@@CronxWatch Then we just need more of you everywhere 😃 Bit passed it myself, most of my time is dealing with the NHS to stay alive. Where ever you, please continue, inspire the young ones.
Argh this makes me so angry. So bus users (including a lot of elderly and disabled people) have been forced to stand for years, because the council wanted to whack a load of bright LED adverts and surveillance in our faces and were too corrupt to even do that. What is so hard about a shelter and a bench? Why do they have to make everything worse??
Clearly it was incompetently handled, but a bus shelter partnership to bring in advertising revenue is a perfectly sensible scheme for a council to get involved in...
@@dglukesluthier You're SERIOUSLY asking why it's good that the council gets a share of the commercial advertising on the sides of bus shelters!? Rather obviously, because that money can be used to fund council services that are currently in danger of being cut or reduce the burden put on people via the area's high council tax rates. Am I missing something fundamental here? I find this disbelief almost incomprehensible! (Unless I suppose you're anti-advertising and want the council to spend extra money on creating advert-free shelters?)
Police, transport, healthcare... what realm is not corrupt (less corrupt!?) The hospital, Mayday (aka Croydon University Hospital) is better known to everyone* as Maydie * Doctors, patients, paramedics, general public etc
@@andywatts8654 I think they are. I work in hospital lab (thankfully not Mayday). News emerged that they failed their CPA (ISO 15189) inspection in about 2015 and didn't bother going for re-inspection. They were content they had the captive market of the attached hospital and GP practices in their catchment area! ISO15189, now certified by UKAS, isn't compulsory but any lab worth it's salt will have it. Last I heard the lab is now part of a South London pathology network🤷♂️ much like how council services like refuse collection have been merged.
I live in the UK, but I don't think I've ever visited Croydon, but thank you for exposing corruption where you see it. It's becoming so commonplace we almost pass over it, so keep up the good work!
I live in Croydon and contractors recently repainted the road markings, only for a week later (literally a week) for the road to be dug up and repaved due to pot holes etc. They can't even get that right either, and our money goes down the drain with it. Useless tools all of them
Because the people who care don't have the money to hire lawyers, and the people with money don't care about services they don't use. The only way they would go down is if they piss off someone in power and that person in power goes 'Mr Fixer, what's the dirt on that councilor?' and finds a reason to have them taken down.
Because all we can do is beg them to investigate themselves and if they do they will likely find no corruption only perhaps some incompetence so these people will have to take some time off whilst they do some reeducation.
Every privatization is a swindle. When the council owns and operates an asset, any profits go to the council. When it sells or leases the asset, any profits go to somewhere else.
Yes, private operators asset-strip the operation ( go bump up the corporate profits ) they buy or win the tender to operate. Cut corners until there is nothing left to cut.
Thanks for putting all this together! Been reading Inside Croydon for years now - you and Downes show the importance of local journalism! Also massive appreciation for the locations you use for each bit. This is such an amazing time capsule.
I noticed all the bus shelters disappearing, was around the same time the implanted the one way system around Croydon Clock Tower. Great video, hope you end up doing one on the Nestle building and the surrounding waste land one day.
Pardon my ignorance, I'm just a mere foreigner trying to figure things out. I always wonder... Why do these companies get paid before they deliver the results?
Because things in the UK are done via contracts. If the contract says "you need to pay us upfront", then they can choose to accept the terms or not. But in this case it was a clear corruption scandal.
@@alexander1989x The whole world operates using contracts in some capacity. It's not a new concept. I am baffled because in many cases you will have payments as milestones get completed. Or half at the start, half upon conclusion. I understand it's corruption. I understand inexperienced people negotiating these contracts. I guess I was wondering if there are any cultural tendencies, where UK gets itself into these sticky toffee puddings.
Might be something to do with the fact that if a council does not spend all of it's money each year, the gov cuts it the next year. So the councils are desperate to spend money and don't bother about little things like due diligence or proof of concept or proper contracts, etc.
Because the councillors take a nice back hander for setting the scam up I believe money flows if you have a scam in Croydon and will pay a councillor money corruption and croydon are best freinds
Earlier this year, I moved from Chiswick to Croydon. The flat I was renting was bigger than my new flat and had a garden. However, I pay more in council tax in Croydon. I am glad my extra cash is being spent so wisely...
Im glad you are exposing this. Croydon council thought they could cancel their contract with JCDecaux, but JC owned the bus stops and removed them. The new company is a PR company that promised money from digital advertising, but dont or cant produce the bustops.
What exactly do you do with bus shelters that are up to 10 years old? Most of the panels will no doubt end up as scrap and the glass panels simply smashed and disposed of, in order to save time when removing them. This isn't much like a car where valuable spares can be removed from the vehicle. The shelters will have little scope for further use once removed. Who paid for the bus shelters to be removed? Decaux or the Council? BTW, excellent presenting here and shooting of the video, this journo might well go far, he's a natural in front of the camera. I predict no one will get fired as a result of this debacle.
I am nowhere near Croydon, have never visited but I really look forward to your videos. Keep up the good work, expose the corruption and stay true to yourself!
I'm in Australia, and yet I find this hyper-local news video pretty good. The algorithm is working. Also, yeah... corruption bad, and more signs the UK is just ossifying.
a "brexit benefit". if they where in the EU, they had to tender it in the eu. plus: companies that want to bet on this tender NEED a clean criminal and bankruptcy record.
Still can't get over how I vividly remember one of my local bus stops by a pub actually had a proper (if not hi-tech) shelter stop and then one day never seeing it again. Honestly, there *should* be a way to integrate the hi-tech with those wooden old-fashioned shelters like you see outside of London. There's a really lovely one near Gipsy Hill that looks all mock Tudor and has history of the area. At least, it did when I was there last summer
On a recent monthly visit (one of my regular ones) to Garstang, near Lancaster, I observed a load of striped tape across an area on the pavement where a bus 'shed' (made of wood) had once stood. The location of the shelter had always puzzled me, located on the crown of a fairly sharp right hand bend when I approach it, I always slow down. Also nearby is a side road on the same side less than 5 yards away. It looked like the driver of a car had failed to negotiate the bend and demolished the wooden shelter. Four months on, no sign yet of a replacement. I rather fancy a slight relocation of a new shelter might be advisable, but I wouldn't be too sure that will happen.
There's a shiny new bus shelter just appeared near my house in Ceredigion West Wales, although there are no buses at all. It's positioned where buses used to stop until the services were cut in 2003. Someone's getting rich this way too.
The same thing happened near Barnsley a few years ago, it made the papers. erecting a new bus shelter when buses were stopped on the route years previously.
Great work as ever. I remember waking up one morning and the bus stop opposite our house was gone, so much corruption going on it felt like one of the less important things to get angry about, but then they never came back...
This is cracking journalism. I appreciate having the sources in the description, but if the list was cited Vancouver-style (think Wikipedia's [1] [2] etc) with a number coming up when the relevant source is used would make it far easier to keep pace with the video and read up further on the issue, as right now it isn't clear which sources have provided which information, making verifying claims a bit more difficult. That being said, this is still very high-quality. Keep this up and you could become Croydon's FriendlyJordies.
You're not wrong, I may do that for the next video! I try to keep them in order they were mentioned but they do get confused I suppose. Thanks for your comment, glad you liked the video!
I just watched Jago Hazzard's video about the superloop and unsurprisingly the place where he couldn't find the start of the next part of the route was Croydon. They'd closed the bus stop and there was no clear info on the app about the replacement stop.
Great job we need more reporters looking into government and public companies and how they are stealing tax payers money. How about the GLA and it fire stations next.
I did wonder what had happened to the majority of the bus shelters in the borough but never gave it much thought. No surprise to hear its yet another shortcoming from the council. Love these videos by the way keep them coming!
CROYDON: "And you can promise that you'll deliver the bus shelters for the quoted price?" SUTTON: "I can promise you anything you like, if you give me money"
Of course Croydon Council allowed corruption to take place. I go to Croydon for work and noticed the lack of shelters since COVID, so glad to know how it happened.
I am from NZ, and in 2005 visited Croydon as I was riding what used to be called Croydon Tram Link. Aside from that I laughed all the way through the comments and enjoyed your modern style. High praise from a pre baby boomer!
Might want to switch ‘Croydon’ to ‘London’ in the title just for better search optimization. Hate to see high effort videos like this not get pushed in algorithm
Call my cynical, but I don't think they ever intended to replace them and it's unlikely TfL will either. I've noticed quite a few bus stops across London (including in the centre) losing their passenger information displays first and then eventually their shelters. Some bean counter probably just sees them as an unnecessary cost and said passengers can shove it as far he's concerned.
The passenger info displays are supposed to be replaced by an e-ink screen on the actual flagpole thing. But yeah I have no clue why the shelters are vanishing. Though I wager if TfL actually had funding they wouldn't think about cutting the cost of them to begin with. But from TfLs perspective, it's more important to actually have buses that transport people as regularly as possible, versus having them comfortable while they wait longer for the buses. Unfortunately when you underfund the capitals transport system, buses suffer first because they were already running at a loss and being subsidised by the tube.
You guys are doing great work, these are as fun as they are informative and important. The shout out to Inside Croydon was a class act, solid folks here at Cronx Watch.
This is a great bit of well researched investigative journalism. It's kind of old school in a sense. Once upon a time newspapers used to do it. I passed your piece onto the folks on an independent forum. Keep up the good work!
another great video. really enjoying your channel mate. It's a shame how poorly Croydon is looked after. It really feels like it has so much potential but it's being pissed up against the wall as you say. keep it up!
Excellent reporting. Croydon council just keep digging themselves a deeper and deeper hole through complete stupidity. But they’re not alone-we have a similar council here. They’ve blown a fair bit on silly projects that have ended up half done due to incompetence but although the idiocy has cost us millions we’re not into billions yet.
I've got no connection to Croydon bar a 6 month stint working in a certain Office (who were a _terrible_ time. glad i left) but I've still just binged all your vids - quality stuff my dude, hope you get the algo boost that gets you to the # views you deserve! i'll keep watching the cronx ✊
The obvious thing was to let TfL be responsible for the bus shelters, in Greater Manchester we have Decaux looking after ours. The council at Croydon were sold a pup here by a conman, trying to save money, so perhaps they've learned their lesson, but I wouldn't bank on it. I use the bus service from time to time visiting Manchester and Bury (I live in North Manchester), the local two stops to me in either direction have shelters, as they're located near to the Metrolink station nearby. As for indicators as to when the next bus is due, no chance in our area, that privilege is reserved for the trams of Metrolink, although we're told the indicators for buses will be coming soon.
Shock horror, a local authority not doing the most basic due diligence checks before signing a contract. Also ‘Smart Cities’ was one of phrases that was being applied to anything a few years ago, usually a sign that it was a quick money grab. Enjoyed this vid, you’ve got an engaging presentation style. Although I don’t reside in the area you cover the content matter is still of interest.
Ultra-local content from a place I haven't been to in a region I haven't spent more than 24hrs combined in the whole of my life, on a country I haven't visited in more than a decade? Yes please, thank you very much
Great story. Thanks for exposing the incompetence of Croydon Council , failing to do their due diligence about Sutton and his company Valo. No track record of delivery. Did they even request information on their balance sheet prior to signing any contracts? Was a physical model of the bus shelter even even presented to the council, or did Valo just hire someone on Airtasker to produce a rendering for the council? Surely you would have thought the council would have requested a proof of concept first? This is a modern corporate case of dumb & dumber…
This channel is criminally underrated. Even if you don't live in or care about Croydon, it is top quality journalism.
Thanks, appreciate that!
Wish he lived in Derby 😃👍🏼
@@davidyoung8683 funnily enough mate I did for four years!
@@CronxWatch Then we just need more of you everywhere 😃 Bit passed it myself, most of my time is dealing with the NHS to stay alive. Where ever you, please continue, inspire the young ones.
A breath of fresh air in our current anti journalism enviroment
Argh this makes me so angry. So bus users (including a lot of elderly and disabled people) have been forced to stand for years, because the council wanted to whack a load of bright LED adverts and surveillance in our faces and were too corrupt to even do that.
What is so hard about a shelter and a bench? Why do they have to make everything worse??
I know honestly, ridiculous isn't it. All to save a few quid when they were already losing millions all over the place. Thanks for your comment!
Clearly it was incompetently handled, but a bus shelter partnership to bring in advertising revenue is a perfectly sensible scheme for a council to get involved in...
@@callum9999 why?
Who didn’t show “due diligence”?
Who profited at the Council? Did they go on holidays together?
@@dglukesluthier You're SERIOUSLY asking why it's good that the council gets a share of the commercial advertising on the sides of bus shelters!? Rather obviously, because that money can be used to fund council services that are currently in danger of being cut or reduce the burden put on people via the area's high council tax rates.
Am I missing something fundamental here? I find this disbelief almost incomprehensible! (Unless I suppose you're anti-advertising and want the council to spend extra money on creating advert-free shelters?)
Croydon and corruption go together like a horse and carriage
Yes since the 60s when they ripped the heart out of Croydon to put a motorway through it
Police, transport, healthcare... what realm is not corrupt (less corrupt!?)
The hospital, Mayday (aka Croydon University Hospital) is better known to everyone* as Maydie
* Doctors, patients, paramedics, general public etc
@@liammhodonohue Mayday sounds like they're in distress!
@@andywatts8654 I think they are.
I work in hospital lab (thankfully not Mayday). News emerged that they failed their CPA (ISO 15189) inspection in about 2015 and didn't bother going for re-inspection. They were content they had the captive market of the attached hospital and GP practices in their catchment area!
ISO15189, now certified by UKAS, isn't compulsory but any lab worth it's salt will have it.
Last I heard the lab is now part of a South London pathology network🤷♂️ much like how council services like refuse collection have been merged.
I live in the UK, but I don't think I've ever visited Croydon, but thank you for exposing corruption where you see it. It's becoming so commonplace we almost pass over it, so keep up the good work!
I would probably visit bath or Cambridge first 👍
Don't go
Don't come.
Don’t bother lol
I live in London mate, never go Croydon, there's literally no good reason to ever go there 😂
Only in Croydon are the council so useless they even can't get bus shelters right
Greenwich council, 'hold my beer.'
"only in Croydon" lol man knows very, very little :')
@@eattherich9215thankfully TfL own the shelters in Greenwich
I live in Croydon and contractors recently repainted the road markings, only for a week later (literally a week) for the road to be dug up and repaved due to pot holes etc. They can't even get that right either, and our money goes down the drain with it. Useless tools all of them
@@royalhero4608 yet they are all on six figure salaries and never have to worry about redundancy.
Respect for this. Absolute joke
Watching from a Croydon bus stop…
no bus shelter here
@@hannahkahi4369 🤣🤣
Why are we putting up with such obvious corruption?
Because the people who care don't have the money to hire lawyers, and the people with money don't care about services they don't use. The only way they would go down is if they piss off someone in power and that person in power goes 'Mr Fixer, what's the dirt on that councilor?' and finds a reason to have them taken down.
Because all we can do is beg them to investigate themselves and if they do they will likely find no corruption only perhaps some incompetence so these people will have to take some time off whilst they do some reeducation.
Because what if we vote for inexperienced people and they don't have experience?
Because it doesn't stop there.
criminal action is never taken against people in suits
Every privatization is a swindle. When the council owns and operates an asset, any profits go to the council. When it sells or leases the asset, any profits go to somewhere else.
Yes, private operators asset-strip the operation ( go bump up the corporate profits ) they buy or win the tender to operate. Cut corners until there is nothing left to cut.
Can't believe I've only just found this channel good job
Thanks for putting all this together! Been reading Inside Croydon for years now - you and Downes show the importance of local journalism!
Also massive appreciation for the locations you use for each bit. This is such an amazing time capsule.
I noticed all the bus shelters disappearing, was around the same time the implanted the one way system around Croydon Clock Tower. Great video, hope you end up doing one on the Nestle building and the surrounding waste land one day.
I literally live on the opposite side of London. However this channel has quickly become a favourite of mine!
Pardon my ignorance, I'm just a mere foreigner trying to figure things out. I always wonder... Why do these companies get paid before they deliver the results?
Exactly. People like Sutton obviously thought Croydon were mugs . Sadly it's true we are....Council it is
Because things in the UK are done via contracts. If the contract says "you need to pay us upfront", then they can choose to accept the terms or not. But in this case it was a clear corruption scandal.
@@alexander1989x The whole world operates using contracts in some capacity. It's not a new concept.
I am baffled because in many cases you will have payments as milestones get completed. Or half at the start, half upon conclusion.
I understand it's corruption. I understand inexperienced people negotiating these contracts.
I guess I was wondering if there are any cultural tendencies, where UK gets itself into these sticky toffee puddings.
Might be something to do with the fact that if a council does not spend all of it's money each year, the gov cuts it the next year. So the councils are desperate to spend money and don't bother about little things like due diligence or proof of concept or proper contracts, etc.
Because the councillors take a nice back hander for setting the scam up I believe money flows if you have a scam in Croydon and will pay a councillor money corruption and croydon are best freinds
Earlier this year, I moved from Chiswick to Croydon. The flat I was renting was bigger than my new flat and had a garden. However, I pay more in council tax in Croydon. I am glad my extra cash is being spent so wisely...
Chiswick is so much nicer than Croydown man… hope youre doing well
Croydon have had to hike their council taxes a few times to deal with their huge debt
When I was teen I used to get in a lot of trouble and the threat id always get from my parents is that we’ll move to Croydon 😂
@@RockApe_ Mate you are a joker! 😂😅
Why would you move from there to here??????
Im glad you are exposing this. Croydon council thought they could cancel their contract with JCDecaux, but JC owned the bus stops and removed them.
The new company is a PR company that promised money from digital advertising, but dont or cant produce the bustops.
What exactly do you do with bus shelters that are up to 10 years old? Most of the panels will no doubt end up as scrap and the glass panels simply smashed and disposed of, in order to save time when removing them. This isn't much like a car where valuable spares can be removed from the vehicle. The shelters will have little scope for further use once removed. Who paid for the bus shelters to be removed? Decaux or the Council? BTW, excellent presenting here and shooting of the video, this journo might well go far, he's a natural in front of the camera. I predict no one will get fired as a result of this debacle.
I am nowhere near Croydon, have never visited but I really look forward to your videos. Keep up the good work, expose the corruption and stay true to yourself!
First a stop's electronic timetable will taken away. Then the stop will be taken. Bah. Bah, I say!
Fantastic journalism. Thanks. Keep doing the good work
This story perfectly summarises the incompetence of Croydon Council, will you be doing an episode on Brick by Brick?
It's not incompetence, it's complicity.
he mentioned them in his first video ruclips.net/video/cTEszmoxbdI/видео.htmlsi=dGXQaqiChu1_7coV
I'm in Australia, and yet I find this hyper-local news video pretty good. The algorithm is working.
Also, yeah... corruption bad, and more signs the UK is just ossifying.
a "brexit benefit". if they where in the EU, they had to tender it in the eu.
plus: companies that want to bet on this tender NEED a clean criminal and bankruptcy record.
Still can't get over how I vividly remember one of my local bus stops by a pub actually had a proper (if not hi-tech) shelter stop and then one day never seeing it again.
Honestly, there *should* be a way to integrate the hi-tech with those wooden old-fashioned shelters like you see outside of London.
There's a really lovely one near Gipsy Hill that looks all mock Tudor and has history of the area.
At least, it did when I was there last summer
On a recent monthly visit (one of my regular ones) to Garstang, near Lancaster, I observed a load of striped tape across an area on the pavement where a bus 'shed' (made of wood) had once stood. The location of the shelter had always puzzled me, located on the crown of a fairly sharp right hand bend when I approach it, I always slow down. Also nearby is a side road on the same side less than 5 yards away. It looked like the driver of a car had failed to negotiate the bend and demolished the wooden shelter. Four months on, no sign yet of a replacement. I rather fancy a slight relocation of a new shelter might be advisable, but I wouldn't be too sure that will happen.
There's a shiny new bus shelter just appeared near my house in Ceredigion West Wales, although there are no buses at all. It's positioned where buses used to stop until the services were cut in 2003. Someone's getting rich this way too.
No way, that's a very interesting story! Thanks for sharing.
The same thing happened near Barnsley a few years ago, it made the papers. erecting a new bus shelter when buses were stopped on the route years previously.
@@paultaylor7082 crazy
The quality of the journalism on this channel is right up there with the also marvellous Inside Croydon website. Well done.
Big praise, thanks a lot!
CronxWatch is like the Harvey Dent of Croydon. The council better beware.
Great work as ever. I remember waking up one morning and the bus stop opposite our house was gone, so much corruption going on it felt like one of the less important things to get angry about, but then they never came back...
This is cracking journalism. I appreciate having the sources in the description, but if the list was cited Vancouver-style (think Wikipedia's [1] [2] etc) with a number coming up when the relevant source is used would make it far easier to keep pace with the video and read up further on the issue, as right now it isn't clear which sources have provided which information, making verifying claims a bit more difficult. That being said, this is still very high-quality. Keep this up and you could become Croydon's FriendlyJordies.
Hopefully he don't get fire bombed though
You're not wrong, I may do that for the next video! I try to keep them in order they were mentioned but they do get confused I suppose. Thanks for your comment, glad you liked the video!
Goated channel
The best show on the internet, the best host on the internet, the single greatest source of journalism… Love it!
Why don’t the government ask for his extradition. Oh, it only works in the USAs favour.
It's like a competition with these people - who can be the most bent...?
As per usual, class 👏
Big up man!
I just watched Jago Hazzard's video about the superloop and unsurprisingly the place where he couldn't find the start of the next part of the route was Croydon. They'd closed the bus stop and there was no clear info on the app about the replacement stop.
this bus scandal would literally ruin my day and commute to school. big up cronx watch major !
Big up to you, thanks for supporting!
Great job we need more reporters looking into government and public companies and how they are stealing tax payers money. How about the GLA and it fire stations next.
Excellent journalism
Thanks boss, big up!
Just found your channel, live in London, not Croydon, but LOVE the style and the research man. The corruption and incompetence is just INSANE.
Keep reporting please. Croydon people need you ❤
Thanks! Been a busy time in my personal life, we're working on a bunch of new videos.
I did wonder what had happened to the majority of the bus shelters in the borough but never gave it much thought. No surprise to hear its yet another shortcoming from the council. Love these videos by the way keep them coming!
CROYDON: "And you can promise that you'll deliver the bus shelters for the quoted price?"
SUTTON: "I can promise you anything you like, if you give me money"
@@PHSPictures 🤣🤣🤣
Of course Croydon Council allowed corruption to take place. I go to Croydon for work and noticed the lack of shelters since COVID, so glad to know how it happened.
Genuinely crazy they spent so much money just to take away the bus stops and not replace them
I am from NZ, and in 2005 visited Croydon as I was riding what used to be called Croydon Tram Link.
Aside from that I laughed all the way through the comments and enjoyed your modern style.
High praise from a pre baby boomer!
It's heart-warming to see Croydon Council giving repeat offenders another chance.
Wow! Croydon Council how embarrassing!
I dont live in croydon and I rarely get on a bus but I like your journalistic style and needed to let the bot know.
bless up to the cronx
Haha appreciate it, thanks for the comment!
What is this compulsion to make everything smart ? It's just a bench with a Shelter. It's a shame no one at the council said.." hold on...."
Next thing you know they will be tendering for smart Loo’s… But one thing they will never put out a tender for is a Smarter Mayor or council staff…
If it weren’t for Keir Starmer, I’d say the Croydon council is the biggest joke around 😶
You forget Liz Truss. Won that competition outright.
Might want to switch ‘Croydon’ to ‘London’ in the title just for better search optimization. Hate to see high effort videos like this not get pushed in algorithm
Efficient and conscientious use of public funds. Councils and governments, the gift that keep taking.
Your guys work has inspired me to become more involved in the PPP work my little village is doing in Ohio.
Keep up the good work my guys.
Love this type of content in my area
Big up, appreciate that! More coming soon.
Someone who just got their 2:1 at Uni said they could disrupt the sector.
And looking at the outcome… Were 100% correct.
Everything about this is quality... except the feeling it leaves me with.
How can their be so little accountability for such obvious corruption???
WELL DONE 👍🏾 BRILLIANT WORK! THESE ARE THE STORIES WE NEVER HEAR ABOUT IN THE NEWS!!!
Thanks, appreciate that!
Call my cynical, but I don't think they ever intended to replace them and it's unlikely TfL will either.
I've noticed quite a few bus stops across London (including in the centre) losing their passenger information displays first and then eventually their shelters.
Some bean counter probably just sees them as an unnecessary cost and said passengers can shove it as far he's concerned.
Standard british contempt for the lower classes. French solutions need to be investigated.
The passenger info displays are supposed to be replaced by an e-ink screen on the actual flagpole thing. But yeah I have no clue why the shelters are vanishing. Though I wager if TfL actually had funding they wouldn't think about cutting the cost of them to begin with. But from TfLs perspective, it's more important to actually have buses that transport people as regularly as possible, versus having them comfortable while they wait longer for the buses. Unfortunately when you underfund the capitals transport system, buses suffer first because they were already running at a loss and being subsidised by the tube.
A few back handers involved here for sure
I bet there were even bigger back handers with the Westfield saga.
This company is still in business at Companies House and is still advertising Croydon Council as a client on its website.
Great reporting 👏
Cheers, appreciate that!
Great investigative journalism, good stuff, subscribed 👍
You guys are doing great work, these are as fun as they are informative and important. The shout out to Inside Croydon was a class act, solid folks here at Cronx Watch.
Just realised, I saw you in the Royal Standard last Thursday! Keep doing what you’re doing man.
Excellent journalism. So now, all Londoners will have to be paying for croydon councils negligence. TfL is already cash strapped
This is a great bit of well researched investigative journalism. It's kind of old school in a sense. Once upon a time newspapers used to do it. I passed your piece onto the folks on an independent forum. Keep up the good work!
Im not even from croydon, but ive subscribed 😂 I like your style of journalism.
Check with the councillors to see who suddenly got new cars / houses / bank balances.
The Scammer bribed someone in-order to scam the council.
Sadly you may be right!
Excellent - more like this, please.
Thank you for this, i wondered where all the new shelters were!
I was completely unaware of this... Excellent reporting Sir, consider me subscribed.
Thank you thank you for all your research!
Mint channel mate, we need something like this where im from
This is excellent!!
another great video. really enjoying your channel mate. It's a shame how poorly Croydon is looked after. It really feels like it has so much potential but it's being pissed up against the wall as you say. keep it up!
Excellent reporting. Croydon council just keep digging themselves a deeper and deeper hole through complete stupidity. But they’re not alone-we have a similar council here. They’ve blown a fair bit on silly projects that have ended up half done due to incompetence but although the idiocy has cost us millions we’re not into billions yet.
3:11 excuse me? no seats at a BUS STOP?
Yes, in Greater Manchester, there are a number of bus shelters with no seats, including some just off Piccadilly in the City Centre.
It's no wonder things look a bit shabby in Croydon, they can't even get the basics of not getting scammed right!
I'm up north but loving this southern drama
Sutton will not go to jail. There are too full of other types of offenders so it seems.🤫
Good god Croydon Council are stressfully incompetent 😂 thank you for reporting this 🙏🏾
I'm loving the show.
I'm hoping we see Roger Cook chasing crooked councilors down the street like shenanigans soon lol.
I've got no connection to Croydon bar a 6 month stint working in a certain Office (who were a _terrible_ time. glad i left) but I've still just binged all your vids - quality stuff my dude, hope you get the algo boost that gets you to the # views you deserve! i'll keep watching the cronx ✊
Big up for that, appreciate you!
People need to start going to prison, this is fraud and theft, insane
Mr Cronx is superb, I am a huge fan. Go well virtuous Mr Conx.
I always thought Croydon was a city... genuinely shocked to find out it's in London.
I've just looked on a map - I was born in Guidford and grew up seeing signs for Croydon everywhere so I assumed it was the next nearest big city.
We actually tried to become a city several times but got rejected!
It's a Borough of Greater London, along with many other areas in the region.
i just love that his last name was Sutton - they should have seen it would be bad from the beginning!
Whetever happened to the Council doing its own repairs and maintainance??? . Outsourcing ALWAYS costs more in the long run.
The obvious thing was to let TfL be responsible for the bus shelters, in Greater Manchester we have Decaux looking after ours. The council at Croydon were sold a pup here by a conman, trying to save money, so perhaps they've learned their lesson, but I wouldn't bank on it. I use the bus service from time to time visiting Manchester and Bury (I live in North Manchester), the local two stops to me in either direction have shelters, as they're located near to the Metrolink station nearby. As for indicators as to when the next bus is due, no chance in our area, that privilege is reserved for the trams of Metrolink, although we're told the indicators for buses will be coming soon.
The bit where you 'did a runner' made me laugh. This looks like journalism; o7
You are a legend
Well made video! Just subbed... (I live in Croydon too!)
This is baffling
Mate, you're not making me miss Croydon.
(Awesome channel, btw)
Haha it's a love have relationship for me. Big up, glad you're liking the vids!
Shock horror, a local authority not doing the most basic due diligence checks before signing a contract. Also ‘Smart Cities’ was one of phrases that was being applied to anything a few years ago, usually a sign that it was a quick money grab.
Enjoyed this vid, you’ve got an engaging presentation style. Although I don’t reside in the area you cover the content matter is still of interest.
Smashing it mate ✌🏿
Excellent material.
scamming a entire borough is crazy
Subscribed second video I've watched of yours great stuff!!
Ultra-local content from a place I haven't been to in a region I haven't spent more than 24hrs combined in the whole of my life, on a country I haven't visited in more than a decade? Yes please, thank you very much
Great story. Thanks for exposing the incompetence of Croydon Council , failing to do their due diligence about Sutton and his company Valo. No track record of delivery. Did they even request information on their balance sheet prior to signing any contracts? Was a physical model of the bus shelter even even presented to the council, or did Valo just hire someone on Airtasker to produce a rendering for the council? Surely you would have thought the council would have requested a proof of concept first? This is a modern corporate case of dumb & dumber…
Banger video as always bossman