NHI Bill | 'Those opposed to the bill want to keep their privilege and profits': Dr Cedric Sihlangu
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- Опубликовано: 28 май 2024
- In about half an hour's time, President Cyril Ramaphosa will sign the NHI bill into law.
We cross back to our reporter Natasha Phiri at the Union Buildings.
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😂😂notice who will not be in the queue, the same people who always go abroad for their healthcare
The politicians.
My problem with the NHI for SA is the fact that the Tax is going to be increased drastically. The issue of Dr Cedric saying people are paying R8000 a month on Medical Aid and that they would save money because it will cost them less in tax is not the main point of the people complaining, it is a point but not the only one. You are asking people to pay much higher tax so that everyone can have access to ALL hospitals, no sir, people who don't pay tax or cant afford medical aid have the Government hospitals to their disposal. Just to note i am a tax payer, yes i am working BUT i cant afford medical aid NOR a hospital plan therefore i have been going to Government hospitals for my Scopes and Scans etc. I don't believe it to be fair on other people to be taxed higher for other peoples benefits. Yes i would love for private hospitals to be cheaper for everyone including myself but then re work the system another way, i don't know what or how but its not fair or right to ask other people to take the brunt for people who don't have jobs, dont pay tax, cant afford private care etc, that's why we have the government hospitals, for people like MYSELF who cant afford private care.
Otherwise if NHI is approved then before you are accepted into a "Private Hospital" now funded by NHI one has to produce proof of a tax number and an approved SARS tax certificate that is up to date! Failing to do that you then will be declined access to the doctors and treatment at that hospital and one must make use of the "Government hospitals" like before. That is the only way i can see any "fairness". And again i am someone using the government system.
So the few taxpayers of this country, must now pay even more tax to fund this. I don't think so, incredibly stupid!
This form of healthcare has failed measurably around the world every single time it was implemented. This is Communism in it's purist form.
I beg to differ , 'cos everyone pays tax via vat.
@@khwezimemela1730Your VAT is a drop in the bucket compared to what most people pay in taxes. Tax payers are going to feel the pinch from the NHI. Not VAT payers😏
You can still pay for medical aid mam, relax.
@@khwezimemela1730 let us further de-colonize maths brue 🙂
A Tragic day for South Africa.
Why not just fix the broken system that already exists???? No, that won't destroy the health sector... and THAT is what they want.
Yes!!
ARE YOU SERIOUS!!? For private healthcare to strive, public healthcare must be in shambles! In other words, because I'm not sure whether you learned or not or you're just the typical white privileged person, pvt healthcare cannot afford for public to be functional as it cost them business!!
After 30 years and a failing society, the ANC are still talking of Apartheid and privilege. I am not uneasy about paying for medical services. Perhaps Dr Sihlangu should tell us why the state-system is in such chaos.
All income-tax paying south africans have to make sure they vote for a party that will repeal this nonsense. There's no other way around this BS
You do understand we are the vast minority in this country, right? Only 3 million people in this country pay 90% of its income tax. The vast majority who vote ANC never get to really feel the effect of their p1ssp00r voting choice.
@@barkvarkie_fpv8623and that's why they still live in pisspoor conditions
You essentially want the private sector to fund the 90% that cannot afford medical because the anc illspent the taxes that was suppose to be allocated for the people. So the private sector is not responsible to pick up the bill where the anc has failed
Coming from a Country of people who stayed at home and wore a mask
Ultimately we breaking a working private system to fix a broken public system. Put a clown in charge of and castle and your don't get a king. The castle becomes a circus.
Well said!
What he said makes no sense. There is already universal health coverage which is being mismanaged.
We are a country of 57 million people. 32.9% of employable people are unemployed. Besides the R3.3 billion a month to covid 19 recipients, we also support the many welfare benefits. There are 7.14 million taxpayers in South Africa. No wonder industries are being liquidated. People are leaving our country and we have to pay more tax. What a failed government, corrupt leaders, and a shameful and disgraceful leader. So, based on the facts above, explain to me how this will be funded?
money will be collected for this, but we will get no service out of it
In this interview, Dr Sihlangu says that the 'private' health care sector is currently highly subsidised by the state. As far as I understand it, the private sector is largely funded through individual contributions to medical aid schemes or health insurance, so I have no idea where he gets this idea from. Private hospitals, individual medical practitioners and specialists are run and taxed as businesses.
14% of South Africans are currently on medical aid schemes and the balance of the population rely on public hospitals and clinics. If the government's grand plan is to somehow extort the money from the 14% who are paying for their medical aid and pump it into the public sector then they're smoking their socks. People will simply stop paying.
He talks about pooling all the money going into both the private and the public sector but lets be honest, the average person currently paying for private medical aid is NOT going to just hand over their hard earned cash to the NHI in addition to their current taxable income.
So the question remains: How do they propose funding it???
🤣🤣🤣he SERIOSLY wants us gullible South Africans to believe that the government subsidises private hospitals!!!!🤣🤣🤣😟😟😟
The middle class is worried that they will lose a lot of tax money to pay for others, some of who don't want to work. There will have to be a lot of relief so it doesn't touch middle class / tax payer pockets. This guy is very arrogant in his reasoning, making as if tax payers are just acting privileged. We already can't afford high costs of living in SA.
LOOOSE NOTHING I PA TAXES HELEN JWILL HAVE TO LOOK AFTER ME SAVE ME from MED AIDI LOOSE NOTHING
@@user-ek6md5bq3b I'm still trying to make sense of your reply. Will respond as soon as I reach that point. Stay strong fellow tax-payer
If you are middleclass, you are not privileged.
Which middle class are you talking about? There is a political elite, but certainly no middle class.
@@nomvuladlamini4618 the middle class includes about 3.4 million black South Africans, more or less 8% of the black demographic.
Fix the entire collapsed and broken health system and stop all this circus. Our people have suffered enough to be going through all this signing and implentation of a new NHI. Electioneering.
Can the President and the Speaker of Parliament please confirm that all government deployees (Metro/Provincial and National) will be required to exclusively make use of the NHI services and that their privileged current medical aid scheme(s) will no longer be funded by the taxpayers?
Plus that they will never be permitted to travel to Russia / Cuba / China for any form of treatment.
Just build enough hospitals that offer the best services
No,..we want to keep our wonderful doctors.. they will leave... the tax base is too small for this to work..
This man must fund this. He expects people who pay tax to fund this bill when they only going to loot the money anyway. For a business man he lacks a lot upstairs
Please show me 1 African country that works?
Privilidges, these politicians make you naar - the reality if it's your hard earned money you have the right to make your own choices not be diktated to by bureaucrats - we ll see if the politicians go to NHI or private or fly to Singapore
Ironic for one to speak of privilege so arrogantly and with anecdotal information, why not tackle the base issue at hand? The appalling state of public hospitals should be addressed before more money is taken from us as the public
Having this bill signed 14 days before elections also seems pretty fishy
There are so many other issues that should be addressed by our Government but it all falls on deaf ears filled with our tax money, shielded from our suffering as people by paid guards, high fences and cars
What is wrong with privilege if one worked for it?
They can't even fix what is there now this wont even get of theground
Sad doctor who came to sing...
This won't work. And yet another reason to steal for some
All South African people we must stop the NHI bill implementation must be on the way South Africa 🇿🇦 then stop tax and vat
People who currently use the government facilities see this as a jackpot as they can now go to private facilities without paying, paying tax, let alone without working... its wonderful in their eyes
@@leigh-annadams1169 REALLY IS THIS FOR REAL WHAT ABOUT SINGLE PARENTS EARNING JUST FOR CAR PAYMENTS AND CAR INSURANCE THEY ALSO CAN VISIT THE FACILITY
@@user-yp1pu8kj7p well im a single parent as well, paying my own car, own insurance, own rent, own medical aid plus i work in healthcare myself so i see firsthand whst is happening. I know what im refering too. You go work a day in the healthcare sector and then you tell me, we can't afford the private sector failing too cos thats whats gona happen under the government
@@user-yp1pu8kj7p Instead of getting a car, they should prioritise their medical aid expense, and use public transportation.
@@neilsewnarain118 who must use public transport and instead of NHI renovation must be done ✔️ 🙄 clinics and employ experience doctors and nurses academic professionals why make billions out of taxpayers yet potholes, infrastructure to be maintained its unfair to South African's therefore we vote DA THE BEST 👌 PARTY TO VOTE ANC CHANGED THE ENTIRE SOUTH AFRICAN PEOPLE NO VOTES FOR ANC SORRY
We gona vote you out on 29
As long as a Black is still in leadership, there will be progress Mnr!
Yes let me feel privileged because I have to pay a lot of taxes because you are too lazy and greedy to fix the problems
Exactly! The privileged private health care doctors don’t want to treat poor people. They’re a disgrace!
What's wrong with wanting to keep your privilege?
You'll find out soon tsotsi!...
Especially when you pay for it yourself with your hard earned money!No freebies for the taxpayers who must continually dig deeper and deeper into their pockets for services that get more and more shoddy.
Currently unemployed, went to claim unemployment and was told I couldn't get my 8.something years that i contributed while working. I got another job and missed it by a couple months. So now I'm unemployed and will only be paid for the 22 months I worked recently and they had the audacity to tell me the government took my uif money for sassa grants. So I'm now stuck...don't qualify for pension or a grant...sucks to be me.
I hope things get better for you😢
Will the current anc politburo in its entirely all go sit a Barra with their voters when they are feeling poorly after they have to give up their public servant medical aid, from the fat squirrel all the way down to municipal staff.... somehow I think not
Still they don't know how to fund this and just going in blind
They can't even fix what is there now this wont even get of thegroun
The problem with socialism is that one eventually runs out of other people's money - M Thatcher
From Sunny South Africa
It is a very expensive privilege ! I think we would all be very excited to get free health care but unfortunately anything for free is not worth anything !
And those who campaigned for it are the looters watching this space 😢😢😢😢
Time to close business sell everything and move another 5 people jobless 5 customers for sassa mahala
We cant afford it. We cant. We who work very hard to buy bread and get our lights cut and water cut. And nd and and
Those who oppose the bill will leave this country, who will pay their taxes? only 7% of the population pay taxes be careful we are the band playing music while the titanic sinks, don't drown in silence.
I pray for a coalition
I don't understand why people are mad at this guy buy signing this bill thou...isn't he helping the poor people
Lots of job losses coming
We don't want it
cANCer
This man is a LIAR
How?
@@chrisMchon because he is pretending that there is some unfair conspiracy happening to deny poor people medical care, that is simply not true and he knows it
Yes, you cant lift them up, now they pull you down to their level
ANC 😂😂😂😂is unbelievable!
Mxm suka😢
Nose job!!! Bwaaaaahahahaaa!!!
Thank you president 👏
To all those complaining f about this I say you must cry more. You don't want equality, anything that has to do with benefiting everyone in the country you guys are against it. Most don't even know how the medical aid system started in this country, and to those who know how it started and why, Cry more.
You realise for this to work to favour everyone comes from the tax payers right? Also to remind you that unemployment is practically more than 60% so there's not a lot of taxpayers to foot the bill to pay for everyone else. You're asking for a small group of people, who's already struggling just to get by and who's taxes are already being used and mismanaged, to pay for the whole country? In order to do this you'll need to increase tax tremendously which will lead to everything becoming more expensive. This will also encourage more people to leave, more taxpayers to leave and drying up the tax pool.
South Africa doesn't have the ability to afford this and it just simply won't work
@@littleneko4700 I am saying this with confidance cause I also pay tax and pay for a medical aid. I know that we will have to pay more tax and there are only a few taxpayers in this country. Do you have a problem with this or you have a problem with the party implementing it?
@@sandilemfeka4658people like myself living on the financial red line can't cut money from our paychecks. The interest rates are high and we will have to borrow more money to survive. We won't be able to pay back debt and either another round of consumer protection will be implemented or banks will have to cut their losses. Electricity was increased already causing further strain. The economy overall isn't strong. Doctors will be able to offer their services overseas at a much higher income because they studied long and hard to get there and won't accept peanuts. I think even though we might be able to sustain it for a short while, it will lead to the death of the economy if many other areas don't improve. Everything keeps going up and there is not much incentive to try hard. I am also willing to share, but already struggling and don't want to give an impression that I will blindly promote all such ideas implemented by government.
The government should have focused on fixing the current broken system in public hospitals first. The very same people in Parliament who are endorsing this NHI bill will not use the state hospitals when they are sick, they will go abroad.
I dont think you thought this through... u seriously think this will fix the healthcare sector? No, the government will destroy the private sector and bring it down to the public sectors standard. So you go give up ur med aid to sit 2days in a queue at a public hospital before you helped only to get panado.
Fantastic the Bill is being signed into law. Let's speed up implementation.
* you mean destruction.
Yebo! 🎉
Will the current anc politburo in its entirely all go sit a Barra with their voters when they are feeling poorly after they have to give up their public servant medical aid, from the fat squirrel all the way down to municipal staff.... somehow I think not
Time to close business sell everything and move another 5 people jobless 5 customers for sassa mahala
Do what you gotta do, stop chirpy chapping!