Wouldn't it be interesting to say "Naw...I haven't. Why are we now talking about films?" just to get them to outline more details of what they go about doing, so that it's captured on camera? ;)
@@SDRockman "well, these dudes scam loads of cash out of people and dodgy sales people think it's cool to refer to that film when they are being scumbags"... Would be the only honest answer.
lol, i worked at a place where during training the guy said the company had "a wolf of wall street" type atmosphere.........i did exceptionally well there
I actually worked this kind of job same charities too (NDCS). I quit after 2 hours into the job. They make you pay for your own travel (£10 + a day). Everyone’s trying to manipulate eachother with fake energy and constantly brain washing eachother . It’s literally like a cult . They lied about pay too and everything else completely bad
An NDCS canvasser came to my door the other week, I just said no thank you out my window. He came back later and stood at my door for ages tapping away on a tablet.
They are such scum bags. Preying on vulnerable members of society on all sides, whether it's the kids they employ or the people they con into signing up. When the chuggers turn up in our street we need to chase them off, look after our neighbours. And the charities that have signed up with places like vantage know full what will be happening and the tactics involved, they ain't as innocent as they're making out, not sorry for what's happened just sorry they've been caught
Mate you do understand this is all done by journalists, and they want something to write about? Journalists are well known for lying, twisting words and making it seem 100x worser than it is.. Just saying you do realise that don’t you?
It’s so cringey, these guys have clearly convinced themselves they are high rolling big business salesmen like from the wolf of Wall Street and not just door to door leeches. Much closer to David Brent than Jordan Belford.
@@thecardboardswordall religions are brainwashing tools. Simple as. Doesn't mean god doesn't exist. Just means the religious organisations are corrupt and have been hijacked.
@@Tony-vf9zu I suspect people are saying this because you don't see many journalists go undercover anymore. They just report on what people are tweeting about.
@@Tony-vf9zumakes perfect sense. Mainstream news nowadays just parrot what eachother say, no investigation for most subjects. Look what they did around COVID or vaccine injuries. They were paid by the government to parrot whatever the narrative was 👍
Excellent journalism. Never give to chuggers; find a local charity that you know does good work and donate to them what you can. Never give into pressure tactics
Red flag No1. Anyone selling to you at your door or on the street is NOT your friend as nice as they pretend to be. Red flag No 2. Anyone selling on behalf of a charity ask yourself who's getting the Lion's share here? It's not the charity, there may not even be a charity. Red flag No 3. Rolling bank payment...run a mile.
💯percent I’m a door to door salesman I sell internet, TV , sims phones , I would never ever do charity. Ponzi scheme to line people’s pockets I knock doors & when you genuinely help someone save money & it’s a good genuine deed
Me neither and another issue is just look at the huge sums given to their CEOs. I was approached once by a chugger who, with beaming smile asked me "Do you like dogs"? i replied "I can't stand them". "Oh well do you like people"? "Only those who don;t pester me for money". She went away; maybe with her tail between her legs!
i actually used to work for one of these style ‘companies’ based out of nottingham, i now know they are out of business, but maybe a coincidence, i dont know, but even down to the cafe nero for the interview its all identical. very predatory and would love to see this wiped off job ad sites, if they have no way of getting people in, they will wither away. they know exactly what to say and promise to on board people who dont know better.
Iv had a scumbag at my door the other day after telling him im not ready to make any commitments at the moment due to financial issues the guy says to me i wasted his time lol, told him you knocked on my door your wasting my time.
I always get the sales scammers from cancer charities and a children's hospital in London. They stand in the road watching for people driving in and walk over. Unfortunately one of them sneaked up behind me just as I got out of my car and he fell over! He didn't hang about.
I remember once I had one at my door and I told him I couldn't support the charity - as much as I would like to - as I wasn't in a financial place to do so. I was struggling with working 36 hours a week on top of Medical School to pay rent and food and expenses. He then tried to guilt me into giving up coffee (which I was getting for free from the uni chaplaincy centre) or the "surely you go on night outs with your course mates here and there, a few drinks off and you could pay for this" or something along those lines. I was furious.
This is definitely some of the scummiest behavior I've seen any "company" indulge in. Door to door sales is not in itself a scam, but when you do it like these people it is.
10x worse than the working class man that sells a bit of green on the side to his mates for extra bit of pocket change. Police should be doing a proceeds on all of these companies, ruthless crooks in suits. Hounding pensioners. Shocking.
This is why you should NEVER give to ANY charity no matter how legitimate they claim to be. There’s always somebody scraping mint off the top and this continues down as folk can earn a living out of donations. The people that are in need of the money get next to nothing.
There should be an understanding here, taking overheads off donations shouldnt be wrong. Because if you're not using some of that money to invest more into people who will GROW the charity and get a much bigger return to help those in need, youre never gonna be a successful charity. Would you rather a company make 70 quid off a lemonade stand and then give it straight to chairty. or would you rather have that same 70 quid invested into something that could make it 7000? The latter makes sense, no?
I was suckered into the exact same scam when I was 18 here in Australia. All the same tactics used. I was there for four months and spent more money than I ever made. Horrible greedy business
This happened to me too in Australia. Even worse I got recommended the job by who I thought was a friend. Made sense when I realised they got paid a referral fee! This type of work shouldn't be allowed
I’m so over this kind of BS. You constantly see job listing websites littered with these jobs, hear people disappointed because they went for an interview and found out during the interview it is an MLM/scam. There needs to be much stricter laws that make these businesses less desirable for them to exploit everyone from the staff to their customers.
Hate how they basically claimed it’s a rogue branch and nothing to do with the rest of the company. What are the odds that the reporter just got really lucky and stumbled into the only dishonest branch out there…
I remember interviewing for a job which seemed legit, walked in and heard others telling the person at the desk they were here for different interviews, that was the first red flag. The second was the worst interviewer I've ever met. He was asking about home life, my hobbies and very little about work history etc. The next day they called to offer me the job but that it would be a different campaign which involves door to door sales. This was nowhere near what the advertised job would entail 😂 it was then that I looked into the company properly and noticed they were a scam like this lot. Since then I've always researched the company very thoroughly so lesson learned.
When I was fresh out of school I applied for a job in “marketing”. I turned up to an office similar to that shown in this clip, before I knew it I was chaperoning somebody for door to door sales that same day, I walked away, called my Dad and asked him to come pick me up. It was the most demoralising 30mins of my life and I sat in silence completely embarrassed that car journey home. I’ve since got a degree and chartership and am in a senior management role in a respected industry with a high salary, to anybody reading this who is doing canvassing please get out -it’s not too late. Watching this video gave me PTSD.
ah yes i had an experience with the Portsmouth version of this, made us go to some day training in Cardiff and pay for the mini bus, when i quit i got told if i was going to cry about it i should leave as i found it morally wrong and for 2 weeks spent my time knocking on peoples doors and telling them why we were in the area and not to open there doors to the others. really pissed me off as a veteran that help for hero's used this lot as well as well as the rspca
Must have made you furious being a veteran and seeing the way funds were being raised for Help For Heroes etc. There's also We R Blighty and Veterans In Need, both CICs that apart from chugging, they go door to door with a card machine. Walter Mitty Hunters Club HQ expose them regularly, hate all the pressure tactics from dodgy companies under the guise of charity- disgusting how they conduct themselves.
They’re right not to do so. I have a principle that time is more valuable than money. I would rather volunteer my time to a charity rather than give my money towards it.
Oh wow. That’s actually crazy. When I graduated from university, I worked for a company like this in London and for me it was Alzheimer’s. Honestly the exact same thing was said when the guy said” and just like the other neighbors, we can count on your support.” I left after one week. Just felt ashamed knocking on people doors and annoying them.
I was involved in one of these scams here in America and it’s so similar! I was in my early twenties and barely earned anything. This is not the exception of the rule but the norm with these organizations.
I worked for one of these for a year, good experience, but poor wages; it's essential like a lottery, your colleague might get the door, make the sale and you'll look over thinking "if only I had knocked", while you've made none that day, they've made their first, it's 8pm, dark and raining. Literally all the practices presented in this video is exactly how that company was ran, and the exact same practices we were told to follow on the doors. It wouldn't suprise me if they are linked (they have offices up and down the country).
Nice investigation- funny how much the scammers who run the company talked at the start and how little when confronted! The sort of pressure sales tactics used, if used on me are likely to result in a bucket of cold water, or, more legally, me just filming them- you know it's dodgy when a salesperson won't go on camera! I detest this sort of exploitation- both of the "self employed" workers who get no pay and of the vulnerable people they try to get to hand over money. If approached by a "chugger" in the street- I am likely to be extremely rude, but, I'd imagine it'd be quite effective to start recording them with my phone- on facebook live!
I worked for a company like this in Bournemouth. Absolutely hated it. Felt awful and I had no idea beforehand that it was door to door selling especially monthly payment rather than 1 or 2 pounds towards the charity. Sickening. Just looked at my CV and the company was called Fast Track Promotions
Don't stand there talking just to be polite. Just like street beggars and charity muggers they will take your politeness as a weakness. Just say "NO THANK YOU. We don't have any money. "And close the door.
I used to do, door to door sales a long time ago as a broke student in Newcastle. Nothings changed I see. Absolute worst job I’ve ever had. Truly terrible.
The reason they called the reporter tomato and other ridiculous names, is these guys believe themselves so intelligent and capable, that they can convince someone into a sale even with the "handicap" of silly names. It's actually quite sad
I work in social services for the elderly and this is absolutely heartbreaking.. these young people trying to be buisnessmen is comical.. parents must be really proud
I’ve worked in direct sales for nearly 10 years and I’ve never cold called or put anyone under pressure like these guys do. The way they operate is terrible and I don’t know how they get away with it
I did this for 8 months. It's absolutely a cult like feeling. You don't realise you're in it until it's too late. Glorifying 12 hour days, 6 days a week all with the carrot dangling the reward of progression and owning your own office. They message you on job sites and you wonder to yourself did I even apply for this role? Then they make you feel amazing to begin with only to forget about you immediately if you don't hit targets. The toll it takes on your mental health is deep rooted. Glad to see it getting called out for what it is, evil!
There are Credico sub-companies doing this in every city in the country, it's absolutely infuriating because by design it's impossible to shut down. Every time I look for a new job I spot a bunch of their misleading adverts talking about a "football mindset" and sure enough I spot another sub-company with a dodgy vague website, all doing door to door and city center sales or charity sign ups. I'm at the stage where if someone knocks on my door to try to sign me up for a charity, I ask them who sent them, look up their site whilst I'm talking to them and then warn them they've not going to get paid what's been promised and they're likely working under the Credico umbrella without even knowing it. Every time you out or investigate the companies, those specific sub-companies shut down but the bigger umbrella just keeps going, because the whole reason they're instructed to make their own companies, is to legally protect the larger group (and the people running them get to play pretend that they're entrepreneurs)
What's even worse is that they all use the same script across all of the sub companies. It's actually terrifying how robotic all these offices become. Speaking from personal experience. They suck
Sad thing is they'll just do some other door to door sales now. I'm sure it's the same people I had an interview with years ago. They were selling sky TV door to door back then. As soon as they described the role, I asked "is this door to door sales?". Interviewer said some bullshit of how it isn't technically door to door selling. "I said I disagree with your practise and business" and walked out. It's a scummy sector. No door to door sales or sign ups should be allowed at all in my opinion.
Watching this triggered such severe anxiety in me. I once worked for an office in East London called Tofkae and Omg those people were extremely evil! Absolute worst work experience of my life! Your treated like an absolute animal! If your reading this DONT work for those people! Your only paid via commission and next to nothing, F those wicked people
@@maxdee9223 The only thing I lost working for those people was too much brain cells, they encourage you to lie to innocent people in order to scam them into signing up to spend their money so that you can get a commission. They teach you tactics to trick people into signing and tell you to keep a fake smile on your face while your doing it. I work at a wonderful job now and can sleep better at night so I’m good thanks I’ll keep that fake attitude they wanted me to have lost as hell 👍🏻
People should note that not all companies are like this, I work for a very similar company however there is no pressure selling, signing up vulnerable people is completely forbidden and they pay you a standard fee for making people aware of the brand even if you dont get sales which actually works out to being a lot more then most jobs pay and people can choose to go commission only and they get extra commission from what they sell. Everyone there loves their job and the CEO is completely transparent and easy to talk to.
100% Same here man. We do use persuasion tactics but are very transparent about our fundraising; in the end it is a net positive and we put money into charities pockets. Plus we have a basic pay as well as transparent commission and anyone who puts in a little effort will easily make a liveable wage. If you aren't good at the job they just hand ya the basic pay and then fire you, it's really all about what you produce, and what you bring to the table. We're all getting paid, the charities getting paid, and people are helping out, and the only questionable thing we do is use persuasion tactics; which is what sales is all about, plus every one uses persuasion in day-to-day life, it's human nature, what matters is using it for good outcomes and intentions; we're not persuading people to buy crap they don't use, we're literally using this power to make life-changing impacts on the lives of the unfortunate. On the flip side; there are so many schemes going on in door-to-door stuff, so many bad people like these companies, it really sucks how they disgraced our name.
@@robyou8511it's a charity tho. People give to charity believing their donations are going towards the cause that the charity is set up for, not for people like you to pay your rent. I have worked for a charity in the past and I will never donate to another charity again. The majority of all donations just go towards making the CEO very rich and paying vultures like you. None of you give a toss about the cause the charity was set up for in the first place.
@@kieranb7047 I see your point, and I used to think like you, however all of the financial statements are public for charities. A lot of charities have 80 cents to the dollar go directly to the cause. 12 cents to admin, 8 cents to fundraisers etc. Now I'll address your next objection before you even say it: "Okay well even if 80 cents to the dollar go to the cause, 20 cents go to other ppl who don't deserve it; making them rich, so it's bad!" Well think of it this way, if it was 100 cents to the dollar, then nobody would be running the show and nobody would be bringing in money. People need money to survive. So yes you can say I made $72,000 this year off of money people "meant" to donate, but I also raised $800k that directly went into the cause, and helped the needy, and if it wasn't for me; they wouldn't have had surplus of 800k in funds to use, think of how many hundreds more people I helped as well as myself. So should I just quit this job and get another profession, being detrimental to hundreds of needy people? Or should I raise funds for them and take a cut for myself? Even if I didn't give a toss about the charity; my actions had a net positive on people's lives. Would you rather someone who gave a toss about you but was a net negative on your life? We have to use logic here, capitalism is in everything whether we like it or not, what matters is the results!
These people knocked on our door once, they use every dirty trick in the book. They use manipulation tactics like guilt tripping, repetition and pleading. Truly awful way to squeeze out money from people, completely unethical.
This is absolutely top class quality journalism. Real grassroots. The country needs more of this!
did you find the heroin tho because that's what behind it all
"you ever watched Wolf of Wallstreet?"
Instantly walk out if you hear this sentence being uttered by any manager ever.
Wouldn't it be interesting to say "Naw...I haven't. Why are we now talking about films?" just to get them to outline more details of what they go about doing, so that it's captured on camera? ;)
@@SDRockman "well, these dudes scam loads of cash out of people and dodgy sales people think it's cool to refer to that film when they are being scumbags"... Would be the only honest answer.
This was said to me by some scum bag manager
lol, i worked at a place where during training the guy said the company had "a wolf of wall street" type atmosphere.........i did exceptionally well there
I would collapse from cringing so hard if I heard this sentence
I actually worked this kind of job same charities too (NDCS). I quit after 2 hours into the job. They make you pay for your own travel (£10 + a day). Everyone’s trying to manipulate eachother with fake energy and constantly brain washing eachother . It’s literally like a cult . They lied about pay too and everything else completely bad
Was it national death children society and where was your company/branch based may I ask?
@@m1szn38 yes it is the national death children society and i do remember they would have 2 companies working in one building. one is swan marketing.
An NDCS canvasser came to my door the other week, I just said no thank you out my window. He came back later and stood at my door for ages tapping away on a tablet.
I did the same as a kid in Torquay, asked to get my wallet from the van and they clocked I was going to do a runner and started panicking haha.
100%
Incredible piece of reporting, well done.
They are such scum bags. Preying on vulnerable members of society on all sides, whether it's the kids they employ or the people they con into signing up. When the chuggers turn up in our street we need to chase them off, look after our neighbours. And the charities that have signed up with places like vantage know full what will be happening and the tactics involved, they ain't as innocent as they're making out, not sorry for what's happened just sorry they've been caught
Mate you do understand this is all done by journalists, and they want something to write about?
Journalists are well known for lying, twisting words and making it seem 100x worser than it is..
Just saying you do realise that don’t you?
It’s so cringey, these guys have clearly convinced themselves they are high rolling big business salesmen like from the wolf of Wall Street and not just door to door leeches. Much closer to David Brent than Jordan Belford.
Lol facts
Worse , they earn less than 500 a month
Cha cha cha ooh la la
They're slugs. I worked for their Swindon branch
@@Venmaylovethe building with the big red door?
1 - don't answer the door.
2 - just say NO Thanks if you do !!
I tell them that I'm already donating. They usually say thank you, and off they pop. If I want to donate, I'll go to the official charities website.
Rule 3. Always follow rules 1 and 2.
Tell them you been bankrupt by a ccj and you can't 😂 they can't push a sale any further
I just tell them to Fuck Right Off!
@@davidmarchant9386just tell them to leave
Congrats to the people who made this, it’s excellent journalism.
Expose cults at all cost
start with islam, the biggest cult on earth
We would have to start with Islam to that and that's very difficult when our people are liberal and weak in both mind and body
@@RUclipsenjoyer667 that's a really old organised religion, that is not the same thing. Would you say the same about Christianity or Judaism?
@@thecardboardswordall religions are brainwashing tools. Simple as. Doesn't mean god doesn't exist. Just means the religious organisations are corrupt and have been hijacked.
Door to door "charity" collecting should be illegal.
Do something about it then
Nice bit of old-fashioned investigative journalism.
How is it old fashioned
@@Tony-vf9zuit’s cheaper and less effort to not investigate. Just repeat what other news say
@@tacicalchannel7225 they makes no sense pal
@@Tony-vf9zu I suspect people are saying this because you don't see many journalists go undercover anymore. They just report on what people are tweeting about.
@@Tony-vf9zumakes perfect sense. Mainstream news nowadays just parrot what eachother say, no investigation for most subjects. Look what they did around COVID or vaccine injuries. They were paid by the government to parrot whatever the narrative was 👍
Disgusting. At least the wolf of Wall Street preyed on people’s greed and not their guilt over donating to charity.
It's a MLM cult, unfortunately these are everywhere 🙂
Excellent journalism. Never give to chuggers; find a local charity that you know does good work and donate to them what you can. Never give into pressure tactics
You think this kinda thing doesn’t go on behind the doors of the official charities too? They ain’t as nice as they appear neither
Great work exposing these kinds of evil companies.
Its funny cus the directors think they are some next Jordan Belfort and then they get whats coming to them 😂.
🤣muppets in their suits
Nothing is coming for them, unfortunately these is all legal
Red flag No1. Anyone selling to you at your door or on the street is NOT your friend as nice as they pretend to be. Red flag No 2. Anyone selling on behalf of a charity ask yourself who's getting the Lion's share here? It's not the charity, there may not even be a charity. Red flag No 3. Rolling bank payment...run a mile.
💯percent I’m a door to door salesman I sell internet, TV , sims phones , I would never ever do charity. Ponzi scheme to line people’s pockets I knock doors & when you genuinely help someone save money & it’s a good genuine deed
I don't donate to charities and this is one of the reasons why
Me neither and another issue is just look at the huge sums given to their CEOs. I was approached once by a chugger who, with beaming smile asked me "Do you like dogs"? i replied "I can't stand them". "Oh well do you like people"? "Only those who don;t pester me for money". She went away; maybe with her tail between her legs!
Nothing wrong with donating to small, local charities where you can see every single penny put to good use. Just don't donate to the big boys.
That man half way through is an absolute horror bag.
Wicked bit of journalism these guys need closing down
i actually used to work for one of these style ‘companies’ based out of nottingham, i now know they are out of business, but maybe a coincidence, i dont know, but even down to the cafe nero for the interview its all identical. very predatory and would love to see this wiped off job ad sites, if they have no way of getting people in, they will wither away. they know exactly what to say and promise to on board people who dont know better.
Goldstream or emora?
@@joshparker1517 neither, it was called epiphany promotions, they had another office upstairs but the name escapes me mate
It’s called devilcorp their are thousands in the Uk. Massive MLM network.
RUclips slave circle
@@joshparker1517granton direct
Iv had a scumbag at my door the other day after telling him im not ready to make any commitments at the moment due to financial issues the guy says to me i wasted his time lol, told him you knocked on my door your wasting my time.
I always get the sales scammers from cancer charities and a children's hospital in London.
They stand in the road watching for people driving in and walk over. Unfortunately one of them sneaked up behind me just as I got out of my car and he fell over! He didn't hang about.
@@OH2023-cj9if serves him right, they're so annoying
I remember once I had one at my door and I told him I couldn't support the charity - as much as I would like to - as I wasn't in a financial place to do so. I was struggling with working 36 hours a week on top of Medical School to pay rent and food and expenses. He then tried to guilt me into giving up coffee (which I was getting for free from the uni chaplaincy centre) or the "surely you go on night outs with your course mates here and there, a few drinks off and you could pay for this" or something along those lines. I was furious.
@@shestewa6581why humour such ppl. Tell them to foxtrot Oscar
You don't have to explain yourself to them.
If a guy called me a tomato, I'd turn him into ketchup
This is definitely some of the scummiest behavior I've seen any "company" indulge in. Door to door sales is not in itself a scam, but when you do it like these people it is.
Sickening, government needs to do more
A breath of fresh air to see journalists tackle real issues. Well done.
Why’s there always an Asian man involved.
10x worse than the working class man that sells a bit of green on the side to his mates for extra bit of pocket change. Police should be doing a proceeds on all of these companies, ruthless crooks in suits. Hounding pensioners. Shocking.
Never seen someone try to reinvent the drug dealer as a ‘working class man’ lol
@@peaktimes2492 you don't get his point, probably because you were sheltered
@@joebloggs4925 thinking growing up poor means you have to sell drugs shows how sheltered you are mate
@@peaktimes2492 again that wasn't the point. Keep ya brain closed bruv
@@peaktimes2492 the working class man THAT sells on the SIDE, read properly
That 'campaign manager' in blue jacket was definitely high 😂
This is why you should NEVER give to ANY charity no matter how legitimate they claim to be.
There’s always somebody scraping mint off the top and this continues down as folk can earn a living out of donations. The people that are in need of the money get next to nothing.
There should be an understanding here, taking overheads off donations shouldnt be wrong. Because if you're not using some of that money to invest more into people who will GROW the charity and get a much bigger return to help those in need, youre never gonna be a successful charity. Would you rather a company make 70 quid off a lemonade stand and then give it straight to chairty. or would you rather have that same 70 quid invested into something that could make it 7000? The latter makes sense, no?
@@XavierPersuades I see your point but say the lemonade stand re-invested to make £7,000 how much of that would go to charity?
@philrobinson5667 a certain percentage. Probably 80-90 percent. Other 10-20% will go to overhead and reinvested
@@XavierPersuades As in pay for the directors mortgage on their second home.
@@alexanderalcyone7776 no thats wrong. It should be reinvested
Well done on a good old fashioned investigative journalism and to those who spoke out👍
Excellent quality journalism to expose this, really well put together
I was suckered into the exact same scam when I was 18 here in Australia. All the same tactics used. I was there for four months and spent more money than I ever made. Horrible greedy business
by any chance did a polish guy with an australian accent run the company lol
This happened to me too in Australia. Even worse I got recommended the job by who I thought was a friend. Made sense when I realised they got paid a referral fee!
This type of work shouldn't be allowed
@@XavierPersuades lol no he was an African American guy. Very Charismatic.
I went for a job interview at a place like this and they hid the nature of the job. On my first day I bailed so quick
The Wolf of Pontypandy Street
“I understood that reference” 🤣
''Surround yourself with homeless people and you'll end up homeless'' Eh no, that's not how that works!
If you surround yourself with clothes will you become a pair of jeans ?
@@alexmarsh1839 Exactly
Definitely not the kind of thing you wanna hear from someone who, supposedly, represents charities
Harassment isn't taken seriously in this country.
I’m so over this kind of BS. You constantly see job listing websites littered with these jobs, hear people disappointed because they went for an interview and found out during the interview it is an MLM/scam. There needs to be much stricter laws that make these businesses less desirable for them to exploit everyone from the staff to their customers.
Surely their job advertisement was false advertisement?
It’s only ever idiots and misfits that go for these jobs.
Hate how they basically claimed it’s a rogue branch and nothing to do with the rest of the company. What are the odds that the reporter just got really lucky and stumbled into the only dishonest branch out there…
They’re all the same, I worked for two and this office operated exactly like them - it’s disgraceful that this is allowed in the U.K.
I remember interviewing for a job which seemed legit, walked in and heard others telling the person at the desk they were here for different interviews, that was the first red flag. The second was the worst interviewer I've ever met. He was asking about home life, my hobbies and very little about work history etc. The next day they called to offer me the job but that it would be a different campaign which involves door to door sales. This was nowhere near what the advertised job would entail 😂 it was then that I looked into the company properly and noticed they were a scam like this lot. Since then I've always researched the company very thoroughly so lesson learned.
How about someone protecting the PUBLIC these prople are targeting. The tactics used on the elderly especialy.
You've only begun to scratch the surface of these operations and should continue investigating the web of other companies linked to this fully!
Have these directors had any arrests?
Great journalism well done, greetings from Ireland 🇮🇪
What a load of liars, would make good MPs
Well done Conor, great to see this kind of investigative journalism in action.
When I was fresh out of school I applied for a job in “marketing”. I turned up to an office similar to that shown in this clip, before I knew it I was chaperoning somebody for door to door sales that same day, I walked away, called my Dad and asked him to come pick me up. It was the most demoralising 30mins of my life and I sat in silence completely embarrassed that car journey home.
I’ve since got a degree and chartership and am in a senior management role in a respected industry with a high salary, to anybody reading this who is doing canvassing please get out -it’s not too late. Watching this video gave me PTSD.
You need help.
your story is almost word for word what i went through
It's a damn shame British youth has to stoop to this.
I worked for this exact company for nearly a year, most of the people were nice but really takes a toll on your mental health (and bank account lol)
ah yes i had an experience with the Portsmouth version of this, made us go to some day training in Cardiff and pay for the mini bus, when i quit i got told if i was going to cry about it i should leave as i found it morally wrong and for 2 weeks spent my time knocking on peoples doors and telling them why we were in the area and not to open there doors to the others. really pissed me off as a veteran that help for hero's used this lot as well as well as the rspca
Must have made you furious being a veteran and seeing the way funds were being raised for Help For Heroes etc. There's also We R Blighty and Veterans In Need, both CICs that apart from chugging, they go door to door with a card machine. Walter Mitty Hunters Club HQ expose them regularly, hate all the pressure tactics from dodgy companies under the guise of charity- disgusting how they conduct themselves.
You're a legend. Proper genuine human
this journalist is sick! 🔥
Should have known someone with the name of Jamal would be leading it.
These companies have been operating at least 30yrs, the things they sell vary but its exactly the same set up.
I do not give to ANY charity...
What an incredible statement to be proud of, well done you
Don't ever
@@Blastoice It's their money. Why you mad?
Any big charity
They’re right not to do so. I have a principle that time is more valuable than money. I would rather volunteer my time to a charity rather than give my money towards it.
Worked for a place like this didn’t get paid for 4 weeks work, got told to take it to a small claims court by the manager instead of just paying me.🤣🤣
Yeah because it will cost you 2k to do it
who gonna pay 2k to get less back
its why they do it
they sneaky
@@BoSSLeVeLs Why will it cost at least 2k to do it ?
What did you do ?
@@alexmarsh1839 selling broadband
Oh wow. That’s actually crazy. When I graduated from university, I worked for a company like this in London and for me it was Alzheimer’s. Honestly the exact same thing was said when the guy said” and just like the other neighbors, we can count on your support.” I left after one week. Just felt ashamed knocking on people doors and annoying them.
These guys are scum tricking employees with these crap jobs but the charties that use these companies I would say are just as scummy
i treat everyone who knocks on my door like the TV licence sales people " no thank you " door shut
£39,000 is outlandishly high?
Great journalism
It’s these kinds of companies that made me never give to ANY charity. There are much better, effective ways to give to people in need.
I was involved in one of these scams here in America and it’s so similar! I was in my early twenties and barely earned anything. This is not the exception of the rule but the norm with these organizations.
I worked for one of these for a year, good experience, but poor wages; it's essential like a lottery, your colleague might get the door, make the sale and you'll look over thinking "if only I had knocked", while you've made none that day, they've made their first, it's 8pm, dark and raining.
Literally all the practices presented in this video is exactly how that company was ran, and the exact same practices we were told to follow on the doors. It wouldn't suprise me if they are linked (they have offices up and down the country).
Exactly the same with me, the company was AJG Direct
Nice investigation- funny how much the scammers who run the company talked at the start and how little when confronted! The sort of pressure sales tactics used, if used on me are likely to result in a bucket of cold water, or, more legally, me just filming them- you know it's dodgy when a salesperson won't go on camera! I detest this sort of exploitation- both of the "self employed" workers who get no pay and of the vulnerable people they try to get to hand over money. If approached by a "chugger" in the street- I am likely to be extremely rude, but, I'd imagine it'd be quite effective to start recording them with my phone- on facebook live!
Great piece of investigative journalism 👏
I recently just fell for a similar firm commission only pay quit after 2 days very similar to this set up here literally an identical set up
The first salesman was borderline insane
Also worth saying 90% of the people who work there are desperate minimum wage people - don't hate them for trying to work.
Never ever buy anything sold at the door...
What about cookies made by girl scouts ?
I worked for a company like this in Bournemouth. Absolutely hated it. Felt awful and I had no idea beforehand that it was door to door selling especially monthly payment rather than 1 or 2 pounds towards the charity.
Sickening.
Just looked at my CV and the company was called Fast Track Promotions
Absolute top quality journalism, fair play
Don't stand there talking just to be polite. Just like street beggars and charity muggers they will take your politeness as a weakness. Just say "NO THANK YOU. We don't have any money. "And close the door.
I would & do, but certain demographics find it hard to be this firm/slightly rude
My door stays slammed shut to everyone but the postman or the neighbour/family/friend. Get a peep hole or ring doorbell.
The guy walking away when asking about basic pay 😅
It's like something from a comedy skit.
I used to do, door to door sales a long time ago as a broke student in Newcastle. Nothings changed I see. Absolute worst job I’ve ever had. Truly terrible.
The reason they called the reporter tomato and other ridiculous names, is these guys believe themselves so intelligent and capable, that they can convince someone into a sale even with the "handicap" of silly names. It's actually quite sad
Love these rogue trader type programmes. More please
I'm the first to criticise journalists (having worked in journalism myself), but credit where it's due, this is a great bit of work!
Absolutely mint journalism. Well done Conor.
I work in social services for the elderly and this is absolutely heartbreaking.. these young people trying to be buisnessmen is comical.. parents must be really proud
The movie “Wolf of Wall Street” definitely celebrates this terrible greed. They even have a cameo from the original conman at the end.
There are absolutely zero surprises in here. From the “leadership” , to the lies , abuse, predatory behaviour and greed.
I remember doing a job like this in Cardiff for a day. Many years ago. Never again. They are pricks
*Send these corrupted, misleading & vile companies to watchdog & trading standards*
I’ve worked in direct sales for nearly 10 years and I’ve never cold called or put anyone under pressure like these guys do. The way they operate is terrible and I don’t know how they get away with it
11:37 it was a typo. They really meant 40.00 to 65.00£ a week
I sold Caltex power and then charities in 1998! This s.hit has been going on for over 30 years and longer...
🚫🚫🚫🚫 I Never donate to any charity.. There is always some fat cat cashing in.. 🙄
I did this for 8 months. It's absolutely a cult like feeling. You don't realise you're in it until it's too late.
Glorifying 12 hour days, 6 days a week all with the carrot dangling the reward of progression and owning your own office.
They message you on job sites and you wonder to yourself did I even apply for this role? Then they make you feel amazing to begin with only to forget about you immediately if you don't hit targets. The toll it takes on your mental health is deep rooted.
Glad to see it getting called out for what it is, evil!
There are Credico sub-companies doing this in every city in the country, it's absolutely infuriating because by design it's impossible to shut down. Every time I look for a new job I spot a bunch of their misleading adverts talking about a "football mindset" and sure enough I spot another sub-company with a dodgy vague website, all doing door to door and city center sales or charity sign ups.
I'm at the stage where if someone knocks on my door to try to sign me up for a charity, I ask them who sent them, look up their site whilst I'm talking to them and then warn them they've not going to get paid what's been promised and they're likely working under the Credico umbrella without even knowing it. Every time you out or investigate the companies, those specific sub-companies shut down but the bigger umbrella just keeps going, because the whole reason they're instructed to make their own companies, is to legally protect the larger group (and the people running them get to play pretend that they're entrepreneurs)
What's even worse is that they all use the same script across all of the sub companies. It's actually terrifying how robotic all these offices become. Speaking from personal experience. They suck
this feels like how all sales job are
You can donate to almost any charity online. There’s no need to donate to any door to door charity.
Wow these guys are really passionate about their charity. I’m glad the money is at least going to the needy.
British people stop giving money to charities
Sad thing is they'll just do some other door to door sales now. I'm sure it's the same people I had an interview with years ago. They were selling sky TV door to door back then. As soon as they described the role, I asked "is this door to door sales?". Interviewer said some bullshit of how it isn't technically door to door selling. "I said I disagree with your practise and business" and walked out. It's a scummy sector. No door to door sales or sign ups should be allowed at all in my opinion.
Watching this triggered such severe anxiety in me. I once worked for an office in East London called Tofkae and Omg those people were extremely evil! Absolute worst work experience of my life! Your treated like an absolute animal! If your reading this DONT work for those people! Your only paid via commission and next to nothing, F those wicked people
I actually enjoyed my time working for one of these companies yes it was stressful but if you made enough sales you could make decent money
@@joshparker1517So why did you quit?
@@joshparker1517 so why didn’t you stay ?
Lost your attitude
@@maxdee9223 The only thing I lost working for those people was too much brain cells, they encourage you to lie to innocent people in order to scam them into signing up to spend their money so that you can get a commission. They teach you tactics to trick people into signing and tell you to keep a fake smile on your face while your doing it. I work at a wonderful job now and can sleep better at night so I’m good thanks I’ll keep that fake attitude they wanted me to have lost as hell 👍🏻
People should note that not all companies are like this, I work for a very similar company however there is no pressure selling, signing up vulnerable people is completely forbidden and they pay you a standard fee for making people aware of the brand even if you dont get sales which actually works out to being a lot more then most jobs pay and people can choose to go commission only and they get extra commission from what they sell. Everyone there loves their job and the CEO is completely transparent and easy to talk to.
Yeah same here. I'm based in a leeds office doing british red cross Residntial and I love this job lol. 500-1000 a week lol
r u still working there? what part of the training program r u at?@@XavierPersuades
100% Same here man. We do use persuasion tactics but are very transparent about our fundraising; in the end it is a net positive and we put money into charities pockets. Plus we have a basic pay as well as transparent commission and anyone who puts in a little effort will easily make a liveable wage. If you aren't good at the job they just hand ya the basic pay and then fire you, it's really all about what you produce, and what you bring to the table. We're all getting paid, the charities getting paid, and people are helping out, and the only questionable thing we do is use persuasion tactics; which is what sales is all about, plus every one uses persuasion in day-to-day life, it's human nature, what matters is using it for good outcomes and intentions; we're not persuading people to buy crap they don't use, we're literally using this power to make life-changing impacts on the lives of the unfortunate.
On the flip side; there are so many schemes going on in door-to-door stuff, so many bad people like these companies, it really sucks how they disgraced our name.
@@robyou8511it's a charity tho. People give to charity believing their donations are going towards the cause that the charity is set up for, not for people like you to pay your rent. I have worked for a charity in the past and I will never donate to another charity again. The majority of all donations just go towards making the CEO very rich and paying vultures like you. None of you give a toss about the cause the charity was set up for in the first place.
@@kieranb7047 I see your point, and I used to think like you, however all of the financial statements are public for charities. A lot of charities have 80 cents to the dollar go directly to the cause. 12 cents to admin, 8 cents to fundraisers etc.
Now I'll address your next objection before you even say it:
"Okay well even if 80 cents to the dollar go to the cause, 20 cents go to other ppl who don't deserve it; making them rich, so it's bad!"
Well think of it this way, if it was 100 cents to the dollar, then nobody would be running the show and nobody would be bringing in money. People need money to survive. So yes you can say I made $72,000 this year off of money people "meant" to donate, but I also raised $800k that directly went into the cause, and helped the needy, and if it wasn't for me; they wouldn't have had surplus of 800k in funds to use, think of how many hundreds more people I helped as well as myself. So should I just quit this job and get another profession, being detrimental to hundreds of needy people? Or should I raise funds for them and take a cut for myself?
Even if I didn't give a toss about the charity; my actions had a net positive on people's lives. Would you rather someone who gave a toss about you but was a net negative on your life? We have to use logic here, capitalism is in everything whether we like it or not, what matters is the results!
These people knocked on our door once, they use every dirty trick in the book. They use manipulation tactics like guilt tripping, repetition and pleading. Truly awful way to squeeze out money from people, completely unethical.
I worked for a company like this over 10 years ago. I can't believe it still goes on.
Wow good job. Now that’s journalism; making a difference. Bravo