Which Is Better? Dips Versus Push Ups
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- So Which Is Better? Dips Versus Push Ups? Many people looking for a push exercise or a chest shoulders and triceps wonder which they should do, which should they focus on, the push up or the dip. In this video and first of a series of videos, I will go through point by point scenario by scenario which is better for you, should you pick the push up or the dip. The dip and push up are both pushing exercises that work the chest, shoulder and tricep muscles. They are both a key calisthenics exercise that is a stepping stone to other calisthenics exercises like the muscle up or planche push up. One is a horizontal pushing movement while the other is a kind of vertical pushing movement but as a whole they pretty much do the same thing. This kind of video is helpful for beginners to calisthenics so they can see if the push up is for beginners or if the dip is good for beginners.
Even though they are similar in many ways, there are points or situations where one will be better than the other. At the end of the video you will be able to decide which better for you between the push up and the dip
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0:00 Which is better, Dips or Push ups
1:37 What's the Goal -Strength , Hypertrophy
2:51 Best For Certain Muscle Growth
3:22 Best for Movement Training
4:11 Which is Easier to learn , Safer to Execute
5:57 Which is Best for Beginners
7:15 Which is Best for Advanced Trainees
8:37 What equipment do you Need
9:22 Which is Better Dips versus Push Ups
I've been doing nothing but dips and chins for three years, with excellent results. I'm lazy, and I'm the kind of guy who gets into a gym for six months to lift tons of weights and suddenly gives up. I knew that i had to create a habit, like brushing my teeth, to be consistent and see results.
So I focused on my upper body and on two exercises: dips and chins. I do dips with an old granny walker and chins with a cheap doorframe bar. I usually did only one exercise a day, for four sets, alternating between dips and chins. Although sometimes I just did the two exercises on the same day, 3x a week.
Now I'm committed to doing "something more" for a more rounded routine, so I added Arnold presses for my shoulders with a pair of dumbbells and bodyweight squats because I realized I had legs ;-)
Really, I feel that this ultra-simple-minimalist routine is all I need to be reasonably fit and look good at 52.
Simple trumps optimal. Good enough is often better than perfect.
Keep-it-simple. Consistency is the key. For everything.
Yes it’s very easy for people and a lot of channels focus too much on “optimal “
Or “maximum muscle growth” forgetting we are not all professional athletes or pro bodybuilders. I want a program that allows me to be fit and stronger than can fit into my lifestyle and not something I have to fit my life around it. I’m a huge man of minimalist training and have been for many years but when I talk about it most people will reply with “
Is that all you do” and struggle with the idea that less is more especially for natural people with normal lives
I use crutches to dip. You quickly adapt to balance on them. Works great.
I think 2 things can be true. Ultimately something is better than nothing and consistency is what brings results. But also minimalist training leaves a lot of gaps in one's training. depending on what the focus is you might be lacking in the mobility and injury prevention front, torso dominance because there's not enough arm volume or underdeveloped legs coz all the focus is on the upper body.
For me i think dips are the rawest form of upper body pressing strength alongside the OHP simply because it removes any lower body stabilisation and works every single upper body muscle, plus its super easy to load.
Yes both are great exercises, massive fan of the ohp too , any program with these exercises in will bring great gains for you, thanks for watching
I’m going to say push-ups. There are so many variations of it and I think it seems to be an exercise that’s easily done injury free, consistently, across all age groups, again using the variation that your body can tolerate. If you get real strong on push-ups, there’s a lot of carryover to dips if you decide to try some too for variety.
Completely agree Tim and I've just seen your second comment and I'm glad the video was able to cover your points you brought up.
There's guys who are in prison that are getting jacked solely off pushups alone so I think pushups are better especially since you can do various different types of pushups that work different type of muscles 💪🏼
Great video. As always, very informative and to the point! :)
Thanks buddy appreciate that
Undeniably awesome info. Looking forward for more!
Thank you, glad you enjoyed the video and welcome to the channel
After watching the video, my opinion stands. You cited most of the thoughts I had on both exercise. Good video 👍🏼
Thanks for watching Tim, Glad you share my opinions as we both can't be wrong ? can we?😂 but yea i hope people watching can make a better informed decision to which is best for them
That’s a great video. Really good instruction. Thanks for sharing it.
Thanks for watching
This confirms my experience. I’ve done press-ups for some time and increased my strength with no issues. Then as soon as I started dips I got a shoulder muscle injury within a week. Maybe my fault for not starting with assisted dips. But I also find the exercise awkward to perform and I think it’s easy to make a mistake and pick up another injury. So no more dips for me. Now I just do push-ups , inverted rows, pull ups, squats, abs, on a Push Pull Legs schedule 6 days per week.
solid workout and exercise selection. Pick exercises that what for you, the core of this series was to highlight that it isn't black on white on exercises and the important thing is to pick what is best for you in your current situation. sorry for the late reply. appreciate your time in commenting
I prefer dips. Push ups are great but once you get past being able to do a couple hundred in a week you plateau pretty quick with that exercise.
Have you ever got into weighted or rings push ups or more progressive versions? Yes the dip straight away is a harder exercise for for stronger people with the standard version of each will find the dip harder
Push ups when I’m serious and want to play with variations, rings etc.
Dips are simpler and great for quick workout or intense set with some weight. So it depends on the mood. When I’m feeling under the weather it’s easier for me to do bench press and dips than to play around with push ups. I still would use them as warm up instead of light bar or dips.
That's a fair opinion and i get what you mean> Dips just being harder mean its a simpler way to get in an effective workout with the push up, yes has more variations , means more effort to make it harder to the level of dips. The great thing about them are they are both accessible and easy to even superset together or like you said, use the push up to warm up for the dip and in the old days the push up would be a burn out for weighted dips.
I would say dips because they require more technique and are harder since you lift 100% of your body weight. Great exercise. Push ups are really easy to do if you are light around 70-80 kg this less effective.
Great video! A standard dip is harder than a standard push up because it requires more strength lifting full body weight, so logically there would be more gain with dips. As you say though, more difficult for beginners or if you are more prone to injury or niggles with dips.
Interestingly, the best way I have found to overload the dips WITHOUT extra weight is to fatigue the "push" muscles with 30 seconds of press ups, then within 10 seconds start say 30 seconds worth of dips. They are then much harder and those muscles are effectively overloaded. Take a minutes rest and repeat 3 or 4 times, after each combo taking a minutes rest. Really tough. I am stiff everytime!
Good vid Lee 💪
Thanks David, What's your favourite between the two?
Top stuff as always.. 👍. As you know I can't train at the moment.. But asking doctors if OK to use light resistance bands. I've done a small route I'm going show him my idea. And hope I get the go head to start it. I was watching matt's live stream yesterday and I ask his advice about eating do to boredom as I don't want to overeat.. He said about the apple test. Witch I like.
Thanks Wolfy, yes I saw your post and I hope you get the all clear and can start to use exercise to help you to recover. Oh really, I missed it, whats the apple test?
I do dips on crutches, m,ore challenging for all the stabiliser muscles. Quickly adapt tho. I had the crutches for a back injury but now they’re part of my home gym
That’s awesome plus you can set the width to how you want, those stabiliser gains 💪
I do both. weighted dips for 5x5 as a main lift and push-ups as an accessory exercise in the 8-12 range on my OHP day.
Well you will be covering both bases and making full use of both which is awesome
I alternate everyday
Pullups/Rows
Dips/Pushups
Squats/Lunged
Leg Raises/Back Bridges
sounds a solid program buddy
I remember i had a shoulder injury from dips and did lots of incline pushups to recover i think after doing so many it managed to make my shoulders stronger cus i never got shoulder pain from dips again but it all depends on goals dips will give u a bigger set of back arms i feel pushups will give u an all around good excersize dips doint hit your core like pushups do and with pushups u can do more reps leading to greater metabolic response for fat loss
welcome to the channel and thanks for sharing. Any idea what caused the injury while doing the dips? i think for some reasons push ups seem to help the shoulders, they are such a great exercise and allow you to build up the strength in a controlled manner
@@LeeDowningKeat yeah what caused the injury was sloppy, fast reps. Ive always been into training fast and full range of motion instead of slowing tempo down or slowing down on the negatives i feel like it gives you explosive power so i definitely like training at higher intensity i think it was just a combination of not resting bad form and pushing out sloppy reps towards the end of my workouts. Im 6ft 220 lb and i just do basic around the world sets and reps. Also people always say calisthenics is better cus it doesnt injure you but its different for the heavyweights out there after all when i do dips i am pressing 220lbs. I think all the volume just caught up to my shoulder not to mention dips are really hard on the shoulders in general. Especially if the dip bar is too wide a narrower dip bar will stop shoulder pain from experience.
@@fuckthepolitics3233 I feel you buddy I’m on the heavier side and the lighter you are the easier Calisthenics is and don’t think people appreciate that sometimes so understand your position. Copy of tips for that , you are right and there is benefit to going faster as it’s activates the fast twitch fibres plus it feels good to be explosive doesn’t it. One thing I do is be explosive on the concentric and just go slower on the way down, not to slow that it wiped out my energy and strength but controlled. The other tips is I agree with you again , dips on fixed bars can be shitty for getting a good width just right for you, so try doing them on rings that will allow you to get a width just right for you and will actually make you even stronger. I’m sure you knew all this already but if you didn’t I hope that helps. Thanks for your reply 💪
Push ups for me. So many variations you can go to & not as much of an injury risk than dips. I still do dips regularly & feel there are essential for learning certain bar calisthenic exercises.
Solid point of view and Agree with you. Yes certain exercises need that dip strength and experience. What's your favourite push ups variation?
I find mixing both to be the best. Pushups feel better but dips make you feel more manly
Thank you for your video, now I know push ups are better for me.
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Push up can be done anytime and anywhere, also safer for joints. However, dips are more challenging and more friendly to advance trainees. Btw I dont know yet if push up can increase the width of the chest without the help of dips? TYIA for feedback Sir
Both great exercises but think there are more progressions and regressions with push ups.you will likely get best of both worlds by using both 💪
I enjoy dips a lot more than pushups. I'm a fan of tricep development, and dips are one of the best exercises for this. That being said, I do more pushups than dips. It just helps me activate certain muscles on their respective days. Pushups and dips are part of arms day. Pushups are part of chest and shoulder day.
Push ups and dips will build your triceps and make your arms big. Combining the two will in many cases be the best of both worlds and finding a way to make each exercise work for you. They are only tools so we need to use them for the right job and it sounds like you have buddy so that’s awesome. Thanks for watching
Correct if im wrong, im just trying to see if it makes sense. But like, both dips and push ups hit mainly the triceps, chest and shoulders right? But the Dip is by definition harder, because you lift more bodyweight unlike the push-ups where you have already your feet on the ground (ofc has its variations, like deficit pushup, inclined/declined etc..). So that said wouldn't the regular Dip build more overall muscle than the regular push-up just by definition ?
Hey thanks for your question and I’ll try my best to answer it. There are many ways to build muscle and the dip being harder may mean the intensity maybe harder and that’s one way to build muscle but not the only way. The other thing is that some people cannot do a dip but can do a push up so the push would be better at building muscle. The point of the video is that there isn’t a universal “ best exercise” for everyone. As said in the video and what you said the dip is a harder chest exercise to the push up like you said because you are lifting more of your body weight so you are right there. But with the push up there are variations so why restrict to the regular push up when the variations maybe better .
I use to get that weird pain you call “sternum pain” while doing dips but it suddenly vanished the more I did them so I’m not sure if it’s dangerous or not to continue
In many cases it can be a bad thing and one to talk to a physio about. The pain is sending us a message that we need to address so the point is more directed at the idea of just pushing through the pain and ignoring those signals. the pain called mean many things and its always best to take a step back and learn why, being injured is the worst thing for progression
Push ups over dips for me. With a 20lb weight vest. Do them with your legs raised to make it even more difficult. hits you're upper chest and shoulders and arms even harder. I've done heavy weighted dips with multiple 45s. but for general training and picking one for life. The push up is king.
Both great to do a minimalist push workout.
Love weighted? DIPS.
Love bodyweight and freedom of equipements -> PUSH UP.
Love both? BOTH.
Do what you love to enjoy the journey
Precisely, Botha are great and find one that you enjoy and are motivated to do
dips have given me the best bang for the buck, gains wise. I like push ups too, the different variations are great when you fancy a challenge.
As with most of these videos, the best will be doing both or switching between them. They are both great exercises but for subtle reasons one you might prefer or make better gains. Thanks for watching and subscribe for more
If hand-stand push-ups are a thing, then dips. If they aren't, then push-ups. All depends on where you are in your ability to in my eyes. So push-ups definitely more versatile than dips, not to mention no equipment needed, except the floor or wall. Push-ups definitely a go-to exercise over dips! =)
Yeah, same! There are just way too many variations to the exercise that requires nothing more than you and a wall/floor.
On a side note, I finally bought rings! OMG I should have bought these earlier!! Even just for starting out, because of well you engage muscles when your arm is free to move. I couldn't believe how much more activation there was, even though I need to build up my stabilizers more now =P
Rings are awesome and will make the common exercises you are used to do so much harder but in the long run you will be stronger. Plus they open the door to variations much more, making them easier or harder. I agree with most of what you say but I cant say the rest as they will come up in a future comparison video 😃
@@LeeDowningKeat hehe I guess we'll just have to keep watching ;)
I hope so 😂
I’d like to see a video on stretching, like how to become more flexible since I can’t touch my toes :o
I wouldnt be the best for that as i can't touch my toes either, weirdly enough none of my 4 brothers can either. makes some exercises harder to do so you are not alone there. channels like the bodyweight warrior would be best there ( tom merrick)
@@LeeDowningKeat we should do some yoga 😅😅😂
I think we do buddy, I have books and blocks and a matt, just not motivated to do it😃
I say dips are just a harder version of push ups, because your pushing your complete bodyweight. So you if you're new to workoing out, you should start with push ups and after a while ,when you get stronger and built enough muscles, you can start training dips for more muscle mass and strength
That’s a sensible approach and tends to be the standard, your right in it’s a harder version and if you want to get bigger and stronger and find the push too easy now the dip is a great approach. The thing is there are ways to make the push up harder and many people think of the push up as something only a beginner should be using. Even strong people can benefit from the push up
I would say Push ups for beginners, dips for intermediate - advanced 💪
I would have to go with dips cuz they make you lift your whole body weight and plus with doing dips helps your bench press ☑️
dips are a good shout, great exercise
@@LeeDowningKeat that’s what got me doing 335 bench press 🤲🏿😎💯💵
Sorry I lack the equipment to do a push-up rn, I’m free falling from space and just got 5G
Personally, I feel dips a lot more in my chest than push ups.
Use what you prefer and what gives you the best results
@@LeeDowningKeat About the best advice one can give really.
I swear I feel it in my shoulders more than anything , I also lean forward a bit but my shoulders are always more sore than my chest.
My question was whether dips or pushups are better for chest development. My issue is that my triceps are so strong I can't feel either exercise in my chest.
Push ups are hard on my wrists, dips are fine. Obviously you can do push ups without equipment, but if you have equipment available then to me dips is preferable.
Use what is best for you and with what's available, they are both valuable exercises. Thanks for watching and commenting and subscribe for more
I feel like the dip would be better because it’s harder/ will see what I think at end.
Did your opinion change? Yes that is a common opinion and from a base level you are right and it is harder as you are lifting your whole body weight.
I can do ten clean dips , but my push-up max is about 35.
Dips are much tougher
Which exercise do you prefer to do ?
I’m going for dips it’s the upper body squat 💯💵
Yes I’ve heard it could that as well. You prefer on bars or rings?
Dips. Because if you can do dips, you can do them both. I avoided dips for ages out of fear. Then I skipped bar dips and went straight to ring dips. My shoulders have never felt stronger. Any niggles have gone. I'm even adding weight to them.
Ring dips are great, just having them ability to move and pick your width is great for your joints
You can’t say that word, dude.
Dips are better then pushups they form the Triceps more and also you get better gains from doing dips
do you only do dips or do both?
@@LeeDowningKeat do both g trust you will get nice lee
Gains
do 10 sets of dips each work out session then do the pushups js bro
What about my Atlantic goals?
Hey buddy thanks for watching and commenting
Sorry what are Atlantic goals?
My favorites is dips and variations.🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷💪💪💪
You can’t go wrong with dips. Great for chest shoulders and triceps
Before: push up
Dips for me
Good exercise and for me prefer on the rings, feel better. Good exercise for strength and size
I just do 50 ring dips 50 dips and 50 pull ups 4 times a week
why 50 ring and 50 bar dips?
@@LeeDowningKeat bcause am to weak to do 100 ring dips 😂
hahah fair enough , that makes sense, Just make sure you add in more back reps too or you will have an imbalance, 100 pushing and only 50 pulling
Dips are king
dips are strong
Dips! I been doing burpees with push-ups and now have left shoulder pain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I stopped doing push ups.