The Insane Esports Legend You've Never Heard Of.
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- Опубликовано: 9 май 2021
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Atrioc brings us so much history because he’s lived through most of it
Oh, I get it, because he's old
Personally I'm excited for the Sacking of Rome Storytime video
I’m ready for him to tell us about the rise and fall of the Roman Empire from a commoner’s viewpoint like himself
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I'm ready for him to tell us how he grew legs as a fish
You know it’s an Atrioc story
A.) he’s in a foreign country
B.) he’s broke as a joke and can’t afford any food
C.) he did something that pissed his dad off
D.)all of the above
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yes. atlanta is a foreign country
@@raymin5619 Georgia is a foreign country, checkmate
His dad wasn’t mad at him in the shin splints story
@@Materialist39 Im from Georgia and we consider ourselves separate from California
I’m fucking amazed that atrioc made me somewhat understand what was happening in this Starcraft match
Right? I was the biggest Blizzard fanboy, I was playing every original b.net game, and yet I had zero idea how starcraft worked and I've never played either game. Somehow I followed this really well.
@@TraxisOnTheLines and yet you have no idea how hard it is to do and how much stress is involved in games like this in normal casual games let alone global finals .
Honestly Starcraft isn't that hard to understand! It's a little less intuitive than something like CS:GO, but I'd actually say it's easier to understand than something like League or Dota!
it is not that complicated
it's really not as crazy complex as people make it at least at a high level. it pretty much comes down to whoever secures the most money and takes the best unit trades over the course of a game ends up winning. more beats less is really the most basic concept in starcraft and if it looks like somebody has more guys, bases, and structures than their opponent then you can understand who is winning.
Everything this man said is correct.
"Starcraft is the hardest game" is extra correct.
"The default is that Flash wins" is super extra correct.
"artosis is trash" is ultra-mega-ultima-extreme correct
@@Hephera trash is definitely 100 times better than me.
@@Hephera As someone who watches his streams, Artosis does get in to S-tier rank quite often now. But compared to actual StarCraft pros, yeah he's still trash. StarCraft pros are just godlike status.
@@lorne7218 They eat sleep and breathe that game.
@@xavierlehew6746 I have a clear example for how far top of the top are. Zerg mirror matchup is Rock Paper Scissors on paper, due to the fact that 3 openings counter one another. Jaedong, who is the best Zerg player, has 70% winrate in RPS, playing so much better he sometimes had beaten Rock with Scissors.
Atrioc's becoming the leading gaming historian
I can't wait for him to run out of things to say about gaming and slowly start going back through history until the big bang
thorin shaking in his boots
Ryan White, Karl Jobst, Summoning Salt, Jon Bois.
Jaedong quitted so rn i think Serral is the best
i mean it is not exactly accurate or that old / unknown
Damn can’t wait for Atrioc telling us about the French Revolution and his experience there
sacking of rome maybe
And how important his presence was there to cheer the French people up, when they were just told to eat cake instead of bread.
Bro definitely consoled napolean
As a Korean who literally grew up with Starcraft since my father introduced me to the game in 97’, it’s interesting to see Korean Starcraft league in “foreigner’s” perspective. I think a lot of Koreans would enjoy your videos too if there was Korean subtitle.👍👍
Interesting, since it came out in '98...
@@frederiknelving2723 broodwar was 98 but SC came out first
@@bradenbradshaw3587 The base game also came out in 98. OP probably misremembered the year.
@@BedroomPianist That is a real case of the Mandela effect for me. I always remember buying Brood War in the store in 1998, but would swear that I was playing StarCraft in 1997, and even picture the copyright text for original StarCraft saying 1997.
I swear atrioc’s consistency on youtube is unmatched. Not a single person puts out as many bangers as this man
Id say connoreatspants is just as consistent
@@harrisonarons563 But not as good :)
Backed with photo proof
his mods do an incredible job
@@harrisonarons563 I agree
For Korean Starcraft fans, this was one of the greatest starcraft duel in history of starcraft. The story, the players involved, all were perfect.
The mic assist was the most king shit I have ever seen. What a guy.
Two uploads in one day? Now that’s the atrioc difference
Suggests no marketing Monday with burgzy tho
But no upload yesterday? It's like when stores raise the base price of a product before discounting it back to its original price.
That’s the GRINDSET
i think that's cuz timezones
Classic Big A
Moon is a legend! Before attempting to conquer sc2, Moon was considered the greatest player that had ever touched Warcraft 3. He was so good that people gave him a nickname 'the Fifth Race' (like BW, wc3 has 4 different races) to describe his dominance in the game.
well he pretty much invented night elves ye
BW has three races, Terran, Zerg and Protoss. But you're forgiven, WC3 noob ;)
@@wololo696969 maybe he counted flash as 4th race :)
there is no need to feel bad for him.. he is the GOAT.. just in another game.. funny how he casually just met him in a hotel room tho
UM EXCUSE ME BUT MARU IS THE ONLY EXTRA RACE I WILL EVER ACCEPT
Update: Artosis hit S rank in Brood War about a month ago. He is now one of the best players in the world after over 20 years of playing.
"It's just point and click, aren't fps games harder because of aiming?"
What is aiming if not pointing and clicking?
I mean it is a bit different, but also the comment is wrong. There are both aiming and point-and-click interactions in Star Craft. Also the fact that you are controlling dozens of units at a time in different locations
Ugh I hate it when FPS players bring this up. Pointing and clicking isn't even something that requires decision making. FPS skill is literally correlated with skill whilst MOBAs and other RTS have it correlated to IQ. Creating an aimbot is so easy compared to what they've had to do with DotA and Starcraft. It quite literally takes much more resources to replicate decision making. Now deciding when to push and angle and choosing which direction to kite in or to evade in or whether to heal, now that's something worth talking about.
Starcraft requires the same precision as fps games on top of all the macro, and strategic decision making and reaction times
@@deeman010gdj 'correlated to IQ' lmao
Also I'm not sure if you understnad what 'skill' is, it s a broad term
@@mareksicinski3726 yea and if you weren't thick headed you'd read between the lines and understand that I'm saying point + click = low skill because it's easy to replicate with a machine.
Wow the guy who helped hold the mike seemed nice
july zerg is the most pure gamer to ever live
Starcraft reminds me of an irl sport, there is just no ceiling whatsoever. A generational talent in star craft is equivalent to like a Messi or LeBron, its just that deep of a game
@Qimodis Solved games have a clear cieling. Games that through computer simulation could be solved also have a theoretical. IRL sports kinda don't? But that's less because of the game itself and more because players and teams basically running on randomized specs.
It has a ceiling, it’s just impossible to reach.
Irl sports don’t have a ceiling because people could always be a little stronger/faster
@@YT7mc Nobody will ever run 100 meters in 5 seconds.
@@YT7mc the human body has limits
@@YT7mc this is more of an argument for the ceiling being higher in Starcraft than it is in physical sports. The ceiling in most world record events have been reached, and the margins that they get broken by are so small that they're generally more attributable to advances in technology than increased physical prowess. Swimming records broken because suits are less resistant and lighter. Running shoes are leaps and bounds better than they were years ago. In almost every sport the theoretical ceiling has either been hit, or is very close. No matter how hard you train, the human body has physical limitations. No amount of training or god-tier genetics will make someone run 40mph. However, the ceiling in Starcraft has continued to be pushed by every generation in some new way. Even after two decades we're not even close to the ceiling that people can reach in Starcraft and the game is still evolving today. It is the literal embodiment of real time chess, the game is so incredibly deep that reaching the absolute peak will probably never happen.
As korean this is 10000% accurate, Bisu means in korean, Dagger, and im sure he put dagger in flash's heart that day
Such a cool name
Just like he put a dagger in Savior's heart
One thing that I think was missing here is how BW has one of the most jankiest irresponsive unit control that will never be patched ever, and I love it. Being able to make a dragoon/goliath move up a narrow ramp is taxing but at the same time rewarding.
Yes. Considering a lot of people may have experience with sc2 and possibly other, newer rts games (by the way, if you've played wc3 and thought it has bad pathing/control, sc1 is like that, but much worse. In terms of how fluid and easy to use the control scheme is, sc2 is to wc3 what wc3 is to sc1) and not brood war, it can be hard to understand how insane of a game brood war is - unit selection is limited to 12 units, you can't select multiple buildings at once, pathing is atrocious (if you really want to see how deep it goes, check out the video "StarCraft: Brood War Pathfinding and Micro with Day[9]
"), but with more involved control, can be improved. I'm not even remotely experienced in BW, I just played it a little when I was younger and I know how hard BW made it to do what sc2's control scheme made so simple.
I've never played BW before, only SC2. So when SC:R came out, I atleast wanted to play through the campaign (which is really fun btw). When I was a kid and even later on I played lots of older games, like AoE 2, Settlers 3, C&C Red Alert etc.
But ffs, getting my Dragoons over a long bridge in one of the protoss missions was one of the hardest things I ever had to do in a RTS and there wasn't even an enemy. My mind probably exaggerates, but it felt like I was stuck for solid 5 minutes in front of that damn bridge until I got like my 10 dragoons over :D
Why does atrioc look better at 85 than he did at 18 in that interview
People have much better makeup and lighting now than they did in the 1930s when the interview was filmed
Dude, your energy and passion for what's going on makes these videos so interesting. I only ever play Zerg Hex when I SC2 but your way of explaining what's going on has got me into watching the game more and more. So TY.
Bisu is a god, he completely reinvented PvZ with his corsair opening. from 60 percent wr against protoss to a 40 percent. Brood war was an amazing game to watch
thought you meant plants vs zombies at first ngl
Flash has 70% wr on all races tho
@@michaeldevera6285 He wasn't talking about Bisu's WR. He was talking about all protoss and zerg matchups.
It's still great to watch. The game is forever evolving. Last ASL we had a zerg v zerg match that went late game with defilers, hydras, lurkers, ultralisks. Probably the greatest starcraft game ever played to date. It was Action vs Effort in ASL 16 on AfreecaTV eSports channel.
Yo for real, genuinely enjoyed this video a ton. Listening to and impassioned fan talk about older esports, while giving the background in an easy to understand manner *chef's kiss*. Never played or watched starcraft, but genuinely enjoyed the content. (watched the first 7 minutes like 50 times). Keep it up big A, would love to see more content like this.
I watched that match streamed at home in the afternoon (time zone difference). Since then I moved to Korea and managed to see some of the classic players in smaller Brood War tournaments. This game is insane. It's really a shame that Blizzard seemingly have no intention of open sourcing it after 23 years...
i’ve never been so invested into a game i’d never in my life think i’d care about lmao
I got into watching broodwar (thats how a lot of people call the first starcraft) and starcraft 2 this year and it's become just one of my favorite things in my life rn. I love Big A, but there's one thing that bothers me about how he talks about broodwar like its dead. Its not, the scene is just very insular. You can watch a tournament in progress right now with English commentary from Artosis and Tasteless
sorry for big comment i just love this shit and will share everything i know in a heartbeat to any sympathetic ears
@@SeverusVergiliusMaro this is probably one of the easiest audiences to evangelize to Starcraft so I think you’re in good company
@@Materialist39 Well, then! Allow me to evangelize the people!
Link to great day in the current big tournament for those interested: ruclips.net/video/CgLwTMAgvBU/видео.html
That's a link to Tastosis' (Artosis and Tasteless) commentary on the biggest Broodwar Tournament series: ASL (Afreecatv Star League). This is an on-going tournament in Korea so you can get in on the action--though that link isn't the of the most recent games, it's just my favorite day of the ro. 16 so far with a lot of matchup variety. Highly recommend trying it out. The commentary is actually incredibly well done--Tastosis have been casting games in Korea for over a decade. I cannot stress how accessible and entertaining it is. Whenever it's in season, my 65 year old Dad and I watch it every night--believe me he is not a gamer, but he loves the commentary and the game.
As for the scene and game itself, like Melee it's still living, changing, and brilliant. Literally last week, a new way to micro (manipulate the movement and attack) carriers was discovered increasing their DPS in some situations by like 70%. Last tournament, Flash played as RANDOM for the tournament and made it to the round of 4 just for kicks; but this year Flash just joined the military for his required two-year service and there are like 5 viable candidates to win the tournament now (sorry not-sorry Queen fans).
Also, not-much offense to Big A, but calling a game in 2010 "The Last Game" is kinda cringe. It's basically like leaving the Melee scene after Brawl and then calling RoM "The Last Tournament." Just... just NO.
TL;DR! Link to some exciting games of the current tournament. The commentary is so good my 65 year old Dad watches it. Scene is still very, very alive--even the foreign one.
why not
i was actually there with a bunch of other fans from TeamLiquid for that proleague finals. i may have been there with you, Atrioc. Flash was supposed to be the one to bring victory to KT, but he lost his first match against Fantasy in an INSANE TvT matchup. despite that, he volunteered himself for the ace match. he literally told the coach "i have to carry this burden" because HE WAS THE BEST SC PLAYER ON THE PLANET. this was despite the map having a crazy imbalanced PvT winrate for the protoss (think Protoss had like 80% winrate). thats why the loss was so painful for Flash because he lost 2 games in one day when throughout the rest of the season he would MAYBE lose ONE game every 2 months, and that ended up costing the team the Proleague championship.
to an outsider, what Atrioc is saying may sound like exaggeration from an overly excited fan, but trust me, Starcraft IS the hardest game out there.
like, the best of the best players can literally tell what build you are going for just from counting how many workers you have, or whether you have 2 attacking units or 3. or if your building timing is 10 seconds off, they immediately compute that and lay out like 5 possible build orders or strategies that you may be attempting. they are THAT. GOOD. and you need more than just complete understanding of the game down to the second to get good. you need to physically keep up with high APM (usually in the 300s) to be in the A/S tier. players have literally sweated in air-conditioned booths playing a single game for 40 minutes.
2 UPLOADS IN 1 DAY⁉️ ATRIOC IS POPPING OFFF
Didn’t upload yesterday his first today was just yesterday’s late
@@xipper3550 oh well it’s still pretty cool
Very funny hearing "We Don't Talk About Uno" after Encanto just came out lol
This guy's genuine passion and joy from all the great memories is infectious and makes me smile.
There are players breaking the APM barriers even Flash and Jaedong set. This game will continue to evolve so long as there are pros to play it. The actual peak of performance in Starcraft hasn't been reached, not by a long shot.
Like who? No, there isn’t. There’s spamming and then there’s effective APM, it’s real easy to spam high APM but I promise anyone reading, if your effective APM is consistently higher than your opponents, you’ll beat them. That’s why Flash has not been dethroned as the most dominant pro in any game, ever.
And a lot of people used to think that when you get in your 30’s you’d be washed up. Too slow to compete. That has been disproven.
He has not been dethroned stats and career numbers wise. But there are most definitely players that are in better shape that can beat him on a consistent basis right now like snow and soulkey. He was out for mandatory military service and has injuries because Terran is the most taxing race on the wrists. Aging absolutely does affect your performance and that has not been disproven, dont know why you'd argue otherwise, starcraft is not just being smarter than the other player, you physically have to be able to keep up and be able to put in the hours to stay in shape. @@mgs85
Also im pretty sure either Julyzerg or Nada had set the EAPM record a long long time ago, around 400. Most pros play at around 200.
I loved how he told the story of that game, it was one of the greatest comebacks in starcraft broodwar's history, and what made it more special was the circumstances, how important that game was. I loved all these stories told with so much passion.
Its me, I'm the insane Esports legend that you've never heard of.
not even true bro its me
Is this the REAL JACK ADAMS?!!?!?
No. *I* am the insane esports legend that you’ve never heard of
Funny thing about Flash being known as a macro player is that very very early on he was an up and coming cheesy player
Can you commentate over battles of Vietnam please it must’ve been crazy in person, would love to hear the 1st person perspective!
Playing SC top tier is like playing 20 league characters, 4 games of chess and Bloons all at once
HIM PATTING HIS SHOULDER IS SO WHOLESOME!
When you tell a story it really is with passion, that makes everything interesting. very good video.
Don't know Atrioc, but this video had the quality of being pulled into a complete other world for a second to experience something you 100% would have missed out on. Also wholesome af. Thanks man.
Some of the most fun and engaging story-telling I've heard in a long time. And it clearly shows how passionate Atrioc is about this, man is almost about to cry reliving this moment. And I'm sitting here almost crying with him. This was epic!
Such amazing stories. Very nice to hear you talk about them, man.
I'd honestly love more stories like this. Just putting it out there
fun fact, HuK's birthday on his wikipedia page is listed as "1989-1990." Like he's some kind of little league baseball player from the Dominican Republic or something. Apparently Team Liquid, Wikipedia and HuK himself don't know his birthday and if he somehow reads this comment I would love to get the backstory behind this.
IIRC huk had a pretty rough upbringing so this doesn’t surprise me
@@Materialist39 oh I had no idea. Maybe I shouldn't have made this a joke then.
Pretty sure thats cause Koreans list their date of bird from the date of impregnation (sex) and not birth. So he probably has both his western and Korean dob's listed.
I'm so glad to see an RTS game getting this much attention and praise, even just for 20 minutes to some people.
really enjoyed this video, would love more stories like this
This video bangs, we'd love more stories like this
I still remember watching this match live back in the day. Man the nostalgia from this video... Never thought Flash would lose. Loved Bisu from day 1 so it was great to see him beat flash for once.
THEY HAD TO INTENTIONALLY CHANGE THE MAP POOL FOR TWO SEASONS JUST TO NERF FLASH. THERE IS NO ONE AS GOOD AT ANYTHING IN THE WORLD THAN FLASH AT STARCRAFT.
Edit: Guys please god watch the Day9 intro to Starcraft remastered where he talks about bisu it’s so good. If you like Melee you are already on board 1000%
Dude you earned yourself new sub... and DUDE YOU NAILED IT OMG... I remember those moments and I actualy remember You from those interviews amazing
More esports stories would be sick king, insider industry content and atrioc history is by far my favorite content that really only you can put out (aside from unbreakable hitman records)
No joke your storytelling was actually so good, i don't know shit about starcraft but somehow you had me so invested
I can't believe big A held hands with Julyzerg, Pog.
I remember that SKT and KT series fondly. The amount of envy i feel that you got to see it live...
Also, that Dreamhack Hostel is legendary, some great stories start there. Makes me miss SOTG and inControl all over again. I thought I recognized your name from TL back in the day, but this is my first experience with your channel. Thanks for the memories. And for showing that old interview, not only because it confirmed that I did recognize your name, but also be was tweeted by the Cheesemaster himself, HotBid.
Fun fact, Moon also had arguably the worst Baneling landmines in Starcraft 2 history in a 2011 GSL game vs BitByBit. a little youtube searching will find it for those interested.
Great video, glad to see someone still talking about the OG esport!
these double uploads are helping all of us through finals and AP tests
thanks big A & editors 🙏🙏🙏
bro it's so crazy how there's so many random ass vids on the internet with atrioc in them
I love all these esports stories, more please!
Really awesome stories. I’m new to your channel but will definitely try and catch a stream soon!
I used to love watching my stepbrothers play starcraft. I always wanted to play it but never could (because of access to hardware). I never got the opportunity to learn how to play it but I'm still happy when you talk about it. Loved the video.
This is literally napoleon strats. I feel like "could've been talented" generals all became starcraft players during peaceful time.
I can relate to this so much. I got really into SC:BW esports after WCG 2005
and by 2010 I was super hyped for LoL and the "world finals" at Dreamhack.
This brings back a lot of great memories.
Damn this video took me back to the days of binging Pro BroodWar around 2008-2011. Glad to this and Bisu being shown to a different audience!
i love how old atrioc is just because of how involved he has been in gaming all of these years.
he has random stories from different eras cause he's seen it all LMFAO.
respect.
Some say atrioc was the prototype for the perfect gamer
@@northpenguins but hes so ass at games
I don't understand a lot of the intricacies of many games, and gaming, but this was fascinating and explained perfectly for a noob like me. Great content Atrioc :)
it is not super hard to explain
I agree this is the greatest match ever, but you have to include Bisu pulling off something like 4 manor pylons in the early game during is Zealot rush. That slowed down Flash so much.
Great video!
HuK was not the first non-korean to win a Starcraft event. You had the Norwegian player Slayer who won KBK in 2000. You also had the French guy Grrr who won multiple tournaments in the early days of Starcraft.
A Norwegian tv-documentary was even made about Slayer, real name Fredrik Østervold. Which was aired in 2000. I saw that on TV as a 9 year old at the time and that's what got me into Starcraft. You can find it subtitled on youtube in glorious 240p
Man, I remember that being on SBS here in Australia back then. Wasn't me that realised it was on though, it was my mum calling out asking "isn't this that game you like playing?". Thanks for the reminder.
I miss the golden days of brood war, waking up in the early hours of the morning to watch it live. The good old days of esports
I’ve never been an esports fan, but goddamn can Atrioc spin a yarn. His stories are really funny and interesting. He’s clearly learned a lot about telling stories while changing lives from Dhar Mann
I met Bisu at ASL this year! Dude has good english and was very happy to meet fans, didn't expect it.
The arm touch while he's helping you hold the mic
Aw the Moon story was so wholesome
The moon story is wholesome as fuck, drunktrioc goated
my knowledge on starcraft is practically zero but the way atrioc tells stories is so fun to watch
I LOVE these atrioc storyline vids
The Days of the Bonjwa(s) were some of the greatest stories and moments in eSports history.
Damn I’m a huge melee fan now but I had forgotten what a solid match of Starcraft looks and feels like. I’ve played several but it really is the ultimate RTS.
"Shinhan 2010 Winners League Jaedong vs Stork 2010-02-20" gotta be one of my favourite televised games ever.. sweat literally pouring down JD's face after 30 minutes of back and forth insanity. Recommended watch!
The story of flash kinda reminded me of bradman. He was without a question the most dominant cricket player ever and in his very last game he would have ended with an insane static of over 100 (while the no 2 player had around 60) and then blunders and his end statistic ended up being 99,94
i can't believe i am old enough where Bisu and Legend You've Never Heard Of. is put together
I have absolutely no clue what is happening but it’s hype as all hell and I want more
Loved the content. Brood War to LoL is the route that I’ve also taken. However, I’ve recently ditched LoL and started playing StarCraft 2!
Im a huge melee and SC1&2 fan. I never watched any Atrioc stuff, but definitely have respect for him now. Amazing story and story telling.
i remember watching season 1 league of legends in that corner with the shitty mics and that garen spin to win wheel
this video brought back many memories of early league and starcraft 2 days
more esports stories please
The starcraft and chess comparison is exactly how I think of it. It is a one on one fight battle of the minds but on steroids where speed is just as important as your strategy.
The highest skill ceiling game
1. UNO
2. Monopoly
3. Starcraft
one of the finest review of the starcraft gameplay. Albeit could have been one of the most boring game to analyze for the people who already know the outcome (or have zero interest in sc1) , Atrioc, you have just nailed it entirely. Thank you so much for such a great entertainment
12:25 holy moly ive never seen HuK so young
A man that saw the creation of chess can make a tier list of difficulty
Starcraft Brood War is a beast game. You're a beast Atrioc. Keep it beasting fam.
I don't know how i ended up in this video, but i greatly enjoyed it. Always love legendary stories on starcraft games like this one.
Real ones know big A has told this story at least twice now
this is one of the best gaming vidoes ive ever seen. Goddamn. This man was at the peak of SC1 and beginnings of lol and i just found him now? fuck youtube algorithms I needed this dude 10 years ago. Subscribed today. Apologies it wasnt in 2011.
You make absolute banger videos my man keep it up
What's so cool about this is that after all that, now that brood war progaming has made a comeback, Flash dominated it once again, until weeks ago when he was forced to military service.
Big Broodwar fan here, great video, thanks for making this. Always liked July, this story cements it for me. Wonder how Artosis felt when you said that about him, prolly "Hey I play against A and S rank players on the ladder all the time.... oh wait he's right though." That's really funny about League, I didn't know that's how it started in eSports xD i used to play DotA back when it was a WC3 map
If they ever found a happy medium between Starcraft and Chess I genuinely believe that would be the GOAT game.
Incredible rewatch value
I had no idea u knew so much about starcraft lol. Im glad I found ur channel today. Im def subbing lol
"THERE IS NO GAME THAT HARD" FACTS! i love sc but everytime i play i get half way thru the game and leave even if im ahead cause i get so stressed out XD
lol, same here. I managed to get into platinum but when a game gets into the 20 minute mark it gets pretty stressful.
13:40 Moon, and now he's the best wc3 player probably of all time.
Great breakdown of the bisu vs flash game
i remember the 2011 DH final game, it was so hype. Gosebumps when i think about it.
Spoilers, the greatest esports player is the ghost at the fall guys twitch rivals tournament