Wood Gas Lantern! Camping Lamp! Paint Can Wood Gas Stove Optimization! Wood Gas Stove Science
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- Making a wood gas can stove lantern for camping and overnight hiking! Create beautiful ambient lighting for your campsite! This portion of the Wood Gas Stove Science Series will be devoted to optimizing the beloved Quart Paint Can Wood Gas Stove. I want to make a good stove GREAT!!
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The Wood Gas Stove SCIENCE series is an attempt to learn the science behind and how to optimize wood gas stoves. There are many videos of people drilling random holes in random cans and they are great! I have watched most of them and that is where I got my inspiration for this series. I will not show you how to build one until I have an optimized stove design. I am trying to find the correct ratio of can size, fresh air intake, primary and secondary air ports.
Thanks for watching and please stay tuned for more videos in this series.
Wood Gasifier, Wood Gas Stove, Paint Can Stove, Hobo Stove, Camp Fire, Burner, Wood Burner
How do you get the awesome swirl in your flame?
It involves precision in the hole making and a lot of experimenting. I show you how in my Wood Gas Stove Science series of videos... Check out the Vortex 5.4 build video. Thanks for watching!
Stan Lindert You put the drill into the can with the drill bit facing the side a little. It makes the drill holes look kind of crooked. They are tilted a little. That is what creates the vortex.
@@heathputnam9524 you could, instead of drilling them, make vertical cuts where there are holes, and then open them up to one side only. I made a bunch of alcohol stoves and ended up doing this instead of drilling round holes and because it was far superior.
That flame is beautiful
Thanks for the comment!
Please! Latern is awesome. I would be grateful if you continue with this project.
I will try to work on it! Thanks for the comment!
Yes! Please keep working on the lamp. A stove / lamp combo would be awesome for camping.
Will do! Thanks for the comment!
@@heathputnam9524 Awesome! :D
Thanks!
Definitely very 😎
Thanks!
Awesome 🙌
Thanks for the comment!
Late to the game, but yes I would love to see more development.
Thanks for the comment!
@@heathputnam9524 your welcome. This series is fantastic and I appreciate the effort you put in to it.
Superb idea !
Thanks for the comment!
I built the 5.4 and it is a thing of beauty. This lantern is very cool.
Awesome! I love to hear about 5.4 builds! Thanks for the comment!
Lovely!
A hurricane lantern relies on sufficient air flow to keep the glass cool. The height of that flame testifies to the air flow. But perhaps use the damper from your earlier build to try to throttle down the flame so it stays within the glass?
I’ll give it a shot! Thanks for the comment!
Yes, but this is more of a rocket stove than a hurricane lantern at this point. A longer glass tube would be beautiful to capture the entire flame!
A British guy (Robert Murray-Smith ) does the same thing with a oil burner and some stainless steel mesh.
It makes a lantern and a heater that can make enough heat for a small room.
Thanks for watching!
That globe caused some suspense hahaha
Did the flames make a roaring noise like rocket stoves do?
It did intensify the burn! Haha! I need to work more on the wood gas lantern!
Very cool.
A very fine steel mesh might work instead of a glass globe.
I may try that! Thanks for the comment!
I'd never thought of that🤔😇
Super cool "lantern". If you add the inlet air adjustment ring at the base, you could probably easily regulate the height of the flame to be just to the top of the globe... not sure how smokey the flame might get and foul the inside of the globe completely black after a while. You will need some attachment method to keep the globe in place so it doesn't tip or blow off much like an oil lamp used.
Hi, yes I would very much appreciate your time and effort messing around with this idea. Ideally on the smaller camping type stove. It would be great to have one that can be multifunctional. I have made a few including forced air which enables the output to be totally controlled. The only thing that I do in addition is fit metal rods to the bottom to make it far more stable for rough ground. This connects to the wind shield which can then also become part of the pot stand. A pan full of boiling water over you in the middle of nowhere can have potentially serious consequences.
Keep up the good work from a avid watcher
Just let me know if you need info! Thanks for watching!
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There are two other ideas that have been bouncing around in my head for quite some time. Unfortunately I have just not got the time to experiment (the wife gives me to much ear ache!!!! For some unknown reason she likes my company) Any way how about playing around with the design to get it to burn as slow as possible. Still on a wood gasifier basis so that you have a clean smoke free burn. However using this for heating. What would be the smallest amount of primary and secondary holes to still get the pyrolysis effect? What would be the size of containers required to be able to achieve a burn of say 3 hours. What type of addition could be made to put over the flame to increase the thermal output. If it would glow red hot then it should have a infa red radiation effect.
Do you fancy having an experiment
Secondly would it be possible to "tap off" or "extract" some of the the wood gas to supply a light source. This could then be controlled to give a smaller and not so fierce a flame as using the whole stove. Altering the air to gas mixture via a venturi valve could even run a glass fiber mantel as mentioned by another of your watchers.
I hope this might give you some "food for thought" as I am sure that there may be a commercial possibility from developing these ideas. We all love a gadget don't we. I know preppers and off grid fanatics who would pay a fortune for a "all in one" stove/heater/light.
Please let me know what you think.
Many thanks John Stott
Yeah I still tell my wife “see that solo stove, that could have been me!”. When I see the commercials. I just hope my videos help the diyer! I may give your ideas a try. It is not a can from the garbage heap type of stove though! :)
Would love to see more development on the lantern, and especially if its possible to make a more mobile version.
I am thinking about working on a wood gas type fire tornado! A portable lantern is tough due to the glass globe needed. Thanks for the comment!
@heathputnam9524 You can purchase pre-cut glass tubes in different diameters. 😉
nice vid! I would like to see a longer glass tube for more light. Seems like lots of potential. Or a regulation mechanism to slow down the burning process/ extend burning time.
Thanks for watching!
I love how you used glass to put your wood gas stove into a heater mode! Super clever Heath! :)
Thanks Melissa!
@@heathputnam9524 You are so very welcome Heath! :)
Outstanding!! Folks in developing countries might be particularly interested. I'll be making one shortly as this seems to be one of the very few I'd not only places I've seen something so clean burning and running on "regular " wood specifically for illumination...oh, I just watched some of your other videos, is this running on pellets? If so, perhaps char (as in biochar from a 55 gallon barrel) might be viable as a way to make one's own fuel (and soil fertility additive) for cheap, along with a clean burning, regenerative/sustainable fuel for cooking/heating/illumination, all with very low technology inputs...I wonder if this would work with ceramic (i.e. one could have illumination without even metal inputs) though I guess glass is tricky to blow without metal tools. Still, this is a fascinating development you've shared. Bravo!
Thanks for watching! What would you like to see for development?
完美！！
Thank you!
Bonjour, Excellente idée! Merci de l'avoir exposée dans RUclips.
Question: pourquoi ne pas mettre un manchon que l'on trouve dans les lampes à pétrole à pression? Vous auriez une lumière plus intense. C'est, du moins, ce que je pense...
Très bonne idée !
Ótimo vídeo Parabéns 👍🇧🇷
merci!
This is really neat! I would enjoy seeing more development of this idea - particularly around matching the flame size to the glass globe.
Do you think this lantern could be safely used indoors? I'm wondering both about potentially dangerous gasses (CO and CO2?) and smoke/particulates. If you think it would be safe during the main part of the burn, how could the lighting/extinguishing parts be handled without producing too much gas/smoke/soot? Would you just have to do that outdoors?
Thanks, it was a fun experiment. I did build a stove with a dampener on the air intake and you could adjust the burn intensity. The stove is pretty much smoke free but I am sure some CO is generated. If you let it burn out by itself it does not smoke but if it extinguished there is a ton of smoke… this is a wood gas stove so it makes gas/smoke and then burns it. Thanks for watching!
@@heathputnam9524 Thanks for the reply!
Yes, a dampener would likely help with matching flame height to the globe. Do you think it would decrease burn efficiency and create more CO, though, or is that more dependent on other parts of the design?
For the CO risk more generally, I guess it might be worth trying to test the lamp in a small space (without people) with a CO detector. My impression is that when people have used gas for lighting historically it would have been producing some CO indoors and that usually worked OK, but their houses were probably draftier than most houses today.
My family heats with a wood stove, so I'm also wondering whether it might be practical to connect the lamp exhaust into the existing chimney, thus eliminating the CO risk.
careful that globe was not designed for this much heat it will crack. Try a larger diametre globe maybe experiment with cutting the bottom off some glass jars then you can experiment with height. You don't want a flame too high or you will burn up all your fuel to quickly. Sure does look good though. hope this is of interest.
Thanks! Yes the globe was cheap but I want a lantern that will last! Thanks again for the comment!
That was Soooo AWESOME!!!
That would be the bestest lantern in the world.
Looks like youd need a body to go all the way around it and some kind of handle so ur hand wouldn't be over the flame lol because that wouldn't be baked Chicken you'd smell cooking ROFL
My 1st thought was that glass was gunna shatter, but it didnt.. I don't think you'd be able to have it out if it were raining🤔😇
Your right, rain would probably shatter it!
Could this be adapted to use a mantle? More light!
I would love to how it would do with a lantern mantle.
Are you talking about a Coleman Lantern Globe? Thanks for watching!
you might get the same effect or nearly so with a hardware cloth cylinder in place of the glass. Also, in a calm room if you put out a candle and then bring a lit match to the smoke it will flash back to the candle and relight it.
Actually the glass gives a strong chimney effect that you will not get with hardware cloth, the glass also protects the flame from the wind. The smoke relighting is very similar the the wood gas reigniting! Thanks for the comment!
@@heathputnam9524 I know it is counter intuitive, but you can get a chimney effect with non-solid chimneys: ruclips.net/video/W81NeBEG8G8/видео.html
Interesting.
@@heathputnam9524 Eventually I hope to get a couple of stoves built to demonstrate this on a smaller scale.
Let me know how they work! Thanks for watching!
My big fear would be that a flame that big could damage the globe.
I haven't had an issue yet, but it could crack the globe. Thanks for the comment!
I don't know if they make them, but a borosilicate glass globe would be your best bet, because not only does it have higher heat tolerance than soda glass, more importantly, it handles sudden temp changes and extremes far better. That's why most glass cook ware is made out of borosillicate glass and not soda glass.
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Would it be possible to make an adapter for a tiki torch?
That's an interesting idea! I'm sure it would be! Thanks for the comment!
@@heathputnam9524 Even if it's just a drop in replacement www.tikibrand.com/clean-burn-roundwick-6002383