For those that think this talk is some dopy mumbo jumbo I suggest you pick up one of his books and read it. The guy is mind blowing in his depth, breath, and insight.
@9:49 "it's almost hard to find an example of language that is not metaphorical." this is quite interesting. what is the baseline distinction here, between literal and metaphorical language? did one emerge before the other? and how does meaning switch over time, like cultural shifts of irony and sincerity?
"Thinking abstractly", observing or noticing difference, is vital to the survival of an organism, but inclusive and holistic immersion in the principle of all connection is "home" in continuity.
This was brilliant and insightful, I am amazed by the comment sections, probably most of the people here hasn’t asked all the questions pinker is adres sing here, this is absolutely mind blowing
Just thought about this while he was speaking: subjective experience or consciousness is a very powerful adaptation tool for the individual. While instincts are VERY hard to morph and while physiology is basically set in stone, the conscious memory-thought construct allows for a fantastic and rapid change to input. It is obviously the motor behind social cooperation and behind tool conceptualization and design. (Just putting this out here)
I am very interested in human nature ,I am so amazed by recent findings of group think,in that how we follow leaders and groups against our own concepts of good. I know that experts can map out profiles of what human beings quite easily . I can see how leadership can abuse this. But subject goes on and on into many area's. we need more understanding that can help people understand our existence, Knowledge can chance everything in your life, but this subject can get clouded much like religion has, however good studies and data can remove the veils here's ,True knowledge means everything to me, there is much we can know that will change you immensly. It is great subject matter,and so important for all of us, It matters not what you believe you will have to fit true knowledge into your present believe system.
My psycholinguistics curriculum was covered on the conditioned rating parameter and thank divinity for following you as I wanted to give up on the academia of information.
I think symbols proper and mental representations offer a broader window to human nature, (language is of course symbols, but so are numbers and all manner of religious, scientific, economic, and ideological signs.)
Steven Pinker seems to have in mind that mind=what the mind grabs a hold of. Of course, by studying language, we can learn about an individual consciousness and what that consciousness think it knows, but that does not necessarily tell us what the nature of that consciousness -or consciousness in general- is.
Language tells us that consciousness has the power of language. Consciousness is the consciousness of reality, excepting modern mainstream intellectuals.
To be clear im talking about "Liberalism (from the Latin liberalis) the belief in liberty and equality." Different from Libertarianism "supporting a society with little or no government power."
Excuse me, could someone tell me please... the transcrip written here doesn't contain all the words he said right? it's just a little fragment isn't it? sorry I have a homework about this video...
if there are no souls, how do you explain appearances of ghost of deceased people as seen/testified by many people? how do you explain the voice of ghost that has been captured in audio recording devices? i believe the number of people experiencing paranormal stuff is not merely a hallucination.
English (as opposed to books that were painstakingly manually transcribed in Latin by scribes one at a time only for the education of the children of nobles and royalty)
It depends on "power of the state" It could be unfair or unjust power to the criminal court system Or what I think you are trying to describe is over regulation I personally support regulating industry to a degree, and reform for the justice system, preferably for rehabilitation more than punishment.
Examples of why the American founders were not Liberals or Democrates? "the names of the laws that are trying to be passed that will turn the country into a police state" -- The Patriot Act, and SOPA come to mind, laws which remove a person's rights, i.e. "Freedom of Speech", and of Association. The government took away many "Freedom of Association" laws back in the 1950's and 1960's.
So, are dolphins as 'human' as the human because they also have a very complex mechanism of communication? So, what differentiate us from others animals is language?Thus, nothing separate us from animals them.
A one world government would be the ultimate power. No external opposition. If it develops into a tyranny or dictatorship there is no where to go. No exile to organize resistance. It could only be overthrown from the inside and this could take many decades. And maybe it's already to late then. There is a book called "brave new world". In this book the tyranny is eternalized because those who could bring change profit from the system and those who want change are not able to act.
there is a deep language that i suspect starts at the cellular level. Ive seen animals and even insects react at the moment i intended to do something with them or to them. It may sound silly, but i just noticed it too many times and not wanting to submit my mind to spiritual thinking i forced myself to think of another way explanation. Only thing that can explain how something like this can occur is that there is a basic language that can be communicated at long distances with electromagnetic waves, perhaps nature has been already doing this at the cellular level? now how can you connect cellular activity with the mind? the bacteria in your gut. maybe when you kiss and have sex and share food you share your bacteria with each other, and somehow we can send some forms of information of each other like our current state of mind, ie fear/lust/longing (think of people that think of you before you call). if bacteria can send Electromagnetic signals that can be picked up by another bacteria then maybe our mind entails more levels of awareness that we are unaware of... ironically.... we are unaware of our awareness???
But if you say you are moving the meeting from 3 to 4 dont you refere to the clock and moving the pointer from the place were the 3 is to the place where 4 is? And then its not a metaphore? Ps. Drinking a beer with pinker is my dream
I don't know if I said this before but everything in moderation, and unfortunately the media always like to look at the extremists from every ideology. Also if we can talk about ideologies with them all done in moderation these would be a list of a basic agenda for Social Democrats legal entitlements for citizens that include -workers' compensation, -universal health care -universal education, -child care and care for the elderly. -collective bargaining rights for workers.
there's a differnce between the classical liberal ideology and the modern leftist ideology in the US that goes by the name of "liberalism" although when you examine it you find that it's a lot of things but "liberal" in the sense of "free" it is not.
Psychologists dedicate their lives to answer questions such as the one you just presented- for what purpose do human beings engage in any form of behavior at all? Your insinuation is that the natural sciences have a definite value whereas psychology does not, whereas I would merely propose the question: what is responsible for our varying accounts of value at all? Such is a question pertaining towards human nature- of which your half witted tirade of oriented preferences exemplifies as well.
Has he heard of Terrence McKenna, what about visible language and the trans linguistic material, sounds silly but still something about history plus nature and stufffff.
The only reason 'left liberalism' (by that i presume you mean modern liberalism) came to exist was to serve the ideals of liberalism. The goals are the same.
I think , human kind was influenced by herd rules and regulations ,then they prone to follow even a single trend used by someone even if he just made it for his own philosophy . There for by time others tend to follow such a trends to feel adherence to the group
Ahh, language. Reminds me of how Latin, now a dead language, was more or less the language of the bourgeoisie, a language taught only to the rich to keep illiterate farmers and commoners ignorant of higher learning and therefore enslaved to their lots in life via the omission of knowledge resources. That's why Geoffrey Chaucer and English rise to such prominence with the invention of the printing press. His Canterbury Tales and the cheap, mass produced nature of books via the printing press in
I think yo're right about the state and the fact that self proclaimed "liberals" here in the USA are anything but. However please be polite and logical.
What other species can communicate at the level of abstraction and/or intention as humans? This includes being have metalinguistic awareness and awareness of the minds of others and their interactions with yours? What species has anything comparable to what we call human language?
Scientists don't usually talk in certainties. 'We have found evidence in support of'... is about as certain as it gets. If something has enough evidence, it becomes a 'Law', but even those are arguable. Thats part of the problem with climate change debate. People who aren't really scientists have no problem speaking in definite terms, "Studies show climate change is not caused by people", while scientists at best can say "we've found evidence in support of human caused climate change".
twoskoop Yes, I am aware of that. Sometimes I wish they would take a stronger stance on global warming, as it gives the skeptics too much wiggle room to deny their way out of everything, but that's not how scientists operate. I singled Pinker out because I feel in the hotly disputed area of consciousness he is given to making statements that verge on certainties - e.g. on free will, human nature, evolutionary psychology.
That's merely looking at one side of the argument, the United States, first off, was founded on what we tend to call nowadays Libertarian ideals, maximum freedom where the government does not intervene, something that is Liberal AND Conservative. America is HARDLY a democracy, more of a we-pay-you-to-keep-your-mouth-shut-and-do-our-dirtyworkocracy. Capitalism? Maybe, however that's more or less subjective to how you feel as a Capitalist.
We're worried about you. You need to stop this "First" thing. This isn't actually a bigthink video, behind you are your family and friends... They've prepared speeches.
Maybe some airy Harvard types commonly say "if you could pass me the salt, that would be great". The rest of us just blurts "can you pass me the salt please?" and think nothing of it.
Lolwut? Marxism relies on the idea that human nature doesn't exist or is totally malleable. Pinker wrote a book called "The Blank Slate" arguing against exactly that.
I'm not sure what he means by "left liberalism", but I have noticed that some liberals tend to hate evolutionary psychology, human nature, etc. Ideally we should accept good ideas - and ideas that are true - regardless if they come from the right or the left.
After listening and paying close attention to Steven Pinker I would have to say and consider an appropriate quote by Bruce H.Lipton. Deism is the belief that nature and God are one and the same thing. If you study nature, you're getting insights about God. My question is? Is this a cop-out? Not to mention, leaving the part of "FAITH" out.
It’s how’s great been with many as the leaders thoughts in my opinion , clear, sharp pains catalyst hurting crystal in memory. I’m sorry 😊, I hope how we’re together organizations to supporting and I love square with curves at the corner . Not too much sharper but more tenderness please ☺️. As women we are in bound with your life care and saving everyone .
Wouldn't you turn to other species to understand human nature? We are related to apes, we are ape-like, and doesn't that reality underpin our basic motivations?
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For those that think this talk is some dopy mumbo jumbo I suggest you pick up one of his books and read it. The guy is mind blowing in his depth, breath, and insight.
His breath is mind blowing? Yuck.
@@Awibrahor hahaha, what next a fart joke?
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I bet you meant ‘breadth’. 😉
His bread, he is a baker now 😅🤣
@@Awibrahor Thank you grammar scold, my life is so much the richer for your correction.
Harvard, MIT...a little Stanford. Methinks this guy aint no dummy.
One of Canada's finest exports. Hahaha.
Go Pinker! After reading The Blank Slate and The Better Angels of Our Nature I can safely say that he's my personal favourite scientist.
this guy actually made me think about a new topic. thats refreshing!
@9:49 "it's almost hard to find an example of language that is not metaphorical." this is quite interesting. what is the baseline distinction here, between literal and metaphorical language? did one emerge before the other? and how does meaning switch over time, like cultural shifts of irony and sincerity?
"Thinking abstractly", observing or noticing difference, is vital to the survival of an organism, but inclusive and holistic immersion in the principle of all connection is "home" in continuity.
This was brilliant and insightful, I am amazed by the comment sections, probably most of the people here hasn’t asked all the questions pinker is adres sing here, this is absolutely mind blowing
Just thought about this while he was speaking: subjective experience or consciousness is a very powerful adaptation tool for the individual. While instincts are VERY hard to morph and while physiology is basically set in stone, the conscious memory-thought construct allows for a fantastic and rapid change to input. It is obviously the motor behind social cooperation and behind tool conceptualization and design.
(Just putting this out here)
Harvard, MIT, Stanford... Dude, ¡respect!
I am very interested in human nature ,I am so amazed by recent findings of group think,in that how we follow leaders and groups against our own concepts of good.
I know that experts can map out profiles of what human beings quite easily . I can see how leadership can abuse this. But subject goes on and on into many area's. we need more understanding that can help people understand our existence, Knowledge can chance everything in your life, but this subject can get clouded much like religion has, however good studies and data can remove the veils here's ,True knowledge means everything to me, there is much we can know that will change you immensly. It is great subject matter,and so important for all of us, It matters not what you believe you will have to fit true knowledge into your present believe system.
We follow leaders because of our concept of good.
I know this is off topic from the video but why are some of the vids on the side privet?
It would be a shame if something happened to your etchings upstairs, if you didn't pass the salt..
My psycholinguistics curriculum was covered on the conditioned rating parameter and thank divinity for following you as I wanted to give up on the academia of information.
Just subscribed 🙏
Whats your book, I want to buy it !
I agree with you completely, i never said that the US is anywhere close to what it used to be when it was founded.
I think symbols proper and mental representations offer a broader window to human nature,
(language is of course symbols, but so are numbers and all manner of religious, scientific, economic, and ideological signs.)
He is a GENIUS!!!!!!!
Great listening to this
"Hey baby, why don't you come take a look at my etchings." *wink, wink*
Steven Pinker seems to have in mind that mind=what the mind grabs a hold of. Of course, by studying language, we can learn about an individual consciousness and what that consciousness think it knows, but that does not necessarily tell us what the nature of that consciousness -or consciousness in general- is.
Language tells us that consciousness has the power of language. Consciousness is the consciousness of reality, excepting modern mainstream intellectuals.
najjače je kad završi sa pitanjem i posao prepusti tebi :DD
To be clear im talking about "Liberalism (from the Latin liberalis) the belief in liberty and equality." Different from Libertarianism "supporting a society with little or no government power."
Thats it, I´m getting his books.
You are testimony to my only primer in life Àll are born GENIUS
I need to go to Harvard. I need to transform my mind. Unlock the next level.
You need to clean those God damn toilets.
Don Draper How did it go??
Excuse me, could someone tell me please... the transcrip written here doesn't contain all the words he said right? it's just a little fragment isn't it? sorry I have a homework about this video...
"...Shame if something should happen to it," isnt veiled. If anything, it's even more menacing.
I don't know why, but the way this guy talks reminds me of Jim Carrey's "Stefano the Italian man" from A Series of Unfortunate Events 🤣🤣
love the ucsb shout out
Can someone make a looping gif of 0:43 to 0:45.
Human being is the only species who is capable actively to code the languages with vocal sound. Language carries meanings come out or in our mind.
Sir sorry but I can’t do communicate this time, Highest respect to you
Question for Mrs. Pinker, what it is a core causality of words that makes a language comes out of a human?
Hah "Would you like to come up and see my etchings?"
"Would you like to come up and see my etchings?" =p
if there are no souls, how do you explain appearances of ghost of deceased people as seen/testified by many people? how do you explain the voice of ghost that has been captured in audio recording devices? i believe the number of people experiencing paranormal stuff is not merely a hallucination.
English (as opposed to books that were painstakingly manually transcribed in Latin by scribes one at a time only for the education of the children of nobles and royalty)
It depends on "power of the state"
It could be unfair or unjust power to the criminal court system
Or what I think you are trying to describe is over regulation
I personally support regulating industry to a degree, and reform for the justice system, preferably for rehabilitation more than punishment.
I have to close my eyes and let my brain fire all cylinders to understand Steven Pinker.
Examples of why the American founders were not Liberals or Democrates?
"the names of the laws that are trying to be passed that will turn the country into a police state" --
The Patriot Act, and SOPA come to mind, laws which remove a person's rights, i.e. "Freedom of Speech", and of Association. The government took away many "Freedom of Association" laws back in the 1950's and 1960's.
There was no cognitive revolution. Willhelm Wundt was a cognitive psychologist.
So, are dolphins as 'human' as the human because they also have a very complex mechanism of communication? So, what differentiate us from others animals is language?Thus, nothing separate us from animals them.
I would love to have a civilized conversation on why a planetary government is a bad idea.
Rather than people screaming NEW WORLD ORDER at each other.
A one world government would be the ultimate power. No external opposition. If it develops into a tyranny or dictatorship there is no where to go. No exile to organize resistance. It could only be overthrown from the inside and this could take many decades. And maybe it's already to late then. There is a book called "brave new world". In this book the tyranny is eternalized because those who could bring change profit from the system and those who want change are not able to act.
Dammmn! This man just described all the topics i mainly interested in -in the field of psychology.
Is there a universal human nature?
Noise is unwanted sound judged to be unpleasant, loud or disruptive to hearing
They have to start at some point as we did.
they both have trademark hair
there is a deep language that i suspect starts at the cellular level. Ive seen animals and even insects react at the moment i intended to do something with them or to them. It may sound silly, but i just noticed it too many times and not wanting to submit my mind to spiritual thinking i forced myself to think of another way explanation. Only thing that can explain how something like this can occur is that there is a basic language that can be communicated at long distances with electromagnetic waves, perhaps nature has been already doing this at the cellular level? now how can you connect cellular activity with the mind? the bacteria in your gut. maybe when you kiss and have sex and share food you share your bacteria with each other, and somehow we can send some forms of information of each other like our current state of mind, ie fear/lust/longing (think of people that think of you before you call). if bacteria can send Electromagnetic signals that can be picked up by another bacteria then maybe our mind entails more levels of awareness that we are unaware of... ironically.... we are unaware of our awareness???
Paul Reiser?
I feel there is some truth to that.
But if you say you are moving the meeting from 3 to 4 dont you refere to the clock and moving the pointer from the place were the 3 is to the place where 4 is? And then its not a metaphore? Ps. Drinking a beer with pinker is my dream
anton notna The clock is a metaphor of time...
I don't know if I said this before but everything in moderation, and unfortunately the media always like to look at the extremists from every ideology.
Also if we can talk about ideologies with them all done in moderation these would be a list of a basic agenda for Social Democrats
legal entitlements for citizens that include
-workers' compensation,
-universal health care
-universal education,
-child care and care for the elderly.
-collective bargaining rights for workers.
I said look behind you, not down.
there's a differnce between the classical liberal ideology and the modern leftist ideology in the US that goes by the name of "liberalism" although when you examine it you find that it's a lot of things but "liberal" in the sense of "free" it is not.
Wide eyed, open mouthed, Whoa.
they call me the referee cuz i be so official
Psychologists dedicate their lives to answer questions such as the one you just presented- for what purpose do human beings engage in any form of behavior at all? Your insinuation is that the natural sciences have a definite value whereas psychology does not, whereas I would merely propose the question: what is responsible for our varying accounts of value at all? Such is a question pertaining towards human nature- of which your half witted tirade of oriented preferences exemplifies as well.
Has he heard of Terrence McKenna, what about visible language and the trans linguistic material, sounds silly but still something about history plus nature and stufffff.
Carl Jung and Sigmund feud .
I am really like what he is talking about; using language to analyze the details of how humans tick, sounds weird, I know, but its in a nice way.
I'm not one I like some of Mark Twain's work , especially his "what is man ", for a glimpse into Human Nature.
The only reason 'left liberalism' (by that i presume you mean modern liberalism) came to exist was to serve the ideals of liberalism. The goals are the same.
as well as clear cut christian ideas don't forget that my friend
I think , human kind was influenced by herd rules and regulations ,then they prone to follow even a single trend used by someone even if he just made it for his own philosophy . There for by time others tend to follow such a trends to feel adherence to the group
I do suppose you're talking about Classical Liberalism and not "liberalism" in the modern U.S. sense of the word?
Can you give me some examples? And the names of the laws that are trying to be passed that will turn the country into a police state.
Survival.
Nice fro bro
Ahh, language. Reminds me of how Latin, now a dead language, was more or less the language of the bourgeoisie, a language taught only to the rich to keep illiterate farmers and commoners ignorant of higher learning and therefore enslaved to their lots in life via the omission of knowledge resources. That's why Geoffrey Chaucer and English rise to such prominence with the invention of the printing press. His Canterbury Tales and the cheap, mass produced nature of books via the printing press in
I think yo're right about the state and the fact that self proclaimed "liberals" here in the USA are anything but. However please be polite and logical.
i don't think it is distinctly human though.
What other species can communicate at the level of abstraction and/or intention as humans? This includes being have metalinguistic awareness and awareness of the minds of others and their interactions with yours? What species has anything comparable to what we call human language?
+t0nda Please google for "prairie dogs language" and tell me whether this alters your opinion.
Me thinks op might be right...
Yes, freedom of religion and whatnot.
So essentially Pinker doesn't know.
Scientists don't usually talk in certainties. 'We have found evidence in support of'... is about as certain as it gets. If something has enough evidence, it becomes a 'Law', but even those are arguable. Thats part of the problem with climate change debate. People who aren't really scientists have no problem speaking in definite terms, "Studies show climate change is not caused by people", while scientists at best can say "we've found evidence in support of human caused climate change".
twoskoop
Yes, I am aware of that. Sometimes I wish they would take a stronger stance on global warming, as it gives the skeptics too much wiggle room to deny their way out of everything, but that's not how scientists operate. I singled Pinker out because I feel in the hotly disputed area of consciousness he is given to making statements that verge on certainties - e.g. on free will, human nature, evolutionary psychology.
"The more you learn the more you realize the search for distilled truth is a quest into infinity."
-Mommy
valar 4 years later. Little did you know.
what is it
i think you confuse classical liberals with modern "liberals", it just comes to show how language can be manipulated
That's merely looking at one side of the argument, the United States, first off, was founded on what we tend to call nowadays Libertarian ideals, maximum freedom where the government does not intervene, something that is Liberal AND Conservative. America is HARDLY a democracy, more of a we-pay-you-to-keep-your-mouth-shut-and-do-our-dirtyworkocracy. Capitalism? Maybe, however that's more or less subjective to how you feel as a Capitalist.
Pearls before swine
your comment add nothing to the conversation and has no relation to the video, so no
Only if mean by "liberal" classical liberal instead of progressive or democrat.
We're worried about you. You need to stop this "First" thing.
This isn't actually a bigthink video, behind you are your family and friends... They've prepared speeches.
Left liberalism goes along with those as well. You cant walk and run at the same time.
Michio Kaku, No Michio v,..,v
agree... mirin jaw line
Maybe some airy Harvard types commonly say "if you could pass me the salt, that would be great". The rest of us just blurts "can you pass me the salt please?" and think nothing of it.
It's called "Everybody Poops," and available at fine bookstores everywhere.
Lolwut? Marxism relies on the idea that human nature doesn't exist or is totally malleable. Pinker wrote a book called "The Blank Slate" arguing against exactly that.
I'm not sure what he means by "left liberalism", but I have noticed that some liberals tend to hate evolutionary psychology, human nature, etc.
Ideally we should accept good ideas - and ideas that are true - regardless if they come from the right or the left.
After listening and paying close attention to Steven Pinker I would have to say and consider an appropriate quote by Bruce H.Lipton. Deism is the belief that nature and God are one and the same thing. If you study nature, you're getting insights about God. My question is? Is this a cop-out? Not to mention, leaving the part of "FAITH" out.
He has excellent diction.
bigpink
why don't you go tell them about it.
Nice questions, no answers. Great advertisement!
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Went to buy some of his books
It’s how’s great been with many as the leaders thoughts in my opinion , clear, sharp pains catalyst hurting crystal in memory. I’m sorry 😊, I hope how we’re together organizations to supporting and I love square with curves at the corner . Not too much sharper but more tenderness please ☺️. As women we are in bound with your life care and saving everyone .
Gimme the salt -_-
Not today!
Wouldn't you turn to other species to understand human nature? We are related to apes, we are ape-like, and doesn't that reality underpin our basic motivations?
My comment has nothing to do with trolling