How to Solo on "Giant Steps" by John Coltrane
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What song do you want to learn how to solo on?
Jeff Schneider Donna Lee
Or a medium swing piece like how high the moon or there will never be another you. I always feel like I start to lose meaning or direction when soloing on them.
Maybe Four, on the sunny side, or spiral
I Remember Clifford by Benny Golson
Lingus
This is literally a condensed version of an entire year at music school. Incredible.
Brilliant! This makes it so much clearer! I am a music teacher certified in a method called "The Kodaly Method," which is very based in singing and solfege. Finished the training like 10 years ago and always wanted to find more ways to apply it to my own jazz learning. I've dabbled on and off, but after watching this, I'm seeing how it can really help open up a tune like Giant Steps by reducing it to these very musical patterns (mrd, bebop scale fragment, drmst, etc.). Thank you for putting this video and the etude together!
We just gonna ignore Jeff's crazy low range?
That buttery smooth Bb1.
This etude helps you to see the underlying pattern of the shifting key centers. The first three bars outline an augmented triad with two drops of a Maj 3rd: Bmaj7 / Gmaj7 / Ebmaj7. At this point, the harmonic rhythm pauses from cut-time to regular as we sit on Ebmaj7 for a full measure and then take a full measure for ii-V to Gmaj7. Now we're back to the cut-time harmonic rhythm again, identical two drops of a Maj 3rd starting this time from Gmaj7 / Ebmaj7/ Bmaj7. Again, we sit on the Bmaj7 a full measure and take a full measure for the ii-V that will take us up a Maj 3rd to Ebmaj7 and the pattern will continue in regular-time harmonic rhythm with the ii-V's moving us up by major 3rds: We hit G, then B, then further up to Eb and the final ii-V taking us back down to B which is the head. Essentially the song is built on straight forward movement within an arpeggiated augmented chord made up of B, G, and Eb. Whether up or down, the key change is always a Maj 3rd away.
Best example of the harmony i have seen
Interestingly enough on " The best of J.C." the last song is Central Park West which is the slow ballad version of Giant Steps. As a ballad that underlining scale movement that sets up the key centers is just so important to the song as much more than an augmented cycle , it is a beautiful melody
The etude becomes much easier to sing by avoiding the chromatic passing notes in bars 1&2 and 5&6 (db between d and c etc.). They can be effectively substituted by the diatonic notes b, g, and eb/d# which happen to be the tonic notes of the preceding key (the one that's just being left) as well as the 6th/13th of the dominant chord leading into the following tonal center.
This is great! I watched a masterclass by Gary Pwacock and he said the same thing: a great advance in ear training is when you s next think of one note in the context of every chord. He considered this skill essential to playing bass well.
This is amazing. How many times I've listened to G.S. and wondered what the hell I would play over it (if I could), and not being able to afford to pay somebody for enough music lessons to get to the point of having this explained to me, feels like skipping the hard work and learning the genius stuff off the bat. I feel like Kim Jong Ill after he played golf for the first time, hit 9 holes-in-one, and decided he need play golf no more. Cheers!
whoah, your singing voice goes low! - that was down to a frigging 'B'?!
I can't even go down to a D lol
@@LiamAppelqvist hmmm i C what you did there
it's not that low of a note, but his voice's timbre in that register make it sound bassier than it really is
@@kikodasneves1 b1 is l o w
@@kikodasneves1 no man that's like a really low b you may be mistaking it with the b an octave up which his voice's timbre mistakingly makes it sound like because he is having so little trouble going down there
I watched your videos years ago and now I see these thoughs about singing, it's really an improvement for me
A good way of hearing the note relations is to use movable do. Just move the note you want to the scale degree it corresponds to. For example if the 3rd turns into the root then youd move your Mi to Do and then that would fix the relation in your head
Right now this is above my level, but i'm going to rewatch this in 3 months.
Great Concept! I definitely struggled with this tune when I first started learning it
Cool etude, great way to learn any tune for sure. Presumably you’d recommend being able to sing the bass notes and the melody as a first step..?
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I’m a drummer and I still really enjoyed this! Great stuff man
How to solo on Footprints !!
2:45 love him or hate him you gotta admit he's speaking straight facts
woah
he spitting
Thanks from Brazil!!! Great Chanel!
This is 1st time I understanding the solo of Giant steps. Most musicial example. Thank very much!!!!
Do how to solo over Maiden Voyage!
Great suggestion!
oh, man. simple piece. dorian scales ; ami dorian (g major scale) for the D7sus chord and CmiDorian (Bb major scale) for the F7sus chord, basically mixolydian scales (D mixolydian = G major (ionian), F mixolydian = Bb major (ionian)).. but think of it as a slash. i like to think of it as Ami (dorian)/D to Cmi (dorian)/F , can use those min. pentatonics too if u like.. common notes between the two dorian scales are - C,D,G,A, so can ride on those notes for melody /voice leading. hope this helps
Jimmy TheBold that helped me
"Georgia On My Mind" because idk how to solo with a blues feeling :P
@ Thanks, will try that
flat 5 = the blues note. use it.
Blues scale
beginners guide :
just play Db major scale over
( B maj - D7)
A major scale over the
( G maj 7 - Bb7 )
and F major scale over the
( Eb maj 7 - Gb7)
Those are the tricky passages.
Just try to start on chord tones.
and yu can add 1 half step.
If yu dont start on a chord tone then dont add the half step and it will even out...😉
Very informative film Jeff thanks. All the best from a tenor player in England.
This is so cool, thank you for this wonderful, smart lesson. Very relatable and lucid.
Jeff you GENIUS THANK YOU
This tutorial was gold for me! Thank you very much!
Very nice bro amazing 🎹💯💯💯blessings 😊🙏😎
AHHHHHH! Jeff, my brotha! I've been talking about singing over Giant Steps for years. Hell, on my crappy channel, I talk about singing through tunes while relating everything to the key signature--not each chord. It's the Charlie Banacos way. Anyway, glad to hear you telling everyone to sing through tunes. I'm a guitarist and singing was my gateway into really CONNECTING with the tunes I play and the solos I take over the tunes. It's a LONG process, but it's so much more interesting than doing Chord Scale Theory for the upteenth time... Hats off to you! My singing through Giant Steps is much worse than yours, but I might be able to put it together again to illustrate the key signature chromatic solfege approach. So that would mean hearing and singing Giant Steps in B major and using chromatics to account for all the cycles that occur in the key. This "one key" concept works because most tunes start in a home key, do some traveling to add tension, and then return home. Giant Steps is a great example of being home, taking a very colorful trip, and then returning home. Does this make sense? I hope so :) I could illustrate the Charlie Banacos way by singing your etude in his manner and posting it in reply to your video. Do I have your permission?
Why not Countdown? It has repeating chord changes a whole step lower like Tune Up
Great idea, very eye opening. It grasps the core of piece!
How to solo over lingus
E minor XD
Yeah there's nothing special about Lingus from a chord sequence point of view, it's just Cory's genius that takes it to that level.
@@samcooke343 Cory Henry is music theory sponge. The man is absolutely incredible.
Lingus' solo section has no harmony so there is no "right" way to solo on it
@@FrantzesElzaurdia Not really. As far as I know its an E minor 1 2 4 or something like that. I don't remember. but it is an 8 bar E minor form...
Thank you so much for this lesson, you are a blessing
You're a phenomenal musician. Do you play guitar also sir?
Hey Jeff! Would you make a video on techniques for imposing sub-progressions on chords using pentatonics like coltrane?
Thank you.
Hey Jeff! Thanks very much for the lesson, any chance of a new link as the backing track / sheet music seem to no longer be available? Thanks again!
The orange hair...we talk about it !
This is actually great, awesome series Jeff
Hei! Really nice lesson! You’re great! Thank you!
Awesome video, thanks! Requested this last time.
If you’re still taking requests, Jeff- Star Crossed Lovers- Duke Ellington. Awesome work, as always.
great practice, thanks!!
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good stuff! I found this video clarifying! I practice/play Steps as much as possible and learn something new about it every time I work it!PS:.The improv shown works somewhat as a bass line to a point! ;)
Very helpful! Thanks a lot~
easy: replace the B7 with A7 and you will see all of the 2-5-1's. it's easy. another thing is play the damn whole tone scale every once in a while. this is legit and you will sound legit if you do it.
don't get hung up on this shit. there are harder tunes to solo on.
Would be great if you could play the full solos at the end with your dope space sax, just to hear how it sounds
I play drums....
Why am I here?
Jk great vid, very informative and interesting :)
Thank you!!! Same to you.
REALLY big steps
When I learned GS on my soprano I sang the root notes of the harmony away from the piano/guitar until I had really internalised the harmony. Your approach of taking a line through the harmony is different. Is this easier than singing the root (or 3rds) through the form? Do you think that you hear the progression as well with this or with single notes such as roots?
Great question, Bill. I’d say my method here is easier (and thus, more effective) than singing only roots or only thirds. Jumping around from chord tone to chord tone in a tune like this can sound (and feel) awkward, especially when singing. My etude sets up the chord tones with a more melodic line and with fewer awkward intervals, which can be difficult to sing without the aid of an instrument. That said, being able to sing through with roots only is certainly worth practing as well!
Fabulous..
3:16 You ended up in Bb there m8
So useful!
Good stuff.....thank you
How to solo over "something" by the Beatles?
Not quite how to solo over giant steps but a good step one in internalizing the changes.
First step to learning how to solo on any tune is internalization of the harmony. Thanks for watching, Sam!
Love your videos jeff
Blue in Green or Donna Lee
I got the pdf opened in goodreader, but I hdvd no idea how to print? Help please. And thank you very much for the soloing ideas!!!
Thanks,
Bruce
Ctrl+P
Thanks. But I don’t use big computer. Only my iPhone, Jeff. That’s where my goodreader app is and there’s no icon to send to someone else via email and then have them print. So I guess I’m out of luck? This new technology is a bit much for old farts like me. I’m lucky to know how to find you on RUclips. So I’m grateful.
I’m 74 and not being a smart ass. I just don’t see way to send to a big computer from my phone. Which I do with lots of stuff I get of lessons from RUclips etc. I’m well aware that you can’t print on a phone.
If you are not jeff Schneider, please don’t reply to my concerns. Thank you.
@@brucejeric6701 Oh. Sorry, I wasn't meaning to offend you (no idea what I said, but my bad).
Also, I didn't know you couldn't print from phones. I figured I just didn't know what I was doing.
I'll stop now, so this will be the last reply. I just doubted Jeff would see your comment and tried to help.
Wait so I’m not allowed to just hold one note?!?!
I you can make people not get bored or cringe, you do your thing sir.
@@OscarGeronimo but my name is Kenny g
@@benjackson5340 then you'd better'd only play the note "G".
@@jimmythebold589 nah I prefer 'A' ruclips.net/video/uMiPkTqO6yQ/видео.html
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You could use the same melody over the bridge...
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2:10 encourages you to sing along 2:22 sings the lowest note I’ve ever heard
Too bad Flanagan didn't have RUclips.
@@popespalace823 It was a joke. Flanagan is a cool dude, I really like a lot of his other stuff. He just wasn't at his best during that recording session...
noice
This solo cant be played fast, try it and you will know whats wrong with it
i remember when these glasses were cool back in 2015
Jeff: hey guys I’m going to teach you how to improvise over giant steps
Jeff: so first learn how to sing giant steps
Me: ❓❓❓
Being able to sing something is IMMENSELY helpful in being able to play it.
@@adgp8945 extremely! in fact i sing when i improvise now! my fingers and brain are faster than my mouth, so anything i sing i can 'capture' with my hands, changes the way i play entirely!! also: body motion is extremely important. musicians who sit there stiff as a bolt, sound, well, stiff as a bolt... physical motion translates to emotion...
Giant steps='throw ALL the notes on a music sheet'.
Bro, you can play a didgeridoo and you'll still be safe 'soloing' on Giant steps
Hardly lol...
dont sing please... :(
Tu parles trop!!!!!!!