🙌
Will be the chasis presented in June?
@@Meikey040 yep, at the end of June or July (like 2022 car release date)
Wait this june ? But there is still a whole year before 2026 ?
Give us V10 engines running on ethanol, and maybe I'll start watching F1 again.
Less drs means less wins for rb, isn't it?
meanwhile WEC will get bigger and better and offer pure racing for fans
BoP racing was fake
This is not F1 racing. Who the hell asked for a 50/50 split ? Bring back the V10's even V8's
If they keep like that, in some years F1 will become FE
And formula 1 will cease to exist because they wanted to stop engines and slow the car down significantly
So, soon AI will be driving the cars and we will be rooting for the programmer.
Ridiculous
At this point just let robot drive it
Nahhhhhh… have you SEEN that AR2L shit? It’s even less exciting than the W Series was
@@brad30threeyeah rn just wait a year or 2
You might be suffering from a slight case of overreaction there. Atleast for the next decade and most likely longer.
You might be suffering from a slight case of overreaction there. Atleast for the next decade and most likely longer.
@@H4rd5tyl3 I don’t get it. I might be overreacting for the next decade or so?
Yawn
they need less electrical power not more. bring back the V8 engines and make the batteries smaller
i dont like the idea of decreasing the drag, if it means downforce suffers too.
I wish theyd just abandon the hybrid system and go all in on synthetic fuels it would be much better for the environment as electric cars are now dying out and people have finally realised they are not as good for the environment as they hoped theyd be and with all the development being placed in synthetic fuel it would eventually become commonplace in every town and city without having to change much infrastructure and in turn we wouldnt have gimmicky push to pass racing as the cars would be much lighter and actually be able to overtake on turns
Manufacturers left then
Seb come back to F1
@@RBot21 They won't leave. They will race with whatever engine the FIA will mandate. Nobody cares about the hybrid system. It's just sa facade to tell the world that the peak of motorsports care about the environment. Moving the whole circus from one country to another generates more carbon emmission than these 20 cars going in circle non stop for years. Some manufacturer will eventually go EV in the future and we already have FE races for that. What everybody wants are races like in the early 2000's. To overtake with skills and not gimmicks.
What I would change:
-Delete hybrid system
-Delete power steering
-Delete active aero
-I5 twin turbo engine
-Significantly smaller/lighter chassis/body
If you want this, just watch Indy.
Just watch indycar bro
Indycar has v6 and is a spec series, not the same
@@Lianpe98 Why would companies like Ferrari or Mercedes waste time and money developing outdated tech. Doesn t make sense.
I5 ? Youre crazy. Inline 5 are unbalanced (just like V10s but worse) and will definitely struggle to give you the required power while staying reliable.
Get rid of the batteries
Soon, it’ll be formula E cars with scooter engines. That doesn’t count as fully electric after all.