On Defence masteries, for Scyl, I prefer Harvest Despair ahead of Delay Death. 60% chance of placing a leach every time she lands a stun is massive for overall team survival.
@@integralinsanity1641 Still waiting on Apo to drop for me. Amazing how I've watched the start of a half dozen F2P new account starts and it seems each 1 pulls Apothecary with Mystery shards main, sometimes the ancients, within 1-2 weeks of playing. Yaaah, that ain't happening here. 2+ months here and I'm sure others have gone much longer.
Spider is pretty easy for f2p. You get drexthar from 3vs3 (and he is the best spider tank imo if you dont have mutliple ch, royals etc for a nuke comb). If you have no miscreated you can use other healers/cleansers.
All in all everything is doable with patience i just got my scyl recently and i am able to auto all 20 dungons (with exeption of spider since i didnt get around to focusing on it to much not to mention it requiring me to build people specificaly for that and i have around 9 rank 6 champions so i cant spare any for a specific dungeon) and i am both fully f2p and more of a casual player (as a example of what i mean with casual gamer i havent done my daily quests in a week or more since i dont have that much time atm and besides the first couple days i dont think i ever used all arena fights regularly skip tag team and faction crypts etc) its just time and proper gear composition and team building Dont let all the talk about legos or competetive times etc scare you
i never hear anyone mention crimson slayer...i have armiger (im still new and he is lvl 35 atm) but no coldheart. i have a lvl 40 crimson slayer and her skills seem they would work fine plus i have enough books to get her half filled. someone tell me im wrong to invest in her??!!
@@ANGST.ARGENTINA I've been there. Just recently turned on auto to do a bunch of Fire Knight runs on stage 16 (the void affinity one). Normally it'd take a couple minutes or so to complete a run, I checked in on it and it was at ~48 mins in on one of the runs, stuck in a loop against that damn Paragon, ruining the day.
I put an arena match on auto once, and came back a full hour later to find 1 champ on each side - apothecary and vergis, just stuck in a loop of heals and shields
I am struggling in this game in a few areas now… I feel I have some pretty decent champs but I apparently don’t know how to use them. Where do I sign up for an account takeover???
My 20 Spider team: Miscreated Monster with warmaster. That shield is insanely powerfull. Visix: tank and TM reduction. Armiger: TM reduction, Stag Knight: Debuffer. ColdHeart: DD and TM control. Free account. I guess I was a bit lucky getting SK and MM .... My problem was passing level 19... lol
Scyl is an absolute beast. For the F2P people...unless u get lucky and pull a Valk or Siphi early, throw your free books into Scyl!!! She's a great champion. I think people under rate her because she's free.
Great vid mate! I feel like people should know that if you have any Force Affinity toons in the team the Spiderlings will attack them first, so you suggest adding Doompriest and that will throw out your tank from getting attacked. This works because its all Spirit and Magic affinity.
Any recommendations for a Scyl replacement? These f2p teams are great, and I love the content, but im only up to dark athel in my champs and sitting at spider 17
@@photon2563 I used Kael with another Nuker up until 15, once I pulled Skullcrown I was able to push up to 17 but its not 100% SR. No HP burn besides single target.
It's good information sure.. but what do you do when you haven't played for 180 days yet.. so no scyl of the drakes.. everyone seems to forget that it takes a long time to get that free champ.. so what do you do when you want to go for spider before you get scyl?
@@christinehottinger5791 nearly 10mins of weak hits is a lot of spider queen shots to the face and a lot of time for her to eat. It's not the same as an average spider team who hide behind MM shields or just need to hit a few big enemy MAX HP skills.
there are few strategies that can be used to complete spider 19/20 all over the RUclips. But at the end you will need to take that last step by yourself and figure it out with the roster you have at the moment. I will share some ideas which work - 1) number one is to manipulate (lower) the turn meter of the big spider so it doesn't get a turn or two before you kill it, 2) crowd control the entire spawn of little spiderlings with stuns/fears/freezes, 3) AoE HP burn makes wonders here as well, 4) make sure you have someone to put decrease def at least on the big spider (bonus if you can place it on all enemies), same goes with weaken and decrease attack, 4) and finally if you can put shield on your entire team and/or have a healer/cleanser/reviver then you are set to do it.
Same team he used, just transfer zephyr sniper stats and Lifesteal gear on a blue champion with AoE or good heals. (Scyl and Apothecary are great ones)
@@chupacabra602 Thank you. That's good advice. I have tried variations but most of my suitable champs are negative affinity for Spider 19. I've tried looking for Spider 19 videos. Most are for 20, but I'll keep looking.
Zephyr Sniper is great in Off tree with 6 Star gear. If you don't have great gear she dies a lot. For crap gear: a point in Unshakeable in Def tree, Support tree, turn meter manipulation, improved heals and cooldowns. She doesn't get poisoned, improved Life Steals more often, casts her own heal more often and more effectively, and is finally still standing when the Boss dies.
I am glad you warned me about Armiger because I almost threw one out thinking he was food and then I remembered but I never throw out point blank Legendaries but there are so few of those I can currently access until I find some seriously obnoxious poison and weakness stacking champions for the clan boss which I have challenged a number of times with different strategies none of which have been successful.
Souldbond Bowyer can do the same as Zephyr but better, right?(Asking because I have her) Also, why Cycle of revenge in the tank? I know u said u dont want to go for retaliation wich usually uses the Retribution mastery, but how does Zephys benefit from Cycle of revenge here?
HI H.H! Thanks for the vid! Please do a spider 18 vid. No-one does that as it is the most hard level of spider, even much harder than level 20 because of the affinity. None of those Spirit affinity, specially the Armiger will not work in Level18 and the team composition will fall apart.
You can build armiger with 115% crit and that should make up for the affinity so you can still get the Tm reduction. Other than that, my team for magic affinity is tayrel, scyl, royal guard, apothecary and coldheart, which works pretty well if you have those
Already completed the Arbiter missions but the team I used was just around 70% successful. Then I found a comfortable niche with my renegade nuke team with Royal Guard(lead), Renegade, 2x Coldhearts and a WarMaiden. The order of attacks are A2 for both CH, WM DecDef, RG nuke, CH 2xNuke, Renegade reset and it ends in about 49-54sec. They do wonders for Spider events and still farming up better gear to get all the champs to better 5* or all 6* gear.
And those speeds, man... I can barely get my HK to 236, and I literally only have 100 acc and no hp/def whatsoever. Thank god I have MM, double CH, Rae and Apo for Spider-20, it would have taken me months and months otherwise
@@ГеоргиПеев-й3ы One month of farming Dragon 20, I have 4 champs going 240ish speeds. They aren't the best at anything other than speed right now. But if I skip the Yoshi Drunkard fragment summon, I can probably have my fifth champ at 240 speeds. About a month ago, I was crying to get my first champ (Apothecary) to 240. I literally complete the daily quests, and use all the leftover energy for Dragon 20. Another month, and I'll be set speed wise for a few months. I still can't beat Spider19. But I have double coldhearts. I'll get there some day :)
@@mechmanmegh Oh, damn, got it. I am fully f2p tho so I can't really put any spare energy into Dragon runs because I don't have any spare energy left lmao - I always have to dedicate my full energy to whatever tournament/event I'm farming... currently champion training event, I kinda wanna reach the epic book or hell, even the void shard. If not the lego book. This means my whole energy going in it, and gemming from the 600-650 gems I had collected recently.
Great Hall AND the stat bonus from where you are in Arena (which is like 20% for Gold 4). Combined they are super substantial and I think worth a lot more than a banner.
Hi Hell, tnx for the guide video. I run with similar team (Armiger, Belover with stun set, Deacon Armstrong, Zephyr Sniper and Elfguard) and it worked for me. Ty one more time :) cheers
Who are alternatives? I am fortunate to have Dutchess Lilitu who would I pull out and put her in because she has a speed aura? I also have CH so would I pull out Arminger and put her in?
Hades so if i were to build my champs do i still need higher hp than my tank if i use udk as my tank i also got resistance on him so he doesnt get those poisons al lthe time
I have 2 royal guards and 2 coldharts and a stag knight but still can't kill spider 20. Mr. HH I'm begging you to tell me what numbers do i need to whack the spider under 30 seconds like defence down and smack smack smack smack.
thank you. looks like get the free-bee to lv 50/60 and maybe use the market for duplicates to build up skills. working on Elfguard, Zephry, Armiger, slowly building up skills but their still 2* working on 3*. No Scyl the Drakes yet. Still working towards the Lordy Legion. helpful hints. things to look forward to.
I did spider 20 the first time after clearing 19, the day before yesterday, but it was a one off. I get Drexthar in 9 days, so I'm not sure I can be bothered trying again until I have him.
I got my Drexthar on the bazaar and Drex + Scyl made my runs on spider 20 100%. I don't have a coldheart either, now I'm running Lodric, Drex, Armiger, Stag Knight, and Apothecary. I tried Lodric in place of Scyl and he can support too, still works 100%.
Thank you for building out Elf Guard. It has inspired me to try building a similar team. I like the elf guard option to assist Armiger. Once level 25 dungeons get involved, the spirit champs will be weak. I think I will like to see if I can get this done.
Hi HH! This video help me so much! I twick Scyl regarding your advices and ... That's it, I beat Spider's 20! My team: Scyl, MMS, Royal Guard, Draco & Coldheart. I will get my Arbiter in a few mn ... Many thx. Keep pushing! Your video are always interesting.
i know these are very helpful guides but i think one thing content creators forget to mention is how much stat boosts they get from a maxed out great hall might want to try with further reduced gear sets to simulate nerfing the great hall bonuses.
Ideally Armiger would be about 1 speed lower than Elfguard (or a second Armiger) that way Armiger could use his a2 if the turn meter is low enough, and warmaster is the way to go on Armiger. I had mine with helmsmasher and recently switched to warmaster and I actually got a boost in damage from him, and his a2 still hits just as hard with a helmsmasher proc as a warmaster proc. But thank you HH I was actually thinking about ways to deal with spider on my alt account.
Hey would you mind telling plarium to fix tag team arena there has been this bug for months now where inbetween battles the animation will freeze for a few seconds and then kick me out and most of the time it will happen when I am winning or tied and I lose tokens and points they won’t fix it I am losing resources and it is pissing me off!!!
Im 96 days into the game and really cant get far into Spider at the moment. I can beat Stage 5 with the right combination of characters in my roster (Im trying to get fourth character to get ascended to 50) so this feels very far away. Since Scyl is not available for me til day 180, is there someone else that can take that role til I get her? I also dont have Armiger but if hes an uncommon it shouldnt take too long to find him with Mystery Shards. I have the rest of the characters. Also, can you do a video where the characters have 3 and four star gear instead? I do have one six star set of Relentless but otherwise my main gear right now is around 3-5 mix of blues and purples with a few legendary level items.
Great vid! Learned a lot from your vids since starting 2,5 month ago. My only question is, is Apothecary a good sub for High Khatun? And can you give some non legendary substitutions for Scyl? Otherwise most people need to wait 3-4 month to use the team comps from many of your f2p vids. Anyhow great content!
I agree, but I think it would be helpful to have a substitute to level until the 7th month for the progress. So you can already farm for higher gear instead of waiting until you reach 180 days and then start to progress. And once you get Scyl you can go for her, I totally agree. But this substitution will help many f2p players to progress further in almost all content and in that way you will be able to use your resources much more efficient. Once again great video HH! Like to see more of this for other dungeons.
@@agionek.3417 yep and dragon and ice golem is really easy as f2p i did mine versions there too(scyl can solo IG or scyl + ghrush even in not that great gear), but FK is a lot harder with free champs we get... that i didnt find any composition yet
2:30 AM and i got My arbitrer i almost give up, but thanks to this vídeo man, i got it, because i don't know what plarium Will do, My team rasin,Draco, aphoticary,drextar,coldhearth,
I'm curious are any of these dungeons do able without masteries? Most of my champions don't have full masteries if any and I feel that's my biggest downfall so far. Also love your videos hellhades they're always so very helpful thank you so much for all the time you invest into these videos etc
get your 5 most versatile champions on minotaur and multi battle. spend your energy until all of them have full masteries and everything else will be much easier.
Suggestion: try doing this with 4 star gear. Have to remember people are saying they can't do this content meaning they most likely can't reliably farm 5 star let alone 6 star, especially 6 star jewelry. I think if you did that it would be more realistic since you do have GH bonus as well as bloated stats from 5/6 star epic and lego gear. People in stages 13-19 dungeons generally have few 5 star and the majority of the 5 star is most likely farmed from campaign and is just common grey or uncommon green 5 star gear
Did you regear Armiger between the showcase and the fight? He doesn’t appear to be reducing the Max HP that Destroy gear would do. Seems a bit disingenuous if the gear used in the run isn’t what was actually used in the showcase. Good tips nonetheless. Shame that the players who are struggling with Spider likely don’t have the gear to match what you have done here.
I guess it's all about the gear and team stat balance. I still can't get over 13 Spider despite full masteries (HH guide) on my top Spider champs: Coldheart, Psylar, Septimus, Soulbound Bowyer, Apothecary and Lyssnadra... We need a more overall guide, from team roles and stat balance between champs to gear needed. Also need tips about the progression order, like first - Dragon up to N stage, then Spider, and so on.
I love the content HH. Just one thing that always bugs me, I would like to see the end of your boss fights for damage done stats, time completion, and (I don't know why) the item dropped. I know you skip ahead because you think its boring, but maybe just delay it til the end? Solid content as usual!
On Defence masteries, for Scyl, I prefer Harvest Despair ahead of Delay Death. 60% chance of placing a leach every time she lands a stun is massive for overall team survival.
I love the removal of jewelry. This is how u showcase champions/teams. Love it.
Good move on removing the banners to simulate more novice accounts. Like that...
Def ...and most novices accounts are going to have all that 6* gear as well.
@@ThomasJ6411 It's about the numbers, if you are are at level 20 dungeons, you should be able to hit 3k defense without 6* gear.
Do this series for all dungeons. Fire Knight is pissing me off.
totally agree on this 1
please make it ASAP
It's already been made.
You literally need apothecary and any reflect damage ir you dont have the hard to get counter
@@integralinsanity1641 Still waiting on Apo to drop for me. Amazing how I've watched the start of a half dozen F2P new account starts and it seems each 1 pulls Apothecary with Mystery shards main, sometimes the ancients, within 1-2 weeks of playing. Yaaah, that ain't happening here. 2+ months here and I'm sure others have gone much longer.
@@MercuryRyzen took me a few months to pull an apothecary on an ancient...but pulled two in a row
These types of videos are so valuable to the player base , thanks for showing us how with champs everyone has :)
Back down to earth, appreciate it Hades
Awesome video. For players like me with a small roster, time to complete is not the issue, just getting the win :)...Love these types of vids.
Love vids like this! Just shows that getting to end game as f2p, even with bad shard luck, is hard but not impossible.
Drexthar and scyl are MVP for f2p acc :)
Spider is pretty easy for f2p. You get drexthar from 3vs3 (and he is the best spider tank imo if you dont have mutliple ch, royals etc for a nuke comb). If you have no miscreated you can use other healers/cleansers.
the fact that this is doable gives me hope, i did not think id ever be able to clear dungeons
lol of course its doable, my team are, vrask tank, valerie ( yep ) a rare, ult galek, sycl and jareg
Nowhere near getting scyl yet though, still on the second week of arhels chart
All in all everything is doable with patience
i just got my scyl recently and i am able to auto all 20 dungons (with exeption of spider since i didnt get around to focusing on it to much not to mention it requiring me to build people specificaly for that and i have around 9 rank 6 champions so i cant spare any for a specific dungeon) and i am both fully f2p and more of a casual player (as a example of what i mean with casual gamer i havent done my daily quests in a week or more since i dont have that much time atm and besides the first couple days i dont think i ever used all arena fights regularly skip tag team and faction crypts etc)
its just time and proper gear composition and team building Dont let all the talk about legos or competetive times etc scare you
You don't need scyl, if you have paragon, if u got him already, u will pass 20, slowly but u will
@@iDcsYitzhak Wasnt the whole Paragon cheese realy hard to set up for auto?
I like how you're a whale and still help the new community - appreciate it man
Can someone explain to me how Zephyr becomes the focus and no one else? All have the same affinity as spider Oo
Where is Countess Lix!? She's "free"! 😄
Sooo freee XD
150 shards free xdd
Only 150 shards easy
i never hear anyone mention crimson slayer...i have armiger (im still new and he is lvl 35 atm) but no coldheart. i have a lvl 40 crimson slayer and her skills seem they would work fine plus i have enough books to get her half filled. someone tell me im wrong to invest in her??!!
Seeing this team reminded me of an accidental 22 minute spirt keep run with a Miscreated Monster.
Sometimes it do be like that
I once got caught in a loop against paragon in FC. Oh boy.
@@ANGST.ARGENTINA I've been there. Just recently turned on auto to do a bunch of Fire Knight runs on stage 16 (the void affinity one). Normally it'd take a couple minutes or so to complete a run, I checked in on it and it was at ~48 mins in on one of the runs, stuck in a loop against that damn Paragon, ruining the day.
I put an arena match on auto once, and came back a full hour later to find 1 champ on each side - apothecary and vergis, just stuck in a loop of heals and shields
I am struggling in this game in a few areas now… I feel I have some pretty decent champs but I apparently don’t know how to use them. Where do I sign up for an account takeover???
How do you make sure Zephyr is taking the hits, not Armiger? Your armiger had less defense and about equal hp.
I've got some great epics and I got a few legendaries but I can't book any of them, farmable characters? I can book those that's what we need more of
My 20 Spider team: Miscreated Monster with warmaster. That shield is insanely powerfull. Visix: tank and TM reduction. Armiger: TM reduction, Stag Knight: Debuffer. ColdHeart: DD and TM control.
Free account.
I guess I was a bit lucky getting SK and MM ....
My problem was passing level 19... lol
I've never clicked on a video so fast!
Same
HH only liking the good comments🤣 show me with a blank great hall and I'll believe you can do it🤣
Scyl single handedly got me to go from spider 13 to spider 20.
Good vid, same applies for FTP, as u said, use whatever you got for each role
Scyl is an absolute beast. For the F2P people...unless u get lucky and pull a Valk or Siphi early, throw your free books into Scyl!!! She's a great champion. I think people under rate her because she's free.
Really good video. Thank you so much
Great FTP Team showcase, well done HH, Many Thanks I´d like to see more like this.
Great vid mate! I feel like people should know that if you have any Force Affinity toons in the team the Spiderlings will attack them first, so you suggest adding Doompriest and that will throw out your tank from getting attacked. This works because its all Spirit and Magic affinity.
Any recommendations for a Scyl replacement? These f2p teams are great, and I love the content, but im only up to dark athel in my champs and sitting at spider 17
what comp do you run? im nowhere near that high in any dungeon :(
Achak the Wanderin
@@photon2563 I used Kael with another Nuker up until 15, once I pulled Skullcrown I was able to push up to 17 but its not 100% SR. No HP burn besides single target.
I'm thinking about cheesing my way through spider 11.. that's where I'm stuck rn
Soulbound if you have her in a stun set works too
It's good information sure.. but what do you do when you haven't played for 180 days yet.. so no scyl of the drakes.. everyone seems to forget that it takes a long time to get that free champ.. so what do you do when you want to go for spider before you get scyl?
you wait for scyl
I love that this video really gives credit to uncommon champs!
3 spirit affinity turn meter controllers are going to struggle getting past spider 18
just have to do it once. I beat 18 and 19 with my same spider 20 team, just ran it til I got a bit lucky.
@@christinehottinger5791 nearly 10mins of weak hits is a lot of spider queen shots to the face and a lot of time for her to eat. It's not the same as an average spider team who hide behind MM shields or just need to hit a few big enemy MAX HP skills.
@@Tibasu I beat it without MM and with only Armiger doing max HP skills. I did have Ult Galek, but my first times were around 7 minutes on 20.
Put armiger in Relentless set and it'll be 2x faster
Any chance of a guide on Spider 19 which is arguably harder than 20?
there are few strategies that can be used to complete spider 19/20 all over the RUclips. But at the end you will need to take that last step by yourself and figure it out with the roster you have at the moment. I will share some ideas which work - 1) number one is to manipulate (lower) the turn meter of the big spider so it doesn't get a turn or two before you kill it, 2) crowd control the entire spawn of little spiderlings with stuns/fears/freezes, 3) AoE HP burn makes wonders here as well, 4) make sure you have someone to put decrease def at least on the big spider (bonus if you can place it on all enemies), same goes with weaken and decrease attack, 4) and finally if you can put shield on your entire team and/or have a healer/cleanser/reviver then you are set to do it.
Same team he used, just transfer zephyr sniper stats and Lifesteal gear on a blue champion with AoE or good heals. (Scyl and Apothecary are great ones)
@@chupacabra602 Thank you. That's good advice. I have tried variations but most of my suitable champs are negative affinity for Spider 19.
I've tried looking for Spider 19 videos. Most are for 20, but I'll keep looking.
@@makkapakka66 ruclips.net/video/o-T_HA2fNI0/видео.html
Zephyr Sniper is great in Off tree with 6 Star gear. If you don't have great gear she dies a lot.
For crap gear: a point in Unshakeable in Def tree, Support tree, turn meter manipulation, improved heals and cooldowns. She doesn't get poisoned, improved Life Steals more often, casts her own heal more often and more effectively, and is finally still standing when the Boss dies.
I am glad you warned me about Armiger because I almost threw one out thinking he was food and then I remembered but I never throw out point blank Legendaries but there are so few of those I can currently access until I find some seriously obnoxious poison and weakness stacking champions for the clan boss which I have challenged a number of times with different strategies none of which have been successful.
Thanks HH! Pls always do this kind of content for F2P
Souldbond Bowyer can do the same as Zephyr but better, right?(Asking because I have her) Also, why Cycle of revenge in the tank? I know u said u dont want to go for retaliation wich usually uses the Retribution mastery, but how does Zephys benefit from Cycle of revenge here?
Don't forget kids six months of grinding to get those artifacts up
HI H.H! Thanks for the vid! Please do a spider 18 vid. No-one does that as it is the most hard level of spider, even much harder than level 20 because of the affinity. None of those Spirit affinity, specially the Armiger will not work in Level18 and the team composition will fall apart.
Agreed, I recently had to use paragon to get thru 18, still working on 19. I will be so set when I get to 20 tho!
You can build armiger with 115% crit and that should make up for the affinity so you can still get the Tm reduction. Other than that, my team for magic affinity is tayrel, scyl, royal guard, apothecary and coldheart, which works pretty well if you have those
Already completed the Arbiter missions but the team I used was just around 70% successful. Then I found a comfortable niche with my renegade nuke team with Royal Guard(lead), Renegade, 2x Coldhearts and a WarMaiden. The order of attacks are A2 for both CH, WM DecDef, RG nuke, CH 2xNuke, Renegade reset and it ends in about 49-54sec.
They do wonders for Spider events and still farming up better gear to get all the champs to better 5* or all 6* gear.
This is a great vid. Shows off your knowledge of the game and really helps people out.
For all of them to be on the right HP level for spiderlings to attack the tank is quite tricky and may takes a bit of trials and error though
And those speeds, man... I can barely get my HK to 236, and I literally only have 100 acc and no hp/def whatsoever.
Thank god I have MM, double CH, Rae and Apo for Spider-20, it would have taken me months and months otherwise
@@ГеоргиПеев-й3ы One month of farming Dragon 20, I have 4 champs going 240ish speeds. They aren't the best at anything other than speed right now. But if I skip the Yoshi Drunkard fragment summon, I can probably have my fifth champ at 240 speeds.
About a month ago, I was crying to get my first champ (Apothecary) to 240.
I literally complete the daily quests, and use all the leftover energy for Dragon 20.
Another month, and I'll be set speed wise for a few months.
I still can't beat Spider19. But I have double coldhearts. I'll get there some day :)
@@mechmanmegh Oh, damn, got it. I am fully f2p tho so I can't really put any spare energy into Dragon runs because I don't have any spare energy left lmao - I always have to dedicate my full energy to whatever tournament/event I'm farming... currently champion training event, I kinda wanna reach the epic book or hell, even the void shard. If not the lego book. This means my whole energy going in it, and gemming from the 600-650 gems I had collected recently.
@@ГеоргиПеев-й3ы Yeah, I've been completely avoiding tournaments for a month. You loose something to gain something I guess.
Thats why you use a false affinity tank. Razin or Drexthar are excelent in spider 20.
Excellent Strat Guide Once Again Homie!...Most Excellent. Grazi
Instead of Scyl of the Drakes can I use Crimson Helm cause I don't have any legendaries?
Great Hall AND the stat bonus from where you are in Arena (which is like 20% for Gold 4). Combined they are super substantial and I think worth a lot more than a banner.
ye , but he never speaks about those anymore , those are 1/3 or more in terms of dmg / stayin alive .
Hi Hell, tnx for the guide video. I run with similar team (Armiger, Belover with stun set, Deacon Armstrong, Zephyr Sniper and Elfguard) and it worked for me. Ty one more time :) cheers
Who are alternatives?
I am fortunate to have Dutchess Lilitu who would I pull out and put her in because she has a speed aura?
I also have CH so would I pull out Arminger and put her in?
Hope Visix gets some love in the void rebalance!
what makes the spiderlings always attack zephyr? is it because she has the lowest HP of all the champions?
Thanks for the guide.. Can you give hints for the same mechanic for spider 18 and 19? please
Hades so if i were to build my champs do i still need higher hp than my tank if i use udk as my tank i also got resistance on him so he doesnt get those poisons al lthe time
I have 2 royal guards and 2 coldharts and a stag knight but still can't kill spider 20. Mr. HH I'm begging you to tell me what numbers do i need to whack the spider under 30 seconds like defence down and smack smack smack smack.
I beat the scarab king because of your guide,
I really appreciate this, in Spider I suffer :)
thank you. looks like get the free-bee to lv 50/60 and maybe use the market for duplicates to build up skills. working on Elfguard, Zephry, Armiger, slowly building up skills but their still 2* working on 3*. No Scyl the Drakes yet. Still working towards the Lordy Legion. helpful hints. things to look forward to.
i sacrificed High Khatun at the very beginning of my account what can i use instead of her?
How does the aggro work? My bad el kazar seems to be tanking all the spider lings. How do I get the spider lings to focus my tank?
In my case it was HP, I use Visix to "tank" and she has the lowest HP by far. I think you need yo have your tank under 29k and all others over 31k
WOW! The fight + that AWESOME INSTRUMENTAL 😍 realy got me! What music is that if I may ask?
Thanks, Double H. Great job.
Cheers! 😊
Thanks for the help when i get the champs
Who els can u use if u dont have that legendary hero and night gaurd
Can i replace Elfguard with second Armiger???
Wouldn't destroy lower the dmg armiger does?
Can you swap out sniper for UDK ?
I've only been playing a couple of months and don't yet have Scyl of the Drake's. Who could I sub her for?
HELP! I cannot get past SPIDER 19. I've tried the Paragon Cheese but still get killed :/
I did spider 20 the first time after clearing 19, the day before yesterday, but it was a one off. I get Drexthar in 9 days, so I'm not sure I can be bothered trying again until I have him.
Drexthar without masteries it's a great champion for spider 20. When you get him, work on it.
i tried with a coldheart instead of elfguard and it doesnt work, the spider takes turns
I got my Drexthar on the bazaar and Drex + Scyl made my runs on spider 20 100%. I don't have a coldheart either, now I'm running Lodric, Drex, Armiger, Stag Knight, and Apothecary. I tried Lodric in place of Scyl and he can support too, still works 100%.
Is There another opion for scyl?
Can kael,uugo,deacon,painkeeper and apothecary beat spider 20?
Thank you for building out Elf Guard. It has inspired me to try building a similar team. I like the elf guard option to assist Armiger. Once level 25 dungeons get involved, the spirit champs will be weak. I think I will like to see if I can get this done.
Can i use rel tender instead of scyl?
To the masteries of Zephyr Sniper: Wouldnt retribution be much more effective than Cycle of Revenge?
My team wont work spiderling attack my scyl?
Hi HH! This video help me so much! I twick Scyl regarding your advices and ... That's it, I beat Spider's 20! My team: Scyl, MMS, Royal Guard, Draco & Coldheart. I will get my Arbiter in a few mn ... Many thx. Keep pushing! Your video are always interesting.
If coldheart replaces armiger can you confirm what rares replace the others thank you
They're mostly Spirit affinity. What about Spider 19?
whats the name of the music played during the spider run?
Was a track someone made for me mate
@@HellHades put it on spotify and make millions 😂
Hello, what is your opinion on Armiger in Relentless set?
Decent but stats are more important than sets
@@HellHades of course, about 2,7k def, 170 speed and 210 acc.
i know these are very helpful guides but i think one thing content creators forget to mention is how much stat boosts they get from a maxed out great hall might want to try with further reduced gear sets to simulate nerfing the great hall bonuses.
Which hero would you replace in this team with royal guard?
Ideally Armiger would be about 1 speed lower than Elfguard (or a second Armiger) that way Armiger could use his a2 if the turn meter is low enough, and warmaster is the way to go on Armiger. I had mine with helmsmasher and recently switched to warmaster and I actually got a boost in damage from him, and his a2 still hits just as hard with a helmsmasher proc as a warmaster proc. But thank you HH I was actually thinking about ways to deal with spider on my alt account.
Armitage? How on f2p do we have her? We don't almost gaurenteed
Hey would you mind telling plarium to fix tag team arena there has been this bug for months now where inbetween battles the animation will freeze for a few seconds and then kick me out and most of the time it will happen when I am winning or tied and I lose tokens and points they won’t fix it I am losing resources and it is pissing me off!!!
High Khatun has been my forgotten gem she is making it back onto several of my teams
I have all those champions. Now I need the proper gear.
Im 96 days into the game and really cant get far into Spider at the moment. I can beat Stage 5 with the right combination of characters in my roster (Im trying to get fourth character to get ascended to 50) so this feels very far away. Since Scyl is not available for me til day 180, is there someone else that can take that role til I get her? I also dont have Armiger but if hes an uncommon it shouldnt take too long to find him with Mystery Shards. I have the rest of the characters.
Also, can you do a video where the characters have 3 and four star gear instead? I do have one six star set of Relentless but otherwise my main gear right now is around 3-5 mix of blues and purples with a few legendary level items.
Great vid! Learned a lot from your vids since starting 2,5 month ago. My only question is, is Apothecary a good sub for High Khatun? And can you give some non legendary substitutions for Scyl? Otherwise most people need to wait 3-4 month to use the team comps from many of your f2p vids.
Anyhow great content!
180 days in is still faster than most of f2p accs can do all dungeons s20 and I am speaking about players that somewhat understand the game
I agree, but I think it would be helpful to have a substitute to level until the 7th month for the progress. So you can already farm for higher gear instead of waiting until you reach 180 days and then start to progress. And once you get Scyl you can go for her, I totally agree.
But this substitution will help many f2p players to progress further in almost all content and in that way you will be able to use your resources much more efficient.
Once again great video HH! Like to see more of this for other dungeons.
@@agionek.3417 yep and dragon and ice golem is really easy as f2p i did mine versions there too(scyl can solo IG or scyl + ghrush even in not that great gear), but FK is a lot harder with free champs we get... that i didnt find any composition yet
Nothing is more annoying than fighting a long spider fight and get mystery shards or a brew for a reward 😬
You stop getting Mystery Shards and brews once you get to spider 16 and up. Sadly, the same can't be said for the potion dungeons.
@@voldemort008 Ok, I didnt know that, I'm only lv14.. But still annoying as hell:)
Could you replace Zephyr Sniper with Soulbond Bower when you get her? She may help Armiger with turn meter control and some extra damage.
You could but harder to ensure she becomes target
Idk why but i have kael lvl 60, kalvalax lvl 60 amd cant clear spider 10. The other 3 champs are ughr lvl 50, hexweaver 50, avir 50
2:30 AM and i got My arbitrer i almost give up, but thanks to this vídeo man, i got it, because i don't know what plarium Will do, My team rasin,Draco, aphoticary,drextar,coldhearth,
I'm curious are any of these dungeons do able without masteries? Most of my champions don't have full masteries if any and I feel that's my biggest downfall so far. Also love your videos hellhades they're always so very helpful thank you so much for all the time you invest into these videos etc
get your 5 most versatile champions on minotaur and multi battle. spend your energy until all of them have full masteries and everything else will be much easier.
@@Agostinho86 ya I will use gems before I waste my time in that shit show lol. Thanks for the advice though
Suggestion: try doing this with 4 star gear. Have to remember people are saying they can't do this content meaning they most likely can't reliably farm 5 star let alone 6 star, especially 6 star jewelry. I think if you did that it would be more realistic since you do have GH bonus as well as bloated stats from 5/6 star epic and lego gear. People in stages 13-19 dungeons generally have few 5 star and the majority of the 5 star is most likely farmed from campaign and is just common grey or uncommon green 5 star gear
You get 5 and 6 star at stage 13. I never invest in 4 star after week 1
Did you regear Armiger between the showcase and the fight? He doesn’t appear to be reducing the Max HP that Destroy gear would do. Seems a bit disingenuous if the gear used in the run isn’t what was actually used in the showcase.
Good tips nonetheless. Shame that the players who are struggling with Spider likely don’t have the gear to match what you have done here.
I honestly wonder if Visix would be good enough to replace an elfguard. If visix wasnt ascended I'd hope so.
BRILLIANT!!!! More please. Giving us FTP guys hope
I guess it's all about the gear and team stat balance. I still can't get over 13 Spider despite full masteries (HH guide) on my top Spider champs: Coldheart, Psylar, Septimus, Soulbound Bowyer, Apothecary and Lyssnadra...
We need a more overall guide, from team roles and stat balance between champs to gear needed.
Also need tips about the progression order, like first - Dragon up to N stage, then Spider, and so on.
I love the content HH. Just one thing that always bugs me, I would like to see the end of your boss fights for damage done stats, time completion, and (I don't know why) the item dropped. I know you skip ahead because you think its boring, but maybe just delay it til the end? Solid content as usual!
No matter what i try, i cant get the stats so high like u. Simply because i don’t have such artifacts ✌️
How long have you played for
20months
Use no banner and only 5star gear, that compensate ur max great hall 😉
Hello. I build this team and it doesn’t work. I spend a lot of time and silver for nothing.