Turbofolk: Music Of The Yugoslav War

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  • Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
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Комментарии • 322

  • @Aurelian41000
    @Aurelian41000 Месяц назад +14

    ruclips.net/p/PLxXUfKPuPcYit3971_3EMidiOmv_RgyBW&si=u8pyaj_m1uVbOHzE

    • @Aurelian41000
      @Aurelian41000 Месяц назад +1

      ty for pin man

    • @BadBlueBoysBorovje
      @BadBlueBoysBorovje Месяц назад

      serbian soft influence goes hard. vidi se da bas aktivno mijenjate svoj ugled u svijetu, dalje od haga i đenosajda

    • @freakystley
      @freakystley Месяц назад

      @@BadBlueBoysBorovje Si ljubomoran susjed?

    • @veljkozivkovic9350
      @veljkozivkovic9350 Месяц назад

      ​@@BadBlueBoysBorovjenzm dal si sarkastičan Il bacaš hejt Il šta god lik spominjao sve strane, sve je krenulo preko mimova, nisu Srbi baš imali kontrolu nad celokupnom internetom😅

    • @BadBlueBoysBorovje
      @BadBlueBoysBorovje Месяц назад

      @@veljkozivkovic9350 kakav hejt? samo kažem, vidi se da ste složni oko toga, baš na silu stavljate sebe na mapu. subreddit o geografiji je pun serbia this serbia that. da bar hrvati vole desetinu hrvatsku koliko srbi srbiju

  • @CoffinReaper666
    @CoffinReaper666 Месяц назад +54

    NSBM: made by nerds who keep their identity a secret and sing about wars they never fought
    Turbofolk: Made by actual war criminals who proudly show their face on album covers

  • @goldenknight2961
    @goldenknight2961 17 дней назад +7

    Germany: We’re sorry for our War Crimes
    Japan: We did not commit war crimes
    Balkans: Let’s sing a song

  • @antonio_cdja2919
    @antonio_cdja2919 Месяц назад +63

    As a Serbian, watching Whyattxhim reviewing Turbo Folk is like a fever dream.

    • @vedranvekson4341
      @vedranvekson4341 Месяц назад +1

      @@antonio_cdja2919 kao srbin bi trebao znati da to što je rekao je laž i glupost. Ili se be razumeš u muziku ili u povjest 🤷

    • @antonio_cdja2919
      @antonio_cdja2919 Месяц назад +1

      @@vedranvekson4341 drži se tehno muzike koje praviš, i smanji glupe komentare na internetu.

    • @vedranvekson4341
      @vedranvekson4341 Месяц назад

      @@antonio_cdja2919 babunčiću ja se glazbom bavim 15 godina, elektronska je zadnjih 5 godina. Imam iza sebe iskustva a i ljudi koji me vole slušat, a kaj si ti napravio u životu? Cijeli si se zavuko u šupčić ovom mamlazu kaj ne zna ni kaj je techno a kamoli kaj drugo. Takvi ste vi srbende oduvijek bili.

    • @vedranvekson4341
      @vedranvekson4341 Месяц назад

      @@antonio_cdja2919 jazavac jazavi. Čeljust bi ti strgo da te vidim.

  • @Grindermetalhead
    @Grindermetalhead Месяц назад +103

    Did you know that Ceca was married to the most notorious warlord, war criminal, and also the Serbian mafia kingpin Željko Ražnatović Arkan, until he was assassinated in 2000? The guy had a huge boner for making her the biggest Serbian folk music star, so he could flash her around like a trophy, to which effect he used a lot of his "influence" to get all the best songwriters, stylists, videographers and other notable music business people in Serbia to work with her, quite often under duress. Everyone in music business, or "Estrada" as it's called here in Serbia, was scared to death of getting on his bad side, and it was sort of an open secret that they all had to offer their best material to Ceca first, to get her to guest appear on their shows first, to play her songs most frequently, etc. and they were allowed to pass any opportunity to other artists only after she declined it. He was so petty about this that he even sabotaged the careers of other prominent Serbian folk singers, driving some of them, like for example Dragana Mirković out of the estrada altogether.

    • @VernonCarson1978
      @VernonCarson1978 Месяц назад +6

      What's not talked about a lot is that when Arkan was in prison a literal 18 year old named Ludvig Pavlovic (who tried to kill Tito and was sentenced to life in prison) made Arkan's nose permanently crooked during a prison brawl between the two. Ludvig had an entire unit named after him in the HVO (Croatian-Bosnian War). Pavlovic should have a video made about him, dudes story is fucking wild. Look up the Bugojno Group.

    • @savic-e8m
      @savic-e8m Месяц назад

      what a load of nonsense you wrote.

    • @Grindermetalhead
      @Grindermetalhead Месяц назад +10

      @@savic-e8m Which part, because all of it is true?

    • @ladyjane8023
      @ladyjane8023 Месяц назад

      Nemoj tako pa ceca je volela arkana.

    • @savic-e8m
      @savic-e8m Месяц назад

      @@Grindermetalhead He never killed civilians and he was never convicted of any war crime. You lie when you write 'war criminal'.
      You are not from the region and all you know is what the western fake news media has filled your head with. Pick another topic to talk about.

  • @DesolateSolitude
    @DesolateSolitude Месяц назад +43

    Roki is he actually is a great guy. All the cash he made off music he donated to his wounded comrades.
    He actually served in the war and his music doesn’t insult Croats or Bosniaks or try to justify war crimes.
    He’s said that he has no hatred for Croats and Bosniaks and Albanians but he simply is a Serb and loves his country with moving and powerful lyrics.
    “Moja Zemlja” is the best example I think, as he talks of the beauty of his homeland and how he loves his country more than anything else.
    I find that so moving and powerful.

  • @holyshiet787
    @holyshiet787 Месяц назад +112

    West/US: I am ashamed of my ancestors
    Balkan: *My father is a war criminal*

    • @buzzy-ears
      @buzzy-ears Месяц назад

      Haha, wow. The middle east says hi, US. They're so happy you're "ashamed of your ancestors"

  • @rodneydelboy6910
    @rodneydelboy6910 Месяц назад +13

    Thompson isn't turbofolk he was a rock artist for the most part and now he even plays metal and Croatians in the 90s didn't really listen to turbo folk but pop and rock. The kids in Croatia now all listen to Serbian folk which is kind of a love and hated thing by the older generation in the country. E moj druže Beogradski is another war song from Croatia and it's pretty much pop rock.

    • @ShejtanVrbaski
      @ShejtanVrbaski Месяц назад

      Nobody mentioned in this video, except from Ceca herself, was turbo-folk. They are just cheezy folk artists that sang extreme nationalistic songs.
      Thompson was more into rock and folk rock. I believe his music today is classified as "sheppard rock" (i guess you can say like "redneck rock").

  • @ShadowRegion
    @ShadowRegion Месяц назад +40

    The Crni Bombarder intro occupies 12% of my brainpower.

  • @ebriietas7491
    @ebriietas7491 Месяц назад +56

    Never thought id hear Baja Mali Knindza mentiond in your videos, живели from Serbia

  • @VarcArtsandMusic
    @VarcArtsandMusic Месяц назад +16

    One funny thing that happened was, when my family and I were in Croatia and visiting my dad’s cousin, he was explaining what turbofolk was, and called it, “catastrophic music.” That phrase has lived rent-free in my head ever since.

  • @milesbyt
    @milesbyt Месяц назад +24

    gyattxhim

  • @dindinbre
    @dindinbre Месяц назад +40

    Wow, absolutely didn't expect this one LOL. So, the Turbofolk music takes it's roots from the 80s "new wave folk" music when a group called Juzni Vetar made a massive revolution with their approach. Juzni Vetar implemented rock guitars, pop drum machines, amazing bass lines, wild synthesizers and accordions. They sold millions of records and inspired more artists in the late 80s, early 90s to implement drum machines and synthesizers into their folk music. Sinan Sakic, Mile Kitic, Dragana Mirkovic, Kemal Malovcic and Semsa Suljakovic are the "big five" singers of Juzni Vetar (with some other legends who have a record or two with Juzni Vetar like Louis, Jasar Ahmedovski, etc), and they were among the most popular singers in the former Yugoslavia. Mile Bass, the Juzni Vetar founder, to this day won't label his music as turbofolk, and uses "alternative folk music" term instead.
    In the 90s, Futa and Zlaja had their own band that recorded stuff with Ceca and some other artists like Mira Skoric, and then split into two bands. They would steal music from Greeks, Bulgarians, Turks, hell, even from Deep Purple lol, but also had a lot of their original songs that implemented synthesizers and drum machines with some accordions and guitars.
    Turbofolk officially became a thing with the song 200 na sat by Ivan Gavrilovic, a ripoff of a No Limit by 2 Unlimited. It lived through the 90s with different forms of eurodance, like Dr Iggy, Beat Street, Electro Team, etc and more folk oriented music like Ceca, Zeljko Sasic, Knez, Mira Skoric, etc.
    In the late 90s, ZAM productions began making more and more turbofolk music, and people who sang more traditional folk music had a fair share of turbo folk albums, a couple of years later, with Grand productions, from 1998 up until 2010, turbofolk was at it's peak with songs that had that folk singing with more like an electro/trance music in the background.
    Trust me, it's wild, and it's a massive rabbit hole to explore. War songs are just a tiny portion of the Serbia specific music that's so weird and unique, that you either love it or absolutely hate it. As a metalhead and a massive fan of Juzni Vetar, i'd put them in the RnR hall of fame for their incredible, unique and weird music. People who don't like them are most of the time blindfolded by the stigma that it's "arabic, muslim, redneck" and whatever, but in reality it's musically superior to what they consider "cultured" music from that time period.

    • @7919dd
      @7919dd Месяц назад

      Very insightful, thanks!

    • @Grindermetalhead
      @Grindermetalhead Месяц назад

      Turboflok was a thing several years prior to "200 na sat". Ivan Gavrilović was more influential as one of the artists who started the Serbian "dance" music scene, which was mostly inspired by the "eurodance" trend, and had very little folk influences, aside from several crossover turbofolk tracks such as the mentioned "200 na sat", and "Plavi slon" by Twins. I honestly can't remember any others, but I was never a fan of any of that crap, so it's possible I missed a lot of it.
      Btw, Ivan Gavrilović was also known for being the boyfriend of Marija Milošević, the daughter of Slobodan Milošević.

    • @dindinbre
      @dindinbre Месяц назад

      @@Grindermetalhead as I said, it was kinda started by Juzni Vetar, but they can't be really classified as that, their music is way more complex. Other artists kinda took that idea and simplified the hell out of it (instead of layers and layers of instruments, they'd just midi/synth everything). It's a very complex, and, sadly, still taboo subject.

    • @Grindermetalhead
      @Grindermetalhead Месяц назад +2

      @@dindinbre I'd also place a lot of the blame for turbofolk on the influence of Lepa Brena and her band "Slatki Greh". After leaving ZAM production, she and her band leader, Saša Popović, famously started GRAND Production label, which still hosts some of the biggest names in the genre.

    • @Grindermetalhead
      @Grindermetalhead Месяц назад +1

      Comedy band "Rokeri s Moravu" also had somewhat of an influence on the overall aesthetics of the genre.

  • @insomnia6621
    @insomnia6621 Месяц назад +16

    Turbodzihad is antibrain type of music. Hello from Serbia, mate.

    • @hydroponicgard
      @hydroponicgard Месяц назад +1

      Koje sranje pa sad izmislise!? 💀lele

  • @tinyecho
    @tinyecho Месяц назад +4

    most of turbofolk was actually glitzy and glamourous escapism and had nothing to do with nationalism - at least not directly (ceca probably being the best example). guys like roki vulovic and thompson were more like underground stuff, rather obscure back then. btw, you made an excellent point with "my dad is a war criminal" - it's definitely a troll song. anyway,, i still can't believe you did this, much respect for the effort you put into it. greetings from serbia :),

  • @hermenegildakociubinska6665
    @hermenegildakociubinska6665 Месяц назад +6

    "My dad is a war criminal" reminded me how degenerate my sense of humour is. I'm playing it on repeat.

  • @DanilkaVishkin
    @DanilkaVishkin Месяц назад +13

    I rate video 10/10 war criminals

  • @Samotbackwards
    @Samotbackwards Месяц назад +20

    Great video! Could you do a video about the old Yugoslavian/Balkan rock scene? Like Bijelo Dugme and stuff. Its really unique.

    • @wyattxhim
      @wyattxhim  Месяц назад +17

      @@Samotbackwards I’ll look into it

    • @ognjenstevanovic3311
      @ognjenstevanovic3311 Месяц назад +9

      @@wyattxhim Ekatarina Velika - super innovative. Also Leb i Sol, Haustor, Kerber etc. The ex-yu scene is not that well known to the rest of the world, but it really is a goldmine to discover...

    • @andrej9654
      @andrej9654 Месяц назад +3

      ​@@wyattxhim Serb-american here. Dude I can tell you would absolutely geek out over yugo rock. They cover so many genres too: Haustor (dub, reggae), Smak (blues), Korni Grupa (prog) and so so many other greats. Seriously the best music scene you've never heard of

    • @veljkozivkovic9350
      @veljkozivkovic9350 Месяц назад

      Early Van Gogh was also great

    • @veljkozivkovic9350
      @veljkozivkovic9350 Месяц назад

      80s yugo synth pop and jazz were just avantgarde @wyattxhim

  • @kontrakrist
    @kontrakrist Месяц назад +54

    Never clicked on a video faster. I love that music.

  • @jaroslavvalasek6567
    @jaroslavvalasek6567 Месяц назад +27

    Man for some reason metalheads like yugoslavian war folk. I know like five people of top of my head

    • @homuraakemi4559
      @homuraakemi4559 Месяц назад

      I thought I was the only one. I'm also Polish and polo disco doesn't do it for me except when I'm really drunk

    • @jaroslavvalasek6567
      @jaroslavvalasek6567 Месяц назад +2

      @@homuraakemi4559 I am from czech republic, got some ukrainian and russian friends who half-ironically like this whole thing. I say half-ironically cos ofcourse they nor I dont mean to propagate war, just that this whole thing is really interesting to get into as a rabbithole

    • @ShejtanVrbaski
      @ShejtanVrbaski Месяц назад +4

      @@jaroslavvalasek6567 well, both Ukrainaians and Russians (ironically together, on the same side) could be seen as volonteers in Serbian forces during the Balkan wars.

  • @pickler_pickler
    @pickler_pickler Месяц назад +6

    bro you look like the european hunter gatherers figures they have in museum exhibits

    • @wyattxhim
      @wyattxhim  Месяц назад +2

      @@pickler_pickler I mean I am Portuguese…

  • @n.d.1926
    @n.d.1926 Месяц назад +6

    Dude, I'm so glad I discovered your channel! This was a great video. As a Serbian, I gotta recommend the rock 'n' roll response to the bloody Yugoslav wars! A bunch of rock bands got together and created a rock anti-war propaganda album. It's called "rimtutituki". You gotta realize, there were A LOT of people opposing the wars, protesting every day. This was their anthem.

  • @Lil_truck_fawk
    @Lil_truck_fawk Месяц назад +22

    SERBIA MENTIONED

  • @holyshiet787
    @holyshiet787 Месяц назад +23

    SERBIA MENTIONED 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣

  • @14Krieg188
    @14Krieg188 Месяц назад +2

    Btw Thompson is just one dude, and Baja is active today and also played in Bosnia (Republic of Srpska).

  • @lukasztrybowski531
    @lukasztrybowski531 Месяц назад +11

    War metal - eat your heart out!

  • @kristijan9790
    @kristijan9790 Месяц назад +8

    Early 2000' were THE time for turbofolk, but at that time the term "cajke" was and still is more used so saying that turbofolk died after the 90s is very much not the case. Cajke is a blanket term for accordion based folk music and turbofolk and is very polarized hate or love relationship in Croatia. Turbofolk in the 2000' was basically accordion or the fiddle with a dance beat in the backround and was very lazily and mass produced (in my opinion).

  • @predragradovic8051
    @predragradovic8051 Месяц назад +19

    Wow, never expected turbofolk on this channel hahaha Greetings from Serbia :)

  • @marisLukiii
    @marisLukiii Месяц назад +28

    Ayee I’m from Croatia🤘🏻

  • @matze75
    @matze75 Месяц назад +4

    It all started at a cup match where Serbian police beat Croatian players and fans. That was about a year before the civil war.

    • @josipkoic5000
      @josipkoic5000 Месяц назад +1

      According to the Constitution of Yugoslavia from 1974, every jugoslavian republic and nation had the right to self-determination and separation. The Serbs did not like the idea of ​​an independent Croatia, so they tried to create a state within a state, the so-called The Republic of Serbian Krajina in order to eventually merge with the mother country of Serbia, which would lead to the realization of the idea of ​​Greater Serbia. Thanks to the Croatian army, that did not happen. It was a bloody war for freedom and independence paid for with many innocent lives, not a civil war! Just see what happend around and in city of Vukovar, in Škabrnja, Srebrenica (Bosnia), etc, etc. In every place where serbian army came, there was slaughter, massacre of civilians, women, children, demolition of churches, hospitals, etc. May the same never happen again. History must be known so that it doesn't repeat itself!

  • @BassMessiah100
    @BassMessiah100 Месяц назад +44

    If I cant play Thompson on my wedding Im not gettin married at all
    yugo wars- the original NSBM

    • @zachbos5108
      @zachbos5108 Месяц назад +1

      According to bm legend nsbm was only invented to shock people and keep people out of the scene. With the idea that BM itself should be the most extreme ideology. NSBM has also been criticized within the scene for being too positive and optimistic (at least towards certain ethnicities or countries), lol.

    • @CoffinReaper666
      @CoffinReaper666 Месяц назад +7

      I’d honestly say turbofolk is more extreme than nsbm cause the artists are actually living out the topics they are singing about

    • @BassMessiah100
      @BassMessiah100 Месяц назад +2

      @@CoffinReaper666 yeah, art will never be able to reach the horrors of reality

  • @AnarchistPole
    @AnarchistPole 29 дней назад +1

    I litherly left eastern europe for fresh music.
    2 years later 5 balkan families move in in a span of 5 months
    Since then they have a long party every 2 to 1 days

  • @honeycomblord9384
    @honeycomblord9384 Месяц назад +11

    Turbofolk definitely fascinates me due to how it's basically a genre of pop music that's always going to be associated with a very specific war. As far as I know, there aren't really any other examples of that which come to mind.

    • @Nachtdwaler
      @Nachtdwaler Месяц назад +1

      Check out, ''God, Syria and Bashar!''.. It's pretty much in the same vein.

    • @dindinbre
      @dindinbre Месяц назад +1

      It's funny how an average Serb has no idea that such songs exist. They're just an internet phenomenon

    • @moritzbierdimpfl7233
      @moritzbierdimpfl7233 Месяц назад

      i think the vietnam war and its soundtrack like ccr and such is kinda similar in that regard that its allways asociated with the war

    • @honeycomblord9384
      @honeycomblord9384 Месяц назад

      @@moritzbierdimpfl7233 True, but you could honestly analyze the themes of that music without talking about Vietnam specifically (most of the time, anyways). Turbofolk seems like it's way more difficult to seperate the themes of the music from the Yugoslav wars. I can see where you're coming from though.

  • @0v3rm1nd3d
    @0v3rm1nd3d Месяц назад +6

    Now I would love to know your opinion about another Yugoslavian act: Laibach

    • @wyattxhim
      @wyattxhim  Месяц назад +9

      The pioneers of martial industrial and the only western band to play in North Korea?
      I respect them I’ll tell you that

    • @veljkozivkovic9350
      @veljkozivkovic9350 Месяц назад +4

      ​@@wyattxhimsomeone said Rammstein is just Laibach for children😅

    • @MrTheta-lc8zy
      @MrTheta-lc8zy 24 дня назад

      ⁠@@wyattxhim they performed in North Korea? I mean, you got your video title right there.

    • @Gaetano.94
      @Gaetano.94 8 дней назад

      ​@@MrTheta-lc8zy Yes they did!

  • @mananaVesta
    @mananaVesta 8 дней назад +1

    'My daddy is a war criminal' - a lot of kids of US politicians could sing that one with confidence 🤣

  • @eviltwinkk
    @eviltwinkk Месяц назад +2

    War is bad but the music goes hard

  • @vladimirspiritusmagus888
    @vladimirspiritusmagus888 Месяц назад +3

    I mix this with black metal daily

  • @gazdaalimpije4038
    @gazdaalimpije4038 Месяц назад +4

    18:37 that's not Ceca, that's a random female volunteer

  • @prodajemDomacuRakiju
    @prodajemDomacuRakiju Месяц назад +17

    Turbofolk is easy to recognize because it sounds like retching on top of a Turkish melody. Serbia and Bosnia were 500 years under Ottoman rule hence the influence. Thompson is not turbofolk, it’s shepherd rock / metal plagiarism. Shepherd meaning less sophisticated.

    • @mladen5016
      @mladen5016 Месяц назад +4

      Thompson is a gypsy turkish version of metal plagiarism....

    • @prodajemDomacuRakiju
      @prodajemDomacuRakiju Месяц назад +1

      @@mladen5016 What are on about?

    • @markobakovic627
      @markobakovic627 Месяц назад

      Thomson has a pretty bright skin tone for a gipsy 😂
      No my friend gipsy is a more common thing in serbia Romania is your neighbor.. you are full of serbian gipsys

    • @Krezo200
      @Krezo200 Месяц назад +1

      He got triggered lol

    • @mvukovic5364
      @mvukovic5364 24 дня назад

      ​@@mladen5016how so

  • @only_duskblade
    @only_duskblade Месяц назад +3

    Roki Vulović is the best

  • @blackmetalfollower666offic9
    @blackmetalfollower666offic9 Месяц назад +48

    You did better job than Yugopnik

    • @RichardCranium.
      @RichardCranium. Месяц назад +24

      He seemed to be a butthurt leftist who dislikes the "orientalism" of Westerners who show interest in his country

    • @martinthedrainedsedlak
      @martinthedrainedsedlak Месяц назад +2

      Definitely not the worst video about turbofolk tho

    • @Samotbackwards
      @Samotbackwards Месяц назад +5

      I don't know if it's still up, but years ago I saw a video by some 16 year old american kid who was just going "ohhh funny war look at these funny balkans", and didnt really talk about the music itself. Was the I'm-16-and-just-discovered-politics type, the one that calls himself a commerade. Got bullied by some actual Serbians and then never uploaded again.

    • @wyattxhim
      @wyattxhim  Месяц назад +34

      I saw his video a few months back and im glad I did. its the only video ive come across discussing turbofolk in a serious tone. Gave me a perspective as to how low brow and mean spirted the style of music was.
      I will say though that it’s a bit unfair on his stance to be talking down on people who at least show interest understanding turbofolk. I believe he said in the same vain of "People only view turbofolk for content to consume and for westerns it's just another conversation across a dinner table. that people will view the Balkan region that its just savages and that westerns are superior to them." okay and what's wrong with that exactly ? what's wrong about learning something that you didn't know before ? its normal in a sense that when you learn of a completely different place you never heard of and learn of its history the initial reaction is either its a Utopia or a hellhole because youre going off of basic understanding. I mean people think the USA is a hellhole full of riots and shootings every minute from what they see on the news . finding out about turbofolk helped me learn about the Yugoslav war then learn as to what caused it, what the state was before the war, and where the region is today and how its overall viewed and understood today. simply put I learned about history and I always view that as a good thing as learning about the past is the best way of understanding the present.

    • @blackmetalfollower666offic9
      @blackmetalfollower666offic9 Месяц назад +10

      @@wyattxhim to summarise, yugopnik always mix his political biases into his videos especially “Historical” ones. Which is a thing you should never do. When you make a video essay or “Explain Video” etc. You have to make sure that you be objective as much as possible and must be based on sources that can help others to see all the pieces. So others can learn and others can analyse if there is something missing.

  • @arjunmenon1796
    @arjunmenon1796 Месяц назад +1

    Balkans nationalism is always unintentionally hilarious.

  • @kiklopka8690
    @kiklopka8690 Месяц назад +2

    We love each other in the Balkans so much we like to steal each other's songs as well. Roki lifted Moja zemlja straight from Daleka Obala's Mojoj lijepoj.

  • @cizjefida
    @cizjefida Месяц назад +1

    Mahiru Burekovicu je fakat Ratko Mladic pisao tekst

  • @7919dd
    @7919dd Месяц назад +3

    Interesting topic. I think Turbofolk was often integrated into Balkan beats and Russian disco sets. All these styles mix traditional and folkloric sounds with techno and/or dancehall dub. Since the second half of the 90s, this has been a trademark of the Berlin club scene, often represented by immigrants from the former Soviet states. Some trace the origins of this concept back to the ethno beat and its pioneer Muslimgauze. Do you have an opinion on his work and his person?

    • @wyattxhim
      @wyattxhim  Месяц назад +2

      @@7919dd I’ve always looked at Muslimgauze as a spiritual and trance version of Aphex Twin .
      I’ve wanted to explore more of Muslimgauze’s work but it’s intimidating how large the discography is.

    • @7919dd
      @7919dd Месяц назад

      @@wyattxhim
      Do you know that idm remix collection of muslimgauze tracks?
      ruclips.net/video/DBX01crq6WU/видео.htmlsi=fbvGcc1bwifSoJy4
      Indeed very Twin-esk😉

  • @_cosmix_
    @_cosmix_ Месяц назад +1

    NO FUCKING WAY MY NATIONAL MUSIC GOT COVERED BY MY GOAT , ŽIVELA SRBIJA.

  • @zvonimirbrekalo1291
    @zvonimirbrekalo1291 Месяц назад +1

    Fun fact Thompson has borrowed meldoies from ABBA
    How dark the things in the Balkans got is the example of Serbian singers having a concert in Vukovar after the fall of the city. Nada topcagic and Era Ojdanic were two of the most prominent.

  • @robertb8673
    @robertb8673 Месяц назад +1

    Serbo German here.
    Never heard from this singers.
    I grew up on miroslav ilić, Brena, sascha...
    I met Lepa Brena and Sascha at Belgrade Airport 2002.
    Mi favourite song is Saschas-
    I fell in love with a girl from....
    Singing in the language of the girls country.
    And yes he also sings in German 😊
    Nice song. Very fun.
    Saša was keyboard player in Brenas band and also played solo.
    If somebody remember this song,
    Please tell me the original name and title of it.
    I would like to find it.

  • @synthland4526
    @synthland4526 Месяц назад +2

    Please do a video on the YU rock scene!!! Synthpop from yugoslavia! Listen to the 1984 album from Bijelo Dugme!!! This album was the milestone of production and regarded one of the best produced albums of yugoslavia

    • @il_nostro_della_segreto
      @il_nostro_della_segreto Месяц назад

      Exactly. So many ex-YU rock (essentially post-punk and new wave) bands that are absolutely excellent.

  • @Ducktage
    @Ducktage Месяц назад +1

    Although Ceca's music isn't that political, you could have mentioned her being married to Arkan 🤣

  • @zombiesatemyfriend6282
    @zombiesatemyfriend6282 Месяц назад +5

    Man, i love Turbofolk.

  • @nzkastriskan
    @nzkastriskan Месяц назад +4

    That Waco Jesus top tho

  • @edgarmaestre6622
    @edgarmaestre6622 Месяц назад +1

    I discover this chanel right now and the topics that you talk about are very interesting. You deserve more subscribers. Excuse me my bad english. Greetings from Catalonia!

  • @GoonToThrones
    @GoonToThrones Месяц назад +2

    This instantly made me think of the band Trijumf they're a Bosnian Herzegovian black metal band that uses some form of folk music samples throughout there first and only album

  • @Drekavacmilitaria
    @Drekavacmilitaria Месяц назад +1

    Pozdrav i srpski amerikanac

  • @CirKhan
    @CirKhan 8 дней назад

    You are correct-My dad is a war criminal is a troll/dark humor song.
    Thing is, that during the nineties there was a vilification campaign aimed against Serbs in Western media unseen since WWII (which is curious since at that point Western militaries weren't involved, but the campaign paved the way for that), and unseen after, until the advent of SMO. Irrespective of actual proportion of who did what during these wars (and all sides did a lot of nasty shit if they had opportunity to do so, that's the nature of the beast of civil wars), it was almost exclusively Serbs who were blamed-later during the Hague trials several Croats were also indicted, but practically no Muslims or Albanians, as there was blatant case of using legal system to give legitimacy to foreign policy decisions made by Western countries. Rules based order ("we make the orders, you follow the rules") and all.
    While most people in Serbia would support actual objective legal process to prosecute guilty parties and individual who committed war crimes and establish justice for the victims whomever they are, this is not what happened, hence the collective sense of grievance that found it's way of expression in Baja Mali Knindza's song that turns black propaganda on it's head and in ironic twist accepts the media ascribed role with pride. There is a chorus in the song that say "Try and make an effort to indicte him. Nobody has balls to take him out to court." which is clearly a defiant stance, implying enduring resistance (and implicit threat of violence) to "Western justice". It's not celebration of war crimes, but a tongue in cheek punk song of sorts.

  • @Gea2222
    @Gea2222 Месяц назад +1

    Worst music ever

  • @real30yearoldboomerhours53
    @real30yearoldboomerhours53 Месяц назад +1

    I’m a Balkanophile so this video was right up my alley. Excellent analysis my friend

  • @MortuusMachina
    @MortuusMachina Месяц назад +3

    Yes, it was Baja Mali Knindža who in fact wrote "My Dad is a War Criminal". It's off his 1994 album Rat i Mir (lit. War and Peace). On the album it's called "Tata" (Serbo-Croatian for "Dad").
    He also wrote "Ćuti Ćuti Ujko" (lit. Shut Up Ustaše. Ustaše were Croatian collaborators with the Nazis during WWII and committed genocide against the Serbs) to which he collaborated with Bora Đorđević, a famous Serbian Rock singer for the Serb/Yugoslav band Riblja Čorba. The music video for Ćuti Ćuti Ujko is pure gold...

    • @nukana-wb9bm
      @nukana-wb9bm Месяц назад +1

      Listen to "neko mi Cariso baciklo" who is against chetniks, which is even better gold...chetniks collaborated with germans and ustashe aswell, and commited a genocide to muslim people (bosniaks and albanians) in balkan in the 1990s...and collaborated with turks

  • @moumouzel
    @moumouzel Месяц назад +16

    clown music

    • @hydroponicgard
      @hydroponicgard Месяц назад +6

      Thank you, someone fucking understands it. Jebome bog...

    • @marija.vujkov
      @marija.vujkov Месяц назад +5

      Slazem se agreed

  • @klaraiv6603
    @klaraiv6603 15 дней назад

    Some years ago I asked you if ever heard of turbofolk metal, you said you didn't. You have come a long way xd. If you are curious check out Pero Defformero music

  • @zvonimirbrekalo1291
    @zvonimirbrekalo1291 Месяц назад

    Turbo folk in a way is the attempt of TV Pink to push folk artists through the MTV lens. That's how you get a coked up Aca Lukas signing songs similar to Toma Zdravkovic, a true boem as people call them here.

  • @MrNiceguyofficial
    @MrNiceguyofficial Месяц назад +1

    Ive only seen videos of polish grandmas dancing to this music

  • @anthemrecords6424
    @anthemrecords6424 12 дней назад

    I was always under the impression that Rambo Amadeus was a pioneer of turbo folk. I guess I was wrong as he seems to not be mentioned here at all.
    ....still a great name though.

  • @stefangieck2914
    @stefangieck2914 Месяц назад +1

    Great introduction into this forgotten / overlooked / suppressed chapter of music history, a rabbit hole of pure f*ck*n' armageddon for sure...

  • @Bobbyblabby413
    @Bobbyblabby413 Месяц назад +1

    You need to do a video on Schlager music or traditional German folk music.

  • @n.d.1926
    @n.d.1926 Месяц назад +1

    PLEASE do the "rimtutituki" next!

  • @einbertalstein1394
    @einbertalstein1394 День назад

    It's a forbidden fruit which tastes but oh so sweet.

  • @Sarke2
    @Sarke2 25 дней назад

    Great video i laughed strong how you have taken their "music" expression seriously :D

  • @gkrstini
    @gkrstini Месяц назад

    you forget ganga, with gusle, also tamburica in slavonija, šargija in bosnija and izvornjaci, you had many music in that time

  • @ShiceSquad
    @ShiceSquad 28 дней назад

    Excellent recap; it jives with everything my Serb friends told me.

  • @ajmo-fi7mj
    @ajmo-fi7mj Месяц назад

    Fun fact: turbofolk is of middle-eastern/ottoman turkish origin...since muslims-turks occupied balkan for 500 years

  • @LukaDebiL
    @LukaDebiL 27 дней назад

    Just one quick correction, Thompson is a guy, not a band, it's a nickname

  • @Blyatuber
    @Blyatuber Месяц назад +1

    Certified my father is a war criminal moment ✅

  • @firstdaysofhumanity4716
    @firstdaysofhumanity4716 Месяц назад +1

    English spelling of Slavic words is hilarious

  • @a.n.6374
    @a.n.6374 Месяц назад +1

    15:36 - that's what Turbofolk, or narodnjake was before the war and it reverted to back after it. Your usage of the turbofolk to describe just the wartime niche is a bit odd. There's a whole bunch of artists who even during the war did not produce anything war related. Especially in Serbia, as exactly like nowadays in Russia, the war wasn't affecting them directly because it was fought in the other countries' territories.
    p.s. I'm Bulgarian and was observing all these events from outside and we have our own version of turbofolk, called chalga, heavily influenced by serbian, but also turkish and greek music.

  • @thebanished87
    @thebanished87 Месяц назад

    Very nice.
    SERBIA STRONK!
    💪

  • @darwinism14
    @darwinism14 Месяц назад +1

    Come on, Thompson is far away from that turbofolk garbage.

  • @fatimasabljakovic5368
    @fatimasabljakovic5368 10 дней назад

    Western bosnia: *Sad Emir Lizalo noises*

  • @kingdiamondscream
    @kingdiamondscream Месяц назад

    Odd transition from extreme metal, i go more the traditional blues/jazz rabbit holes especially avant garde. Is it really the music or the "culture/scene"?

  • @supermini4334
    @supermini4334 Месяц назад +1

    YES, I HAVE WAITED FOR SO LONG TO SEE THIS VIDEO AND HERE IT FINALLY IS ZA DOM SPREMNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII !!!!

  • @djomlas888
    @djomlas888 Месяц назад

    Ehm turbofolk is a wider therm than most of the war songs you covered, those songs are just a part of the music of the time, if you wanna see where turbofolk came from go and listen to the band Juzni Vetar and all of the singers associated with them like Sinan Sakic, Semsa Suljakovic, Dragana Mirkovic, Kemal Malovcic, most of those singers went on to have successful turbofolk carriers

    • @wyattxhim
      @wyattxhim  Месяц назад

      @@djomlas888 I feel like I’m forever cursed to say this to each comment but it’s whatever I guess.
      I stated at the beginning of the video that there are two different types of turbofolk you’ll come into when searching it up and I’m specifically talking about the Military style because of its relationship to the Yugoslav war

  • @bojanmitrovic972
    @bojanmitrovic972 Месяц назад

    yeah thx to the f wars and sanctions we got this shit music

  • @CoolStoryBro455
    @CoolStoryBro455 Месяц назад

    Turbo folk expert here. I'm a native speaker and from that region. Listening to it for over 30 years.
    In my opinion, you are interpreting too much into it. Its music to listen to while drinking. Its supposed to be fun.

    • @wyattxhim
      @wyattxhim  Месяц назад

      @@CoolStoryBro455 person who uploaded the video here . I’m a native speaker on this channel and I did state in the start of the video there’s two kinds of turbofolk. The one related to the Yugoslav war and the one you’re referring to.

  • @Mikki-r1l
    @Mikki-r1l Месяц назад

    "Serbian mother" is a joke nickname. It's amazing that everyone think it's genuine 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @wyattxhim
      @wyattxhim  Месяц назад

      It’s not so much genuine as it is just me reading what I read online

  • @withlovefalseortrue9839
    @withlovefalseortrue9839 Месяц назад +2

    Extraordinary video Wyatt!!

  • @Lunar_bloodreviews
    @Lunar_bloodreviews Месяц назад +1

    Just woke up to see this in my notifications....another genre for me to explore

  • @ruleofpeacepriests6911
    @ruleofpeacepriests6911 Месяц назад +4

    Ovakvi metalci devedesetih nisu smeli da prodju pored turbo šmekera.

    • @DomnulSarb
      @DomnulSarb 20 дней назад +1

      Zato vas je zapad posle bombardovao budalo. 😂

    • @ruleofpeacepriests6911
      @ruleofpeacepriests6911 20 дней назад

      @@DomnulSarb Da bas zato branili su rock😂

  • @Sofia_G_
    @Sofia_G_ Месяц назад +1

    Macedonia mentioned, thank you ❤❤

  • @vfbrs2382
    @vfbrs2382 5 дней назад

    >Makes a video about Tubofolk
    > Doesn’t even mention Serbia Strong but puts it in the background.
    > Why? It’s one of the most iconic tracks of the genre.

    • @wyattxhim
      @wyattxhim  5 дней назад

      @@vfbrs2382 mainly because of the mystery surrounding the song with its limited information. As to who the members are (mainly the accordion player) and its lyrics echoing the same message as what I talked about with others . I just felt I had nothing I could add to it .

    • @vfbrs2382
      @vfbrs2382 5 дней назад

      @@wyattxhim The bits that are known about the history of the song are wild, both pre and post release. There’s a video “The known history of Serbia Strong” that explains the topic well but that stuff was an internet phenomenon of it’s own.
      But yeah no one knows who is “that face soldier”.

  • @barbarianblood2316
    @barbarianblood2316 Месяц назад +5

    🤘🇭🇷🤘

  • @markovucic
    @markovucic Месяц назад

    ruclips.net/video/q7xucYJLEiw/видео.html

  • @roughrambo1000000
    @roughrambo1000000 Месяц назад

    I've always had an interest in Turbofolk but I also understand and see it as a type of music that is. It's like the surge of patriotic music here in the USA after 9/11. Some of it was made as a moral boost, some was mean spirited and some was just a musical equivalent of a scream of rage and greif.

  • @Star_Sn1per
    @Star_Sn1per Месяц назад +1

    That shirt dude lol wtf is going there

    • @wyattxhim
      @wyattxhim  Месяц назад

      Waco Jesus
      Have mercy on your soul if you look it up

  • @zipel
    @zipel Месяц назад +1

    Thank you for this

  • @elhatarolodohod2040
    @elhatarolodohod2040 7 дней назад

    MOOOOOJEEEEE TATA!

  • @Krasko666
    @Krasko666 Месяц назад

    I also recommend 2 songs from this serbian bosniak about his regiment: Slavna Teslicka Brigada and 204. Teslićka Brigada. More on the rock/metal side

  • @siegboy2079
    @siegboy2079 9 дней назад

    based asf

  • @monggreltemple
    @monggreltemple Месяц назад

    This makes me think of all the Bollywood soundtracks, they all have a sort of unified theme. Though I think Bollywood music is more listenable, lol

  • @odvedokikrema
    @odvedokikrema Месяц назад

    There are metalheads in Portugal? oh wow
    I wonder why though... you've got decades of peace and prosperity, you got a long coast to look at and chill, fado is way more relaxed than flamenco, you got brilliant fusion acts from Madredeus to Maro... why would you listen to metal?
    Btw, the late Portuegese writer/diplomat José Cutileiro was actually heavily involved in the Yugoslav peace negotiations back in the early 90s.