Why grown men run to the internet when you have a problem with another man, and you know where he lives and or can call him on the phone and discuss the situation?
Would have been nice to hear Derek mention not throwing the ball so high next time which lead the wr directly into being hurt. Who cares what a player NOT playing says
It’s football it’s goin to happen Tom sacrificed Gronk knees comin over the middle he was just to big to hit high 😂😂😂it’s football you gotta go thru the middle to open up the field it’s a bang bang play it’s goin to happen
@@flyingspacerock8968I watched Brady get gronk, edleman and welker, among others demolished, many times. The majority of those times were in an era where player safety was an afterthought. Olave has several other concussions that have nothing to do with Carr. I've seen Carr's o lines get his leg broken, and force him to get surgery on his back. Dude has never once pointed the finger at his teammates. It's football, injuries are INEVITABLE.
But he isnt right about anything goofy. But get it, you’re going to support your kind no matter what. No matter how intellectually disabled and psycho they are 😂
@@eatmakock3646imagine being worked up about Derek Carr. I’ve literally never even given him a second thought. I literally forgot his first name as I was typing this.
Bingo. U got slow dudes here not getting it. These same dudes never played any level of competitive football yet acting like they're qualified to talk 😂
Even Dan clearly pointed out that it was bad throw by Derek Carr anyway and Shannon agreed. So if Dan and Shannon know it's a bad throw from the highlight, I'm pretty sure Michael Thomas also knew it was a bad throw that put Olave in danger.
@@MultiBlack17 theres a diffence though of a hospital ball that sets the wr up to get blasted and a bad throw. Hes fine from that throw or he catches and gets blasted, we say thats a bad throw or hospital ball
@@danielcavanagh6411 It was a terrible throw, which led to him going to the hospital. Carr stinks is the moral of the story, he had all the time in the world in the pocket and still made that garbage throw.
True, but maturity also matters, and Thomas just showed his maturity level and has now kept himself off any NFL teams. He got paid a couple of years ago, and let it get to his head. Every single QB to ever play the game has thrown a bad ball (hospital ball) that got his WR hurt...even Brady...even Manning...even Montana...etc. Does that mean that they aren't "real QBs"? No, it simply means that everyone messes up. Difference is, Thomas acted like a baby about it when he's not even in the NFL anymore, and the other QBs I mentioned had WRs that said "It's part of the game. It's not my QBs fault". Fact is, Thomas got his manpon wedged up his glory hole because he's not good enough to play anymore.
Every center-field ball is a hospital ball. I think it's a very common play in the NFL. I see these kinds of plays every week, every game. Brady, Mahomes, Rodgers, Allen, Lamar… all the QBs in history make this play. It’s all about separation and the QB's read-two conditions that weren't met here. Poor dude!
Maybe if Derek Carr can't throw the ball in the middle of the field then the OC shouldn't call plays down the middle of the field you talk like DCs the one in huddle telling Chris go right in the middle of the field we're everyone can hit you 😂of course hes not
That’s the type of throw Brady was ranting about a little while ago saying something of the effect these QBs are throwing their receivers into injuries
Facts, and MT didn't really say anything until that Tursday Night game vs the Jags when DC called out Olave on national TV. It was then MT and Shaheed stood up for Olave and said DC threw to the wrong guy. Their claim was backed up by Chase Daniels and Drew Brees when on that play 3rd and 7 MT was open for 12 yds, Shaheed was open for a potential 5yds gain and Hill was open for a 15+ yds due to teh route Olave was running was a clear-out rount so Olave was not the primary, MT was Hill 2nd Shaheed and if it was a blown coverage perhaps Olave but as the Jags player said Olave wasn't open and he should know because he had underneath while Hill was running open in the area he had left.
THEY IGNORED THOSE FACTS THOU AND STICK TO KISSING 🍑 .. ITS CRAZY HOW A GUY CAN BE RECOGNIZED AS A TRUE PROFESSIONAL UNTIL HE DISAGREES WITH A WHITE JESUS LOVING QB ! ALL THE YEARS MIKE PUT UP NUMBERS AND PRODUCED WHEN ALL 11 PLAYERS ON DEFENSE KNEW HE WAS GETTING THE BALL , NEVER COMPLAINED ! PPL ARE QUICK TO FORGET HOW THEY PRAISED MIKE WHEN DREW COULDNT PUSH THE BALL PASS 20yards. WHY CANT WE ALL UNDERSTAND THE FACTS.. DENNIS ALLEN IS A LOOSER ! HENCE HIM BEING FIRED “AGAIN” ! DEREK CAR IS A LOSER . HENCE HIM GOING 2-7 WITH 90% OF A PLAYOFF TEAM, ALSO HIM BEING PAID 100PLUS million , TO NOT PLAY FOR THE RAIDERS ! WINNERS NEVER ACCEPT LEADERSHIP FROM LOSERS, THATS THE FACT !
waaaa bruh go back and watch,it was a illegal hit.dude went for a head shot weather it was a moon ball or not,you cant hit ppl in the head.stop blaming carr
Ok even if everything u say is true y’all are acting like this guy is a demon & just wanted to purposely get Chris hurt smh I don’t even understand the point here, he threw a bad ball that end up in a bad hit ok cool now what? He’s a bad human lol? It happens it’s football. Do we try and tear the boxer down & blame him cause he boxed so well his opponent died from trauma to the head? No so why we trying to do that with carr
Derek Carr may have threw the ball, but the defender made the hit. That aint his fault, he was trying to make a play. Concussions are apart of the game, these players know what they sign up for.
@@thenewjord50 I play linebacker and safety you running full speed you can’t just stop yourself that’s why a lot these time these QBs be trying to slides and it’s hard for a defender not to hit them cause QBs be underestimated how fast these defensive players are
@@Wedat24 I agree it's hard to stop when you going that fast it's usually a bang bang hit especially when you not intentionally trying to legitimately hurt the qb or other offensive players
From my understanding, that's really only an issue with lung injuries; of course I wouldn't be wanting to hop on a plane after getting put to sleep either, but old matey had to get home somehow.
Airplanes aren’t high pressure. They are pressurized to 8,000 ft Which is LOW pressure. It would be up to the Doctor to decide if he was capable of flying home.
Never understood that. Slants was the least amount of routes he ran. Ya don't understand a ten and or 15 and in . Understand west coast offense. With breed being small he need the big targets passing in front
Mt ran more crossing routes than anything and of course he had to run those underneath routes because while I love Drew Brees it was no secret that Drew couldn't throw the ball more than 15yds down the field at the end of his tenure.
Bruh this is an everyday FOOTBALL play .. Qbs throw over the middle all the time and it’s risky but we can’t blame Carr acting like it’s not something we don’t see every Sunday
Quarterbacks are always taught to protect their receivers. It’s 100% carr’s fault. He took the gamble instead of throwing it away or taking a sack but at least you still have your guys out there for the next play.
you’re right, we should just throw it away and go three and out. Maybe every time it’s 3rd and long we just throw it away and not push the ball up the field. Just go 3 and out all game
@@sega4212 Are you dense? Carr has a history of putting wrs in those positions which is why MT tweeted. It ain't about throwing the ball, it's about ball placement.
@ I’m not dense I’m just watching a football play gone wrong. Let’s talk about the db that illegally killed Olave. Easy to blame Carr tho I guess when I’ve seen this happen to Olave multiple times now with multiple qbs. Who has Carr set up? Name me some more receivers since Carr is known to do this. Lmao blaming a qb for trying to move the ball instead of the db that smoked him with an illegal hit. Carr always has to be the scapegoat for every little thing with this team when he wasn’t even at fault for olave getting hurt. Unless you’re a saints fan, respectfully there’s nothing you can tell me to believe that Carr is at fault, nothing. MT should learn to get off Twitter and play football for once, nobody takes him serious because he’s a clown
Right now Mike is speaking the truth but I don't think I'll ever be cool w him for throwing Drew under the bus multiple times and then quitting on the team when we still had a shot at another ring
Two things can be true at the same time. Michael Thomas can appear to be the "bitter ex" of a former teammate. AND Derek Carr can have a pretty well documented record of making poor decisions on throws and repeatedly putting his receivers in danger recklessly.
If you are blaming Carr for that injury… don’t you have to blame Mahomes for taking Rice out for the season? Grow up MT. Your time came and went and we hardly saw you, literally, because he spent more times on the sidelines injured than on the field playing. I don’t blame Carr or Mahomes. It’s football, injuries are going to happen. As long as it’s not a malicious play, there is no blame.
I forgot Michael Thomas played in NOLA. So Carr is the only QB who throws that pass?! Was the Carr the one who hit a defenseless WR? It’s football it’s part of the game.
It hasn't always been a part of the game. I have been watching football since I was a kid in the 1980's. Before there was a penalty for hitting a defenseless receiver or helmet to helmet hits, there were headhunting DB's that would blowup receivers with direct shots to the head to lay out the guy and try to force them to drop the ball. (The 1970's were particularly bad for this). The really good QB's would show restraint and not throw to receivers that were going to get blown up like that. The QB was partly responsible for protecting the safety of the receiver and receivers trusted that the really good QB's would not put them in harm's way. Offensive coordinators and the receivers themselves were also partly responsible. In the last 25-30 years, the responsibility to protect receivers has been shifted to the defenders due to rule changes so QB's will throw to receivers in all kinds of traffic and in situations where the receiver could get blown up. The theory is that the defender won't hit the receiver in an unsafe way to avoid drawing a penalty. I blame the way offenses are run today as much as I would blame the QB because the coordinators are also relying on the rules to protect player safety and use the rules to take advantage of the defense.
He should be wearing that special helmet. Carr wouldn't ordinarily throw into triple coverage, but that team is desperate and Olave is the only viable target. Bad mix.
@@ericbutler739 it's called a guardian cap and it literally does no help for a situation like that lmfao 10 year vet should know not to throw a hospital ball. Carr needs to be fired and then he need to retire and be thankful he got paid as much as he has in in embarrassing career.
@@donworryboudat Thanks for clarifying, I couldn't recall the name, but he should wear it regardless given his history. I wasn't defending Carr, just noted that this year he wasnt throwing to covered receivers, just looking for easy 1 on 1s or tossing it up for Shaheed. This was a very bad decision to throw at all and bad ball placement as well. Just really bad all around and I agree Carr is way overpaid and not a great QB, but has the good luck of having great receivers to make him look better his whole career and might have just ended one. Peace.
Mike was just speaking facts. Just because no one else is open doesn’t mean you force a ball to a receiver & lead him into a defender. It’s a weak for a QB to do that.
“he just misses his throw” Orlovsky needs to get up off his knees. Know your PERSONNEL. throwing it deep and high in the middle to olave (who weighs the same amount as a piece of paper) on a post between two defenders. That was not a “missed throw” it was a literal… LITERAL hospital ball
lol why would Carr still be in the league this long if he couldn’t read defenses?? I swear yall just say whatever. It was just bad ball placement nothing more nothing less. It’s football it happens people get hurt. If you can’t deal with it go play tennis.
@ no quarterbacks in this era can read defenses. They don’t have to because a bad read in this era of football results in 15 free yards, an automatic first down, and the defender that made the hit being halfway to an ejection. Understand I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt by saying he can’t read defenses because if he read that safety driving and threw that ball anyway then Michael Thomas is definitely right
No way they sitting here acting like that wasn’t a hospital ball it’s an inaccurate ball in the middle of the field Derek has gotten multiple receivers killed and keeps getting olave killed
Exactly!!!!! it’s Carr’s second time this season throwing a ball that put Olave on a stretcher. Both times he threw to him in a defenseless position
Everyone already commented on Michael Thomas response, but I just want to say I know Derek Carr didn't mean it, but that was a hospital ball if I've ever seen one. He threw it across the middle of the field with a defender running full force straight at Chris Olave. There was no way there was not gonna be a huge collision with where he put the ball and the angle that the defender was coming at. This is why that shouldn't have been unnecessary roughness because neither Chris Olave nor the defender would have been able to stop their momentum no matter what they did.
Dude man Brees made that guys career... He could never separate, was never explosive, had solid hands and brees was arguably the most accurate QB ever that threw him open.
@drewdown2142 lmao but you real calling a grown man a coward on the internet knowing all too well you would never say that to his face out of fear of getting slept? 😂😂 boy shut your vape smoking pronoun using tail up and stay in your lane tf 😂😂
MT Been right about everything so far.. like let’s be real man. Didn’t work in Oakland and still ain’t work for my saints. Only bad thing bout MT is he been hurt but Carr was a reason to it. Carr is literally mid and a worse decision making Kirk cousins
On top of that Thomas didn’t do anything like this with any other QB he had and until Allen was the coach that’s when we got Thomas to break his character and state how he feels. Only thing you can hate Thomas for is not playing which again isn’t his fault that injuries happen to a human body
QB’s normally throw the ball to spots where receivers can protect themselves. But since the NFL implemented targeting and the defenseless WR, they throw the ball wherever .
It's pretty obvious.... Michael Thomas blames Derek Carr on why he's not in the NFL right now. And when Chris Olave got hurt, it struck a nerve for Michael. It was wrong to go on a rant on social media, but Derek Carr threw a hospital ball, which Brady says that's something QBs should never do, because now it'll be tough for his teammates to trust him as a QB or leader.
Carrbage reallly thought he would skip two tough games and comeback against the Panthers as the hero! 💯😆😆😆 Secondly, only Carrbage can get a coach fired twice! 💯😆😆😆 Thirdly, An 11 year QB knows exactly what throw will get a receiver hurt! Lastly, Carrbage taking all that money for 11 years should be a crime! 💯 By the way, Bosa and the GOAT Brady have also been vocal about Carrbage! 💯
Dennis Allen fired, now on to cutting Carr. I’ve waited years for this. MT and AK have been the only ones to honestly speak about our team. Rebuild is on
MT is a child. Dude robbed us of 100 million dollars. As soon as he signed that deal all of the sudden he’s always injured. I wouldn’t take anything he says seriously or even acknowledge it. That was a bad pass by carr but it is what it is
Carr shouldn’t have thrown that ball to him, Chris was in double coverage and had a safety barreling down on. No way was that ball supposed to go there
The guy got hit so hard he peed on himself…that DEFINITELY was a hospital ball…Carrs inaccuracy MADE it a hospital ball.. had he thrown it lower and directly to Olave he would’ve gotten rocked but not to this extent
Andre Johnson’s my favorite WR ever. He’d never do something like that to a teammate. Played with Derek’s older brother and even though there wasn’t success, never a negative moment. Thomas would’ve hated on lineman
Don’t blame the DB he used his shoulder! That ball was terrible and late, you can’t expose your WR like that, he couldn’t even protect himself. I’m not mad at Carr but he is the blame for that tbh.
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Why grown men run to the internet when you have a problem with another man, and you know where he lives and or can call him on the phone and discuss the situation?
Shits weird asf
fr he just looking to be relevant
Thats the generation of “men” we gotta deal with now. All soft. Cant handle nothing without adding drama for clout
Cuz your fragile egos would be bruised then you'll want to fight or shoot someone 😂😂😂
This new generation is bitchmade a lot of em . No one willing to handle things like men . They should of fought years ago
TONS of class from Derek Carr on that response
sure carr likely ended olaves career but at least hes polite during his pressers
@@burgerdaveee Zactly. Every decent QB knows better than to throw in situations like that.
Would have been nice to hear Derek mention not throwing the ball so high next time which lead the wr directly into being hurt. Who cares what a player NOT playing says
@@burgerdaveeeye he expected someone to do their job how dare he
@@Bobbleheads56 olave did his job. part of carrs job is to protect his wrs
MT hasn’t received any offers bc he’s injury prone and does more whining than receiving.
He still didn't lie
You must be a casual saints fan.
@ not a saints fan. Just someone with eyes and ears.
Nothing you said disputes what MT said
Nah bro got his 100 mill and stayed hurt
Like Brady said not too long ago QBs got to do a better job of not putting their receivers in harms way with bad throws
It's a missed throw, even Brady is guilty of them. Nothing else.
Brady set up 4 players in one game trying not to get hit
I love Tom but he was tripping it’s football you go thru the middle you know what it is and every qb has bad throws
Not only QB's but how about coaches? How about not even having some of those plays in the playbook!?
It’s football it’s goin to happen Tom sacrificed Gronk knees comin over the middle he was just to big to hit high 😂😂😂it’s football you gotta go thru the middle to open up the field it’s a bang bang play it’s goin to happen
Man wide receivers with personality like Larry Fitzgerald is a rarity.
It would be a very boring league
Boring is Maturity !
I swear they are mostly toxic divas
@ maturity is for the house. This is entertainment
@@kellenking5108 this ain't reality tv
This is exactly what Tom Brady was tlkn about.
This comment should be pinned.
What did Brady say?
@@brkjeff Quarterbacks should not put receivers life at risk. Derek Carr does it all the time.
@@flyingspacerock8968I watched Brady get gronk, edleman and welker, among others demolished, many times. The majority of those times were in an era where player safety was an afterthought.
Olave has several other concussions that have nothing to do with Carr. I've seen Carr's o lines get his leg broken, and force him to get surgery on his back. Dude has never once pointed the finger at his teammates. It's football, injuries are INEVITABLE.
Thomas makes a good point on why the Saints receivers are dropping like files
Michael Thomas can be right about this and still also be the same problem child he’s always been
Good point
Nobody's CARR'S a bad guy but he threw a bad ball yes
But he isnt right about anything goofy. But get it, you’re going to support your kind no matter what. No matter how intellectually disabled and psycho they are 😂
Stop falling for Carrs damage control bro 💀
@@eatmakock3646imagine being worked up about Derek Carr. I’ve literally never even given him a second thought. I literally forgot his first name as I was typing this.
At the end of the day, all of this stuff said over Twitter needs to be done. Talk to people face to face in private and settle it there.
Celebrities and athletes don’t know how to do that anymore.
But why ? He’s talking about sports on twitter just like the average fan
@ Listen to Shannon’s last point.
Why, to satisfy people like you? Your not some authority 😂😂
So, call Carr and tell him he's trash to his face?
Michael Thomas has no one to blame but himself, for not being in the League!! He’s childish and arrogant and selfish
NBA Youngboy wannabe
That was literally NOT the point at all though. Like not even close to being the point.
The 72 idiots that liked your comment don't know football
He has turf toe
@
And a poor attitude to match!! All of these receivers that have been hurt, why hasn’t he been picked up?
Ball placement matters! A real QB protects his WR with proper ball placement
Bingo. U got slow dudes here not getting it. These same dudes never played any level of competitive football yet acting like they're qualified to talk 😂
Even Dan clearly pointed out that it was bad throw by Derek Carr anyway and Shannon agreed. So if Dan and Shannon know it's a bad throw from the highlight, I'm pretty sure Michael Thomas also knew it was a bad throw that put Olave in danger.
@@MultiBlack17 theres a diffence though of a hospital ball that sets the wr up to get blasted and a bad throw. Hes fine from that throw or he catches and gets blasted, we say thats a bad throw or hospital ball
@@danielcavanagh6411 It was a terrible throw, which led to him going to the hospital. Carr stinks is the moral of the story, he had all the time in the world in the pocket and still made that garbage throw.
True, but maturity also matters, and Thomas just showed his maturity level and has now kept himself off any NFL teams. He got paid a couple of years ago, and let it get to his head. Every single QB to ever play the game has thrown a bad ball (hospital ball) that got his WR hurt...even Brady...even Manning...even Montana...etc. Does that mean that they aren't "real QBs"? No, it simply means that everyone messes up. Difference is, Thomas acted like a baby about it when he's not even in the NFL anymore, and the other QBs I mentioned had WRs that said "It's part of the game. It's not my QBs fault". Fact is, Thomas got his manpon wedged up his glory hole because he's not good enough to play anymore.
Every center-field ball is a hospital ball. I think it's a very common play in the NFL. I see these kinds of plays every week, every game. Brady, Mahomes, Rodgers, Allen, Lamar… all the QBs in history make this play. It’s all about separation and the QB's read-two conditions that weren't met here. Poor dude!
Carr has been known for putting his Wr’s at risk for injuries… Mike Thomas is not crazy
A broken clock is right twice a day
Maybe if Derek Carr can't throw the ball in the middle of the field then the OC shouldn't call plays down the middle of the field you talk like DCs the one in huddle telling Chris go right in the middle of the field we're everyone can hit you 😂of course hes not
yeah either way Michael Thomas is still crazy.... dude is a malcontent headcase diva clown
A 🦝 that's jealous he can't be in the league
@@wilhelm4321why 🦝?
Anybody that watches footballs knows that’s a hospital ball.
That was not a hospital ball. You want to see a hospital ball check out Payton Manning’s throw to Austin Collie.
Please stop with this nonsense.
Bro you will throw to tight windows. That’s the sport. We see it all the time.
It's a hospital bill.
No it wasn’t man. It was a routine NFL route. The burden being placed on Carr here opens up a whole can of worms.
It's not a hospital ball....it was simply an overthrow. That pass happens it every game, the defender chose to deliver a dirty hit
I understand Molly has a job to do but mannnnnn she is annoying
I can't watch her as a matter of fact I'm out
DEI hire
@@fredwright9755nice buz word
she can use her mouth in other spectacular ways
Thomas the same dude who purposely had a surgery late to miss time
That’s the type of throw Brady was ranting about a little while ago saying something of the effect these QBs are throwing their receivers into injuries
Brady almost got edelman and walker killed a few times lol
@@Devlins10your not wrong it’s gonna happen at some point but compared to Peyton or favre he didn’t get his guys killed as much as them
@@bigda6407Carr can’t keep a healthy receiver, that’s the sign you throwing guys into injuries
Last year Carr got Michael Thomas Chris Olave and Rasheed Shaheed hurt in the same game..
Michael Thomas would get hurt playing on a slip and slide at a children's birthday party
Facts, and MT didn't really say anything until that Tursday Night game vs the Jags when DC called out Olave on national TV. It was then MT and Shaheed stood up for Olave and said DC threw to the wrong guy. Their claim was backed up by Chase Daniels and Drew Brees when on that play 3rd and 7 MT was open for 12 yds, Shaheed was open for a potential 5yds gain and Hill was open for a 15+ yds due to teh route Olave was running was a clear-out rount so Olave was not the primary, MT was Hill 2nd Shaheed and if it was a blown coverage perhaps Olave but as the Jags player said Olave wasn't open and he should know because he had underneath while Hill was running open in the area he had left.
@@jackreacher2095He’s a puss. Sits on his couch waiting for a chance to tweet something negative but he won’t talk to Carr like a man.
THEY IGNORED THOSE FACTS THOU AND STICK TO KISSING 🍑 .. ITS CRAZY HOW A GUY CAN BE RECOGNIZED AS A TRUE PROFESSIONAL UNTIL HE DISAGREES WITH A WHITE JESUS LOVING QB ! ALL THE YEARS MIKE PUT UP NUMBERS AND PRODUCED WHEN ALL 11 PLAYERS ON DEFENSE KNEW HE WAS GETTING THE BALL , NEVER COMPLAINED ! PPL ARE QUICK TO FORGET HOW THEY PRAISED MIKE WHEN DREW COULDNT PUSH THE BALL PASS 20yards. WHY CANT WE ALL UNDERSTAND THE FACTS.. DENNIS ALLEN IS A LOOSER ! HENCE HIM BEING FIRED “AGAIN” ! DEREK CAR IS A LOSER . HENCE HIM GOING 2-7 WITH 90% OF A PLAYOFF TEAM, ALSO HIM BEING PAID 100PLUS million , TO NOT PLAY FOR THE RAIDERS ! WINNERS NEVER ACCEPT LEADERSHIP FROM LOSERS, THATS THE FACT !
Facts
That was CLEARLY a hospital ball
And the defender could have avoided the hit.
No it wasn’t, defender made a dirty as play. Watch the replay.
Terrible read by Carr
Terrible read by Carr but that defender hit Olave late
@@Gregole86 Wasn’t a dirty hit, lead with shoulder. The pass was clearly too high.
Tom did say something about throwing the ball like that over the middle because he didn't wanna leave his WR out for dry
Yup
Just tight ends right
@@theecheesecurd7230gronk was huge it's cause they had to tackle him is why he's banged up and he came out of college banged up
Tom did that plenty of times
Wes Welker?? Julian Edelman??
Injuries are unfortunately apart of the game, but even Brady has said on multiple occasions that its the QBs job to lookout for his receivers.
Yeah, QBs been saying that for decades.
Carr literally threw a hospital ball … and y’all acting befuddled? And ironically Brady (who SAS holds in high regard) would’ve called it as such
waaaa bruh go back and watch,it was a illegal hit.dude went for a head shot weather it was a moon ball or not,you cant hit ppl in the head.stop blaming carr
@@tmc31390 Brady? The same person who ended Wes Welkers career has no room to talk
Bro I can show you tons of plays like this. It’s football. Watch the game tonight and mahomes will throw the same type of passes. Hate he got hurt.
@AmericanPatriotsLoveTrump didn't welker have a good season with Manning as his qb? Sounds like BS from you
Ok even if everything u say is true y’all are acting like this guy is a demon & just wanted to purposely get Chris hurt smh I don’t even understand the point here, he threw a bad ball that end up in a bad hit ok cool now what? He’s a bad human lol? It happens it’s football. Do we try and tear the boxer down & blame him cause he boxed so well his opponent died from trauma to the head? No so why we trying to do that with carr
Derek Carr may have threw the ball, but the defender made the hit. That aint his fault, he was trying to make a play. Concussions are apart of the game, these players know what they sign up for.
These dbs be running full speed they can’t just stop that pass shouldn’t have been thrown in that part of the field
They been playing football since they were kids they know what's up sadly
@thenewjord50 facts. In the 90s that wouldn't have even been a penalty
@@thenewjord50 I play linebacker and safety you running full speed you can’t just stop yourself that’s why a lot these time these QBs be trying to slides and it’s hard for a defender not to hit them cause QBs be underestimated how fast these defensive players are
@@Wedat24 I agree it's hard to stop when you going that fast it's usually a bang bang hit especially when you not intentionally trying to legitimately hurt the qb or other offensive players
Diagnosed with a concussion yet the team lets him fly in a high pressure airplane ride that night. Lmaooo
What? 😂
From my understanding, that's really only an issue with lung injuries; of course I wouldn't be wanting to hop on a plane after getting put to sleep either, but old matey had to get home somehow.
Airplanes aren’t high pressure. They are pressurized to 8,000 ft Which is LOW pressure. It would be up to the Doctor to decide if he was capable of flying home.
That’s a hospital pass holy smokes
Mike at fault for his own demise he quit when Drew Brees retired
He also threw away a potential hall of fame career. No saints receivers have gone in.
No. He was happy when we had Jameis. Only QB we had that would get him the ball
@ no he barely played with Jameis look at his stats over the years
Jamie’s was dangerous on the saints
Mike has been stealing money for years
Michael Thomas will never beat the slant boy allegations
NEVER
Slant boy?
Never understood that. Slants was the least amount of routes he ran. Ya don't understand a ten and or 15 and in . Understand west coast offense. With breed being small he need the big targets passing in front
Mt ran more crossing routes than anything and of course he had to run those underneath routes because while I love Drew Brees it was no secret that Drew couldn't throw the ball more than 15yds down the field at the end of his tenure.
Bruh this is an everyday FOOTBALL play .. Qbs throw over the middle all the time and it’s risky but we can’t blame Carr acting like it’s not something we don’t see every Sunday
Quarterbacks are always taught to protect their receivers. It’s 100% carr’s fault. He took the gamble instead of throwing it away or taking a sack but at least you still have your guys out there for the next play.
You don't understand ball placement at all😂
@@AliElsaad that wasn’t even an all that bad of a throw like I said IVE SEEN WORSE. Stop being soft
@@raider1297 who? So the nfl hall of famer who happens to have the same stance as me doesn’t understand ball placement? STFU goofy😂
@@AliElsaad we see it EVERY SUNDAY. Nothing new
Every time Carr throw the ball to olave he takes a big hit this not the first time
Olave needs to get better and demand a trade
@ he is a great receiver
Michael Thomas is right. He’s gonna get someone iced. We want Carr gone more than you know. Now all of our receivers have alligator arms.
yea and mt is a bch who cant make a team
Look back at what k j wright said about Carr a former player with the Raiders! Research it and you'll see for your self! 💯💯💯
That's a fckn hospital pass..no word of a lie.
you’re right, we should just throw it away and go three and out. Maybe every time it’s 3rd and long we just throw it away and not push the ball up the field. Just go 3 and out all game
@@sega4212 Are you dense? Carr has a history of putting wrs in those positions which is why MT tweeted. It ain't about throwing the ball, it's about ball placement.
Thomas is a typical THUG
@ I’m not dense I’m just watching a football play gone wrong. Let’s talk about the db that illegally killed Olave. Easy to blame Carr tho I guess when I’ve seen this happen to Olave multiple times now with multiple qbs. Who has Carr set up? Name me some more receivers since Carr is known to do this. Lmao blaming a qb for trying to move the ball instead of the db that smoked him with an illegal hit. Carr always has to be the scapegoat for every little thing with this team when he wasn’t even at fault for olave getting hurt. Unless you’re a saints fan, respectfully there’s nothing you can tell me to believe that Carr is at fault, nothing. MT should learn to get off Twitter and play football for once, nobody takes him serious because he’s a clown
Noob
How about blaming the line for not protecting Derek?
Na that’s a bad pass my boy
Michael Thomas is a diva, through and through. Saints fans don't gaf what he has to say or think about the team
Speak for yourself.
He’s not a diva tbh you’re not a saints fan if you haven’t had the realization. Mt deserves his spot on the team. Minus Carr.
I’m a saints fan and I care what he has to say. He’s been right about Carr.
Right now Mike is speaking the truth but I don't think I'll ever be cool w him for throwing Drew under the bus multiple times and then quitting on the team when we still had a shot at another ring
Def speak for yourself
Get Carr tf outta here
He'll be benched later in the season when there are a few games left. He's not getting his chance to beat his former team week 17 at Raiders.
Wasn't yall just saying new Orleans was the best offense for first few games 😂..yall switch up quick. Loyalty..look it up
@@TripSoul10why? The back up sucks and Carr is doing good.
When healthy, the saints are a dangerous team. Carr is doing the best with what he currently has, which isn't much.
go f yourself. comment about the bch not being able to make a team
That’s definitely a hospital ball he threw it high where olave couldn’t get it and got rocked
He stares down receivers which allows defenders to tee off on WRs just like yesterday. Defenses know that clown is a 1st read QB
@@nolabrooks9906and also he farts in cups and sniffs it and he plows yourmotha when ever she begs for it this dude is outta control
they were gonna hit him if it was perfect, so he was lined up the high ball made it worse!!! great QBs have done this part of the game
You’re a causal clearly
@@amulet2235 stick to commenting
My dad always told me that if I have an issue with someone to be a man and take it up with that person face to face. Men don't gossip.
Remember the TB 12 interview about throwing in the middle that leaves your WR vulnerable?. This is one of it
Carr is about to go right along with Dennis Allen that era is over
Lol and get who?
@@AmericanPatriot5tank for a QB and some o line
@@AmericanPatriot5 they have Rattler LOL
As an aints fan we just need to get rid of Carr and tank the rest of the season.
I agree, we need shadeur sanders next year lol.
You sound dumb
@@larrinj.2905That would literally be worse than just keeping Carr. Bro is a Bryce Young waiting to happen
Who would be your replacement for Carr?
@@AmericanPatriot5stfu lmao two completely different players
Two things can be true at the same time.
Michael Thomas can appear to be the "bitter ex" of a former teammate.
AND
Derek Carr can have a pretty well documented record of making poor decisions on throws and repeatedly putting his receivers in danger recklessly.
If you are blaming Carr for that injury… don’t you have to blame Mahomes for taking Rice out for the season? Grow up MT. Your time came and went and we hardly saw you, literally, because he spent more times on the sidelines injured than on the field playing. I don’t blame Carr or Mahomes. It’s football, injuries are going to happen. As long as it’s not a malicious play, there is no blame.
Most people do blaim Mahomes. Possibly the worst play in nfl history.
They did blame Mahomes. You didnt do anything with this comment
At the end of the day, the QB should be at blame for putting his WR in harms way. It's not that hard to hold a QB accountable.
Micheal Thomas hasn't done anything in the last 4 years he needs to shut up and keep quiet
Neither has carr 😂
He's still right 😂
I forgot Michael Thomas played in NOLA. So Carr is the only QB who throws that pass?! Was the Carr the one who hit a defenseless WR? It’s football it’s part of the game.
It's called a hospital ball, my guy. Don't act like you never heard of it.
It’s consistent though
Carr has a history of this.
stop being emotional it's a get you hospitalized ball live or dead on arrival
It hasn't always been a part of the game.
I have been watching football since I was a kid in the 1980's. Before there was a penalty for hitting a defenseless receiver or helmet to helmet hits, there were headhunting DB's that would blowup receivers with direct shots to the head to lay out the guy and try to force them to drop the ball. (The 1970's were particularly bad for this).
The really good QB's would show restraint and not throw to receivers that were going to get blown up like that. The QB was partly responsible for protecting the safety of the receiver and receivers trusted that the really good QB's would not put them in harm's way. Offensive coordinators and the receivers themselves were also partly responsible.
In the last 25-30 years, the responsibility to protect receivers has been shifted to the defenders due to rule changes so QB's will throw to receivers in all kinds of traffic and in situations where the receiver could get blown up. The theory is that the defender won't hit the receiver in an unsafe way to avoid drawing a penalty.
I blame the way offenses are run today as much as I would blame the QB because the coordinators are also relying on the rules to protect player safety and use the rules to take advantage of the defense.
Olave is gonna have a short career. Way too many concussions and it’s only his 2nd year
You can thank Carr for that
3rd year but yeah
He should be wearing that special helmet. Carr wouldn't ordinarily throw into triple coverage, but that team is desperate and Olave is the only viable target. Bad mix.
@@ericbutler739 it's called a guardian cap and it literally does no help for a situation like that lmfao 10 year vet should know not to throw a hospital ball. Carr needs to be fired and then he need to retire and be thankful he got paid as much as he has in in embarrassing career.
@@donworryboudat Thanks for clarifying, I couldn't recall the name, but he should wear it regardless given his history. I wasn't defending Carr, just noted that this year he wasnt throwing to covered receivers, just looking for easy 1 on 1s or tossing it up for Shaheed. This was a very bad decision to throw at all and bad ball placement as well. Just really bad all around and I agree Carr is way overpaid and not a great QB, but has the good luck of having great receivers to make him look better his whole career and might have just ended one. Peace.
We knew which side Shay Shay would take… put your glasses back on!
Mike was just speaking facts. Just because no one else is open doesn’t mean you force a ball to a receiver & lead him into a defender. It’s a weak for a QB to do that.
Facts
Non saints fans are slow. Mt was right.
U were singing a different song after week 2😂 ridiculous move going straight to blaming the qb for these losses
@@josiahgross1175nigga are you slow? This whole thing was blaming him for getting olave hurt
Why are we listening to Derek not talk about him throwing his WR into a hit vs throwing it low like it should have been?
First off that a clean hit.
Carr is also out his mind because that route was triple covered and the ball shouldn’t have been thrown.
Finally Dennis is out of the Saints thank goodness! Welcome Darren Rizzi!
“he just misses his throw” Orlovsky needs to get up off his knees. Know your PERSONNEL. throwing it deep and high in the middle to olave (who weighs the same amount as a piece of paper) on a post between two defenders. That was not a “missed throw” it was a literal… LITERAL hospital ball
I will always blame hits like that on the quarterback. These guys can’t read defenses and that’s how these hits happen
lol why would Carr still be in the league this long if he couldn’t read defenses?? I swear yall just say whatever. It was just bad ball placement nothing more nothing less. It’s football it happens people get hurt. If you can’t deal with it go play tennis.
@ no quarterbacks in this era can read defenses. They don’t have to because a bad read in this era of football results in 15 free yards, an automatic first down, and the defender that made the hit being halfway to an ejection. Understand I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt by saying he can’t read defenses because if he read that safety driving and threw that ball anyway then Michael Thomas is definitely right
i like mike but he wrong for that. we all know carr wouldn’t intentionally get anyone hurt. c’mon brotha, get it together
Nah bruh that’s wild af, it was clearly a late hit to a defenseless receiver which he got penalized for. This ain’t right y’all. This is low.
No way they sitting here acting like that wasn’t a hospital ball it’s an inaccurate ball in the middle of the field Derek has gotten multiple receivers killed and keeps getting olave killed
Killed??? As in toe tied🤔
Exactly!!!!! it’s Carr’s second time this season throwing a ball that put Olave on a stretcher. Both times he threw to him in a defenseless position
Everyone already commented on Michael Thomas response, but I just want to say I know Derek Carr didn't mean it, but that was a hospital ball if I've ever seen one. He threw it across the middle of the field with a defender running full force straight at Chris Olave. There was no way there was not gonna be a huge collision with where he put the ball and the angle that the defender was coming at. This is why that shouldn't have been unnecessary roughness because neither Chris Olave nor the defender would have been able to stop their momentum no matter what they did.
Dude man Brees made that guys career... He could never separate, was never explosive, had solid hands and brees was arguably the most accurate QB ever that threw him open.
Real ones know MT is telling the truth
The irony when it's the opposite of real to go to the internet and post about someone you have a problem with.......
You not real or the coward MT
@@billysummers1616 he just telling the truth. If Carr was playing good he’d have nothing to say about him
@drewdown2142 lmao but you real calling a grown man a coward on the internet knowing all too well you would never say that to his face out of fear of getting slept? 😂😂 boy shut your vape smoking pronoun using tail up and stay in your lane tf 😂😂
Real excuses making losers
Michael Thomas is a crazy person. Not too many people know this.
Derek carr is the NFLs first and only QB to lose to 31 teams. Raiders will make it 32 teams in December 😂😂😂
I miss Carr as a Raider. lol I despise him, but miss him. O'well. Saints problem now haha.
@@ItIsYouAreNotYour Carr ruined your years as a Raider fan and you miss him ?? 😂😂
That hits on the safety not carr.
MT Been right about everything so far.. like let’s be real man. Didn’t work in Oakland and still ain’t work for my saints. Only bad thing bout MT is he been hurt but Carr was a reason to it. Carr is literally mid and a worse decision making Kirk cousins
Carr just AINT that guy, at best he will win one playoff game.
On top of that Thomas didn’t do anything like this with any other QB he had and until Allen was the coach that’s when we got Thomas to break his character and state how he feels. Only thing you can hate Thomas for is not playing which again isn’t his fault that injuries happen to a human body
MT is washed
@@jorgey1272everyone gets “washed” at some point. Care has never been anything his whole career
Thomas has been injured for the last 4 years, I doubt hes healthy now. Carr just got there last year, what about those previous 3 years?
"Seemingly blaming Carr" ??????? He is making his stance quite clear lol
Michael "I had 1 great season then stole money from the Saints" Thomas shouldn't be talking bout anybody 😂
He had 4 great seasons bruh
@@mr.brooks9802no he didn’t lol he had maybe 2 great seasons and one other decent one. “4 great seasons” stfu
@ 100 catches and/or 1000 yards is a great season for a WR. What are you talking about?
Check your facts.
Nobody twist your arms to pay them these billionaire owners don't miss a dollar don't hate the playa hate the game 😂
QB’s normally throw the ball to spots where receivers can protect themselves. But since the NFL implemented targeting and the defenseless WR, they throw the ball wherever .
Derek is trash, has been since his days as a raider… Michael Thomas is 100% corrrect.
Thomas is a THUG
Exactly people were just 2 blind to see that Michael Thomas was right
They can’t say what they really want to say !!!
Definitely a hospital ball. It’s amazing how these former players are defending Carr.
Carr isn't accurate many times. He may have come back to soon.
Shannon what are u talking abt? He talking abt this because carr laid him out to dry and he got killed
Shannon always makes things about him
That wasn't egregious. It was a bad play on Carrs part. It has happened a lot in the past. Cousins was bad earlier in his career in Washington.
Why did Olave decline to wear the 'Guardian helmet' like he said he would? Safety matters, stop trying to be a 'tough guy.'
It's not gonna help when you get whiplash like this due to being sandwiched.
new drinkin game, take a shot when Carr says "ya know"
P. Manning used to this to Austin Collie most of the time.
Carr can be as polite as he wants, he’s a hospital ball king
Mike thomas feels his last injury was because of a bad throw from carr
People talking MT, but i mean he ain't wrong and that's what need to be talked about instead of MT getting slandered for it.
The disrespect to Godwin is crazy lol
It's pretty obvious.... Michael Thomas blames Derek Carr on why he's not in the NFL right now. And when Chris Olave got hurt, it struck a nerve for Michael. It was wrong to go on a rant on social media, but Derek Carr threw a hospital ball, which Brady says that's something QBs should never do, because now it'll be tough for his teammates to trust him as a QB or leader.
Carrbage reallly thought he would skip two tough games and comeback against the Panthers as the hero! 💯😆😆😆 Secondly, only Carrbage can get a coach fired twice! 💯😆😆😆 Thirdly, An 11 year QB knows exactly what throw will get a receiver hurt! Lastly, Carrbage taking all that money for 11 years should be a crime! 💯 By the way, Bosa and the GOAT Brady have also been vocal about Carrbage! 💯
Dennis Allen fired, now on to cutting Carr. I’ve waited years for this. MT and AK have been the only ones to honestly speak about our team. Rebuild is on
The ball was high though in Michael Thomas's defense. Just to play devil's advocate. It's a medicine ball and now Olave needs medicine.
MT is a child. Dude robbed us of 100 million dollars. As soon as he signed that deal all of the sudden he’s always injured. I wouldn’t take anything he says seriously or even acknowledge it. That was a bad pass by carr but it is what it is
It’s crazy how people act like athletes wanna be hurt
Carr robbing yall also 😂
Carr shouldn’t have thrown that ball to him, Chris was in double coverage and had a safety barreling down on. No way was that ball supposed to go there
The play call is from the OC stupid, not Carr
@@kcx1588xdc made the read ???
As horrible as the Saint’s cap situation is, it makes you wonder if Carr will even be there next year👀
He won’t…look at the contract
He Always Give A Compliment,Then In The Same Breath He Say Something Slick,
Can’t believe Yal not blaming Carr
He can't throw and puts receivers at risk !!!!!
@@Jevildury exactly they wanna talk about MT & forget about Carr
@@uncleclark just cause he's a so called cancer 😂😂😂😂 nah boy let's talk how bad DC is
@@Jevildury 💯💀
Carr can do the funniest thing and go on a winning streak to ruin their chances at drafting sanders or ward 😂
Carr and winning streak don't belong in the same sentence 😂😂😂😂
M.Thomas deff on drugs lol
He said what he said. The media blows it up and now we’re talking about it. Good/bad material.
Its the Qb job to make sure you protect your receivers from getting lit up after the catch from their blind side.
The guy got hit so hard he peed on himself…that DEFINITELY was a hospital ball…Carrs inaccuracy MADE it a hospital ball.. had he thrown it lower and directly to Olave he would’ve gotten rocked but not to this extent
Michael Thomas is not crazy. Too many times bad ball placement.
Andre Johnson’s my favorite WR ever. He’d never do something like that to a teammate. Played with Derek’s older brother and even though there wasn’t success, never a negative moment. Thomas would’ve hated on lineman
Michael Thomas is a clown
It's because you're not drew brees 😂😂 his success depending heavily on brees.. he's been an afterthought since
Michael Thomas sees Derek for who he really is
@@bellgreenrose he's a guy who gets paid to play which is what Michael Thomas is not
So a guy who’s not on a roster vs a guy getting paid millions and on a roster
@@jejbsh2191 2 things can be true
It’s pretty sad none of them acknowledge that that was a horrible throw and decision by the qb. Derrick Carr should be taking more heat for this
Don’t blame the DB he used his shoulder! That ball was terrible and late, you can’t expose your WR like that, he couldn’t even protect himself. I’m not mad at Carr but he is the blame for that tbh.